I had a buddy of mine grind off the original welds from the original plate and weld it back up all the way around. The 2 sides and rear of the plate. The 2 front welds tacked on my baja but there was no damage to the plate.
I have a new baja warrior and stage 1 kit it's loud and mean I'm getting a new engine next month I have a torque converter but not metric bolts to install it next season looking for the right size bolts
Stop worrying about the motor and get the torque converter you see in this video. If you would have watched the entire video you would have seen that he has a 5.5.
I have one of these clone torque converters newly installed and it spins the rear tire at idle. None of the Googled reasons for what might cause this make any sense.
@@pfun41 I don't really see much opportunity to install this incorrectly. Everything appears to be in order. It would help to know what to EXPECT at idle ---- >> ... does the belt turn but the rear pulley does not, or does the belt not turn until the clutch spins faster? On the ground it won't start if the outer clutch cover (aka driver pulley cover) is on. It's like a direct drive. I really don't know what purpose that piece serves, given that the outer bolt holder is already keyed to the crankshaft. A "theory of operation" would help here. I've already lowed the idle so low it barely runs but that didn't help here. But at least there I can hit the rear break and not kill the engine in the process. When revved, once the clutch really kicks in to squeeze against the belt more, I can see the belt "raise up" within the clutch as you'd expect, but then the outer part of the belt shreds. It's a "669" belt that came with the kit. www.amazon.com/dp/B08DQXSR31?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details
What's interesting is that most of the info out there regarding things such as belt tension are for go-karts, which separate the drive pulley from the driven pulley. Here of course, that distance is known (and fixed) since there's a common plate they won't allow the two pulleys to be at the wrong distance.
@@thenexthobby Ive found the engagement RPM to be HIGHER with TCs. Meaning the engine revs higher before it starts moving. It sounds like your belt is too tight. It could be backwards or its possible the wrong mounting bolts have been used making the belt too tight.
@@pfun41 Thanks. I checked and the belt is not on backwards. As for being too tight, the distance between the 2 pulleys is of course fixed since they share the common mounting plate. In my case it acts more like it's an issue of the drive pulley prematurely pinching it, like there needs to be an additional spacer between both sheaves. I'll poke around some more.
Did it have a 10 tooth to a 20 tooth jackshaft, then a 10 tooth to a 50 tooth? That's 10/1 gearing. Why would you think it sucks? I have that gearing on one of my Colemans and it's great for slow speed riding. Nice low end. What engine do you have?
No low end torque, no high speed. Clutches knock trying to get moving. I don't know what tooth count it had I just know it sucked. I took them to a mini bike event in Tennessee and they were flying up 45* hills while the clutched mini bikes were struggling. At the time of the video they both had 196cc Honda clones, but one had a predator 212 swapped in.
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I had a buddy of mine grind off the original welds from the original plate and weld it back up all the way around. The 2 sides and rear of the plate. The 2 front welds tacked on my baja but there was no damage to the plate.
Is there a chance it could fit with no lift or grinding?
You do nice work
Just picked up one of those "jewels" ...its in need of some TLC/mods Dirtfoot Racing style
Junk chain. 😂No low end it clunks. Both of mine stock do great on state trails and hills. Good luck buddy.
Hey what size rear sprocket ⚙️ are you running. Nice video I got same mini with a 212cc
Whatever came stock on the warrior.
Probably a 50T
I have a new baja warrior and stage 1 kit it's loud and mean I'm getting a new engine next month I have a torque converter but not metric bolts to install it next season looking for the right size bolts
Whhat are you taking abt i have a stock one snd it rips
19:32 what is that bolt? Some folks on here are using these lugnut peices ? You seem to have used a longer one
5/16 fine thread. Standard retaining bolt size on 3/4" shaft engines. The Colemans come with an oddball crankshaft that uses a nut.
Can you show how you installed the torque
What motor was on this bike.Im looking to do a torque converter on a 5.5 engine Baja warrior
Stop worrying about the motor and get the torque converter you see in this video. If you would have watched the entire video you would have seen that he has a 5.5.
They both have 196cc Honda Clones.
My apologies Michael T. Wood. It did have 5.5 on the blower housing at the end of the video. I assumed it had a 5.5.
I need help I got the same type of mini bike but I can’t get it started the throttle fine I put in a new spark plug cause the old one was shot
Check carb
What kid of chain is the back chain I have that same minibike but the back chain is rusted and chunk please tell me what kind of back chain I need
These are a 420
How fast does it go tho ?
I have one of these clone torque converters newly installed and it spins the rear tire at idle. None of the Googled reasons for what might cause this make any sense.
With it off the ground? I wouldn't worry about that. If it tries to move while on the ground it may be installed incorrectly.
@@pfun41 I don't really see much opportunity to install this incorrectly. Everything appears to be in order. It would help to know what to EXPECT at idle ---- >> ... does the belt turn but the rear pulley does not, or does the belt not turn until the clutch spins faster?
On the ground it won't start if the outer clutch cover (aka driver pulley cover) is on. It's like a direct drive. I really don't know what purpose that piece serves, given that the outer bolt holder is already keyed to the crankshaft. A "theory of operation" would help here.
I've already lowed the idle so low it barely runs but that didn't help here. But at least there I can hit the rear break and not kill the engine in the process.
When revved, once the clutch really kicks in to squeeze against the belt more, I can see the belt "raise up" within the clutch as you'd expect, but then the outer part of the belt shreds. It's a "669" belt that came with the kit. www.amazon.com/dp/B08DQXSR31?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details
What's interesting is that most of the info out there regarding things such as belt tension are for go-karts, which separate the drive pulley from the driven pulley. Here of course, that distance is known (and fixed) since there's a common plate they won't allow the two pulleys to be at the wrong distance.
@@thenexthobby Ive found the engagement RPM to be HIGHER with TCs. Meaning the engine revs higher before it starts moving. It sounds like your belt is too tight. It could be backwards or its possible the wrong mounting bolts have been used making the belt too tight.
@@pfun41 Thanks. I checked and the belt is not on backwards. As for being too tight, the distance between the 2 pulleys is of course fixed since they share the common mounting plate. In my case it acts more like it's an issue of the drive pulley prematurely pinching it, like there needs to be an additional spacer between both sheaves. I'll poke around some more.
Did it have a 10 tooth to a 20 tooth jackshaft, then a 10 tooth to a 50 tooth? That's 10/1 gearing. Why would you think it sucks? I have that gearing on one of my Colemans and it's great for slow speed riding. Nice low end. What engine do you have?
No low end torque, no high speed. Clutches knock trying to get moving. I don't know what tooth count it had I just know it sucked. I took them to a mini bike event in Tennessee and they were flying up 45* hills while the clutched mini bikes were struggling. At the time of the video they both had 196cc Honda clones, but one had a predator 212 swapped in.
@@pfun41 Did you still need the risers when the 212 was swapped in?
yes, its the same for 196s or 212s
72 th sprocket
40T sprocket is better