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- Yes indeed, Ocon right now is all talk, all big words but lacks the sheer ability to fulfill what he says. It is surely a straight up, attitude problem. His consistent tension with team mates and accidents during Grand Prix's tells me that he is no where near as good as he thinks he is. Ocon is supposed to be the Renault / Alpine guy but he is getting soundly beaten by his newer team mate Pierre Gasly. So what can Ocon do to turn this around? How can he win back the F1 community and achieve what he knows he can?
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***Realise I made a couple of factual errors: Ocon won his first race at Hungary, not Silverstone and Ocon also beat Alonso in the championship last year. Thanks for watching!
Funny part is if you rewatch all seasons since a driver starts and focus on those drivers you find they are not that good or worse than you thought . And if one watches grosjean . ocon and hamilton and compare them , you find they have more incomen than one first expects . as there are reasons why driverrs like Grosjean and Hamilton are in the honourable mention list of most crash prone drivers .
Winning in Hungary instead of Silverstone doesn't change the fact that Gasly is better 😃 Great video! We are all human, and mistakes happen. 🙌🎊
Pin this to the top m8. Would be easier for people to know so
He only beat alonso cause of Alonso’s 8 or 9 retirements😂
Alonso destroyed him on the track, no matter if it was a race or classification, the only reason why Fernando's last year in Alpine Ocon ended up getting more points than him was due to the lack of reliability of Fernando's car. I still remember how Ocon let Lewis Hamilton easily overtake the two Alpines because Ocon was more worried about defending himself from Fernando than from Lewis, harming the entire team in the process. Ocon is not only a mediocre pilot but also a miserable and shameless person.
Yeah that was the turning point there
He also Ricciardo to do a double overtake in the same race. An out-of-form Ricciardo too, because Ocon wouldn't let Alonso through
@@crystalracing4794 You're right, I didn't remember that one too. But we all see the difference, Fernando helped him get his first victory, he helped his teammate by preventing Lewis Hamilton from getting close to Ocon, Alonso held him back for more than 10 laps if I'm not mistaken. He took the risk of not finishing the race in that fight and he did it to help the team and his teammate. Ocon would never have taken a risk for someone else, he is too selfish, he would have done the opposite.
I remember when he did the same exact thing last year in Hungary- Ricciardo overtook him and Alonso in one damn corner 💀
Can't say the anything about the person him being, but he is definitely not a driver with sense and respect.
I feel Ocon has the same issue as Grosjean, which is a passive/aggressive personality. Like secretly slapping someone in the back of the head then when they retaliate you play victim. I worked with several people like that and it's not a pleasant environment to exist in.
Spot on mate!
I would say it's because they're French but Gasly and Charles aren't like that.
@@stpbasss3773man Charles isn’t French, don’t call him that
@@DazzaaiLeClerc is French. When did you ever see him defend his pole position in a race after qualifying?
Small correction: He won at Hungary, not Silverstone.
Yep, my mistake
Everybody gets one
so what kid?
@@thegridgab All respect to you for admitting your mistake. Most people would've just ignored the comment.
Subbed!
Much appreciated!
Ocon crashing out Verstappen in Brazil when he was a lap down in T2 says it all for me. I'm not even a Verstappen fan, I'm even team LH. But that made me furious, Max deserved that win and Ocon in a hissy fit ruined it.
Same here
Or don’t you think Max ruined it himself trying to defend on him while he didn’t have to ?
@@cactusttp_5520 Ocon was being lapped. And he was shown the blue flags to let max pass. Max never expected a push back from him. Ocon could have taken a wider line to avoid the collision, since it’s on max to defend his position while leading the race
he think if he slowed down max or take max out during that race to help lewis win the race he will get that second mercedes seat ( he will never get that mercedes seat )
That false, did u watched the race ? He pits one or two lap ago and was on new soft, he's faster he can unlap himself. Max did a stupid trying to defend for litteraly nothing. I hate Nexflix fans like u.@@jst4thesakeofit
Ocon is certainly a great driver on his best days, but when literally every single teammate you’ve had for the past 7 years hates you, you’ve gotta think that you’re the problem at some point right?
Doesn’t have any beef with Ricardo, Werner or Gasly. Obviously, when you are a good drivers like Alonso and Perez that are not used to being challenged by their teamate and they have to face him, they’ll heat up at some point.
@@cactusttp_5520he has beef with Gasly even from the Junior formulas. The guy isn’t likeable and every driver and fan can see that
Hamilton sweating profusly
@@cactusttp_5520 u do know that ocon and gasly have hated each other since their junior days way before f1 right?
@@cactusttp_5520 dude…he’s bad beef with gasly before being in F1, what are you talking about. In THIS video he literally has a portion dedicated to their beef.
💀I remember him saying "proudly"that he beat Fernando in 2022 but as a person who followed every race even as a neutral perspective I can surely say Fernando was better like 70% of the weekend, his reliability and mechanical problems cost him so much (the 7 races he retired, Alonso was ahead for like 6 races). Alonso was literally faster avg 0.3sec 💀.if Alonso had like only 2 dnfs would have around Norris than ocon. Ocon is a solid drives no offense but his aggressivene racing costs him too much.
If you work it out based on the positions he was in when the Renault engine decided to explode, Alonso would’ve beaten Ocon *and Norris* without all those DNFs.
If anything Ocon should be embarrassed that he beat Alonso by such a small amount in a season where Alonso had 6 DNFs
Ocon had a lot of reliability issues too, he just mostly had them for quali. He had 3 dnf during race due to engine issues and 6 of his qualies were affected by engine issues.
@@cactusttp_5520Alonso had A LOT of severe qualy problems. His hydraulics collapsed when he was going for P2-P3 at Australia in the last turn. He DNS Austria sprint (so P20 start in race) bc of his engine too.
ETC ETC
It’s not just that it makes him unlikable, I really think understanding where you stand in a fight can help you win (like Alonso just showed the world when he wrestled Checo for that 3rd place). Knowing your limitations helps you grow (can’t get better if yoj balme everything on everybody else)… if nothing else, it could make Ocon more cautious and finish more races
All about knowing what you don't know ;)
He also has the ego support now of being a winner and beating alonso in a season... even though both were achieved from luck..hes fast not special though like Leclerc or Verstappen
Lies again? Apex Predator Astro Pay
Esteban Ocon could be a good driver if he could see past the mega-chips residing on his shoulders. He has a major inferiority complex which hinders him in every aspect of his life. This complex then breeds a victim mentality that is very unhealthy.
This is just it, all this stuff is an anchor around his leg and stops him from progressing as he probably should have done!
Yes he and Russell have the same weird mindset which is hindering them greatly
Inferiority complex or superiority complex? He seems to me to always expect to get preferential treatment, even if he's objectively slower than his teammate on a race weekend.
He was battling Alonso so hard that it caused the team harm multiple times, even when Fernando clearly had the edge on him.
@@scroopynooperz9051 Precisely my point.
He is the real definition of "drive to survive" he has no other option than to succeed, he didn't come from wealthy background and i think it kinda shape his mentality to an extreme competitiveness to a point of spiteful, kill or be killed mentality those mentality that for me why he always fell out with his teammate, why he made unnecessarily aggresive move. Simply to prove he deserve to be in f1, deserve to be in a competitive team
There are other drivers who didn't come from wealthy backgrounds either (Alonso, Hamilton and others) and they were never dirty like him, so this is not an excuse.
That wealthy background story is such a bad excuse. If you are competing in karts during ALL your childhood you come from a place of privilege and money maybe he didnt have as much as the others but still had way more than the average kid. Ridiculous narrative.... Next 8mile movie will be about him. The poor kid who made it😂.... Behave people.
I think he's a good midfield driver that's it, performs to the level of the car only. Meanwhile Gasly, Perez, Ricciardo (before McLaren) extract more out of it. Good driver but worst of the best/good teammates he had
Very good point
don't see how Gasly extracted more of his carry than ocon
Gasly got stomped extremely violently, Ocon did not.
I think both Alpine drivers have similar career path, both of them have thrown away by their previous team, RB and Racing Point. But in Gasly case he had better people sorrounding him he had a team principal who know how to deal with young driver and teamate who had similar experience in Kvyatt, look how the Franz Tost guidance in Gasly career, he carried the AT in 3 years having his first win in AT outfit.
Just a better path all in all
I think Ocons problem is actually very simple. Hes stubborn to the point of arrogant. It will always turn the people around you, admitting a mistake or lack of form is like the turning point for most drivers/athletes. He just wont do it.
Stroll had the same problem witht he push. Just put your hands up and maybe lean into your emotion at that time and the sitiation is gone and you possibly flipped a couple important views of yourself.
Edit; you essentially made most of these points while i was writing them.
Put my hands up and accept my mistake, ill watch the full video first in the future. Good work man!
For a random suggested video I’m very impressed with your editing, insight and overall quality! I’ll keep an eye on this channel, I feel like you’re gonna be huge!
Cheers, I really appreciate that! Many more on the way so stay tuned!
"Never........Never in my life have i seen a defense like Ocon............Never"
Defend like a lion 😄
Ocon comes across as the kind of guy that would bump his own mother off the road to gain a position, and then blame her if his car gets wrecked.
and say she destroyed his tires with dirty air
no doubt the racing point incident affected him a lot. imagine struggling and working so hard only to be ripped away by strollbux. i rather like to think hes just in his own head especially right now with gasly beating him. its unfortunate because hes a decent midfield driver.
He has a lot to unpack and deal with for sure. Until he does, he's just going to be another midfield guy
He really does carry himself like he’s max. Knowing your limits and where to improve is a strength, not a weakness. He needs to understand that.
Yep exactly that. Well said
He beat Max already, and how do you know he won't beat max if they were in the same team again
@@wanbillion he beat Max in European F3. You are delusional if you think Ocon is anywhere near Verstappen's skill level. If that were the case he would be doing better at Alpine. Verstappen didn't always have the superior machinery that he has now. He was battling with Lewis in lesser machinery. Ocon does not have similar feats. F3 and F1 are 2 different levels of racing. Verstappen won his debut race with Red Bull. Ocon has only won 1 race in his entire F1 career. Even before 2021, Verstappen had 10 race wins under his belt. He was competing with the likes of Hamilton and Vettel then in lesser machinery. If he was at Verstappen's skill level he wouldn't lose to Gasly in the WDC.
@eyesinc.4751 So is Alonso a bad driver for not winning anything at alpine? You said Max didn't always have a good car, but sometimes they had better cars that suited them more in different tracks. That's why Max and Ricardo were able to win without Ferrari and Mercedes having dnf. Red Bull was always the best all-around team in Formula 1 with their aerodynamics, fast pitstop timing, and decision-making. Red Bull can make a fast car with a bad engine, but I don't think other teams can do what Red Bull does, so I don't believe Max could've won races in Alpine this year if he was driving at Alpine.
@@wanbillion because he only did so due to having more experience in open wheelers... That was literally Max's first ever season driving anything outside of a Kart. The fact Verstappen had any wins at all that season only makes it worse for Ocon.
2:36 if you look at the races that they both finished, Ocon has the measure over Gasly, but I still think Pierre is the better driver and the better choice
The funny thing with the incident in Brazil is that it is fine to call Fernando an idiot over the radio when you just crashed but to double down in the press and say that he didn't do anything wrong at all and it was all Fernando was and is something that doesn't sit well with people.
I think in addition to the impact of losing his seat in the way he did it was just made worse by how his career was potentially shaping up to be. He was seen as the next Mercedes driver, don't know how solidly he was really seen as the next number 1 but the impression around those first few years of his career was he just has to bide his time and hone his craft then when a spot opens he joins a top tier team. Then he got dropped for the same year when the person who replaced him in that position started F1. So not only did he lose his seat in a crap way but he also saw his chance that he was waiting for disappear with George performing as well as he did.
What bothers me about him isn't the incidents, or even the fact that he blames others (That is a shit thing to do of course) but he seems to have no problem with shittalking even after the race. We know it is normal for drivers to see the incident as the other driver's fault in the heat of the moment but with him it is as if he just sticks to that. The comments about Alonso are an example of his attitude. Why say those things? What do you hope to achieve by saying you did all the work? Even if he had to do everything and Alonso slacked on his duties, you don't help yourself in any way by saying that to the media. Answer the question of Alonso leaving in a PR way or even something like "It is known that we didn't get along well so I am not sad that he isn't my teammate anymore" but not saying things like that.
Excellent video. He needs to drive his own race like Kimi did and not be distracted by other conpetitors.
He should be forever grateful to Alonso for holding up Hamilton for his only F1 win, can't see him doing it again?
Being chewed up and spat out by Redbull taught Gasley humility.
Very true
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Cheers man, thanks for the support!
I think whoever handed ocon a long term contract in 2022 shouldve been fired because thats why alpine lost alonso and piastri. If Ocon had been given 1 or 2 years he would have just accepted it and they could have retained Alonso and assured piastri of a seat this year...imagine alpine with alonso and oscar pairing
That would be a mega line up
Short answer: Yes.
I'm french and I totally agree with your analysis
Honestly i liked him even when he did the max thing and perez ..but after this with Alonso im kinda annoyed... that was straight up disrespectful for the most experienced driver especially his ex teammate...it was bitter
Ocon had 6 retirements and Gasly was barely able to beat him. Same logic everyone applies to the whole year with Alonso has to be applied here. Gasly did not outperform Ocon.
Perhaps the cockpit setup isn't all about the team giving Ocon the top treatment, and it's just a matter of dimensions. Which sucks for Pierre, but it simply wouldn't work to shoehorn Ocon into a Gasly-sized slipper.
Good analysis. I hope that Alpine will focus more on Gasly next year.
Thanks, I think they will have to if they're going to move forward!
@@thegridgabAnd, like Ocon, Gasly is French.
Ocon is a middle of the road driver who claims to be one of the best but aside from the occasional flash in the pan he just doesn't have the skill set of a top flight driver
Ive held this hot take FOREVER and gotten a lot of flack for it. Nice to hear someone echo my thoughts!!
Fantastic video! Well done!
Thank you! Cheers!
Ocon has nowhere to go but Alpine in F1, he never gets along with other drivers and no team wants that disruption.
I'm thinking the same thing
they changed the car to suit gasly a litle more sum way after summer break
Esteban feels like he has a contract with DTS. Not with Alpine.
What a great way of putting it!
is it just me or i forget that he is still on the grid
You wouldn't be the first lol
Earned yourself a new sub today 👍💪
Really appreciate that!
Alonso's bad luck did not get in the way of Ocon boasting about beating him in the standings, so I will have no patience when he tries to pass of this year as bad luck against Gasly.
Ocan is a racing incident.
Alonso uses skill aggressively, Ocons skill is aggression
It's kinda sad how Ocon is turning into tier 2 driver. Thank you for a comprehensive review of this situation btw. Subscribed)
Thanks very much. Appreciate the support!
@GeorgiyM. Sorry but the second tier is too high a point to reach for him. He might be a good driver, just third rate. And when his mentally is considered: He is like the hooligan footballer, in action and mentality.
@@Paul_C Yeah, I agree. At this point it's too late for him to sort his problems out.
@@Paul_Cwhere do you put all the drivers that have never won and never scored a podium?
in Spain we call him Esteban Bocon, which means Esteban (Mouth)con, because he uses the mouth more than the hands.
Haha very nice.
Ocon definitely has a PR problem. He is talented, but my perception is he has a chip on his shoulder.
Big time PR problem. Probably surrounded by yes-men
Nice take but mate, get your facts right before posting your video.
Just for example:
Ocon’s win was in Budapest, not in Silverstone ;
Ocon outscored Alonso last season (Alonso had more mechanical failure but still);
Ricciardo and Ocon had an alright relationship.
Making such mistakes and shortcuts just bomb the quality of your analysis.
Yep, you're right. Made some mistakes there
a bit agressive
@@philbeighton6448 yeah, sorry about that 😅
The analysis is great but the many mistakes just took me out of it.
It’s like watching a Formula 1 race and someone comes with a monster truck 😄
Yeah please stop talking shit@@thegridgab
Ocon might be arrogant, but to some extent in F1 you need that self-belief. You don’t have to be the most-liked driver to be successful in F1.
On the other hand, maybe a bit of ‘yeah sorry guys, my bad’ wouldn’t do any harm and show a bit of humility.
Oh for sure, you don't get that far without it. But a bit of owning up from time to time wouldn't hurt.
the semi worst take i have ever heard
@@godsbleedop66 fair enough mate
"Good but not great one" while there are drivers in F1 who have never won or ever been on a podium, ok...
If he was that bad I don't think he could have had a podium in Monaco this year especially since this circuit is 90% driver and he's in an alpine. I think there's been so many technical problems in the past two years it's like judging Leclerc's performance vs Sainz without factoring DNFs and so on. Also, there's a really embarrassing amount of online hate/cyberbullying towards him most of the time coming from Spaniards (Alonso fans, Perez fans) "death penalty for ocon" "lifetime prison for ocon".
I agree with some parts of the analysis but I feel like it's really one-sided, there's a lot of emphasis on singular events (radios, specific races) and completely omitting that F1 drivers act like this all the time in the heat of the moment. For instance, Gasly flipped the bird already twice this season, throwing around the F words on other pilots, but you say he's calm and likable? There seems to be double standards. On the other hand, the fact that Ocon has 7 DNFs in 17 races and that when he can race he's bringing back points almost every time isn't even mentioned. 🤨
Ocon is a good driver but I think on the whole, Gasly is the more complete package
@@thegridgab Honestly it's hard to tell as they had drastically different seasons and internal competition when it comes to teamates.
If you had a vacant seat and either were available, who would you sign?
@@thegridgab I think there is no clear choice. It depends mostly if I'm a bottom-tier team or a midfield team. Esteban has had more challenging teammates and seasons overall (since Pierre did not finish the season at RB) so I think there's more certainty regarding Esteban's potential contribution as a driver to the team and for technical feedback (a strong point). On the other hand, Pierre was a leader at Alpha Tauri, with Yuki being happy staying the 2nd pilot in a bottom-tier team, so I wouldn't say it's comparable to being in a team with a multiple world champion (Alonso) or Perez back then. So far Gasly has had a terrific season, he has a great momentum, but at the time being I would try to stay cold-minded. How about you ?
I think given their whole package and preserving harmony at the team, I would go with Gasly
I can clearly remember the hype. He was going to replace Bottas 😂😂😂🇫🇮
Ocon van count himself lucky Verstappen didn't beat him up.
Oh definitely
You do realize Ocon is 6 '3' lmao
@@CrusaderAce24 So? A 6 3' douchebag, easier to hit
if not for Stroll Ocon would easily take the cake as my least favorite driver in F1
Agree with you on Ocon, i think ever since wining in Hungary his ego has gone up thinking he's one of the best drivers on the grid, when i reality he's just a solid midfield driver. Also needs to calm down his driving style as he's getting involved in many incidents and take blame for incidents that was mostly his fault.
Icon won’t be in the grid by 26’
Ocon is incredibly French in how he acts.
His only friend on the grid seems to be Lance Stroll, which is probably telling. I still think he's a solid points scorer for Alpine though. No reason for both to split up. And while his relationship with Pierre is formal, both seem to be fairly in balance with each other and generally want the same from the car.
Personally he is one of my favorite drivers for those reasons Someone who had to fight and claw for everything he has it shows that you can’t dream to big and if u fight hard enough you can beat the l prima donna glorified club racers it reminds me of a much grander scale of what I’m doing
Credit to him and his family for doing it that way though
Having a tougher road than the others doesn’t justify his attitude. In fact he should be even more humble since he doesn’t come from wealth or legacy. Instead he acts as if he was THE man without anything to show for it. I don’t deny his talent, he’s crazy fast. but when your only consistency is pissing off your teammate then you’re the problem.
Short answer : yes . Yes he does
You are factually incorect a lot of times, fact check your scripts or you lose credibility. No offense, not trying to take the piss at you
Yep, hands up. Made mistakes
Yes!
Without even watching the video, yes!
Thank you for bringing this up. I have thought the same about him for a while now. Not that i want to bash him, he is a capable driver, but the only reason hes at Alpine is because hes French. Perhaps Gasley can quietly take over and Ocon can be replaced.
I think that's what will happen. 2025 will be a clean slate. Retain Gasly and bring in a promising youngster
Bro, even though I agree on a lot of points with you but you need to get your facts straight,
I’m pretty sure the Hungary silverstone debate has already been discussed enough but other things like gasly and ocon having the same Cockpit is just bs. Sure the care and button Lay-out on the steering wheel is engineered to ocon more but the size thing is just wrong, both of the cars are perfectly fitted to the dedicated driver.
And don’t get me wrong that was a really good video with some very valid points throughout, but please emphasize on these things credible info is key the other stuff just lose it.
I hope this wasn’t hurtful or anything just an honest opinion from another fan who followed the sport very meticulously over the last decade.
I wish you the best and love from Austria
Answer: Yes.
Correction: not Silverstone, but Hungary 2021
huh- your analysis makes sense
Cheers!
Jedi in the streets, Sith in the seat
Good video mate. But just remember his French
Complete rubbish, all of it. From the current grid Ocon has least mistakes, most empathic off track, purest competitor on it, his pace needs more consistency, that is all. Put him in a ferrari he is as good as sainz and leclerc you are all immature or hate him for his good looks and talent, i dunno. This is a ridiculous agenda and its needs killing off. Disgrace to f1, bullying is not cool anymore
He’s the real Jean Girard
Yeah Ocon situation are so bad, he to arrogant for mediocre drivers who doesn't win any winning title champions.
Even Max vestapen now days kinda more humble options then Ocon did. He thinks he is main character in F1
He needs a team mate to put some manners on him
Honestly, why is everyone suddenly talking about Ocon as if he were the first thing in the world lmao?
The victim mentality that Ocon cultivated over his not-as-abundant childhood compared to his competitors really gives him a hard time. He thinks everyone is there to get him, both on and off track, which really help no one. He can’t even mingle well with the French drivers, let alone drivers from other countries.
Attitude problem is an understatement . As he has the driving skill Latifi the stupidity of Kvyat . the over estimation of stroll . and arogance of grosjean and likability of mazapin .
All combined you get a stroll .
That actually cracked me up. 5 star comment
I can't remember that he had any tension with Ricciardo.
The other guy with same discrepancy between attitude and performance in recent history has to be Nikita Mazepin which puts Esteban, let's just say, questionable company. Yuki kinda was on a similar trajectory but i think he managed to turn it around.
Yeah seems like someone had a word with him
Finally, someone that gets (the same way as me, I'm not claiming I'm 100% correct) Ocon's behavior upon teammates.
Glad to have you onboard
Big fan of Ocon from early days but Ocon is very very like George, they cannot acknowledge their own shortcomings. Cognitive dissonance.
I'm the same with George
No I think George is a bit more mature.
yes. yes he does
the difference between hamilton and ocons crashes is that hamilton after the shock and anger wore off was able to step back admit yeah that was on me and move on
Exactly
YES. lol
Guy has constantly demonstrated his poor attitude
I think one of the good things about lots of the F1 community is that apart from delusional fanboys that argue for the sake of it, everyone is at worse be neutral on all of the drivers, except Ocon. No one loves him. Look at Latifi, not the most skilled driver, but not an arsehole and wasn't treated as such by fans. Whereas I think most fan can agree that Ocon is a problem and the least liked on the grid since Mazepin, lost his seat.
Very good point. Latifi didn't do great but still didn't carry the negative press than Ocon does
Love the guy, I like that he won't bow down to his teammate even if he is less good, just like Fernando. He wants to win no matter what and I respect that. He just live the track
Fair play, as long as folks support drivers and teams that's awesome. We'll see what Ocon can deliver in 2024
2.36 go fuck yoursel at one point , not even capable of seen that ocon have 6 ret
He does. It's well documented.
His days are numbered, by 2025 Doohan or Pourchaire will be driving alongside Gasly.
I'm thinking the same
Crazy to think that he has a race win but Lando doesn't.
I know, hopefully that will change in 2024
Yeah this video aint it chief, not only are some of your points wrong about Ocon, but other drivers aswell, its 100% olay you have an opinion, but dont say it like its facts
No worries, All my own opinion
In my opinion Pierre Gasly and Esteban Ocon are exactly where they are supposed to be. I think both of them are pretty much equally skilled and that skill is exactly average in terms of F1 level. Alpine at the same time is the most average team in F1 in the past 5 years. Always in midfield, Never at the bottom, never regularly challenging for podiums. I think everything about this team simply screams average if you ask me. Not trying to hate on them this is just my personal perception.
They need to ditch the Alpine shtick and go back to Renault
short answer : yes
Ocon probably has a attitude problem. This is coumoun with athletes at a Professional level. You have a entourage who will talk big about you and pump you up of the track and this probably feeds the condition. It has been used by Athletes to get what they need from the team in terms or support and development. Maybe you have to push a team into i direction you want it to go. So it is a very political game, the secret is to use the attitude to help the team and not push it into a rabbit hole they don't need to jump in.
He is a driver who i don't hear from. And i do not know personally.
Gasly is way better than Ocon. #teamgasly 😍
Definitely!
@@thegridgabso tell Gasly to get up from P21.. Man only beat Ocon because he had 8 more Dnfs.. Lol, he was nowhere near Ocon's level
He is completely overrated and an arrogance that is just funny to me given his "im so likeable" demeanor he tries to portray
Absolutely bang on
Cheers very much
Copy paste my tweet from Brazil GP
“Theory… if we ask #F1 fans which driver they could axe from the grid, we would have a lot of #Verstappen / #Hamilton votes (due to fan boys), but if we ask all… which driver shouldn’t be really in the grid… the majority would vote #Ocon!”
Ocon should drive better and talk less
Do the talking on the track
@@thegridgab Completely agree
This video was liked by Pierre Gasly
I wish!
better question: Do i care?
Athletes are weird people in 9/10 times.
Probably have to be to a degree
Yes.
0.20 because he lost his engine or need to stop 7 time