Honda's Newest HRN216 Mower in 2023: Good? Bad? Ugly?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.ค. 2024
- More of a technical review, not an unboxing. Honda has made lots of changes to their latest residential mowers: the HRN216 sold in many big box stores. This review for 2023 walks you through all the latest and greatest changes, both the Good, the Bad, & the Ugly. If you haven't seen theses mowers yet in your shop, rest assured you will soon.
00:00 I'm not Blondie
00:45 Mower deck and oil filler tube
01:34 Fuel filler and top shroud
04:03 Control cables
04:33 Carburetor and airbox
05:33 Wheels
07:28 Transmission
07:57 Handle bar storage
08:43 Carburetor gaskets
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Here's how to change the drive belt of this mower: th-cam.com/video/lsNDo2Ywnlk/w-d-xo.html
Super creative regardless! Top notch!
To The Lawnmower Lady: I was impressed that you mentioned that the cover came off with a single JIS screw and that you used a Vessel screwdriver which is made to JIS standards as they are the company that pioneered the standard. Most people don't realize that this is not a Phillips head at all. So, thanks for letting literally thousands of people be exposed to this fact which is not commonly known. Also, many have a tough time removing the hold down screws on Honda automobile rotors. They strip out easily because most people don't know that they are built to JIS standards (now known as DIN 5260 standards which replaced JIS standards years ago). I made the switch and haven't looked back since. JIS/DIN 5260 can replace Phillips but Phillips cannot replace JIS/DIN 5260. Vessel is a top brand as is Wera. I will never buy another Phillips screwdriver again and have given most of my Phillips screwdrivers away already. Thanks for the great content.
I appreciate you watching. I wish I knew about JIS screwdrivers 15 years ago when I was stripping out all those brake reservoir screws on motorcycles. LOL Cheers!
@@TheLawnmowerLady Thanks for your thoughtful reply. Really enjoyed you going the extra step with the good, the bad, and the ugly motiff. I wish I knew about them 48 years ago when I got my first Honda motorbike. I had no idea what those dimples on the screwhead meant. I have stripped and drilled out my fair share of Honda automobile rotor screws in my day because I didn't know about JIS at the time. I happened to be looking on TH-cam in anticipation of changing out the brakes on my friend's Mazda 6 when I ran across a short video in which the man explained why people such as myself were having difficulty with the rotor screws. Believe me, I paid attention. I studied your video and learned quite a bit as my brother is thinking of buying this same lawn mower. Kudos for all of your hard work.
I'm a multi-degreed OG powertrain engineer who has been wrenching on small engines for decades. This was an impressive overview. I love listening to experienced people who tell you the important aspects of a product. Awesome. 👍🏻
Thank you very much! I appreciate you watching. Cheers!
WOW! Educational, informative, entertaining, great video....👍
Thank you Mr Steve! 👍 Cheers!
You got Steve approval! Damn lol.
Outstanding demonstration of how a product review is to be done! There were no faults in anything you did or said, keep up the great job.
Much appreciated Mr Jeffrey! I appreciate you watching!
I appreciate your last video on changing the belt. It's the only one on the internet worth watching!!! For the belt part I also could not locate the "correct" one, but 22431-VH7-K00 was a perfect fit and has worked flawlessly
Glad you found that Mr Brad. I searched for a while, even on the phone
to attempt to determine what the actual dimensions were to substitute. There are some other numbers in the "description" 39.3 or something? Never figured out if those other numbers described any dimension or what. I appreciate you watching!
Now this is a great video Stella! You just keep getting better and better. I am inspired!
You're the best Sgt. I appreciate you watching!
Just bought the HRN yesterday. Glad i chose Honda this time, it's a great residential mower.
Honda makes good quality mowers for sure. Thanks for watching!
Now *that’s* a review! Thank you!
Thanks for watching. Cheers!
I’ve had that mower for about two years now, I have no complaints. It’s a lot lighter than my older HRR216 and it’s a lot more maneuverable. It all comes down to the maintenance you provide. Treat your mower casually and it will become a casualty! Thanks for the vid., 👍👍
You're right about that Mr Tony! Cheers!
Tony M , well I had an older MTD I bought used years ago. The engine was fine but the hardware was junk, so bought a new HRN216. I realize the Honda is a bagger and self-propelled, but it's big and heavy, I think too much for a smaller lawn. I cannot imagine how heavy your old one must have been.
Same here. Still love this mower!🥰
Thank you for showing how the wheels come off . Very good video , thank you .
Glad to help. Cheers!
Very detailed and comprehensive overview 👍👍👍
I appreciate you watching!
I have just bought a 216 and this was a very good explanation of the workings. Thank you, Lawnmower Lady.
Glad it was helpful! Cheers 🥂
great intro and review thanks Stella
Thank you kindly Mr Mark! Cheers!
Nice video stella very informative loved it thank you
You’re welcome Mr Edward 😊
Very informative video Clint nice to see love how you no so much only bit you didn't say was the green knob on the Dec brilliant video x
Thanks Mr Gary! That green knob controls the mulch baffle on the under side of the deck. In retrospect, I guess I skipped over it as it was not much different than on previous mowers. Cheers!
this was very informative, I appreciate this video.
Glad it was helpful Mr IHG! Cheers!
Nice! Gave me some great laughs - Cheers Stella!
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Glad you enjoyed it Anders! Cheers!
Very nice review on the Honda HRN216 Mower. Thanks for sharing this information with us. 👍🏼👍🏼🙂🙂
I appreciate you watching. Cheers!
I just got this lawnmower today. And I love it. So much easier to mow my hilly yard now.
Awesome Ms Donna! Cheers!
I just bought my first Honda also. Love it!
LOL The good the bad and the Ugly. I can see the shroud cracking. I like the nut removal on the carb. The old ratchets seized when dry. Good call. Thanks for the bowl seal hint.
Yep, Mr Bruce, I can't retire my M6 studs yet. Maybe some day. I appreciate you watching. Cheers!
Very nice video and review Stella Eastwood, you made me laugh with the intro. 🤣👍
Glad you enjoyed it Mr John! 😀
Thank ya ma'm
Just purchase my HRN216 over the weekend. Love it
It's a good mower for sure. Thanks for watching. Cheers!
Awesome!!! 🇺🇸💀🔧🔩🔥🔩🔧💀🇺🇸
First off I love Clint Eastwood!I haven't worked on one of those yet,but I do like the fact they went to studs and you don't have to take off all the baffles to change transmission.
Those are some positive changes Mr JB. I just hate they cheaped out on the wheels. Most Hondas push like a dream, these won't last. Cheers!
@@TheLawnmowerLady I guess they have to cut corners somewhere!
I love your opening as you start video
Thanks
Thanks, I try to have a little bit of fun every now and then. Cheers!
Nice job!
No idea what you’ve been talking about, to busy laughing at the intro. Superb😂😂😂
😅 LOL
TY for illustrating how the engine shroud comes off.
I appreciate you watching. Cheers!
Great video. Thanks
I appreciate you watching. Cheers!
Thanks for the info
Thanks for watching. Cheers!
Debating on upgrading my Honda hrr216vka to the hrx217 with Nextel mastic deck. Thanks for making this video and posting on my Reddit Honda mower page!
I really appreciate this. Thanks! I try not to be pushy in promoting my vids on Reddit, but try my best to add to the conversation in a meaningful way. Cheers!
@@TheLawnmowerLady awesome! I’m more into snowblowers but been collecting everything Honda. I’ll watch your video on changing belts
Loved your video, great sense of humor, with the Clint stunt. And exactly what I needed for buying one of these for my son, who just moved out. Too bad about the cheesy missing wheel bearings, and cable but maybe some lithium grease or needle bearing instead of the bushing could beef that up like the old Toro's have in them.
That certainly won't hurt. I appreciate you watching. Cheers!
Super review Clint 🙂
Thanks Mr Claus! 👍 have you seen these newer mowers in Denmark yet?
Yes Ive got a few customers running these engines
Love the video. Hate the tabs holding the lid on. I bought one a few weeks back and it took me 5 minutes to figure out how it was held together and another 5 because the tabs didn't want to let go. The motor did run pretty sweet though.
Yep Mr Bill, I fiddled with a while, then decided it would make a good video. Mr Bruce mentioned he though the shroud would get cracked easily. He's right. Cheers!
Thank you! So no side discharge? I am worried about undercarriage build-up of clippings cuz I prefer to mulch bagless. Thoughts?
That’s a huge design flaw IMO. Lots of folks report derailed drive belts with the smallest amount of debris. Thanks for watching.
Love the intro 😂😂😂 great video 😊
Thank you!! 😁
For me in gas power mowers it's always Toro, I've been in my home just over 40 years and I'm still on my second Toro. 1st one was 26 years old and the one I have now is still in use.
You're right mr Tommy. Toro has been a premium brand over the years. They did outsource some of their lower end residential mowers to MTD a while back. Almost any mower purchased more than 10-12 years ago is a far superior machine to what is generally available on the market today. Thanks for watching!
@@TheLawnmowerLady great video
Yeah my Toro recycler purchased at HD 25 years ago has really impressed me. I'm sure the new models don't go nearly that long.
The HRN216 GCV170 engine series replaced the HRR216 GCV160 engine series. The HRX is the next tier up with GCV200 engine. Just bought the HRN216VKA recently and very happy with it. Mowers shouldn't be stored outside exposed to the weather; if there is no garage or shed, it should at least be kept covered. Do the minimal maintenance on them with oil and filter changes, blade sharpening, and use STA-BIL in the gas, and they'll run well for many years. The Honda replaced a 15 year old Craftsman with B&S engine that still runs OK with very minimal maintenance (made by Husqvarna for Sears). Showing its age though and parts - other than the B&S engine - are mostly discontinued. Wouldn't buy a new Craftsman though (junk). IMO, the Honda HRN and HRX are among the best residential gas mowers.
I've been a Honda fan for many years. Too bad they had to cut some corners to stay competitive. Thanks for watching. Cheers!
BTW love your law'nOrder content... Keep em coming 👌😎
Thanks! Will do Ms Bea!
I love this mower, maintain it, and it will last for years and years. I luckily have the ideal storage situation and keep up on my maintenance. As far as the wheels go, I'm sure they'll last just as long as most of the residential ones will, maybe longer. I've always popped my wheels off and spray a little lithium grease on them anyway once a year. Rust ain't much of an issue with proper storage and maintaining the deck. Usually treat any rust right away (havn't had any), cutting wet grass clean... it off right after and run it to dry it out, and spraying some fluid film on the underside in those wet situations help.
Thanks for watching. This same mower just came back to me, and I'm sad to report, the front wheels are very wobbly. And the rear drive wheels almost smooth. There's a lot to like about this mower, and it sounds like you take care of it well.
@@TheLawnmowerLady No problem, definitely good content. I do some small engine repair on the side myself. I still keep my old mtd with a old school 3.5hp flat head briggs in storage as a backup. My first as a home owner, I retired it for the honda after about 10 years. Just way underpowered for the grass and got tired of the fuel boiling in the gas tank in the summer heat. So far no complaints so far and I've had the electric start version since they introduced them.
All I can say is, stop mowing wet grass.
@@joetroutt7425 My days off work may require it. Flip it, spray it off with a hose, dry it and whatever lube I have handy, think I used wd40 the last time because it was right there. Comes down to how you treat the equipment.
If you do minimal yearly maintenance of your 216...for the vast majority of owners, there is no 'ugly' only super reliable and an awesome mower..and no very expensive batteries to buy ever :)
Honestly, this video is refreshing.
I appreciate you watching. Cheers!
Extremely well put together video Stella, time to move over Taryl there is a new sheriff in town and her name is not Big John!
Haha! Thanks Mr Wayne! I couldn't fill those shoes. I appreciate you watching.
Nice! I really appreciate the tips and tricks. I have yet to work on one of these models and would have been lost without your help. My only question is, was that an NGK spark plug? And did it taste like rice?
LOL ! I honestly don't remember, I think it's the normal NGK BPR5ES. Cheers!
Sometimes after I do extensive research while shopping for a new lawn mower. I get so overwhelmed and confused. When I think I found one that I can afford and use. I'll also find informative vids like yours that change my mind lol. It's a good thing and I thank you for exposing some things that matter to me! Because the manufacture or big box stores won't show it. What I'm shopping for is a Self Propel Rear Wheel Drive, gas, 22" or 21" cut, rubber wheels preferably, strong engine for less than a 1/2 acre lot, mulcher, bagger, variable speed preferably, and NOT that personal pace thingy Toro has on their mowers. That just doesn't make any sense or look right to me. I have an old Craftsman 190cc, RWD, 7.00 torque, model #ended in74541. Bagger torn and cant get a replacement anywhere. And the self propel works half the time. This thing was beast for 11yrs. Now everything is so damn expensive!!
I hear ya! If you can still find the HRX models, I should consider that. With the exception of the engine itself (it is the newer GCV 170/200 version like this mower) it maintains most of the better characteristics the the HRN line omitted for cost savings. Ball bearing wheels, better control cables, better drive belt baffle to keep debris from fouling the belt, lightweight yet durable poly deck, etc. Even though Honda will cease producing push mowers this year (maybe next, I forget), they are a far superior machine, and should have plentiful parts supplies well into the future. Hope this helps. Cheers!
Yep it’s unreal even for parts now
great video.. i was wondering if you've found any solution to the rubber boots for the cables? usable parts from other mowers parts catalogues that will fit ?
Unfortunately no, they are an integral part of the outer cable system, and get threaded onto the cables before the cable ends are terminated. Thanks for watching.
@@TheLawnmowerLady that's a shame .. but you keep up the great work
Great video. Still love my HRX 😎
That's a good mower Mr Jonathan! Thanks for watching!
Hi can i use this stud in this model in HRX217 INSTEAD OF BOLT for the carburator
Absolutely will work to assist with assembling all the gaskets and spacers. If you mean permanently, they probably should be shorter. Thanks for watching.
My coworkers say the same thing. I feel bad because I recommend the new HRN over Toro TO SOON! The more and more I used this $600 over engineered machine, I noticed an uneven cut pattern after mowing, along with my coworkers plus MANY online reviews confirmed my same observations. "This lawn mower leaves several un-cut grass blades" same goes for the old HRR model, but not as noticeable. I called Honda customer support, and they recommend that I lower the deck and make shorter cutting swath. At this point I reverted back to mowing with my old HRR and put the HRN in timeout.
I honestly think they cut too many corners on this new model. There are some good things, but too many cost cutting IMO. ex: no baffles or guards for the belt travel. Thanks for watching.
I totally agree with you, I can tell you know your stuff. The new HRN is definitely more cost effective to manufacture and even with her new hiccups the HRN is still far more superior to your "Walmart Special" or any MTD rebrand product. I'm not a fan of the new single front and rear wheel axle adjustment but like you said Hondas plastic is pretty legit, and what I really dislike the most is new push rod engine design, Honda really set themselves apart with their signature "Overhead Cam" engine, I mean it had a freaking timing belt!!! I thought that was so unique for a single cylinder engine. When it's all said and done, I still like my Hondas but recently I only recommend TORO to friends and family.
@@dadsworkshopbykipplabrie7982 I’ll be interesting to see the insides of one of these newer GCV engines. No doubt, removing the timing belt mechanism accounted for a good deal of their parts reduction on this engine design. I’ve got three videos on this mower. All from the same owner, over about a six month period. The wheels are already wallowed out and wobbly on the front. The rears are not far beyond I suspect, even with that bushing in there. At least the HRR series still had bearings in the wheels.
I wonder is there a wheel set you can change out and then have wheel bearings all around? I have this mower but without the drive system.
Maybe? Should be an easy swap without worrying about the gear design. The wheels look similar in size to the HRC Commercial Mower front wheels.
Can you check the parts illustration to see if they put a oil seal on governor arm where it comes out of engine
I'm not sure, and can't look it on this phone. 😂 Lol. But I can tell you, if you overfill the GCV 160 engine past where the governor control goes in oil will leak out there. I'm assuming there's not a seal, since they cut down so many parts on this engine redesign
I was expecting a cameo appearance from Clint Eastwood! Nice job Stella of reviewing the Honda. Lots of improvement to the engine area. I love Hondas to flip. If i owned a Honda mower and didnt have a place to store it out of the weather, for what those mowers cost , i would store it in the living room! Lol. Stay safe Stella.👍🔧🇺🇸Roger
Thanks Mr Roger! 👍 I appreciate your watching. Cheers!
I think a grill cover for 15 used/$30 new and maybe weatherize the high end of the cables, at least some red+tacky + a squirt of rtv
How change the transmission on lower mover GVC 170
th-cam.com/video/lsNDo2Ywnlk/w-d-xo.html This video is how to change the belt. I hope this helps. Thanks for watching.
Can you do 2022 hrx217 models review like this! Thanks for the info
Only if someone brings me one to fix 😁
@@TheLawnmowerLady how far you live from Massachusetts lol
At 7:45 u show a diagram of the transmission assembly. On that diagram top right, part designated as 3, the connects to the spring marked 8.... what does that piece 3 attach to.... got everything apart to change the belt but when I unhooked the spring from the transmission It came out with that 3 piece and I couldn't figure out where it attached to..🤷♂️ Any help would be great.
My boss wants to finish mowering her lawn and I'm not trying to buy her a new lawn mower..🤦♂️
Thanks
If you’re referring to that folded flat metal bracket, you’ll find a slot, almost impossible to see, but that’s where the bracket fits in. The spring tension holds it in place. Hope this helps.
@@TheLawnmowerLady
Thanks darlin'...
Hopefully I can knock this off my charitable help gone wrong todo list today and focus on not mowing my own lawn for once, LoL...🤦♂️
Have a good morning and enjoy the rest of your day..💯
What MM are we using for the wheels on the HRN 216
12mm maybe? I honestly don't remember, this mower is long gone. Thanks for watching!
Thank you for sharing with us this Honda it does have the good the bad and ugly but I am a fan of how to take the carburetor off with that engine 😀
Me too Mr John! Cheers!
@@TheLawnmowerLady cheers
AWESOME
Thank you! Cheers!
It's disappointing that they went away from the composite deck. I am sure the engine will be great. Thanks for the review.
I agree. Thanks for watching. Cheers!
The did NOT go away from the composite decks, this is the lower model. They still make the HRX series with the composite decks. This is the lower model the HRN.
Enjoyed the video. I thought a lot about it and decided to buy the HRN. Reason being you won't be able to get anymore of them when they are sold out. Is it a perfect mower? No. The lack of bushings in the front wheels is irritating. But even a less than perfect Honda is still one heck of a great lawn mower. I still have my 11-year-old Husqvarna with Honda motor. Just replaced wheels, dust cover, blade adapter, belt, and blade. It's running real nice. But all of the parts are showing their age. Honda really made some great products. Hoping my two Honda powered mowers will get me to the finish line of my lawn mowing career.
I appreciate you watching. Just keep an eye on the oil level. The newer engine design reduced the oil sump by about 4oz. Cheers!
Great video …. 🌅👸🏽
Thank you! Cheers!
I absolutely love mine, best mower I've ever owned
Keep the right amount of oil in it, and you hopefully will get long life from the engine. Thanks for watching.
@@TheLawnmowerLady I have one and I like it but Honda has taken these off the market
@@royhobbs785 Yep! On some models there is some issue with (I think?) the ACR.
Those are nice mowers just alot of money was looking at them yesterday at lowes...
They are a bit on the pricey side. Thanks for watching Mr Thomas!
Big up from Scotland. I have the 2016 model
Thanks! I appreciate you watching. Cheers! Or I should say Slàinte Mhath!
Thank you Stella, nice review on the newer Honda.
I’m not too keen on the newer model due to not being aluminium and one blade system.
I think you meant to say Pablo in the intro😀🇦🇺
G-day Mr Rick! I think this one had the dual blades? This was a model purchased at a big box store. It's truly a beast with that steel deck. Cheers!
@@TheLawnmowerLady was looking at specs looks like one blade with another two attached, the older models of Honda 196 had 4 blade system😀
Funny enough the new decks are made of a material called NeXite on that resists breaking and doesn’t rust a lighter weight material.
@@TheLawnmowerLady current models have a blade off system which stops the blades 3 seconds after you let go of the handle/bar
I believe Clint Eastwood characters name was "Blondie"...
Thank you for the tips...Love this channel!!😊❤️
Yes! Thank you!
I’m getting white smoke on start up. Only lasts a few seconds and clears up. Otherwise it runs great. Any idea on the smoke?
Maybe mower might have been turned on its side the wrong way? White smoke is usually excess oil in the wrong places burning off, or over filled oil in the crankcase. Check the oil level, replace the air filter if it's saturated in oil. If you must get under the deck, it's best tilt the mower back on the handlebar. Worst case, turn the mower over with the air filter side up in the air, and the oil dipstick side towards the ground.
@@TheLawnmowerLady I changed the oil today and refilled with Honda 10W30. It only took about 10oz. for the dip stick to read full (not screwed in). The 12 ounces Honda requires for this engine actually overfills it. I also replaced the air filter which did not have any oil on it. Whatever the issue was, it started first pull without a trace of white smoke and runs like a top.
@@hammer3921 Yay! Glad you got it sorted out. Cheers!
I’ve seen some of these engines develop rod knock prematurely despite having perfect service records
Makes me wonder if the lesser amount of oil required contributes to that knock?
HRX and HRN are two different series that goes together. HRX is premium and HRN is entry level, so you can not say that the wheels are worse, because HRN is a different series, not a newer one. You can still buy HRX series
Hi!
I really like like listening to a woman explain this stuff!👍🏻👍🏻
My problem is the self propelled hootenanny sticks in the go mode! She don’t wanna stop when I let go off the handles 🤔🤔 other than that she’s running fine.
It’s a Honda GCV 160 AWD.
What day you?
Thanks! I sounds like something is snagging or restricting the cable. I've seen them bent completely in two when someone folds down the handle bars, and pinches the cable. make sure it's not kinked. After that, maybe something with the thumb lever mechanism? I appreciate you watching. Cheers!
You have a lot of experience. Is a Honda IZY the best option in the lower budget line? Greetings from Belgium.
I think they are a quality option for those in EU. They have basically shut down residential lawnmower production in N. America. They are (were) a far superior machine. It's a shame they shut down here. I appreciate you watching. Cheers!
Hi Lawnmower Lady. I am noticing wear on the rear wheels of my HRN216 mower. So, my question is Will rear wheels for a HRX216 mower fit/work on my mower? TIA!
I wish I knew. I do know the wheels on the HRX are better, with ball bearings. The real key is the gear on the inside, if that is the same. I know on older Honda mowers, you could just replace the tread on the wheel. No sure if that is an option here. Thanks for watching.
Great now I know how to remove the cover so I can get to the coil Thank you *****
Glad I could help
@@TheLawnmowerLady > Cheers From Sydney Australia
What fuel should I run in this mower? Just purchased one. Thank you
Ethanol free. If you are in US or Canada, go to pure-gas.org to find the closest station to you. Thanks for watching!
Thank you for the great review. What are thoughts between the HRN and the HRX model? Is it it worth it to move up to the next level? Thanks.
I believe the HRX model (at least from last year) still have some of the higher quality engineering -ball bearing wheels, better cables, etc., that were there before. The underside does not expose the belt like the HRN, and the composite deck is rock solid for plastics. Thanks for watching. Cheers!
@@TheLawnmowerLady Thanks for the feedback. Sounds like the HRX is the better bet. Have you had any experience with the commercial HRC version?
@@joeraptor1 my personal mower is an older Honda commercial mower. Much higher quality components.
@@TheLawnmowerLady Well said. I have a Toro commercial and you can't compare those to any homeowner model. I always wanted to try out the Honda commercial but there's a big jump in price and weight over the HRX versions.
How do you feel about the Honda gcv200 ?
Not sure yet. This engine has been redesigned with significantly fewer parts, less oil.
The father in law bent the crank on his 3 year old hrr216 so he got a new one like in your video and gave old one to me.
Whole new engine block on hrn. The crankcase opens on the too while the hrr splits in half diagonally.
Yep, total engine redesign, not always for the best either.
Clint,s Eastwood's character in the good bad and the ugly has no name
I'm glad you got the joke Mr Robert! Cheers!
Some of us slower viewers didn't Robert. 😩
@@Big_Johns okay 👍
You seem to be comparing it as if the HRN216 is a replacement for the HRX (which also had a larger version of the same new engine for the revamp) But the HRN is the entry level Honda (a few hundred $ cheaper) So it’s more of a replacement for the old steel decked HRR I guess. 🤷🏼♂️
I ended up getting the HRN216VYA (bladestop) version to backup my Timemaster. It’s a nice light mower…I’ve never regretted getting the bladestop version. Though it seems all the prices went up $100 since the start of the year…glad I went ahead and got one! Probably good for the repair business-lol
Thanks for watching. It's a good mower for some folks: those who will take care of it and how they mow. You're probably right about comparing it better to the HRR. (It has better wheels for sure) Cheers!
I have quite rugged and uneven terrain due to mole activity. Do you think think this mower can cut it? :) Or should i look for a mower with a stronger engine? And better quality wheels.
I think you should be fine. Any Honda mower is a better quality machine than most any other on the market today. Thanks for watching. Cheers!
I’d buy this used with 200 hours before I’d buy any other push mower brand new.
My number one choice hrx217vka (I have had one for 8 years love it).
My second choice is the mower this nice young lady is teaching us about.
@@americandude3825 the hrx 217 vke costs here in Slovenia, Europe about 1100 euros, roughly 1100 dollars. That is tpo much for a mower in my opinion.
Thanks Blondie
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Do you think starting is worst on these due to emissions? My 10 year old Honda hrr216 started first pull everytime. This new Honda hrx217 I bought takes 8-10 pulls to start it. I talked to Honda and they said it’s due to running it in temperature less than 50 deg ferenheit, it’ll make the mower harder yo start. I never had issues with my older one
I honestly don't know. Freezing weather yes, but 50deg? sounds fishy to me.
@@TheLawnmowerLady thanks. Also, how do you get gas stain off nexite deck on the Honda hrx217? Any advice?
Zach
@ApplezToOranges Absolutely no clue. I really only deal with the mechanics, and leave the cosmetic stuff to the experts 😹
And the Oscar goes to Ms. Stella, for her role in the good, the bad, and the ugly Honda. This was brought to you today by the word “fiddly”. When your watching the lawnmower lady and your wife’s new word after is fiddly! Lol… another great video my friend. Keep ‘em comin!
LOL mr Brian! 😂 I appreciate you watching. Cheers!
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Josey Wales...Oh my!
Do you think the older 8" wheels with the bearings will go on with no problems.. like the hrr series wheels?
That is a good question. The mower is back with its owner, so I can't really answer that. Maybe give it a try? Many shops have a lenient return policy if the parts don't fit. You might have to pay a small re-stocking fee. Thanks for watching! Edited to add: I got this mower back a few weeks ago for an oil change. The wheels were very wobbly already.
@@TheLawnmowerLady Home Depot sells the 8" wheels with bearings in stock.. I think I'm going to try them out.. Just not sure if the drive gear is the same or not. Maybe you can tell me.. I have mine on order and will be here this week brand new. Can't wait to try it.
@@bombidude please let us know. I’m sure others will want to know if they fit. Thanks!
So, did they fit?
I currently run (2) Honda HRX 217 HYA mowers. from 2021. They have gone cheap on the wheels, and they used to have tires, Now they are just "Skins" and after a while (Which is to soon for me) they fall off. Honda has made some positive improvements, (I have been running their mowers for about 33 years) but some of them are a hindrance rather than a help.
I agree! They's cut some corners, badly at that. Thanks for watching!
Is your hrx hard to start?
@@appleztooranges No. I have heard some of the models with the Auto Choke feature develop issues in a few years. My mowers start up on the first pull going into their third year of use. I do run ethanol free gas every time I use them. And drain the tank and carburetor bowl before I put them away for the Winter. Just bought another about a week ago since Honda will quit making them this year.
I bought one 2 months ago. First time out of the box, it took many pulls. Since then, every four or five starts if I have it running, then stop to empty bag, it takes a few pulls to restart. I thought, "its new, break in period". Now, chord gets jammed.... as in, "won't pull". Loathe this mower.
I'm sorry you are having troubles. If it's any consolation (probably not, I know), you are not alone. Thanks for watching.
So, to note some discrepancies in your video: The HRN series replaced the HRR series, which is mid to entry level machines, not the HRX series which is the premium residential models. The HRX series also gets this similar revision of engine being the GCV200 with the HRN's GCV170. Both the GCV170 and GCV200 engines revert back to a pushrod design instead of the cam in head design of other GCV and the GSV engines. This is all moot now due to the mower line stopping production this year in the US.
Thanks for watching.
can you buy older style wheels with the bearings and just put them on this mower?
I don't know if the drive sprocket is the same inside the rear wheels, but someone else here in the comments said they were ordering the wheels for an HRX from a big box store with a good return policy. I hope he chimes back in to tell us how they fit. Thanks for watching. Cheers!
The gx is available on the commercial model. Not exactly cheap but . .
It's more like the old school ones.
I honestly think money spent on a commercial mower is well spent.
I was called by a nice lady. She has hrn new in box..sat for a year in her garage in the box. After set up would not start....took carb off and all this nasty yellow gas came out..quick clean on carb fresh new non ethanol..fired up 1st pull. Electric start too..battery charges when running...
Good stuff! Thanks for watching.
I have this mower, it doesn't like dusty conditions or rough condition like I have in my front yard, lots of dust, acorns, leaves, debris even though I stay on top of it and rake several times a year. The belt is going off track and gets stuck and you lose the smart drive, I hate it. I had to replace the belt already three times in 2 years and it took me 1H30. Many users reported this issue on Honda website.
Yep, Honda really dropped the ball on this one. Sorry you are having so many problems, you are not alone. Thanks for watching. Cheers!
They have fallen down so far since the original HR21 series. On those original mowers from the early 80s they not only had proper sealed ball bearings in all the wheels but you could also change the rubber tires off the wheels when they wore out the treads.
I agree. I actually own an HR215 ( that I haven’t started since 2915) Great mower with blade clutch.
@@TheLawnmowerLady I'm talking about the HR21 and 21-5 original series of mowers from the late 70s early 80s.
Ahhh, yes. I replaced one of those with this HR215 back in 2000. It was gifted to me from my Dad, and I unfortunately let the oil get too low. It overheated and seized. Not knowing then, what I know now, I would have fixed it. I regret replacing it.
Woo-hoo 🐓👍
Thanks Mr Rooster!
Wonder if an HRX wheel will fit on an HRN?
I wish I knew. The front wheels are probably interchangeable, the rear ones, likely will have different drive gears. Thanks for watching.
@@TheLawnmowerLady Thanks for replying back!
This was a educational and entertaining video Stella. Is Honda still making the HRX and the HRC series of mowers?
Thanks Mr Bob! I’m not really sure. I’ve seen the HRX mowers on big bix store shelves. They might be left over back stock? Thanks for watching. Cheers!
They are still making the HRX models, I have a 2022 HRX217HYA
As far as the wheels not having bearing's is concerned the Chinese will probably come out with a knockoff version pretty soon. Let's just hope it has quality bearings. Then again if it becomes an issue or enough people complain about it Honda might address the issue as well. I've had a chance to use mine a few times now and really like the mower 😊
Interestingly, the bearing weren’t even quality bearings. Just the cheap bearings common on wheel barrows, etc. I can’t imagine they were saving more than a few cents per wheel. I appreciate you watching! Cheers!
So those metal inserts on carb cover are gone? OK. My Subaru power washer 175 has studs. But the metal inserts are still there. And yep they do fall out
They sort of waffle about on the commercial mowers, but this is the first I've seen on a residential mower. Thanks for watching!
Biggest changes for me would be the engines are no longer OHC. no more timing belt. OHV. Crank is easily swapped, sump opens from the top. Studs on the carb mounts which you mentioned. makes life so easy. I'm surprised the mower needs a belt replacement already, they should last more than two years.
The owner dropped the deck to its lowest setting, and treated it like a bush hog in the overgrown vines and seedlings in the back of his property. 🙄 Tremendous wear and tear in just a few hours time. Thanks for watching!