Why Dragon Ball Sparking Zero Local Multiplayer is LOCKED to Hyperbolic Time Chamber
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
- Dragon Ball Sparking Zero is the latest fighting game in the Budokai Tenkaichi series. Game developer Jerrel Dulay shares his analysis and explains the truth behind why Dragon Ball Sparking Zero will restrict local multiplayer to the Hyperbolic Time chamber.
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Ultra instinct Goku lo 😂. I think the reason was that they were too lazy to add it. The reason why they added it was due to backlash. It's hard to render a game twice on scren with so much particle effects and map destruction, however if a game from 2007 can pull it off a PS5 should. Reducing the resolution dynamically would work like someone in the comments said. Most people might not even notice the toned down effects tbh. There's no time to look at nap and model details when ur friend is beating u srsly at the game lol
I was confused when he said Piccolo fused with UI goku??? 😂😂😂
You almost got me there 😂😂😂
@@CrescentEye hahaha just checking to see who's paying attention and catches a WTF moment.
Yo I was in complete shock like… wait… did I miss something? I swear that’s Zamatsu(however you spell his name lmfao)
@@sungrandstudios when I first saw that fusion I thought the same thing 😂
Nahh facts cuz I was like wtf 😂
Not to mention the "dragon ball headband" 😂
I was mocked for pointing out that this was originally intended to be a single player game. If I didn’t scream about it on Twitter they wouldn’t have added multiplayer lol
You did it! It only takes a spark to ignite a flame.
@@ShonenGameZ 🧢
You are a king
You did great my bro.
@@sungrandstudiosspark…ing zero
I hope they add more stages that doesn't expensive to render. maybe space stage and high up in the sky stage. they can be creative with that. even the tournament of power stage can work if they add a version of its not ruined, like in the start of the tournament, and turn off the destruction options of the stage. I think it would be very cool.
That's a very good idea and an elegant solution as well.
I'm sure they will add some other stages later. They did that in a rush, as even they admitted, but there were other stages they could have added, like the ones you mentioned, or even Kami Lookout I think it would run fine in splitscreen, even with some destructible stuff in it. It would be also good marketing if they release some stages for free, which I think they will also probably do.
Pretty sure they will do that, after all they did it with Xenoverse before where local multiplayer was stuck within the time chamber and then later added more stages.
I love the trolling lol
@@Dluiogbre it's what Toriyama san would have wanted.
😂
You talking about when he said goku and piccolo fusion.😂
Even on Dragon Ball raging blast 2 local multiplayer had trouble running. Go to the city stage on single player vs local multiplayer and you'd see that they removed buildings and stuff like that.
That's a good point. Thanks for pointing that out.
was kinda worried they wouldn't add Ultra Instinct Gokulo. The smile on my face when he showed up in the trailer!!! :)
@@minnts309 same! Finally they're giving attention to the real unsung heroes of Dragon Ball. ;)
@@sungrandstudios Preach brother!
They need to add crossplay!
@@anfer1995 fingers crossed! Games have done it before so it is definitely possible.
@@sungrandstudios Could be possible now, no offense, but any games on switch is like a death sentence for crossplay so I do see crossplay being available for Sparking Zero
The problem with that is you sheep made local a big deal instead of mentioning an actual cool feature like cross play it’s to late now 🤡
There’s fake destruction you throw a spirit bomb on the ground and nothing happens
@@Android-Twenty-Onethan forget the switch 😂
Love that you're offering your feedback and insight, no clickbait, no overexaggeration, and someone actually knowing what theyre talking about is a very welcome breath of fresh air
@@DBII7 thank you for watching. I appreciate that. I know it can actually get exhausting watching TH-cam when videos are trying so hard to be bigger and get some kind of reaction from the viewer. I don't worry about doing that kind of thing since I'm not a TH-camr. I'll keep making more analysis videos on this game and others coming up as well.
My guess is that they didnt decide to reduce the quality when on splitscreen because like you said, it takes some work and time. And like they said, they didnt plan on making a split screen mode so they just put together the cheapest and quickest solution which was just to implement it on an already made map
Maybe they'll put something better together some time after the release, who knows?
You're right, it's something they can work on post launch and add content with update patches. That kind of quality optimization does take time to implement and test.
i really hope the people understand the jokes you made
Some comments indicate some people missed the jokes. I guess I played it too straight and serious!
@@sungrandstudioskeep what u doing man, shi is funny
I hipe more people realize this isn't a new practice. Some of the stages in the raging blast and Budokai Tenkaichi games had to remove destructable environments and even then there were still some frame drops
@@AverageBananas12 thanks for pointing that out. The good news is it is definitely possible for the developers to address this and implement solutions to make local vs available on more stages. They could even fix it in update patches.
happy to see local co-op added though! hopefully by the time the game comes out, maybe we'll get 2-3 extra maps at start!
@@Chickensea10 it's certainly doable. It just depends on how much work the Dev team still has to focus on for other parts of the game.
that's not co-op, but, hey you got a great idea there, it would be great to have a co-op mode up 5 players in arcade mode or something like that (due team battle are with 5 fighters per team)
@@TheGeekmierder true true! mean't split screen but that works as well! maybe a future update since that's a little bit easier to implement
Honestly, I like the particle effects a lot and I don't like the idea of they get reduced it in order to have splitscreen. The particles and all the chaos is something that makes SZ even better. I would agree if they reduce the effects only for the splitscreen mode, though. Many do not know, but past DBZ games actually always reduced graphics in splitscreen mode. The stages had less details, geometry and destruction during splitscreen. There's some videos around youtube showing the differences.
I think another solution would be to reduce the resolution dynamically, and then during special attacks, since even during splitscreen mode they usually happen in a full single screen, the resolution would change to default. People probably wouldn't even notice it until some Digital Foundry or something pointed this out. lol
That's interesting. I didn't realise that about the older games. Nice observation! Dynamically adjusting resolution does certainly help for things like this. It usually takes a couple of solutions all working together to accommodate for slow down and high graphical demands.
Yeah, I think almost every one of us thought that splitscreen was flawless in the old games. But there was a guy on youtube showing these downgrades in the old games' splitscreen, since this whole SZ splitscreen issue came to light. I don't remember his channel right know, but If I find him again I'll post here for you.
I was furious about this game only having one map. I feel like they can fix it very easily. And especially if they made sure it worked ahead of time. Modders will fix it. They can fix it themselves too lol. But they wanna sell two copy's !!! Let us play with frame rate drops. Nobody would mind
Ultra instinct piccolo was funny😭
@@dumbbeann3777 Can't wait for Special Kameha Cannon.
I subscribed. This is my kind of channel. No influencer vibes. A technical perspective and a love and appreciation for an occupation. I also appreciate the contributions to the homebrew community. Not to mention the funny points in the video.
2:00 - Ultra Instinct Goku fused with Piccolo
4:48 - "Its so many balls there I got confused." 🤣🤣🤣🤣
5:00 - The "Dragon Ball" headband. Basically mocking the companies who try to pretend they are fans of the genre/series, but fails completely to the point to where it is embarrassing.
I appreciate that! Well, glad to meet you. Looks like we enjoy the same kind of humor. I'll keep making these videos since people enjoy them. I'll never be an influencer or TH-camr and I'd like to keep it that way. I'm looking at a few other fighting anime games this week.
I didn't but this game to play online or to play local co-op I'm not a big fan of the whole split screen fighting I only bought the ultimate edition to play the story the what if battles and to use all the characters abilities moves and fighting styles
Gg dead before release. There is no point in a dbz bt game without local play legit waste of harddrive space. Not even worth pirating anymore I am now very sad. Hopefully quickly able to mod in such a basic feature that has been removed to make companies more money (if u wanna play with the homies buy more copies. no sharing for you no couch fun for you buy 2 console and 2 game loser). The base game also costs the same as the most expensive pre order premium ultra deluxe season pass versions of every other game so it's just a flat scam. Was so hyped man way to kill the nostalgia stupid corpos
Keep an eye out for the PC version, as mods might be able to optimize the game and get other stages playable in local multiplayer! The devs themselves may also be able to optimize the game and add more stages to local VS in a patch later.
@@sungrandstudios Yeah I'll get a repack and mod it if the community bring it up to scratch but what a waste of space in 2024...
It's all just about money. No shits given for the consumer if it means they aren't maximising profits. "Why would we ever allow the fans to purchase a single copy for a normal price that has a full roster which they can play with their friends, when we can do none of that and charge extra for it?!"
haha laughs in potara earrings sold separately
ultra instinct goku piccolo is a new one for me
@@culch hehe I hope you had a laugh. I threw that in there to see who was paying attention.
why dont they do it like local couch play dragon ball xenoverse 2?
Why this game exist if whould not have local multiplayer? have only one stage of local multiplayer is allmost the same. Why modern things have to get worst?
I think its way more important that everything else in the game works first then worry about local multiplayer (Especially that they had to add it as an extra when they didn't even plan to do it in the first place). You explained everything very well. I can fully understand why they wouldn't try to add all the maps. as i said before make sure all the other stuff works and even just 1 map is enough if you want to have fun with your friends or family, and obviously the possibility of mods fixing it is also nice i'm completely fine with the hyperbolic time chamber as an only map cause i really like how it looks in game. Also ... what is homebrew? English is not my first language so i have hard time understanding that one.
@@LegolaszDBZWorld thanks for watching. Even having one map for local multiplayer is much better than nothing. "Homebrew" is when you make unofficial video games and is usually made for older, discontinued game platforms like PS Vita, PSP, and 3DS. The word comes from what is used to describe when people make their own beer at home.
If Mario Kart 8 can splitscreen at the cost of a performance/resolution hit, so can DBSZ
They didnt add local multiplayer so consumeds buys extra disc and extra ps5
I really feel like someone is gonna end up modding the split screen mode to enable all maps for it and it will work and then bandai will get called out even further. I just have a feeling it's gonna happen
Xeno bless the modders, the heroes of our universe.
being realistic, there's no real reason for not split screen in all stage, they can do a lot of things to improve the performance, even bt3 back then have to make some cuts in some of the maps, like reducing the geometry in city stage, pc will just prove it day 1 thanks to the modders. will need to just adjust some graphics settings and we'll ready to go
@@TheGeekmierder it is absolutely possible for a game like this to be playable local vs without split screen, but then the camera wouldn't have the dramatic, dynamic direction and framing. To have single screen vs, the camera would have to be focused on the middle point of both characters to give a fair and equal view to both players. Characters can freely traverse the environment and can get away from each other, resulting in characters becoming very small in frame. It is a decision from the director to have split screen and not full screen vs.
@@sungrandstudiosdo you think a 4090 would be able to handle split screen on every map with reducing any of the particle effects once modders add it in?
Appreciate the insight - I always had a feeling it was the particle effects and rendering of the clouds that were holding back the multiplayer on this game.
Shoutout to gokiccolo 👀
#gokiccologang
I feel like one big reason for the limitations is having to put it on the Xbox Series S because it's the weakest link of the current gen consoles. Other games have had issues because of this as well. It's just not as powerful as the Series X and the PS5.
@@awakentheflamepodcast5995 that is a good observation. I would have to look up the specs for it as I've never developed for the series S or X. I wonder if the developers have made any optimisations and reductions in graphical effects on the series S version or if they haven't done that at all... Time will tell.
@@sungrandstudios The developers of Baldurs Gate 3 had to cancel splitsceen for the series S because it wasn't strong enough. and Xbox demands feature parity between the series S and X. It was keeping the game from releasing on Xbox entirely.
oh my god FINALLY another ultra instinct goku piccolo fusion fan
edit: love your dragon ball headband, repping luffy i see
THANK YOU. Was starting to feel lonely over here on the UI Goku Piccolo boat. Of course I'm gonna rep Luffy, who's gonna be king of the hokage one day.
Wait wtf!!?!?! If I can’t play with friends and other people offline😂😂😂😂 that’s a joke!!!!!! Will not buy if they do this!!!!
@@Stasiathebratz you can play offline multiplayer VS, but it seems at launch, the only stage available will be Hyperbolic Time Chamber. It is possible for them to fix it but only if they allocate development time for it. You can always wait and see if modders fix it on the PC version.
I too am a fan of Ultra Instinct Gocculo!!!! Also videos like these where people genuinely know what they're talking about, and explain certain systems or limitations and why they might exist are so much better than the content where 20,000 Clickbait TH-camrs yap over the same exact footage and throw up like 5 videos a day.
UI Gokulo mains LET'S GO! Thanks for watching. This game keeps looking better and better, doesn't it? I'll keep up my videos if I find anything interesting in the new trailers and footage. I'm really looking forward to this game!
ultra instinct fused with piccolo 🤣🤣🤣
Thats zamasu not piccolo fused with ui goku roflmao
Hahaha I just said that as a joke to see who was paying attention.
Another great video full of insight! I wonder, do you think that the next 2 months would be enough time to correct all the issues we've seen from all the demo gameplay? Are those difficult to fix? I mean, I always considered it a green flag the fact that they are willing to show so much gameplay for Sparking Zero. I think it showcases their trust in the product.
@@sebastianrodriguez8692 Thanks for watching! It is tough to say. It takes to get approval so there is actually less than 2 months for the dev team to get the launch build ready. I don't know anything about their development team, nor their priorities and other tasks they need to prioritize. It all comes down to the director and their objectives. There are aspects that us as viewers would describe as "flaws" and "issues", but if the director says "those are fine, no problem here", then they won't be fixed. There's a strong chance they are most likely crunching to finish any further playable characters, since at this point, the game should be stable and all features should be in or very their final form. I do hope they continue to polish things like basic combo animations being samey and hitbox issues people have described.
Goculo confirmed!
@@DrBacalex I can't wait to see his Special Kameha Cannon attack in the game. I'm so hyped.
Sorry to say I heavily disagree with your view of the particle effects. I think it looks quintessentially Dragon Ball.
I didn't say it doesn't look like Dragon Ball. I only said there the game uses too many for the game hardware to render split screen 2 player mode without performance issues.
I love your dragon ball headband bro! Reminds me of the one goten wore when he first went ssj2 and beat 7th sage hirudegarn (with sasuke’s help ofc)
Man, remember when Luffy shouted "Goten, use your Masenko Rasengan!" and they brought Sasuke back to the village? Peak anime.
The trolling is over 9000
Consoles are too weak
@@Crimsongz Even after all these years, graphical hardware still kind of suck at rendering transparent objects like particle effects.
Bro that's Zamasu men😂😂😂😂 DBZ Super is not that bad bro. You had me dying so much I had to correct you on that one. Really..... picolo fused with UI goku, 😂😂😂 you got be new to the franchise when you came up with those two fusing.
I hope we get a tournament of power online co-op dlc. Where we assemble a team of real players to fight against AI teams. If you win you get one wish just like the "TOP" in the series.
LOL, that name. Were the fans, perhaps, feeling... BETRAYED that the game has been LOCKED to the Hyperbolic Time Chamber?
The thought of creating a DBZ Fighting game with no local multiplayer which on itself is something fans have been asking for years since tenkaishi is STUPID ...we do understand they want to make nice look and feel BUT we dont mind waiting years for something that allows us to share the moment with friends.... we honestly hope they bring more stages because thats a huge let down news...Man this annoying man
Love your sense of humor. Wasnt Gokulo an actual fusion possibility in one of the Budokai games?
Gokulo mains rise up
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@@Ahmadabdal_ #gokulogang let's go!! 👊
We all know why, but it still doesn’t make sense. If all the older games were able to battle in a destructible city, this should be more than enough to do the same thing. It’s a PlayStation five for God sakes. This was just pure laziness and lack of love for couch players.
The older games did not have any of the kind of details he's talking about in this video, and they still had to remove a lot of buildings and objects in splitscreen mode. The truth is just that with the type of effects games include these days, splitscreen is extremely hard to do, unless you drop all of those which no one wants to do because then your game looks like a PS3 game. That's why racing games don't have splitscreen anymore. There is no "laziness" going on here, that just makes you sound ignorant. Saying "it's a Playstation 5" doesn't mean anything; think of it like a normal person bench pressing a hundred pounds, then a bodybuilder comes in and has to bench press a thousand pounds, like yeah he's stronger but he's also got a lot more work to do.
@@shadowflame68 not ignorant. I’m just being real. What the point of having a strong games system if it means having less. I think you’re quite ignorant for saying this. As you can see, the fan base for this game could care less about graphics and more game mechanics. You are thinking backwards dude. Shame on you for supporting this fad.
A PlayStation 5 can have 100 players all in a distractible world. 100 players! Everything distractible! You know what game I’m talking about.
Dbzsp is just 2 players and you’re telling me that that can’t happen on a ps5 but a ps 2 can handle?! Hell even the psp was able to do it and that one was 4 players. Stop with your bs dude.
I'd say reduce the resolution to 720p in Multiplayer and reduce particle effects overall in general
@@theguardianarchives433 yeah you're right, reducing the resolution takes a massive amount of stress off the rendering budget especially when post processing screen effects and particle effects are involved.
If bandai themselves dont update the game with more local mp stages I hope the modding community will do it for us
@@renizxp I believe. Have faith in our modding community!
So that means that there is possibility that we will have more maps in future???
@@anbrosgaming836 It is definitely possible. It just depends on whether the development team director decides to allocate development time and resources toward making more maps for local VS.
You might know about game developing but you have to brush up on your anime so many naruto references in a dbz video lol
@@ericmacgillivray537 they were jokes I put in there to give people a laugh if they were paying attention. I'm a massive fan of both DB and Naruto and enjoy obsessing over the small details just like everyone else. Hope you had a laugh!
Your very entertaining and you say things with a straight face makes me laugh 😂
@@rushaunj thanks buddy! I probably should have admitted to the Ultra Instinct Goku X Piccolo joke. I said it so seriously, a few people thought I was being legit. Hahah.
From time he say zamasu was goku fusion wit piccolo I stop watching
@@LNT_slaughteryt it was a joke! Could you imagine how sad it would be if someone actually thought that?
We need to press them bout goku black not fighting with his swords they literally got goku black fighting with his hands when we all know he is really zamasu please press them bout that😊
Oh, seriously? I didn't notice that. I'm not sure where to raise the issue but I agree that those are things that should be brought to the developers' attention. That's a bit outside of my wheelhouse as I only cover technical and design aspects. That being said, I absolutely would rather see Goku Black using his swords and scythe and other cool constructs.
@@sungrandstudios thanx man and if u watch the sword vs fists trailer Goku black only use his sword one time as a ultimate he didn't fight with it at all not even in the combos
1:58 😂 no way
That was a sick dragonball head band where’d you get it?
I got it on eBay but for some reason they're all mislabeled. You have to search for "Naruto headband". Obviously the sellers don't know that much about anime.
I could forgive this if they included the Super manga storylines. However, i cant invest in another game that goes through Z again. With that said, looks like ill be getting this for PC for mod support
@@ryanhorton9594 I don't like being negative, but I too have played through the Z storylines in games way too many times and I'm not really interested in that. I feel the same as you; I'd really like to play through the new manga arcs in Super. Maybe they will add it in DLC?
@@sungrandstudios there's a lot of conflict surrounding Toriyamas estate and the DB super property (who owns what rights, etc). It'll be interesting to see how that impacts new DB properties moving forward. With that said, I have doubts about story line DLC offerings. We will likely see that in a sequel, with Sparking Zero selling choice character dlc additions such as Ultra Ego Vegeta, Granola, etc.
what the fuck are you saying ui fused with piccolo
@@nibirugami I'm just joking around. Guess I said it too straight faced and people thought I was serious!
@@sungrandstudios keep doing that because you’re really good at it. Not a lot of people can pull off a straight face telling jokes. There are very few of us and I think you did a very good job fooling everybody. Keep it up.
Particle density i guess.
You got it right.
I had no idea! Like what?
Edit: 1:58 had me rolling. I like you! 😂
ultra instinct goku fused with piccolo lol
@@wesleymedrano7638 my OC, please don't steal.
Gokulo 😂😂😂😂 we wish!
Gokulo is the most disrespected character in the whole Dragon Ball franchise.
Will it have cpu vs CPU and tag team Tenkaichi mode
@@jayy-ti6ik that's a very good question. Maybe you should keep sharing that idea so the Devs might eventually see it. At least CPU VS CPU is easy to add to a game and I do like that kind of mode.
@@sungrandstudios how can I get send it to them
Called zamasu gokulow
Oh man I'm so embarrassed. That's my mistake. I forgot this was one of those 3 way fusions. You're right.
please why is it split screen not full screen like xenoverse , dbfz pls anyone ?
Because the Maps are too big and it would be Terrible that way
It is split screen because in this game, the characters are able to freely move around, allowing them to get very far away from the other fighter. The game is designed so the camera has very dynamic and dramatic movement and direction, focusing on the player character. I totally get what you mean. Why not just let the fighters stay close together so it doesn't have to be split screen? It's just a design decision and that is all.
@@habderrahmanexenoverse maps are big too .
@@sungrandstudios I see so that is what they decided to do, it's not like it's impossible to implement?
@@I_Unintentionally_Morph Yeah but all those big maps are not available in local multiplayer
it is only reserved to small maps like the world tournament,wasteland and other small stages
Interesting video!
Thanks for watching!
You lost credibility when you took down the first video the devs are trash and you know it
@@inafieldmag the demo footage taken from EVO shows a hugely and significantly improved game. If I saw that footage first, I would not have made the video about Namek Saga content which looks just awful but is from earlier in development. That video was making general viewers bummed out. Why would I want to purposefully do something that upsets people? I'm not a TH-camr so I don't care how people judge me or decide how much credibility I have.
They can still do it just turn down the environment that's all
@@patrickcoates9980 they can even potentially fix that in update patches as well.
1:59 LOL ?
i highly doubt your skill is good enough to make this game let alone make it multiplayer what major game have you worked on that gives you the right to speak on major game labels if there experts your amature
@@kruddyrippit2349 you sound stressed out. What's wrong, buddy?
@@sungrandstudios not at all actually just counting the days till release
@@kruddyrippit2349u are😂😂😂