Erkki Melartin : Symphony No.3 (1907) : NEW EDITION 2012

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  • The Melartin Society's new performing edition of the Third Symphony differs remarkably from the version adopted by Leonid Grin for his well-known and much loved 1990's recording with the Tampere Philharmonic. It's around ten minutes longer, much of the new material seemingly in the first movement. Throughout the work instrumentation is more detailed, complex, sophisticated, ambitious, original. There are points in the "Grin Version" that seemed curiously weak or disjointed ~ now they are complete as originally intended, they make perfect sense, raising the symphony to an even higher level. Apparently the Third Symphony needed rather less reconstruction work than the others, suggesting other symphonies are going to sound very different indeed!
    This is a live performance 27th April 2012, recorded from a radio broadcast. The Finnish Radio Symphony Orchestra were conducted by Sakari Oramo. As with most live performances there is a certain amount of coughing from the audience, there are also some blips & distortions in the recording, but the sound is generally very good.
    MELARTIN SOCIETY NEW EDITIONS....
    "In 2006, the Erkki Melartin Society launched an editing and clean-copying project for Melartin’s symphonies. The aim was to promote their performing, and help them become a living part of the music culture in Finland. Besides the works of Jean Sibelius, the public of today should be given a possibility of hearing the more lyrical symphonic music of Melartin, which has been more influenced by the Finnish folk songs, the Finnish scenery, and the idyll of summer.
    The editing and clean-copying project has also the objective of facilitating the work of symphony orchestras, since the autograph scores and handwritten orchestral parts have mistakes, incoherencies and interpretation problems. Until now, orchestras and conductors have made a considerable effort in turning the
    contents of sometimes unreadable photocopies of Melartin's scores into performable shape. In addition, the works have sometimes been radically shortened in recordings and historical radio broadcasts. Therefore, it has been considered important to produce the orchestral materials in the forms in which the composer has originally written them". Follow link below for full article on Symphony No.3 ...
    www2.siba.fi/Melartinseura/Pre...
    Image; Vyborg Castle (Viipuri) by Philipp Chistyakov
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vyborg_C...
    Erkki Melartin Facebook Group; / 226983557371954

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  • @GaryLachman
    @GaryLachman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Another fantastic work by another fantastic composer who never gets played on BBC Radio 3.

    • @geoffreyjohnston6483
      @geoffreyjohnston6483 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's because his name isn't Mozart, Beethoven or Bach. It's also a matter of commercial appeal for the unwashed, unaware listeners.

    • @TheDukeOfWaltham
      @TheDukeOfWaltham 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Then it might hearten you to learn that I only found out about him through Radio 3: his "Marionettes" were played recently on "Through the Night". I'd never heard of Melartin before, and indeed, one of the reasons I still listen to the radio is to discover works I otherwise wouldn't.

    • @GaryLachman
      @GaryLachman 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Many thanks for passing this on. I still listen to Radio 3, but I find more interesting music here these days.
      @@TheDukeOfWaltham

  • @mrturtle1128
    @mrturtle1128 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The final movement is the loveliest symphonic movement I have ever heard, always almost bring me to tears, and only a few I can think of has such impact.

  • @mongkolum1314
    @mongkolum1314 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you very much TH-cam,​ Julian Arculus for giving me the opportunity to hear Erkki Melatin which becomes one of my favourite composers with this fantastic symphony. I am a Cambodian.

    • @julianarculus2142
      @julianarculus2142  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you, Mongkol Um! I'm certain Erkki Melartin would have been delighted by your love of his music. Beyond being a highly sophisticated composer, he was a person of wide knowledge and learning, a fluent speaker of many languages, and despite fragile health, a great traveller to exotic places. His travels were driven by a deep interest in philosophy and the different cultures & religions of the world ~ especially the East. This led him In 1928 to publish his Op.150, surprisingly not a work of music, but a book of aphorisms, titled "Credo".

  • @bowerdw
    @bowerdw 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Just what I like to listen to. It is intense and dramatic.

  • @bowerdw
    @bowerdw ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4 years after hearing the first time, I still like it. That is a mark of a great work, it still is appealing with a re-listen.

  • @chel3SEY
    @chel3SEY 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a delightful symphony. Thanks so much for posting.

  • @oxymoronicon5543
    @oxymoronicon5543 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for uploading this. Kiitos! I have recently discovered Melartin's music, and I am especially fond of his 4th Symphony "summer symphony". I wish his music were better known!

  • @philhomes233
    @philhomes233 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent.

  • @murrayandfionasteele9993
    @murrayandfionasteele9993 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hopefully we will get a commercial recording to complement the edited Grin version

  • @mackjay1777
    @mackjay1777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks a lot for this upload! The performance is very impressive and with very good audio quality

  • @neilhazell5908
    @neilhazell5908 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Reminds me of early Stenhammar, whose Symphony No 1 is a favourite of mine. Thanks for plucking Melartin out of (my) obscurity!

    • @julianarculus2142
      @julianarculus2142  8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Neil Hazell Stenhammar described his #1 as "idyllic Bruckner" but to my ears there's also a generous measure of "Idyllic Franck". Probably for this reason he
      came to regard it as a "Study Symphony", but wow it's an impressive work. In the somewhat unlikely event of Franck & Bruckner collaborating on a joint Symphony (a-la Chinese), I doubt they could have done much better...

    • @ruramikael
      @ruramikael 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think the formal approach was that of Bruckner's, but there are other musical influences too....the outer movements of Stenhammar fall apart somewhat in their symphonic construction, that is why he withdrew it.......

  • @CarlosLima-oe7wn
    @CarlosLima-oe7wn 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Desconhecido aqui no Brasil, o compositor é contemporâneo de Mahler e tb exala criatividade e beleza !!

  • @ronaldbwoodall2628
    @ronaldbwoodall2628 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is a fantastic symphony in either edition, but I'm so grateful to hear the complete work, as it does gain even more in stature as well as length. For further comparison, I'd like to hear Maestro Grin also conduct this version. I hope I may one day hear Melartin's other symphonies in their restored original forms.

  • @RodrigoElorduy
    @RodrigoElorduy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Increíble música, maravillosa sinfonía!!!

  • @anabriones7784
    @anabriones7784 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Fantastic!!!!!!! thank you so much for uploading!

  • @galas062
    @galas062 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thank you....:)

  • @victorreyesb9176
    @victorreyesb9176 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks a lot!

  • @klop4228
    @klop4228 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Mvt 1: 0:00
    Mvt 2: 14:35
    Mvt 3: 25:50
    Mvt 4: 36:20

    • @migs_xyz
      @migs_xyz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mvt 1: 0:32

  • @kuang-licheng402
    @kuang-licheng402 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    nice

  • @davidgunn3947
    @davidgunn3947 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brilliant music..............has to be up there with the Great Sibelius

  • @julianarculus2142
    @julianarculus2142  9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For comparison purposes, here's the Leonid Grin / Tampere Philharmonic recording... th-cam.com/video/b4cO3gfrieg/w-d-xo.html

  • @julianarculus2142
    @julianarculus2142  9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Erkki Melartin SymphoniesTranscription Project... www2.siba.fi/Melartinseura/?page=dokumentit

  • @ruramikael
    @ruramikael 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Will Oramo conduct this again?

    • @julianarculus2142
      @julianarculus2142  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      We can only keep scanning the web for signs of Melartin activity, most of which is in Finland of course. It's now nearly seven years since Sakari Oramo conducted this performance, more recently the force seems to have been with Hannu Lintu. Eventually the Melartin Society project should be in a position to deliver definitive editions of all the symphonies, at which point a new recording cycle becomes attractive. Maybe, following this concert back in 2012, Oramo also put a recording in the can (it's not unusual for recordings to take a great many years to appear commercially) in which case he only has five more to go...

  • @julianarculus2142
    @julianarculus2142  9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Explore Melartin on facebook... facebook.com/pages/Erkki-Melartin-1875-1937/226983557371954