I-91 or as the locals call it the 91 international speedway. In Connecticut most drivers are either going 10 MPH in traffic or 100 MPH when there's not. There's no in between. Of the main interstates that go through Connecticut, I-91 is the one that sucks the least.
6:12 Yes, most Vermont roads are rather scenic. One big reason why, which might not be obvious at first, is that the state bans billboards on its highways. It was the first state to do that, in 1968. Only one other state in the lower 48 (Maine) has a similar ban.
I did not know that Vermont does have two different exit numbers, one for the old sequential (consecutive) order, and the newer as mileage based system. Too bad that Delaware and New Hampshire are the only two states to keep the old sequential (consecutive) order. New Hampshire did recently opposed the exit numbers change to a mileage based system, neither does a seat belt law for occupants who are 18 years and older in the vehicles. Will New Hampshire have a 5 cents deposit on cans and bottles, as of 5 other New England States?
Haha that requested photo at 12:00 is basically the Six Flags exit. How do you get to Six Flags? Take the US 5 freeway to the MA 57 freeway, then get off 57 at the Agawam exit, just as described on the sign.
@andysorensen1737 I can’t imagine late spring/early summer is that bad: snowmelt is at a peak, creeks are at max flow, and there’s nothing but green. I’m saying this as someone who lives at the base of a mountain range that so far has more snow than anytime since 1970 (older than my parents!)
Great video as always, my friend! Technically my hometown exit has already been passed (it was on I-71) but if you ever do a video on US-42 would you mind pointing out Waynesville OH? That's where I grew up. If not just enjoy the money, you deserve it :)
That highway in the picture of the CT capitol building was once proposed as a 3di: I-484. It would have connected to I-84 past the capitol via an underground tunnel. The CT 3 exit shown was once proposed as I-491, and I-291 was once proposed as a 3/4 beltway that would have connected back to I-91 south of Hartford. Along with the Windsor-Manchester existing route, another part of it was actually built as the north end of CT 9 near I-84.
MA 2 is actually the Mohawk Trail where it intersects I-91. Mass Ave through Boston and Cambridge is actually MA 2A. A part of MA 111 west of Concord is also given the Mass Ave designation.
When you do the I-94 eastbound or westbound video, can you please include my exit that I always go to La Porte (Exit 40A for US 20 East (South Bend) and US 35 South (La Porte))? I love these videos and your channel as well!
Just the pictures of the Hartford interstates are anxiety inducing. At 12:50 if you exit to 84 E, that is a VERY tight exit ramp on the left. And approaching from the other side on CT2, you whip around a curve and it splits into four exit ramps.
This is a road I have been on. I remember we stopped in White River Junction at a local restaurant for dinner (Wicked Awesome BBQ). We stayed at a lake house at Lake Willoughby. That's about halfway between St. Johnsbury and Newport. BTW, my friend Ryan the Dictator posted an interstate video of I-70 from the Topeka area east to the east end of the Kansas City area in Missouri. He drove through your old stomping ground of Lawrence, KS. I mentioned to him that if he does the entire I-70 video, when he gets to Limon, have you make a cameo appearance and say "Limon,Limon,Ahhhhh" lol. I did read on Wikipedia that Limon is designated as an official control city because it's a hub city with several roads coming together there.
Hub City of Eastern Colorado? No interstates meet in Limon, although I hear I-27 could be extended to Limon. Then it would be a better Control City, but obviously not a good one at all.
I think South 91 from the Canadian Border should be signed for...... Boston Ma because of the South 93 Junction in Saint Johnsbury or Concord or Manchester. Also exit 3 in MA at 12:05 is also the exit you'd take to go to Six Flags New England!
Will Connecticut change its exit numbers from sequential (consecutive) order to mileage based system? It will not be until 2030. Massachusetts and Rhode Island already have their new exit numbers in mileage based system done a few years ago. Vermont does have both sequential and mileage based system along I-89, I-91, and I-93. New York are planning to change its exit numbers to a mileage based system along I-81, and I-88 in the near future. Wish that New Hampshire does change its exit numbers to a mileage based system as well as the last state to have a seat belt law for occupants who are more then 18 years old in the vehicle.
I've been waiting for Todd to do Interstate 94 since the start of my discovery of the channel back for me 10 months ago back on I-69 - Todd is gonna be so happy when he sees that Michigan labels I-94 West as Chicago right from Downtown Detroit - great job MDOT
Me and my dad took this road and to get back home to Vermont it took us on 691 and I was surprised how close we were to New Haven that just shows you how small v Connecticut is 😂
Kong ord is in NH Con cord is in NC, love to hear the NASCAR announcers make the same pronunciation. Awaiting I 95 four miles from my residence. Thanks for sharing 👍
12:12 Connecticut's welcome sign is fine. It has that classic license plate look. Would you prefer it to be like Florida's welcome sign which takes inspiration from Vegas with all the lights?
@MrQuinnzard It isn’t as long as I 90, but it’s far more dense (especially NoVA to past New Haven). That’s not even mentioning New London to Portland or pretty much the entirety of Florida’s Atlantic coast.
To answer your milepost exit question, Vermont is changing over to mileage based exits but got a 5 year delay waiver. USDOT mandated the extra signage as a condition of the delay.
Great points in here! I was on this road today coming from NYC back up to Mass. Something I want to put in perspective regarding the Manchester CT vs NH point is that although they're close together by US standards, they're over 2 hours apart which is a lot by New England standards. If you were driving from say, New Haven to Manchester NH, you wouldn't even be passing that 291 exit iirc. Obviously, if you were going southbound on 91 at that point, you wouldn't be going to Manchester NH. Also, semi-related, CT-15 (aka the Merritt Parkway, Wilbur Cross Parkway, and Berlin Turnpike) functions like an interstate alternate or interstate lite for that 95 to 91 route going from NYC to Hartford or vice versa. It connects a lot of important CT routes! :)
Looking forward to I 93. My sister and her family used to live in Goffstown, NH and we had to get on that highway after some time on 495 to finish the trip.
I'm enjoying your channel as a fellow road-tripper (47 states and all 10 Canadian provinces). I'll send you a note to your gmail about "Neil's The Way It Should Be" for some numeric fixes that I would like to see (including renumbering I-87 in NC/VA)
I hear the proposed plan to extend I-91 across the Long Island Sound into New York still has public support, though I hear it is not being planned at the moment. I imagine that probably isn't happening for a while to come, plus building a bridge that long would be extremely complicated and likely take decades to get finished. I noticed that you have not done a Ranking the State DOTs for New England just yet, though I imagine you'll want to save that for I-95 when we go into Rhode Island and Maine. I-93 is something I'm looking forward to considering I have a lot of history with the Boston freeways.
I've got another I-95 request: It's nothing personal but I think you'll get a kick out of this Exit. It's Exit 86 in Virginia. Look it on up on Street View, and see how weird it is. I'm pretty sure that North Carolina or Pennsylvania wouldn't do this. Can you show it? Thanks!
5:11- The Milepost Exit for the I-89 jct is 69. On another note: Can't wait for I-95! One of the Spotsylvania Exits I requested will be shown (Exit 126 for US 1).
I used to drive this route a bit when I lived in Metro NYC - I'm now in AZ and it was weird to see an I-91 sign in front of someone's house on 91st Ave in Peoria, AZ
6:349:30 I-93 Goes From Canton, Massachusetts To St Johnsbury, Vermont Depending On Drivers Could See where they’re off to : The White Mountains, Concord, Manchester, North Of Boston Area Of Massachusetts, The City Of Boston And It Leads Back To Canton Which Was Near Route 128 And I-95 Intersection
93 South is signed Littleton because in Northern New England, roads are signed for the next town or city with significant tourist services and shopping, not population.
I thought about it too. However, it’s about equidistant and maybe a little faster to stay on 91 to WRJ and take 89 South to join 93 in Bow, NH. Plus it’s a little less mountainous and you don’t have a 45 MPH one lane stretch like you do through Franconia Notch
Control City Freak: Think about the long term traffic. State DOTs:Well should to him or not. Small Town in the middle of nowhere: It’s fine let West Garnett which is me stay famous
I read a few years back that Massachusetts Highway 2 was considered for conversion to Interstate 92 but nothing came of it. I wonder if this is still under consideration?
So was the route from Albany NY ro Portsmouth NH via NY 7, VT9, NH 9, and US 4... but if such a monstrosity were to be built it would likely be an extension of I-88.
When the Interstate Highway system was being built, I-90 was supposed to go along the MA 2 corridor. But then it was decided that it'll just follow the Mass Pike since it was already there.
I believe there was once planned an I-92 from Glens Falls / Lake George, NY to White River Jct., VT, but that never happened. Only a portion from Rutland to the NY line was built.
You forgot the most famous sign, just before the Derby Line exit there is a sign marking the 45th parallel, midpoint to the North Pole, and at the top of Sheffield Heights, just before the exit for Barton is the sign for the highestelevationon I 91, 1856'.
At the I-391 exit, you comment about Greenfield being the control city because it's the largest next city. That's not true. 91 skirts through the west side of Holyoke, which is also in Hampden County like Springfield. Then Northampton was the county seat of Hampshire County, and is smaller than Holyoke but almost double the population of Greenfield. Greenfield was the county seat of Franklin county (before Massachusetts did away with most county governments). It would be confusing to have Holyoke as a control city for 91 at the 391 interchange, because 391 ends in downtown Holyoke.
And, according to an interesting booklet I had from 14 years ago with the Top 10 roller coasters in America, home to #5: a Superman themed ride if I remember correctly (and a Six Flags park?)…
And it’s pretty awesome to behold. Granite mountains towering 2000 feet above, almost reminded me of Yosemite, except much greener (by early July, most everything in my local mountains are drying up rapidly)…
I can't figure out why not Quebec City north of St. Johnsbury. This is the way to get there from New York and south if you want to avoid Montreal, and most would.
@bobwhit1544 I think it’s similar to I 15 north of Great Falls. It doesn’t make sense to sign Calgary when there’s a big city well before that does the job fine (Lethbridge). The only major difference here is that the Sherbrooke-Quebec City population differential isn’t anywhere the size of the Lethbridge-Calgary differential.
Same here! I have been on 91 from New Haven to White River Junction. I also been on a small part between exits 19-21 in Saint Johnsbury after getting off 93 and driving to US 2.
Your not missing much at Derby Line, a convenience store where Canadians come to buy their milk and gas, and the Haskell Opera House, there is a spot on the floor where you could stand in both the US and Canada.
Your not missing much at Derby Line, a convenience store where Canadians come to buy their milk and gas, and the Haskell Opera House, there is a spot on the floor where you could stand in both the US and Canada.
I think the New England States need to be graded on a curve because aside from the cities along the Atlantic seaboard, a few State capitals, and junctions with other Interstates, what the heck do you sign...Canada to the north, the Atlantic Ocean to the east and south, and New York to the west.
My way it should be: Northbound: Hartford Springfield Greenfield/Battleboro, VT Battleboro, Vermont Montpelier/Burlington St. Johnsbury/Littleton, NH Derby/Montreal Montreal, Canada Southbound: Concord, NH/Boston, MA Battleboro/Hartford, CT Springfield/Hartford, CT Hartford New Haven/NY City
The way I think it should be NORTH: Hartford Springfield Mass St. Johnsbury Canada SOUTH: St. Johnsbury White River JCT Springfield Mass Hartford New Haven / New York City
A couple of things that piss me off about I-91: 1) the two I-291’s are wayyy too close to one another. The southern one should be I-491 since it’s the newer one. 2) north of Springfield mass, there’s literally no good control city options for this road. I feel like when you get to white river jct, it could be 91 to Sherbrooke QC, and 89 to Burlington/Montreal. Regardless, I went to UMass Amherst and I-91 was my go-to highway. Really enjoyed this video! 😊
I know that nothing will come from this, but both I-291s are spurs and not loops. The I-291 in MA should have been numbered I-191 as there is no MA 191, so that would not violate the numbering protocol in the Bay State. The I-291 in CT was intended to be a loop. It's very unlikely that the loop will ever be completed. I have no idea where the I-691 numbering came from as that highway technically is a spur of I-91 but could also be construed as a component of a loop of I-84 in order to avoid the center of Hartford.
@@edwardrasmussen3465 I think it has to do with the fact that they connect 91 with other interstates, so I guess it makes sense why they’re evenly numbered. But I definitely hear you about the 291 in Mass, since it ends at a traffic signal
For northbound St Johnsbury to the Canadian border it should be saying something like this Interstate 91 North Derby Line Quebec City or Derby Line Sherbrooke. Key reason it's this it's that Interstate 91 forms the New Haven Connecticut to Quebec City Highway
I forget the exact location, but coming out of Montreal there's actually signage for Vermont via I-89 and New Hampshire via I-91, or something to that effect.
That's on the pull through on A-10 at the A-30 exit. The signage was also on the old Champlain Bridge but the post finishing street view still has the construction signs for A-20, A-15 and so on but no I-89 or I-91.
Yes, I-91 South ends in New Haven. However, traffic coming from Boston via I-84 to CT 15 to I-91 South need the reassurance sign for NYC. The buses coming from Boston to NYC use the inland route, I-90, I-84 and I-91. Therefore, NYC makes sense.
Manchester, NH is 3 hours away. No one in their right mind thinks a 3 digit interstate outside of California is running 3 hours through 2 additional states.
Northbound, the only control i would change would be canada, as i would replace it with sherbrooke. Im sure the local traffic would know it. As for southbound, brattleboro should be changed to springfield, as it is not that large and is not an interetate jctn.
Todd the distances are so short I’d skip all those little towns and do something like this - NB: Hartford Springfield Sherbrooke/Quebec City SB: Springfield/Boston Springfield (after I-93) Hartford New Haven/New York (Maybe SB substitute Concord for Boston and then do Concord/Boston on the I-93 cutoff. I wouldn’t sign just Canada because there are several cities on the other side of the border. 🤷🏻♂️
@pauls49 Yes. I don’t see any reason why anyone latitudinally south of Laconia would use I 93 and I 91 to reach Montreal. Sherbrooke is the perfect choice if following the Connecticut River north of WRJ. It’s less than 25 miles from the international border, and it’s among the 20 largest urban areas in Canada.
@chapman250 Once I saw it has around 200k population, I knew it’d be the perfect Canadian control. For an area that isn’t Montreal or Quebec City, it seems massive…
They’re all tiny. It doesn’t matter how small the town is, if it has fast food and a Shaw’s, it’s a city by eastern Vermont’s standards. Also if you’re on I-91 that far north getting to Burlington you know where you’re going. White River Junction is considered big enough for a control city because it has a McDonalds and 3 car dealerships. It’s also connected across the river to Lebanon, the city around the college town of Hanover, which has an Ivy League. If you work or live at Dartmouth or in its general area, White River Junction and West Lebanon NH are much more than an interchange. They’re the only places with grocery stores in a 20 mile radius.
I'm not sure how I feel about control countries. At least narrow it down to a province. Or would 'Quebec' in this case cause confusion with Quebec City?
I think it could. I’m usually not in favor of it but given the split to Sherbrooke or Montreal on the Canadian side, I think Canada works in this case.
Hey Todd, will you have to separate the I-95 videos into 2 or 3 parts, and then make a supercut? I believe this is the second and last time you would have to do that, ever, until you do another country if I'm not wrong.
NB: Hartford/Boston (because remember, I-95 -> I-91 -> I-84 -> I-90 is the fastest route between NYC and Boston) Springfield Holyoke/Vermont Northampton/Vermont Greenfield/Vermont Vermont Brattleboro/Sherbrooke Lebanon NH/Sherbrooke (Lebanon is significantly larger than WRJ and right across the river) St. Johnsbury/Sherbrooke Sherbrooke SB: St. Johnsbury/Massachusetts Lebanon NH/Springfield MA Brattleboro/Springfield MA Greenfield MA/Springfield MA Greenfield/Springfield Northampton/Springfield Holyoke/Springfield Springfield/Hartford Hartford New Haven/New York City Bridgeport/New York City (for that final 1-mile stretch)
@Vitemer448 I 95 to New London and I 395 to Worcester isn’t faster? I can’t imagine it’s easy to navigate Hartford, considering I believe some commenters on the I 84 video mentioned the city has a mess of left hand exits (I might have even seen some in this video).
@@tylermarchand2996 Nope, New Haven to Worcester via I-91 -> I-84 -> I-90 -> I-290 is still 15 miles shorter than I-95 -> I-395 -> I-290. Also, remember that to make the I-91 NB -> I-84 EB movement, you have to turn onto CT-15 which means that you bypass most of downtown Hartford anyways.
@Vitemer448 I guess it comes down to the vehicle. 15 miles or an extra $2(?) in tolls (I got an invoice for $3.25 from New York to I 91, so I’m just guessing).
Yeah, I think 91-84 would be the usual route between NYC and Boston. IIRC from the 84 video, NYC is signed at the 90/84 interchange; so it's reasonable to suggest Boston should be signed at 95/91.
Maybe my opinion is invalid since I’m not a New Englander, but I think the control cities north of St. Johnsbury should be Derby Line and Concord. I don’t know why I’ve heard of Derby Line before, but for some unknown reason, I have
Derby Line is where 91 ends and also has the library that is on the border of the two countries. I could see it being signed as Canada from 93 junction northward.
@@miked31784 I have definitely heard of that library and of Canusa Street which straddles the line between the two countries. The north side is in Canada and the south side is in the United States, though you can’t drive south of it without going through customs
I’m fine with no CT on Manchester for I-291. It’s a town of about 60k plus there’s a big mall there. We don’t really think much about NH. As for the I-91 Hartford control at the CT 15 exit: it drives me NUTS. It’s like the WRJ/St Johnsbury thing in VT: You’re already in the Hartford city limits, plus entrance signage for I-91/CT 15 from Brainard Rd uses Springfield: it really should be Springfield here. Plus just north of that I-691 exit NB, there’s a cool stretch where I-91 runs between the lanes of CT 15 for about a mile. The only other city you could possibly mention at the north end of 91 is Quebec City, as you’d follow Autoroute 55 to Autoroute 20 to get to the metro area.
I'm going to disagree about having Springfield at the 91/15 intersection. You are just barely over the city line and downtown Hartford is the next exit.
I stand by Springfield because A. It’s the control for 91 North from CT 15 at the same interchange B. I-84 starts using Boston as an EB control right at the Hartford city line; the Prospect Ave on-ramp is almost 3 miles west of downtown and uses the next control; and C. It was previously Springfield before the APL’s were added during the Charter Oak Bridge interchange reconstruction.
There isn’t any real reason to keep signing a city when already in said city limits. That, and exit signs can denote the downtown areas perfectly fine. I 80 westbound in my hometown does the same thing. It enters Reno city limits 3 exits before the official downtown exit. The first exit is an interchange with I 580/U.S. 395. Although it is in Reno city limits, 580/395 serves as a default ‘divider’ between Reno and its smaller sister city Sparks. An overhead pull through nonetheless signs I 80 westbound for Sacramento.
My Control Cities for I-91 North: Hartford Springfield Holyoke Greenfield White River Junction Sherbrooke Canada South: Saint Johnsbury Brattleboro / Springfield Springfield Hartford New Haven New York City
During my 2024 summer road trip, part of my route followed I 91 southbound from the junction with I 93 towards the northeast corner of Vermont to the Massachusetts Turnpike just outside of Springfield. Out of all highway fragments I drove on, the controls here were probably the weakest; but sadly, there isn’t really much to sign out here. From the junction, the control is White River Junction. I’m thinking maybe it should be Lebanon, even if 91 never crosses to the New Hampshire side of the Connecticut River. As of today, WRJ isn’t even the biggest CDP in the greater Lebanon area: that’d be neighboring Wilder, but even then it’s still only a third of the size of Lebanon. After WRJ is Brattleboro as a control. Even though the town AND corresponding CDP are the most populous along all of Vermont’s eastern border, I don’t like this. It really should be exclusively Springfield throughout all of Vermont, or even Northampton (adjacent to Amherst, a very well known college town that anyone in New England will probably know about). However, once there’s no exits left in Vermont, the primary becomes Springfield. Coming into Massachusetts, the primary is Springfield. After leaving Northampton and crossing into Hampden County, the primary becomes Hartford, which is completely agreeable.
Do you mean "Chickadee," which is the state bird of Massachusetts? And don't forget the other New England places that end in -pee: Mashpee MA and Sunapee NH (i-89 goes through there). There may be others that I can't think of off the top of my head.
Samm Said's The Way It Should Be for I-91: Northbound: Hartford/Springfield Springfield/Boston (I-84 East to I-90 East goes to Boston) Brattleboro/Burlington Montpelier/Burlington (I-89 North goes to those places) St. Johnsbury/Sherbrooke Sherbrooke/Quebec City Southbound: St. Johnsbury/Concord Concord/White River Jct Springfield/Boston Brattleboro/Springfield Springfield/Hartford Hartford/New Haven New Haven/New York City (I-95 South goes to New York City)
Don’t know why you’d sign Boston north out of Hartford. 84 is behind you at that point. Also Springfield/Boston could be the very first sign southbound. Not sure why you would sign Concord over Springfield. Both are out of state, but Springfield is on the actual route and also much larger.
Predictions for next Episodes: I-93 3/16/23 I-94 East 3/23/23 I-94 West 3/30/23 (My birthday) I-95 North 4/6/23 Todd Ranks the Northwest State DOTs 4/13/23 I-95 South 4/20/23 I-96 4/27/23 I-97 5/4/23 I-99 5/11/23 Tod Ranks the New England State DOTs 5/18/23
Nice! Your prediction date for Todd Ranks the Northwest State DOTs is actually on my Birthday! Since, I-95 goes through a lot of states and major cities, so I believe it there will be Southern and Northern videos for that Interstate. Will take a long while to get to I-96.
MassDOT used to use CT or CT-style (I don't know which is correct) signs in western MA, particularly along I-90. I remember the hollowed out MA 33 sign in Chicopee from years ago. Since is live in TX now, perhaps someone can say if the two states are still sharing signs and sign styles.
Control cities should be North Hartford Springfield Brattleboro White River Junction St. Johnsbury Newport Canada South Newport St. Johnsbury White River Junction Brattleboro Springfield Hartford New Haven
I guess what Vermont did here wasn’t THAT bad, but it is still probably best signed as the drive-they state that it is. But yes, very gorgeous. Funny you mentioned it not being common to drive past WRJ only to take I 93 S to New Hampshire, because that’s exactly what I did during my 2022 summer road trip. You didn’t really capture this in the pictures, but while I 91 does parallel the Connecticut River, it rests on a ridge above the river. Because of this, it is VERY hilly, which makes for an enjoyable ride. Anyways, here’s my mileage control list. HARTFORD: BEGINNING-Connecticut Exit 31 (3.9 miles to first exit in Hartford) SPRINGFIELD/WORCESTER: Connecticut Exit 31-Connecticut Exit 36 (via CT 15 N to I 84 E to I 90 E to I 290 E; 59.3 miles to the first exit in Worcester) SPRINGFIELD: Connecticut Exit 36-Connecticut Exit 51 (10.5 miles to first exit in Springfield) BURLINGTON/SHERBROOKE: Connecticut Exit 51-Vermont Exit 10N/69B (via I 89 N; 86.9 miles to first exit in “Burlington”) SHERBROOKE: Vermont Exit 10N/69B-END (via A-55 N; 35.8 kilometers to first exit in Sherbrooke) MANCHESTER/NASHUA/SPRINGFIELD: BEGINNING-Vermont Exit 19/128 (via I 93 S to I 293 S; 119.5 miles to first exit in Manchester) MANCHESTER/NASHUA/SPRINGFIELD: Vermont Exit 19/128-Vermont Exit 10S/69A (via I 89 S to I 93 S to I 293 S; 73.2 miles to first exit in Manchester) SPRINGFIELD: Vermont Exit 10S/69A-Massachusetts Exit 10 (1.7 miles to first Springfield exit) HARTFORD: Massachusetts Exit 9-Connecticut Exit 48 (8.4 miles to first exit in Hartford) WATERBURY/NEW HAVEN: Connecticut Exit 48-Connecticut Exit 38C (via I 84 W; 25.8 miles to first exit in Waterbury) NEW HAVEN: Connecticut Exit 38C-Exit 10 (8.2 miles to first New Haven Exit) BRIDGEPORT/NORWALK/STAMFORD: Connecticut Exit 10-END (via I 95 S; 19.3 miles from first Bridgeport Exit) North of Springfield, I think geometry makes Burlington a sensible off-the-road control, but after that, just do Sherbrooke. It really doesn’t make sense to sign Montreal from over here, because even as far north as Laconia, it’s probably faster to go through Burlington. Southbound, I have Manchester and Nashua as co-controls past the I 93 interchange because, even in WRJ, they’re closer than Springfield (and, I 93 does have a special “quirk” that I 89 avoids). Also, I skipped over Concord because the urban core is only 44k, just short of my 50k threshold. If some of the surrounding towns had urbanized areas bordering the city, it very likely would be over 50k. The general geometry of I 84 and I 91 in Hartford allows for some good off-the-road controls in both directions. Admittedly, 91S-84W works better than the reciprocal, since people wanting to get to Worcester (or Boston) from New Haven would more likely continue on I 95 to New London. And at the end, Bridgeport is co-signed with Stamford and Norwalk because Bridgeport isn’t overwhelming larger than the other Fairfield County cities (in fact, Stamford is almost identical in size to Bridgeport, and there’s a fourth city of similar size to Norwalk along the I 84 corridor in the same county). I was very close to dropping Stamford and Norwalk on account of how CT 15 serves those cities while bypassing New Haven and Bridgeport; unfortunately, oversized vehicles are apparently not allowed on it past Milford (only really bypassing New Haven). At risk of sounding like a broken record, overhead signs can skip over modest metro areas (not that Worcester and Fairfield County are modest in any sense of the word); I’m concerned with the mileage signs, as they should let motorists know what the next urban area is, not the biggest that happens to be close.
Mod's the way it should be: (NORTH): Hartford, Springfield, Burlington (until I-89), St. Johnsbury, Quebec City (SOUTH): St. Johnsbury, Springfield MA (until Massachusetts), Springfield, Hartford, New Haven, New York City In my opinion, WRJ is a horrible pick. Signing just because of an Interstate junction is not a good reason, especially since it's not even an incorporated town.
@moderateproductions9088 I do like Burlington until WRJ northbound, but I’m not hot on anything else in Vermont. And this far up the Connecticut River, Sherbrooke should be the control. 200k (massive for a city that isn’t Montreal or Quebec City), only 35 kilometers (
@@tylermarchand2996 the only reason Sherbrooke has that population is because the Quebec government merged the suburbs and the outlying rural areas with the city. The main core of Sherbrooke has a considerably smaller population and the people in the former municipalities don't consider themselves part of Sherbrooke.
P Okay, I looked up what you mentioned, and yes, a big merger did take place 20 something years ago. However, the actual core wasn’t as small as you (perhaps unintentionally) made it out to be: 76k pre-merge to 140k post-merge. If the merge didn’t happen, the core would probably be around 95k today. That’s still big (especially for a Québécois city far from the St. Lawrence River), but I probably would have included said annexations into my almost 180k population figure regardless. If we only went off of raw city populations, Greenville, South Carolina wouldn’t be that prominent.
I-91 or as the locals call it the 91 international speedway. In Connecticut most drivers are either going 10 MPH in traffic or 100 MPH when there's not. There's no in between. Of the main interstates that go through Connecticut, I-91 is the one that sucks the least.
Fun fact: for those who remember the old retail store Bradlees, it was named after Bradley International Airport.
Used to love Bradlees as a kid. They had the best toy section next to Toys R' Us back in the day. I used to love checking out the toy aisles.
6:12 Yes, most Vermont roads are rather scenic. One big reason why, which might not be obvious at first, is that the state bans billboards on its highways. It was the first state to do that, in 1968. Only one other state in the lower 48 (Maine) has a similar ban.
I did not know that Vermont does have two different exit numbers, one for the old sequential (consecutive) order, and the newer as mileage based system. Too bad that Delaware and New Hampshire are the only two states to keep the old sequential (consecutive) order. New Hampshire did recently opposed the exit numbers change to a mileage based system, neither does a seat belt law for occupants who are 18 years and older in the vehicles. Will New Hampshire have a 5 cents deposit on cans and bottles, as of 5 other New England States?
Haha that requested photo at 12:00 is basically the Six Flags exit. How do you get to Six Flags? Take the US 5 freeway to the MA 57 freeway, then get off 57 at the Agawam exit, just as described on the sign.
One minor knock at Google here: As beautiful as these New England roads are, doing them in Fall would only add to the beauty.
Is that the same with the highways in the Appalachians as well?
@andysorensen1737 I can’t imagine late spring/early summer is that bad: snowmelt is at a peak, creeks are at max flow, and there’s nothing but green. I’m saying this as someone who lives at the base of a mountain range that so far has more snow than anytime since 1970 (older than my parents!)
@@drivingbritt9617 Also Michigan and Wisconsin.
It wouldn’t surprise me if Google already have features to change seasons in maps and are optimizing a paywall for it as we speak
Sherbrooke is one of the largest cities in Québec and definitely the largest in the region, it would make sense for it to be on the mileage signs.
Super excited for I-94 in a couple weeks!
Me too. I live in Michigan and I am about 15 minutes from that highway.
Thanks so much!
Great video as always, my friend! Technically my hometown exit has already been passed (it was on I-71) but if you ever do a video on US-42 would you mind pointing out Waynesville OH? That's where I grew up. If not just enjoy the money, you deserve it :)
Thanks so much!
That highway in the picture of the CT capitol building was once proposed as a 3di: I-484. It would have connected to I-84 past the capitol via an underground tunnel. The CT 3 exit shown was once proposed as I-491, and I-291 was once proposed as a 3/4 beltway that would have connected back to I-91 south of Hartford. Along with the Windsor-Manchester existing route, another part of it was actually built as the north end of CT 9 near I-84.
I was gonna mention that too. Unfortunately the Whitehead Expwy would be way too narrow nowadays 😂
MA 2 is actually the Mohawk Trail where it intersects I-91. Mass Ave through Boston and Cambridge is actually MA 2A. A part of MA 111 west of Concord is also given the Mass Ave designation.
Yup & around that area route 2 is also concord turnpike I believe!
Love route 2, one of my favorite MA routes next to 28.
True! A beautiful route - I drove it in one sitting from the Boston Public Gardens all the way to the NY border last February - GORGEOUS!
My faved is ma 128 2nd 127
@@FlySlateRyder_YTlove taking the 127 from Gloucester to Beverly, beautiful houses, coast, and road. a must do for anyone traveling the north shore
When you do the I-94 eastbound or westbound video, can you please include my exit that I always go to La Porte (Exit 40A for US 20 East (South Bend) and US 35 South (La Porte))? I love these videos and your channel as well!
You got it! Thanks!
Just the pictures of the Hartford interstates are anxiety inducing. At 12:50 if you exit to 84 E, that is a VERY tight exit ramp on the left. And approaching from the other side on CT2, you whip around a curve and it splits into four exit ramps.
Yep, have done that before and it is tight if you are traveling by RV in that section.
This is a road I have been on. I remember we stopped in White River Junction at a local restaurant for dinner (Wicked Awesome BBQ). We stayed at a lake house at Lake Willoughby. That's about halfway between St. Johnsbury and Newport. BTW, my friend Ryan the Dictator posted an interstate video of I-70 from the Topeka area east to the east end of the Kansas City area in Missouri. He drove through your old stomping ground of Lawrence, KS. I mentioned to him that if he does the entire I-70 video, when he gets to Limon, have you make a cameo appearance and say "Limon,Limon,Ahhhhh" lol. I did read on Wikipedia that Limon is designated as an official control city because it's a hub city with several roads coming together there.
Hub City of Eastern Colorado? No interstates meet in Limon, although I hear I-27 could be extended to Limon. Then it would be a better Control City, but obviously not a good one at all.
@@spellcast1391 I agree, it's not even as big as my hometown and it only has about 3,000 residents.
I think South 91 from the Canadian Border should be signed for...... Boston Ma because of the South 93 Junction in Saint Johnsbury or Concord or Manchester. Also exit 3 in MA at 12:05 is also the exit you'd take to go to Six Flags New England!
Will Connecticut change its exit numbers from sequential (consecutive) order to mileage based system? It will not be until 2030. Massachusetts and Rhode Island already have their new exit numbers in mileage based system done a few years ago. Vermont does have both sequential and mileage based system along I-89, I-91, and I-93. New York are planning to change its exit numbers to a mileage based system along I-81, and I-88 in the near future. Wish that New Hampshire does change its exit numbers to a mileage based system as well as the last state to have a seat belt law for occupants who are more then 18 years old in the vehicle.
Thanks!
I've been waiting for Todd to do Interstate 94 since the start of my discovery of the channel back for me 10 months ago back on I-69 - Todd is gonna be so happy when he sees that Michigan labels I-94 West as Chicago right from Downtown Detroit - great job MDOT
Thanks so much!
I remember my first time in New England was on this road.
Even though I've only been on this road in Connecticut instead of Vermont, it was Beautiful.
@planetbarrett6055 Early July 2022, drove this northbound from Springfield to I 93. I’m not used to seeing this much green in summer!
Me and my dad took this road and to get back home to Vermont it took us on 691 and I was surprised how close we were to New Haven that just shows you how small v Connecticut is 😂
Kong ord is in NH Con cord is in NC, love to hear the NASCAR announcers make the same pronunciation.
Awaiting I 95 four miles from my residence.
Thanks for sharing 👍
12:12 Connecticut's welcome sign is fine. It has that classic license plate look. Would you prefer it to be like Florida's welcome sign which takes inspiration from Vegas with all the lights?
No, but it basically looks like a rest area exit sign
Greenfield is also a tourist town. It is the gateway to the northern Berkshires and the major east west rte 2
Fun fact: 11:47 is coming from Agawam over the South End Bridge, which was the exit that you featured.
Welcome back! So excited for I-95 next month! One of the best roads I've ever been on. And also Maine!
I wonder if this will be broken down by region like I-90 was.
@@Gatorsfan601 Probably not. I-95 is nowhere near as long as 90. I think it'll just be the normal South/North videos.
Definitely not
@MrQuinnzard It isn’t as long as I 90, but it’s far more dense (especially NoVA to past New Haven). That’s not even mentioning New London to Portland or pretty much the entirety of Florida’s Atlantic coast.
To answer your milepost exit question, Vermont is changing over to mileage based exits but got a 5 year delay waiver. USDOT mandated the extra signage as a condition of the delay.
Great points in here! I was on this road today coming from NYC back up to Mass. Something I want to put in perspective regarding the Manchester CT vs NH point is that although they're close together by US standards, they're over 2 hours apart which is a lot by New England standards. If you were driving from say, New Haven to Manchester NH, you wouldn't even be passing that 291 exit iirc. Obviously, if you were going southbound on 91 at that point, you wouldn't be going to Manchester NH.
Also, semi-related, CT-15 (aka the Merritt Parkway, Wilbur Cross Parkway, and Berlin Turnpike) functions like an interstate alternate or interstate lite for that 95 to 91 route going from NYC to Hartford or vice versa. It connects a lot of important CT routes! :)
Looking forward to I 93. My sister and her family used to live in Goffstown, NH and we had to get on that highway after some time on 495 to finish the trip.
I'm enjoying your channel as a fellow road-tripper (47 states and all 10 Canadian provinces). I'll send you a note to your gmail about "Neil's The Way It Should Be" for some numeric fixes that I would like to see (including renumbering I-87 in NC/VA)
Thank you!
I hear the proposed plan to extend I-91 across the Long Island Sound into New York still has public support, though I hear it is not being planned at the moment. I imagine that probably isn't happening for a while to come, plus building a bridge that long would be extremely complicated and likely take decades to get finished.
I noticed that you have not done a Ranking the State DOTs for New England just yet, though I imagine you'll want to save that for I-95 when we go into Rhode Island and Maine.
I-93 is something I'm looking forward to considering I have a lot of history with the Boston freeways.
Does someone want to build a bridge across Long Island Sound at its widest point? I can’t see that happening.
I've got another I-95 request:
It's nothing personal but I think you'll get a kick out of this Exit.
It's Exit 86 in Virginia. Look it on up on Street View, and see how weird it is. I'm pretty sure that North Carolina or Pennsylvania wouldn't do this. Can you show it?
Thanks!
Thanks so much! Can do
5:11- The Milepost Exit for the I-89 jct is 69.
On another note: Can't wait for I-95! One of the Spotsylvania Exits I requested will be shown (Exit 126 for US 1).
I should’ve bought a Super Sticker! Exit 21 in CT is walking distance from me & I can hear the trucks going by
I used to drive this route a bit when I lived in Metro NYC - I'm now in AZ and it was weird to see an I-91 sign in front of someone's house on 91st Ave in Peoria, AZ
I live off of exit 21.
Amazing interstate & highway history in this area.
6:34 9:30 I-93 Goes From Canton, Massachusetts To St Johnsbury, Vermont Depending On Drivers Could See where they’re off to : The White Mountains, Concord, Manchester, North Of Boston Area Of Massachusetts, The City Of Boston And It Leads Back To Canton Which Was Near Route 128 And I-95 Intersection
93 South is signed Littleton because in Northern New England, roads are signed for the next town or city with significant tourist services and shopping, not population.
9:27 I would put Concord AND Boston on that sign for I-93 south, imo.
I'll just sign Concord, NH there. I'll sign Boston once we skip Concord.
However, after Concord, I'll sign Manchester and Lawrence for secondaries just above Boston.
I thought about it too. However, it’s about equidistant and maybe a little faster to stay on 91 to WRJ and take 89 South to join 93 in Bow, NH. Plus it’s a little less mountainous and you don’t have a 45 MPH one lane stretch like you do through Franconia Notch
Control City Freak: Think about the long term traffic. State DOTs:Well should to him or not. Small Town in the middle of nowhere: It’s fine let West Garnett which is me stay famous
I read a few years back that Massachusetts Highway 2 was considered for conversion to Interstate 92 but nothing came of it. I wonder if this is still under consideration?
So was the route from Albany NY ro Portsmouth NH via NY 7, VT9, NH 9, and US 4... but if such a monstrosity were to be built it would likely be an extension of I-88.
When the Interstate Highway system was being built, I-90 was supposed to go along the MA 2 corridor. But then it was decided that it'll just follow the Mass Pike since it was already there.
I believe there was once planned an I-92 from Glens Falls / Lake George, NY to White River Jct., VT, but that never happened. Only a portion from Rutland to the NY line was built.
Chances of another interstate being built in Vermont are virtually non-existent.
@@Handle_Needs_3_Or_More_Charact Not Vermont, Massachusetts. Parallel to I-90. From Boston to Albany.
You forgot the most famous sign, just before the Derby Line exit there is a sign marking the 45th parallel, midpoint to the North Pole, and at the top of Sheffield Heights, just before the exit for Barton is the sign for the highestelevationon I 91, 1856'.
At the I-391 exit, you comment about Greenfield being the control city because it's the largest next city. That's not true. 91 skirts through the west side of Holyoke, which is also in Hampden County like Springfield. Then Northampton was the county seat of Hampshire County, and is smaller than Holyoke but almost double the population of Greenfield. Greenfield was the county seat of Franklin county (before Massachusetts did away with most county governments).
It would be confusing to have Holyoke as a control city for 91 at the 391 interchange, because 391 ends in downtown Holyoke.
Excellent job pronouncing Agawam!
Good diner there, too. :)
And, according to an interesting booklet I had from 14 years ago with the Top 10 roller coasters in America, home to #5: a Superman themed ride if I remember correctly (and a Six Flags park?)…
@@tylermarchand2996 yes the former Riverside Park which is now Six Flags New England.
the I-93 super 2 will be intresting
I have driven it once in 2021 and it was pretty cool.
And it’s pretty awesome to behold. Granite mountains towering 2000 feet above, almost reminded me of Yosemite, except much greener (by early July, most everything in my local mountains are drying up rapidly)…
I can't figure out why not Quebec City north of St. Johnsbury. This is the way to get there from New York and south if you want to avoid Montreal, and most would.
@bobwhit1544 I think it’s similar to I 15 north of Great Falls. It doesn’t make sense to sign Calgary when there’s a big city well before that does the job fine (Lethbridge). The only major difference here is that the Sherbrooke-Quebec City population differential isn’t anywhere the size of the Lethbridge-Calgary differential.
All right!!!!! My favourite interstate, or at least one of them
I-93 South from 91S is signed for Littleton because it’s the skiing HQ of NH.
I have plenty of experience with I-91. I've only driven as far North as Wells River on this highway. I'd love to visit Derby Line one day
Same here! I have been on 91 from New Haven to White River Junction. I also been on a small part between exits 19-21 in Saint Johnsbury after getting off 93 and driving to US 2.
@@miked31784 I actually did visit St. Johnsbury between Exits 19 and 22 after this original comment was written
Your not missing much at Derby Line, a convenience store where Canadians come to buy their milk and gas, and the Haskell Opera House, there is a spot on the floor where you could stand in both the US and Canada.
Your not missing much at Derby Line, a convenience store where Canadians come to buy their milk and gas, and the Haskell Opera House, there is a spot on the floor where you could stand in both the US and Canada.
I think the New England States need to be graded on a curve because aside from the cities along the Atlantic seaboard, a few State capitals, and junctions with other Interstates, what the heck do you sign...Canada to the north, the Atlantic Ocean to the east and south, and New York to the west.
My way it should be:
Northbound:
Hartford
Springfield
Greenfield/Battleboro, VT
Battleboro, Vermont
Montpelier/Burlington
St. Johnsbury/Littleton, NH
Derby/Montreal
Montreal, Canada
Southbound:
Concord, NH/Boston, MA
Battleboro/Hartford, CT
Springfield/Hartford, CT
Hartford
New Haven/NY City
Bradley International Airport is considered to be the Hartford/Springfield airport.
The way I think it should be
NORTH: Hartford
Springfield Mass
St. Johnsbury
Canada
SOUTH: St. Johnsbury
White River JCT
Springfield Mass
Hartford
New Haven / New York City
0:56 I-91 begins here at the interchange with I-95
A couple of things that piss me off about I-91:
1) the two I-291’s are wayyy too close to one another. The southern one should be I-491 since it’s the newer one.
2) north of Springfield mass, there’s literally no good control city options for this road. I feel like when you get to white river jct, it could be 91 to Sherbrooke QC, and 89 to Burlington/Montreal.
Regardless, I went to UMass Amherst and I-91 was my go-to highway. Really enjoyed this video! 😊
Thanks!
I know that nothing will come from this, but both I-291s are spurs and not loops. The I-291 in MA should have been numbered I-191 as there is no MA 191, so that would not violate the numbering protocol in the Bay State. The I-291 in CT was intended to be a loop. It's very unlikely that the loop will ever be completed. I have no idea where the I-691 numbering came from as that highway technically is a spur of I-91 but could also be construed as a component of a loop of I-84 in order to avoid the center of Hartford.
@@edwardrasmussen3465 I think it has to do with the fact that they connect 91 with other interstates, so I guess it makes sense why they’re evenly numbered. But I definitely hear you about the 291 in Mass, since it ends at a traffic signal
11:15 That Exit Is Like I-495’s Exit 58 In Hopkinton
I think that you need to come to Vermont and learn more about interstate 91! So I recommend you to do a video of interstate 91! Learn it!
The control cities can be confusing North of Springfield, MA
Definitely
The Way It Should Be
The I-91 Expansion
Northbound: Auguste, Maine
Southbound: Artesia Blvd, CA
Merging With The CA-91
My cousin Theodore was mayor of Springfield and had a big part of the city skyline.
Awesome!
For northbound St Johnsbury to the Canadian border it should be saying something like this Interstate 91 North Derby Line Quebec City or Derby Line Sherbrooke. Key reason it's this it's that Interstate 91 forms the New Haven Connecticut to Quebec City Highway
I forget the exact location, but coming out of Montreal there's actually signage for Vermont via I-89 and New Hampshire via I-91, or something to that effect.
And a correction sound auto route 10 E. For 91 Sherbrooke
It's before A-35 On A-10 east., so the selection is clear.
That's on the pull through on A-10 at the A-30 exit. The signage was also on the old Champlain Bridge but the post finishing street view still has the construction signs for A-20, A-15 and so on but no I-89 or I-91.
Your map shows it going to New York City, where it does not go. Its southern end is in New Haven.
Yes, I-91 South ends in New Haven. However, traffic coming from Boston via I-84 to CT 15 to I-91 South need the reassurance sign for NYC. The buses coming from Boston to NYC use the inland route, I-90, I-84 and I-91. Therefore, NYC makes sense.
Manchester, NH is 3 hours away. No one in their right mind thinks a 3 digit interstate outside of California is running 3 hours through 2 additional states.
Northbound, the only control i would change would be canada, as i would replace it with sherbrooke. Im sure the local traffic would know it.
As for southbound, brattleboro should be changed to springfield, as it is not that large and is not an interetate jctn.
Todd the distances are so short I’d skip all those little towns and do something like this -
NB:
Hartford
Springfield
Sherbrooke/Quebec City
SB:
Springfield/Boston
Springfield (after I-93)
Hartford
New Haven/New York
(Maybe SB substitute Concord for Boston and then do Concord/Boston on the I-93 cutoff.
I wouldn’t sign just Canada because there are several cities on the other side of the border.
🤷🏻♂️
That’s exactly why I’d sign just Canada. No particularly obvious pick on the other side.
@@ControlCityFreak Montreal on I-89 and Sherbrooke/Quebec City on I-91 imho.
@pauls49 Yes. I don’t see any reason why anyone latitudinally south of Laconia would use I 93 and I 91 to reach Montreal. Sherbrooke is the perfect choice if following the Connecticut River north of WRJ. It’s less than 25 miles from the international border, and it’s among the 20 largest urban areas in Canada.
Are you gonna do MASS 2 One day
Likely. If I ever do a MA state highway that would be the one I'd pick
Sherbrooke is actually quite "well-known" for people living in New England
@chapman250 Once I saw it has around 200k population, I knew it’d be the perfect Canadian control. For an area that isn’t Montreal or Quebec City, it seems massive…
I think a TV station is available on the cable systems in the Lowell area from Sherbrooke.
They’re all tiny. It doesn’t matter how small the town is, if it has fast food and a Shaw’s, it’s a city by eastern Vermont’s standards. Also if you’re on I-91 that far north getting to Burlington you know where you’re going. White River Junction is considered big enough for a control city because it has a McDonalds and 3 car dealerships. It’s also connected across the river to Lebanon, the city around the college town of Hanover, which has an Ivy League. If you work or live at Dartmouth or in its general area, White River Junction and West Lebanon NH are much more than an interchange. They’re the only places with grocery stores in a 20 mile radius.
2:54 welcome to Massachusetts
I'm not sure how I feel about control countries. At least narrow it down to a province. Or would 'Quebec' in this case cause confusion with Quebec City?
I think it could. I’m usually not in favor of it but given the split to Sherbrooke or Montreal on the Canadian side, I think Canada works in this case.
It would, since I-91 is the best border crossing to use to get to Quebec City for those coming from Southern New England and the Boston area.
Hey Todd, will you have to separate the I-95 videos into 2 or 3 parts, and then make a supercut? I believe this is the second and last time you would have to do that, ever, until you do another country if I'm not wrong.
Probably 4 parts. Not sure yet
Bradley International Airport serves both the Hartford and Springfield areas.
NB:
Hartford/Boston (because remember, I-95 -> I-91 -> I-84 -> I-90 is the fastest route between NYC and Boston)
Springfield
Holyoke/Vermont
Northampton/Vermont
Greenfield/Vermont
Vermont
Brattleboro/Sherbrooke
Lebanon NH/Sherbrooke (Lebanon is significantly larger than WRJ and right across the river)
St. Johnsbury/Sherbrooke
Sherbrooke
SB:
St. Johnsbury/Massachusetts
Lebanon NH/Springfield MA
Brattleboro/Springfield MA
Greenfield MA/Springfield MA
Greenfield/Springfield
Northampton/Springfield
Holyoke/Springfield
Springfield/Hartford
Hartford
New Haven/New York City
Bridgeport/New York City (for that final 1-mile stretch)
@Vitemer448 I 95 to New London and I 395 to Worcester isn’t faster? I can’t imagine it’s easy to navigate Hartford, considering I believe some commenters on the I 84 video mentioned the city has a mess of left hand exits (I might have even seen some in this video).
@@tylermarchand2996 Nope, New Haven to Worcester via I-91 -> I-84 -> I-90 -> I-290 is still 15 miles shorter than I-95 -> I-395 -> I-290.
Also, remember that to make the I-91 NB -> I-84 EB movement, you have to turn onto CT-15 which means that you bypass most of downtown Hartford anyways.
@Vitemer448 I guess it comes down to the vehicle. 15 miles or an extra $2(?) in tolls (I got an invoice for $3.25 from New York to I 91, so I’m just guessing).
Yeah, I think 91-84 would be the usual route between NYC and Boston.
IIRC from the 84 video, NYC is signed at the 90/84 interchange; so it's reasonable to suggest Boston should be signed at 95/91.
the interstate that runs through my state is going to come up soon
Maybe my opinion is invalid since I’m not a New Englander, but I think the control cities north of St. Johnsbury should be Derby Line and Concord. I don’t know why I’ve heard of Derby Line before, but for some unknown reason, I have
Derby Line is where 91 ends and also has the library that is on the border of the two countries. I could see it being signed as Canada from 93 junction northward.
@@miked31784 I have definitely heard of that library and of Canusa Street which straddles the line between the two countries. The north side is in Canada and the south side is in the United States, though you can’t drive south of it without going through customs
@@benjaminchandler7919 Canusa Avenue (not Street) is in Beebe Plain, about 3 km west of Derby Line.
@@pablonh and derby line is the closest incorporated village
@@benjaminchandler7919 But Canusa Avenue is not in Derby Line. It's in the Town of Derby (VT) and the Town of Stanstead (QC).
I’m fine with no CT on Manchester for I-291. It’s a town of about 60k plus there’s a big mall there. We don’t really think much about NH. As for the I-91 Hartford control at the CT 15 exit: it drives me NUTS. It’s like the WRJ/St Johnsbury thing in VT: You’re already in the Hartford city limits, plus entrance signage for I-91/CT 15 from Brainard Rd uses Springfield: it really should be Springfield here. Plus just north of that I-691 exit NB, there’s a cool stretch where I-91 runs between the lanes of CT 15 for about a mile. The only other city you could possibly mention at the north end of 91 is Quebec City, as you’d follow Autoroute 55 to Autoroute 20 to get to the metro area.
There is a Manchester CT and that is where 291 goes.
I'm going to disagree about having Springfield at the 91/15 intersection. You are just barely over the city line and downtown Hartford is the next exit.
I stand by Springfield because A. It’s the control for 91 North from CT 15 at the same interchange B. I-84 starts using Boston as an EB control right at the Hartford city line; the Prospect Ave on-ramp is almost 3 miles west of downtown and uses the next control; and C. It was previously Springfield before the APL’s were added during the Charter Oak Bridge interchange reconstruction.
There isn’t any real reason to keep signing a city when already in said city limits. That, and exit signs can denote the downtown areas perfectly fine.
I 80 westbound in my hometown does the same thing. It enters Reno city limits 3 exits before the official downtown exit. The first exit is an interchange with I 580/U.S. 395. Although it is in Reno city limits, 580/395 serves as a default ‘divider’ between Reno and its smaller sister city Sparks. An overhead pull through nonetheless signs I 80 westbound for Sacramento.
@@tylermarchand2996 I-4 in Orlando along with SR 408, 417, 429 and 528 use Orlando as a control city when the fact that you are in Orlando all ready.
Yay! My hometown interstate!
Awesome!
New Haven to Hartford northbound only
My Control Cities for I-91
North:
Hartford
Springfield
Holyoke
Greenfield
White River Junction
Sherbrooke Canada
South:
Saint Johnsbury
Brattleboro / Springfield
Springfield
Hartford
New Haven
New York City
During my 2024 summer road trip, part of my route followed I 91 southbound from the junction with I 93 towards the northeast corner of Vermont to the Massachusetts Turnpike just outside of Springfield. Out of all highway fragments I drove on, the controls here were probably the weakest; but sadly, there isn’t really much to sign out here.
From the junction, the control is White River Junction. I’m thinking maybe it should be Lebanon, even if 91 never crosses to the New Hampshire side of the Connecticut River. As of today, WRJ isn’t even the biggest CDP in the greater Lebanon area: that’d be neighboring Wilder, but even then it’s still only a third of the size of Lebanon. After WRJ is Brattleboro as a control. Even though the town AND corresponding CDP are the most populous along all of Vermont’s eastern border, I don’t like this. It really should be exclusively Springfield throughout all of Vermont, or even Northampton (adjacent to Amherst, a very well known college town that anyone in New England will probably know about). However, once there’s no exits left in Vermont, the primary becomes Springfield.
Coming into Massachusetts, the primary is Springfield. After leaving Northampton and crossing into Hampden County, the primary becomes Hartford, which is completely agreeable.
i91 is one I know very well as truck driver...
Newport Vermont. The home of Mark E. Shaw Jr. ( Bigfoot It Is). A Howard Stern Whack Packer
“Chicopee” sounds like a bird call, in my opinion.
Do you mean "Chickadee," which is the state bird of Massachusetts? And don't forget the other New England places that end in -pee: Mashpee MA and Sunapee NH (i-89 goes through there). There may be others that I can't think of off the top of my head.
I’m just wondering will you do I-94 part 1 the week after I-93?
I've been on I 91 a few times..
INTERSTATE 91 0:00
MY 3Rd FAVED INTERSTATE
Samm Said's The Way It Should Be for I-91:
Northbound:
Hartford/Springfield
Springfield/Boston (I-84 East to I-90 East goes to Boston)
Brattleboro/Burlington
Montpelier/Burlington (I-89 North goes to those places)
St. Johnsbury/Sherbrooke
Sherbrooke/Quebec City
Southbound:
St. Johnsbury/Concord
Concord/White River Jct
Springfield/Boston
Brattleboro/Springfield
Springfield/Hartford
Hartford/New Haven
New Haven/New York City (I-95 South goes to New York City)
Don’t know why you’d sign Boston north out of Hartford. 84 is behind you at that point. Also Springfield/Boston could be the very first sign southbound. Not sure why you would sign Concord over Springfield. Both are out of state, but Springfield is on the actual route and also much larger.
Predictions for next Episodes:
I-93 3/16/23
I-94 East 3/23/23
I-94 West 3/30/23 (My birthday)
I-95 North 4/6/23
Todd Ranks the Northwest State DOTs 4/13/23
I-95 South 4/20/23
I-96 4/27/23
I-97 5/4/23
I-99 5/11/23
Tod Ranks the New England State DOTs 5/18/23
Nice! Your prediction date for Todd Ranks the Northwest State DOTs is actually on my Birthday! Since, I-95 goes through a lot of states and major cities, so I believe it there will be Southern and Northern videos for that Interstate. Will take a long while to get to I-96.
Where and how exactly do I request an exit?
Just leave a Superthanks comment and request away!
@@ControlCityFreak Uh, I’m not eligible for Superthanks
I always wonder, how old are you
He ain't legal
lol
@@ControlCityFreak are you sure
Seems like Connecticut is the state with the most button copy still around.
MassDOT used to use CT or CT-style (I don't know which is correct) signs in western MA, particularly along I-90. I remember the hollowed out MA 33 sign in Chicopee from years ago. Since is live in TX now, perhaps someone can say if the two states are still sharing signs and sign styles.
" #AtRandomInterchanges "
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lol
There's no interstate 92?
Nope
Nope.
Maybe in about 1000 years from South Bend IN to Ann Arbor MI paralleling US 12 lol.
no 98 yet either.
Why doesn't I 92 exist, is it even planned or proposed, and where is the proper geographical corridor for it.
Too bad you already did I40 otherwise I'd pay $5 for you to mention Crossville lol
14:54 you're welcome
Control cities should be
North
Hartford
Springfield
Brattleboro
White River Junction
St. Johnsbury
Newport
Canada
South
Newport
St. Johnsbury
White River Junction
Brattleboro
Springfield
Hartford
New Haven
I guess what Vermont did here wasn’t THAT bad, but it is still probably best signed as the drive-they state that it is. But yes, very gorgeous. Funny you mentioned it not being common to drive past WRJ only to take I 93 S to New Hampshire, because that’s exactly what I did during my 2022 summer road trip. You didn’t really capture this in the pictures, but while I 91 does parallel the Connecticut River, it rests on a ridge above the river. Because of this, it is VERY hilly, which makes for an enjoyable ride. Anyways, here’s my mileage control list.
HARTFORD: BEGINNING-Connecticut Exit 31 (3.9 miles to first exit in Hartford)
SPRINGFIELD/WORCESTER: Connecticut Exit 31-Connecticut Exit 36 (via CT 15 N to I 84 E to I 90 E to I 290 E; 59.3 miles to the first exit in Worcester)
SPRINGFIELD: Connecticut Exit 36-Connecticut Exit 51 (10.5 miles to first exit in Springfield)
BURLINGTON/SHERBROOKE: Connecticut Exit 51-Vermont Exit 10N/69B (via I 89 N; 86.9 miles to first exit in “Burlington”)
SHERBROOKE: Vermont Exit 10N/69B-END (via A-55 N; 35.8 kilometers to first exit in Sherbrooke)
MANCHESTER/NASHUA/SPRINGFIELD: BEGINNING-Vermont Exit 19/128 (via I 93 S to I 293 S; 119.5 miles to first exit in Manchester)
MANCHESTER/NASHUA/SPRINGFIELD: Vermont Exit 19/128-Vermont Exit 10S/69A (via I 89 S to I 93 S to I 293 S; 73.2 miles to first exit in Manchester)
SPRINGFIELD: Vermont Exit 10S/69A-Massachusetts Exit 10 (1.7 miles to first Springfield exit)
HARTFORD: Massachusetts Exit 9-Connecticut Exit 48 (8.4 miles to first exit in Hartford)
WATERBURY/NEW HAVEN: Connecticut Exit 48-Connecticut Exit 38C (via I 84 W; 25.8 miles to first exit in Waterbury)
NEW HAVEN: Connecticut Exit 38C-Exit 10 (8.2 miles to first New Haven Exit)
BRIDGEPORT/NORWALK/STAMFORD: Connecticut Exit 10-END (via I 95 S; 19.3 miles from first Bridgeport Exit)
North of Springfield, I think geometry makes Burlington a sensible off-the-road control, but after that, just do Sherbrooke. It really doesn’t make sense to sign Montreal from over here, because even as far north as Laconia, it’s probably faster to go through Burlington.
Southbound, I have Manchester and Nashua as co-controls past the I 93 interchange because, even in WRJ, they’re closer than Springfield (and, I 93 does have a special “quirk” that I 89 avoids). Also, I skipped over Concord because the urban core is only 44k, just short of my 50k threshold. If some of the surrounding towns had urbanized areas bordering the city, it very likely would be over 50k.
The general geometry of I 84 and I 91 in Hartford allows for some good off-the-road controls in both directions. Admittedly, 91S-84W works better than the reciprocal, since people wanting to get to Worcester (or Boston) from New Haven would more likely continue on I 95 to New London.
And at the end, Bridgeport is co-signed with Stamford and Norwalk because Bridgeport isn’t overwhelming larger than the other Fairfield County cities (in fact, Stamford is almost identical in size to Bridgeport, and there’s a fourth city of similar size to Norwalk along the I 84 corridor in the same county). I was very close to dropping Stamford and Norwalk on account of how CT 15 serves those cities while bypassing New Haven and Bridgeport; unfortunately, oversized vehicles are apparently not allowed on it past Milford (only really bypassing New Haven).
At risk of sounding like a broken record, overhead signs can skip over modest metro areas (not that Worcester and Fairfield County are modest in any sense of the word); I’m concerned with the mileage signs, as they should let motorists know what the next urban area is, not the biggest that happens to be close.
I'm the first person to see this!!!
I think I was first as well. You can’t see the other comments until the end of the video.
@@miked31784 Oh, right.
Btw Todd, MA-2 is Commonwealth Ave in Back Bay in Boston, not Mass Ave
Oh no!
Kind of confusing, but yes, Mass. Ave. is MA-2A, not MA-2. It does eventually merge into MA-2 West of Lexington and East of Concord.
Oh ok, then I’m not too far off. Spoiler: 93 vid says the same
Mod's the way it should be:
(NORTH): Hartford, Springfield, Burlington (until I-89), St. Johnsbury, Quebec City
(SOUTH): St. Johnsbury, Springfield MA (until Massachusetts), Springfield, Hartford, New Haven, New York City
In my opinion, WRJ is a horrible pick. Signing just because of an Interstate junction is not a good reason, especially since it's not even an incorporated town.
@moderateproductions9088 I do like Burlington until WRJ northbound, but I’m not hot on anything else in Vermont. And this far up the Connecticut River, Sherbrooke should be the control. 200k (massive for a city that isn’t Montreal or Quebec City), only 35 kilometers (
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@@tylermarchand2996 the only reason Sherbrooke has that population is because the Quebec government merged the suburbs and the outlying rural areas with the city. The main core of Sherbrooke has a considerably smaller population and the people in the former municipalities don't consider themselves part of Sherbrooke.
P Okay, I looked up what you mentioned, and yes, a big merger did take place 20 something years ago. However, the actual core wasn’t as small as you (perhaps unintentionally) made it out to be: 76k pre-merge to 140k post-merge. If the merge didn’t happen, the core would probably be around 95k today. That’s still big (especially for a Québécois city far from the St. Lawrence River), but I probably would have included said annexations into my almost 180k population figure regardless. If we only went off of raw city populations, Greenville, South Carolina wouldn’t be that prominent.
@@tylermarchand2996 Sherbrooke may be big, but it’s not famous.
Concord = Kon Kid … now you can speak Bostonese. 🥳
lol