Spot on. A loaded Lincoln Aviator is also around $73,000 and has a 400hp engine. I had the Lincoln, which had more than its share of problems, and just traded it for a Hyundai Palisade Calligraphy, which cost $53,000. I also owned 3 different Grand Cherokee Summits with the Pentastar. I really liked them, but they have gotten too pricey. The Palisade is a great car. Until Jeep gets real on price, these vehicles will continue to live on dealer lots, not driveways.
I’ve watched hundreds of these TH-cam vids on the Jeep GC L. Yours is the best I’ve encountered after purchasing a USED, 4,900 mile (let someone else take that $10-15k depreciation hit on this overpriced model) loaded 2023 Jeep GC L Summit Reserve with the 5.7L V8. We drove the V6 and it is underwhelming to say the least. In fact we would not own this vehicle with that Pentastar engine. That being said our fam loves this vehicle over our prior BMW X7 and Merc GL550. Your attention to detail and facts (other than the mistake about 2nd row ventilated seats which we have in the Summot Reserve) are to be commended. Plus your comments about the lagging Uconnect system is spot on. It’s a great system other than that. C’mon Jeep. Fix this. Uconnect will even get quirky at times confusing itself with another person’s profile or just switching screens randomly. Ours goes in for the backup camera recall (with which we’ve had no issues) on September 6. Hopefully that software update will fix some of the minor infotainment annoyances. You are one of the only testers to mention the Uconnect issue. We traded in our 2021 BMWX7 M50i and this vehicle is so much more user friendly and believe it or not mechanically reliable over the Hot Turbo V8 from BMW. The three things we primarily miss are soft close doors (which you mentioned), heated and cooled cup holders, and the loss in HP (357) & torque (390) in the hemi versus the 523HP/553ftlbs V8 in the M50i. The other plusses though such as Night Vision to spot deer, better massaging seats, easier 2nd and 3rd row entry, spare tire, etc. make this vehicle a much better option for us. We also love the McIntosh system being a home audiophile with a 7.2.6 McIntosh system in our family room. Thank you again for your honest and in-depth analysis.
I’ve seen these locally for about $75k - $85k. These cars should be about $55k at this trim level. Even then, over $50k for a jeep is a trail too far for me…
As a ram owner I agree the Uconnect 5 is terrible with laggy and struggles with CarPlay. Sometimes it gets stuck think CarPlay is connected and it isn’t so I have to physically shutdown the system by holding the power button.
Sofyan, this is in a class all its own. You being a car enthusiast should know the quirk of this car it's always straddled the line the L complicates things a bit.. The GC on paper may compete in both the mainstream and luxury segments which is funny because their pricing start where this tops out (lower tier no option sensatec uplulstry no off road ability at all and a little more power for their heavy SUV. Or you get a tricked out Grand Highlander and with both options the Jeep, Pentastar or not would be the one leaving them behind while they stall thinking their "SUVs" are capable of water fording or anything this can. Or do anything a minivan can't which begs the question.. Get a mini van!!!
Ironic, my mother got a new 2023 Grand Cherokee L with the Pentastar engine. Hers has a lovely sound with grunt when I test drove it. The mpg driving off the lot was 14.2 but driving home with her heavy foot 1 hour away, she got 25 mpg with every type of driving lol. Based on the higher torque and EGR system I’d say this Jeep is a win. Especially with its size. Felt quicker to me than her 2017 Grand Cherokee Limited which was no slouch 😅
LOL - 18 city! B.S., if you drive like a timid 90 year old, you might get 16 city, but Normal driving you can expect about 14. If you drive like me, expect about 12mpg.
Sadly, Jeep only packages it with stouter 8HP75 trans and ELSD 4x4 as mandatory equipment, pushing the price higher(although Jeep needs to humble themselves there as well).
@@youtubecarspottersguide1 yep! For the price of a Summit, you can have a nicely-equipped Series II Wagoneer. But the way they're discounting the Wagoneer right now, could even possibly get a Series I Grand Wagoneer.
I have the v6 cherokee trailhawk. It's seriously embarrassing how damn slow this car is. I would consider dangerous trying to get up to speed on the highway on ramps. I've had serious safety issues not being able to get ahead of semi's. It's a very cool and capable car but that acceleration is non existent.
I got lucky with a V8 version of a 2023 Jeep GC L with the high altitude package too. Summit reserve so it’s quite loaded. Someone customized one online and put everything possible in it and when the vehicle came to the dealer they changed their mind. So I took it 😂. Had a v6 limited version before that for 4 months then traded that in for the V8 😂. I’m happy as fuck 😂
Hello Sofyan, this is an awesome review of this Land Cherokee this car just beneficial to the family and for long trips, with seven seats can sit comfortably I like this car but Cherokee has shown a little gimmick here I haven't seen a passenger side screen maybe rolls royce would have given that function who don't know but they have been added little hard plastic 73 thousand dollars a lot amount however I liked American walnut wood design over the doors some of the functions are non-descript it's fine 10 or 11 inches display. Thanks
saw a used 2018 WK limited 100k miles doors where still solid . drove it to see how a 100k miles jeep no wind noise so rattles not sure of this new design ?
Still a great vehicle, especially in terms of what it offers as class-exclusives(@Sofyan, the Summit Reserve in fact has standard rear ventilated seats, as well as front massage). The interior of the Summit is near the top of the class, only let down by the black piano plastic overuse. Newsflash: Skip the 2023 and await the 2024 in a few months as the Hurricane will be available, as well as expanded 4xe availability. That said, when Sofyan was merging on to the highway, the acceleration of the Pentastar was appropriate for something of its size and power level. Also, the mentioning of the Grand Highlander and price was odd, considering loaded versions of both are over $60K+, granted the GH will have more power...for now. As far as being overpriced, it still offers class-exclusive features and lets face it, Jeep GCs have never been cheap on the high end.
The engine lineup in the GC is honestly really pathetic. $4k for the old Hemi is crazy too. Hopefully they bring the straight 6 hurricane engine to this model sooner than later.
As someone who keeps cars a long time, and a previous Jeep/Chrysler product owner, never again no matter the price, features, how nice they look, how powerful they are (or maybe aren't). If I ever get to buying cars every 3-4 years, I might think about it......maybe. Lease?
Agree - Leased my oldest son a new Jeep Compass two years ago as a graduation gift to replace his beater that we bought him when he got his license and it needed more warranty repairs than any car my wife and I have ever owned since we got married in 2001 - Never left him stranded or anything but lots of little electrical glitches and build quality nonsense. Interestingly we bought our daughter a used low mileage 2013 Chrysler 200 last year as a first car before all the issues with the Jeep and the 200 has been problem-free, go figure.
Underpowered. At that price point, it needs at least the 5.7 HEMI. Jar do believe it only has reflector LED, and not projector. I rented one over the weekend, although comfortable, it needs that v8 and projector led.
This is one of the best luxury SUVs. The interior is beautiful in the summit reserve and it looks good. And it drives well as well. Hyundai Kia are close but this absolutely blows the Toyota and Lexus out of the water Jeep really needs to put the 4xe into the L models. Btw cooled rear seats are included in the summit reserve model
I just bought new Grand Cherokee Summit. Im 90% haapy but only 23/24 models doen't have hold breake button. Me and dealer serach is two days. He can't even order new one with button on it... The 2022 summit which I test drive has one... WTF JEEP
add the new inline I-6 . add solid rear axle , trail rated- trail hawk , no 3rd row ,could be a good car camper overlander this is to much mall , mom car school pickup wagon
I have a 2023 Tuscon SEL AWD with the convenience package. Thats also slow but acceptable, i didn't buy it for 0-60, it gets up to highway speeds like 60-70 and once it's there it cruises at 70-75 and extremely smooth when i drive to WV also gets 30 highway. Not an 'offroad' vehicle but great traction in snow and ice when i visit my house in WV i tried it on a few snowy and icy inclined streets and no problem. I don't believe in 8000 mile oil changes regardless of full synthetic so i do it about 4500-5000
Remember when jeep was a truely off road get dirty got a ding on the side fix it on a saturday afternoon , stellantis wants you to forget all that they see the navigator, Mercedes, range rover money and try to move the jeep up scale to capture some of that money... only problem Jeep isnt ready for prime time
@themoviebay They start from 39k for the base model.. throw in a trade in and a small down-payment and you have a payment that most people could afford.
As much as I love the 3.6 Pentastar, they seriously need to drop it out of this. It’s way to underpowered and lacks the low end torque (like the 5.7) for this vehicle. A great, reliable engine but definitely isn’t meant for something this big. Need to just make the 5.7 the standard engine options even if it means up charging a bit.
Well, I do agree that it’s underpowered, but mostly because it’s so heavy that it’s about 500lbs heavier than other competitors, NA V6 is fine, the weight is ridiculously heavy. Despite the NA V6 being underpowered, I am sure most people still buy the smaller engine.
@@blackwhirlwind1245 Definitely true, just wish they would either drop the 3.6 out of this or either that tune it for more power as it wouldn’t hurt it at all. Just to heavy for that engine.
@@kellyoubrejr544 the smaller engine should still stay for people who want the smaller engine, I am sure most people still buy the smaller engine, 8.5 seconds 0-60 is fine by most people
@@blackwhirlwind1245 Yeah, still loading it up with luggage and people and even towing. It’s gonna be a pain getting up to speed without having to thrash it. I understand the point you’re making though but I’m just stating what the obvious in those type of circumstances would be especially who will use it for that type of stuff with that engine. Again though, your point is correct and I totally agree.
73K😂with NA V6 powertrain? You know you can get fully loaded MDX Type S for the same price, and it comes with Turbo V6 engine that pumps out 355 HP, and it’s also lighter than this.
The MDX will drive worse. Because it’s fwd based Even though the jeeps heavier it has a RWD power bias so most of if not all the power can go to the rear at all times. Acura can only send 70% to the rear under limited circumstances
@@blackwhirlwind1245 ride quality the Jeep is comparable since it also has an air suspension. And just like the MDX the Jeep has a double wishbone front suspension
What about the Hemi for the L??? Idk if it’s possible to review the one with the V8 down the line I know it’s no longer offered on the regular wheelbase
@@DeadAir21 I know it’s kinda rare since it won’t be available past 2024 but if they want a V8 when the dodge muscle cars discontinue they gotta look at the used car mkt
@@AK-rx6hv it's the options that crank the price that high. The passenger screen, the tech package, etc... base level summits are a good price for a good value.
same with the rear d pillar doesn't look that great now if this had solid rear axle, trail rated -trail hawk wagon, get rid of the 3rd row could be a good adventure rig .. more than to the polo fields wagon
The engine is the whack and the weak link. Add more weight add more torque duh…should have at least 400 ft lbs and why I would avoid these . 4xe might be better with all discounts and rebates with turbo!
The problem with domestic vehicles and especially European vehicles is they drive nice the first 3-5 years. They drive like crap after that… With the exception of some domestic trucks. But Chrysler as a whole is crap
Reliability isn’t a concern when it’s leased or not kept for more than 5 years Besides reliability means you have to give up too much on livability of the vehicle. You give up tech, luxury, materials, comfort, driving dynamics, wow factor and just ease of use
@@naveenthemachine not necessarily. You can get all that plus reliability with a highlander, pilot, ascent, etc. if looks is all that matters, that’s one thing. But if you want a little bit of everything plus reliability, stay away from domestics/Europeans
“Save Jeep the embarrassment” ???? Since when is a vehicle saved from their true 0-60. That’s a first. That is real world driving. Everyone should know true 0-60 in places that are NOT at sea level. Denver is a perfect place to do REAL world testing.
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It's still a Jeep. No one that's going to drive a luxury SUV is going to consider a Jeep a luxury SUV if they look at the luxury SUVs on the market myself. I am a Audi buyer. I wouldn't go from an Audi Q7 to a Jeep Grand Cherokee l and those Grand Cherokee L's are expensive. So if you compare dollars to dollars you get a lot more in your other brands
You are completely wrong here, I have a 2020 volvo t6 inscription right now, looking to change, would never want to be seen in a q7, those things are hideous, would rather buy this.
You can say what you like about the Audi automobile in general, but until you own Audis and drive them for several years, you will change your opinion. We've started on an Audis when they were the Audi 100s. We went from 100 to a six to an A8 and then to a Q7. As far as I'm concerned, I know everybody's not going to like them but you ain't going to tell me the quality is not there and they're no higher maintenance than any other automobile out there. You have to stay on top of the maintenance but you cannot be Audi for the Quattro system over any other formatic we've had. Mercedes-Benz and all the luxury cars. This is my opinion and my opinion only because I've have driven them. We've owned BMWs also, but compare and try to convince me that a Jeep is a luxury SUV is okay. I'll leave it at that
@@greggjohnston4022 you said people who buy luxury cars, everyone has a different definition, like I said I just can't stand the looks of q7, don't care about AWD system as much as you, even the x7 is hideous now. So I may go for a gls, the new tx, aviator or grand Cherokee.
v6 tow axle ratio ? last time shopped GC wk ,had 3:06 it was a dog, Never trust tow ratings your towing may be less ,where are you towing ? how many passengers ? trim level ? payload of the model base models have more payload, than top top luxury models go v8 in this size
These are nice except for the hard plastic on the bottom half of dashboard that extends down to the sides of the center console. If this could be wrapped in vinyl/ leather…. It would be on BMWs level
The Summit Reserve has fully leather-wrapped door cards and extended leather on lower parts of the dash, console, uppers, and dash. They really make a splash with that trim. The interior of that trim does feel the part of its price.
I looked into buying one of those until I saw the sticker. In a half way decent spec they want over 60k for this thing. Bought an X5 instead. They are nuts. It`s a Jeep, not a luxury brand. What a turd of a car.
The x5 is obviously better than Jeep. You’d expect that. But the fact that we can mention a Jeep and a bmw in the same sentence really tells you how far jeep has really come
If that 8 speed from ZF is the same the the 2016 model has, it is not one of the best in the industry. It sucks. After 30k miles it start downshifting very roughly. The same thing happens with the 9 speed ZF that Honda uses in the 2016-2022 Pilot.
The 9 speed is not the same transmission as the 8 speed. They’re designed completely differently. The 9 speed uses dog clutches while the 8 speed doesn’t
Americans NEVER say "The States" - we say "the country", "the U.S.", or "America" - you sound like a Euro but you have no accent and I assume you're an American. If you are, then you should use our common terms instead of a Euro term.
@@marquisstrongchild7535 Hmm. Strange little response. The question is not what Americans can say but what Americans should say. Assuming of course you believe in American culture and traditions. Would you be OK if car reviewers called the trunk the “boot” or the hood the “bonnet”? How about eating a bag of “crisps” or a chocolate chip “biscuit”? That would be weird, wouldn’t you say? I’m not looking to throw anyone in jail, I simply think that Americans should speak like Americans. That’s how we maintain our common culture. Do you agree even a little bit?
I was born in the States, and I say the States when referring to the States. Just want you to know that you're categorically wrong and that your statement is riduculous.
Spot on. A loaded Lincoln Aviator is also around $73,000 and has a 400hp engine. I had the Lincoln, which had more than its share of problems, and just traded it for a Hyundai Palisade Calligraphy, which cost $53,000. I also owned 3 different Grand Cherokee Summits with the Pentastar. I really liked them, but they have gotten too pricey. The Palisade is a great car. Until Jeep gets real on price, these vehicles will continue to live on dealer lots, not driveways.
No offense...but $53k for a Hyundai...no way.
@@dorado0359
So what would you get for that price?
The JGCs are selling like hotcakes.
@@chiemekaa 4RUNNER
I would rather spend 53k on a Hyundai or jeep than 53k on an uncompetitive Lexus or Toyota
I’ve watched hundreds of these TH-cam vids on the Jeep GC L. Yours is the best I’ve encountered after purchasing a USED, 4,900 mile (let someone else take that $10-15k depreciation hit on this overpriced model) loaded 2023 Jeep GC L Summit Reserve with the 5.7L V8. We drove the V6 and it is underwhelming to say the least. In fact we would not own this vehicle with that Pentastar engine. That being said our fam loves this vehicle over our prior BMW X7 and Merc GL550. Your attention to detail and facts (other than the mistake about 2nd row ventilated seats which we have in the Summot Reserve) are to be commended. Plus your comments about the lagging Uconnect system is spot on. It’s a great system other than that. C’mon Jeep. Fix this. Uconnect will even get quirky at times confusing itself with another person’s profile or just switching screens randomly. Ours goes in for the backup camera recall (with which we’ve had no issues) on September 6. Hopefully that software update will fix some of the minor infotainment annoyances. You are one of the only testers to mention the Uconnect issue. We traded in our 2021 BMWX7 M50i and this vehicle is so much more user friendly and believe it or not mechanically reliable over the Hot Turbo V8 from BMW. The three things we primarily miss are soft close doors (which you mentioned), heated and cooled cup holders, and the loss in HP (357) & torque (390) in the hemi versus the 523HP/553ftlbs V8 in the M50i. The other plusses though such as Night Vision to spot deer, better massaging seats, easier 2nd and 3rd row entry, spare tire, etc. make this vehicle a much better option for us. We also love the McIntosh system being a home audiophile with a 7.2.6 McIntosh system in our family room. Thank you again for your honest and in-depth analysis.
I’ve seen these locally for about $75k - $85k. These cars should be about $55k at this trim level. Even then, over $50k for a jeep is a trail too far for me…
Yes they do offers cool seats Mr. Redline
Cooled rear seats are available in the Summit Reserve.
As a ram owner I agree the Uconnect 5 is terrible with laggy and struggles with CarPlay. Sometimes it gets stuck think CarPlay is connected and it isn’t so I have to physically shutdown the system by holding the power button.
Test drove the Grand Cherokee and the Genesis GV80 back to back - same price - and my wife and I truly liked the Genesis much, much more.
Sofyan, this is in a class all its own. You being a car enthusiast should know the quirk of this car it's always straddled the line the L complicates things a bit.. The GC on paper may compete in both the mainstream and luxury segments which is funny because their pricing start where this tops out (lower tier no option sensatec uplulstry no off road ability at all and a little more power for their heavy SUV. Or you get a tricked out Grand Highlander and with both options the Jeep, Pentastar or not would be the one leaving them behind while they stall thinking their "SUVs" are capable of water fording or anything this can. Or do anything a minivan can't which begs the question.. Get a mini van!!!
You can get the cool seats in the back with the summit reserve only
Yep, and front seat massage.
My favorite Jeep SUV I wanted to buy one.
When I look for car/truck reviews, I watch from at least 3-4 reviewers. Soyfan and Scotty Kilmer are always in the list.
Really needs that 3.0 Turbo 6
Yes! The hurricane 6 would be a dream, if offered in the grand Cherokee…
@@Jvst_Manni3 it’ll happen at some point
2024. Likely reveal at the NAIAS in September, along with Ram.
No
@@Jvst_Manni3would be a dream
If they are made reliable lol
Ironic, my mother got a new 2023 Grand Cherokee L with the Pentastar engine. Hers has a lovely sound with grunt when I test drove it. The mpg driving off the lot was 14.2 but driving home with her heavy foot 1 hour away, she got 25 mpg with every type of driving lol. Based on the higher torque and EGR system I’d say this Jeep is a win. Especially with its size. Felt quicker to me than her 2017 Grand Cherokee Limited which was no slouch 😅
LOL - 18 city! B.S., if you drive like a timid 90 year old, you might get 16 city, but Normal driving you can expect about 14. If you drive like me, expect about 12mpg.
ADD the 4 kids and no room for gear one has to watch payload low trim spec = more payload , my v8 2 .hours of driving between top off the tank
Exactly it's always bs
It does have cool seats but on the reserved model.
Nice video keep up the good work Redline
The liverwurst engine/transmission combo of all vehicles.
The regular JGC has 4xe. Jeep and Dodge need to price their stuff more realistically.
Summit needs to come standard with the V8. This car is way too nice and way too heavy for this anemic, unrefined V6.
Sadly, Jeep only packages it with stouter 8HP75 trans and ELSD 4x4 as mandatory equipment, pushing the price higher(although Jeep needs to humble themselves there as well).
@@hellkitty1014 price one should just buy a wagoneer
@@youtubecarspottersguide1 yep! For the price of a Summit, you can have a nicely-equipped Series II Wagoneer. But the way they're discounting the Wagoneer right now, could even possibly get a Series I Grand Wagoneer.
I heard there is a option
I got a new 24 L summit for $56k. It was sticker at $66k and $10k off
Yeah Don't know if that's for me. I'm looking around, have late model Grand cherokee & the regular V6 is a little slow.
This comes with v8 if the engine is ur issue and it’s powerful
I have the v6 cherokee trailhawk. It's seriously embarrassing how damn slow this car is. I would consider dangerous trying to get up to speed on the highway on ramps. I've had serious safety issues not being able to get ahead of semi's. It's a very cool and capable car but that acceleration is non existent.
I’ve been holding out on this vehicle because I want them to put the hurricane engine in it! 😩
Sofyan, if you’ve not been to a concert there at Red Rocks… change that. I’m 15 minutes from there.
Very Nice Bro! Get Good People!
I got lucky with a V8 version of a 2023 Jeep GC L with the high altitude package too. Summit reserve so it’s quite loaded. Someone customized one online and put everything possible in it and when the vehicle came to the dealer they changed their mind. So I took it 😂. Had a v6 limited version before that for 4 months then traded that in for the V8 😂. I’m happy as fuck 😂
Super nice very pricey!
did you say Jeep's first 3rd row? What was Jeep Commander?
Hello Sofyan, this is an awesome review of this Land Cherokee this car just beneficial to the family and for long trips, with seven seats can sit comfortably I like this car but Cherokee has shown a little gimmick here I haven't seen a passenger side screen maybe rolls royce would have given that function who don't know but they have been added little hard plastic 73 thousand dollars a lot amount however I liked American walnut wood design over the doors some of the functions are non-descript it's fine 10 or 11 inches display. Thanks
I'd lease this car only. Initial quality looks solid.
saw a used 2018 WK limited 100k miles doors where still solid . drove it to see how a 100k miles jeep no wind noise so rattles not sure of this new design ?
Tx350 in market now ,, more spacious
Still a great vehicle, especially in terms of what it offers as class-exclusives(@Sofyan, the Summit Reserve in fact has standard rear ventilated seats, as well as front massage). The interior of the Summit is near the top of the class, only let down by the black piano plastic overuse.
Newsflash: Skip the 2023 and await the 2024 in a few months as the Hurricane will be available, as well as expanded 4xe availability. That said, when Sofyan was merging on to the highway, the acceleration of the Pentastar was appropriate for something of its size and power level.
Also, the mentioning of the Grand Highlander and price was odd, considering loaded versions of both are over $60K+, granted the GH will have more power...for now. As far as being overpriced, it still offers class-exclusive features and lets face it, Jeep GCs have never been cheap on the high end.
Tbh Pilot feels like it has way more space than grand cherokee l
The engine lineup in the GC is honestly really pathetic. $4k for the old Hemi is crazy too. Hopefully they bring the straight 6 hurricane engine to this model sooner than later.
As someone who keeps cars a long time, and a previous Jeep/Chrysler product owner, never again no matter the price, features, how nice they look, how powerful they are (or maybe aren't). If I ever get to buying cars every 3-4 years, I might think about it......maybe. Lease?
Agree - Leased my oldest son a new Jeep Compass two years ago as a graduation gift to replace his beater that we bought him when he got his license and it needed more warranty repairs than any car my wife and I have ever owned since we got married in 2001 - Never left him stranded or anything but lots of little electrical glitches and build quality nonsense. Interestingly we bought our daughter a used low mileage 2013 Chrysler 200 last year as a first car before all the issues with the Jeep and the 200 has been problem-free, go figure.
Did you have a recent model? I heard quality improved significantly
@@davidrx795if your looking at a car in this price range, no Toyota pls
Underpowered. At that price point, it needs at least the 5.7 HEMI. Jar do believe it only has reflector LED, and not projector. I rented one over the weekend, although comfortable, it needs that v8 and projector led.
This is one of the best luxury SUVs. The interior is beautiful in the summit reserve and it looks good. And it drives well as well.
Hyundai Kia are close but this absolutely blows the Toyota and Lexus out of the water
Jeep really needs to put the 4xe into the L models. Btw cooled rear seats are included in the summit reserve model
I just bought new Grand Cherokee Summit.
Im 90% haapy but only 23/24 models doen't have hold breake button.
Me and dealer serach is two days. He can't even order new one with button on it...
The 2022 summit which I test drive has one... WTF JEEP
add the new inline I-6 . add solid rear axle , trail rated- trail hawk , no 3rd row ,could be a good car camper overlander this is to much mall , mom car school pickup wagon
I have a 2023 Tuscon SEL AWD with the convenience package. Thats also slow but acceptable, i didn't buy it for 0-60, it gets up to highway speeds like 60-70 and once it's there it cruises at 70-75 and extremely smooth when i drive to WV also gets 30 highway.
Not an 'offroad' vehicle but great traction in snow and ice when i visit my house in WV i tried it on a few snowy and icy inclined streets and no problem.
I don't believe in 8000 mile oil changes regardless of full synthetic so i do it about 4500-5000
I looked at one at a dealership. The salesman broke the seat trying to fold it down. I said bye bye.
Wow, that tells you something 😂
Need a review on the new Subaru Ascent! Not too many videos available.
Remember when jeep was a truely off road get dirty got a ding on the side fix it on a saturday afternoon , stellantis wants you to forget all that they see the navigator, Mercedes, range rover money and try to move the jeep up scale to capture some of that money... only problem Jeep isnt ready for prime time
true id like to see more off road trail rated trail hawk soild rear axle , no 3rd row for us car campers overlanders
True, they try to reposition JEEP as luxury brand. The only problem is if average Americans and luxury buyers willing to accept that…….
@@eggheadegghead true just the quality of keep has gone down…now there trying to gussy it up and throw it up scale
@youtubecarspottersguide1 they have it without a 3rd row
@@GaryGraf not the long wb L model
The Grand Cherokee L Summit Reserve has Ventilated Rear Seats.
Sooo are Jeeps really Jeeps now or just another Mercedes 😂😂
These are expensive af
Yes they are and there is a shitload of them on the road.
@@themoviebayyes the less expensive one
@themoviebay They start from 39k for the base model.. throw in a trade in and a small down-payment and you have a payment that most people could afford.
@@CalmDownShh and also throw in the fact that Chrysler capital damn near finances to anyone with stable income
But they’re so worth it
As much as I love the 3.6 Pentastar, they seriously need to drop it out of this. It’s way to underpowered and lacks the low end torque (like the 5.7) for this vehicle. A great, reliable engine but definitely isn’t meant for something this big. Need to just make the 5.7 the standard engine options even if it means up charging a bit.
Well, I do agree that it’s underpowered, but mostly because it’s so heavy that it’s about 500lbs heavier than other competitors, NA V6 is fine, the weight is ridiculously heavy. Despite the NA V6 being underpowered, I am sure most people still buy the smaller engine.
@@blackwhirlwind1245 Definitely true, just wish they would either drop the 3.6 out of this or either that tune it for more power as it wouldn’t hurt it at all. Just to heavy for that engine.
@@kellyoubrejr544 the smaller engine should still stay for people who want the smaller engine, I am sure most people still buy the smaller engine, 8.5 seconds 0-60 is fine by most people
@@blackwhirlwind1245 Yeah, still loading it up with luggage and people and even towing. It’s gonna be a pain getting up to speed without having to thrash it. I understand the point you’re making though but I’m just stating what the obvious in those type of circumstances would be especially who will use it for that type of stuff with that engine. Again though, your point is correct and I totally agree.
Is not reliable lol
just wait a year or two and it will cost half the price. 70 to 80k is a ridiculous price for a grand Cherokee.
I bought a 2023 summit reserve model a couple months ago MSRP 83k - on sale for 67k. It's just about finding the right time to buy.
73K😂with NA V6 powertrain? You know you can get fully loaded MDX Type S for the same price, and it comes with Turbo V6 engine that pumps out 355 HP, and it’s also lighter than this.
Acura’s aren’t cheap just like this isn’t nor does Acura ever have any incentives on their vehicles to make them cheaper
The MDX will drive worse. Because it’s fwd based
Even though the jeeps heavier it has a RWD power bias so most of if not all the power can go to the rear at all times. Acura can only send 70% to the rear under limited circumstances
@@naveenthemachine slightly better at that, but everything else? No
@@blackwhirlwind1245 ride quality the Jeep is comparable since it also has an air suspension. And just like the MDX the Jeep has a double wishbone front suspension
@@naveenthemachine yeah, most things are on par with Type S, but NA V6 for 73K is just too expensive.
4:54 why does the gas cap door paint not match the fender paint 🤦♂️
Just the shadow
So no more v8s?
Nope
yes. they have a v8 option - just not a HEMI. not sure why they're not sending them to people to review.
@@travismurray7312 no more v8s for 24 tho and the v8 in the 23 or older is a 5.7 hemi
This is no Jeep if it doesn't have a limited slip rear... They've been building them this way for over a year.
All for 70k 😂
Cause u can't it all with you and should enjoy life!!
I thought for sure this got the Hurricane motor. 😮
yes v6 is to me is underpowered id li like to drive the new I-6 engine
ja the most beautiful looking SUV: if only you could get it the interior of the Navigator and a BMW-engine...
Actually, Jeep does offer vented seats in the second row but only on the top end summit reserve trim.
Since when a Jeep Cherokee costs so much?
It's a summit
Not enough cocaine in the world to make a $100k jeep sound like a good deal.
It looks good and that's about it. Poorly made, bad reliability, and high markup by dealers.
What about the Hemi for the L??? Idk if it’s possible to review the one with the V8 down the line I know it’s no longer offered on the regular wheelbase
I highly doubt Jeep has a HEMI model as a test vehicle right now because it probably won’t be around in 2024.
@@DeadAir21 I know it’s kinda rare since it won’t be available past 2024 but if they want a V8 when the dodge muscle cars discontinue they gotta look at the used car mkt
Dope!
The fact the you can option up a Jeep Cherokee to $80k is absolutely ridiculous. At that point just get a luxury brand SUV.
The only luxury brand in that general stratosphere with similar capability is a Defender. Try getting similar equipment for 80k there.
Just don't get the L version. The non-L summit is about 55k
@@AK-rx6hv it's the options that crank the price that high. The passenger screen, the tech package, etc... base level summits are a good price for a good value.
@@georgesnyder5337 yep. I had a 105k 2022 RR Sport that didn't have as much in it as a summit reserve optioned to 80k.
Time go to 4xe and Hurricane-only so they can shorten that ridiculous hood length.
same with the rear d pillar doesn't look that great now if this had solid rear axle, trail rated -trail hawk wagon, get rid of the 3rd row could be a good adventure rig .. more than to the polo fields wagon
The hurricane is longer than even the 5.7 hemi do you not know who engines look?
Why are you comparing this to a luxury vehicle it’s a premium your to judgement sofyan
Just 9ver priced and doesn't compete with the grand highlander
No because it’s better than the grand Highlander in every way. Looks, interior materials, tech, luxury, driving dynamics etc
Wayyyyyy too much money 💰 That's a rip off and a half !!!!
Will you be reviewing the Dark Horse eventually?
Seeing these new Cherokees and Grand Cherokees all over the road.
The engine is the whack and the weak link. Add more weight add more torque duh…should have at least 400 ft lbs and why I would avoid these . 4xe might be better with all discounts and rebates with turbo!
Overprice, slow, and loud engine noise.
Overpriced slow and loud doesn’t describe the grand Cherokee. I’ve seen much worse
9 seconds to 60 for that price is a joke
the v8 gets to 60 in about 6 seconds.
The problem with domestic vehicles and especially European vehicles is they drive nice the first 3-5 years. They drive like crap after that… With the exception of some domestic trucks. But Chrysler as a whole is crap
Reliability isn’t a concern when it’s leased or not kept for more than 5 years
Besides reliability means you have to give up too much on livability of the vehicle. You give up tech, luxury, materials, comfort, driving dynamics, wow factor and just ease of use
@@naveenthemachine not necessarily. You can get all that plus reliability with a highlander, pilot, ascent, etc. if looks is all that matters, that’s one thing. But if you want a little bit of everything plus reliability, stay away from domestics/Europeans
“Save Jeep the embarrassment” ???? Since when is a vehicle saved from their true 0-60. That’s a first. That is real world driving. Everyone should know true 0-60 in places that are NOT at sea level. Denver is a perfect place to do REAL world testing.
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Overpriced
first
It's still a Jeep. No one that's going to drive a luxury SUV is going to consider a Jeep a luxury SUV if they look at the luxury SUVs on the market myself. I am a Audi buyer. I wouldn't go from an Audi Q7 to a Jeep Grand Cherokee l and those Grand Cherokee L's are expensive. So if you compare dollars to dollars you get a lot more in your other brands
You are completely wrong here, I have a 2020 volvo t6 inscription right now, looking to change, would never want to be seen in a q7, those things are hideous, would rather buy this.
Wrong was looking at the Q7 last year and GCL offered more for the price and hasn’t had any issues approaching a year on the 18th!
You can say what you like about the Audi automobile in general, but until you own Audis and drive them for several years, you will change your opinion. We've started on an Audis when they were the Audi 100s. We went from 100 to a six to an A8 and then to a Q7. As far as I'm concerned, I know everybody's not going to like them but you ain't going to tell me the quality is not there and they're no higher maintenance than any other automobile out there. You have to stay on top of the maintenance but you cannot be Audi for the Quattro system over any other formatic we've had. Mercedes-Benz and all the luxury cars. This is my opinion and my opinion only because I've have driven them. We've owned BMWs also, but compare and try to convince me that a Jeep is a luxury SUV is okay. I'll leave it at that
@@greggjohnston4022 you said people who buy luxury cars, everyone has a different definition, like I said I just can't stand the looks of q7, don't care about AWD system as much as you, even the x7 is hideous now. So I may go for a gls, the new tx, aviator or grand Cherokee.
You are incorrect. Name another luxury SUV with off-road capability where you get "more for your money". I'll wait.
Lol, imagine towing 6,000 lbs with this. Didn't know they were still pushing the pentastar in these 😂
Ikr?!
v6 tow axle ratio ? last time shopped GC wk ,had 3:06 it was a dog, Never trust tow ratings your towing may be less ,where are you towing ? how many passengers ? trim level ? payload of the model base models have more payload, than top top luxury models go v8 in this size
There are better cars at this price range. What a junk
No there are worse cars than this. Hint. All of them come from Toyota and Lexus 😂
These are nice except for the hard plastic on the bottom half of dashboard that extends down to the sides of the center console. If this could be wrapped in vinyl/ leather…. It would be on BMWs level
The Summit Reserve has fully leather-wrapped door cards and extended leather on lower parts of the dash, console, uppers, and dash. They really make a splash with that trim. The interior of that trim does feel the part of its price.
Way to expensive! Pass!
First
My scion faster than this it deos 7.7 0-60 and it’s a 2.0 4 cylinder fwd top speed 127
But your Scion’s a Toyota that’s boring to drive.
@@naveenthemachine boring and faster what a win win situation at least I’m not broke down with 400,000 miles and still trucking
Compared to a raggedy broke down ass mopar
I looked into buying one of those until I saw the sticker. In a half way decent spec they want over 60k for this thing. Bought an X5 instead. They are nuts. It`s a Jeep, not a luxury brand. What a turd of a car.
The x5 is obviously better than Jeep. You’d expect that. But the fact that we can mention a Jeep and a bmw in the same sentence really tells you how far jeep has really come
This vehicle is ruined by the weak unpowered V6!!
It’s not ruin because there’s a strong v8 powered version as well😊
It was a much more attractive vehicle a few years ago….the new design is just too pedestrian
Junk! Hopefully they’ve fixed their garbage transmissions!
Huh? The ZF 8 speed is regarded as one of the best transmissions made. I think you are confused.
@@georgesnyder5337 nope
@@beri232 you are ill informed here. It is easily corrected with about 5 minutes of research- so there is hope for you.
@@georgesnyder5337 no hope for you if you think Jeeps are awesome
@@beri232 it is not a Jeep thing. The transmission is a ZF and is used by many rwd cars (It is a BMW mainstay, for example).
If that 8 speed from ZF is the same the the 2016 model has, it is not one of the best in the industry. It sucks. After 30k miles it start downshifting very roughly. The same thing happens with the 9 speed ZF that Honda uses in the 2016-2022 Pilot.
Agree
The 9 speed is not the same transmission as the 8 speed. They’re designed completely differently. The 9 speed uses dog clutches while the 8 speed doesn’t
Americans NEVER say "The States" - we say "the country", "the U.S.", or "America" - you sound like a Euro but you have no accent and I assume you're an American. If you are, then you should use our common terms instead of a Euro term.
😅 Americans also believe in freedoms, like freedom of speech. Which means he's free to talk anyhow he likes.
@@marquisstrongchild7535
Hmm. Strange little response. The question is not what Americans can say but what Americans should say. Assuming of course you believe in American culture and traditions. Would you be OK if car reviewers called the trunk the “boot” or the hood the “bonnet”? How about eating a bag of “crisps” or a chocolate chip “biscuit”? That would be weird, wouldn’t you say? I’m not looking to throw anyone in jail, I simply think that Americans should speak like Americans. That’s how we maintain our common culture. Do you agree even a little bit?
@@markpagniano 🥱
@@marquisstrongchild7535
thanks for the thoughtful response.
I was born in the States, and I say the States when referring to the States. Just want you to know that you're categorically wrong and that your statement is riduculous.