The Vacheron store staff here are so accommodating enough that they even take time to explain their watches even if i am just looking around. :) Patek stores, nahhhh.
I had a similarly positive experience at the Panerai boutique in Florence. I was CLEARLY not in the proper tax bracket to be a serious buyer but was welcomed and treated as if I were looking for a tourbillon! When I can afford a Panerai new, I will make the trip back to Florence just for that treat.
@@jamestouchette859 Same experience at the A. Lange & Söhne boutique, they treated my peasant looking ass my with a Coffee and let me try on their pieces. I looked like I had just come out of the rehab.
@@jamestouchette859 the tech market plays a part. Every watch boutique has had somebody saunter in wearing a hoodie, jeans & trainers and then part with some serious (buy a car) coin on a luxury watch. Patek is possibly a bit stuffy about it but VC and AL&S know they have a following among tech nerds. JLC too.
Same with IWC and Vacheron for me, they took out a 100K plus minute repeater just so I could hear the chime. But I will never buy a breitling, they treated me horribly, acted as if I was a thief. Asked what my budget was and I said was I was just looking, then proceeded to quietly call security.
My uncle had a 222, however I was too young to know what it was and he kept it in pristine condition - after his passing, his son sold the watch. I would've happily bought it from them, but they had no idea that I would even be interested. Lesson: Always keep an eye on your family's wrists.
"It may not be of Genta origin, but in that sense it carries more of the spirit of the brand than the other way around. Avoiding the pitfalls of becoming the brand itself." Magical.
I couldn't have said it any better, 'more refined'. A perfect description, like a Nautilus or Royal Oak but more refined. Love this channel Thanks, as always great video.
I recently inherited some pocket watches form my grandfather, and a couple are early VCs (though they're from before when it was just called Vacheron Constantin, one is marked "Vacheron & Constantin" along with "Charles Vacheron" and the other is "Abraham Vacheron Girod")
You’re incredibly lucky, as well as being priceless sentiments those models have incredible history, provenance, and value on the vintage/antique watch market.
@@jamestouchette859I inherited, a heavily dived late 70's Rolex SeaDweller and a Jaeger Reverso from my uncle. My uncle also taught me scuba diving, so it's very sentimental to me.
I find it incredible how IWC had an integrated bracelet watch designed by GG in their lineup, and they through it away to create the most insignificant design ever
IWC are weird, I don’t know why they did that. The Ingenieur Jumbo is a magnificent watch, if theyd continued making that one variant at least the ‘holy trinity’ of Audemars, Patek and Vacheron would probably expand to include IWC and be the ‘holy quartet’
considering the whole package, history, finishing, technics and artistic design and of course character, no other brand can compete the humble VC. making comparison of VC with other watches, of course with utmost respect to all of them, is comparing old money and new money. just take a close look to all timepieces VC is creating and compare with other top brands, you can see its miles away in quality, just i can feel some masters have put their hearts in their job to finish it like that, specially Les Cabinotiers that are non comparable with any other watch on the earth. other top brands are using marketing technics and ....., but forget marketing and price there is no rival for VC over all and considering total timepeices. i just wish this brand was kept in family.
Always great content, thank you. A fine mix of history, technical insight, and branding strategy. “We buy them for what they once were”. How true. Well done.
I love the little VC logo close to the "lugs" beyond the 5 hour marker on the 222. As always, such a stunning production value in the watchfinder videos! Glad that the Overseas came to be, even without Genta's touch.
The Vacheron Constantin Oversees is the most beautiful sport watch in the world. It is more beautiful than the Rolex Submariner, Audemars Piguet Royal Oak, and the Patek Philippe Nautilus. I like the VC Matese cross-case, Maltese cross bracelet, and the transparent case back with the sta rotor.
There is a slight keyframing issue with the blemish removal at 0:13. Just wanted to let you know as I didn’t find other comments pointing it out. Great video regardless.
I didn't know they do that! So, how many times have I been fooled thinking about how "perfect" are some of those pieces they showed us on this channel?
@@bannedaccount3752 It might just be for the aesthetic of the video. For the watches they resell, they must disclose any imperfections of the products.
This loan watch is a preproduction model so it’s not quite up to the usual Vacheron Constantin standards-if only mildly! Watches are ordinarily seen warts and all.
3:10 how did that scratched Maltese cross on the dial pass inspection? That would drive me nuts. Plus it looks like it was stamped out without finishing. Several other little flaws on the dial too. It’s a killer watch regardless.
could you please review the JLC Master control limited run sector dial? Really want to pull the tigger on this one but need your thoughts. such a classy watch. That dial!
Great content! I’d love to see something on the history of the Omega constellation line. It’s not as appreciated as the speed masters and sea masters but it carries great heritage for the brand and the latest collection with ceramic bezels are a real jump forward in terms of design for the collection
Vacheron Constantin is absolutely my favorite watchmaker. Im surprised rappers arent rocking these instead of the mainstream rolex, audemars and pateks
I own a third generation of the steel Overseas with the blue dial. Reasons for choosing were exactly these: beauty, design, tradition, and unparalleled finishing. I also refuse to go with flow and chose what I like or want based on what others think. I like exclusivity, personality. The obvious choices, as you know, are Patek and OP. Basically, if you’re in the market for a steel sports watch that represents that historical 70’s period, there’s no better choice. Patek Philippe and OP are excellent watches, but what drives their prices up is basically hype, people that care more of what others think of their watch, status, or people that want to profit from it, buying just to flip immediately. This is simply sad in my opinion. The pleasure of owning and wearing an Overseas is being able to admire the best of watchmaking and forget about the reasons most people buy (or desire) a Nautilus or a RoyalOak.
I agree the RO is very masculine and industrial and the Nautilus more feminine and softer . The reason why i like the Overseas the best (personally) among the 3 is its well balanced and comes with 2 extra straps to boot and covers all the bases.
Me: launches Chrome to look up some VPN tech info. Got notice that WatchFinder had a new video. Opens TH-cam. Forgets VPN question, now wants a Constantin!
Thanks for taking the comment and do this video, love it. Please do a video for the VC 5500v and the royal oak chronograph! Thank you so much. Love your video.
That sucker has some definite battle scars too. But what's amazing to me is how poorly this watch is finished. This could have been finished in an East German machine shop.
4:18 I mean, how in a world can you scratch a logo? Judging by the bezel, I believe it opens from the top, but no real watchmaker it that inaccurate to put a scratch even on logo.
Intruigingly, the buler astromaster (a cheap but swiss made watch) was released in 1970 and had a very similar appearance to the royal oak which arrived 2 years later.....
The Oris Aquis regulateur der meistertaucher would be a watch I would be interested in. The history behind the regulator movement, along with the thinking behind it.
Another awesome video, thank you Watchfinder. Stainless Overseas Blue is my favorite of the Genta and Genta inspired. Never afford it, but nice to dream......
I thought that "London Academy of Arts" sounded wrong - there's no such institution, and I've never heard of such. Another source says he studied at The Royal Academy, which could be possible, but not for two years, and so I looked around and there's an interview in which he's quoted directly as saying that he studied sculpture at the Central School of Art (later conglomerated with St Martins).
No direct design connection between the 222 and any OS...Two different integrated bracelet watch designs by two different designers but both trying to follow the Genta path of designing high horology steel sport watches with integrated bracelets... Nevertheless the new OS gen 3 is a very sophisticated and gorgeous timepiece.
Hey ! Please review a Steel Oversea Chrono, I would love you to review it since no one is doing it. Love your video and really want to hear what you say with the steal model overseas. Thanks !
If this history I'd learnt in school was anything approaching as interesting as the history of different watches and brands that feature in your videos, I would have come away with a Jedi master grade rather than the dunce grade I got.
The blue dial version of the QP was mesmerizing in person, saw it at the boutique 6 months ago and placed an order at the local AD but still no luck. Not willing to pay full retail at the boutique though.
I bought my Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Offshore QE II Cup, Limited Edition (184/500) Chronograph, in Red Gold and Forged Carbon back in 2016 and I love it more each day ....
I love the RO, and can appreciate the Nautilus, but I've never really been blown away by these. I think they are too understated for the kind of watch they are.
The problem about this video and many others alike, is that Watchfinder is owned by the same capital group that owns Vacheron Constanstin and other brands. The videos are insightful, I enjoy them dearly, but you can't help but think that this connection affects the presentation and words being spoken.
As far as I am concerned, this is a brilliant fact... Imagine this channel being owned by the swatch group...or much worst, by Rolex. All things considered, they talk quite well and impartialy about any brand, even outside of the group.
I have a VC and it was thought to be genuine by a London dealer but a London auction house thought they were unsure and I was told to get full verification I would have to send it to that dealer. The cost was £1000 just to look at it. A big gamble. Thoughts please
Vacheron Constanin 1921 is my Grail watch! People ask why are the Arabic numerals not positioned correctly, simple because the watch is in a class of its own & meant to be worn on the inside of the wrist...
VC should have changed the name of the new model. AP and Patek still offer the original design, hence VC should have kept it as well and offer the new model as a different line.
The Vacheron store staff here are so accommodating enough that they even take time to explain their watches even if i am just looking around. :) Patek stores, nahhhh.
@@user-js2dr9gv1u one must not need to be a high profile person because every one is a potential buyer. :)
I had a similarly positive experience at the Panerai boutique in Florence. I was CLEARLY not in the proper tax bracket to be a serious buyer but was welcomed and treated as if I were looking for a tourbillon! When I can afford a Panerai new, I will make the trip back to Florence just for that treat.
@@jamestouchette859 Same experience at the A. Lange & Söhne boutique, they treated my peasant looking ass my with a Coffee and let me try on their pieces. I looked like I had just come out of the rehab.
@@jamestouchette859 the tech market plays a part. Every watch boutique has had somebody saunter in wearing a hoodie, jeans & trainers and then part with some serious (buy a car) coin on a luxury watch. Patek is possibly a bit stuffy about it but VC and AL&S know they have a following among tech nerds. JLC too.
Same with IWC and Vacheron for me, they took out a 100K plus minute repeater just so I could hear the chime. But I will never buy a breitling, they treated me horribly, acted as if I was a thief. Asked what my budget was and I said was I was just looking, then proceeded to quietly call security.
My uncle had a 222, however I was too young to know what it was and he kept it in pristine condition - after his passing, his son sold the watch. I would've happily bought it from them, but they had no idea that I would even be interested. Lesson: Always keep an eye on your family's wrists.
"It may not be of Genta origin, but in that sense it carries more of the spirit of the brand than the other way around. Avoiding the pitfalls of becoming the brand itself." Magical.
Totally agree.
The pitfall that AP fell into. They are only the royal oak, nothing else anymore.
I couldn't have said it any better, 'more refined'. A perfect description, like a Nautilus or Royal Oak but more refined. Love this channel Thanks, as always great video.
I recently inherited some pocket watches form my grandfather, and a couple are early VCs (though they're from before when it was just called Vacheron Constantin, one is marked "Vacheron & Constantin" along with "Charles Vacheron" and the other is "Abraham Vacheron Girod")
I think the & was added after 1974, not 100% positive.
I love hearing "I inherited..." stories like this from people positioned to appreciate their gifts!
You’re incredibly lucky, as well as being priceless sentiments those models have incredible history, provenance, and value on the vintage/antique watch market.
@@jamestouchette859I inherited, a heavily dived late 70's Rolex SeaDweller and a Jaeger Reverso from my uncle.
My uncle also taught me scuba diving, so it's very sentimental to me.
This has to be one if the top 3 best put together videos from Watchfinder. Fantastic narrative. Thank you!
Just outstanding. The amount of times you knock it out the park is just amazing.
Of the Trinity, VC has always been my favorite.
Why is breguet not considered one of the trinity?
@@jordangoggin1320 because Breguet has French origins, not Swiss, and the trinity is meant to be a trinity of Swiss watch brands
I find it incredible how IWC had an integrated bracelet watch designed by GG in their lineup, and they through it away to create the most insignificant design ever
What watch was that?
@@mood1676 the ingenieur
@@19NJS71 oh awesome, also that was the fastest response to a comment I’ve seen. I didn’t even finish the video yet 😂 thanks man
IWC are weird, I don’t know why they did that. The Ingenieur Jumbo is a magnificent watch, if theyd continued making that one variant at least the ‘holy trinity’ of Audemars, Patek and Vacheron would probably expand to include IWC and be the ‘holy quartet’
considering the whole package, history, finishing, technics and artistic design and of course character, no other brand can compete the humble VC.
making comparison of VC with other watches, of course with utmost respect to all of them, is comparing old money and new money.
just take a close look to all timepieces VC is creating and compare with other top brands, you can see its miles away in quality, just i can feel some masters have put their hearts in their job to finish it like that, specially Les Cabinotiers that are non comparable with any other watch on the earth.
other top brands are using marketing technics and ....., but forget marketing and price there is no rival for VC over all and considering total timepeices.
i just wish this brand was kept in family.
Always great content, thank you. A fine mix of history, technical insight, and branding strategy. “We buy them for what they once were”. How true. Well done.
I love the little VC logo close to the "lugs" beyond the 5 hour marker on the 222.
As always, such a stunning production value in the watchfinder videos! Glad that the Overseas came to be, even without Genta's touch.
Yeah, me too. I'd like to see that on new iterations of the Overseas myself.
The voice, the music, the videography, the feel.. Gods watchfinder was good with Andrew
Another excellent and educational commentary! The charming voice is the best in the TH-cam watch community bar none! Thanks!
Enjoying a visit to the toilet and get notified of a new watchfinder video. Guess I'll be here another ten minutes
AHAHAHHA same here!!
AHAH same bro
Ya know, you don't have to share everything.
I'm by the road should with hazard lights on 🤭
@@Robert_Browne ahahaha what's wrong in telling that? 😁
The Vacheron Constantin Oversees is the most beautiful sport watch in the world. It is more beautiful than the Rolex Submariner, Audemars Piguet Royal Oak, and the Patek Philippe Nautilus. I like the VC Matese cross-case, Maltese cross bracelet, and the transparent case back with the sta rotor.
Definitely my favourite of the top 3 brands and the Overseas one of my grail watches.
There is a slight keyframing issue with the blemish removal at 0:13. Just wanted to let you know as I didn’t find other comments pointing it out. Great video regardless.
I didn't know they do that! So, how many times have I been fooled thinking about how "perfect" are some of those pieces they showed us on this channel?
@@bannedaccount3752 It might just be for the aesthetic of the video. For the watches they resell, they must disclose any imperfections of the products.
This loan watch is a preproduction model so it’s not quite up to the usual Vacheron Constantin standards-if only mildly! Watches are ordinarily seen warts and all.
3:10 how did that scratched Maltese cross on the dial pass inspection? That would drive me nuts. Plus it looks like it was stamped out without finishing. Several other little flaws on the dial too. It’s a killer watch regardless.
Possible damage during service
Isn’t that the back of the case?
could you please review the JLC Master control limited run sector dial?
Really want to pull the tigger on this one but need your thoughts.
such a classy watch. That dial!
Great content! I’d love to see something on the history of the Omega constellation line. It’s not as appreciated as the speed masters and sea masters but it carries great heritage for the brand and the latest collection with ceramic bezels are a real jump forward in terms of design for the collection
VC is definitely my favourite of the Trinity
Vacheron Constantin is absolutely my favorite watchmaker. Im surprised rappers arent rocking these instead of the mainstream rolex, audemars and pateks
VC is for people who actually appreciate true history and engineering. Rolex is just for rich show offs
Let's hope they never discover VC
Your videos got me into watches and this video sure as hell makes me want to work hard and buy an overseas in this lifetime
Always love VC..
I really enjoyed Watchfinder videos, perhaps one of my favorite watch TH-camr. Always learned something new.
You NEVER hear about Vacheron
One of the reasons I prefer it.
I’ve got a new grail now. The Perpetual version is absolutely gorgeous.
Will probably never be able to afford it, but man, will I dream.
I own a third generation of the steel Overseas with the blue dial. Reasons for choosing were exactly these: beauty, design, tradition, and unparalleled finishing. I also refuse to go with flow and chose what I like or want based on what others think. I like exclusivity, personality. The obvious choices, as you know, are Patek and OP. Basically, if you’re in the market for a steel sports watch that represents that historical 70’s period, there’s no better choice. Patek Philippe and OP are excellent watches, but what drives their prices up is basically hype, people that care more of what others think of their watch, status, or people that want to profit from it, buying just to flip immediately. This is simply sad in my opinion. The pleasure of owning and wearing an Overseas is being able to admire the best of watchmaking and forget about the reasons most people buy (or desire) a Nautilus or a RoyalOak.
The Vacheron Constantin Overseas 41mm in blue would be my final watch (if I could afford it).
+1
Same.
+1
Blue dial Overseas in 18ct pink gold. That is the watch of my dreams.
Earthen. I fully agree with you. Greetings from Germany
I agree the RO is very masculine and industrial and the Nautilus more feminine and softer . The reason why i like the Overseas the best (personally) among the 3 is its well balanced and comes with 2 extra straps to boot and covers all the bases.
Would love to know more about where Rado came from and its technological contribution to the industry by mastering ceramics.
Me: launches Chrome to look up some VPN tech info. Got notice that WatchFinder had a new video. Opens TH-cam. Forgets VPN question, now wants a Constantin!
All Vacheron Watches are great watches. Excellent video as always.
Daammm, the history and the watches are mesmerizing, I really enjoy videos of this sorts. I love seeing JLC at the centre of the trinity.
love the videos, but the audio level is quite low compared to other videos, if that could be boosted i would be most grateful
Thanks for taking the comment and do this video, love it. Please do a video for the VC 5500v and the royal oak chronograph! Thank you so much. Love your video.
It's a good day when Watchfinder releases a new video.
How can there be 15 people that disliked this video!?
Another great video! Thanks!
Such a shame the 222 wasn’t running in this video, at least they set the hands to the ‘traditional’ ten past ten position!
That sucker has some definite battle scars too. But what's amazing to me is how poorly this watch is finished. This could have been finished in an East German machine shop.
4:18 I mean, how in a world can you scratch a logo?
Judging by the bezel, I believe it opens from the top, but no real watchmaker it that inaccurate to put a scratch even on logo.
Yes, terrible. Also the date frame at 3:36 top left corner.
@@martialwhite6831 It shows you how soft 18k gold can be and that you need to make sure only master watchmakers touch the movement!
Martial White I saw several nicks and imperfections on the dial too. Shocking huh?
Exactly my thinking!
That looks like poor servicing
Beautiful watches... Memorable times... I have a feeling that nostalgia is what I succumbed to !
This question has probably been answered numerous times. But why do all the watches on the WatchFinder website tell the same time? Thanks
I have been to many high end brand stores; I have got the best service with V.C and JLC by far, specially JLC. They killed it!
Intruigingly, the buler astromaster (a cheap but swiss made watch) was released in 1970 and had a very similar appearance to the royal oak which arrived 2 years later.....
The Oris Aquis regulateur der meistertaucher would be a watch I would be interested in. The history behind the regulator movement, along with the thinking behind it.
I'd like to see the Glashutte Original 70's watch featured.
Can you please do a video on Baume & Mercier?
Another awesome video, thank you Watchfinder. Stainless Overseas Blue is my favorite of the Genta and Genta inspired. Never afford it, but nice to dream......
.... Contantin? 😅 I'm in too early
I thought that "London Academy of Arts" sounded wrong - there's no such institution, and I've never heard of such. Another source says he studied at The Royal Academy, which could be possible, but not for two years, and so I looked around and there's an interview in which he's quoted directly as saying that he studied sculpture at the Central School of Art (later conglomerated with St Martins).
No direct design connection between the 222 and any OS...Two different integrated bracelet watch designs by two different designers but both trying to follow the Genta path of designing high horology steel sport watches with integrated bracelets... Nevertheless the new OS gen 3 is a very sophisticated and gorgeous timepiece.
bro, smaller channels make some of the most interesting things. They put so much effort into what they have.
Hey ! Please review a Steel Oversea Chrono, I would love you to review it since no one is doing it. Love your video and really want to hear what you say with the steal model overseas. Thanks !
If this history I'd learnt in school was anything approaching as interesting as the history of different watches and brands that feature in your videos, I would have come away with a Jedi master grade rather than the dunce grade I got.
Vacheron constantin is a beautiful piece of art in watches ❤
The first one seems to be a bit roughly finished... what's that on the 11 o clock index?
222 has been my grail since I first got into watches. Perfection
I wish V.C would do a extra thin model as well like AP and PP has done!
The blue dial version of the QP was mesmerizing in person, saw it at the boutique 6 months ago and placed an order at the local AD but still no luck. Not willing to pay full retail at the boutique though.
I bought my Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Offshore QE II Cup, Limited Edition (184/500) Chronograph, in Red Gold and Forged Carbon back in 2016 and I love it more each day ....
I love the RO, and can appreciate the Nautilus, but I've never really been blown away by these.
I think they are too understated for the kind of watch they are.
The RO is quite bling, harsh angels and the way the bracelet plays with light.
They are divers, just smart sports watches.
Fantastic watch, I would for sure choose it over the others. Would...
i love how watch companies compete with each other and then still respects each other
The problem about this video and many others alike, is that Watchfinder is owned by the same capital group that owns Vacheron Constanstin and other brands. The videos are insightful, I enjoy them dearly, but you can't help but think that this connection affects the presentation and words being spoken.
As far as I am concerned, this is a brilliant fact...
Imagine this channel being owned by the swatch group...or much worst, by Rolex.
All things considered, they talk quite well and impartialy about any brand, even outside of the group.
I'm actually surprised by the many imperfections on the surface of the Vacheron under the macro lens.
That VC Perpetual is my grail, but with the blue dial!
I have a VC and it was thought to be genuine by a London dealer but a London auction house thought they were unsure and I was told to get full verification I would have to send it to that dealer. The cost was £1000 just to look at it. A big gamble. Thoughts please
For some reason VC just doesn’t do it for me aesthetically
I find myself mesmerized by these videos.....Why?
idk why people buy watches that cost this much. the cross at 6 being off >10 degrees is indicative of worse quality control than seiko
Of these 70s luxury sport watches designs, the only one that I really like is the 222.
What do you think about the IWC 1832 Jumbo? Greetings from Germany
Man I would LOVE a 222 reissue.
Please make a review of the Zenith A783
I wonder, why do the perpetual calendars not have a second hand?
What is the exact model of VC at 2:30 ?
Please give review on Seiko SPB165J1..🙏🙏.. and suggest me best seiko presage watch please.
One word “Beautiful”
What do you folks think of the 49150 2nd Gen Overseas Chronograph?
Is it just me or is the cross at 6 o'clock slightly crooked?
Yeah I noticed that too. Makes you wonder... Haha
"Contantin" ? TYPO alert :p
It's so challenging to stay original in this world. Change is the only constant
Could you talk about foudroyante watches?!
They have. Look at the F.P. Journe Centigraphe
@@centrallyintelligentagency thanks, I'll check it out!
@@centrallyintelligentagency was hoping for more of an in depth look at the foudroyante complications itself!
Took me a while to get my head around the month/leap year indicator.
Love your channel! Please go back to uploading 4K videos !! 4K please !
I'm curious how the VC is considered a "sports watch" ????
Awesome.. as always
I love your channel.
Vacheron Constanin 1921 is my Grail watch! People ask why are the Arabic numerals not positioned correctly, simple because the watch is in a class of its own & meant to be worn on the inside of the wrist...
My favorite of the trinity.
I like the royal oak as well but I'm not the highest fan of the nautilus 😱
I prefer the superior Hublot big bang unico 😎
@@kingadjust5422 de gustibus non disputandum est... but seriously, hublot??
@@lova1671 what language is that? also the hublot is superior to any vacheron constantin
@@kingadjust5422 stop playing.
Why is the watch not running?
For me 222 is most beautiful watch ever made
I would love a video on Christophe Claret
Go to their website.
Great history lesson 👍🏻
Can you please feature a Habring Perpetual Doppel in an upcoming video of yours?
Love VC Overseas. Considering a Patrimony.
this dude's voice over can make any watch appealing...
I’m seriously contemplating an Overseas in steel
VC should have changed the name of the new model. AP and Patek still offer the original design, hence VC should have kept it as well and offer the new model as a different line.