He's saying that some people bash raspberry pi without considering the reasons people might want to use one, such as GPIO, low power consumption, low cost, and good official and community support.
So explain to me, how the Rasp Pi 4A I mean 5 is better than the orange Pi 5+? Or how the Rasp Pi 4B is better than the orange Pi 3B? Or how the Rasp Pi is better than the OpiZ2W & 3? Esp that last one were the cheapest 18$ model Z2W is 18$ CAD & has a quad 1.5Ghz cpu? Also let's just mention.... Idk RADXA. Radxa Zero, Zero 2, Zero 3, esp Zero 2 Pro with 8GB of ram (also OpiZ2W has up to 4GB ddr5 for 33$ CAD) BUT what I care about the most is the Rock5b the Opi5+ or 5B or 5. But I'm gonna talk about 5+. Up to 32GB ram dual channel. 2280 m key PCI for NVME gen 3, 256GB EMMC, faster SD speeds. RTC input, speaker input. 2 USB 3.0 + a 3.0 type C that's also DP1.4, 2 FULL SIZE HDMI put 8k 60, 1 HDMI in 4k 60. 2 RJ45, WIFI 6, BT NEWEST 5.2? Which is optional since it uses PCI e key and adapters exist. This could be GSM or another NVME, 8 cores. It's 4 eff cores are same as entire Rpi,4B and it's other 4 same as Rpi5..... It would take both a Rpi4B and 4A I mean 5 to even get close to these specs. 2 USB 2. 40 GPIO. Over a dozen or two OS available. And best part all that without a f ING hat or attachment. Sure Rpi5 has PCI as a pinout you need to pay to have it be useful. It's SD speeds are Slower. No EMMC. Single chip ram so could be DDR5 would stil be slower. No NEON no npu at 6 TOPS, it's just a 4 with a new meh cpu slightly faster SD which the rest of us have left behind. It's performance is meh. It's price is meh. It was severely outdated on announcement. It's crap..your a bootlicking brown noser. Your opinion sucks. You come off like an asshole. You deserve bad things for being such an overly judgemental unstable reviewer. Pay more money for garbage. Nobodies stopping you. But for the price of a 5 I'll snag a 3B orange Pi, slap a NVME on it. Slap some NVME on it. Toss that dumb SD away. Use Rpi3 cases cause let's not waste. The ONLY good thing to come from the Rpi5 was 5v5a psu. Despite the literally superior in every actual real tangible metric, the Pi 5 family only needs 4a. But I want a 5a just cause I'm going to attach a Mipi DSI touch screen. Oh and it's got headphone jack which doubles as AV out so that's what like 5 displays and we haven't even talked GPIO out. And it's GPU MOPS the floor with the rest. So you babbling like a tantrum child made me rant. And the Opi5+ isn't the only one, rockpi5b nano Pi t6 and a few more. But the thing Opi's have they don't. 32GB ram. Rockpi's max is 24.
welcome to youtube. you will find chapters of the video somewhere near the player. instead of complaining in the comments section, just skip the intro next time.
4 mins and still waffling incoherently .... if you're gonna clickbait, don't waffle once you've reeled a sucker in. See ya ! *adjusts 'dont recommend channel' setting*
Definitely agreed. The aether at large often seem to obsess over raw numbers. how cheap is it? how fast is it? etc. These are important metrics for sure, and mission critical in some applications but they don't tell the whole story. Sure I can pick up many of the other development boards out there and do things on em but without the wealth of accessible knowledge, an ecosystem of hardware addons, tutorials, community support and other ancilliary resources to go with them, I'm gonna have a harder time actually doing the things I want to do.
Production Triangle, "Time, Quality, Cost, pick two", with the Pi over the last decade I have gotten very close to having all three. Hardware with software development time for a product has gone from 6 months to a few weeks.
This. It doesn't matter how much faster the competition clocks at on a benchmark test, if it either flat out doesn't work for real world applications or takes weeks and weeks of dev work to get simple things up and running. Netplan on the RockPi 4C is a prime example.
@@dr.benjaminbird7631 2 Weeks to make the hardware and write software, debug and test everything, with Pi and the right RAD tools I can do that now. With practice and off the shelf hardware and fancy 3D printers etc I truly expect that projects could be done in 6 hours. But I will need to get much better at CNCing, Kicad, FreeCad and Blender before that happens and of course I will do it all on a Pi5 or Pi500.
Personally my main reason for using Pi's were emulation and media setup boxes but in the end for the price of a Pi + case and all the stuff here in Canada I could get a cheap second hand mini PC for cheaper. Plus having other sbc's being more powerful while yes are a bit more money I'm happy to pay. I'll probably skip on the Pi5, pretty disappointed with PCIE 2.0 and those micro hdmi's.
You will have people who understand five programming languages with multiple certs. But they cannot understand the concept of "use case" and how their's might be different from someone elses.😂
I don't like the lack of a headphone jack. Other than that I think they did good. What they should do... is take one of these wanna be Raspberry Pi companies and license them to produce Pis for them. In turn the partnership could benefit whatever product that company already sells. Maybe they could produce more than one model that has a better processor, or better graphics hardware, or a model with a headphone jack. I'll probably be getting at least 2 Pi5s at retail price when available. One nice thing is the Pi4 can still be a good choice.
The analog audio on the RPi's wasn't the best to begin with. Basically a PWM generated 11 bit signal. the HDMI audio is better and for a couple of bucks you can add a usb DAC. There also are some very good audio hats.
@Diggnuts The jack audio was just fine. I watch movies and listen to music on a boombox pi4. Hdmi, you're depending on TV audio and speakers being good, most are not. So, now I'll need to buy a dac or Bluetooth. Bluetooth was for the game controller. It's all going to end up using more power on top of the 2 extra amps.
@@pgtmr2713 The PWM audio was terrible! Good enough for some applications, but certainly not for outputting music on A semi decent HIFI set. It's like comparing composite video to 1080p60fps HDMI.
Alt Pis are still very reliable, especially for commercial applications. You don't need "software support" to design things that are more sophisticated than an RC toy on wheels that he has. Because apparently that's all that Raspberry Pi fans are doing. As long as they're not selling the Pis for the MSRP, Alt Pis will always be viable. Especially the likes of Orange Pi Zero 3 with 4GB RAM that sells for like $25.
I use a variety of SBCs in my setup. Rockin a Pi4 8gb as a Router OpenWRT Pi3a+ with PiOS and PiHole as the DNS Server over Wifi Pi 4 8gb with Ubuntu Server and OpenMediaVault over WIFI as NAS TinkerBoard with NEMs Linux to monitor the constant addition of new SBCs that are doing certain roles all over this little Pi Powered WIFI OpenWRT network The Workstation I use to administer this is a Raspberry Pi 400 dual screens with Ubuntu 22.04 I’m right now popping in an Odroid XU4 in the network as a Kali Linux box to remote/ssh into and gain knowledge of doing proactive network testing I find fan buying over a certain SBC is not necessary lol. I use what works for the given application I’m attempting to accomplish. Yes I have a lot of Pi’s I also have Jetson Nano boards and tinker with AI and AR and I have a Intel Realsense Camera and Intel Neural Compute Stick So whatever works As long as it ties into my DIY OpenWRT Pi Router Network. I just keep them segmented off from my main network Also have a NUC to, 7th Gen. I run Windows Server 2016 on it. Share some files with it. And the OpenMediaVault is my Media Storage. Lastly a Mac mini with MacOS to handle the iTunes storage and streaming
RPi was NOT supposed to be a "hobbyist board". The original RPi was envisioned as a cheap computer that you can connect to a TV and a keyboard and use it as a prop to teach and learn computer technology, programming, electronics and have fun in a very accessible way. The idea was based on the way Commodore 64 was used back in the day, a computer that inspired many current engineers when they were boys, including the creators of RPi. Hobbyist were covered at that time by Arduino boards. They still are covered by Arduino and other cheaper boards. You don't need a $50 linux computer to blink leds and read buttons.
@@VolkerHett I don't know much about Ham Radio guys, I know they connect SDR boards to computers and make things work over RF. What does it have to do with the purpose RPi was created?
"...teach and learn computer technology, programming, electronics and have fun in a very accessible way." On what goddamn earth is this not describing a typical hobby type activity? This is revisionism of the highest degree. I suppose Commodore 64s weren't for hobbiests either, purely for teaching and learning only, or A grade industrial use.
The RPi was not (only) created to blink some LEDs. SDR is one way of using a Pi, a satellite tracker is another or a radio repeater. Older IEEE-488 (HPIB) instruments can be used with a RPi, like the ancient but still very precise HP lab voltmeters and so on. @@batner
@@ivolol I am not arguing, i'm just repeating what RPi creators said. "Hobby" is a generic term. RPi hit a spot that no one expected to be in such demand. A small and weak arm-linux computer was not a surprise in 2012. BeagleBoard was available and pretty popular at the time.
To me power consumption to power required is a big thing for me, something you didn't mention much. A server running 24/7 that doesn't need high performance will probably use less power on a raspberry pi than just the fan on a old intel Mac and probably make only a few milliseconds difference in response times for some applications. This power difference will impact lifetime cost, heat, noise, climate change, etc. It may not be a huge difference but it can add up.
Most NUCs using the N100 uses between 10W and 25W depending on the usage. That's a maximum of 5W more than the RPi 5 for much more performance. I like RPi, I just wish they did better on the 5.
@@SuperFranzs a rpi sitting at idle for 23 hours a day will use only a few watts for most of the day. rpi zero uses about 1 watt and runs many applications just fine if headless. that's 9-24 watts less that N100. Much less powerful but many applications don't significantly benefit from more power. rpi 5 at 20W is based on a lot of connected peripherals. I doubt it will use anywhere near that headless and idle as a server without spinning external harddrives.
@@anantakrishna4462 I agree that the RPi 0 is worth it. I hope the RPi5 uses less power than it seems. We'll se once they start shipping them to non-shills.
Well, you must really be IMPORTANT, because you obviously think you are, and you spent all that time flapping your gums to prove it. I watched the whole thing because the title lead me to believe you might have something to say that I would be interested in. Turns out it could all have been covered in about three minutes. In case you missed it, I don't like the snark. Won't be watching any more of your stuff.
It is still very hard to buy Raspberry PIs. I went to my local Microcenter last week, no Raspberry PIs available. I tried to get Pico's instead, and I was allowed to get just 1. Now they are introducing an RP5, so the chances of ever getting this is very suspect. I do wonder if the company is financially sound.
Checked stock of a large EU distributor (Farnell) 2 or 3 days ago. They had about 500 Pi4 8GB. Today they have zero, restocking will happen in about 1 month.
My theory for them pre announcing the pi 5 (they normally don't) is that they're having to transfer manufacturing from the pi 4 to 5. So production of pi 4s is going to go down, but not because of chip shortages. In prior cycles they could build up a stock of the old model to get them over the hump, but due the chip shortages they haven't been able to do that, so pre announcement is a good way of cutting demand for the pi 4.
Don't forget old used thin clients off of eBay those are pretty awesome I've used two of them for a couple different things they work good and are super cheap. To be clear for a server not for a robot.
i buy their boards because their a good company, not because i want the best hardware, plus for the price(at least msrp) this thing is a beast in its price range(for what it is, you could buy a cheap used office laptop slap ubuntu on it and it will be a powerhouse compared to any SBC)
I agree with pretty much everything he said, but god is he annoying. It's at 606 upvotes now to 779 downvotes, so good job. Is he this arrogant because he deals with kids all day? He needs to be reminded teachers are where they are because they couldn't make it in the private sector. I feel bad for his students.
He actually made a point besides a rant? I gave up about 3-4 minutes in. He was doing a self reach around on how smart he is and everyone else is inferior up to that point.
"I talk about what I am doing....." Don't GAF. Heard that and I'm typing this now. 3 minutes in and you haven't said anything. Waste of time. Update, read the comments and I see that others agree. I'm ambivalent about these things and wanted to see if with a little passage of time with this latest one in people's hands, what something other than the initial "Hot Take" would be. Certainly didn't find it here.
Thanks for putting yourself out there and saying what needed to be said. I'm still astounded at how many people get RasPis who never even touch the GPIO port. I feel they're missing the point.
@@FuskerFisker-zn7zy Exactly. People out there complaining for the last four years about how the Pi4 doesn't work well with two 4k video screens and I'm like "You guys use monitors?" Most of my projects don't even have a desktop installed for the OS.
I use PI's for digital signage and animated light shows and sometimes light PC's for remote RDS terminals. The reason I continue to use them is support and Ecosystem while still being open source!
I actually agree with your n00bs statement. Mainly because veteran tinkerers don’t care if a company prioritizes industrial customers. They’re already used to contacting industrial-only suppliers and trying to find ways to circumvent the MOQ.
Dell hasn't changed. We have a bunch of XPS 17s (like 30 of them in the office so far) that have all failed over the last three months with video memory issues causing complete freeze-ups. They are all no longer under warranty and the only fix is a motherboard replacement at $700 each!
Same. It's not so much hardware, but community and company support. Orange, Khadas, and Pine. I have the Orange 4B, Khadas VIM3 Pro, as well as the Pine RockPro64 and there's no community supoort. Like almost zero.
it was bad for me cause i had just started messing with linux and i was learning how to set up raspi3b+'s and zeros. those were easy enough then i fucked around with orange pi 3's and zero's. the opi3 actually wasn't too bad but the zero is headless and took me about a week to get running and worked fine and is really neat through vnc but it was such a headache that i couldn't reproduce it when i tried. now i can't get the opi3 to run without shutting down immediately during emulation and i'm too lazy to figure it out.
He is missing the whole point. The Pi has a lot of blobs and non-standard proprietary stuff. The kernel is created by the Pi foundation. The firmware is proprietary. None of this helps upstream kernel development on Arm because they have nothing to contribute to the mainline kernel because of compatibility reasons. It doesn't run Debian because it can't run debian. They benefit from Debian but contribute nothing to Debian. The CPU is 16nm in 2023. The dual 4K video is for desktop users not for IoT or industrial controls. Its not a low power device you can run on battery. Its also not cheap. The Pi only looks good if you have no idea what you are doing.
The RPI 5 is not designed for small battery powered IOT. They have other versions like the Zero or pico for that solution and if you’re using an RPI 5 for industrial control I question your sanity. The RPI 4 and 5 are built for their original mission statement. Education. And for that they are outstanding.
I wonder if this will actually be able to emulate Saturn games at a solid 60 fps with Retropie. Small SoC ARM based platforms can't properly emulate obscure architecture like Saturn (multiple sound chips) so it will be interesting to see what it can do
Great video. I have a usecase where I use one of my RaspBerry PI 4's as a portable development server - a cheap NUC or used Mac Mini is perfect for that - but they are biggerM and the PSU is much bigger. My Pi 4 runs in a comapct powerbank. The disk I/O is a bit sluggish, so I will upgrade to a Pi 5 - it has much faster i/o as well as built-in PCi-e.
Few years ago I bought a Raspberry Pi zero W for this very purpose. Unfortunately I never actually did the project but I thought it would be a good idea.
HardKernel and their Odroids have been pretty good to me. Reasonable price, reasonable support, stable products. 👍 My experience with the Jetson Nano is that its way way too proprietary. I been stuck with their distro for a long time. There is some Armbian support now but was still iffy last I checked. One time it fried a TF card. Dunno if it was the Jetson's fault or a USB harddrive I had plugged into it. I did try to do AI stuff with it but I couldn't get their stuff to compile. They didn't update their tutorials with the changes they been making.
I never heard of the Libre Computers until now. I appreciate the awareness. I don't need one but I will keep an eye out in the future. For the low price its worth the curiosity.
I have multiple pi's 0, 02 W, 3 b and 0/plus, 4 that has a 4gig and 8gif version. I use them for different things. I have a few picos ro teach micro python and electronics ro my son. His school soes not teach anything like that in primary school. So used them all for different things. I use my 3s doe robotics. Pi 5 is interesting for ai but need to learn about it
I use a variety of SBCs in my setup. Rockin a Pi4 8gb as a Router OpenWRT Pi3a+ with PiOS and PiHole as the DNS Server over Wifi Pi 4 8gb with Ubuntu Server and OpenMediaVault over WIFI as NAS TinkerBoard with NEMs Linux to monitor the constant addition of new SBCs that are doing certain roles all over this little Pi Powered WIFI OpenWRT network The Workstation I use to administer this is a Raspberry Pi 400 dual screens with Ubuntu 22.04 I’m right now popping in an Odroid XU4 in the network as a Kali Linux box to remote/ssh into and gain knowledge of doing proactive network testing I find fan buying over a certain SBC is not necessary lol. I use what works for the given application I’m attempting to accomplish. Yes I have a lot of Pi’s I also have Jetson Nano boards and tinker with AI and AR and I have a Intel Realsense Camera and Intel Neural Compute Stick So whatever works As long as it ties into my DIY OpenWRT Pi Router Network. I just keep them segmented off from my main network Also have a NUC to, 7th Gen. I run Windows Server 2016 on it. Share some files with it. And the OpenMediaVault is my Media Storage. Lastly a Mac mini with MacOS to handle the iTunes storage and streaming
If you used an Intel NUC instead of a raspberry Pi, that could be RISC-Y 🤦♂️🤣 actually I have one of those boards too, but I haven't unboxed it yet for a video. And my PI-5 finally showed up after 3 months. I could have sworn I ordered it then I couldn't find the order and then it showed up after I forgot 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I am thinking of the Pi-5 as a desktop / entertainment center PC. Most of my video is off TH-cam or Amazon. They limit rented videos to SD on linux, as far as I know. My situation requires a very well cooled machine, because I do not have AC. My video requirements are rather low two 1080-ish screens at best. (1920x1200 for the win! ) The Pi 4 runs ok as a desktop for me, but a Pi 5 will handle the video side better. Mx Linux for the Pi is great, fo the 4 or 8 GB ram versions. I found the Thorium fork of Chromium to work well on the Pi 4. The Pi is dead the same way COBOL is dead. For what it does there ain't much better. BTW a Pi can emulate DOS PCs or old Mainframes very well. Good Luck!
I love repurposing old hardware to run Linux . Plus, these old boxes are so cheap sometimes that I can keep one going for any “left field” or less common OS that I want to mess around with just for fun,
A point A foundation is designed to make one think it is a charity, but that is only a superficial aspect that is used by certain trust and business complexes in substitution of taxes where the Founder decides how that money is spent and at a minimum. Some may be what hey appear to be,
if im buying a pi its not for AI or a desktop its for me to run my emulation which i love on the pi its small and sexy and has huggggeee support i like nvidia but there support is rubbish in the ordinary folks world and nvidia always shaft everybody , rpi5 is what you want to do with it even now its desktop is actually very fast with two monitors very nice , if i wanted something with mega speed i would build a tiny pc but that defeats the object.
I think what folks don’t understand is those who provide value when they talk are doing the last step in the process. First you have to listen.. a lot. Because your words Tony have value if they aren’t tailored to the problem the other person is trying to solve.
I am surprised nobody recommended Orange Pi. It was the go to pi for awhile far superior in power, price and capabilities compared to the pi4 when the pi was being sold for for so much. Now that the pi5 is coming out and pi4 prices are dropping, for what your doing I wouldn't recommend Orange to you. Just odd people recommend those known shitty pi knock offs and not Orange Pi. Goes to exactly what your point of the video was, people just talking shit. Although I do kinda want to fight you on the NUC thing but for what you are doing its horrible alternative. I save that fight for when you get into more complicated projects. LOL
won't ever buy Pi5s - but I bought a couple of Pi3s recently because they need less power and I need them for custom HATs 🥰 Starting with Pi4 the Pis are not the SBCs anymore what they were starting with the first Pis what is very sad.
Eli, I for one, appreciate the detail. Thank you! Keep up the good work. I want to get more into robotics and home automation as well as remote communication with home monitoring/automation systems and servers. Dang work is impeding my fun! Well, I like my work also… Anyway, take care!
It’s like I want to like the video and at the same time about to break my phone. Could you please tell me what the dislike to like ratio? Just wasted my whole time sorry. Nothing here. Dear TH-cam God, I can’t buy R pie! They are selling for 3 to 10 times the prices you keep on saying! Lord thank you for creating these beautiful people, please look after them. lol
Ikr? Orange Pi Zero 3 with 4GB LPDDR3 RAM for $25 blows the likes of RPi 3+ out of the water. And you can still get LEDs to blink there. And so much more.
Completely agree with you, give someone a decent solution and they will always come back. I was at a client just doing a simple firewall change and at lunch they were discussing changing isp buy a big bang solution…. I said noooo just put another network card in the router and set up rule based routing, then you can change over services one by one. I did I for them and then forevermore they asked for me to come back.
What about OrangePi5/5Plus and Radxa 5B - same amount of GPIO, 8-core up to 16Gb ram standard PCiE slots. They where available during the Pi shortage with no problems.
Got a raspberry pi 4b last week and got volumio installed on one micro sd card. I'm having a hard time setting up a FreeNFS server on my laptop to share music files over LAN for the rpi to play 😕
whjy the heck does he pronouce nucs as nukes.... that just sound wrong! uck not ook sounding.... Personally i like the Latte panda Delta 3 but that mostly because i need the USB-c display port and extra usbs for pheriperal and then i might get into using the gpio port for some sensors i can easily get to work over usb-c
I use the RK3588 as an headless Linux server on the go. I am thinking about getting another one with desktop. There is no advantage for me to get a RPi5.
people these days don't use common sense each individual thinks he has priority they don't understand that lots of people will be left with no jobs if their companies aren't able to get these pieces of tech. I am in DIY 3D printers and we also use PI but i can understand that my hobby can wait. I had because of the shortage to change to alternatives like orange pi and other Chinese SBC but as soon as PI were back on stock i ordered them since the alternatives are not so reliable well documented or feature rich. The only smart feature i've seen on some of them especially for 3d printers and i wish raspberry would do the same on pi5 but they didn't is to allow to change the input voltage between 5 12 and 24v which for a 3d printer would be nice to get rid of the DC-DC step down converter or buck converter. I would never compromise the reliability of a machine using cheaper electronics because i've learnt that in time you will pay more for less and you will waste time for fixing and replacing instead of using the machine
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What is he trying to explain? Bro is struggling with himself.
He's saying that some people bash raspberry pi without considering the reasons people might want to use one, such as GPIO, low power consumption, low cost, and good official and community support.
he has a mental disorder and drinks constantly
@@_Jayanky_thanks. Now I don't have to watch the video
@@shiro5392 Same here. Pretty low value content.
@@Krischi6 I got to about 5 and that was painful. Guy is a genuine WANKER!
Either you are a madman that pretends to talk like a maniac or you are drunk, very very drunk. At least you "do things"...
"important people talk a lot and i am important" he said 15 minutes into a rant stapled on to a 10 minute pi video.
Timestamp or it didn't happen lmao
sure. unfortunately i don't care enough to even bother. i mean unfortunate for you i guess.
I've been listening for seven minutes and I haven't heard any substance, you might be right but my time is limited. I do things.
Dude get to your point already 3 mins in and this is a snooze fest
I stopped watching 1 minute in lmfao
This guy is so cringe
I am glad it's not just me. Bitching about noobs is one thing but get to the point.
So explain to me, how the Rasp Pi 4A I mean 5 is better than the orange Pi 5+? Or how the Rasp Pi 4B is better than the orange Pi 3B? Or how the Rasp Pi is better than the OpiZ2W & 3? Esp that last one were the cheapest 18$ model Z2W is 18$ CAD & has a quad 1.5Ghz cpu? Also let's just mention.... Idk RADXA. Radxa Zero, Zero 2, Zero 3, esp Zero 2 Pro with 8GB of ram (also OpiZ2W has up to 4GB ddr5 for 33$ CAD) BUT what I care about the most is the Rock5b the Opi5+ or 5B or 5. But I'm gonna talk about 5+. Up to 32GB ram dual channel. 2280 m key PCI for NVME gen 3, 256GB EMMC, faster SD speeds. RTC input, speaker input. 2 USB 3.0 + a 3.0 type C that's also DP1.4, 2 FULL SIZE HDMI put 8k 60, 1 HDMI in 4k 60. 2 RJ45, WIFI 6, BT NEWEST 5.2? Which is optional since it uses PCI e key and adapters exist. This could be GSM or another NVME, 8 cores. It's 4 eff cores are same as entire Rpi,4B and it's other 4 same as Rpi5..... It would take both a Rpi4B and 4A I mean 5 to even get close to these specs. 2 USB 2. 40 GPIO. Over a dozen or two OS available. And best part all that without a f ING hat or attachment. Sure Rpi5 has PCI as a pinout you need to pay to have it be useful. It's SD speeds are Slower. No EMMC. Single chip ram so could be DDR5 would stil be slower. No NEON no npu at 6 TOPS, it's just a 4 with a new meh cpu slightly faster SD which the rest of us have left behind. It's performance is meh. It's price is meh. It was severely outdated on announcement. It's crap..your a bootlicking brown noser. Your opinion sucks. You come off like an asshole. You deserve bad things for being such an overly judgemental unstable reviewer. Pay more money for garbage. Nobodies stopping you. But for the price of a 5 I'll snag a 3B orange Pi, slap a NVME on it. Slap some NVME on it. Toss that dumb SD away. Use Rpi3 cases cause let's not waste.
The ONLY good thing to come from the Rpi5 was 5v5a psu. Despite the literally superior in every actual real tangible metric, the Pi 5 family only needs 4a. But I want a 5a just cause I'm going to attach a Mipi DSI touch screen. Oh and it's got headphone jack which doubles as AV out so that's what like 5 displays and we haven't even talked GPIO out. And it's GPU MOPS the floor with the rest. So you babbling like a tantrum child made me rant. And the Opi5+ isn't the only one, rockpi5b nano Pi t6 and a few more. But the thing Opi's have they don't. 32GB ram. Rockpi's max is 24.
welcome to youtube. you will find chapters of the video somewhere near the player. instead of complaining in the comments section, just skip the intro next time.
He feels himself way too much. What is he even trying to say?! You can’t make a over 30 minute video just talking crap.
4 mins and still waffling incoherently .... if you're gonna clickbait, don't waffle once you've reeled a sucker in. See ya !
*adjusts 'dont recommend channel' setting*
Definitely agreed. The aether at large often seem to obsess over raw numbers. how cheap is it? how fast is it? etc.
These are important metrics for sure, and mission critical in some applications but they don't tell the whole story. Sure I can pick up many of the other development boards out there and do things on em but without the wealth of accessible knowledge, an ecosystem of hardware addons, tutorials, community support and other ancilliary resources to go with them, I'm gonna have a harder time actually doing the things I want to do.
Exactly why I choose raspberry pis. I'm not looking to rewrite the kernel to do something with it. Pi has all the software support.
There is software cost, and then there is maintenance cost.
Time is money.
Production Triangle, "Time, Quality, Cost, pick two", with the Pi over the last decade I have gotten very close to having all three. Hardware with software development time for a product has gone from 6 months to a few weeks.
This. It doesn't matter how much faster the competition clocks at on a benchmark test, if it either flat out doesn't work for real world applications or takes weeks and weeks of dev work to get simple things up and running. Netplan on the RockPi 4C is a prime example.
@@dr.benjaminbird7631 2 Weeks to make the hardware and write software, debug and test everything, with Pi and the right RAD tools I can do that now. With practice and off the shelf hardware and fancy 3D printers etc I truly expect that projects could be done in 6 hours. But I will need to get much better at CNCing, Kicad, FreeCad and Blender before that happens and of course I will do it all on a Pi5 or Pi500.
Personally my main reason for using Pi's were emulation and media setup boxes but in the end for the price of a Pi + case and all the stuff here in Canada I could get a cheap second hand mini PC for cheaper. Plus having other sbc's being more powerful while yes are a bit more money I'm happy to pay. I'll probably skip on the Pi5, pretty disappointed with PCIE 2.0 and those micro hdmi's.
Someone took the wrong meds.
This guy sounds so toxic.
Why don’t you just get on with it ,your long winded
You will have people who understand five programming languages with multiple certs. But they cannot understand the concept of "use case" and how their's might be different from someone elses.😂
I don't like the lack of a headphone jack. Other than that I think they did good. What they should do... is take one of these wanna be Raspberry Pi companies and license them to produce Pis for them. In turn the partnership could benefit whatever product that company already sells. Maybe they could produce more than one model that has a better processor, or better graphics hardware, or a model with a headphone jack. I'll probably be getting at least 2 Pi5s at retail price when available. One nice thing is the Pi4 can still be a good choice.
yeah but it can be waterproof, just like an iPhone, at a fraction of the price 🙂
The analog audio on the RPi's wasn't the best to begin with. Basically a PWM generated 11 bit signal. the HDMI audio is better and for a couple of bucks you can add a usb DAC. There also are some very good audio hats.
@Diggnuts The jack audio was just fine. I watch movies and listen to music on a boombox pi4. Hdmi, you're depending on TV audio and speakers being good, most are not. So, now I'll need to buy a dac or Bluetooth. Bluetooth was for the game controller. It's all going to end up using more power on top of the 2 extra amps.
@@pgtmr2713 The PWM audio was terrible! Good enough for some applications, but certainly not for outputting music on A semi decent HIFI set.
It's like comparing composite video to 1080p60fps HDMI.
@Diggnuts No it's not. Maybe it's your setup. Is it the best no, is it what you're describing, not even close.
Seen many Alt Pi fanboys. For me it is not about the hardware, this stuff needs software to do anything. Best software support is on Pi's.
Alt Pis are still very reliable, especially for commercial applications. You don't need "software support" to design things that are more sophisticated than an RC toy on wheels that he has. Because apparently that's all that Raspberry Pi fans are doing. As long as they're not selling the Pis for the MSRP, Alt Pis will always be viable. Especially the likes of Orange Pi Zero 3 with 4GB RAM that sells for like $25.
@@one_step_sideways I use Ultibo, a baremetal toolset, no Linux is used in my apps. Ultibo does not do other SBCs except Pi's, yet.
I use a variety of SBCs in my setup.
Rockin a Pi4 8gb as a Router OpenWRT
Pi3a+ with PiOS and PiHole as the DNS Server over Wifi
Pi 4 8gb with Ubuntu Server and OpenMediaVault over WIFI as NAS
TinkerBoard with NEMs Linux to monitor the constant addition of new SBCs that are doing certain roles all over this little Pi Powered WIFI OpenWRT network
The Workstation I use to administer this is a Raspberry Pi 400 dual screens with Ubuntu 22.04
I’m right now popping in an Odroid XU4 in the network as a Kali Linux box to remote/ssh into and gain knowledge of doing proactive network testing
I find fan buying over a certain SBC is not necessary lol.
I use what works for the given application I’m attempting to accomplish.
Yes I have a lot of Pi’s
I also have Jetson Nano boards and tinker with AI and AR and I have a Intel Realsense Camera and Intel Neural Compute Stick
So whatever works
As long as it ties into my DIY OpenWRT Pi Router Network. I just keep them segmented off from my main network
Also have a NUC to, 7th Gen. I run Windows Server 2016 on it. Share some files with it. And the OpenMediaVault is my Media Storage.
Lastly a Mac mini with MacOS to handle the iTunes storage and streaming
RPi was NOT supposed to be a "hobbyist board".
The original RPi was envisioned as a cheap computer that you can connect to a TV and a keyboard and use it as a prop to teach and learn computer technology, programming, electronics and have fun in a very accessible way. The idea was based on the way Commodore 64 was used back in the day, a computer that inspired many current engineers when they were boys, including the creators of RPi.
Hobbyist were covered at that time by Arduino boards. They still are covered by Arduino and other cheaper boards. You don't need a $50 linux computer to blink leds and read buttons.
Ham Radio enthusiasts are hobbyists by definition and now look what they do with electronics beyond blinking leds.
@@VolkerHett I don't know much about Ham Radio guys, I know they connect SDR boards to computers and make things work over RF.
What does it have to do with the purpose RPi was created?
"...teach and learn computer technology, programming, electronics and have fun in a very accessible way."
On what goddamn earth is this not describing a typical hobby type activity? This is revisionism of the highest degree. I suppose Commodore 64s weren't for hobbiests either, purely for teaching and learning only, or A grade industrial use.
The RPi was not (only) created to blink some LEDs. SDR is one way of using a Pi, a satellite tracker is another or a radio repeater. Older IEEE-488 (HPIB) instruments can be used with a RPi, like the ancient but still very precise HP lab voltmeters and so on.
@@batner
@@ivolol I am not arguing, i'm just repeating what RPi creators said. "Hobby" is a generic term. RPi hit a spot that no one expected to be in such demand. A small and weak arm-linux computer was not a surprise in 2012. BeagleBoard was available and pretty popular at the time.
Anti-noob elitism
All of the haters out there coming right back to RPi as soon as they announce a new one lol
I always call them nuck. Calling them nuke is dumb. Makes you sound you're kim jong un
I sure wish this guy could get to the point a little quicker. I'm 11 minutes in and still no point so I'm leaving.
Eli for world leader. Obviously he's smarter than everyone else in the world as we're all idiots...
not sure if being sarcastic or not
@@Walker956 I am.
He is Über annoying. Trying to show himself as the top guy. I did quit at 08:00.
Is he off his meds or is this just what passes for normal with this guy?
@@michelbrisebois4317 3-4 minutes for me.
To me power consumption to power required is a big thing for me, something you didn't mention much. A server running 24/7 that doesn't need high performance will probably use less power on a raspberry pi than just the fan on a old intel Mac and probably make only a few milliseconds difference in response times for some applications. This power difference will impact lifetime cost, heat, noise, climate change, etc. It may not be a huge difference but it can add up.
Can you underclock to get power consumption down?
Most NUCs using the N100 uses between 10W and 25W depending on the usage. That's a maximum of 5W more than the RPi 5 for much more performance.
I like RPi, I just wish they did better on the 5.
@@SuperFranzs a rpi sitting at idle for 23 hours a day will use only a few watts for most of the day. rpi zero uses about 1 watt and runs many applications just fine if headless. that's 9-24 watts less that N100. Much less powerful but many applications don't significantly benefit from more power. rpi 5 at 20W is based on a lot of connected peripherals. I doubt it will use anywhere near that headless and idle as a server without spinning external harddrives.
@@anantakrishna4462 I agree that the RPi 0 is worth it. I hope the RPi5 uses less power than it seems. We'll se once they start shipping them to non-shills.
Well, you must really be IMPORTANT, because you obviously think you are, and you spent all that time flapping your gums to prove it. I watched the whole thing because the title lead me to believe you might have something to say that I would be interested in. Turns out it could all have been covered in about three minutes. In case you missed it, I don't like the snark. Won't be watching any more of your stuff.
Esp32 boards? also a good solution for robots
It is still very hard to buy Raspberry PIs. I went to my local Microcenter last week, no Raspberry PIs available. I tried to get Pico's instead, and I was allowed to get just 1. Now they are introducing an RP5, so the chances of ever getting this is very suspect. I do wonder if the company is financially sound.
Checked stock of a large EU distributor (Farnell) 2 or 3 days ago. They had about 500 Pi4 8GB. Today they have zero, restocking will happen in about 1 month.
My theory for them pre announcing the pi 5 (they normally don't) is that they're having to transfer manufacturing from the pi 4 to 5. So production of pi 4s is going to go down, but not because of chip shortages.
In prior cycles they could build up a stock of the old model to get them over the hump, but due the chip shortages they haven't been able to do that, so pre announcement is a good way of cutting demand for the pi 4.
Don't forget old used thin clients off of eBay those are pretty awesome I've used two of them for a couple different things they work good and are super cheap. To be clear for a server not for a robot.
The pi shop already has the nvme adapter for sale! Can’t wait for mine.
i buy their boards because their a good company, not because i want the best hardware, plus for the price(at least msrp) this thing is a beast in its price range(for what it is, you could buy a cheap used office laptop slap ubuntu on it and it will be a powerhouse compared to any SBC)
I agree with pretty much everything he said, but god is he annoying. It's at 606 upvotes now to 779 downvotes, so good job. Is he this arrogant because he deals with kids all day? He needs to be reminded teachers are where they are because they couldn't make it in the private sector. I feel bad for his students.
He actually made a point besides a rant? I gave up about 3-4 minutes in. He was doing a self reach around on how smart he is and everyone else is inferior up to that point.
@@dlewis9760 which is kind of hilarious for a teacher to think.
Life is short! Laugh at the noobs and buy a pi 5… don’t forget a passive cooler and a clock battery!
and the pci hat and the ...
.... power supply
Yeah I keep forgetting their are quite amount of addons one needs for using a pi!
When I watch you, I have the internal feeling that I am watching an angry monkey that will punch me in the face any moment.
How about having a time stamp to bypass all the ego BS
"I talk about what I am doing....." Don't GAF. Heard that and I'm typing this now. 3 minutes in and you haven't said anything. Waste of time. Update, read the comments and I see that others agree. I'm ambivalent about these things and wanted to see if with a little passage of time with this latest one in people's hands, what something other than the initial "Hot Take" would be. Certainly didn't find it here.
So, do you like Raspberry PI or not? Tell us what you really think.
Anyway, thanks for your honesty and intelligence and humor. 😊
Thanks for putting yourself out there and saying what needed to be said. I'm still astounded at how many people get RasPis who never even touch the GPIO port. I feel they're missing the point.
@@FuskerFisker-zn7zy Exactly. People out there complaining for the last four years about how the Pi4 doesn't work well with two 4k video screens and I'm like "You guys use monitors?" Most of my projects don't even have a desktop installed for the OS.
Agreed. Most of my projects are headless or use a tiny screen for some basic I/O interaction.
@@jennasyseng a lot of people use RPi for digital signage. It's one of the most viable option for such things.
The problem is how the pi is marketed. Dual 4K monitor outputs? Maybe the problem is it can run an OS😆
@@dbsirius would have been nice if these needless DP lanes could be reconfigured as PCIe lanes when unused (e.g., like with the Xilinx tranaceivers).
"Not Intel NUC, don't you know the difference"
"Just buy a Mac Mini"
Hmm.
I use PI's for digital signage and animated light shows and sometimes light PC's for remote RDS terminals. The reason I continue to use them is support and Ecosystem while still being open source!
hm, one can always learn what are you by listening what you think about the others
It's obvious everyone he's ever been in contact with is inferior to him.
Raspberry pi 5 is basically out of stuck. So in fact I cannot go back.
"Everybody wants to be X until it's time to do X shit."
When you get your raspberry pi is the question
90k sales a week doesn't say it's dead...
Every year, someone else says the pi is dead, and every year, they continue to make sales.
I know what you're not doing --- getting a headfull of hair ...
The Raspberry Foundation is not listening to people needs. Many people need ssd or m.2, But they don’t listen.😢
I love raspberry pies, they are delicious.🍇
Yeah, not everyone understands that people use Raspberry Pi for different reasons. But, this video is 34 minutes of blah blah blah blah blah...
I actually agree with your n00bs statement. Mainly because veteran tinkerers don’t care if a company prioritizes industrial customers. They’re already used to contacting industrial-only suppliers and trying to find ways to circumvent the MOQ.
why is yt recommending me this?
Dell hasn't changed. We have a bunch of XPS 17s (like 30 of them in the office so far) that have all failed over the last three months with video memory issues causing complete freeze-ups. They are all no longer under warranty and the only fix is a motherboard replacement at $700 each!
i have a couple orangepi's that i wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.
you should try one though.
Same. It's not so much hardware, but community and company support. Orange, Khadas, and Pine. I have the Orange 4B, Khadas VIM3 Pro, as well as the Pine RockPro64 and there's no community supoort. Like almost zero.
it was bad for me cause i had just started messing with linux and i was learning how to set up raspi3b+'s and zeros. those were easy enough then i fucked around with orange pi 3's and zero's. the opi3 actually wasn't too bad but the zero is headless and took me about a week to get running and worked fine and is really neat through vnc but it was such a headache that i couldn't reproduce it when i tried. now i can't get the opi3 to run without shutting down immediately during emulation and i'm too lazy to figure it out.
@@robertoso8796 That's where the RPI and Odroid really shine. They have a much greater community to turn to for easy, or easier anyway, answers.
Someone's been feeding the bears...
nuc rhymes with duck
Off/On button on the RPi5. Puts October 2023 up there with July 1969 !
He is missing the whole point. The Pi has a lot of blobs and non-standard proprietary stuff. The kernel is created by the Pi foundation. The firmware is proprietary. None of this helps upstream kernel development on Arm because they have nothing to contribute to the mainline kernel because of compatibility reasons. It doesn't run Debian because it can't run debian. They benefit from Debian but contribute nothing to Debian. The CPU is 16nm in 2023. The dual 4K video is for desktop users not for IoT or industrial controls. Its not a low power device you can run on battery. Its also not cheap. The Pi only looks good if you have no idea what you are doing.
The RPI 5 is not designed for small battery powered IOT. They have other versions like the Zero or pico for that solution and if you’re using an RPI 5 for industrial control I question your sanity.
The RPI 4 and 5 are built for their original mission statement. Education. And for that they are outstanding.
I wonder if this will actually be able to emulate Saturn games at a solid 60 fps with Retropie. Small SoC ARM based platforms can't properly emulate obscure architecture like Saturn (multiple sound chips) so it will be interesting to see what it can do
It wont. Rpckpi cant do it either, its faster than Rpi 5
Tegra X1 in the sheild had no issue with Saturn.
Very much enjoyed this mini pc/bords overview, thank you so much.
Got an 8G Rpi 5 sitting right here on my shelf, ~$86.
0:46 I guess he already earned the like
Can soneone give a summary of this video
I’m sure ChatGPT can!
Blabla I turned off before he get to the point, if he ever got there..
Love the content Eli, have a like and a comment to drive the algorithm.
thanks for the video, what mic are you using?
A 2014 Mac Mini for just run Pi-hole, sounds not environmentally friendly.
yuo could use a RPi zero w for a pihole, for a fraction of the cost of that Mac, plus the 1W power consumption of the rpizw/board size
just remember you were a noob once 😊
I got two pine berry m.2 adapters just waiting for my pi 5s to ship…
Great video.
I have a usecase where I use one of my RaspBerry PI 4's as a portable development server - a cheap NUC or used Mac Mini is perfect for that - but they are biggerM and the PSU is much bigger. My Pi 4 runs in a comapct powerbank. The disk I/O is a bit sluggish, so I will upgrade to a Pi 5 - it has much faster i/o as well as built-in PCi-e.
Few years ago I bought a Raspberry Pi zero W for this very purpose. Unfortunately I never actually did the project but I thought it would be a good idea.
HardKernel and their Odroids have been pretty good to me. Reasonable price, reasonable support, stable products. 👍
My experience with the Jetson Nano is that its way way too proprietary. I been stuck with their distro for a long time. There is some Armbian support now but was still iffy last I checked. One time it fried a TF card. Dunno if it was the Jetson's fault or a USB harddrive I had plugged into it. I did try to do AI stuff with it but I couldn't get their stuff to compile. They didn't update their tutorials with the changes they been making.
BTW: If their words didn't matter, why you replying to them?? 🤔
They mattered enough for you to respond to them with a video.
I never heard of the Libre Computers until now. I appreciate the awareness. I don't need one but I will keep an eye out in the future. For the low price its worth the curiosity.
I have multiple pi's 0, 02 W, 3 b and 0/plus, 4 that has a 4gig and 8gif version. I use them for different things. I have a few picos ro teach micro python and electronics ro my son. His school soes not teach anything like that in primary school. So used them all for different things. I use my 3s doe robotics. Pi 5 is interesting for ai but need to learn about it
I use a variety of SBCs in my setup.
Rockin a Pi4 8gb as a Router OpenWRT
Pi3a+ with PiOS and PiHole as the DNS Server over Wifi
Pi 4 8gb with Ubuntu Server and OpenMediaVault over WIFI as NAS
TinkerBoard with NEMs Linux to monitor the constant addition of new SBCs that are doing certain roles all over this little Pi Powered WIFI OpenWRT network
The Workstation I use to administer this is a Raspberry Pi 400 dual screens with Ubuntu 22.04
I’m right now popping in an Odroid XU4 in the network as a Kali Linux box to remote/ssh into and gain knowledge of doing proactive network testing
I find fan buying over a certain SBC is not necessary lol.
I use what works for the given application I’m attempting to accomplish.
Yes I have a lot of Pi’s
I also have Jetson Nano boards and tinker with AI and AR and I have a Intel Realsense Camera and Intel Neural Compute Stick
So whatever works
As long as it ties into my DIY OpenWRT Pi Router Network. I just keep them segmented off from my main network
Also have a NUC to, 7th Gen. I run Windows Server 2016 on it. Share some files with it. And the OpenMediaVault is my Media Storage.
Lastly a Mac mini with MacOS to handle the iTunes storage and streaming
If you used an Intel NUC instead of a raspberry Pi, that could be RISC-Y 🤦♂️🤣 actually I have one of those boards too, but I haven't unboxed it yet for a video. And my PI-5 finally showed up after 3 months. I could have sworn I ordered it then I couldn't find the order and then it showed up after I forgot 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I have many RPI's gathering dust in my desk....junk. But I do have one doing useful stuff for me with Volumio.
I am thinking of the Pi-5 as a desktop / entertainment center PC. Most of my video is off TH-cam or Amazon. They limit rented videos to SD on linux, as far as I know. My situation requires a very well cooled machine, because I do not have AC. My video requirements are rather low two 1080-ish screens at best. (1920x1200 for the win! ) The Pi 4 runs ok as a desktop for me, but a Pi 5 will handle the video side better. Mx Linux for the Pi is great, fo the 4 or 8 GB ram versions. I found the Thorium fork of Chromium to work well on the Pi 4. The Pi is dead the same way COBOL is dead. For what it does there ain't much better. BTW a Pi can emulate DOS PCs or old Mainframes very well. Good Luck!
I love repurposing old hardware to run Linux . Plus, these old boxes are so cheap sometimes that I can keep one going for any “left field” or less common OS that I want to mess around with just for fun,
For those people we can classify them much more easier who is smart and who is dumb.
A point A foundation is designed to make one think it is a charity, but that is only a superficial aspect that is used by certain trust and business complexes in substitution of taxes where the Founder decides how that money is spent and at a minimum. Some may be what hey appear to be,
if im buying a pi its not for AI or a desktop its for me to run my emulation which i love on the pi its small and sexy and has huggggeee support i like nvidia but there support is rubbish in the ordinary folks world and nvidia always shaft everybody , rpi5 is what you want to do with it even now its desktop is actually very fast with two monitors very nice , if i wanted something with mega speed i would build a tiny pc but that defeats the object.
I think what folks don’t understand is those who provide value when they talk are doing the last step in the process. First you have to listen.. a lot. Because your words Tony have value if they aren’t tailored to the problem the other person is trying to solve.
OMG realises he's been talking about himself lol 30:07... YOU! hahahaha
I am surprised nobody recommended Orange Pi. It was the go to pi for awhile far superior in power, price and capabilities compared to the pi4 when the pi was being sold for for so much. Now that the pi5 is coming out and pi4 prices are dropping, for what your doing I wouldn't recommend Orange to you. Just odd people recommend those known shitty pi knock offs and not Orange Pi. Goes to exactly what your point of the video was, people just talking shit. Although I do kinda want to fight you on the NUC thing but for what you are doing its horrible alternative. I save that fight for when you get into more complicated projects. LOL
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Oh we just use Beagle Bone Blacks and the family of devices. pfftt.
won't ever buy Pi5s - but I bought a couple of Pi3s recently because they need less power and I need them for custom HATs 🥰 Starting with Pi4 the Pis are not the SBCs anymore what they were starting with the first Pis what is very sad.
Keep doin’ what you’re doin’. Don’t be bothered by the idiots. There are too many around these days.
Eli, I for one, appreciate the detail. Thank you! Keep up the good work. I want to get more into robotics and home automation as well as remote communication with home monitoring/automation systems and servers. Dang work is impeding my fun! Well, I like my work also… Anyway, take care!
It’s like I want to like the video and at the same time about to break my phone. Could you please tell me what the dislike to like ratio?
Just wasted my whole time sorry. Nothing here. Dear TH-cam God, I can’t buy R pie! They are selling for 3 to 10 times the prices you keep on saying! Lord thank you for creating these beautiful people, please look after them. lol
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@@dlewis9760 No love lost. Just need to take my meds on time to watch your other videos. :) you sick puppy getting all the powers from dislikes. LOL
You mentioned about a Bluetooth stacker and $10. Do you have a video or tutorial on how to make the tracker you mentioned?
Sorry, I thought the RPi was dead at model 4. I have moved on. I am sure the fan boys will keep the myth alive.
Ikr? Orange Pi Zero 3 with 4GB LPDDR3 RAM for $25 blows the likes of RPi 3+ out of the water. And you can still get LEDs to blink there. And so much more.
@@one_step_sidewaysallwinner ? Seriously, support is crap. Dont buy it
@@MrDesillu No, it's not.
34 minutes of telling BS. Just tell WHY RPi5 is dead!?
Completely agree with you, give someone a decent solution and they will always come back. I was at a client just doing a simple firewall change and at lunch they were discussing changing isp buy a big bang solution…. I said noooo just put another network card in the router and set up rule based routing, then you can change over services one by one. I did I for them and then forevermore they asked for me to come back.
What about OrangePi5/5Plus and Radxa 5B - same amount of GPIO, 8-core up to 16Gb ram standard PCiE slots. They where available during the Pi shortage with no problems.
$170-$200 piece for those... at that level I'd rather for for a Jetson...
Got a raspberry pi 4b last week and got volumio installed on one micro sd card. I'm having a hard time setting up a FreeNFS server on my laptop to share music files over LAN for the rpi to play 😕
whjy the heck does he pronouce nucs as nukes.... that just sound wrong!
uck not ook sounding....
Personally i like the Latte panda Delta 3 but that mostly because i need the USB-c display port and extra usbs for pheriperal and then i might get into using the gpio port for some sensors i can easily get to work over usb-c
Why cuz tons of people do...that's the ONLY way I've heard it pronounced
What about odroid h3s
I use the RK3588 as an headless Linux server on the go. I am thinking about getting another one with desktop. There is no advantage for me to get a RPi5.
I might buy one. How is the experience? Can you boot from the SSD mount? Where do you suggest I buy one?
people these days don't use common sense each individual thinks he has priority they don't understand that lots of people will be left with no jobs if their companies aren't able to get these pieces of tech. I am in DIY 3D printers and we also use PI but i can understand that my hobby can wait. I had because of the shortage to change to alternatives like orange pi and other Chinese SBC but as soon as PI were back on stock i ordered them since the alternatives are not so reliable well documented or feature rich. The only smart feature i've seen on some of them especially for 3d printers and i wish raspberry would do the same on pi5 but they didn't is to allow to change the input voltage between 5 12 and 24v which for a 3d printer would be nice to get rid of the DC-DC step down converter or buck converter. I would never compromise the reliability of a machine using cheaper electronics because i've learnt that in time you will pay more for less and you will waste time for fixing and replacing instead of using the machine
A proud member of the cult
Your comment about Dell also applies to Gigabyte sadly
What unit crest is that?
2x speed was still too slow. Bro needs a script