I love this color, waiting for this bike to arrive in South Africa so that I can take her for a demo ride. Will then decide whether to sell my 2021 dl650xt which has a great engine, hopefully this new parallel doesn't disappoint.
This a true midweight adv bike, which is ready for any road challenge! For me personally this bike it's the best on midweight segment, in terms of versatilety, reliability and price! Well done Suzuki 👍
Brilliant review, really looking forward to test riding this bike, one big plus for me on these is you no longer have to remove the tank to change the air filter like you had to on the 650's.
I tested and bought the same color scheme as yours. It replaced my beloved 2012 650 which I loved. That almost neon yellow leading edge is a stroke of genius Suzuki because people see that especially width these tiny lights. Power , braking , handling, good job Suzuki
Why they haven't provided cruise control will remain a total mystery to me. Sweet jeebus, even as an optional upgrade it would suffice! This bike is simply a fantastic tourer.
They haven't put CC on because most people don't want it and are not willing to pay for something they ain't gonna use, also, cannot be safely used when it's wet. Should be an option though as some people seem to want it.
You don't need cruise controls... We forgot to ride with all this electronic...I have just owned 2024 DE and I'm in love with it ❤!! Greetings from Creta greece 🇬🇷!
I've just revisited this road test to remind myself of your take on the 800 de as I've just ordered one. After having road tested the 800 four times I made the ,admittedly difficult, decision to trade my 1050xt in for the 800. It is such a good bike and I don't think it will leave me feeling short changed against the 1050xt.
One other comment. I just got a 1050XT V Strom mainly because of cruise control. 90 percent or more of these bikes are for touring and eating miles. If the 800 had cruise control, it would have been a very difficult choice between the two. I also have to agree with Jane G below. That front wheel needs to be tubeless. The 800 is in the sweet spot for power as far as I'm concerned. Keep up the great work!
@@thebingleywheelerisagree. I like tubes, and cruise control is senseless. Motorcycles are not places to fall asleep, and if you want cruise control, it's a $25 add on. Tubeless won't fix a damaged rim. Tubeless is for street bikes.
love my 800de for the twisty roads of western north carolina and thousands of miles of forest service dirt roads. heres my opinion.....if the 800de had cruise, suzuki would have trouble selling the 1050. i prefer tubes, i can fix a flat on the trail, i cant fix a bent or cracked tubeless rim trailside, and the places i go solo are typically out of cell service area.
@wayfarer_ofthe_wilderness I was up on the Parkway today. Hopefully this weather (heat) will finally break this week. I actually test rode the 800 and it is a fine machine. I just wish they had gone with tubeless spoke wheels. I ended up buying another 1050 for that reason and the insane deletion of cruise control. It would have been so simple to have done. For my wife and my type of travel the cruise control was an absolute must. If those items had been available you would have seen us on 800. Like I said perfect machine but for us it just didn't check all the boxes. Good riding
I just moved to Mexico and looking for a bike to explore the many trails here as well as commuting. I been looking at the 800DE as well as some others like the 890 Adventure S, The Tiger 900 Rally Pro and some others. I find the Suzuki 800DE to probably be the top contender. Things that I dont like very much is the missing cruise control, missing center stand, that crash bars are optional, the too small screen and that one has to get off and use tools to adjust it, and lastly the missing after market support. I dont know, but looking at other Suzuki bikes, they also not have a great deal of aftermarket support. To your question if there are after market center stands I can confirm there actually are several and in different price range as well. That the bike is missing one is not a big deal as one can get one for about value of US$200 which is not too much money. When it comes to height of the bike, I an quite short, not that the height matter so much, but the inseam does. I am 178cm and have a poor inseam of only 28". Yes, I ca sit on the 800DE on my toes but its handleable,, it feels about the same as a KTM 890 Adventure S, or Norden 901 and they are lower. Thank you for a good video
Good morning Dave. Through the magic of editing you had me believe that it's always sunny in Yorkshire and bike dealers open at 6 in the morning. Love the bike and a great review. Safe riding, Stephen.
Sunshine and lovely Yorkshire scenery - what more could you wish for, that's a bit tall for me at 5'8" but I do fancy an 8S if and when I can afford one, more than enough for me in my late 50's and nice and quiet to boot. Oh and well done on the 3K and thank you as always for keeping me informed and entertained.
I tried it this Monday. The seat is not to my liking. Feels less comfortable. Other than that, the engine is an absolute gem. It is killing the competition easily. Liked the handling and that 21 wheel didn’t feel less good than a 19 size on the twisties. Brakes works fine, but imagine Suzuki did radial brakes on it and added that missing cruise control. It would be the top dog
Cruise I agree yes but radially mounted callipers are often a stylised option rather than functional…..don’t think it would make a difference to braking performance on this bike
I have about 4500 miles on mine now. Road from San Diego to Grand Canyon to Williams Az before going on to flat boring west Texas. Amazing the smooth ride when I wasn't fighting cross winds. A friend said Bill Williams Mountain would be great to go up but his wife said you need a 4WD vehicle. Well, I forgot the name of the mountain and went up it. Over 9k feet and over 5 miles winding up. Got up to the top, two people there said they couldn't believe I attempted it. Then I know that was the mountain his wife warned about. The last mile up was insane. I had side cases and a big bag on the back. Had to go down so they let me put my stuff in their truck. For some reason, this has an off road screen with on road tires wth? Yes, I had the stock tires and got to the bottom without a problem but with some frayed nerves. I was first concerned about the top heavy weight compared to my 650 wee strom. Got the OEM Turing screen, mirror extensions and spacers. Notice you have the bars tilted back some. Would that help the wind buffeting? I have the screen in the top position with an extension piece to add about 4 inches. I'm 6' tall. When I bend down a bit, there much less buffeting.
Okay Suzuki and all you manufacturers that can't seem to figure it out; Cruise control, Quick shifter, and Tubeless spoke wheels need to at least be an option on all Adventure bikes. Bolt on subframe, adjustable suspension, and a dedicated off-road mode with all ABS and TC off button should be standard. I'm available for consulting on Saturdays. You bring the beer.
I have considered this as a new bike, but compared to a 890KTM its heavy and down on power. This is not a show sopper. The lack of cruise control is. The KTM is more expensive. If the DE had cruise i would have seriously consided it
Nice review.. probably all the bike a would be adventure needs, just like the Land Rovers, very few wonder of the tar..probably more reliable than big Orange or BMW..👍🏴
This or a 24 KTM 790 ADV for Commuting and touring use? KTM has cruise and an IMU. 4 year warranty with KTM service extension. Suzuki doesn’t need a warranty…I have a tough choice to make.
Definitely prefer the look over the Tuareg 660. Not keen on the weight increase though. How did you find the reported engine vibes that some reviewers complained about?
I went to a demo a week ago in Brea Ca. Only had a 8S available to ride. Had a 800DE and was only on display. Saying it was only one in US and was euro spec. So only display. But it did have the key in it. So I started it. Made some heads turn. But it did sound good. Gave it a double stacks and shut it off. But I like many if cruise control and tube my decision would be easy. But now I have to wait and see if a tenure 900 comes out.
Ya, test road one the other day, sleeper......ADV midsize market...beware....this bike is smooth, powerful, tight, and feels just right.....ready to add one to my stable....T7 and a DRZE...
Road surface top dressing is a very dangerous thing. When it thunderstorms etc it can wash it into a pile. I had this round bend where the front wheel of my motorcycle tucked under as the pile of gravel was just on the apex of a bend. I was luckily doing only 25 mph but it was an instant tuck-under.
Enjoyed the review. I see you’ve also ridden the 1050. My previous bike was the 1000 ( which has the same engine). I would like to know how you feel the two differ. As a footnote. I recently watched your mate TMF 🤣 doing a review of a biker cafe. In Yorkshire we have a plethora of biker cafes - such as Squires, The Motorist, NY500, Whitby, Brid, Kirkby Lonsdale, Hawes, to name but a few. Have you considered doing similar???
Hi Mike I preferred the 800 largely because of looks and price and indeed comfort. I did do a review of the How Stean Gorge cafe which is a great place..... I may do others..... Where is the motorist?
Not a bad un BW but the next one is the one I am looking forward to as the adventures don't do a lot for me but I can appreciate that for some they are the business. I am surprised however that Suzuki have come in at a hefty price tag as usually they are quite competitive . Nice one as ever 👌👍
Suzuki have a great new engine to take forward the V Strom legacy. But, for me, the 21" front wheel and tubed tyres would be a deal breaker. Most UK riders won't ever need their off road capability....but if Suzuki brought out a more road-focused 19" tubeless version, I'd grab it straight away. I rode the 8S back to back with a Hornet - for me, their was no competition, the Suzuki was the better bike. It'll be interesting to see how the 800DE sells against the new Transalp. (PS Jane's the wife!)
I rode it off-road for the (French) Greenwich South last weekend, and it's very balanced and seems much lighter than it's weight. The dealer just add to fit knobby tires on top of the already installed crash-bars, and it went on the tracks like a charm. I'm saying this after 75000+ km on an Africa Twin 1000, including an off-road trip to Morocco last fall: this bike will be my next bike!
nice, i'm almost your exact dimensions. 20 lbs heavier - but you liked the riding position? i probably will too then. Curious - what octane fuel was it burning in this test? at 12+ compression i know Suzuki recommends the highest you can find
Great review mucker after a demo on the v strom what a great bike but just today had a demo from chorley yamaha the tracer 9 gt knocks the v strom out the park.not saying the v strom is a bad bike but yammie 9 gt wins it for me
Noooooo! Not another 'bike with a beak'!! (😄😄 Just kidding.) Not my cup of tea but in no doubt whatsoever this machine, together with Honda's new Transalp will sell like hot cakes and give their owners many miles and years of pleasure. Suzuki certainly appear to have got this engine right from the go. Of those reviews I've seen of the CB750 and GSXS-8, Suzuki's motor edges the Honda's in real world usability, even though it's not as powerful. I think Suzuki have got a winner here. Excellent, comprehensive review as ever. 👍
Thanks for a great review.. you didn’t mention whether that seat height is adjustable?? I’m not as tall as you so might struggle with 855mm… shame as it sounds good.
You’ve got the perfect job, playing on lots of different bikes. Now that you are finding that you like lots of different ones are you tempted away from the Enfield brand ?
Now that’s a good question….as it stands I love what my interceptor and Classic 350 give me in terms of the nostalgic ride and as you well know the Pan is a benchmark tourer…that VStrom fit like a glove in a way that the others I’ve so far tested don’t. But h btw….I’ve taken the cow bars off the Classic!
Man I thought my old Vstrom was ugly. Did they try and make it this ugly? It's just incredible! The 1050s look 99% better than these. However I never bought my other vstrom because of how it looked. I bought it for the all round function. I will probably end up buying this bike and a complete vinyl wrap so I don't vomit every time I see it. Function wise I think Suzuki has done very well and have been able to check many of the boxes that I require.
@@thebingleywheeler Yes of course. Perhaps 2025 they will have a better color scheme. It isn't the shape of the bike that I dislike so much. It's the colors. To me they can't get much worse. But I would also really like to have cruise as an option. I have never had it but find myself always wanting it. Especially when riding alone. Hard to use of course with multiple riders I would assume.
This is thing is only middle weight by engine size only every thing else classifies it a heavy weight especially the actual weight of the bike...the weight is a deal breaker for me.. the Africa twin is lighter
That would be a cracker of a bike. I wish I were 6’ and a 33” inseam many things would be more manageable than for my 5’8” 30.5” inseam. Yes, I’ll add that .5 in there, 😂
Superlative scenery! 100% w/ your thoughts regarding criminally irresponsible council' spreading excess gravel. They do it here in Leicestershire too. Same deal w/ it being in patches also. Municipal vandalism is what it is & it's amazing these otherwise safety zealots cut down conker trees to stop kids playing a 'dangerous game', endlessly introduce infantile regs & restrictions for our own good - then lay out death traps such as these. Jail should be on for these dangerous clowns!! 🤡
Spot on Dave.why they don’t just use the smooth tarmac used on bigger roads (and which lasts longer) I’ll never know…..unless they have other motives of course
@@thebingleywheeler "other motives" ~ exactly so! Bit like the plague of phantom roadworks, whereby all routes in & out of my town & surrounding environs have signage & traffic lights causing jams. And at each & all these places, no workers, no equipment, no obvious failures in surface, nor any sign of ANYTHING being or been done. It's almost like the zealots are trying to suck any remaining enjoyment from motoring in order to curb/ deter journeys. Hmmmm 🤔 funny that.......
Heavy...poor performance specs...heavy....no cruise? really. please...these will definitely be not flying off any show rooms anytime soon. An expensive KLR but better, thats about it.
@@thebingleywheeler Do you know for a fact that Aprilia Tuareg 660 is unreliable? I am inclined to believe that it is a reliable motorcycle but i am ready to be educated.
A 1/2 baked bike, for unclear use, built on stingines and naivity of the customers. No standard windshield ( the little crap it comes with - doesn't qualify...). No Cruise Control ( on a TRAVELING bike ! ) ... No tubeless wheels..... Looks = 🤮🤮🤮..... High price ( for what you get ).
I've got one for 2 weeks now,and I confirm what you describe:superb handling,everything is smooth,multi function bike;
great review!!
Thank you Alain yes I loved the bike and want one
Have you noticed any particularly bad vibrations especially at 5500RPM and up?
I love this color, waiting for this bike to arrive in South Africa so that I can take her for a demo ride. Will then decide whether to sell my 2021 dl650xt which has a great engine, hopefully this new parallel doesn't disappoint.
No nothing like that
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Not as bad as the DL 650
This a true midweight adv bike, which is ready for any road challenge!
For me personally this bike it's the best on midweight segment, in terms of versatilety, reliability and price!
Well done Suzuki 👍
Yes I completely agree…a fantastic bike
Mine's a 2012 650 DL , which is in it's 7th year of my ownership .......A brilliant no fuss , no drama do it all bike 👍👍👍
Superb bike Mike no doubt
Brilliant review, really looking forward to test riding this bike, one big plus for me on these is you no longer have to remove the tank to change the air filter like you had to on the 650's.
Cheers thank you yes a fantastic bike
I tested and bought the same color scheme as yours. It replaced my beloved 2012 650 which I loved. That almost neon yellow leading edge is a stroke of genius Suzuki because people see that especially width these tiny lights. Power , braking , handling, good job Suzuki
Why they haven't provided cruise control will remain a total mystery to me. Sweet jeebus, even as an optional upgrade it would suffice! This bike is simply a fantastic tourer.
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They haven't put CC on because most people don't want it and are not willing to pay for something they ain't gonna use, also, cannot be safely used when it's wet. Should be an option though as some people seem to want it.
You don't need cruise controls... We forgot to ride with all this electronic...I have just owned 2024 DE and I'm in love with it ❤!! Greetings from Creta greece 🇬🇷!
Veridian cruise is taking orders for cruise control on the v strom 800 de. $309 (US)
I've just revisited this road test to remind myself of your take on the 800 de as I've just ordered one. After having road tested the 800 four times I made the ,admittedly difficult, decision to trade my 1050xt in for the 800. It is such a good bike and I don't think it will leave me feeling short changed against the 1050xt.
I’m sure you’ll love it I’m very tempted myself
I own a 2007 gs , I have test ride the t7 the Transalp and then the vstrom and found the vstrom was the comfiest and most fun at the same time 👍🏻
Now you know why I had one mate. A truly no nonsense comfy steed. Great review.
Cheers my friend….if I could only have 1 bike….
Hey man. Awesome place, I've been there. Great bike , I'm looking to buy one as well. Thanks for the video and congrats on your subs.
Thank you very much appreciated 😎👍🏻
Great review.All I can say after a test ride is that one of these will be my next bike.A fun bike with a brilliant all round feel about it.Cheers
Absolutely a great all round bike 👍🏻
One other comment. I just got a 1050XT V Strom mainly because of cruise control. 90 percent or more of these bikes are for touring and eating miles. If the 800 had cruise control, it would have been a very difficult choice between the two. I also have to agree with Jane G below. That front wheel needs to be tubeless. The 800 is in the sweet spot for power as far as I'm concerned. Keep up the great work!
Cheers Sam…..yes I agree re the cruise and tubeless
@@thebingleywheelerisagree. I like tubes, and cruise control is senseless. Motorcycles are not places to fall asleep, and if you want cruise control, it's a $25 add on. Tubeless won't fix a damaged rim. Tubeless is for street bikes.
love my 800de for the twisty roads of western north carolina and thousands of miles of forest service dirt roads. heres my opinion.....if the 800de had cruise, suzuki would have trouble selling the 1050. i prefer tubes, i can fix a flat on the trail, i cant fix a bent or cracked tubeless rim trailside, and the places i go solo are typically out of cell service area.
@wayfarer_ofthe_wilderness I was up on the Parkway today. Hopefully this weather (heat) will finally break this week. I actually test rode the 800 and it is a fine machine. I just wish they had gone with tubeless spoke wheels. I ended up buying another 1050 for that reason and the insane deletion of cruise control. It would have been so simple to have done. For my wife and my type of travel the cruise control was an absolute must. If those items had been available you would have seen us on 800. Like I said perfect machine but for us it just didn't check all the boxes. Good riding
@@samtuck6400 a throttle lock costs $40.
Nice one TBW, Suzuki appear to be on to a winner here, all the reviews i've seen on the tube have been extremely positive...
Cheers Henry I’d have one tomorrow
@@thebingleywheeler me too
Its a cracker
I just moved to Mexico and looking for a bike to explore the many trails here as well as commuting. I been looking at the 800DE as well as some others like the 890 Adventure S, The Tiger 900 Rally Pro and some others. I find the Suzuki 800DE to probably be the top contender.
Things that I dont like very much is the missing cruise control, missing center stand, that crash bars are optional, the too small screen and that one has to get off and use tools to adjust it, and lastly the missing after market support. I dont know, but looking at other Suzuki bikes, they also not have a great deal of aftermarket support.
To your question if there are after market center stands I can confirm there actually are several and in different price range as well. That the bike is missing one is not a big deal as one can get one for about value of US$200 which is not too much money.
When it comes to height of the bike, I an quite short, not that the height matter so much, but the inseam does. I am 178cm and have a poor inseam of only 28". Yes, I ca sit on the 800DE on my toes but its handleable,, it feels about the same as a KTM 890 Adventure S, or Norden 901 and they are lower.
Thank you for a good video
The KLR that everyone desired in 2022, it seems 😊
Good morning Dave. Through the magic of editing you had me believe that it's always sunny in Yorkshire and bike dealers open at 6 in the morning. Love the bike and a great review. Safe riding, Stephen.
Cheers Stephen unusually we’ve had days of sun and more to come! 😎
Thank You! It has been a pleasure watching your channel. Agreed speed takes a back seat as we get older.
Amen Sam 👍🏻
Sunshine and lovely Yorkshire scenery - what more could you wish for, that's a bit tall for me at 5'8" but I do fancy an 8S if and when I can afford one, more than enough for me in my late 50's and nice and quiet to boot. Oh and well done on the 3K and thank you as always for keeping me informed and entertained.
Cheers buddy much appreciated indeed….I’m taking out the the 8s next week 👍🏻
I tried it this Monday. The seat is not to my liking. Feels less comfortable. Other than that, the engine is an absolute gem. It is killing the competition easily. Liked the handling and that 21 wheel didn’t feel less good than a 19 size on the twisties. Brakes works fine, but imagine Suzuki did radial brakes on it and added that missing cruise control. It would be the top dog
Cruise I agree yes but radially mounted callipers are often a stylised option rather than functional…..don’t think it would make a difference to braking performance on this bike
@@thebingleywheeler was thinking of the brilliant brake’s on my V-Strom 1000, so for road use yes they are way better
I have about 4500 miles on mine now. Road from San Diego to Grand Canyon to Williams Az before going on to flat boring west Texas. Amazing the smooth ride when I wasn't fighting cross winds. A friend said Bill Williams Mountain would be great to go up but his wife said you need a 4WD vehicle. Well, I forgot the name of the mountain and went up it. Over 9k feet and over 5 miles winding up. Got up to the top, two people there said they couldn't believe I attempted it. Then I know that was the mountain his wife warned about. The last mile up was insane. I had side cases and a big bag on the back. Had to go down so they let me put my stuff in their truck. For some reason, this has an off road screen with on road tires wth? Yes, I had the stock tires and got to the bottom without a problem but with some frayed nerves. I was first concerned about the top heavy weight compared to my 650 wee strom.
Got the OEM Turing screen, mirror extensions and spacers. Notice you have the bars tilted back some. Would that help the wind buffeting? I have the screen in the top position with an extension piece to add about 4 inches. I'm 6' tall. When I bend down a bit, there much less buffeting.
Larry that sounds like an epic hill climb glad you got down safe. I’m still tempted to buy one of these they’re great all round bikes
Okay Suzuki and all you manufacturers that can't seem to figure it out; Cruise control, Quick shifter, and Tubeless spoke wheels need to at least be an option on all Adventure bikes. Bolt on subframe, adjustable suspension, and a dedicated off-road mode with all ABS and TC off button should be standard. I'm available for consulting on Saturdays. You bring the beer.
I have considered this as a new bike, but compared to a 890KTM its heavy and down on power. This is not a show sopper. The lack of cruise control is. The KTM is more expensive. If the DE had cruise i would have seriously consided it
Great review BW, I like the look of that Suzy
Thank you Peter very much appreciate your comments
If the 800DE came out before I got my 1050XT, I probably would have gotten one.
It is a marvellous bike😊 great review 😊 I am with you all the way 😊
Cheers buddy I saw your excellent review too 👍🏻
Wouldnt be surprised if they release a version with cruise control in the very near future
Nice review.. probably all the bike a would be adventure needs, just like the Land Rovers, very few wonder of the tar..probably more reliable than big Orange or BMW..👍🏴
Certainly more reliable than BMW or KTM 😀
@@thebingleywheeler
😂😂😆😆😆😆😆👌
This or a 24 KTM 790 ADV for Commuting and touring use? KTM has cruise and an IMU. 4 year warranty with KTM service extension. Suzuki doesn’t need a warranty…I have a tough choice to make.
Great review & greetings from Las Vegas! I hope you get your hands on a Transalp 750 for comparison~
So do I buddy and thank you 🙏
Definitely prefer the look over the Tuareg 660. Not keen on the weight increase though. How did you find the reported engine vibes that some reviewers complained about?
For me, I don't like being at 5500 rpm due to the vibration. Stayed under or over. Bit, I'm spoiled by my Toyota Camry 2020. 😂
I went to a demo a week ago in Brea Ca. Only had a 8S available to ride. Had a 800DE and was only on display. Saying it was only one in US and was euro spec. So only display. But it did have the key in it. So I started it. Made some heads turn. But it did sound good. Gave it a double stacks and shut it off. But I like many if cruise control and tube my decision would be easy. But now I have to wait and see if a tenure 900 comes out.
A Tenere 900 would be a great bike 👍
Ya, test road one the other day, sleeper......ADV midsize market...beware....this bike is smooth, powerful, tight, and feels just right.....ready to add one to my stable....T7 and a DRZE...
Great review as always, unfortunately being a short arse the Himalayan is about as tall as I am happy to go - good looking machine though
Thank you grin much appreciated 😎👍🏻
Road surface top dressing is a very dangerous thing. When it thunderstorms etc it can wash it into a pile. I had this round bend where the front wheel of my motorcycle tucked under as the pile of gravel was just on the apex of a bend. I was luckily doing only 25 mph but it was an instant tuck-under.
I couldn’t even safely do 20 mph on that road
Suzuki 1050DE has cruise control-with same screen and drive-by-wire; i suspect the cruise control wiring/firmware already setup for next model
Good points 👍🏻
needs tubeless tires , cruise control
Toop review!
I fell the same riding my new V Strom 800
Voodoo bike !👍👏🍀🍾
Greetings from South Tyrol in the alps!
Welcome my friend and thank you 🙏
Enjoyed the review. I see you’ve also ridden the 1050. My previous bike was the 1000 ( which has the same engine). I would like to know how you feel the two differ.
As a footnote. I recently watched your mate TMF 🤣 doing a review of a biker cafe. In Yorkshire we have a plethora of biker cafes - such as Squires, The Motorist, NY500, Whitby, Brid, Kirkby Lonsdale, Hawes, to name but a few.
Have you considered doing similar???
Hi Mike I preferred the 800 largely because of looks and price and indeed comfort. I did do a review of the How Stean Gorge cafe which is a great place..... I may do others..... Where is the motorist?
Not a bad un BW but the next one is the one I am looking forward to as the adventures don't do a lot for me but I can appreciate that for some they are the business. I am surprised however that Suzuki have come in at a hefty price tag as usually they are quite competitive . Nice one as ever 👌👍
Thank you yes a bit pricey but way cheaper than Norden 901 Expedition….GSX8S review Thursday abw 😎👍🏻
Suzuki have a great new engine to take forward the V Strom legacy. But, for me, the 21" front wheel and tubed tyres would be a deal breaker. Most UK riders won't ever need their off road capability....but if Suzuki brought out a more road-focused 19" tubeless version, I'd grab it straight away. I rode the 8S back to back with a Hornet - for me, their was no competition, the Suzuki was the better bike. It'll be interesting to see how the 800DE sells against the new Transalp. (PS Jane's the wife!)
Indeed some good points “Jane” (😂) I get the tuned tyre issue but the 21” wheel was perfectly fine in the bends
I rode it off-road for the (French) Greenwich South last weekend, and it's very balanced and seems much lighter than it's weight. The dealer just add to fit knobby tires on top of the already installed crash-bars, and it went on the tracks like a charm. I'm saying this after 75000+ km on an Africa Twin 1000, including an off-road trip to Morocco last fall: this bike will be my next bike!
Cheers great to hear from a true adventure rider esp after being on the Africa Twin 😀👍🏻
add rural australian councils the list of councils who think loose gravel everywhere = satisfactory road conditions
As far as I kan tell the KTM 890 beats it on every level, except perhaps reliability. But that’s highly debatable.
Yes it is and also price
nice, i'm almost your exact dimensions. 20 lbs heavier - but you liked the riding position? i probably will too then.
Curious - what octane fuel was it burning in this test? at 12+ compression i know Suzuki recommends the highest you can find
Surely they will release a tubeless version?
For sure
Great review mucker after a demo on the v strom what a great bike but just today had a demo from chorley yamaha the tracer 9 gt knocks the v strom out the park.not saying the v strom is a bad bike but yammie 9 gt wins it for me
Thank you.... I do think they are different bikes as I wouldn't desribe the Tracer as an adventure bike per se
I do think the tracer is a rival to the road going vstrom 1050. The cp3 motor is in another league.
Noooooo! Not another 'bike with a beak'!! (😄😄 Just kidding.)
Not my cup of tea but in no doubt whatsoever this machine, together with Honda's new Transalp will sell like hot cakes and give their owners many miles and years of pleasure.
Suzuki certainly appear to have got this engine right from the go. Of those reviews I've seen of the CB750 and GSXS-8, Suzuki's motor edges the Honda's in real world usability, even though it's not as powerful. I think Suzuki have got a winner here.
Excellent, comprehensive review as ever. 👍
Thank you Mark it’s a great engine I’d just like it to have more character….it’s super smooth for a twin
Thanks for a great review.. you didn’t mention whether that seat height is adjustable?? I’m not as tall as you so might struggle with 855mm… shame as it sounds good.
I don’t think it is tbh but I’ll check
You’ve got the perfect job, playing on lots of different bikes. Now that you are finding that you like lots of different ones are you tempted away from the Enfield brand ?
Now that’s a good question….as it stands I love what my interceptor and Classic 350 give me in terms of the nostalgic ride and as you well know the Pan is a benchmark tourer…that VStrom fit like a glove in a way that the others I’ve so far tested don’t. But h btw….I’ve taken the cow bars off the Classic!
@@thebingleywheeler glad to hear it 😁😁😁
Great review and beautiful countryside, whereabouts is this?
On the moors between Bingley and Keighley (Street Lane)
beautifull place
What a great channel though
Good work Sir
TBW good review on the Suzuki not to sure about that jacket though 😂😂👍🏻
Thanks….didn’t review the jacket though 😂
@@thebingleywheeler I’m not surprised 😂😂👍🏻
Man I thought my old Vstrom was ugly. Did they try and make it this ugly? It's just incredible! The 1050s look 99% better than these. However I never bought my other vstrom because of how it looked. I bought it for the all round function. I will probably end up buying this bike and a complete vinyl wrap so I don't vomit every time I see it. Function wise I think Suzuki has done very well and have been able to check many of the boxes that I require.
I think it looks great…..all a matter of opinion of course
@@thebingleywheeler Yes of course. Perhaps 2025 they will have a better color scheme. It isn't the shape of the bike that I dislike so much. It's the colors. To me they can't get much worse. But I would also really like to have cruise as an option. I have never had it but find myself always wanting it. Especially when riding alone. Hard to use of course with multiple riders I would assume.
How does this bike compare to the trsnsalp. Its weight is alot more
I’ll let you know as soon as I get chance to ride one
Way more adjustable suspension, and offers more travel too. It also has more torque than the transalp.
This is thing is only middle weight by engine size only every thing else classifies it a heavy weight especially the actual weight of the bike...the weight is a deal breaker for me.. the Africa twin is lighter
The million dollar question : This or the Transalp?
I'll let you know
That would be a cracker of a bike. I wish I were 6’ and a 33” inseam many things would be more manageable than for my 5’8” 30.5” inseam. Yes, I’ll add that .5 in there, 😂
Superlative scenery!
100% w/ your thoughts regarding criminally irresponsible council' spreading excess gravel. They do it here in Leicestershire too. Same deal w/ it being in patches also. Municipal vandalism is what it is & it's amazing these otherwise safety zealots cut down conker trees to stop kids playing a 'dangerous game', endlessly introduce infantile regs & restrictions for our own good - then lay out death traps such as these. Jail should be on for these dangerous clowns!! 🤡
Spot on Dave.why they don’t just use the smooth tarmac used on bigger roads (and which lasts longer) I’ll never know…..unless they have other motives of course
@@thebingleywheeler "other motives" ~ exactly so! Bit like the plague of phantom roadworks, whereby all routes in & out of my town & surrounding environs have signage & traffic lights causing jams. And at each & all these places, no workers, no equipment, no obvious failures in surface, nor any sign of ANYTHING being or been done. It's almost like the zealots are trying to suck any remaining enjoyment from motoring in order to curb/ deter journeys. Hmmmm 🤔 funny that.......
Mi piacerebbe sapere se il motore scalda, grazie.
Interesting but not sure id advertise doing over 30 in a 20 zone and over 50 in a 30😂
Prove it! 😂
He had the speedo set in kilometres.
Legs at 45 degrees? 🤔 😉
All reviews seem to lack the off road test which is expected since it's an Adv bike, sorry boaring 😊
It’s an insurance issue….and you could at least make the effort to spell “boring” correctly 👍🏻
Heavy...poor performance specs...heavy....no cruise? really. please...these will definitely be not flying off any show rooms anytime soon. An expensive KLR but better, thats about it.
And the second best viewing numbers of all my reviews….I think you’re wrong there 😂
@@thebingleywheeler and my local dealer has 4 800de's and 3 1050's on their showroom floor for past few months...zero KTM's zero teneres zero tiger's.
Wrong dealer it seems 😂
No. As long as Aprilia Tuareg 660 exists , this motorcycle makes no sens.
Until the Aprilia breaks down 😂
@@thebingleywheeler Do you know for a fact that Aprilia Tuareg 660 is unreliable? I am inclined to believe that it is a reliable motorcycle but i am ready to be educated.
A 1/2 baked bike, for unclear use, built on stingines and naivity of the customers.
No standard windshield ( the little crap it comes with - doesn't qualify...). No Cruise Control ( on a TRAVELING bike ! ) ... No tubeless wheels..... Looks = 🤮🤮🤮..... High price ( for what you get ).
Have you ridden one then?
@@thebingleywheeler
Im not that retarded - to even consider...
He's comparing with a 1200 bike probably.
wind protection seems terrible compared to the new transalp
Just needs the bigger screen which is an option to be fair