I am not mechanically inclined, and I tend to not do things with mowers, etc., properly. I just saw this video. My new Honda went about 8 hours, and I realize that is too much. I will change this oil asap. Thank you.
Great tip on the 30min. break-in oil. The 5 hour oil change is a must. I can't tell you how many people never change out the initial oil. I think they have the mentality of if their car can go 3000k miles surely the lawnmower/snowblower can go hundreds of hours. Then they can't understand when they have engine problems.
I totally agree my friend! See lots making this mistake. Hopefully these videos can help some people out and prevent any engine issues for them! What’s new in your garage lately?
@@smallblock412was thinking about changing the oil about 25 hrs but I changed my mind. I do it at 15 hrs, considering that the oil will darken quickly at the 10 hrs mark. I prefer mineral engine oils, they're cheap and a few oil change will ensure that there are no metal debris in the engine, oil is cheap, engines aren't.
Most of my retail career was spent at an Ace Hardware store with a large power equipment sales and service department. We sold lots of Hondas, some years more than others...anywhere from 100 to 200 Honda walks annually, and I assembled plenty of them. Honda walks come with a 12 ounce bottle of Honda 10w-30 oil, and that oil is a clear oil with a hint of brown color to it. Running a new lawn mower engine for five hours will turn that oil dark grey/brown, so, there are plenty of contaminants from the manufacture process. Its almost surprising, but factual. So, follow the maintenance recommendations of the manufacturer to have a good ownership experience. Keeping the engine oil clean and at the "full" mark, along with a clean air filter and fresh, stabilized unleaded fuel, will give you trouble-free performance and many years of service. No maintenance, or lack of maintenance, are engine killers.
When I change the oil in my power equipment, I add BG MOA. If the crankcase takes 13 ounces of oil, I substitute 2 ounces of MOA for oil. It runs smoother and quieter. 11 ounces of Full Synthetic Oil and 2 ounces of MOA, a perfect mix. Oil comes out smoother that with full synthetic only. 3:30
Initial/break-in oil changes are vital on any and every ICE! Now here's the kicker... in this case it's 12-13 oz's of oil so an oil change cost per your example (Walmart full synthetic appx: $20/5 qts) works out to appx: $1.50/oil change...at that price why not change it after every mow! 😜
Enjoyed the video. A bit off topic but....Let's say you snagged a nice mower off a tree lawn, took it home and got it running after a few minutes of carb cleaning etc. I've been thinking about doing an immediate oil change and putting a couple of oz of Marvel Mystery Oil in the oil, and then the gas. Then use it maybe 5 more hours then changing the oil again. I'm betting the MMO would help clean a bunch of sludge out of the crank case. Thoughts????
Hey back in service, I have not heard of this! Could you please link any information on this by any chance. I’d appreciate it. Thank you very much and thanks for watching!
@@GarageGear This is the details. www.dsxproducts.com/dsx-extra/ if you call the cell number on the page, he can fill you in on all the uses, including in a semi for over a million miles without piston wear, formula 1 and nascar vehicles, and other heavy duty uses to reduce heat and friction. even simple things like fishing reels and air compressors work better. I have used it in my vehicles personally, on an old van that went from 23 mpg to 26.4 mpg. anyway, I appreciate your zeal to take care of equipment and make it last.
I was asking the same question 2 weeks ago. Just bought a HRN216 off the internet from Acme Tools for under $600 before tax. Lowe’s may be cheaper “if” you can find one there.
Once a year, try every 5 years using 5W-30 Amsoil. But for the new Honda I'll suggest to our son to change it every 2-3yrs. Synthetic oil can take quite a beating.
I use Amsoil Small Engine 10W-30 in my Honda GCV160 lawnmower engine, 2 Honda generators and a Honda powered power washer. I change the oil in all them annualy. My owner's manual for all these engines ask for 10W30. Jay, does your manual specify 5W30?
Good news US citizens, the STIHL 655 mower is now out in the United States. I will be using mine in a week, 3/25/24. We”ll see how the KHOLER engine does over time.
Garage gear two question 1) What is the contraption you use to hold the engine stopper to keep the engine running ? 2) Where can I find ethanol free fuel ? or can I use regular gasoline ?
Hey Zep! Here is the link to the strap wrenches I used. You can google ethanol free near me and you should be able to find some of that gas near you. Regular gas will work just don’t leave it sitting inside over time. 👍 thanks for watchingamzn.to/3TMJqUG
Hey Dr. Arnold! The hex will have slightly more power and a Sturdy plastic deck! Both cut great and very similarly. If you have a slightly bigger yard go for the HRX! If you have any other questions just let me know! Thanks for watching my friend!
Suppose I receive my new honda hrn216 this morning, fill it with fuel and the oil. Should I let the lawnmower run and wait 30 minutes without mowing the yard? Or it is ok if I mow the yard grass then change the oil after 30 minutes? There is any risk i do this?
Hey JB love the videos, quick question to make sure I understand. Do a 30 min. run, then change the oil. After I change the oil, I leave that new oil sitting for five hours running alone or just sitting without it running before I use it or the first time? From my understanding, after my first 30 min change, I am suppose to then leave it sitting for another 5 hours before using. Thanks for the help!
Thanks Kalifornia Kiing! Allow me to explain. Fill the machine up with the oil they give you. Run it for 30 minutes. Change the oil. Then just use the mower as normal for the next 5 hours. Change the oil for the second time at the 5 hour mark. And then you can go on a normal oil changing routine about every 20-30 hours or once a season. Hope this helps my friend!
Just did my first oil change and it had 16 oz in it and asked for 12. Kind of weird. All I did was add the 12 oz that it came with so the factory must have already had 4 in. Same model as yours
Be sure to *not* screw in the dip stick when checking oil level. The owner's manual says to just set it in and pull back out to check. Otherwise you will not have enough oil in the mower.
They don't make things like they used to. I gave my 25 year old Toro Recycler (B&S) its first oil change at 8 years old. Heavy and dusty use on a large property too. Gave it one more at 17 years old. Maybe it's due for it's 3rd change now? 🤔. I guess these Hondas are delicate.
@@xaverrogers4910 Guess you aren't aware of the massive Honda recall. That finally ended them. Too bad. Honda was overpriced but at least as good as anything K-Mart sold. A decent, mediocre brand. And just an hour ago at work a guy was complaining about his 5 year old push mower engine leaking oil real bad out of a cam seal. I said that's what you get for buying cheap. He said "Cheap? It's a Honda". Well that explains it. 🤣.
@@appleztooranges I would like to know if Honda oil is manufactured by someone else. Toyota branded oil is manufactured another company. Might be Mobil 1. Their filters are made by denzo
I’ve sort of been religious to engine oil.. I’ve always used Quaker state for my small engines. Pennzoil for my truck and valvoline for my wife’s SUV, this year for WHATEVER reason I’m having a heck of a time trying to find my Quaker state SAE30 for my walk behind edger and 10W-30 for my pressure washer up here in canada and all I can seem to find is the super tech for the SAE30 option… I notice you using the super tech brand in this video. Does it seem to work well for you and the things you put it in? I’m a little hesitant since it’s a Walmart value brand
I'm more religious than that. Every Sunday. BTW Supertech has always carried a reputation of being comparable to QS, before the internet and BTOG, I had heard it was QS.
This is totally off topic, but my old Honda mower is making a sound like it is running out of gas. I found out that my nephew took the initiative to cut the yard and grabbed the can with the weed eater oil/fuel mixture and poured it into the mower. Is it fixable or not? I tried to tip the machine over and empty the fuel and add new fuel, but to no avail, still makes the noise. Appreciate anyone with advice…
@@GarageGear thanks, that’s what I was wondering too. Managed to clean the best I could and cleaned the main jet out. Wasn’t able to get the emulsion tube out, but stuck a wire down the middle and sprayed some carb cleaner. Let’s hope that does the trick. Not really in the place, nor do I want to, buy a new one yet. Might have to, considering this machine is over 15yrs old. (Gcv160) 😬 Thanks again!
Hey Eric, I have a few questions for you. This isn’t normal. What kind of mower do you have and how old is it. Typically if your oil smells like gas and the oil is a bit more “watery” and not as slow to slosh around then it’s got an issue with fuel mixing in with the oil. Let me know.
I FIND THAT WITH MY NEW HONDA AND THE TIP METHOD ,I HAD TO TIP RIGHT IT, TIP, RIGHT, TIP SEVERAL TIMES TO GET IT MOSTLY ALL OUT, NOT SURE WH THE DIDNT ADD A DRAIN PLUG
I found this link! You may find some information here. www.lawnmowerforum.com/threads/switching-blades-from-a-hrn-model-to-the-hrx-model-blades.58853/?amp=1 thanks for watching!
@@js12278 uh oh! Hope the pain subsides! We have some frigid temps coming our way in the next day or so and rain today so I’m sure icy roads are in our forecast too.
You should be fine! Change it out before the season gets going and you’ll be all set. I’ve seen people go several years before their mower quits on them.
Wrong oil. That's for your car, which is water cooled. Lawn mower oil like Toro or Kawasaki or Amsoil small engine have Zinc which car oils do not have.
I’ve owned my Honda mower for 10 years. I just changed the oil. 😂😂😂 Doesn’t seem like it matters much. And this video is useless as it doesn’t show how to put oil back and make sure it’s correct.
I am not mechanically inclined, and I tend to not do things with mowers, etc., properly. I just saw this video. My new Honda went about 8 hours, and I realize that is too much. I will change this oil asap. Thank you.
You got it David! Basic oil changes go a long way toward making your machine last! Thanks for watching!
Great tip on the 30min. break-in oil. The 5 hour oil change is a must. I can't tell you how many people never change out the initial oil. I think they have the mentality of if their car can go 3000k miles surely the lawnmower/snowblower can go hundreds of hours. Then they can't understand when they have engine problems.
I totally agree my friend! See lots making this mistake. Hopefully these videos can help some people out and prevent any engine issues for them! What’s new in your garage lately?
@Mimi Mumu once the engine is broken-in I change the oil every 25 hours or once a year depending on the amount of runtime of that season.
@@smallblock412was thinking about changing the oil about 25 hrs but I changed my mind. I do it at 15 hrs, considering that the oil will darken quickly at the 10 hrs mark. I prefer mineral engine oils, they're cheap and a few oil change will ensure that there are no metal debris in the engine, oil is cheap, engines aren't.
Great idea on 30 m oil change. Mine was pretty clean. I think I would return my mower if it was as black as yours.
Keep up great videos.
@@K-zq6tp thanks for watching my friend!
Most of my retail career was spent at an Ace Hardware store with a large power equipment sales and service department. We sold lots of Hondas, some years more than others...anywhere from 100 to 200 Honda walks annually, and I assembled plenty of them. Honda walks come with a 12 ounce bottle of Honda 10w-30 oil, and that oil is a clear oil with a hint of brown color to it. Running a new lawn mower engine for five hours will turn that oil dark grey/brown, so, there are plenty of contaminants from the manufacture process. Its almost surprising, but factual. So, follow the maintenance recommendations of the manufacturer to have a good ownership experience. Keeping the engine oil clean and at the "full" mark, along with a clean air filter and fresh, stabilized unleaded fuel, will give you trouble-free performance and many years of service. No maintenance, or lack of maintenance, are engine killers.
Spot on my friend!
When I change the oil in my power equipment, I add BG MOA. If the crankcase takes 13 ounces of oil, I substitute 2 ounces of MOA for oil. It runs smoother and quieter. 11 ounces of Full Synthetic Oil and 2 ounces of MOA, a perfect mix. Oil comes out smoother that with full synthetic only. 3:30
Thanks for sharing eric!
Thanks for this. I changed it at about 20 minutes. Good call.
You got it vreeland 👍
Thanks for the video, I just changed the oil in my lawnmower.👌
Nice! Now you’re ready for the next mow!
Initial/break-in oil changes are vital on any and every ICE!
Now here's the kicker... in this case it's 12-13 oz's of oil so an oil change cost per your example (Walmart full synthetic appx: $20/5 qts) works out to appx: $1.50/oil change...at that price why not change it after every mow! 😜
@@svgs650r I like your math svgs!
Enjoyed the video. A bit off topic but....Let's say you snagged a nice mower off a tree lawn, took it home and got it running after a few minutes of carb cleaning etc. I've been thinking about doing an immediate oil change and putting a couple of oz of Marvel Mystery Oil in the oil, and then the gas. Then use it maybe 5 more hours then changing the oil again. I'm betting the MMO would help clean a bunch of sludge out of the crank case. Thoughts????
Even just only a second oil change would do it justice! The other stuff couldn’t hurt!
How about a vid on how to clean the carb on this beast, due to a surging engine/rough idle? Please, of course!!
I’ll see what I can do!
Have you ever heard of or use DSX extra that modifies friction and helps engines last longer by letting them run cooler and more efficiently?
Hey back in service, I have not heard of this! Could you please link any information on this by any chance. I’d appreciate it. Thank you very much and thanks for watching!
@@GarageGear This is the details. www.dsxproducts.com/dsx-extra/ if you call the cell number on the page, he can fill you in on all the uses, including in a semi for over a million miles without piston wear, formula 1 and nascar vehicles, and other heavy duty uses to reduce heat and friction. even simple things like fishing reels and air compressors work better. I have used it in my vehicles personally, on an old van that went from 23 mpg to 26.4 mpg. anyway, I appreciate your zeal to take care of equipment and make it last.
@@DefensorFortis thanks for sharing my friend! I appreciate it!
Great video JB. Thank you!!
Thanks Regular Car Guy! Even in the off season I’m working my mowers lol! Never a dull moment in the garage! What are you working on lately?
What do you tnink of plastic camshafts? Sounds mad, but I've not heard of one failing.
I’ll have to look more into them!
Is it still good idea to buy honda lawnmower in sep 2024 ? Or go with battery?
Grab a Honda!
I was asking the same question 2 weeks ago. Just bought a HRN216 off the internet from Acme Tools for under $600 before tax. Lowe’s may be cheaper “if” you can find one there.
@@kross1261Lowe’s doesn’t have any
Once a year, try every 5 years using 5W-30 Amsoil. But for the new Honda I'll suggest to our son to change it every 2-3yrs. Synthetic oil can take quite a beating.
Thanks for sharing Jay! 👍👍👍👍
I use Amsoil Small Engine 10W-30 in my Honda GCV160 lawnmower engine, 2 Honda generators and a Honda powered power washer. I change the oil in all them annualy. My owner's manual for all these engines ask for 10W30. Jay, does your manual specify 5W30?
@@cwqrpportable thanks for sharing
Good news US citizens, the STIHL 655 mower is now out in the United States. I will be using mine in a week, 3/25/24. We”ll see how the KHOLER engine does over time.
Thanks for sharing my friend
Garage gear two question
1) What is the contraption you use to hold the engine stopper to keep the engine running ?
2) Where can I find ethanol free fuel ? or can I use regular gasoline ?
Hey Zep! Here is the link to the strap wrenches I used. You can google ethanol free near me and you should be able to find some of that gas near you. Regular gas will work just don’t leave it sitting inside over time. 👍 thanks for watchingamzn.to/3TMJqUG
@@GarageGear link did not come through
@@zephyrvinay should work now give her a shot
JB, getting ready to go buy Honda HRX21K6VKA, or should I get the one you have?
Hey Dr. Arnold! The hex will have slightly more power and a Sturdy plastic deck! Both cut great and very similarly. If you have a slightly bigger yard go for the HRX! If you have any other questions just let me know! Thanks for watching my friend!
Suppose I receive my new honda hrn216 this morning, fill it with fuel and the oil. Should I let the lawnmower run and wait 30 minutes without mowing the yard? Or it is ok if I mow the yard grass then change the oil after 30 minutes? There is any risk i do this?
You can mow with it and change the oil out after 30 minutes!
@@GarageGear thank you!
Excellent video. Thanks
Rock on Rob!!! Definitely happy that I did that break in oil change at the 30 minute mark! Thanks for watching my friend!
Hey JB love the videos, quick question to make sure I understand. Do a 30 min. run, then change the oil. After I change the oil, I leave that new oil sitting for five hours running alone or just sitting without it running before I use it or the first time? From my understanding, after my first 30 min change, I am suppose to then leave it sitting for another 5 hours before using. Thanks for the help!
Thanks Kalifornia Kiing! Allow me to explain. Fill the machine up with the oil they give you. Run it for 30 minutes. Change the oil. Then just use the mower as normal for the next 5 hours. Change the oil for the second time at the 5 hour mark. And then you can go on a normal oil changing routine about every 20-30 hours or once a season. Hope this helps my friend!
@@GarageGear thank you so much for taking the time out to respond to me! I understand 100% thank you once again!!
Just did my first oil change and it had 16 oz in it and asked for 12. Kind of weird. All I did was add the 12 oz that it came with so the factory must have already had 4 in. Same model as yours
I hear about these odd situations from time to time. Just make sure the oil level is right with the dipstick and you’re good to go.
Be sure to *not* screw in the dip stick when checking oil level. The owner's manual says to just set it in and pull back out to check. Otherwise you will not have enough oil in the mower.
Thanks for the tip
They don't make things like they used to. I gave my 25 year old Toro Recycler (B&S) its first oil change at 8 years old. Heavy and dusty use on a large property too. Gave it one more at 17 years old. Maybe it's due for it's 3rd change now? 🤔. I guess these Hondas are delicate.
Definitely don’t make thing like they used to!
toro is chevrolet BandS garbage compared even 160 honda
@@xaverrogers4910 Guess you aren't aware of the massive Honda recall. That finally ended them. Too bad. Honda was overpriced but at least as good as anything K-Mart sold. A decent, mediocre brand. And just an hour ago at work a guy was complaining about his 5 year old push mower engine leaking oil real bad out of a cam seal. I said that's what you get for buying cheap. He said "Cheap? It's a Honda". Well that explains it. 🤣.
Do you use anything special to clean out the drain pan after? New to tinkering and I’m assuming it doesn’t get hosed down the storm sewer. Lol
@@darrenk3433 I pour it into a container and recycle it at AutoZone. I then wipe out the container with paper towels.
Shoukd I switch from Honda oem oil to this synerhic oil that you use?
Been running it in my machines for decades! Small engine mechanic approved!
@@GarageGear cheaper than Honda oil I bet
@@appleztooranges I would like to know if Honda oil is manufactured by someone else. Toyota branded oil is manufactured another company. Might be Mobil 1. Their filters are made by denzo
Thank you 🙏
You got it! 👍
I feel like the 30min oil break in is great, but could improve by actually mowing some lawn and putting load on the machine. Maybe
Possibly! I just did this for demonstration purposes! Thanks for watching!
yo they make the hour meter in red to match the honda cover. is the install the same on the HRX217?
Hey CTC! Yep saw that! I would say it’s got to be pretty similar. Thanks for watching
I just bought a HRX 217 replacing a 25 year old HR 215
Thanks for sharing
Nice informative video 👊
Thanks for watching kev!
I’ve sort of been religious to engine oil.. I’ve always used Quaker state for my small engines. Pennzoil for my truck and valvoline for my wife’s SUV, this year for WHATEVER reason I’m having a heck of a time trying to find my Quaker state SAE30 for my walk behind edger and 10W-30 for my pressure washer up here in canada and all I can seem to find is the super tech for the SAE30 option… I notice you using the super tech brand in this video. Does it seem to work well for you and the things you put it in? I’m a little hesitant since it’s a Walmart value brand
Hey Tanner! No issues on my end! Been using it for years! It meets or exceeds all API standards! Thanks for watching
I'm more religious than that. Every Sunday. BTW Supertech has always carried a reputation of being comparable to QS, before the internet and BTOG, I had heard it was QS.
thanks !
Thanks for watching
This reminds me... I'm about due for an oil change on my Ego mower! 👍
Lol maybe I should do a video on that soon… you know… just to help you ego mower owners out! Lol 👍👍
@@GarageGear 😂
This is totally off topic, but my old Honda mower is making a sound like it is running out of gas. I found out that my nephew took the initiative to cut the yard and grabbed the can with the weed eater oil/fuel mixture and poured it into the mower. Is it fixable or not? I tried to tip the machine over and empty the fuel and add new fuel, but to no avail, still makes the noise. Appreciate anyone with advice…
Hey jess i would try giving the carburetor a cleaning. That way you could rule the carb out if that doesn’t seem to fix it.
@@GarageGear thanks, that’s what I was wondering too. Managed to clean the best I could and cleaned the main jet out. Wasn’t able to get the emulsion tube out, but stuck a wire down the middle and sprayed some carb cleaner. Let’s hope that does the trick. Not really in the place, nor do I want to, buy a new one yet. Might have to, considering this machine is over 15yrs old. (Gcv160) 😬 Thanks again!
@@jessm1638 let me know how she works out
@@GarageGear ran real well! No surging and managed to mow the front and back yard… appreciate your help!
@@jessm1638 awesome! Glad you got it running well! 👍
I have the same model. So 12oz of oil is plenty or should I do the max at 13.5?
Start with 12 and check the dip stick. If you need more then just add some! Thanks for watching R2!
Its the first mower ive ever owned, so i watched this video and my used oil smelled like gas. Is that normal?
Hey Eric, I have a few questions for you. This isn’t normal. What kind of mower do you have and how old is it. Typically if your oil smells like gas and the oil is a bit more “watery” and not as slow to slosh around then it’s got an issue with fuel mixing in with the oil. Let me know.
you prob forgot to turn the fuel shut off valve before you tipped the mower over.
This reminds me... I'm about due for an oil change on my Ego mower!
Better get on it! Don’t want that sitting in there all winter lol 😉 thanks for watching Lisa!
Why 5w-30 vs. 10w-40 for summer?
5w-30 full synthetic for me fits best in my climate’s temperature range. Been using it for decades! Thanks for watching Peter!
I FIND THAT WITH MY NEW HONDA AND THE TIP METHOD ,I HAD TO TIP RIGHT IT, TIP, RIGHT, TIP SEVERAL TIMES TO GET IT MOSTLY ALL OUT, NOT SURE WH THE DIDNT ADD A DRAIN PLUG
Yeah a few tips may be necessary’s I’ve seen this on a few different mowers over the years. Thanks for watching woof!
Why 5w-30? I thought it called for 10w-30?
You can read in the instruction manual as well that the oil has a better temperature range. Thanks for watching.
Does anyone know if the HRX blades fit a HRN?
I found this link! You may find some information here. www.lawnmowerforum.com/threads/switching-blades-from-a-hrn-model-to-the-hrx-model-blades.58853/?amp=1 thanks for watching!
@@GarageGear awesome thank you!
Damn..5 hrs..I haven't changed mine in 11 yrs..lol
I’d say maybe you’re due for one lol
@@GarageGear lol!!
appreciate the video but you sound like a Professional wrestling announcer
Thanks for watching blink!
I went like 30-40 hrs on first oil smh
Been there before long ago! Thanks for watching
My EGO mower manual didn’t have a section in it regarding oil changes. 😁
Hahaha bet that manual is missing a few pages on engine maintenance lol! 👍👍👍 how’s your week been my friend?
@@GarageGear dealing with icy roads and a toothache. All 😊 good
@@js12278 uh oh! Hope the pain subsides! We have some frigid temps coming our way in the next day or so and rain today so I’m sure icy roads are in our forecast too.
dawg i ran 30 hours on this oil 🤦🏽
You should be fine! Change it out before the season gets going and you’ll be all set. I’ve seen people go several years before their mower quits on them.
Me too 🙈
Wrong oil. That's for your car, which is water cooled. Lawn mower oil like Toro or Kawasaki or Amsoil small engine have Zinc which car oils do not have.
Thanks for sharing
I use Amsoil Small Engine 10W30
Diesel engine oils do. Diesel engine oils are perfect for Deutz air cooled diesel engine
I’ve owned my Honda mower for 10 years. I just changed the oil. 😂😂😂
Doesn’t seem like it matters much. And this video is useless as it doesn’t show how to put oil back and make sure it’s correct.
@@mega408 thanks for watching
The Honda commercial recommends the first oil change @ 20 hours
Thanks for sharing
Good lord this guy is annoying. Unwatcheable.
@@bikes7777 thanks for watching
Great video JB. Thank you!!
Thanks for watching christoffer! ROCK ON my friend! 👍