Glad to see this video, a pi 5 and Argon One NVME case are exactly what I asked for for my birthday! I've been using a pi 4 and an Argon One SATA case for some time now, and have been very happy with the setup.
The sata case was ok , it was limited by the usb3 , and it didn’t like multiple tasks , this new one is silly fast , I ran the pi benchmarks and got 60k score
I have the same case for my pi 4 as well. I accidentally purchased an NVMe drive not realizing my case was SATA. Bought a SATA drive and an NVMe enclosure then found Argon has an NVMe base available… it’s all still bottle necked through the usb3 port though so seeing them use PCIe for the 5 is wonderful
Thanks for the demo, I have one arriving tomorrow. A little hint on the thermal transfer, just peel off one side, apply that side to the component then it is easier to peel off the other side.
4:20 The black screw that secures the NVME drive is inserted into a brass nut that can be loosened with a pair of needle nose pliers. It took me longer than I would like to admit to figure out how to move the mounting screw.
*Important Update:* I just bought a Raspberry Pi 5 and _did not need to use an SD-card first,_ for when you power up the device, the firmware will let you install via network and directly to the SSD. I used a wired network, but I guess it would work via wireless, too, at least I saw the respective settings. Greetings from Vienna
I have 2 of these for the Pi4 8GiB; My Middle daughter & I built them as Christmas Presents from Santa, She was 10, TwisterPi Installed on 256Gig SSDs. I had my eye on it for a while with the Pi3, Glad I waited a few more months for the Pi4 to come out New Sub; Detroit, Michigan, US
at least you were able to get one, I have been trying since day one and its always out of stock. when I got ahold of someone there they said just wait till its back in stock its been months and no change on stock. :(
@@r0galikno real point though as the unit will be closed up during use. Also, the bottom folds out of the way giving some access to the card, it’s not as it if loops over like the Geeekpi hats do. The Pimoroni hat does have an offset cable, but it’s also mounted securely at all times and still allows access to everything. The Argon case must be opened up for any access other than GPIO anyway so why make it anymore complex?
Pi foundation screwed that up by putting the card reader right underneath the cable socket. As well as they refuse to use USB Power Delivery to get power to the Pi so you need all these non-standard power supplies that exceed the amps for 5V USB power, stupid.
@@ivolol USB PD is worse for devices that don't have a battery, as the negotiation can fail if the hardware is not properly thought out (like Rock 5b, for example). Not using PD is reasonable, but what's not reasonable is having a 5 amp power supply. 12 volt 2 amp would do the same and be much easier for people to replace or improve. But they wanted to save a few cents on power conversion lol.
Hi, thanks for the great video. I have got exactly this rig, but with a Crucial 1TB SSD. After I loaded up the normal RPi OS, I installed the Argon scripts for controlling the fan and power button and everything works fine - fan cuts in and out as the temp rises and falls. However, I got this rig specifically to run Home Assistant OS. So, having loaded the HA OS, all works fine, but because the OS is a hybrid, the Argon scripts won't load and run, hence now way to control the fan etc. I currently have an RPi4 in an Argon M.2 V2 case and use an custom integration "Active Cooling and Active Linear Cooling" addon to control the fan which works brilliantly. Sadly the addon is not compatible with v3 of the Argon case, so at the moment, whilst I can run HA on the RPi 5 in the V3 case, I have no way to control the fan. Any ideas?
@@StuBoyUK no , i think because I did a clean install it configured itself . The command you mention is used I presume if you copy over a existing install and it will not see the ssd
Good video but I do have a question. Why would one use the Pi Imager Tool to flash the MicroSD, just to boot the ready to use system up from it and run the Pi Imager or similar on it again with the NVMe drive instead of just flashing to the NVMe directly and perhaps resizing partitions if needed with something like GParted?
There are many ways of doing this . As this was a new unit and I didn’t know how and if it worked I wanted to do step by step so any issues could be found . This was just the way I know and wanted to put a fresh operating system onto the drive .
The case does get toasty when under stress , sits about 40 to 50 degrees , putting the Argon fan control software on works and keeps it from overheating.
Hi, thanks for the great video, very instructional esp or newbie like me. Btw, how did you install Webmin into the raspberry pi os (still very new to linux).
I got mine. Was excited, but now fighting to get it to work. I can't get video out of the HDMI connector. My pi works fine otherwise so I'm at a lost why hooking up the attachment board would result in no video.
No need to reinstall the OS with RPi Imager fresh on the M.2 drive if you've already got it booted from the MicroSD... Just use the SD Copier and copy it directly to the M.2 drive. Power down, remove MicroSD card, reboot, done. Flashing a clean install to the M.2 directly from a clean install on the MicroSD is a waste of time causing you to have to repeat setup steps unnecessarily.
Another unnecessarily convoluted way of doing it, yes... The SD Copier application is built into the Raspberry Pi OS for good reason: exactly this use lol. It saves you from having to reconfigure everything when moving to a new drive
Hi I like this case, but there is allready option to ((have 2tb w pimoroni nvme duo board)) I would like to find nice argon, metal something case to run it with a fan on top any tips ::-) ??? and do u happen to know whether someone is designing case to fit all thease reguairments including extension board to hdmi & standard charging cable options ::-)
I just got mine today and I'm using the official raspberry pi 5 power supply and it's telling me that it's not powerful enough and restricting the USB Ports.
You need to be able to change boot devices from the raspberry pi itself without having to rely on the Micro SD cards and the operating system. Which you can only do from Raspbian I believe because there's no option to change the boot device in Ubuntu. Having to switch between the SD card is a pain in the ass and time consuming. You should be able to do it from NETBOOT at the very least so that after you're done installing the OS from NETBOOT you can just change the boot Device to the Device that you installed it on because when I've tried installing an OS from NETBOOT it doesn't just reboot into the new OS and the Device you installed it on it just goes back into booting from/to NETBOOT.
You have to rely on Raspbian no offense to raspbian but I don't want to use it as my main desktop or daily driver so it's pretty much just for recovery or rescue purposes.
@@MicroChipz You did install a new 64bit OS. There's no need to do it TWICE. Thus why I said REinstall. You just use the SD Card Copier tool to bounce what you had on the SD card to the NVMe drive. Zero difference in the outcome.
@@sir_whocampsalot2876 You did not understand that comment. But going in your direction, one was a LOT more work. So why teach people the wrong and harder way?
Hi. My reason for this was i wanted a fresh install and use of the 64bit os available.Also because this was new i wanted to test all steps to make sure everything went smooth . I know you can copy the sd card etc. Hey it worked :)
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Glad to see this video, a pi 5 and Argon One NVME case are exactly what I asked for for my birthday! I've been using a pi 4 and an Argon One SATA case for some time now, and have been very happy with the setup.
The sata case was ok , it was limited by the usb3 , and it didn’t like multiple tasks , this new one is silly fast , I ran the pi benchmarks and got 60k score
I have the same case for my pi 4 as well. I accidentally purchased an NVMe drive not realizing my case was SATA. Bought a SATA drive and an NVMe enclosure then found Argon has an NVMe base available… it’s all still bottle necked through the usb3 port though so seeing them use PCIe for the 5 is wonderful
Thanks for the demo, I have one arriving tomorrow. A little hint on the thermal transfer, just peel off one side, apply that side to the component then it is easier to peel off the other side.
Thanks for the info!
4:20 The black screw that secures the NVME drive is inserted into a brass nut that can be loosened with a pair of needle nose pliers. It took me longer than I would like to admit to figure out how to move the mounting screw.
*Important Update:*
I just bought a Raspberry Pi 5 and _did not need to use an SD-card first,_ for when you power up the device, the firmware will let you install via network and directly to the SSD. I used a wired network, but I guess it would work via wireless, too, at least I saw the respective settings.
Greetings from Vienna
Now that's defiantly interesting.
I have 2 of these for the Pi4 8GiB;
My Middle daughter & I built them as Christmas Presents from Santa, She was 10, TwisterPi Installed on 256Gig SSDs.
I had my eye on it for a while with the Pi3, Glad I waited a few more months for the Pi4 to come out
New Sub; Detroit, Michigan, US
Thanks , the pi4 is a very capable machine , however this pi5 is a monster ;)
best video for argon one v3
Glad you liked it
well done, concise and clear.
Thanks
Thanks for sharing the video. It would be nice to see some nvme disk benchmarks as well...
I see a 3.5mm audio out jack above the HDMI ports. Is it active, or do you need to purchase a DAC and install to activate audio?
nice thx, just ordered
Have fun!
at least you were able to get one, I have been trying since day one and its always out of stock. when I got ahold of someone there they said just wait till its back in stock its been months and no change on stock. :(
I can't believe Argon didn't use an offset ribbon cable for the PCIE connection. As it is, the SD slot is blocked completely when connected.
I suppose they think you wont be using a sd card anymore as using the NVME is faster.
@@MicroChipz nice to have the option to use it still.
@@r0galikno real point though as the unit will be closed up during use. Also, the bottom folds out of the way giving some access to the card, it’s not as it if loops over like the Geeekpi hats do. The Pimoroni hat does have an offset cable, but it’s also mounted securely at all times and still allows access to everything. The Argon case must be opened up for any access other than GPIO anyway so why make it anymore complex?
Pi foundation screwed that up by putting the card reader right underneath the cable socket. As well as they refuse to use USB Power Delivery to get power to the Pi so you need all these non-standard power supplies that exceed the amps for 5V USB power, stupid.
@@ivolol USB PD is worse for devices that don't have a battery, as the negotiation can fail if the hardware is not properly thought out (like Rock 5b, for example). Not using PD is reasonable, but what's not reasonable is having a 5 amp power supply. 12 volt 2 amp would do the same and be much easier for people to replace or improve. But they wanted to save a few cents on power conversion lol.
Hi, thanks for the great video.
I have got exactly this rig, but with a Crucial 1TB SSD.
After I loaded up the normal RPi OS, I installed the Argon scripts for controlling the fan and power button and everything works fine - fan cuts in and out as the temp rises and falls.
However, I got this rig specifically to run Home Assistant OS. So, having loaded the HA OS, all works fine, but because the OS is a hybrid, the Argon scripts won't load and run, hence now way to control the fan etc.
I currently have an RPi4 in an Argon M.2 V2 case and use an custom integration "Active Cooling and Active Linear Cooling" addon to control the fan which works brilliantly. Sadly the addon is not compatible with v3 of the Argon case, so at the moment, whilst I can run HA on the RPi 5 in the V3 case, I have no way to control the fan.
Any ideas?
It looks like a python script that runs from startup, I would start there
Great video did you use sudo rasppi-config to set PcI to gen 3?
@@StuBoyUK no , i think because I did a clean install it configured itself . The command you mention is used I presume if you copy over a existing install and it will not see the ssd
Good video but I do have a question. Why would one use the Pi Imager Tool to flash the MicroSD, just to boot the ready to use system up from it and run the Pi Imager or similar on it again with the NVMe drive instead of just flashing to the NVMe directly and perhaps resizing partitions if needed with something like GParted?
There are many ways of doing this . As this was a new unit and I didn’t know how and if it worked I wanted to do step by step so any issues could be found . This was just the way I know and wanted to put a fresh operating system onto the drive .
Thank you very much
Thanks
Good video. Could you do one with this case monitoring the temperature during some stress tests?
The case does get toasty when under stress , sits about 40 to 50 degrees , putting the Argon fan control software on works and keeps it from overheating.
They should've utilized the screw holes that are on the raspberry pi to connect the daughter board to.
Hi thanks for the Video, good info, but where did you get it, no one seems to have any, I'm in the UK
Pihut
@@MicroChipz Thank you
Hi, thanks for the great video, very instructional esp or newbie like me. Btw, how did you install Webmin into the raspberry pi os (still very new to linux).
Follow the instructions on webmin site . Thanks for watching .
Great video . Well worth a watch . Love these cases
Explain ?
I got mine. Was excited, but now fighting to get it to work. I can't get video out of the HDMI connector. My pi works fine otherwise so I'm at a lost why hooking up the attachment board would result in no video.
You need to make sure the daughter board is pushed in fully
No need to reinstall the OS with RPi Imager fresh on the M.2 drive if you've already got it booted from the MicroSD... Just use the SD Copier and copy it directly to the M.2 drive. Power down, remove MicroSD card, reboot, done. Flashing a clean install to the M.2 directly from a clean install on the MicroSD is a waste of time causing you to have to repeat setup steps unnecessarily.
Yeh this is another easy way of doing it .
Another unnecessarily convoluted way of doing it, yes... The SD Copier application is built into the Raspberry Pi OS for good reason: exactly this use lol. It saves you from having to reconfigure everything when moving to a new drive
Well for my use i wanted a fresh OS anyway, so this for me was not a problem , as i used the 64 bit os .
Thanks for the walkthrough. Does the ribbon cable for the drive come with the Argon case?
Yes it does
@@MicroChipz Great!
@@MicroChipz Great!
Hi I like this case, but there is allready option to ((have 2tb w pimoroni nvme duo board)) I would like to find nice argon, metal something case to run it with a fan on top any tips ::-) ??? and do u happen to know whether someone is designing case to fit all thease reguairments including extension board to hdmi & standard charging cable options ::-)
Not that I know of
hola, se puede acceder a la microsd o hay que desmontar la caja ?
I took the sd out before final assembly .
Does the Argon case come with the nvme pcie 3.0 board?
There are 2 versions , one with the nvme adapter, one without , if you mean does it come with a nvme ssd , no you have to buy your own.
Nice Video
Thanks
Why not flash the OS directly to the SSD with an SSD-dock, why install on the SD-card first?
I didn’t have a ssd dock , this was the easiest way for me to test it then put a new fresh os into the ssd.
@@MicroChipz Oh, ok thanks, I will try this in the coming days 👍
I just got mine today and I'm using the official raspberry pi 5 power supply and it's telling me that it's not powerful enough and restricting the USB Ports.
Try page 14 of the manual
@@MicroChipz Okay thanks. I didn't even look at the manual at least not in depth. I went straight to watching your video again.
@@MicroChipz Well that's dumb. You can't download or run the script under Ubuntu 24.04. It says Please run this under raspberry pi os.
Did you add a RTC Battery, yet?
no not yet
@@MicroChipz Do you think that there's room for it? Do you know anybody that has? I forgot to put mine in it.
You need to be able to change boot devices from the raspberry pi itself without having to rely on the Micro SD cards and the operating system. Which you can only do from Raspbian I believe because there's no option to change the boot device in Ubuntu. Having to switch between the SD card is a pain in the ass and time consuming. You should be able to do it from NETBOOT at the very least so that after you're done installing the OS from NETBOOT you can just change the boot Device to the Device that you installed it on because when I've tried installing an OS from NETBOOT it doesn't just reboot into the new OS and the Device you installed it on it just goes back into booting from/to NETBOOT.
You have to rely on Raspbian no offense to raspbian but I don't want to use it as my main desktop or daily driver so it's pretty much just for recovery or rescue purposes.
Is the wifi connection good using this case
Its a little more restricted being in a metal case , but still picking up my ap in the next room ok .
Much easier to use the SD Card Copier tool. No need to reinstall a new OS.
I wanted a new os , and especially the 64 bit os .
@@MicroChipz You did install a new 64bit OS. There's no need to do it TWICE. Thus why I said REinstall. You just use the SD Card Copier tool to bounce what you had on the SD card to the NVMe drive. Zero difference in the outcome.
I see what you mean now , I just did it the way I knew worked .
@@JustinEmlay You said it yourself, zero difference in outcome. So why does it matter the way he did it?
@@sir_whocampsalot2876 You did not understand that comment. But going in your direction, one was a LOT more work. So why teach people the wrong and harder way?
Not the best presentation. Incorrect micro sd procedure, but you made it.
Hi.
My reason for this was i wanted a fresh install and use of the 64bit os available.Also because this was new i wanted to test all steps to make sure everything went smooth .
I know you can copy the sd card etc. Hey it worked :)