Good morning from New Zealand just wondering would this cat slam in any sort of sea state , eg is the central part to low to the sea , some cats do suffer from this , any thoughts 💭
I'm not a sailor, but I'm a designer of small spaces, and I really appreciate the thoroughness with which you review these. I find all of the nerdy moments like standoffs, fuel breathers and sealed conduits extremely satisfying and I'm sure the designers and manufacturers appreciate you pointing these out when they have gone the extra mile. All in all, for thoroughness I give you 10 out of 10.
Simple solution for additional storage is to convert one of the guest cabins into a storage cum workshop area. If you are going into remote areas for extended periods of time a decent workshop is pretty much essential anyway so carry one less person/couple - besides - how often do you have four extra people on-board anyway. As always another excellent review of a catamaran that, in this case, I would generally not considered, thank-you for opening my eyes yet again. As always stay safe and keep having fun. P.S. those books look like an excellent read right up there with the Dashew Offshore series.
Depending on goals obliviously, but customizing the 3rd bedroom to be dedicated storage opens lots of options. I've seen it as an option on mono's (Jean and Bene) from the factory, not so much on the cats which surprises me. I've seen custom work where the bed box is cut out and shelves are put in, really improves storage. For the 1260 specifically, the cockpit and dual helm layout lacks storage under the settees that many other Cats have.
@@ZeLogicnator5k Randy and Lennie on SV Happy Together had a forward cabin on their new Leopard 50 fitted out as a dedicated work area and parts storage and it is excellent. To be honest I don't know why more blue water boat manufacturers don't have it as an option. As you and T say storage on this cat is a problem and I see this as a solution.
Hey Mike, do you know if the cockpit settee’s are empty? Would access panels help provide additional storage? It seems too easy a solution. I’ve never been on one, but without a doubt, it’s my top contender.
@@clayfarnet970 So the transom setup is Sink, Settee, and the grill station. There is one port under each area for access to gas/water lines. While you "could" use it for storage the ports are not very large so they do limit you. The cockpit settee does not have flip open hatches like the saloon settee. I would say it has significantly less storage as there is overall less cabinetry than other cats and the price point reflects that. I personally could make it work and like the minimalist style, though there is no obvious place for a tank rack. Of my issues and observations, storage was not one of them (though it has less than other 40's).
One thing folk should be aware of is *weight and stability* Some might find this an interesting read: *Stability guide for smaller vessels* www.dma.dk/Vaekst/EU/EUOestersoestrategi/PAsafe/Notifications%20PA%20Safe/Stability%20Guide%20for%20Smaller%20Vessels%20by%20Danish%20Fishermen's%20Occupational%20Health%20Services.pdf It's very dangerous to put a lot of weight in one corner of the boat, because it moves center of gravity, Cg
This boat has been on my radar a very long time. It’s all been said so I will stay brief with something I don’t think anyone has mentioned. I have looked for all the info I can find on this boat and e drives. I suggest an alternative setup for the 1260: substitute an electric drive (ie Oceanvolt) to replace one of the yanmar diesels along with a bank of lithium ion batteries. Why? Takes less room. Use it for storage (I would also use the aft cabin over the e-drive and combine extra space) Takes less diesel. Use your one e-drive for moving for boat in marina and other short jaunts. Charge your batteries with solar, the prop gen. of your e-drive and finally your Yanmar alternator. Run them both at once, should be fine as yanmar charging can offset electricity usage and charge batteries. Eliminate the generator. Yanmar is your generator. Generators are heavy, especially in a performance low weight oriented boat like a Seawind, expensive to buy and maintain. Also use your battery bank for induction cooking in galley. Eliminate your gas (except maybe for your cockpit bbq which we all love!). Food for thought.
Will_hack_for_plane_fare I also like the MAine Cats, especially the Maine Cat 41. Check out the OKellys review. Excellent Open Cockpit combined with living space. Daggerboards as well. No doubt could do EDrive on a 41 as well!
@Steven Hall what you describe is a parallel hybrid and would be somewhat unusual. Another alternative is two electric drives plus a generator; a serial hybrid. This may be a bit more common for electric boats with a backup generator. (In big ships this is often called Integrated Electric Propulsion.) Since as you note generators aren't really great, a cool solution for a better generator is to connect a standard marine engine to an electric motor and use the motor as a generator only, to charge the propulsion battery bank or power the electric drive motors or house loads. Maintenance of the generator then becomes like any other marine engine (no special generator parts), and it needn't be a very powerful engine.
On the storage front, I view the 1260 as the ideal boat for couples cruising where want to be able to have another couple/ kids along occasionally. As such I think that 4 bedrooms and probably even three dedicated staterooms is unnecessary. What about converting the starboard aft bedroom into storage? Could set up a proper maintenance/tool storage area, pantry, probably install a deep freezer, etc. You would still have two proper staterooms assuming went for the master cabin in port hull + salon convertible bed for when have a larger group. If planning to do extended cruising and you want 4 bedrooms, I think you need a 45-50' boat.
This boat is a surprise when you walk in and poke around, it’s a very practical boat because it’s born from Australian summertime sailing in Sydney harbour with friends, which means space to lounge around and swim from the boat and drink beer wearing swimsuits . It’s a spacious thing and oozes practicality . The galley down is so darn big and has so much counter space and ventilation that is seems obvious. It’s a home away from home boat which brings the outside in . And those front windows make the boat almost like an open tent it lets air in and heat out. There are so many simple solutions built into this boat love it.
There it is, winner. Nothing wrong with galley down and the livability in the 1260 is incredibly similar to the 1600 (which is top of my list). Selfishly, I hope you do end up with the 1260 so I can witness the build up, commissioning and the 12 months of refinement that follow and the route taken from Vietnam (wish list request please head into Thai gulf and spend time around Koh Chang and other similar islands). Thank you both for another great review.
I've been waiting on this one. I have a rather large bias when it comes to this boat. My wife and I have been looking shopping online and boat shows for almost 5 years now. We decided on this boat prior to Annapolis. This boat has met and tick so many boxes for us. The safety, the ability for a couple to sail this boat together. As far as storage for us it should not be that big of an issue, personally I will be turning the aft guest cabin into my garage. The deposit has been made and the build slot reserved now we just wait as the excitement builds. Thank you for the review and confirming a lot of what I had already thought of this boat.
SV Blue Agave enjoy your soon to be beautiful new boat! I’m exceedingly jealous as we do not have the budget for new and there are not many 1260s - if any at the moment - on the used market so instead I stalk the used 1160 listings waiting for the day we have enough saved up to go.
I know this is an old video But I have had a Seawind for two months And it’s a terrific boat Very useable and fast and easy to sail This boat is a beauty The layout is easy to live with and it’s a practical boat very stiff construction in big seas it’s easy to operate and sail and you feel safe There’s no need to go forward or leave the cockpit when sailing or anchoring all anchoring is through a chain counter at the helm We really love it and we are so glad we didn’t buy the lagoon we wanted to buy originally now we’ve had the seawind we can see how that would have been a terrible mistake .
@@markybolton we had a Seawind 1160 and lived aboard for three year s they are bullet proof hulls and rig highly recommend this model , only difficult was with all catamarans is that they do pitch slightly more than a mono and can hobby horse like any cat hull but Only 10percent of the day , then things come good on change of wind and tide , they’re Solid and don’t creak or make noises and they have a wave breaker between the hulls which work perfectly. Best liveaboard cat .
Ahoy. Thanks for the tour. I enjoy to see you videos really straight forward. To go around the Seawind is in my opinion the best choice. Price, quality, performance and even space. There is enough space. You are only 2 and there are 3 cabins. Anyway keep going on with your production and stay save.
I am in LOVE!!! THANK YOU!! I’ve been long anticipating your review of the 1260 and it did not disappoint! After my husband and I sat down for this video, it’s practically solidified our decision on the 1260. The only thing left is our test sail which we will be scheduling this spring! * I do secretly hope that you decide on a 1260 as well so we can continue to live our 1260 dreams vicariously through you until our purchase! ;) * Thank you both for continuing to produce such quality reviews. Your feedback will undoubtably be an important part of the decision making process for so many sailers and we can’t thank you enough!
The 1260 is our No.1 & has been for the last 6 months. Thanks so much for the review, you just secured another sale for Seawind! 3 more years of working life & she’s ours! Can’t wait.
My fav so far! We have just started the cruising life in Australia, and have a Peter Snell Easy catamaran. Which has many similarities to this sea wind. If we could afford a new boat we would choose this. It’s perfect. ..and I ha ve become a galley down convert. I love my spacious functional kitchen! We use the spare berth for storage and have more than we need.
As a person that sailed solo (32' Endeavour) for years, this is a boat that I would feel comfortable circumnavigating solo, and would be able to buy this new, customized the way I want it. Looking forward to your sailing video on this and what you feel about having to solo this boat. Solo, the amount of space needed would not be the same as a couple. The performance for me is a big safety feature. Being to get out of the way of weather at 12 kn vs plodding along at 5-7 kn in a mono-hull is huge.
We fell in love with this boat in Annapolis ( met you on her) we have been waiting impatiently for your review! We are also going to charter her in March to experience her on the water. It looks like this may be our next boat!
How many people saw their Tweet and thought "Holy cow! They are giving away a catamaran!" I really hope you guys don't stop doing boat reviews after you find your perfect catamaran. You do them so well. I'm not in the market to buy a boat but I always enjoy watching your reviews.
Thanks for a sailor’s perspective on the Seawind 1260. It seems like a really sailable catamaran at a price that encourages me to go sooner rather than later. A good Aussie boat!
I looked over and sailed a 1260 at Annapolis last fall and really fell in love with the boat. I'm really glad to see you guys give it such high marks. That means a lot knowing it wasn't a confirmation bias on my part.
Brilliant presentation. I love the 1260. It’s my favourite Catarmaran. Seawind makes the best boats & have so much experience. It ticks all my boxes. It has a beautiful practical design. So well thought out. It’s built for safety & comfortable sailing plus it’s fast. Simplicity always works. Great review from you both 🏄♀️🐬
This cat has pulled out all the stops & has surpassed all my expectations of a sailboat. I love the roll down windows and the helmsman / woman can have their drinks passed directly to them from the galley. The double helm with, removable glass door with hard shaded top & wide access outside along the cabin are another fabulous feature.. This Seawind 1260 is at the top of my list for catamaran.
Great review, you nailed most of the boat spot on. We are a little based of course living on one for 12 months now, but we have had 4 adults living full time, sailing from Australia out to the Pacific and found space not to be any great issue. That said, one thing you do not cover is the pro and cons of dagger boards and mini keels. After cruising for 12 months in and out of sand bars, reefs etc, I am an enthusiast for mini keels. When you bump the bottom, you are not going to rip out a sail drive or bust up a rudder. They are all nicely protected out back. And yes we all touch bottom at some time, or your not exploring exotic places.
We walked on the 1160 at the Sydney boat show a few years back and that was the turning point for me on this crazy sailing dream because I’d never been on a proper sailboat to realise that it didn’t have to be a vacation, it could be a lifestyle. Back then I knew approximately zero about sailing but the Seawind dealer still took the time to explain everything to us and treated us like serious buyers (despite the fact that we were dressed substantially less rich than most of the other boat show attendees and did not have the money to buy then). It is likely because of that care (and the fact that even as a non-sailor I still found myself saying “that’s clever” and “that makes so much sense”) that Seawind will be the brand of the boat we purchase in two years once we’ve saved enough. Two years and a lot of learning later and I still agree with newbie me - Seawind is a brand I trust to make a boat that will take us safely around the world. Also shout out to the Seawind dealers who are great people who love their boats and care about their customers - seriously no other brand really gave us the time of day in our middle class attire. All that being said I’d love to see how you guys manage the slightly less storage in the Pacific if you go for this boat - it does seem manageable from people’s comment suggestions but without actually trying it you’ve got no way of knowing I guess.
The overriding reason for this boat: It is made for a couple/solo sailor. That means it isn't made to impress the neighbours. The only reason to not buy this one is if you lack the space to store stuff.
So, if as Nick says you want to spend 3-4 months off grid etc, then that will predominantly be just a couple (possibly with some friends as fly-ins, etc), so convert the 3rd cabin into a storage/utility area, leave an option for a hanging bunk if necessary for flexibilty. That would alleviate the clutter/supplies/storage with good design racking and still give you comfortable 4/5 berths when needed. You have to compromise somewhere and for your specific plans this looks like an all-round winner with some little mods.
@@crgmrgn You have a great idea. My only concern would be that the boat is so light you might spoil the balance loading the guest bow down with all the stores and other stuff. Cats can be weight sensitive and while I agree with the idea it might be limited as to how much you could pack into the forward guest stateroom. If a cat is going to be heavy you want it in the aft not the bows. But maybe I am totally wrong on that.
Who doesn't love Lin & Larry? Their books were a massive inspiration for me to learn to sail. Also, that was the best argument I've heard to have a galley down. I've always preferred the idea of galley up, but you made some really excellent points, and as I'm also looking for a 40-ish foot cat, it makes a lot of sense to have it down. Thank you. Loving this series!
ok. I've watched this episode a few times and I have to say one thing... Nick's restraint from talking for almost 5 minutes (17:34) is MOST IMPRESSIVE!!! You should be crowned "Male Partner of the Year". That is incredible for someone that loves to state his opinion.
How does a 35 minute video seem so short? I love how you guys had all the counter-arguments for the negatives on the tips of your tongues. You clearly like this boat. Could easily see you two choosing this exact model for your new adventures. And why not? Having to get a bit creative with your storage seems a 'no-brainer' for all the advantages. Besides, it's not like there is any other possible way to get all the things you liked about this boat without this exact trade-off. Use that rear guest berth as temp storage and drop off the grid.
I’ve been watching your videos for several years now, and I’ve been wanting (quite badly) to leave the rat race behind, and your videos keep that dream alive. Thank you for that. I have a family of 4, so naturally having a large space/catamaran would be very nice. Everyone can have their own space, but still plenty of room to have everyone together. But as the years tick on I’ve realised that my girls are growing up and I’ll see them move off into the world on their own, thus the need for something with ridiculous amounts of room won’t be needed shortly. After watching this review, the motto slapped me in the face. And it didn’t even bother with the wet kipper. Time for a rethink. Keep it up guys.
The thing about the Seawinds I like the most is the simplicity & workmanship, hence reliability for the money.On top of that they sail well. When your living on board, you dont want to be spending all your time doing repairs or maintenance over enjoying your lucky life in the surroundings. Seawind just make a great sailing boat for a great price. No I dont work for Seawind....Thanks for the review guys & love the mantra from LP.
I agree totally. Also the fact seawind will customise the boat for you, put in extra cabinets and USB ports to charge electricals etc. I would convert the aft cabin to pantry/storage area. You still have a bed for guests to sleep over.
Love the simplicity and functionality of this design. Wonderful use of space. Can’t wait to one day be out on the water but I know the hard work will pay off one day.
I loved the 1260! I wanted to get on that boat for the last couple years and finally did at Annapolis. The galley down was hit for me but not so much for my wife (until I gave her some info on the design). Some other key points of the galley not mentioned, the motion when working in the galley is minimal due to being closer to the center of buoyancy. Most cats with galley up will feel more motion because they are standing higher than the CoB. Second is the galley is still open to the area above! You can easily hand drinks or food straight to the helm when the window is rolled down without leaving the galley. I don’t think you feel disconnected to the rest of the boat unless everyone is out on the trampoline.
Hope to welcome you to the Seawind family someday. We've had our 1160 Lite for 3 years now and love it more today than when we took delivery. The other thing that is worth mentioning is how great the factory support is after purchase.
You have to think outside the box towards storage. I would suggest that that small aft berth be converted into a garage/ pantry! It solves the problem with out destroying the integrity of the boat. As for the books, I'd love either copy since I do not own either in my library of seamanship books. Great shows and keep safe. Patrick
Most of your other boats are a dream. $1M + is no where what I can afford. This is practical. I like the layout, price, and speed. This is the most practical boat I have seen on your channel that is affordable and reasonable.
This boat has been my favourite cruising cat for a while(even if we own a L450S...). Love the twin helms, the door and the speed. Also nice to see you guys so worked up:-)
You do such a great job of explaining the trade-offs. Boats are all about compromise and trade-offs no one boat does it all. One of the hardest things is deciding what you wanted to do and what the important things are for you. Doing a great job of helping figure that all out.
I wonder how many people you have given the final push with your energy and passion, Watching you both for ages it is a way of being in your bubble for a few minutes and is very inspirational. Excellent!!
I've really being enjoying your cat reviews, thanks. I have to give you a hard time about two things. You liked the 1260 so much you forgot to properly criticize the nav. station. With the bigger living area, it would have been nice to have a bigger desk area, for navigation and a computer. Also, you never talk about interior ceiling heights. :)
In for a penny, in for a pound... you can afford this boat if you want it, a leap of faith is what your future plans require if I understand you rightly. Best wishes whatever you decide to do and look forward to watching it unfold.
Loved this boat and the one piece concept. It makes me think they will hold their value in the future. Also, on top of the sturdiness Nick pointed out, I think it will make less noise.
Your videos are detailed and really good reviews from a true sailor perspective. I learn a lot from your videos and would love to buy one of these catamarans and go exploring. At an age now, have a bit of money and comfortable, maybe too much so! Trouble is I need to work out how to get it (catamaran or monohull) out of the marina without damaging it, another boat or myself, possibly drowning in the process as I cannot swim. So at least I can continue to be a couch potato in wet and windy London and dream of a better life on the high seas.
Hi Terysa, I’ve been looking forward to this review since we talked at the Seawind Party in Annapolis. We share the same view as what you mentioned: Pro: enclosed helm position, large open saloon, super easy to sail as couple, large Bimini+Davit that can fit up to 1.2kW solar, interior access to both engines, sailing performance, indoor-outdoor space, ventilation Cons: storage, shroud obstructs the companionway, sketchy step up to main sail, lack of storage in guest cabin to put more than a carry-on, lack of storage in main cabin closet, lack of storage in saloon behind or under the settee (all taken up by electrical and battery), lack of storage in 2 smaller forward locker to put anything other than spare lines and fenders, lack of storage in the main forward locker if genset and water maker is installed (where will I put spinnaker and spare sail), lack of storage under cockpit seats (taken up by steering cable), lack of storage for food (small fridge and pantry),lack of storage for spare parts. Lack of outside storage is really our main concern. If Seawind can somehow utilize the space at the bow and add a hatch access (like outremer 45) so we can put some spare sail and a folding bike, I’ll feel a lot better. As other mentioned, we can probably convert the smaller aft guest cabin to a dedicated storage space. I Really looking forward to your sea trial impression, since Seawind does not publish the polar diagram. We did a sea trial in Annapolis with take-the-wheel class, but the skipper on that sea trial was more focused on getting his female friend tiller time than allowing paid guest opportunity to really push the boats performance (no code 0 on a 10 knot day). I suspect the boat can sail to under 40deg apparent wind.
The ability to get a safe and able new boat at the price range of other used cats is a winner. Hands down. The daily costs savings from not having to repair, renew parts or replace (like sails and rigging et cetera), on a new boat, gives time to generate future funds or slow usage of existing funds. I have been awaiting this video for some time, thanks.
Another great video folks! Thanks for your work. For me the go simple go small go now is a good mantra for avoiding the mistakes people make oh too often. Whilst you can navigate the world in a large boat the extra complications that come with it often hold people up. So many times I have people talking about wanting to sail the world and that they are prepping for it, but they are generally still around because you can never be fully ready, and sometimes you have to just go now, when enough is enough.
Love innovation and yacht builders have to realize that it doesn't cost a fortune. Little changes brings any yacht out of the dark ages. Good review as always
I work all my life, served my Country so now it going now as soon as I get my boat I love Seawinds. But my boat will be a 30 ft mono hull, so I can go now. Love your channel keep up the good work I am sure I will be watching.
Thank you for this review it was well done, just a point on the space situation, if your looking for more space you could always turn the aft guest cabin into a pantry come spare parts/ workshop area as it is really not a useful guest cabin anyway, also you forgot to mention that the salon table will compress down to become a day bed or for a watch bed, otherwise excellent review, personally I love these boats
I don't like to read. In actual fact I don't think I've ever read a book cover to cover since leaving school, but these, these books interest me. A whole bunch. Love the Channel by the way.
Nick / Teresa, another great review that we have come to expect from you both. As someone who has been fixated on waiting for more money and wanting more technology (I’m in the tech field and a bit of a novice sailor), your KISS and do it sooner approach has been resinating with us. We have always planned on spending an extended time in the Caribbean to hone our skills and pursue RYA certifications before attempting any ocean passage. As for the 1250, it does appear to offer the best value of any catamaran you have reviewed to date. Couple of negatives I have are provisioning as you both discussed, but mine is more cold storage related. For a two person passage of 30 days, the refrigeration is of concern unless you purchase electric coolers that can be frig/freezers and also function as additional seating. Don’t expect we’ll need to bring a full wardrobe, so all the storage space will be for provisions and repair/spares Kit - does it have enough for these? Finally, I remember your review of the Balance, and you both were concerned about handling the performance aspect of that. Do you not have similar concerns about the Seawind? Being so light and high performance could make the passage more stressful and uncomfortable - especially for someone with less experience. Looking forward to your video of sailing the 1260 to see how she performed and felt on the water.
The Balance was much more performance focused at the expense of comfort. These 1260's are cruiser comfort focused that also have good performance. Different takes. But you should also not fall for the idea that a fast light boat is uncomfortable. That is mostly marketing fallacy pushed by slow production makers. If you push any boat the their performance edge they become less comfortable. Don't push so hard and comfort is good and you will still enjoy better performance.
Your videos just may be breaking my wife down to the concept of cruising. Thank you! The Seawind had my wife saying. "Wow, I could live with that!". BTW, I ended up buying a couple of sails through Precision Sails for my monohull thanks to you.
Tough one. I agree, as a sailor, that this is an interesting boat. I see how this would catch the eye of a monohull sailor, hard to articulate why, great "package" - but it is so light and seems to be lacking storage space. This is maybe for a reason, so you don't overload it and make just another "multihull minivan pig" out of it...maybe dedicate the single berth to storage/workshop?
I am in love with the idea of buying a catamaran and doing what you and many others are doing. Live on. Full time. I like the 1260. Very nice. And I like the galley down. More room in the saloon for lounging and daily lounging. Plus a nicer galley space to cook in. Grill outside. No problem.
Hi again guys.Great review. I sailed one of these last year in Sydney. Great boat for the money and all your points are accurate about how well it is thought out and considered in nearly all aspects, and I can confirm it is nearly a wind speed boat and really sails well. We had 9-11knts with 12-13 on the beam. However there is one absolute deal breaker for me if I was purchasing. The forward view for a skipper from the helms is just not good enough. A bit of rain/sea on the forward salon windows combined with the large/wide beams/window frames and its a nightmare, especially in busy marinas or waterways. Trip hazard of a raised helm or a crash - choose your risk........Fair winds.
That was my number one issue (and really only). Being at the helm, I feel more like I'm driving a car vs the raised helms in which it's more like a motorcycle...and I prefer the situational awareness of a motorcycle.
That’s exactly what I was thinking. Sailing this somewhere like Sydney Harbour would be a nightmare because of the poor visibility. If I’m wrong could someone please say so as it ticks a lot of other boxes for me.
@@hopoutside The FLIR M series cameras are a good option for increased visibility. If you haven't seen it, check out FLIR's clear cruise app, it's a more or less a thermal target acquisition app that identifies objects in view. Prices have a range of 2.5k up to 70k. Not cheap, but invaluable for night passage and great during the day for object identification. Some have standard color video modes as well, auto pan scanning, etc. Range is ~500 meters for a person, .5 - 6.mn for a small boat like a 10ft dinghy. Rain and fog reduces distance capability, but them the breaks. Personally used thermal in other applications and it's great.
Keelan McCamey , good idea. However not sure that's the sensation I want when cruising, i.e. Sail by video. I want to feel connected to my horizon and prefer a sports/raised helm that you can do that and also easily be protected from inclement conditions. But it's a great boat for the money. Be good to see what they go for in a few years and hopefully come into the budget area of mortals! Personally, I'm looking for a 40ft +, 5-10 year old cat for about $275k. That's hard except for Lagoons
Your score for value for money was a little confusing (thought it a bit low considering), totally agree with most of the other points, I to love the inovation. Waiting to here how you feel after a sea trial, especially with your monohull pedigree and sail performance requirements. The mainsail traveller on roof is a particular feature I would like some feedback on. My biggest concern style wise is the plastic mold like construction....just has a bit of a hobbie cat vibe. You really do have the best review platforms on catamarans out there, cheers
This is the most authentic review i have ever seen/heard.. And thank you so much Guys for being true and simple. For me, the best commentary review is Attitude.
I would love the books. Also, glad you like the same cat I do. I think it is a fantastic boat! The wife of my catamaran sailing instructor loves the galley down on their Seawind 1160
Fabulous Seawind 1260 - very well presented. Just a thought we (my husband and I) have noted in other Catamaran's there are no cot facilities on board if you fall pregnant and have a baby / toddler! We have seen various couples struggle with that sort of situation on the high seas x
Interesting your reaction compared to Craig and Janice from Cruising Off Duty who did not seem to consider it very seriously for their eventual cruising cat. It appeared to me that you guys both had THAT glint in your eyes about this one. I think sailors pick boats with their hearts as much as anything. This looked like it FELT good to you both. And full of clever touches that will continue to endear it to you as you live with it. It also seems to me that if one is buying a cruising cat, it ought to sail pretty well. Some of the condocats are barely faster than a comparable mono. The Seawinds in general seem to really focus on building boats that sail well. One of the big winning features is the athwart ships berth with easy access from both sides. I can't imagine crawling over my partner in the middle of the night on a live aboard! So many of these have side entry only, which would be a deal killer for me. You've been looking a long time. You will KNOW when you've found the right one! (And I think you know.) 😊
After sailing a Jenneau for years and wasted days on end in repairs, I believe your review on the 1260 has truly opened my eyes to Aussie innovation. You have made me a believer. There is a Santa Claus!
So far, this is my favorite boat of the series (and I'm loving the whole series). Thank you very much for putting this together, it's an incredibly useful tool when looking into what boats I should look into as potential homes for traveling the world. I hope you consider me as a contender for the books. Lin is an inspiration! :)
i cant believe im going to be wrong on the account of a few shelves and cabinets! cant they bespoke something?! feels bad losing like this. seawind to the win!!
I really enjoyed your description of how people move about the boat during the day. I could see how the bow would be much warmer than the shaded areas. The hook is when you described moving forward as the temperatures cool - time for a sundowner. I like that a sundowner may be a type of drink or maybe a description of evening activities or maybe both.
Great review. I like the Seawind 1260. If I was buying a Cat, and money was a factor, this would definitely be my boat. How many folks have a million plus dollars to throw out there....
A sail boat in it's simplest form. Perfect for just the two of you most of the time. You could almost live in the cockpit and saloon alone with eskys and BBQ built in. Light, bright, airy, safe and cost effective. And let's not forget, AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE!
galley down is just a way better use of space. bigger saloon and make use of a more 'wasted' space in hull . only if you cook 8 hours a day is it worth, but in reality nobody does.
Thank you for all these wonderful videos. My husband and I plan to pack up our 3 kids (well 1 is now an adult but he's getting a degree to fix desiel engines to come live with us and fix whatever breaks :) ) and live a more simpler/slower life . Unfortunately not many Catamarans come to Northern California boat shows and we can't afford to go to the boat shows on the Eastern side of the U.S. as we are saving for our boat. Your videos make it so we get to learn a little about brands we didn't think of and then we do tons of internet searches to learn more about what we want in our boat from these so again Thank you for spending the time and energy to do these. You guys are awesome. Hugs from Northern California.
And this is why I love your channel, down to earth and practical thinking. If I was going to buy a cat I'd be going for something that sails well and is easy to look after. This looks very good and also the comfort of a cat.
Hi guys great review. I think it's true that all boats are a compromise between space, performance , aesthetics & your budget. I have found that if you make a list of the most important parameters you want then it allows you to refine your search more easily. One other thing about your choice, particularly if your sailing as a couple, is that you probably need a boat that you could single hand if one of you is incapacittaed for whatever reason. The Seawind 1260 is such a catamaran, but so is another great Aussie performance cruising cat, the Fusion 40.
I really like the way your reviews are broken down and compartmentalized . As a person with a dream of eventually casting off and seeing the world slowly and in depth, I would love the books.
So pleased you guys like the 1260 - thanks for reviewing - looking forward to seeing the test sail. It may be galley down but it has direct access to saloon being able to pass meals through... as opposed to having to use stairway.
Thank you for your honest review of the Seawind 1260. I've been looking around now for the last five months and must say that like yourselves, I'm very inclined to this boat. It's as if it's speaking to me and calling me out.... My previous top choice was the Antares 44GS, but for all intents and purpose, this Seawind has won me over. Your review has reassured me that this would be a wise choice. Thank you Nick & Teresa and Happy sailing!!!
Now I know why I skip the review videos...boat envy! 😂 We just bought our first!!! 21 foot MacGregor Venture so we can practice and be like you some day. Cheers! Were landlocked in Colorado so we have to start somewhere.
Love this cat and maybe its because us Aussies have extreme weather that they have designed max ventilation? Also like that it has been designed by sailors so you can feel confident that it will all work they way you want it. André
Nearly a perfect cat for a perfect budget! Why to look for extra sugar when this one is soooo sweet? This is how a cat looks when sailors design and build them! Congratulation for yours impartiality !
I LOVE THIS BOAT. This might be my favorite catamaran (in the realistically priced category). The quality/performance/price is outstanding! Not loving the Kitchen down but with only a 40ft boat you have to expect some compromise and its not the end of the world since I prefer grilling on deck anyway. With that hide away door system its like a living room lanai like they have in Florida/Hawaii homes. When it comes time for me to get my retirement boat, if I don't have a spare extra million to throw at an Exquisite, this is absolutely a contender.
Regardless of the specs, I know from experience that when it's the right boat you feel it the moment you step onboard. I think you guys felt it. This boat seems to tick your boxes, suits your lifestyle, and you love it. So question: Would you go new or look for a 2 or 3 year old 1260? Keith from Zatara recently talked about new boat problems and how buying a reasonably new pre owned boat let's someone else deal with the crap. Thoughts?
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Good morning from New Zealand just wondering would this cat slam in any sort of sea state , eg is the central part to low to the sea , some cats do suffer from this , any thoughts 💭
I'm not a sailor, but I'm a designer of small spaces, and I really appreciate the thoroughness with which you review these. I find all of the nerdy moments like standoffs, fuel breathers and sealed conduits extremely satisfying and I'm sure the designers and manufacturers appreciate you pointing these out when they have gone the extra mile. All in all, for thoroughness I give you 10 out of 10.
Awww, thanks mate!
Simple solution for additional storage is to convert one of the guest cabins into a storage cum workshop area. If you are going into remote areas for extended periods of time a decent workshop is pretty much essential anyway so carry one less person/couple - besides - how often do you have four extra people on-board anyway. As always another excellent review of a catamaran that, in this case, I would generally not considered, thank-you for opening my eyes yet again.
As always stay safe and keep having fun. P.S. those books look like an excellent read right up there with the Dashew Offshore series.
Depending on goals obliviously, but customizing the 3rd bedroom to be dedicated storage opens lots of options. I've seen it as an option on mono's (Jean and Bene) from the factory, not so much on the cats which surprises me. I've seen custom work where the bed box is cut out and shelves are put in, really improves storage. For the 1260 specifically, the cockpit and dual helm layout lacks storage under the settees that many other Cats have.
@@ZeLogicnator5k Randy and Lennie on SV Happy Together had a forward cabin on their new Leopard 50 fitted out as a dedicated work area and parts storage and it is excellent. To be honest I don't know why more blue water boat manufacturers don't have it as an option. As you and T say storage on this cat is a problem and I see this as a solution.
Hey Mike, do you know if the cockpit settee’s are empty? Would access panels help provide additional storage? It seems too easy a solution. I’ve never been on one, but without a doubt, it’s my top contender.
@@clayfarnet970 So the transom setup is Sink, Settee, and the grill station. There is one port under each area for access to gas/water lines. While you "could" use it for storage the ports are not very large so they do limit you. The cockpit settee does not have flip open hatches like the saloon settee.
I would say it has significantly less storage as there is overall less cabinetry than other cats and the price point reflects that. I personally could make it work and like the minimalist style, though there is no obvious place for a tank rack. Of my issues and observations, storage was not one of them (though it has less than other 40's).
One thing folk should be aware of is *weight and stability*
Some might find this an interesting read: *Stability guide for smaller vessels* www.dma.dk/Vaekst/EU/EUOestersoestrategi/PAsafe/Notifications%20PA%20Safe/Stability%20Guide%20for%20Smaller%20Vessels%20by%20Danish%20Fishermen's%20Occupational%20Health%20Services.pdf
It's very dangerous to put a lot of weight in one corner of the boat, because it moves center of gravity, Cg
This boat wasn't even on my radar for dream boats until now. And it's so affordable in comparison!
It is very reasonable
This boat has been on my radar a very long time. It’s all been said so I will stay brief with something I don’t think anyone has mentioned. I have looked for all the info I can find on this boat and e drives. I suggest an alternative setup for the 1260: substitute an electric drive (ie Oceanvolt) to replace one of the yanmar diesels along with a bank of lithium ion batteries. Why? Takes less room. Use it for storage (I would also use the aft cabin over the e-drive and combine extra space) Takes less diesel. Use your one e-drive for moving for boat in marina and other short jaunts. Charge your batteries with solar, the prop gen. of your e-drive and finally your Yanmar alternator. Run them both at once, should be fine as yanmar charging can offset electricity usage and charge batteries. Eliminate the generator. Yanmar is your generator. Generators are heavy, especially in a performance low weight oriented boat like a Seawind, expensive to buy and maintain. Also use your battery bank for induction cooking in galley. Eliminate your gas (except maybe for your cockpit bbq which we all love!). Food for thought.
Maine CAT HAS A 38 that is all electric but its much pricier that a seawind; even though the main cat fits in shipping containers for easy transport.
Will_hack_for_plane_fare I also like the MAine Cats, especially the Maine Cat 41. Check out the OKellys review. Excellent Open Cockpit combined with living space. Daggerboards as well. No doubt could do EDrive on a 41 as well!
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@Steven Hall what you describe is a parallel hybrid and would be somewhat unusual.
Another alternative is two electric drives plus a generator; a serial hybrid. This may be a bit more common for electric boats with a backup generator. (In big ships this is often called Integrated Electric Propulsion.)
Since as you note generators aren't really great, a cool solution for a better generator is to connect a standard marine engine to an electric motor and use the motor as a generator only, to charge the propulsion battery bank or power the electric drive motors or house loads. Maintenance of the generator then becomes like any other marine engine (no special generator parts), and it needn't be a very powerful engine.
On the storage front, I view the 1260 as the ideal boat for couples cruising where want to be able to have another couple/ kids along occasionally. As such I think that 4 bedrooms and probably even three dedicated staterooms is unnecessary. What about converting the starboard aft bedroom into storage? Could set up a proper maintenance/tool storage area, pantry, probably install a deep freezer, etc. You would still have two proper staterooms assuming went for the master cabin in port hull + salon convertible bed for when have a larger group. If planning to do extended cruising and you want 4 bedrooms, I think you need a 45-50' boat.
For the use of the word, "obviate", I give this video a perfect score of 10 out of 10. Well done, Nick.
Haha. Cheers mate
Here, here; I'd give him a standing obviation.
This boat is a surprise when you walk in and poke around, it’s a very practical boat because it’s born from Australian summertime sailing in Sydney harbour with friends, which means space to lounge around and swim from the boat and drink beer wearing swimsuits . It’s a spacious thing and oozes practicality . The galley down is so darn big and has so much counter space and ventilation that is seems obvious. It’s a home away from home boat which brings the outside in . And those front windows make the boat almost like an open tent it lets air in and heat out. There are so many simple solutions built into this boat love it.
There it is, winner. Nothing wrong with galley down and the livability in the 1260 is incredibly similar to the 1600 (which is top of my list). Selfishly, I hope you do end up with the 1260 so I can witness the build up, commissioning and the 12 months of refinement that follow and the route taken from Vietnam (wish list request please head into Thai gulf and spend time around Koh Chang and other similar islands). Thank you both for another great review.
I've been waiting on this one. I have a rather large bias when it comes to this boat. My wife and I have been looking shopping online and boat shows for almost 5 years now. We decided on this boat prior to Annapolis. This boat has met and tick so many boxes for us. The safety, the ability for a couple to sail this boat together. As far as storage for us it should not be that big of an issue, personally I will be turning the aft guest cabin into my garage. The deposit has been made and the build slot reserved now we just wait as the excitement builds. Thank you for the review and confirming a lot of what I had already thought of this boat.
Awesome. Congratulations mate. It’s a lovely boat
SV Blue Agave enjoy your soon to be beautiful new boat! I’m exceedingly jealous as we do not have the budget for new and there are not many 1260s - if any at the moment - on the used market so instead I stalk the used 1160 listings waiting for the day we have enough saved up to go.
So jelly! Enjoy your new catamaran♥️
SV Blue Agave our top choice too. Three years to go & we’ll see you out there 😊
@@monicapuccetti3310 Keep an eye out for any 1250's, same boat only the rear seating is the same as the 1160
I know this is an old video
But I have had a Seawind for two months
And it’s a terrific boat
Very useable and fast and easy to sail
This boat is a beauty
The layout is easy to live with and it’s a practical boat very stiff construction in big seas it’s easy to operate and sail and you feel safe
There’s no need to go forward or leave the cockpit when sailing or anchoring all anchoring is through a chain counter at the helm
We really love it and we are so glad we didn’t buy the lagoon we wanted to buy originally now we’ve had the seawind we can see how that would have been a terrible mistake .
Hows the storage? How much solar do you have and is it enough?
Hi John, would you please tell me more about the performance of the boat in different wind force and sailing angles. Thanks a lot.
Which model do you have and what is your favorite feature?
@@khamawy1 I am interested too!
@@markybolton we had a Seawind 1160 and lived aboard for three year s they are bullet proof hulls and rig highly recommend this model , only difficult was with all catamarans is that they do pitch slightly more than a mono and can hobby horse like any cat hull but
Only 10percent of the day , then things come good on change of wind and tide , they’re Solid and don’t creak or make noises and they have a wave breaker between the hulls which work perfectly. Best liveaboard cat .
Ahoy. Thanks for the tour. I enjoy to see you videos really straight forward. To go around the Seawind is in my opinion the best choice. Price, quality, performance and even space. There is enough space. You are only 2 and there are 3 cabins. Anyway keep going on with your production and stay save.
My husband who is a veteran would really appreciate being able to sail around the world. Thank you for the inspiration.
I am in LOVE!!! THANK YOU!! I’ve been long anticipating your review of the 1260 and it did not disappoint! After my husband and I sat down for this video, it’s practically solidified our decision on the 1260. The only thing left is our test sail which we will be scheduling this spring!
* I do secretly hope that you decide on a 1260 as well so we can continue to live our 1260 dreams vicariously through you until our purchase! ;) *
Thank you both for continuing to produce such quality reviews. Your feedback will undoubtably be an important part of the decision making process for so many sailers and we can’t thank you enough!
The 1260 is our No.1 & has been for the last 6 months. Thanks so much for the review, you just secured another sale for Seawind! 3 more years of working life & she’s ours! Can’t wait.
My fav so far! We have just started the cruising life in Australia, and have a Peter Snell Easy catamaran. Which has many similarities to this sea wind. If we could afford a new boat we would choose this. It’s perfect. ..and I ha ve become a galley down convert. I love my spacious functional kitchen! We use the spare berth for storage and have more than we need.
As a person that sailed solo (32' Endeavour) for years, this is a boat that I would feel comfortable circumnavigating solo, and would be able to buy this new, customized the way I want it. Looking forward to your sailing video on this and what you feel about having to solo this boat. Solo, the amount of space needed would not be the same as a couple. The performance for me is a big safety feature. Being to get out of the way of weather at 12 kn vs plodding along at 5-7 kn in a mono-hull is huge.
We fell in love with this boat in Annapolis ( met you on her) we have been waiting impatiently for your review!
We are also going to charter her in March to experience her on the water. It looks like this may be our next boat!
How many people saw their Tweet and thought "Holy cow! They are giving away a catamaran!" I really hope you guys don't stop doing boat reviews after you find your perfect catamaran. You do them so well. I'm not in the market to buy a boat but I always enjoy watching your reviews.
Haha cheers mate. We would
Love to give away a catamaran! That would be awesome. Just need to grow the channel a bit
Thanks for a sailor’s perspective on the Seawind 1260. It seems like a really sailable catamaran at a price that encourages me to go sooner rather than later. A good Aussie boat!
I looked over and sailed a 1260 at Annapolis last fall and really fell in love with the boat.
I'm really glad to see you guys give it such high marks. That means a lot knowing it wasn't a confirmation bias on my part.
Brilliant presentation.
I love the 1260. It’s my favourite Catarmaran.
Seawind makes the best boats & have so much experience.
It ticks all my boxes. It has a beautiful practical design. So well thought out. It’s built for safety & comfortable sailing plus it’s fast.
Simplicity always works.
Great review from you both 🏄♀️🐬
Aww thank you so much
This cat has pulled out all the stops & has surpassed all my expectations of a sailboat. I love the roll down windows and the helmsman / woman can have their drinks passed directly to them from the galley. The double helm with, removable glass door with hard shaded top & wide access outside along the cabin are another fabulous feature.. This Seawind 1260 is at the top of my list for catamaran.
Great review, you nailed most of the boat spot on. We are a little based of course living on one for 12 months now, but we have had 4 adults living full time, sailing from Australia out to the Pacific and found space not to be any great issue.
That said, one thing you do not cover is the pro and cons of dagger boards and mini keels. After cruising for 12 months in and out of sand bars, reefs etc, I am an enthusiast for mini keels. When you bump the bottom, you are not going to rip out a sail drive or bust up a rudder. They are all nicely protected out back. And yes we all touch bottom at some time, or your not exploring exotic places.
I have started following your channel, please share as much of your experience as possible regarding the 1260. Thank you and congratulations!
We walked on the 1160 at the Sydney boat show a few years back and that was the turning point for me on this crazy sailing dream because I’d never been on a proper sailboat to realise that it didn’t have to be a vacation, it could be a lifestyle. Back then I knew approximately zero about sailing but the Seawind dealer still took the time to explain everything to us and treated us like serious buyers (despite the fact that we were dressed substantially less rich than most of the other boat show attendees and did not have the money to buy then). It is likely because of that care (and the fact that even as a non-sailor I still found myself saying “that’s clever” and “that makes so much sense”) that Seawind will be the brand of the boat we purchase in two years once we’ve saved enough. Two years and a lot of learning later and I still agree with newbie me - Seawind is a brand I trust to make a boat that will take us safely around the world. Also shout out to the Seawind dealers who are great people who love their boats and care about their customers - seriously no other brand really gave us the time of day in our middle class attire. All that being said I’d love to see how you guys manage the slightly less storage in the Pacific if you go for this boat - it does seem manageable from people’s comment suggestions but without actually trying it you’ve got no way of knowing I guess.
The overriding reason for this boat: It is made for a couple/solo sailor. That means it isn't made to impress the neighbours. The only reason to not buy this one is if you lack the space to store stuff.
Agreed mate
And you don't want to prepare food in a hull.
So, if as Nick says you want to spend 3-4 months off grid etc, then that will predominantly be just a couple (possibly with some friends as fly-ins, etc), so convert the 3rd cabin into a storage/utility area, leave an option for a hanging bunk if necessary for flexibilty. That would alleviate the clutter/supplies/storage with good design racking and still give you comfortable 4/5 berths when needed. You have to compromise somewhere and for your specific plans this looks like an all-round winner with some little mods.
Tom Bobtail personally love the galley down....and yes we’ve owned both
@@crgmrgn You have a great idea. My only concern would be that the boat is so light you might spoil the balance loading the guest bow down with all the stores and other stuff. Cats can be weight sensitive and while I agree with the idea it might be limited as to how much you could pack into the forward guest stateroom. If a cat is going to be heavy you want it in the aft not the bows. But maybe I am totally wrong on that.
Who doesn't love Lin & Larry? Their books were a massive inspiration for me to learn to sail. Also, that was the best argument I've heard to have a galley down. I've always preferred the idea of galley up, but you made some really excellent points, and as I'm also looking for a 40-ish foot cat, it makes a lot of sense to have it down. Thank you. Loving this series!
Cheers Renee, good luck with your search
This is by far my very favourite catamaran. It's just so practical
She amazing isn’t she?
ok. I've watched this episode a few times and I have to say one thing... Nick's restraint from talking for almost 5 minutes (17:34) is MOST IMPRESSIVE!!! You should be crowned "Male Partner of the Year". That is incredible for someone that loves to state his opinion.
How does a 35 minute video seem so short? I love how you guys had all the counter-arguments for the negatives on the tips of your tongues. You clearly like this boat. Could easily see you two choosing this exact model for your new adventures. And why not? Having to get a bit creative with your storage seems a 'no-brainer' for all the advantages. Besides, it's not like there is any other possible way to get all the things you liked about this boat without this exact trade-off. Use that rear guest berth as temp storage and drop off the grid.
I’ve been watching your videos for several years now, and I’ve been wanting (quite badly) to leave the rat race behind, and your videos keep that dream alive. Thank you for that.
I have a family of 4, so naturally having a large space/catamaran would be very nice. Everyone can have their own space, but still plenty of room to have everyone together. But as the years tick on I’ve realised that my girls are growing up and I’ll see them move off into the world on their own, thus the need for something with ridiculous amounts of room won’t be needed shortly. After watching this review, the motto slapped me in the face. And it didn’t even bother with the wet kipper. Time for a rethink.
Keep it up guys.
The go now mentality is important mate.
Love this boat! My favorite of all the boats you've reviewed so far. Go simple, go small, go now! Thank you both
The thing about the Seawinds I like the most is the simplicity & workmanship, hence reliability for the money.On top of that they sail well. When your living on board, you dont want to be spending all your time doing repairs or maintenance over enjoying your lucky life in the surroundings. Seawind just make a great sailing boat for a great price. No I dont work for Seawind....Thanks for the review guys & love the mantra from LP.
Nice comment mate
I agree totally. Also the fact seawind will customise the boat for you, put in extra cabinets and USB ports to charge electricals etc.
I would convert the aft cabin to pantry/storage area. You still have a bed for guests to sleep over.
Love the simplicity and functionality of this design. Wonderful use of space. Can’t wait to one day be out on the water but I know the hard work will pay off one day.
I loved the 1260! I wanted to get on that boat for the last couple years and finally did at Annapolis. The galley down was hit for me but not so much for my wife (until I gave her some info on the design). Some other key points of the galley not mentioned, the motion when working in the galley is minimal due to being closer to the center of buoyancy. Most cats with galley up will feel more motion because they are standing higher than the CoB. Second is the galley is still open to the area above! You can easily hand drinks or food straight to the helm when the window is rolled down without leaving the galley. I don’t think you feel disconnected to the rest of the boat unless everyone is out on the trampoline.
It’s a good system in my
Opinion
Hope to welcome you to the Seawind family someday. We've had our 1160 Lite for 3 years now and love it more today than when we took delivery. The other thing that is worth mentioning is how great the factory support is after purchase.
Yeah the factory support seems legendary on the forums
You have to think outside the box towards storage. I would suggest that that small aft berth be converted into a garage/ pantry! It solves the problem with out destroying the integrity of the boat.
As for the books, I'd love either copy since I do not own either in my library of seamanship books. Great shows and keep safe. Patrick
Guys, thanks for another brilliant review! Go small, go simple, go now! I guess we have a winner...
Love, Carlos
Haha. Close to being a winner
Most of your other boats are a dream. $1M + is no where what I can afford. This is practical. I like the layout, price, and speed. This is the most practical boat I have seen on your channel that is affordable and reasonable.
This boat has been my favourite cruising cat for a while(even if we own a L450S...). Love the twin helms, the door and the speed. Also nice to see you guys so worked up:-)
You do such a great job of explaining the trade-offs. Boats are all about compromise and trade-offs no one boat does it all. One of the hardest things is deciding what you wanted to do and what the important things are for you. Doing a great job of helping figure that all out.
Thanks for another great review. This is one that I was waiting to see. Can’t wait to see the test sail.
I wonder how many people you have given the final push with your energy and passion,
Watching you both for ages it is a way of being in your bubble for a few minutes and is very inspirational.
Excellent!!
Aww thanks. We hope we do inspire. 😀
I've really being enjoying your cat reviews, thanks. I have to give you a hard time about two things. You liked the 1260 so much you forgot to properly criticize the nav. station. With the bigger living area, it would have been nice to have a bigger desk area, for navigation and a computer. Also, you never talk about interior ceiling heights. :)
In for a penny, in for a pound... you can afford this boat if you want it, a leap of faith is what your future plans require if I understand you rightly. Best wishes whatever you decide to do and look forward to watching it unfold.
Loved this boat and the one piece concept. It makes me think they will hold their value in the future. Also, on top of the sturdiness Nick pointed out, I think it will make less noise.
Your videos are detailed and really good reviews from a true sailor perspective.
I learn a lot from your videos and would love to buy one of these catamarans and go exploring.
At an age now, have a bit of money and comfortable, maybe too much so!
Trouble is I need to work out how to get it (catamaran or monohull) out of the marina without damaging it, another boat or myself, possibly drowning in the process as I cannot swim.
So at least I can continue to be a couch potato in wet and windy London and dream of a better life on the high seas.
Hi Terysa, I’ve been looking forward to this review since we talked at the Seawind Party in Annapolis. We share the same view as what you mentioned:
Pro: enclosed helm position, large open saloon, super easy to sail as couple, large Bimini+Davit that can fit up to 1.2kW solar, interior access to both engines, sailing performance, indoor-outdoor space, ventilation
Cons: storage, shroud obstructs the companionway, sketchy step up to main sail, lack of storage in guest cabin to put more than a carry-on, lack of storage in main cabin closet, lack of storage in saloon behind or under the settee (all taken up by electrical and battery), lack of storage in 2 smaller forward locker to put anything other than spare lines and fenders, lack of storage in the main forward locker if genset and water maker is installed (where will I put spinnaker and spare sail), lack of storage under cockpit seats (taken up by steering cable), lack of storage for food (small fridge and pantry),lack of storage for spare parts.
Lack of outside storage is really our main concern. If Seawind can somehow utilize the space at the bow and add a hatch access (like outremer 45) so we can put some spare sail and a folding bike, I’ll feel a lot better. As other mentioned, we can probably convert the smaller aft guest cabin to a dedicated storage space.
I Really looking forward to your sea trial impression, since Seawind does not publish the polar diagram. We did a sea trial in Annapolis with take-the-wheel class, but the skipper on that sea trial was more focused on getting his female friend tiller time than allowing paid guest opportunity to really push the boats performance (no code 0 on a 10 knot day). I suspect the boat can sail to under 40deg apparent wind.
The ability to get a safe and able new boat at the price range of other used cats is a winner. Hands down. The daily costs savings from not having to repair, renew parts or replace (like sails and rigging et cetera), on a new boat, gives time to generate future funds or slow usage of existing funds.
I have been awaiting this video for some time, thanks.
I think this looks great! Like your review a lot better than the other sailing channel did on this boat.
Cheers mate
Another great video folks! Thanks for your work.
For me the go simple go small go now is a good mantra for avoiding the mistakes people make oh too often. Whilst you can navigate the world in a large boat the extra complications that come with it often hold people up. So many times I have people talking about wanting to sail the world and that they are prepping for it, but they are generally still around because you can never be fully ready, and sometimes you have to just go now, when enough is enough.
I like this boat, pretty amazed at the price also.
I'm just a couple of hundred grand short of the asking price though ;)
Love innovation and yacht builders have to realize that it doesn't cost a fortune. Little changes brings any yacht out of the dark ages. Good review as always
Thank you
I really like galley down on this boat. It looks perfect for the two of you.
I work all my life, served my Country so now it going now as soon as I get my boat I love Seawinds. But my boat will be a 30 ft mono hull, so I can go now. Love your channel keep up the good work I am sure I will be watching.
Excellent decision- go as soon as you can! Best of luck!
Thank you for this review it was well done, just a point on the space situation, if your looking for more space you could always turn the aft guest cabin into a pantry come spare parts/ workshop area as it is really not a useful guest cabin anyway, also you forgot to mention that the salon table will compress down to become a day bed or for a watch bed, otherwise excellent review, personally I love these boats
I don't like to read. In actual fact I don't think I've ever read a book cover to cover since leaving school, but these, these books interest me. A whole bunch. Love the Channel by the way.
Thank you so much for doing this video. I love this boat!
I'm really interested to see what you say after a test sail.
Nick / Teresa, another great review that we have come to expect from you both. As someone who has been fixated on waiting for more money and wanting more technology (I’m in the tech field and a bit of a novice sailor), your KISS and do it sooner approach has been resinating with us. We have always planned on spending an extended time in the Caribbean to hone our skills and pursue RYA certifications before attempting any ocean passage.
As for the 1250, it does appear to offer the best value of any catamaran you have reviewed to date. Couple of negatives I have are provisioning as you both discussed, but mine is more cold storage related. For a two person passage of 30 days, the refrigeration is of concern unless you purchase electric coolers that can be frig/freezers and also function as additional seating. Don’t expect we’ll need to bring a full wardrobe, so all the storage space will be for provisions and repair/spares Kit - does it have enough for these?
Finally, I remember your review of the Balance, and you both were concerned about handling the performance aspect of that. Do you not have similar concerns about the Seawind? Being so light and high performance could make the passage more stressful and uncomfortable - especially for someone with less experience. Looking forward to your video of sailing the 1260 to see how she performed and felt on the water.
The Balance was much more performance focused at the expense of comfort. These 1260's are cruiser comfort focused that also have good performance. Different takes. But you should also not fall for the idea that a fast light boat is uncomfortable. That is mostly marketing fallacy pushed by slow production makers. If you push any boat the their performance edge they become less comfortable. Don't push so hard and comfort is good and you will still enjoy better performance.
Designed by an experienced sailor and many innovations are evocative of Amel.
Your videos just may be breaking my wife down to the concept of cruising. Thank you! The Seawind had my wife saying. "Wow, I could live with that!". BTW, I ended up buying a couple of sails through Precision Sails for my monohull thanks to you.
Haha, glad you like the sails and good luck with convincing the wife.
Tough one. I agree, as a sailor, that this is an interesting boat. I see how this would catch the eye of a monohull sailor, hard to articulate why, great "package" - but it is so light and seems to be lacking storage space. This is maybe for a reason, so you don't overload it and make just another "multihull minivan pig" out of it...maybe dedicate the single berth to storage/workshop?
I am in love with the idea of buying a catamaran and doing what you and many others are doing. Live on. Full time. I like the 1260. Very nice. And I like the galley down. More room in the saloon for lounging and daily lounging. Plus a nicer galley space to cook in. Grill outside. No problem.
Hi again guys.Great review. I sailed one of these last year in Sydney. Great boat for the money and all your points are accurate about how well it is thought out and considered in nearly all aspects, and I can confirm it is nearly a wind speed boat and really sails well. We had 9-11knts with 12-13 on the beam. However there is one absolute deal breaker for me if I was purchasing. The forward view for a skipper from the helms is just not good enough. A bit of rain/sea on the forward salon windows combined with the large/wide beams/window frames and its a nightmare, especially in busy marinas or waterways. Trip hazard of a raised helm or a crash - choose your risk........Fair winds.
That was my number one issue (and really only). Being at the helm, I feel more like I'm driving a car vs the raised helms in which it's more like a motorcycle...and I prefer the situational awareness of a motorcycle.
That’s exactly what I was thinking. Sailing this somewhere like Sydney Harbour would be a nightmare because of the poor visibility. If I’m wrong could someone please say so as it ticks a lot of other boxes for me.
Jim Connolly would adding cameras on the mast fix? Have seen these on higher end yachts. Thanks
@@hopoutside The FLIR M series cameras are a good option for increased visibility. If you haven't seen it, check out FLIR's clear cruise app, it's a more or less a thermal target acquisition app that identifies objects in view. Prices have a range of 2.5k up to 70k. Not cheap, but invaluable for night passage and great during the day for object identification. Some have standard color video modes as well, auto pan scanning, etc. Range is ~500 meters for a person, .5 - 6.mn for a small boat like a 10ft dinghy. Rain and fog reduces distance capability, but them the breaks. Personally used thermal in other applications and it's great.
Keelan McCamey , good idea. However not sure that's the sensation I want when cruising, i.e. Sail by video. I want to feel connected to my horizon and prefer a sports/raised helm that you can do that and also easily be protected from inclement conditions. But it's a great boat for the money. Be good to see what they go for in a few years and hopefully come into the budget area of mortals! Personally, I'm looking for a 40ft +, 5-10 year old cat for about $275k. That's hard except for Lagoons
Your review has made me look at this one a little closer. Thank you for all your honest comments, GO SMALL, GO SIMPLE, GO NOW. Perfect
Your score for value for money was a little confusing (thought it a bit low considering), totally agree with most of the other points, I to love the inovation. Waiting to here how you feel after a sea trial, especially with your monohull pedigree and sail performance requirements. The mainsail traveller on roof is a particular feature I would like some feedback on. My biggest concern style wise is the plastic mold like construction....just has a bit of a hobbie cat vibe.
You really do have the best review platforms on catamarans out there, cheers
Thank you so much mate.
This is the most authentic review i have ever seen/heard.. And thank you so much Guys for being true and simple. For me, the best commentary review is Attitude.
I would love the books. Also, glad you like the same cat I do. I think it is a fantastic boat! The wife of my catamaran sailing instructor loves the galley down on their Seawind 1160
Fabulous Seawind 1260 - very well presented. Just a thought we (my husband and I) have noted in other Catamaran's there are no cot facilities on board if you fall pregnant and have a baby / toddler! We have seen various couples struggle with that sort of situation on the high seas x
You could turn the aft cabin into a cot if needed 😊
Interesting your reaction compared to Craig and Janice from Cruising Off Duty who did not seem to consider it very seriously for their eventual cruising cat. It appeared to me that you guys both had THAT glint in your eyes about this one. I think sailors pick boats with their hearts as much as anything. This looked like it FELT good to you both. And full of clever touches that will continue to endear it to you as you live with it.
It also seems to me that if one is buying a cruising cat, it ought to sail pretty well. Some of the condocats are barely faster than a comparable mono. The Seawinds in general seem to really focus on building boats that sail well. One of the big winning features is the athwart ships berth with easy access from both sides. I can't imagine crawling over my partner in the middle of the night on a live aboard! So many of these have side entry only, which would be a deal killer for me.
You've been looking a long time. You will KNOW when you've found the right one! (And I think you know.) 😊
After sailing a Jenneau for years and wasted days on end in repairs, I believe your review on the 1260 has truly opened my eyes to Aussie innovation. You have made me a believer. There is a Santa Claus!
So far, this is my favorite boat of the series (and I'm loving the whole series). Thank you very much for putting this together, it's an incredibly useful tool when looking into what boats I should look into as potential homes for traveling the world.
I hope you consider me as a contender for the books. Lin is an inspiration! :)
Cheers mate
I would read both of those books. I love these reviews. The most informative information without a hidden agenda.
i cant believe im going to be wrong on the account of a few shelves and cabinets! cant they bespoke something?! feels bad losing like this. seawind to the win!!
I really enjoyed your description of how people move about the boat during the day. I could see how the bow would be much warmer than the shaded areas. The hook is when you described moving forward as the temperatures cool - time for a sundowner. I like that a sundowner may be a type of drink or maybe a description of evening activities or maybe both.
I thought the boat was layout great.
The 41’ is a great size. And I love the front “sundowner” front seats.
Front seat area is lovely
Sailing Yacht Ruby Rose
Oops bad English on my part. I meant to say “laid out great”.
Love your channel by the way.
Great review. I like the Seawind 1260. If I was buying a Cat, and money was a factor, this would definitely be my boat. How many folks have a million plus dollars to throw out there....
Go Now! After watching dozens of your cat reviews this one is my fave!
A sail boat in it's simplest form. Perfect for just the two of you most of the time. You could almost live in the cockpit and saloon alone with eskys and BBQ built in. Light, bright, airy, safe and cost effective. And let's not forget, AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE!
Oi oi oi!
galley down is just a way better use of space. bigger saloon and make use of a more 'wasted' space in hull . only if you cook 8 hours a day is it worth, but in reality nobody does.
Glad you agree mate
This is my dream boat. Saw it in Annapolis and fell in love. Lin Pardy’s book would be a nice addition to my current boat library.
This is one of my favorite boats you have reviewed...also I like when you get nerdy!
Awesome. More nerd stuff coming up
Thank you for all these wonderful videos. My husband and I plan to pack up our 3 kids (well 1 is now an adult but he's getting a degree to fix desiel engines to come live with us and fix whatever breaks :) ) and live a more simpler/slower life . Unfortunately not many Catamarans come to Northern California boat shows and we can't afford to go to the boat shows on the Eastern side of the U.S. as we are saving for our boat. Your videos make it so we get to learn a little about brands we didn't think of and then we do tons of internet searches to learn more about what we want in our boat from these so again Thank you for spending the time and energy to do these. You guys are awesome. Hugs from Northern California.
Best of luck with your plans Jessica!
Such an amazing boat, I’m surprised some of the scores weren’t higher!
Well don’t forget to vote mate
You guys do the best reviews, really insightful and interesting. Always enjoy your banter too!
And this is why I love your channel, down to earth and practical thinking. If I was going to buy a cat I'd be going for something that sails well and is easy to look after. This looks very good and also the comfort of a cat.
Thank you so much
Would love to see what you thought of the Aventura 34
Hi guys great review.
I think it's true that all boats are a compromise between space, performance , aesthetics & your budget. I have found that if you make a list of the most important parameters you want then it allows you to refine your search more easily.
One other thing about your choice, particularly if your sailing as a couple, is that you probably need a boat that you could single hand if one of you is incapacittaed for whatever reason.
The Seawind 1260 is such a catamaran, but so is another great Aussie performance cruising cat, the Fusion 40.
Did you have a chance to look at the 1190? The one with the Dagger Boards? Also, nice books.
No we haven’t seen the 1190 yet
I really like the way your reviews are broken down and compartmentalized . As a person with a dream of eventually casting off and seeing the world slowly and in depth, I would love the books.
This is a stunning boat.... I would put money on you guys doing a deal to build the perfect Seawind Ruby Rose II .... :D
So pleased you guys like the 1260 - thanks for reviewing - looking forward to seeing the test sail. It may be galley down but it has direct access to saloon being able to pass meals through... as opposed to having to use stairway.
Looks as though you have chosen you boat, good choice.
Thank you for your honest review of the Seawind 1260. I've been looking around now for the last five months and must say that like yourselves, I'm very inclined to this boat. It's as if it's speaking to me and calling me out.... My previous top choice was the Antares 44GS, but for all intents and purpose, this Seawind has won me over. Your review has reassured me that this would be a wise choice. Thank you Nick & Teresa and Happy sailing!!!
This review was perfect.. makes me want to drop it all and go now!
Go mate, go!
Now I know why I skip the review videos...boat envy! 😂 We just bought our first!!! 21 foot MacGregor Venture so we can practice and be like you some day. Cheers! Were landlocked in Colorado so we have to start somewhere.
Love this cat and maybe its because us Aussies have extreme weather that they have designed max ventilation? Also like that it has been designed by sailors so you can feel confident that it will all work they way you want it. André
I love your reviews, you do a really good job of taking us to the yachts and see the little details others pass right over
Nearly a perfect cat for a perfect budget! Why to look for extra sugar when this one is soooo sweet?
This is how a cat looks when sailors design and build them!
Congratulation for yours impartiality !
I LOVE THIS BOAT. This might be my favorite catamaran (in the realistically priced category). The quality/performance/price is outstanding! Not loving the Kitchen down but with only a 40ft boat you have to expect some compromise and its not the end of the world since I prefer grilling on deck anyway. With that hide away door system its like a living room lanai like they have in Florida/Hawaii homes. When it comes time for me to get my retirement boat, if I don't have a spare extra million to throw at an Exquisite, this is absolutely a contender.
Regardless of the specs, I know from experience that when it's the right boat you feel it the moment you step onboard. I think you guys felt it. This boat seems to tick your boxes, suits your lifestyle, and you love it. So question: Would you go new or look for a 2 or 3 year old 1260? Keith from Zatara recently talked about new boat problems and how buying a reasonably new pre owned boat let's someone else deal with the crap. Thoughts?