WHY I DON'T IDENTIFY AS NON-BINARY (ft. ASH HARDELL)

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ความคิดเห็น • 868

  • @DemonicDomi
    @DemonicDomi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +471

    Do you identify as non binary?
    Chase: *car screech sound*😆🌈
    Me as an individual that used to identify as gender queer and now identifies as trans masculine: I relate to this whole video

    • @SArdenBarlow
      @SArdenBarlow 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      similar for me--I identified as non-binary but am now a guy. Trans masc, trans guy, those fit me too :)

    • @comradegarrett1202
      @comradegarrett1202 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      similar case here... when I first came out, I came out as bigender. but then I got more and more comfortable with being binary trans male. but just like Chase, I feel like I'm like... halfway between the middle and the "male" side. but again, like Chase, I'm going through a medical transition because that's what I want. the other thing... sincerely, I avoid the word not because I think it's a bad thing but because I'm scared of gatekeeping. If my doctors know I'm not like "100% manlimandudebromasculine" I'm scared they'll deny me treatment or call me a transtrender. I'd use the word if it weren't for stigma.

    • @user-go8tu4yf2t
      @user-go8tu4yf2t 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Please get a doctor you're fucking brainwashed

    • @user-go8tu4yf2t
      @user-go8tu4yf2t 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SArdenBarlow you're a trans guy not trans masc

    • @user-go8tu4yf2t
      @user-go8tu4yf2t 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@comradegarrett1202 it's called a phase

  • @NOAHFINNCE
    @NOAHFINNCE 6 ปีที่แล้ว +761

    The middle of the middle of the middle

    • @herbykit
      @herbykit 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      NoahFinnce of the middle of the middle of the middle of the middle

    • @thatinternetteen5616
      @thatinternetteen5616 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Litichi the middle of the middle of the middle of the middle of the middle of the middle

    • @cyrilwhoom5807
      @cyrilwhoom5807 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      now i have the jimmy eat world song stuck in my head

    • @FM-er6xy
      @FM-er6xy 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      The middle of the middle of the middle of the middle of the middle of the middle of the middle of the middle

    • @bookslug2919
      @bookslug2919 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It deserves its own acronym: MoTM

  • @diaryofanactor4522
    @diaryofanactor4522 6 ปีที่แล้ว +341

    "I'm not non-binary, I'm not binary" I feel so validated! That's how I feel! I have been questioning my gender for SO long and had an epiphany when you said that. Thank you for unintentionally putting how I feel into words ❤

  • @isa0ber
    @isa0ber 6 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    in my heart i'm nonbinary but on the streets i settle for androgynous since my language doesn't have neutral pronouns and i live in an extremely transphobic country. videos like this are so validating and interesting and i wish i could have these conversations myself. you two consistently make me feel less lonely and weird, thank you!

    • @crazycatlady2162
      @crazycatlady2162 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What country do live in? Im really sorry you have to deal with that. I am in America where it's starting to be more widely accepted. I'm sure there is still a long way to go. I have gay friends and family and I'm totally accepting of them. Of course I just want them to be happy. They still encounter hate and negativity and that hurts me that they can't be themselves. I came to TH-cam to learn more about the gay community. I typically like to believe I'm open minded and this channel has certainly opened my mind to an entire world I never knew existed. I never realized how much I didn't know about humans. I'm very grateful for this channel so I can be more understanding of my family and friends. I always try to be understanding of other people and what they go through. After watching many videos on this channel (and ultimately others) I realized I was unintentionally not being very understanding. So I'm extremely grateful for Chase as well!
      I truly hope one day you can live as yourself without fear. 😪

    • @yukisakamoto9818
      @yukisakamoto9818 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you live in Brazil?
      Bc your username seems to be written in portugues

  • @drewharris7785
    @drewharris7785 6 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    "I am old." Oh honey, no you're not.

  • @queerlykatie2764
    @queerlykatie2764 6 ปีที่แล้ว +225

    The true binary: hunty and hunted

    • @awesomecassiejean
      @awesomecassiejean 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Katie G What does "hunty" mean? I've wondered for awhile now 😂

    • @HomeWarrantyReports
      @HomeWarrantyReports 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      awesomecassiejean it means hunny chase says it all the time

  • @styx1137
    @styx1137 6 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    I identified as genderfluid for a while before I was comfortable with calling myself trans (not saying being genderfluid is a phase) and I'm still feeling like there is something in me that is not 100% binary but saying I'm a trans guy feels a lot more comfortable for me. Like Chase said, it's not because of stigma or anything, it's just a word that feels right

  • @mags2923
    @mags2923 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The fact that Ash said “I will turn you into a non-binary one day” is really odd and makes me uncomfortable

    • @AshtontheCryptid
      @AshtontheCryptid 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too. I'm non binary and nobody "turned me non binary." I just...am non binary. I've been watching Ash's videos for over a year now and that's just their sense of humor, but the way that they said that made me cringe. This kind of language is hurting us and making it seem like we were brainwashed or pressured somehow. I don't know a single trans person that is trans because somebody else pressured them to be. Hopefully people won't take it that way :(

    • @Moody13553
      @Moody13553 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too. Really inappropriate statement from Ash who should know better!

  • @theapostleofpeace
    @theapostleofpeace 6 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Ash: So it is like the middle of the middle of the middle of the middle?
    Chase: Yes exactly!
    Me: What?

  • @HParadoxa
    @HParadoxa 6 ปีที่แล้ว +149

    I identify as a non binary trans boy because I feel totally gender neutral but I'm confortable with being seen as a boy. I use male pronouns in French and am out as a trans boy.
    I started by identifying as non binary and then more and more trans guy because that's my everyday experience even tho that's not my gender feeling.
    I'd say I would not be confortable being considered as just non binary because I don't want people to think I'm as far/close to be a woman than to be a man. I'm not. (I know non binary doesn't mean that but other people think of it as neither or both male and female most of the time, and that's absolutely not what I'm living)

    • @poofballoon
      @poofballoon 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Alistair - H Paradoxæ same here!

    • @softsquiddo
      @softsquiddo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wtf this is exactly how I feel

    • @the1killjoy657
      @the1killjoy657 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Alistair - H Paradoxæ holy shit you are me ❤️

    • @Chris-ze2nr
      @Chris-ze2nr 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just a question, because I feel sooo much like this, would you advise me to come out as a binary trans guy or a Nonbinary person or just tell the whole story about the mixed feelings (for me it shifts a bit)?

    • @HParadoxa
      @HParadoxa 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I would say it depends on what matters to you. When I do like administration things I just say I'm a trans guy because I don't care about my feelings I just want you have papers and stuff.
      once people that I'm not particularly close to like classmates or things like that I even say that I am a trans guy because it's easier. and see people that are close to me with which I feel that it's important to show my feelings I can say the whole things if I feel like.
      I would say it depends on if telling your exact feeling to somebody is important and if you feel safe to do so.

  • @theannieelainey
    @theannieelainey 6 ปีที่แล้ว +213

    Oh, I love you both so much and LOVE this dialogue!!! ❤

    • @andreidrodz1026
      @andreidrodz1026 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      You clearly don't have a clue what LOVE is.

    • @AshtontheCryptid
      @AshtontheCryptid 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andreidrodz1026 You clearly are a sad troll with nothing better to do with your life than berate happy people online. Find a hobby sweetie, there's many of them :)

  • @misscrackwood
    @misscrackwood 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    As a cis woman it's hard for me to understand all this, how you guys feel, and all the nuances with all those different words. What I get from watching your channel, is simply this (as you said a few times): you do you. And I'll address to you the way you want to. As simple as that! I don't need to 100% understand (how could I, I'm not in your shoes, and never went through these identity questions myself). But watching these kind of videos just helps me remind myself that a lot of different people exist, everyone is valid, and all we need is respect for each other :)

    • @somethingwright6804
      @somethingwright6804 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      please don't take what Ash says as relevant to the trans community. They do NOT represent me or how I experience being trans personally. And I know A LOT of others who strongly disagree with Ash.

    • @xbduf4gb
      @xbduf4gb 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      There's nothing to understand. Teenagers and endless labels. Nothing to do with gender.

    • @xbduf4gb
      @xbduf4gb 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Miscrackwood. You are not a “cis” woman. You are a woman.

  • @CaptainAce2187
    @CaptainAce2187 6 ปีที่แล้ว +121

    The way Chase described holding space for nonbinary identity in the future is kinda how I feel about potentially about identifying as a Demiguy or a nonbinary trans guy.

    • @DemonicDomi
      @DemonicDomi 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t think he meant to describe non binary in that way. 💛

    • @britneymariesillshumancumd5201
      @britneymariesillshumancumd5201 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      CaptainAce Why not a helicopter?

    • @nareushardin8990
      @nareushardin8990 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ima demiboy

    • @a_s2557
      @a_s2557 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      CaptainAce what's a "demiguy"

    • @blossomdollie
      @blossomdollie 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@a_s2557 A demiguy/demiboy is someone who feels partially like a guy and partially something else, usually that other part being nonbinary

  • @sydwest3454
    @sydwest3454 6 ปีที่แล้ว +175

    I’m just gunna leave this here to see what others think:
    Unpopular opinion : gender is not a social construct
    However!!!!! Gender ROLES are social constructs

    • @aspenh5347
      @aspenh5347 6 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      I agree that gender roles are a social contruct, but the concept of gender to me is also a construct. Society uses it as a way of seperating people into certain categories. We aren't born with an innate sense of "I'm a boy" or "I'm a girl", we learn those things from gender roles and because people conflate gender with sex.

    • @D3ViiANT
      @D3ViiANT 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I believe we consider gender to be a social construct because gender is not just black and white, it's not just boy and girl. There are many identities on the gender spectrum and you can identify as neither a boy nor a girl. We've come to a point where gender identity is more defining than biological sex. It's just that society is not nearly as progressed.

    • @brittneysutherland1611
      @brittneysutherland1611 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I 100% agree, if gender was a social construct why would I feel gender dysphoria?

    • @sydwest3454
      @sydwest3454 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      C Helms I think that we are born with the innate sense of our gender and that’s what causes gender dysphoria.

    • @sydwest3454
      @sydwest3454 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Kadomex I agree gender is not back and white, but I think that we have an innate sense of our own gender which is what causes gender dysphoria, which means that gender is not a social construct.

  • @ShikisaiMaki
    @ShikisaiMaki 6 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Every time "NOT binary" was said, I saw nuts in my head. "NUT binary" 🥜🌰 😂

    • @nualahalpin6119
      @nualahalpin6119 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm in the middle of the middle of the nut binary

  • @AlmostSkillfull
    @AlmostSkillfull 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "I'm asexual."
    "Cool. You do you."
    "...I see what you did there."

  • @sanasbitch5929
    @sanasbitch5929 6 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    🎵”Why don’t you just meet me in the middle” 🎶
    I’ll go home now

  • @aspenh5347
    @aspenh5347 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I love when Ash, Chase and/or Aaron are in videos together, it's like watching a casual conversation between friends.

  • @diosdehuecomundo
    @diosdehuecomundo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    My boyfriend is technically pansexual and when I brought it up he was just like "meh. Imma stick with bi." so after that I thought about it a lot because as a panromantic asexual/greysexual I've never felt comfortable but I had stuck with it bc _technically_ that's what I am. And now I just consider myself as a bisexual person with a flexible sex drive.
    And I'm really pissed off at expectations towards binary gender expression but regarding *my own* gender expression I just _can't_ think of it as anything but binary. So I'm a trans man and I struggle with masculine gender expression a lot because even though I am masculine WAY MORE than feminine and _theoretically_ feel comfortable with both sides... I sometimes get annoyed about my feminine tendencies. And I'm working hard to turn that off because it's *_BS_* in every aspect.

    • @chrisjeremy8109
      @chrisjeremy8109 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ha Me too exactly

    • @umberdandelion
      @umberdandelion 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Bisexuality and pansexuality are basically the same

    • @fl0werb0ii
      @fl0werb0ii 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Umber Moore bisexual is liking someone of both sexes and pansexual is liking people for personality not gender or looks :) be careful who you say that to because some people can get very offended when someone says that. Hope I explained that in a way you could understand

    • @umberdandelion
      @umberdandelion 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      TheLonelyWolfBoy
      Mmm no. Do you think bisexuals fall in love with gender or looks??? That is kind of biphobic.

    • @diosdehuecomundo
      @diosdehuecomundo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      YO YO YO can we just agree on bisexuality being an umbrella term!?

  • @Nate-wc5ps
    @Nate-wc5ps 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "I'm so happy I'm not a confused 15 year old anymore"
    me, a confused 15 year old kinda sorta binary trans guy: HELP ME

  • @luvmybts
    @luvmybts 6 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    I was bi, I was pans, now I'm just like whatever.... I'm *me*

    • @luvmybts
      @luvmybts 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm liking your like whoever you are

    • @MarshallLeeMAD
      @MarshallLeeMAD 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Veronica Rosa Me too

    • @Nik-ko9eq
      @Nik-ko9eq 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same. I love people. I don't put a label on it because I don't feel like they fit me at all.💜

    • @onorafinn3611
      @onorafinn3611 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know. When I was figuring everything out my “friend” told my brother that I was gay. Then my parents found out. Fml. Now I realize that technically I’m pan. But I don’t really like the label. If I am using one I use bi just because people understand it more, but would rather use queer or even nothing. Idk

    • @apigeoje5351
      @apigeoje5351 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I see so much anxiety because peeps are trying identify with the labels prior to understanding who ‘me’ is. Once I know me then others can worry how to describe me...
      unless I wanna troll on someone and then I’ll use a label to get an army

  • @raineashyr5850
    @raineashyr5850 6 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Oh my God, you literally just described my gender. Slightly on the male side of centre, not non-binary as such, but not binary either. If someone were to ask me what label I identify as, I'd even make the same noise you made for the "are you non-binary" question. An "eeeehhh..." sound coupled with a shrug. Long live the squiggles!

    • @ILOVEMINECRAFTFUL
      @ILOVEMINECRAFTFUL 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too! I’m starting to think I personally may be a Demi-boy but that’s just me.

    • @xbduf4gb
      @xbduf4gb 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why give yourself a label.

  • @lyadmilo
    @lyadmilo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I was trying to explain my gender to my cishet math nerd friend and I did do the line but I am off somewhere over there thing. And he was immediately like "oh! So your gender is on the complex plane :) ". So thanks math, that is exactly it!

    • @LuxPsy
      @LuxPsy 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's very cool, I love that line, but on the complex plane means that part of your gender is not real but only imaginary. You fine with that description?

    • @TheMaddestHatter234
      @TheMaddestHatter234 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lux Aeterna imaginary numbers exist, though. They’re just imaginary because we have a difficult time visualizing them. And you don’t get taught about them until higher math. So, kinda like how a lot of people see Nb identities

    • @orangew3988
      @orangew3988 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My gender is i.

  • @deadboy5678
    @deadboy5678 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I've been thinking about this kind of thing a lot lately. How two people with identical gender feels can have completely different identities. It's definitely helped me stress out less about finding my specific identity and focus more on trying to do what makes me feel comfortable.
    💖🧡💛💚💙💜

    • @andrewsmith211
      @andrewsmith211 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'll make it easy for you. If yoy don't feel entirely male or female then you are non-binary, which is an umbrella term. Chase has managed to make this simple explanation needlessly complicated.

  • @cinnamon_toast3831
    @cinnamon_toast3831 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I literally spent that whole video trying to figure out which one of them is taller xD
    What quality time spent

  • @devingreen7809
    @devingreen7809 6 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    YESS My 2 favorite LGBTQ TH-camrs 💕💕

  • @thiefofthursday
    @thiefofthursday 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    2:20 that's how I feel about the label pansexual. It is technically correct to call me pan (attracted to all genders) but I identify as bi

    • @CharlieJasper1
      @CharlieJasper1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yes !! me too

    • @jessp4016
      @jessp4016 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My issue is that there's false ideas about what pan and bi mean. I worry about saying bi in case people think that that means I don't like people who aren't binary or are trans. So idk what to say :p "I like em all"

    • @torrinashley6076
      @torrinashley6076 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Ilil Ilil I mean, there's non-binary

  • @MacyMay4669
    @MacyMay4669 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I am a full blown female that loves dresses and shorts, video games and makeup, shoes and Pokémon cards, listen to rnb and rock.. but I am just a girl, that likes and wears masculine and female things. But I still am. a. girl.

    • @auntiechrist2273
      @auntiechrist2273 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Macy Gurden See, you get it!

    • @MacyMay4669
      @MacyMay4669 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Auntie Christ the thing is I don’t though.. that’s my point. I can’t stand all this they/them, it, non binary... or what ever stuff. For me there are males and females that can do what ever they want and wear what ever they want.. not into this whole there are 300 genders thing that’s going on..

    • @auntiechrist2273
      @auntiechrist2273 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Macy Gurden I mean that you get reality, lol. And I agree. People should just be allowed to do their own thing. Coming up with new gender identities is regressive and a waste of time. Good on you for seeing through it all.

    • @jessp4016
      @jessp4016 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      But that's how you feel. If they felt that way, they wouldn't feel a need to express that they identify/ feel/ experience something different. They'd say the same thing you're saying if their experience was the same as yours - but it isn't. The only way that I've come to understand is by listening -- you can't understand someone else's perspective through your own, because they're not the same. They're literally not experiencing the same thing you are in relation to your gender. They're not doing it to complicate things.

    • @jessp4016
      @jessp4016 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@auntiechrist2273 you're ignoring their reality :p the reality is that they don't feel the same way you do in relation to their gender. Read above.

  • @mzanahenriques
    @mzanahenriques 6 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    So, basically, you don't really use the term to describe yourself because it bears no relation to your personal self discovery journey? That's completely ok tbh.

    • @Rugereater
      @Rugereater 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Heinrich ya this video? Valid

  • @marikafontaine5534
    @marikafontaine5534 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is a lot how I feel, expect the other way around. I identify strongly with being transfeminine and take pride in being a trans girl, and I feel like there's strength in claiming the feminity I didn't get to live and enjoy before I started transitioning. In reality I fluctuate a lot between like, feeling like a binary trans and feeling non-binary. The latter is not something I identify very strongly with, so I just call myself a trans girl and leave it at that, even if technically I'd be genderfluid/NB. Maybe one day I'll identify with that part of me more (which I already kinda do with how I present myself to the world sometimes), but for now I'm satisfied just identifying as a binary tran.

  • @MB-xh4gf
    @MB-xh4gf 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    When people say special snowflake, this is what they mean

  • @CassieCarryd
    @CassieCarryd 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Me, as a trans woman who is in a relationship with another trans woman, I like to say I'm one of the following things: gay, female, a woman, pansexual, trans, a HUMAN. A word I really can't identify is lesbian. People ask, "well aren't you a lesbian? Because you identify as a female and you're da-" aaa. No. I don't know why, but it doesn't click with me and I don't feel comfortable identifying with it that way for some reason?

  • @imaginationlord
    @imaginationlord 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is almost exactly me. I originally identified as 'gender neutral' (so non binary) but as I started binding and doing 'trans male' stuff I just went to male. I currently say male-ish or trans-masculine, but I feel weird with the term non-binary for myself (again not because I see it as bad, literally all my other irl trans friends are enby) as a singular label, though I will use it as a tool to help describe my gender in more detail. Possibly because I only feel comfortable with male pronouns (they/them is okay at a push but please don't try to use hey/them, it just doesn't fit me). Thank you for talking about this, it makes me feel much more valid as someone who has always said 'I'm not non-binary, but I'm not binary'.

  • @robinlea175
    @robinlea175 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Chase I love how non-judgementally you can analyse your own thoughts. Looking at yourself as a dynamic being who's identity is made up of past experience as well as how you feel inside is awesome, raw and just straight up real.

  • @TastyCox
    @TastyCox 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would like to see a genuine debate with a FTM or MTF person who doesn’t agree with all these gender against a nonbinary person. Because I’m so stuck in the middle I’m having the hardest time understand what this is.

  • @devink8121
    @devink8121 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love both of you so much! I also love how Chase’s hair matches his shirt!

  • @natejacobs3757
    @natejacobs3757 6 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    Ash has such a cute voice

    • @eb9074
      @eb9074 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Nate Jacobs really? Personally I find it annoying

    • @aaronbishir9058
      @aaronbishir9058 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ethan H A little bit, but people just naturally can have annoying voices so oh well.

    • @Rhyzla
      @Rhyzla 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nate Jacobs fucking where

    • @Ratniko
      @Ratniko 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rather annoying when she/ he hits some notes

    • @jayylad38
      @jayylad38 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      right! i love it

  • @MelodeeMew
    @MelodeeMew 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Chase- this makes so much sense. I’m not sure if this also applies but, identifying as a certain way for a long time, it’s scary coming into a new identity or “label”. And some people in the community get all weird when people change their labels or whatever forgetting that we all evolve. Sending you lots of love!

  • @bobbiewashere6078
    @bobbiewashere6078 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for having this conversation. I recently discovered that I'm NB/Genderfluid in the sense that I flow from binary "woman" to NB "whatever, just Bobbie". I've been in my head and invalidating myself because I still identify as a girl or "chick" or whatever. And refer to myself as a woman and love being referred to as such. So chase explaining how he's a not binary guy, made me feel so much better. I love you both so much. You guys have helped me a ton in my gender and sexuality journey!!! (Sorry for the book)

  • @koryhammond7842
    @koryhammond7842 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We need more people like Chase. I’m starting on T in a few months, but have been feeling really discouraged after starting to watch some Trans Male youtubers. Videos like ‘trans trender’ and things along those lines make me really neverous about being a more feminine trans guy. But Chase’s explanation of not bianary feels just so comforting and so right. He makes me feel like whatever I choose and whoever I am moment to moment is okay. I can’t thank him enough for being so positive about gender and personal choice.

    • @mrwhopee
      @mrwhopee 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      kh71718 s cool have fun destroying your body for narcissistic bullshit

    • @xbduf4gb
      @xbduf4gb 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are putting your life in the hands of someone with pink hair and a flaky personality? Surely you can find more solid role models than that. Or indeed, follow your own idea of who you are. Why go on testosterone when you can be perfectly ok as you are?

  • @yaminohere
    @yaminohere 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Its your squiggle!" XD the smile on Ash's face made me giggle. Love videos of you two! :D

  • @jem8767
    @jem8767 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    yo wtf this is exactly how i've always seen my gender in my head like the whole line imagry and everything omg. i'm so glad there's another person who feels the same way expressing this identity on the internet. i'm still exploring how to identify myself as a trans masc/ nb person so this has really helped, thank you.

  • @ElvishEly
    @ElvishEly 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey chase! I am an afab non binary person and I see myself on an ordinary day as being in the middle of your line example, and then on other days I lean towards “feminine” things some days, but I view my body and my presentation as just middle, I am hoping to get a binder so I can more easily present “masculinely” which I’m excited to try because I have a very “feminine” upper body

  • @sandrabrott8580
    @sandrabrott8580 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I was in prison there was an inmate that Ash really reminds me of... We all referred to them as Peter Pan... They even looked like Ash.

  • @azraelhaffi334
    @azraelhaffi334 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    i think the fact that its completely okay to explore and figure things out for yourself as a person is completely lost nowadays and i really appreciate the fact that in the end: you do you.

  • @marshmallowpie42
    @marshmallowpie42 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was such fun to watch, please continue making collaborations.
    With my identity and the words I use to describe my gender, it feels some things are lost in translation. The youtube lgbtq+ community is in English and for a long time information on trans people was not available in my mother tongue which made it hard to find the terms for myself. But of late I've felt comfortable with the word 'muunsukupuolinen' which means 'other gender'. That word has some similarity to non-binary but isn't the exact equivalent.
    Ash, your book has been a great help in learning about different genders and also a confusing read. Chase, I don't remember why I started following your channel (I guess some part of me has for long known I'm trans) but you are truly a great inspiration.

    • @xbduf4gb
      @xbduf4gb 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are not learning you are being brainwahsed into lots of made up words.

  • @ellapoirier5396
    @ellapoirier5396 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was so interesting and I'm so glad you folks got together to make this video:)

  • @vinregret
    @vinregret 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    every single one of ash and chase's collabs is just the two of them aggressively validating everybody and I love it

    • @xbduf4gb
      @xbduf4gb 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Brainwashing teenagers is what you mean.

  • @ColbertSmith
    @ColbertSmith 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Chase, I feel a lot like you. I feel like I'm totally male, but "soft" male. I'm a boy. And knowing you feel the way you do, but you are fully transitioned/transitioning and happy, gives me a lot of confidence to pursue my own transition where I might have been too scared. 7 months on T and I have fear for the future, but right now I am the happiest I have ever been. Thank you for being you and putting yourself out there for all of us.

    • @xbduf4gb
      @xbduf4gb 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      So you’re a female who transitioned to a gay man. So what? There have been gay trans men for decades.

  • @triciabug100
    @triciabug100 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Its hard for me sometimes, bc sometimes I experience chest dysphoria and sometimes I don't (I'm AFAB), and in those times that I don't, I feel like a fraud. I plan on buying a binder but I'm kind of afraid ill either end up never using it or seem to fake? bc, i don't necessarily identify as trans or as cis? and I have no intention of asking to use different pronouns bc I usually don't care what people use ( though it does feel kinda awesome to be mistaken as a dude, again I'm still complacent in being seen as a "girl"). I really wish i could be on some binary instead of this grey- area i feel like. Does anyone else feel like this or similarly?

    • @yaelpenina
      @yaelpenina 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      UltraOriginalVoid Same

    • @TheMaddestHatter234
      @TheMaddestHatter234 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      UltraOriginalVoid hey! Gender is really frickin confusing, but just know that you’re valid as a trans person (if you chose to adopt that label) as someone with a nonbinary or non binary gender

    • @andrewsmith211
      @andrewsmith211 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Listen, dysphoria is very individualised to each person and sometimes comes and goes. I get the feeling like a fraud thing but if you feel dysphoria then I think those feelings shouldn't be ignored.

  • @paige5333
    @paige5333 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m irritated because one of the things youtube is demonetizing videos over is language and the ad I got on this video, for flesh beauty, had a song with multiple curse words. Anyway very good video, love y’all

  • @EmilyKathleen13
    @EmilyKathleen13 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this so much. Thank you both for making this video, it means so much more than you even realize. What Ash said about bisexuality versus pansexuality really hit home. I realized I am bisexual when I was 12 or 13, and I am 21 now and still get people, even people I don't know, telling me I /need/ to identify as pansexual because of how I explain my sexuality. But I just feel so much more comfortable identifying as bisexual as I always have, and it's /my/ label. I also came to realize here recently that I might be demisexual, so I have been trying out the label "demibisexual". But I've had so much trouble with the fact that I'm worried that I don't belong in the asexual community because until the past couple of years I never really considered that I was demisexual and I always had this misinformed idea of what asexuality was. I didn't realize for the longest time that it's on a spectrum. And even though I've talked to several people who are in the asexual community, one being someone who is demisexual themselves, I still keep hearing a nagging voice in my head telling me that I can never belong because I'm not "asexual enough" and that I'm too allosexual. Even though I have described how I feel to a few different people and they have all told me that it sounds straight-up like demisexuality and that I'm allowed to identify however I feel comfortable, I am still scared. But the label feels right to me, and I am still coming to terms with it. And this really helped a lot in that aspect as well because of the part where you guys explained that someone can identify however feels right for them. Thank you for being such great people

  • @evelynegauthierlevesque2403
    @evelynegauthierlevesque2403 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was eating dates as Ash was saying "eat a date", whaaaaaat. (great video btw!)

  • @dididisaster7615
    @dididisaster7615 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ya'll are sweet. Thank you for this

  • @toaofawesomness4792
    @toaofawesomness4792 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You know when you get this overwhelming happiness that certain people exist? well my day has been full of that today, and you both have been a part of it!
    Thank you very much for sharing your self-ness with all of us. Sending you nothing but love and support with all my heart.

  • @jayfowler7285
    @jayfowler7285 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is seriously helping because I’m “technically under the non binary umbrella” but I feel like I’m a trans boy but when I think of my gender I’m half way to the male side
    This video is helping me get comfortable with myself

  • @honeydoodles4
    @honeydoodles4 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The discussion about community and bi vs. pan is so relevant to me. I know that a big part of why I identify moreso as bi is because when I was first acknowledging/understanding my attraction to multiple genders, I had never heard of pansexuality. When I recently went to Pride, I saw a lot of pansexual flags, and it kinda shifted my perspective. Also so here for binary vs. non-binary being not a clear cut binary that everyone fits!

  • @samtheultimatetransguy4300
    @samtheultimatetransguy4300 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    "I got so excited that people should use the words they want to I damaged things"
    that sentence is such a mood

    • @xbduf4gb
      @xbduf4gb 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, that sentence is not a mood, it is a sentemce.

  • @jesschappellable
    @jesschappellable 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, Chase. I'm someone who has felt like a trans-man for 12 or more years but because I'm also non-binary-tending, I tend to deny my own trans-ness, because of the rejection of binary labels, and have never tried to transition. So thanks again for your perspective.

  • @cecel6643
    @cecel6643 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    *nervous laughs as light breaks*

  • @austinash9829
    @austinash9829 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh My Gosh. This makes so much sense to me. I never thought that anyone else felt this way. Thank you so much for making this video.

    • @xbduf4gb
      @xbduf4gb 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Congratulations, you’re another convert. You know it will take years to undo your brain washing?

  • @fabygoo
    @fabygoo 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ash is so sweet. Too sweet maybe 😅 I totally get where the argument is coming from, like, your identity is YOURS with whatever words you want to use. I do think, though, definitions ARE important because that’s how we make sense of the world. What we need to do is teach kids that they don’t need to fit within one description. But I do think it matters, these definitions are part of people’s identities, especially when they’re lost. We just need to be open and accepting and let everyone find their way. I think a lot of the need of this narrative you guys are presenting comes from the own other-than-binary communities that sometimes just like to hate on each other (more than binary people can!) and it’s important to abolish that.

  • @DragonWistArt
    @DragonWistArt 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is so wholesome

    • @xbduf4gb
      @xbduf4gb 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Labels. You nailed it. All these impressionable young teenagers getting pressured to adopt made up labels just as they reach the identity stage of development.

  • @adamwise1111
    @adamwise1111 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a confused teenager sitting alone in my room, this video made a lot of sense to me. I'm not sure that I'm non-binary, but I know I'm not binary. I feel more masculine than anything else. Idk, it's so complicated but it helps a lot to hear someone else explain it.

  • @andreeorange1
    @andreeorange1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I noticed how some people from the LGBTQ crowd end up policing other people who got started on their journey of self discovery. It does hurt, especially when you're just barely starting to figure yourself out all over again. Thx for those videos :-)

  • @elijahjames67
    @elijahjames67 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    RIP Light, 1 like = 1 prayer

  • @leahokoben7085
    @leahokoben7085 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You just put into words EXACTLY WHAT I FEEL LIKE! Thank you so much :)

  • @kainovember
    @kainovember 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I JUST REALIZED THAT YOUR BACKGROUND IS CATTENS

  • @Harpysylph
    @Harpysylph 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honestly labels are so much fun

  • @Jan-cs8ki
    @Jan-cs8ki 6 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    This is my opinion.
    Y'all are overthinking it and you are treating gender as a feeling... which it is not. I do believe non-binary is a thing, but you're making it so much less believable with your whole "gender is here and here and you can also be somewhere there on the spectrum, it's not even a spectrum, it's a mess and you can be anything!"
    Ash says she had top surgery because she was dysphoric, but she's not dysphoric about anything else which could in theory make them non-binary, but Chase you not only present yourself as a male, you are on T, had top surgery and always talk about how you want bottom surgery. You said that one would assume you're non-binary because of the way you behave, but don't we always talk about how gender expression doesn't equal one's gender? You can express yourself in a feminine way and you can feel feminine, but you can't feel like a man, woman OR non-binary. Being a feminine man or a masculine woman doesn't make you non-binary.

    • @LuisVaughan44
      @LuisVaughan44 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Right, he even said in the video that he's not saying he feels not completely binary because of his femininity, its just simply who he is. Its part of him, he just *knows*.

    • @monicaheartsgypsy7877
      @monicaheartsgypsy7877 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah, thanks. I am thinking the same thing. I think they are overthinking this and letting gender control their lives way too much. It's like their whole life revolves around finding words for their gender/ non gender identity. Why can't they just be?? Why does it matter SO much about the label? Shit. I'm not going to go out of my way to offend anyone, but I almost feel like they want people to offend them, they want to talk about the people who don't understand... these labels that they create baaed on how they feel day to day...

    • @LuisVaughan44
      @LuisVaughan44 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      shut the fuck up, monika. what are you, cis?

    • @ferahgotheassasin
      @ferahgotheassasin 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      what's it to you if she is? it's her opinion, let her have it

    • @LuisVaughan44
      @LuisVaughan44 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ferahgotheassasin she has that opinion BECAUSE shes cis. Trans people think about their gender so much becuase we kinda have no choice.

  • @alyssaalecdyke3655
    @alyssaalecdyke3655 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Um...This video is solid gold. Thanks for touching on a subject close to home! I like the not binary description. I also love the ideal of you do you and don't let people tell you or define who you are!

    • @xbduf4gb
      @xbduf4gb 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s because they are flat out labelling themselves and influencing young teenagers at a sensitive identify-forming stage of development.

  • @cassandrar5127
    @cassandrar5127 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    A variety of ever changing words have always existed for someone to describe someone's experience.

    • @xbduf4gb
      @xbduf4gb 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Name them, with references.

  • @lizwalter1023
    @lizwalter1023 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is literally how ive felt for so long and never had a way to describe it until you did. ive always put pressure on myself to feel 100% feminine because i feel such a strong connection to identifying as a lesbian. i dont feel non-binary but i also dont feel like i fit with being female completely either

  • @DustyGus
    @DustyGus 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I absolutely love my friends, we live in a conservative area but we are all very open and lgbtq+ competent. I am pansexual and a trans man, one of my friends is a straight trans man, another is a non binary bisexual individual, one is an asexual trans feminine person, and my girlfriend is a pansexual cis female. I love having such diverse people around me and being able to learn from each other and encourage each other to grow and be who you are. And we all love you Chase!

  • @curiousnerdkitteh
    @curiousnerdkitteh 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Chase you're exactly where I am. Thanks for explaining it so well.

  • @Utomneian
    @Utomneian 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    i really love Chase's hair in this video, it's very vivid and lush.

  • @livwaits1743
    @livwaits1743 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have y'all checked out any videos from Fox and Owl? I think their wonderfully articulated arguments are very related to this video.

  • @softedges7
    @softedges7 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The whole hand gestures thing is EXACTLY what I do for myself! I flip between the middle of the middle (toward male) and the middle of the middle of the middle. I happen to identify as a nonbinary trans guy. I could use plenty of other terms to describe myself but those are the terms I like. It is really good to see another person's experience so similar to mine even though our paths were not the same, and neither were the resulting identities!

  • @bethlou30
    @bethlou30 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I came out as Genderfluid a few months back after a decade long struggle with my gender identity. I never felt comfortable with being completely female or completely male. When I did come out I had a trans male turn round and tell me to start dressing more masculine to pass... I don't want to pass. I am biologically female, I am big chested and while there are days with major dysphoria there are others where I would love to show them off. His understanding of the word genderfluid was that I felt more male where as I feel neutral 90% of the time, female 5% of the time and male 5% of the time. I use they/Them Pronouns even if people do misgender me all the time online and in person. I am me, people just need to accept it.

  • @draankpaank
    @draankpaank 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video made me so happy

  • @syd9231
    @syd9231 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this video was so good for me. for the past year I've been in a constant state of struggling with my identity. this video put so much into words that I'm not sure I could've done on my own. I feel this so much and it feels good to know that I CAN actually feel this way. like in a sense its revealing that I'm "allowed" to identify like this. not exactly the same of course, every ones identity is different, but mine is defiantly similar. thank you so much your content has been so helpful to me.

    • @xbduf4gb
      @xbduf4gb 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You have just got influenced at an impressionable age by the gender trending. Get off the programmimng now and save yourself years of embarrassment.

  • @emdale9269
    @emdale9269 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think a lot of us coming out in the past maybe 5 years had more of an opportunity to know about non-binary genders, and maybe when you were figuring out your transness a bunch of years ago when being trans was a binary medical transition

  • @cassidybrewer
    @cassidybrewer 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    New title: Ash Hardell destroying my property **emotional**

  • @Kirby3585
    @Kirby3585 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What lovely humans.
    Have never wavered in my identity as binary, but I can understand the fluidity at the same time. Idk, great vid. So well spoken y'all.

  • @lunaottosen
    @lunaottosen 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Chase, this is the first video of yours I've ever seen (came from Ash's channel). I legit thought you were born male. It wasn't until you talked about bottom surgery I was like "Wait a minute..." I also think it's really cool that you don't feel like you have all the answers yet in regards to identity and just admit it. People evolve ALL the time (well, most people) and it's a sign of intelligence to acknowledge that you don't know where you are in a couple of years from now. Nobody does!

  • @melissadomagala5576
    @melissadomagala5576 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I identify as trans masculine and this video is just so much yes. Chase’s POV makes so much sense.

  • @yunglynda1326
    @yunglynda1326 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Whoa I just realised that being binary or nonbinary...is seen as binary but it isn't...*mind blown*

  • @hopehurley1151
    @hopehurley1151 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I totally feel that! i technically could be pan, but because i didn't "grow up" hearing that label, I identify as bi. And also it just feels more comfy. And if you say you're bi people understand it more. And also it just feels more comfy

  • @sarasoukupova9013
    @sarasoukupova9013 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This I consider to be such a helpful representation, I feel like our gender identities are quite similiar and thanks to you it appears I could transition, which is calming to me (as someone who is pre-everything and scared to transition).

    • @xbduf4gb
      @xbduf4gb 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don’t do it unless you need to live as a man. Otherwise you will be letting yourself in for a life of difficulty.

  • @roosterdonkey9077
    @roosterdonkey9077 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've come to a weird place where I've stopped trying to put my gender into words specifically. I'm just "yeah, I'm trans, non-binary, and maybe fluid but beyond that idk and that's fine". Really the hardest part about that is navigating real life in a place where people don't understand these issues to start, let alone my particular situation where the shrug emoji might as well be my gender marker lmfao

  • @KJ1234
    @KJ1234 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love Ash and Chase together 😍😍
    You both have helped me so much just by sharing your videos and experiences. ❤

  • @Nerdicaful
    @Nerdicaful 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Chase brought up a really good point. "Why would you call yourself nonbinary if you don't identify as nonbinary?" It's a technical term. It would be like my technically being asexual even though I identify as bisexual. I have a very complicated relationship with sexuality and have always called myself bi. I will undoubtedly continue to do so. That's my label for myself. But if you wanted to get bare bones technical, I'm asexual.

  • @theshadowssystem2984
    @theshadowssystem2984 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Omg i didnt know others felt like this?? Is it ok if i use the 'not-binary' phrasing? I relate so much on most of my days. Thank you so much for making this video.

  • @rainewhispers4890
    @rainewhispers4890 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait, oh my god... this makes so much more sense. I've been so stuck on pinning myself to a gender but like... I don't have to.

  • @shadowsrulemymind
    @shadowsrulemymind 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Holy shit! Chase, I identify as nonbinary but you NAILED how I feel. Agender but leaning more towards male.

  • @micahsthoughts6054
    @micahsthoughts6054 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this video. I love seeing how you describe your identity and why and what that means to you, and it’s great seeing you both talk about Nb and what that can mean to other people

  • @nothingisforyouhere
    @nothingisforyouhere 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm so glad you made this video because this is how I feel about my gender but kind of the opposite. In the middle but a smidge closer to female. I'm not cis, I'm not trans, I'm technically non-binary but it just doesn't click in my head with that word. I like with words like boi and dude and woman, but I don't want to label my gender.

  • @raykobets7945
    @raykobets7945 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn I can relate to this so much! Like, I'm a trans guy, but I could never call myself a "binary" trans guy and yet I don't identify as nonbinary, somehow? That always confused me and it's great to see someone else feeling the way I do!

  • @redrooster3420
    @redrooster3420 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    (I know this has probably been commented below somewhere, but I have chronic illness and don't have the energy to read through the comments rn to check.. sorry!)
    I can totally see the position of not wanting to strictly identify as nonbinary, despite not being binary either. Actually, that kinda speaks to my identity a bit as well, because I'm definitely not binary, but I prefer to articulate that there are aspects to me that feel very related to trans guy-ness as well??(I don't know if I'm wording myself well here, but hopefully that makes sense lol)
    To find a good balance for myself, I tend to like to use the term 'nonbinary trans guy' because I feel like it honours both the fact that I identify as a trans boy, as well as the fact that I feel like one that is not binary. :)
    PS. Chase, your pink hair.. It makes me feel very inspired

  • @Kleineganz
    @Kleineganz 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Chase, I am so with you on this!! The way you explained where you on on the "binary gender spectrum" (if that's even a thing), is *exactly* how I explained it to my therapist! I even used the same hand gestures and everything. Logically I'm supportive of everything non-binary, but I don't like the term for myself. The technical term for my identity is "bigender," but I don't like that one either. So, I'm sticking with genderqueer.
    Your videos, out of all the FtM Transguys on TH-cam, helped me the most in coming to terms with my identity and gave me the courage to transition, after living 46 years of my life as a "tomboy" female. When I first was aware of the possibility to transition, it didn't quite resonate with me beause so many transguys are straight, while I've always been only attracted to men. It took me a long time to realize that sexuality and gender identity have nothing to do with each other, and that my many years of joking "I'm a gay man stuck in a woman's body!" was actually my truth. It wasn't a joke at all. It's literally who I am. A gay, genderqueer, transguy. :)