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Mr. Beat compares and contrasts New Hampshire and Vermont.
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Both are bordering states in these United States in a region known as New England, the area of the country first settled by European colonists when they came over and, you know, kicked Native American nations off their lands throughout the 1600s. The Connecticut River separates them, and each joke the other state is the upside-down version of itself.
So although Vermont and New Hampshire are right next to each other, and although they are about the same size, and although even the shape of each state is similar to a point where people often mix them up, there are a lot of differences between the two.
Before we get to the differences, let’s keep going with what they have in common. Both have a lot of natural beauty, filled with rolling hills, mountains, streams, lakes, and forests. Both have plenty of protected land. Vermont has the Green Mountain National Forest and New Hampshire has the White Mountain National Forest. The Green Mountains in Vermont and White Mountains in New Hampshire are both part of the northern Appalachian Mountains, a range that goes up and down the eastern portion of the country. New Hampshire has the taller highest peak of the two states, with Mount Washington, one of the windiest places on earth. On April 12, 1934, scientists recorded a wind speed of 231 miles per hour on the top of the mountain, which is still the world record for wind speed if you don’t count cyclones or tornadoes.
Vermont does have a more rugged terrain, overall, and in fact New Hampshire’s land gets all chill and flat in the southeast portion of the state. It even borders the Atlantic Ocean. For 18 miles (29km). The shortest ocean coastline of any state, but at least it’s not landlocked like Vermont!
Tons of Americans who live in the NORTHEAST MEGALOPOLIS go to both Vermont and New Hampshire for tourism, especially for outdoorsy stuff like fishing, hunting, and hiking. Winter sports like skiiing and snowmobiling are also big in the winter in both states. Oh, and don’t forget the fall foliage! Oh my, it’s so pretty.
Both states have a lot of people with lighter skin. The vast majority of people in both states trace most of their ancestry back to Europe. The earliest European settlers were mostly Puritans and other groups from Britain, but before the English arrived French explorers checked out both states. These European settlers encountered various Native American nations already living there for hundreds of years. Most of them were Algonquian-speaking Abenaki tribes, although in Vermont the Pennacook and Mohican tribes also resided.
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Which state is better? Vermont or New Hampshire? What did I leave out but should have mentioned about either state?
NH has the largest state legislature in the USA. For some reason, we New Hampshirites feel the need for 424 legislators.
Defnaitly New Hampshire
I'm from Vt and I'd say new Hampshire jk Vermont a lot better
I think I would rather live in New Hampshire because it is not landlocked, has more people, and it is an important state for presidential elections. Although Ben And Jerry's Ice Cream is from Vermont.
Oh Donna.
As someone who was born and lives in New Hampshire... Let’s settle our differences and thank god we don’t live in Mass
Edit: One year later from my original comment. For reasons beyond my control I have ended up moving to Mass... I have now confirmed first hand that everything said about Massholes in the comments is true. Please send your prayers as I am slowly transformed into the very thing I feared. Everyday I continually plan my shopping trip to NH and I often find myself driving like an idiot. I even can’t help but think about vacationing in NH only to disrupt the locks. I believe it’s to late for me to be saved. Goodbye NH.. (slowly sees license plate changing from NH to Mass)
Connor Kelley I second that
still stuck in Mass but I got family up in NH, can't wait to escape this hellhole to go literally one state north to heaven lmao
Nothing worse than a masshole
I'm from Vermont, but I can definitely agree with that lol
Western mass isn’t so bad
VT if you're a stoner, NH if you're a drinker
what if you're both?
Jon W There are plenty of border towns and Massachusetts exists.
Life long resident of NH and a stoner. Lots of stoners in NH...
We're both of those plus heroin. I bet we're also one of the highest for depression.
Pretty much sums it up
This is probably the first time I’ve seen a video that acknowledges the existence of Vermont.
Wow you must live in a different world or have a real low education it's in one of the first English colonies wow some people you must live in new york or something similar
Christopher French dude I’m literally from Vermont. I was simply saying it was surprising to hear my state mentioned in a youtube video when it is usually ignored. Also vermont was not one of the first English colonies. It used to be part of New York, then became its own country before it joined the union as the 14th state.
I agree! I was born in New Hampshire and now live in VT and never hear Vermont in ANYTHING.
@@Dylan-wi6lp I know. Where are you from? Vermont. Is that in Canada? Um, no, close, try again.
@Dylan 2007 I live in vermont and sometimes I end up telling people in discord about it and some of them dont even know it exists. I’m talking about other people who live in America.....
As a Vermonter i’m just glad someone acknowledges our existence
agreed
Thank gosh
Why Vermont has always been the most independent state in America
Vermonts a cool place only been once tho, ive gone to maine and nh much more
@@jacobbutters8818 I was born and raised in Vermont it is nice but I left 25 yrs ago
People need to stop acknowledging that New Hampshire and Vermont exists I like the quiet like the low crime rate
Your racist
@@duckcluck123 And I guess we found the racist.
@@duckcluck123 completely agree, people calling you racist are mindless NPCs who are programmed to react that way and can't think for themselves :)
John Linsky Saying that the best part about them is the fact that they are mostly white is racist.
@@benjaminpickles2642 Its not racist to prefer to be around your own, or to notice differences in crime statistics. Denying reality leads to more suffering.
We don't measure distance in miles. My buddy's house is 20 minutes east, my work is 5 minutes away and it's only 3 hours to Canada.
Lol ive always lived here in nh- do other people usually measure in miles? XD
@@learnart2gether apparently. Who knew?
Connecticut native here & I also do it by time!
Is that not a normal thing? I thought everyone measured distance in time haha
@@rawsaucerobert nope, some people actually measure in miles and tell you about it. Like, who looks at the odometer? But we all look at the time, right!?
You forgot to mention 1 thing about New Hampshire: Most people come here just to buy fireworks.
Every time I see a Mass. plate I say "Thanks for driving through the toll! Don't forget to stop at the liquor store on your way home!"
Or buy LITERALLY EVERYTHING because sales tax
I only step foot into that state for no sales tax, cheaper booze and cigarettes, and fireworks.
And we appreciate your business!
Yea do business with us and go home. Sounds perfect
NH is also the only state in the country where you don't have to wear a seatbelt when you're over 18.
*Live Free Or Die Intensifies*
Or a motorcycle helmet.
Yeah but don't smoke weed or grow your own, they will arrest you. They don't even have normal bars, how free is that. I have also been pulled over multiple times and never been ticketed, just harassed. My good friend was hit on his motorcycle by a man who was clearly intoxicated but the towny police gave him a hall pass and threatens to arrest me because I called them on it. Every state and country, Canada that borders NH weed is legal. Live Free or Die is just some nonsense saying someone came up with. Vermont is much more free as is most of New England.
Live free, and most likely die while doing it
Live Free *And* Die
No seatbelts you say? This is what I call *TRUE FREEDOM*
Vermont has a lot of ex-New Yorkers. New Hampshire has a lot of Ex-Massachusetts residents. Geology is quite different too.
New Hampshire is where all the granite comes from for the Civil War memorials, not to sure what the comments ore is for Vermont though.
I don't get it in NH the Massachusetts people are very rude... I don't understand why.
Kyrgyz Jeff: Vermont has a lot of marble. There's still actually an active quarry in Rutland where they have a museum and working sculptors. Most of the marble you see in federal buildings and monuments in Washington DC comes from Vermont. Including busts of all the Presidents.
Because they have the money to go to NH, buy huge land and houses, and lord it over the locals.
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They are more from the Boston area probably. Guns are highly restricted there and an armed society is a polite society.
Western Massachusetts is mostly rural(ish) or springfield (where illegal guns are easy to get). An armed society tends to be politer.
All northern New Englanders call outsiders, "Flatlanders "
Because the three northern New England states are mostly hills and mountains just like West Virginia.
Robert Preskop They sure do. I lived in New Hampshire for twenty years. Mountains everywhere.
No they don't.
Flatlanders is a term also used by folks in Colorado and Utah
Am I the only one that thinks it is highly ironic that the region that is most renowned, politically as the bastion of leftism, has a strong in group preference?
Vermont became the first to abolish slavery in 1777, while it was still independent, before it joined the United States as the 14th state in 1791. These state jurisdictions thus enacted the first abolition laws in the Americas. Vermont had also made sure to give African American men the right to vote. Pretty good addition to this list I'd say lol.
Slavery wasn't even a thing in Vermont, that's probably why.
@@greysonG10 Was it in NH?
well that makes me feel better about this crappy place
simply.alexia sounds like a racist New Yorker who has never travelled outside the burroughs of NYC.
You poor thing. I'm so sorry to hear that.
@@richardworkman5416 i live in vermont & i’m far from racist. lol. i’m happy vermont eas one of the first places to abolish slavery.
Californians: I wish California had lower crime rates and no air pollution 😢
Me: *Laughs in New Hampshire*
@Brandon Taylor you spelt California wrong
Your so lucky 😭
Coal covered hillbilly Stop making me jealous 😭
i moved from nh to ca. love the weather here, nothing else...
Legal weed is expensive. It's decriminalized here and cops don't usually bother an adult with less than a "personal use" amount.... 3/4 oz by law. Unless you have a scale, little baggies and a wad of cash your fine. I do wish we could cultivate.
When your hometown gets a shoutout for having a low cost of living and you're working two jobs to pay rent
Well that just sounds like the rest of the country. It's what they call "The American Dream." /s
My hometown in Enosburg Falls, Vermont. Personally, in my opinion, it sucks here. Nothing happens and it’s always ridiculously cold in the winter, and sometimes too too hot in the summer.
I was living in new York city for long time, now I am living in new Hampshire..wishing go back to new York city.
Nothing here. No jobs opportunity.,
@@Tyler-qj8ts I live in St. J, its fine here with a movie theater and some ok restaurants... Also one of the best high schools in the country. Ultimately, Vermont in general is more of a retirement state then one for the youth.
@@miguelinamencia3710 Theres plenty of jobs. What line of work do you do?
NH native here. We're better for certain, but those Vermonters aren't too shabby either ;) They're pretty good neighbors, but you *do* need to look out for those crazy Mainers!
Oak Knob Farm No it’s those Massholes
Ya guy
Oak Knob Farm lol I'm a NH too!
I live in the southeast, so we get both Maine-iacs and Massholes over here. I have to be careful what I say, however, my wife is from Massachusetts ;)
@ Wiccan Moon: Howdy, neighbor!
Vermont, New Hampshire, either one of them is far better than Massholechusetts
Agreed. I live in mass and hate it here. Everyone is rude, prices and taxes are insane, it’s too close to everything. I live in Rutland. What once was a nice small farm town you can now find drug needles in the park. There are home break ins, murders, I don’t even want to go on. Idiot drivers even here. There’s been about 20 accidents in the past 6 years in front of my house. 2 of which someone died, 3 of which a car flipped over and landed on our front lawn.
@@jonathantanasi2557 Well move to the Hill towns in West. mass! You have all the benefits of living near civilization without the zoo-like atmosphere!
Massive-two-shits
Unless you want to make money.
I live in northeast MA almost on the NH border and I wish I lived in NH not that its unsafe or anything, it just feels really bleak.
NH actually has a good reason not to pay our reps: we want them to be productive members of society and have jobs and not just do normal politician stuff and not really contribute anything like people in the federal house of reps.
90% of state reps in NH are retired people who can afford to do just that. So doesn't really work out anyway lol
We also have the largest state rep in the entire country.
Its the largest because its a bunch of rich people in the state that can afford to not be paid anything.
@@kaylutz5824 my town's state rep is a middle school guidance councilor. I believe one councilor is a hunter or farmer or something.
@@chilkootsailor492 and how close are they to concord?
New Hampshire is the only state without a seat belt law for people over 18 and has state run liquor stores
Liquor stores on the highway!
MrTwistawrench: Yup. There are several New Hampshire state liquor stores that are in highway rest areas. I find it funny that considering all their blather about the virtues of private enterprise, the state government runs a monopoly on the sale of alcohol other than wine and beer.
SnowFire:. They're also the only state that doesn't require you to carry liability insurance on your car. And a lot of people don't. And then they drive down into Massachusetts, cause crashes, and then the other driver, who was not at fault, ends up having to pay for the repairs to their own car. Everybody always whines about the illegal immigrants driving without insurance. I've never had a problem with them. On the other hand I have had two cars totaled when they were hit by a New Hampshire drivers who did not have insurance. And since they were old cars I didn't have collision insurance. So, I was left without a car. And had to scrape up enough money to buy another one. That's a really big deal when you're a college student, who needs your car to commute to school and work.
And then they blather on about personal responsibility while driving around without making sure that they are able to properly compensate someone to whomthey cause harm. They have no ability or intention of doing so. Even if you manage to win in court, it's basically impossible to collect damages.
Live free or die
SnowFire state run liquor stores that sounds like socialism.
I grew up in New Hampshire and have always loved Vermont. Maine and Massachusetts are also great. I've spent less time in Rhode Island and Connecticut, but they seem cool too. The provincialism gets pretty real in New England, which is silly because they're much more similar than they are different. It can be expensive, but it's a great part of the world to live in.
True that, great to hear your perspective. I think provincialism is an issue everywhere really.
Rhode island is the only one that's different ...lol it's not even an island ...haha
New England as a whole is actually pretty interesting.
@@beejohn1016 Its not, but we sure wish it were! LOL Rhode island is the red headed step child of New England , that we tried to give up for adoption, but nobody wanted!
@@inconnu4961 Red-headed kids are adorable. Don't say mean things.
Because of this video my wife and I did some research on New Hampshire. Found an awesome job and moved out of Illinois. Love New Hampshire !
Please don't vote for the same kind of people that run Illinois, we would like to keep NH nice.
Aw, I hate Illinois laws and policies but love everything else. I am pretty jelly of you tho.
@@masc2fighter If you want to keep NH nice you need for vote for left wing candidates, progressive only. No conservatives, no moderates, no libertarians. This applies to all 50 states.
One thing not mentioned is how the Connecticut river border is unique. Most river borders between states are divided down the middle of the river but the Vermont/New Hampshire border at the Connecticut river is marked at the river bank on the Vermont side meaning that New Hampshire “owns” all of the Connecticut river where it borders Vermont. When you cross a bridge from New Hampshire to Vermont, you are not in Vermont until you reach the other side of the bridge.
Not to be a tool but what does that mean?
@@johnlozauskas778 New Hampshire is responsible for the maintenance of all the bridges.
Maryland owns all the Potomac river Virginia has none.
People here in Oregon LOVE Vermont. There's a small obsession with the idea of moving there and living off grid.
It does seem there are so many similarities between the two, in terms of culture.
Mr. Beat That's what I hear. Bernie Sanders sure is popular over here in Portland.
Stefan Milo
Actually after seeing Oregon and the political divisiveness I decided that Vermont was going to be my home years ago at that time it was politically cohesive unlike Oregon
sitdowndogbreath you're right about that. I've only lived in Oregon for 3 years but I was very surprised by how divided it is.
Stefan Milo , vermont and oregon are two strong progressive states, but oregon is nice too , why moving to vermont if ypu have portland and springfield!
Live free or die New Hampshire 👍👍
Wes I’m worried about
a state that mentions death on the license plate!-George Carlin
Jon Stewart: Don't forget "Famous Potatoes!". As the great George Carlin said, "I think that the truth lies somewhere in between, hopefully closer to famous potatoes."
Oddly enough, they don't necessarily live up to that motto. Back in the 1970s there was a person who covered that up on his license plate because he was, as I recall, a Quaker, and he felt that he was being forced to say something he did not believe. The case ended up going all the way to the Supreme Court, who found in his favor, arguing that no citizen should be required by the government to express somethig they did not believe, and in fact was in direct violation of the both their freedom of speech and freedom of religion. I'm pretty sure the decision was actually 9-0, as it was a pretty blatant attack on some things pretty clearly in the Bill of Rights.
Of course, given 10 years, they managed to forget that and went after another person. That one didn't make it all the way to the Supreme Court, only to Federal District Court who quoted the ruling from the 70s.
Wes YA!!!
Im worried you guys are gotta bring an angry mob for being a puertorican moving to NH is true you hate anyone who not a white guy.
What did I learn: New Hampshire has an Atlantic coast...for 18 miles.
It's really pretty. Just avoid Hampton Beach and you'll love it.
@@iShavedYesterday hey now I grew up going to Hampton Beach yes its shit now but at least its there
And we have a 100-mile coastline with lake Champlain
@@nohateoneday yeah but we have lake wineypasuckey :(
Don't suppose the coast cares!
Every year I travel from my home in Manchester england to see my relatives in Manchester NH
Manchester 😬
@@cici-tb4ml which one haha
@@Joe-gg4nq lmaoo NH, just visited and it's a nice city, but theres a lot if drugs and a lot of panhandlers
@Purple Haze Do you fly... United?
@@thankfulfool too right haha
Anyone else live in New Hampshire?
Belknap county
I do it’s trash. There’s nothing fun to do here. I’m in Laconia area.
Rockingham County
Yeah but live in a small farm like town so dont really know what the rest is like
Kevin Ahearn me
Also, New Hampshire has the death penalty. Vermont does not
Lee Harvey Oswald true
The death penalty got repealed in New Hampshire on May 30th 2019
Mat 727 New Hampshire has one person on death row but they haven't had an execution since 1937
Not anymore
NH had hanging as a death penalty until it was abolished outright. Adultery is also a crime
I lived in Manchester for 6 years before moving to Seattle. I do miss a number things about New Hampshire. Specifically I miss the fall colors and Hampton Beach.
And low crime rates😂
Hampton beach of all beaches? Lmao
I’m from Seattle and thinking about moving to New Hampshire. How did you like Manchester?
@@joeplanter7959 Hard to say because it was 2007. I left Manchester to come to Seattle. Honestly both places have their ups and downs. Employment security and Manchester is far less than Seattle but now it much cheaper (not the case in 07')
I’ll be retiring in 14 years from upstate NY and NH looks perfect!!
Funny because driving through up state Ny and Pa I always thought of NH but better.
You didn’t mention how NH has a “Stand Your Ground” Law and VT has a “Duty To Retreat Law”, but that could fit in the category of politics mentioned in the video
Vermont is debatably the most left wing state in the union, while New Hampshire is the epicentre of New England, midly liberal, fiscally conservative, Republicanism.
If someone breaks in my house there's no way in hell I'm retreating.
Idc what the law is, I do not have a duty to allow someone to waltz into my home and take whatever they want.
legislature.vermont.gov/statutes/section/13/053/02305 I suggest you do some research before commenting on social spaces. 16 year old individuals are allowed to "constitutionally carry", there are no NFA restrictions, and no permits required for purchase, you just need to be 21.
@Kevdawg Sutton III% Pro Gun-Rights Activist It's not illegal to possess higher capacity magazines in the state of VT.
Vermont does not require a permit for concealed carry though.
If you ever have trouble remembering which state is which - Vermont is shaped like a V (at least when oriented correctly).
That's literally how I finally remembered the different between the two. However, I like to look at the world like this: vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/althistory/images/0/0a/Possible_Sideways_Earth_map.png/revision/latest?cb=20140819061626
Aren't they both V ish?
New Hampshire is more A ish. Or upside V ish.
Vermont is also on the left, physically, as well as politically....
KB is errwurr
The photos of the Connecticut River are from atop Mt. Sugarloaf in Sunderland, a small town in Western Massachusetts.
The biggest difference is Boston. One-third of people in NH live in the Boston metro area and two-thirds live in the Boston combine statical area. The reason NH politics is more libertarian is people move to NH to get out of MA. The reason NH is wealthier and more populace is people can work in Boston. The reason we have more industry was mill owners from Boston. That's why NH and VT were very similar before the creation of suburbs and are still very similar once you leave Greater Boston.
NH makes the most sense when compared to Vermont AND Maine. Maine is very conservative, Vermont is very liberal. NH is the perfect balance of both and is very protective of personal liberties.
I LOVE NH. Moved there about 7 years ago and couldn't imagine living anywhere else
How do you deal with the dark frozen winter?
I wouldn’t say Maine is “very conservative”, if anything it’s about as conservative as NH
NH is awesome it’s way more relaxed than MA
Elizabeth we snuggle a bunny....lol
Maine is actually pretty comparable to NH as far as laws go but they tax a lot more
I'm probably moving to New Hampshire once I get out of the Army.
You can always join the NH Guard, best of both worlds!
I read your name as Alexander Fortnite.
What has happened to me?
Why not VT?
If u do move to Berlin homes are cheap their
Fatoosh because there’s no jobs within 150 miles
If you have a family with children or are planning to both states are excellent, great skiing and snowboarding most schools have a program in elementary that take them every Friday after school. The Springs and Summers are perfect not too hot or humid ( for the most part ) And the Fall may actually be my favorite when all the leaves turn beautiful colors. If I was a billionaire I would still live here Southern NH is an amazingly wonderful place with good people.
I'm Canadian so I have to love them both equally.
A an NH resident, who has lived in VT, I can pretty fairly that NH fully embodies the state motto of “Live free or die” far more than VT. It’s a relationship to tourism that allows business owners to thrive while providing the consumer an unforgettable experience, all the while the 9% prepared food tax funds our government. Outside the economy NH is extremely lax, with some of the loosest firearms laws in the nation (THE loosest in New England), the lack of a seatbelt law for those over 18, and a slew of other lax regulations. It’s a beautiful state, and the cold keeps the flatlanders away for 8 months of the year.
Well, they come to ski.
Live free or die is a joke. You can’t even tint your car windows in NH.
@@mike-uw6wt that's a federal law. State has no control over that.
@@mike-uw6wt Do you know how effortless it is to get a tint waiver from your PCP?
NH has better tourism industry because y’all let flatlanders in. As left and Vermont may be we don’t want any flatlanders anywhere near here. We’ll be cordial if we see you but secretly wish for an 8 month winter to drive you away
I used to live in NH, moved to VT because of the cheaper cost of living and higher quality of interaction. Based of my experiences VT jobs pay better because even if you don't have a degree, there is less competition so your skills are more valuable. I'm pleased with my move, I just miss the ocean every so often.
Bernie Sanders is from NYC. He is a flatlander. Not a local of Vermont.
Actually, one of the most beautiful regions in New English is called the "Upper Connecticut River Valley," or just the "Upper Valley." That regions straddles both sides of the river; my family lived on both sides. It's as if the two sides of the river there have more interaction with each other than they do with their own respective states. Really, it's the best of both worlds.
I agree. I live in Hanover, NH and we even share a school district with Norwich, VT.
@@RocketDaveA My family lived in that school district. My mother lived in Hanover, and my brother and his family lived in Norwich. His kids went to elementary school in Norwich (I don't know about middle school), and then went to Hanover High School.
@@gerberjoanne266 Hanover has a middle school (6 - 8 grade), and Norwich kids go there starting in 7th grade.
I wouldn't call West Lebanon or White River beautiful. Especially White River, the epitome of creepy shitholes.
I live in Vermont it’s nice here but the reason why the population is mostly older people is because once people here graduate high school they move out of state because there is not much to do here other than nature stuff
Yup. Once you get out of college, it's all downhill. Job market is a joke too. Kind of a depressing state to live in.
Is it a good place to visit
@@erikarommel so it's relatively chill and safe right?
ᎮOSEIƊON FC it’s the safest place in the country as far as crime is concerned
I did a hike on Mt. Killington in Rutland on Saturday, so I drove through a decent amount of Vermont.. Beautiful state, but man does it look boring.. I was even telling my friend, the only thing to do here is hike
NH does have a sales tax, but it's limited to prepared food and lodgings, ie skinning the tourists and leaf peepers. That's why there's so few Wal Marts in VT. "Monters use NH's. On the weekends, the Wally World parking lot in Littleton is nothing but VT license plates.
Fundamental difference:
VT: Come see how pretty we are. Please spend some money
NH: Welcome to NH. Leave your money. Go away.
Grace Skerp: ever notice that two of the three nicest cities in all of New Hampshire are on the Vermont border? Keene and Hanover. They're are also two of the most liberal. Third place goes to Portsmouth, which of course is on border with Maine...
On the other hand, Manchester is god-awful tacky, dirty, and filled with nothing but strip malls, big box stores and car dealerships.
I'd say it's more because Hanover and Keene are both college towns. Dartmouth pre-dates the Revolution and in the US anything that pre-dates that incident is ancient. Both towns have a productive purpose and diversity. Plus Hanover has a significant medical center.
Manchester on the other now is just a tax haven and bedroom for Mass. It's a depressing sight all those abandoned red brick factories along the Merrimack. *Those were the days my friend; we thought they'd never end...
Portsmouth? Maybe because it sits on our 17 miles of sea shore? Point of pride or keeps us from becoming Vermont East - the other New England land locked state? ;)
Thank you, james c.
Ah ha ha ha ha...Grace, so true! Up until 3 years ago, Bennington Vermont had the reputation of having the smallest Walmart in Walmart's chain. Now they have a superstore. It certainly needed it.
Pywaket Pilot,if you think those are the nicest cities in NH, you don't know NH. The best cities in NH are Berlin and Claremont. Laconia is a distant third.
I was born and raised in New Hampshire and I spend a lot of time in Vermont usually for work. Both are great states and are very similar. NH doesn’t have a sales tax while VT does. NH has a slightly larger population; Vermont is the second least populated state in the US. NH I feel has more of a balance of rural, suburban and “city” life. When I’m in Vermont, it feels like it’s mostly rural and than bam you’re in Burlington. Both have beautiful natural beauty and a lot of outdoor opportunities like hiking and skiing. It’s illegal to have billboards in VT! It’s easier to get around NH than VT I think. The major highway in NH (93) goes through the middle of the state from top to bottom so it’s easy to get around. Vermont has 2 major highways (89 and 91) 89 goes horizontally through the state at an angle from the Hanover border of NH up through Burlington VT and up north to the Canadian Border. 91 traces the edge of the state bordering NH and the CT River. Sure you get travel up the side of the state ok, but when you when to get somewhere inside the state, expect a fair amount of driving (but it has lovely views). NH I think has better cell coverage than VT. (VT has gotten better over the years) VT, unlike NH, has charging stations for electric cars which is cool. VT also has more farmers markets and really great fresh food. NH has pockets of them, but nothing compared to VT. I love both states :)
NH native here. I read the comments and just wanted to say I love NH mountains, VT pastures, ME shorelines, MA humor, CT charm.... I could go on and on.
In a nutshell, let's not be dicks and talk shit about other states. We're better than that... Live Free or Die...Bienvenue.... C'mon we just shout 'welcome'!!!!!! ❤ and p.s.- we all love weed
But everyone still forgets poor little RI 😛
CT has nothing to do with those states. CT is in the NY/NJ/CT tri-state.
@data_recovery not true
But where is the fun in that? Thats like a family NOT making fun of each other! Bore me to death why dontcha! LOL
“Lighter skin” lol just say that they’re white af 😂
@Sir Knight Errant How is that racist? You need to stop playing the race card over everything.
Sir Knight Errant calm down dude.
Sir Knight Errant “darker skin” lol just say they black asf
Sir Knight Errant there i reversed it still not offensive
Sir Knight Errant what’s wrong with pointing out that someone is pale or dark?
“Live Free or Die!” Love my state
The only place in New England where the spirit of the Revolution still lives
So if I choose to not live free, then I die?
Onion juice exactly 😎
Onion juice no you move to Vermont
Haha yah move to Vermont if you don't get. 603 for life. Everybody owns guns here
If you're a hiker, It's New Hampshire that's the best. Not just better than Vermont, best on the east coast. The White Mountains are not only beautiful, but most peaks are above tree line and can be very dangerous at any time of the year. The views are spectacular.
One big thing you missed about New Hampshire is the beaches, very touristy and is a big advantage over a land locked state of Vermont
*Coughing
“MAINE”
Virginia... and West Virginia.
Yes, this is because of Fallout 76.
Yes, I want this done.
Vermont actually means green mountain in French
Chandler Kane Rlly? Wow, I didn't know that. Thank you for informing me and giving me something interesting.
Ver=green. /mont=Mtn ...Merci
Blanc Mont. // White Mtn.
Vert Montaigne
It actually means get off my lawn in French.
Yes, yes, Vermont is the one that's upside down, but we all hate Massholes.
How about "holes"like their 2 u.s. senators. Bah
I have a question is Vermont and new Hampshire expensive.
@@creativedream7395 Property tax in NH is a bitch and a half, but otherwise it's not bad.
Jonathan Stiles I will take as a sign that it’s expensive
Bruh you look way more upside down than us
Nice vid, pretty well thought out. I'm a professional economic developer for 20 years who was born and raised in Vermont and also worked in my industry - including starting my own business - for five years. Now I'm in coastal New Hampshire, one of the best places to live in the world, IMHO. The schools are much better in New Hampshire particularly in my region, as is the economy. It's so robust, in fact, that our largest problem - and it will be for the next decade - is workforce housing. Our industries are growing and it's incumbent for us to develop financially-feasible housing to accommodate them. The other big difference is the overwhelming disadvantage Vermont puts itself in regarding providing over-the-top social services that tends to attract (even from other states) those that take advantage of said services even when they don't need them. Vermont is too lenient in this regard and too stringent on overtaxing small business, the largest driver of any/all economies. And while it is true that New Hampshire has high property taxes to offset the lack of income and sales taxes (which helps businesses, of course), the money goes to the town's coffers. In VT, it goes primarily to the state and thus any "incentives" are doled out of Montpelier as the politicians see fit. In NH, everything is locally controlled, thus allowing communities to control their own destinies. It is THE biggest difference and why NH prospers while VT stagnates. All in all, a very good effort my friend. I don't know where you're from but if it's not from New England, you definitely did your homework. Kudos!
You nailed it. Where the money goes is a huge difference.
Visiting (vacationing) in Vermont and living here is two totally different things. People visit and comment (like yesterday) and say wow what a beautiful place and they're right but you can't make a living off of scenic views and hiking. I've lived here for 17 years from suburban Philadelphia. Careful, don't get caught up in your dreams about Vermont being some wonderland. If you come you better be educated and or have some real money in your pocket. Good jobs are hard to come by. There is barely any population growth. Graduates move away and don't come back. This video is accurate but don't fantasize about coming up here and living in some tree house. Just a warning that's all.
yeah im about to go to collage and i totally plan on moving the hell outta this place XD
Hello, I'm planning to move to Vermont from NYC. Employment is not a problem. Am I in for a "culture shock" when it comes to socializing? How friendly are Vermonters to Flatlanders? Any advice is welcome. Many thanks
@@maxwellperry1903 I'm stuck here. Pretty sure I'm gonna die in this state but I don't want to.
@@uberbabe585 People are usually pretty friendly. Racism isn't that bad but it's here for sure. Just watch out for the slow drivers I guess. Lot of them are afraid of yellow lights and tend to go below the speed limits at times.
@@uberbabe585 Vermont is full of racists & is boring as fuck! Populated by inbred assholes who are cold, cruel, and insensitive!
Strafford county, New Hampshire, beautiful place and perfect location, 1 hour from Boston, 45 minutes from the ocean, an hour from the mountains, and 20 minutes from Maine.
You had me untill the last one lol.
I’m also in Strafford county!
@@notslimjim9613 Dover, you?
Even as a native New Hampshire resident, it's pretty neat to see places I've actually been to shown (Manchester and the Merrimack Outlet Mall). Love my state!
Just to set the record straight. A Flatlander in NH is anyone who lives below the notch
Which notch Franconia Crawford Pinkham
That's like 90%
@@toolsinhand1911 look at a population map of nh lol. like 50% live near the mass border
Scott Ouellette franconia notch
Rick Hilton Lancaster here 😂
I love that they showed the sandbar from the lakes region for New Hampshire. It’s my favorite region in NH
Lake Winnisquam
I'm a white mountain boy.
While Chey is busy sippin mojitos and making sand castles at lake Winnipesaukee, I'm riding moose through the treacherous trails of Mt. Washington, while boiling my own piss just to stay alive.
@@MultiCrusher2 That's where I grew up, the Winnisquam post office was actually in Belmont!
as a maine native, i have to take new hampshire’s side.
U guys are a breed of your own I'll leave it at that 🤣🤣🤣
As a New Hampshire native, i have to thank you XD
They’re speaking literally
@@shaneshane8482 :O? who is?
@@learnart2gether - the author of the comment (: Maine is right beside New Hampshire, so they literally have to take New Hampshire’s side
That was great, spot on. I was raised in Claremont NH and now live in Springfield VT both are along the Connecticut River. I love both states ❣️
This was fun to watch. I am from CT but went to VT for college, lived within 30 miles of the river, 40 from the boarder. I often went to go visit my grandmother in the northern most town in NH. It would litterally be "over the river and through the woods to grandmothers house we go." No cellphone reception, but everything looked like a Bob Ross painting.
It seems to me that new hempshire is bigger in population is due to spill over from greater Boston.
That's a really good point. Manchester's just a one hour drive from Boston, after all.
And economically it is more diverse and modern than Vermont. Vermont is mainly an agricultural and tourist based economy, meaning there are less jobs and less people needed.
As a native to New Hampshire I can there are plenty of people from both Mass and Vermont who commute to New Hampshire. According to a survey down by NH around 30,000 people from Massachusetts works in Nh and 18,000 from Maine
It's because of that "spill over" that New Hampshire is now a blue state instead of the conservative bastion it used to be.
It's notable that the two southern/eastern counties in New Hampshire (Hillsborough and Rockingham Counties) combine for over half of New Hampshire's population. By themselves, those two counties have a higher population than the entire state of Vermont.
I spent part of my growing up years in NH, and my father is a native who still lives there. The term "flatlander" is also used in NH for anyone not from NH (or VT or ME). They also have some unpleasant names for people from MA too. My area there is not far from the Vermont border (Sullivan County, Newport), and I have been passing through back roads of both VT and NH for over 50 years, know both states very well.
One interesting thing, from going to school in both NH and NY, is when colonial history is taught, textbooks in NH all show VT as part of NH, and ones in NY show it as part of NY. So neither state really "recognizes" the disputed claim of the other. When VT became a state, part of Southwestern NH seceded from NH and joined the new state of VT, only to be put back in NH by President Washington who decided that the Connecticut River would be the border between the two for the length of the state. So for a few months, part of NH had become part of VT. The original Capitol of VT was Windsor which literally sits on the Connecticut river and has one of the longest covered bridges in North America connecting it to NH. .
Also if you were to draw an arc in NH of 60 miles from the ocean and erase that part of the state, the rest of NH is actually more rural than VT. Most of the population live within 60 miles of the ocean.
Not fond of the Claremont/Newport area. Kind of a shitty area.
Claremont sucks, but in Newport all the druggies keep to themselves. I'll ealk down South Main St. in the middle of the night without a worry.
Mr. Beat: My wife and I grew up in the Boston area in the 1960's and had the same reaction to your video. WE LOVE NEW HAMPSHIRE!!❤️️ Despite your analysis, I fondly remember New Hampshire as a staunchly Republican state. Yes, Massachusetts residents have moved up there and turned the State purple. But I love the state motto: "Live free or die!" There are many more great vacation attractions in New Hampshire: The Flume, Indian Head Mountain, Mount Washington, Franconia Notch with the Cannon Mountain Arial Tramway, the Basin, the Kancamangus Highway, Lake Winnipesaukee, Jackson, NH with one of the few covered bridges, and Portsmouth, NH. As I used to say as a math major when I proved a Theorem: "QED!"
I'm a Vermont resident who visits NH probably 75 times per year. I can honestly say that I don't consider a NH resident an out of stater not do I feel like one when I'm in NH.
Well you are
@proud American nh all the way we also have white pines/
After moving to NH and travelling to the Brattleboro area for work....I gotta say I MUCH prefer New Hampshire.
Travel to northern Vermont or the Burlonton area. It'll change your mind!
that's because Brattleboro literally sucks lol trust me I know
Yeah Brattleboro is the worst... In fact a lot of the "bigger" places in southern VT are trash. Brattleboro, Rutland, White River, etc
Nicholas Howe yeah southern VT just kinda sucks imo.
Andy Tonge Brat kinda sucks but the surrounding towns are super nice. Any big city in vt sucks but also can’t think of an ice nh town for the life of me
I live in California but would love to live in New Hampshire
Danny Fenty we moved to NH 14yrs ago from CA and have never looked back! We love it here!
We'd love to see u come by! :) nh is a very lovely place
If you come to our great state, do not turn it into a cess pool of human shit and high taxes like y'all did in California. In New Hampshire, we are free.
I live in New Hampshire and would like to move to California
JOIN US. JOIN US.
“Hey I know, what about living somewhere lovely along the Connecticut river!?” *Inserts picture of Massachusetts Sugarloaf Mountain*
I've lived in Tamworth NH most of my life. I can agree with alot of what you have to say. Good comparison
How can you hand the "more rugged terrain" distinction to Vermont? NH has 48 peaks over 4000 feet compared to VT's 5.
Yeah NH is rugged AF as soon as you go above the lakes region. The white mountains are nuts
Agreed. Especially NH's White Mtns....much more rugged than the Greens we have in VT.
@Ammon Herrera: Now you're the one making a mountain out of a molehill.
@Ammon Herrera
No one wants to live in your shitty desert.
They can't wait to flee.
@@lockandloadlikehell Desert? Could be Alaska
I was literally yelling YES YES YES YES YES!!!!!!!! when I saw that you made another state comparison video. Thank you so much for making my day Mr. Beat!
haha that's so awesome. Well glad you like the series. Guess I need to make more of them!
My fellow New Englanders. Let us not fight amongst ourselves. Our six states should stand united against New York, New Jersey and the rest of the country! Be brave, comrades!
Forget Mass, RI, and CT
New York, NJ, Pennsylvania, Maryland & Delaware should be considered part of New England in the modern day. The entire northeast should be called New England.
@@ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty it is clear you aren’t a part of New England, because literally every New Englander that doesn’t like in Mass or CT hates all the other states and their flatlanders.
@@ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty Hey buddy, you're lucky we keep Connecticut in the club. We sure as hell aren't adding anymore Yankee fans to New England.
As an NH native this vid made me proud to be from a place that isnt completely fucked like commiefornia. The liberties you can enjoy up north is truly a spectacle in of itself not to mention national parks, food, landmarks, the history as well such an amazing place.
too bad I'm in florida now :/
You’re lucky. You have Ron Desantis
I literally live on the Connecticut River and see Vermont every morning. I commute through Vermont every day and I have to say, I LOVE New Hampshire. Haha
New Hampshire 💪
Have you lived in either?
Mr. Beat haha yes. Proud resident of NH
NH bros!!
Sam Call YA!!
Mr. Beat I live in NH
People are not going to believe this but I got off the ferry in Vt. from NY and walked to Winoosky. Reminded me of a Rockwell painting. Ive never seen countryside so beautiful. The houses,roads,neighborhoods,unbelievable.
Yap,, been there..
New Hampshire is the freeest place in the world. You are not even required to close your seatbelts in the car.
I live in New Hampshire. Iv'e spent years hunting and hiking. A blessing and a curse is our weather. In the summer in can into the 90's but in the winter we can get a foot of snow in a day. Living on the VT NH border as well as near Mass dialogue differences are common. My opinion; out of stater's should stop hunting our deer, it hurts the population.
"stop hunting our deer"... 1) state parks belong to the entire U.S as they're funded by every American. 2) you run contrary to what the game oversight committees say and plan for... deer populations are decently managed but there is a general over abundance of deer that have little natural predators... they're encouraging larger cull numbers - you're obviously not a hunter and you obviously know nothing about Vermont deer management objectives.
I live in Washington New Hampshire the highest town center in state we've had snow on Mother's Day for the last 2 years
I used to live in Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada (just north of the border) and we would sometimes go skiing in Jay Peak. Always a fun experience, very welcoming people. Some employees would even answer us in french! Stowe and Killington were also very nice ski resorts. We are jealous of your ski mountains.
From the farthest SE tip of NH to the farthest NW tip of Vermont is 3 hrs and 45 min. For me to travel that same line in Texas corner to corner is 14 hours with no stops. I forget sometimes how dinky some states are.
I like seeing places I've been when you talk about NH. I saw 2 places where I have stood: the bell in Concord across from the capitol building and that gazebo thing in Hampton.
Met a friend from NH. The most amazing person ever. I’m from California my thoughts to NH.
I've lived in NH for my entire life, It's super nice if a bit quiet. Moving to Mass. for college this fall, I'll miss NH but at least I'll still be close.
Well glad you caught the video! Yeah, another advantage of NH is that it is closer to Boston, which is nice because it's A LOT cheaper.
Very true, my bf travels to Andover ma, we live outside manchester
I don't know if it's still the case, but for many many years it was cheaper for a resident of New Hampshire to come to Massachusetts and pay out of state tuition rates at the University of Massachusetts, than it was to go to the University of New Hampshire and pay in-state tuition rates. The state is so very stingy, they terribly underfund their schools and universities, and have some of the highest tuition costs in the country.
NHchicky : For work or school?
That is still the case. Actually, I believe that the University of New Hampshire has the highest in-state tuition in the USA, currently.
While in NH you could mention the Atlantic Ocean, lighthouses, sailing, boating, lobstering, tuna fishing, beaches, Isles of Shoals and coastal towns of Portsmouth, Rye, New Castle and North Hampton. The handsome colonial architecture and gardens not to be missed.
this is the first time someone has ever brought up north hampton on the internet, very under rated town.
Having been to both states, there are so many good things about each. The states both remind me of pizza slices, and Vermont is sort of like an upside down pizza while New Hampshire is like a right-side up one. It's like a Pizza State Yin-Yang type of thing. I love it
Politically speaking VT began shifting to the left in 1950s. It had always had liberals within the GOP but it also had consevatives though more of the old right variety. The decline in power of the proctor family and the influx of New Yorkers ended the viability of such conservatives and gave the democrats life in the state for the first time in 100 years. The Republicans recovered but slowly declined losing a Senate seat to Pat Leahy in 1974, the Governorship several times the House seat in 1990 and the Presidential election in 1992. With the state moving left and the gop right they lost their last Senate seat in 2001 when jeffords went indy. and then retired opening the door for Sanders. In 2008 it became the most Democratic state in the country. The state actually trended towards the GOP in 2016 bc Hillary was a bad fit for the state and Trumps trade message but she still got 56%.
+Susie Francy I would say it started leaning left in the 60s via progressive Republicans but as polarization increased it became Dem leaning in the late 1980s masked of course by the gop landslides and safe D by 2000.
+David As and example Republican Winston Prouty was more leftwing the many of todays Dem Senators.
This is almost all good except for the last sentence. There was no GOP trend in 2016. Trump did worse than either Romney in 2012 or McCain 2008. Clinton did underperform though, in no small part because more than 5% of voters wrote in Bernie. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_Vermont,_2008
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_Vermont,_2012
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_Vermont,_2016
@ David... A mostly accurate assessment btw, I would say VT began to turn the corner with respect to the " old school " conservatives with the advent of the hippy movement in the early part of the 60's commonly known as " granola crunchers and/or tree huggers ". Surprisingly, many of them were educated & entered local & state politics as well as their respective offspring. The real slide did indeed start in the earlier part of the 70's. From the 1980's on, the GOP in VT has become a thing of the past. We have the longest serving Senator in Patrick Leahy, ( term limits anyone? ) A socialist mayor of Burlington that is now a Senator. We have a current Republican governor in Democrat sheep's clothing. Both houses of VT under complete control by the Democratic Party incl. the LT Gov. VT is a Tax & Spend state. This is the Liberal Democratic Party philosophy running rampant in Vermont currently, sadly... :-(
+William Farr The caveat here though and the reason I placed it somewhat earlier is because the successful Reublicans post 1958, were either liberal or far,left like Prouty. Prior to that there were some conservative voices. As for democrat in sheeps clothing, there is an article I recently read that talked about how vt GOP spent like drunken socialists during the 30s.
Not my first choice but as a resident of Manchester NH I can confirm the reasonable rent
🤣🙌
A guy from my state(Ohio) said he simply bought a plane ticket and packed his bags. Within 24 hours of landing, he had a job, a roof over his head, and a feasible budget. Now that may be just one more example of classic buckeye ingenuity, but I suspect it also has to do with New Hampshire being an awesome and livable state.
@@dh7164 dont tempt me with a good time.
Manchester is 50 miles from Boston. Housing is much less than eastern Massachusetts. Like half the cost. No income or sales tax.
@@dh7164 so there are good payed jobs and good universities and overall safety? Which town exactly?
Living in New Hampshire, I’m happy this video had 603k views when I watched
Mr. Beat...you are my Hero! Number One TH-camr All-time! No gimmicks, no gamers, no kids! All FACTS!
The 231mph on Mt Washington, was the last number recorded before the weather station shack and its large chains holding it down, blew away...
Also coldest temperature on Earth was there.
If we’re going the route of states with similar shapes and culture that lean to the left, why not try states with similar shapes and culture that lean to the right? Such as...
North Dakota and South Dakota
Alabama and Mississippi
Kansas and Nebraska
I like all three of those. Since I live in Kansas, though, I have a hard time choosing if I'd compare my state to Nebraska or Missouri. There's so much violent history between Kansas and Missouri.
Wyoming and Colorado!
I don't know if 'left' or 'right' really works in the traditional sense in either place, Rural New England ( and both states have very rural cultures ) is very different from the rest of the country in that every town is run by direct democracy, and has been for centuries. All the business of a town is debated and voted on by all of the participating electorate in a big room on a cold night in March. Everyone who wants to talk does, and every expenditure is voted on. Everyone knows Roberts Rules of Order. Anyone can propose legislation from the floor. Party doesn't really enter into it as much as it does in larger states. It makes for a very practical and co operative political culture.
TASproductions at least in new Hampshire case, there is a vast majority of Republicans and libertarians moving here, that's why new hampshire was a purple state in 2016, and was only a few hundred vote difference between the candidates
A few others
Kentucky vs Tennessee
California vs Texas
Carolinas
Wyoming vs Colorado
Louisiana vs Arkansas
Pennsylvania vs New York
thanx for video.. Vt has Lake Champlain which is very large so it is like an ocean. Biggest differences I see. Vermont is slightly colder and more snow due to the lake. Burlington (a beautiful city) and vicinity is 1.5 hrs+ to Montreal, Canada a beautiful city and Country. NH has access to Boston 1+ hrs depends on where you are.. Both VT and NH are beautiful with the New England style of living.. NH has a few more small cities from Concord on south.
Great video and as someone born and raised in north Conway, NH, it's great to see the State I still very much love and miss get so much love and to see our sister state Vermont share that spotlight.. goal is to retire in one of the two.. BOTH are very much a small slice of heaven, despite blizzards and the annual nor'easter
I love going to North Conway and going on the kancamagus highway
North Dakota vs South Dakota and Germany vs Austria.
Surprisingly the first time I got the Germany vs. Austria suggestion.
just moved to Manchester from Missouri, fiancé is from MA and he got a job up here. We were doing long distance this last year and are finally living together up here. I love New England so much. So nice knowing i’m not in the area for like a week or two, that I get to fall asleep with him everyday in such a dope area. I love this “summer” weather!😍 Not missing Joplin/KC area at all!
Living my dream life dude! I can't wait to move from KC to Manchester.
Both states share, in their northern areas, severe winters. Coastal NH is much warmer. When I was starting out NH had jobs. VT did not. So I live in NH and play in Vermont and Maine.
Newhampshire is really just a mix of everything that surrounds it. Including the unique accents.
*LIVE FREE OR DIE*
We call them Flatlanders in NH too. At least the people I knew always did. Also NH is the most heavily forested state in the nation with the most trees per capeta
No way, has to be Maine.
You should have compared the University of Vermont to the University of New Hampshire. They are both expensive state universities but UNH is generally rated higher and is the safest in the country.
Iam from India. I like peaceful and beautiful Vermont. I visited three times this state. The people are honest.