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Aha! I had a pretty good sense this is the one. It might be the one for me too should I ever decide to sell my 50' Riva and sail instead of motor. Of all the yachts you reviewed, this is the one I liked the most because of the attention to details, and Seawind's flexibility in regards to customization without overloading the costs.
We are falling in love with the 1260 and this channel as well. For those of us that are looking for both the technical and livable aspects of each catamaran, you have been a valuable resource. You have our gratitude and we are subscribing.
I realy like the personal attention from Seawind ! It looks like they realy care and want their clients to be happy with the choise of Seawind ! Respect for that ! Cheers .
Service from the factory has been fantastic for us (we bought our 1160 Lite 3 years ago.) It is really great to be on a first-name basis with the managment team.
Another great advantage of the boss being directly involved in warranty claims is that it should speed up rectification of production problems and also accelerate the uptake of improvements suggested by owners, versus collating problems and ideas from multiple dealers who may only hear of a problem or idea once and disregard it.
We met Richard when we were cruising the Queensland coast over 30 years ago. He was on board one of his Seawinds, getting to sail it in real cruising conditions, looking for ways to change and improve them for the better. The Seawinds have adapted and changed over the years and kept up with all the best innovations. (Catherine ex Catchcry)
I told you....this is the boat, this is the one! I haven't seen Terysa smile this much since she got that bling! It's now bling, bling! Great review RR
Quite a few comments about visibility in wet conditions. There is a multitude of automotive products to treat windshields which ensures perfectly clear glass in the most severe conditions. Not an issue...without wipers. Speaking from a Canadian perspective, that galley was made for bacon! :-) Direct factory post-purchase involvement is a HUGE advantage. Also, there is another couple with a TH-cam channel (Sailing Uma) who converted the engine power to electric. I was impressed with the execution. Less weight with almost no maintenance. Fuel cells converted to other storage uses, etc.
Dream boat 1600. Best bang for the buck and most realistic 1260, my choice anyway. Am ready for y'all to get back at it, what ever you decide. Great vid.,
At 1:20 the side decks look wide but what is hard to tell in the image is how much room there actually is. Half the deck is taken up with sheets and cleats. The handrail is all the way over on the coach roof. The standing rigging forces you to duck under.... in actuality, they aren't any wider than most.
Wow Wow & more WOW. Thankyou so much for this very fantastic eye opening experience on the Seawind 1260. I found it very useful to see how spacious the boat is. I can’t believe how the windows give such practical observation of where you are going. They are exceptional quality glass. Built to last. Plus floods the interior with ambient natural light not water. Tranquility to set a relaxing mood. The interior is superior minimalist design. Quality not quantity. Perfection. Less distraction to keep you focused on the experience of your surroundings. I just love this boat & Seawind plus you guys. Happy to see you both having a fun sail on the 1260 & the brilliant crew. 🏄♀️🏄♀️🏄♀️
You're right Nick, this is a lovely yacht. I predict a Seawind 1400 Ruby Rose edition. It'll fit nicely between 1260 and 1600. Or a Balance in the neighborhood of 45'. Can't wait to see what you two will be sailing in the near future.
I always thought that Seawind cats were good. Your videos made me realize just how good they really are. Really like the company and their customer support as well. Im a convert!
Looking forward to watching more Seawind adventures with the two of you. Aussie Aussie Aussie. Was there really any other choice. As the Seawind like anything Australian is built around the BBQ and outdoor entertaining area.
Decks may be wide, but I had to do some version of a pirouette to get past the standing rigging while not trodding (cue Spinal Tap) on the lines. Thus, I found going forward very unpleasant at anchor. I can only imagine how it would be in rough weather. Otherwise, a very nice small cat. I liked the 1600 much, much more (although I kept bonking my head going down the steps into the hulls). Thank you for the test sail/review!!
Nice sea trials of the Seawind 1260, lovely craft! Can't wait to get back to the regular episodes guys, and to see the new CAT! Fair winds and following seas Ruby Rose!
my fav boat reviewed by my fav reviewers 2 knots with 3 knots of wind that is impressive if this is the boat you two chose i would suggest removing the aft single berth placing a bulkhead with door to engine room and making this space a pantry / workshop
LOve the Seawind as you obviously both do!! However the engine noise seemed way up there when you motored through the rain. Nick you should get yourself a db meter and give us viewers an indication of the noise levels both in the cockpit and especially the aft cabins. Love your vids, always looking forward to the next one.
They seem to have some pretty sensible ideas and turn out a great looking boat. We were recently in crap conditions motoring flat out at 3 knots, into the wind and waves, bucking like mad, and the seawind near us hoisted sails and set off 45% to the wind at a disgusting 14 knots! Maybe my AIS was exaggerating.
Another fantastic vid and what better way to test sail (and have your brekky cooked) by none other than the head of the company. You've pretty much sold us on the Seawinds, doing a charter on an 1160 around the Whitsundays later in the year which will probably seal the deal for us.
Don’t be mad guys but I’m leaning toward a 44’ power catamaran. The cost and replacement cycle of the sails, wear and tear of all the sailing gear and work to maintain it, all of the worry and stress of wind, wind direction, strength and sailing well along with the added time to reach all destinations when tacking is necessary seems to push me toward a power vessel as being a more logical choice.
Sorry, I need to go through this video one more time. It just needs to be done. U2 have done a fabulous job on these videos and I am so stoked to continue to watch them for the third time. Thank you. #OfTheEpic
Every test sail I have ever done from a boat show always seems to be in light air. Too bad..at least you got to experience the rain, but a 15 to 20 kn breeze would have been handy.
It ALWAYS works when it sticks to KISS (keep it stupid simple)!!! Congratulations to the builder and thank you to repeat in your video that boats doesn’t need to be sophisticated to be good!
Loved the review. Been a fan of Seawind since I saw the Sailing Doodles episodes when they toured the factory. A great price/value combination and a company that deals directly with owners. I'll be very surprised if your next episode doesn't reveal that Seawind is the company your are collaborating with on Ruby Rose II. Good luck.
For a perfect test sail one should charter the candidate and "rent" enough water bottles to simulate the weight she will be loaded cruising....and have some wind
Great video! How do you think the visibility from the helm would be in poor conditions at night? Would you be able to see lights/ ships in the distance though the windows?
Another great video. I love a lot about the Seawind but still have a few concerns with it, mostly safety & functionality. Could you offer your opinion on these ? 1) Forward visibility. I still think the view forward through the salon and then through a steeply raked forward windscreen is less than ideal. People walking in front of the helmsman, light pollution from the salon, and the omission of wipers seem to make navigation in sporty "British" weather to be less than ideal, especially at night. I have seen opening windscreens with top-mounted wipers. Would you see this as necessary? Would you prefer the elevated bulkhead style helm, like the 1600, if given a choice? 2) Fore-deck access. There are some similarities between Seawind and Maine Cat. They both look like a seriously fun boat to take on a journey. They are both lighter weight, higher-performance catamarans with a simpler approach to fit-out. One concerning design aspect that I believe they share is the reverse shear of the coach roof transition from side deck to fore deck. I understand that this sloping deck is dictated by interior design and volume but it seems like a dangerous area for traction and safe movement in poor conditions. While under way on your return trip in the rain, did you venture out to the fore deck? Are you able to validate or discredit my thought on this? It has always looked slippery and possibly dangerous to me. Once again, great job and looking forward to hearing about the Ruby-2. Cheers
We have owned our 1260 and crossed from Aus to New Caledonia, plus cruising the Aus coast. The non slip deck finish is very safe to walk on, in 3-5m swells I have walked to front without ever slipping. View through saloon is great, never had an issue, but at night light pollution could be considered so light generating sources are off, as would any boat
I have a 1260 and frankly the helming setup is one of my favorite features of the design. One aspect that does not get discussed enough is that you can also lean over to your left and see around the ourside of the cockpit - or better still sit up on the side and get a clear view as well. The nice thing is that if the weather is bad - you can stay behind the wheel - fully covered and with dual helm's move from one side to the other without leaving the safety of the cockpit.
The galley placement made this boat has the best layout. It opened up the living area and gave functionality to the galley area. Other cats would have used that space for storage or almost useless sitting area.
I look forward to the sit down discussion of your choice and the modifications you plan to make, surprised at the 5000 lb load capacity of the 1260 - the larger version should be perfect.
2 questions that should have been asked, are the bulkheads glassed to the hull or glued and will they be releasing a model between the two at around 45 feet with galley up?
A lot to like . . especially the involvement of the builders. BUT, I can't agree on some of the major aspects of this boat, primarily the use of dual helms which creates unnecessary complication and a waste of space . . . not to mention the problem of which 'helm' will get the electronics and sail controls. Also the location of either helm actually affords very poor views forward trying to see through the windows but being blocked by the structure between the windows. Further, your view will be additionally much more limited in any any amount of sea since the pitching boat will further limit the view through those 'windows'. Finally, those helm stations are only partially protected which was fine on the day of your 'tour' but would be very much exposed in any wind with an aft component which would blow rain & spray all over the helmsman. For a much better arrangement (in my biased opinion) check out a Maine Cat 41!
I really like these 1260s they just seem to be the perfect catamaran for folks who want to sail and not have a dock queen condo that just flounders about.
It is definitely a nice boat, but I just can't get over the lines on the deck, especially near the shrouds. Watch 0:35 closely as the guy in the pink shorts travels the deck, kicking into the lines and ducking the shrouds. Now imagine one of those lines running under his feet in heavy seas.
Question: With helms station on the same level as cockpit and salon...... do you find this to be a great advantage or a minor advantage or? What I am thinking is that many helms stations on catamarans are "high up" and must mean a lot of "up-down-up-down-up-down" during the day while the Seawind 1260s helm stations are on the same level as everything else........ so this must be great while sailing and maybe especially on watch in crappy weather or?
I think it may be a case of user preference. Higher helm = better visibility and not having to look through the salon but the downside would be more up and down and more chances of falls/injury during rough sea. This one looks about as protected a helm position as physically possible on a boat this size.
You guy's are doing a top notch job of reviewing catamarans!!!!!! Any plans to return to sailing a boat again? That Han Solo wit is sorely missed. Not to mention mama bear slapping you back in line!!!!! Lol
Hydraulic helms give no feedback, with the mechanical ones you feel how the rudder works, so you have a feeling of how the sails are set, if are balanced or the rudder has to work hard to keep the wanted course. So it is not only more enjoyable when you are at the helm, but also useful when you set the autopilot as you have a feeling about the load you put on it. If you have to fight with the helm to keep the course also the autopilot will have to do the same.
Will you guys be going to see the lightwave 4 grande? I know you've already decided what you are getting but I think that is the best 45 footer you can buy. Seawind is love and best in its class if you ask me but 41 foot and 45 foot makes a big difference. I hope you will do a review of the lightwave. wishing you great adventures to come with your new cat.
I live in Annapolis. I was told by an Old Waterman that boats 41 and 42 feet long were built for the water conditions of the Chesapeake Bay. This was for safety and ride. Just in formation that might be useful.
It’s always a shame when a test sail becomes a test motor. Fortunately for me I have sailed the 1260 with some wind and did better than half the apparent wind speed. I have already been shopping for full enclosures for that cockpit. Maybe you can get the factory to offer one and also add a couple of shelf’s one on each side of the master bed :)).
Have watched this video half a dozen times and have yet see the music credits and i very much would like to know the name of the music playing pretty much throughout the video
Light wind on a test sail. That is pretty much how it goes every time doesn't it. There could be a hurricane off shore and the minute you want to test sail, its dead air.
Is the idea to go sailing in the "Storm Season", just some 'boyish bravado'? Light airs capability when the 'doldrums' present with balmy sunny days and peaceful nights swinging on a hook in tropical paradise, season changes just head for the other side of the equator, especially in the Western Pacific (put the "date line in the middle of your map, and the Coral Sea gives you Australia, New Zealand, New Caledonia, Fiji, Samoa and more - or work north through Vanuatu, Solomon Islands, Papua New Guinea, then head north for the Northern "winter" season for The Philippines, Taiwan, Japan to return south for the southern sailing (doldrum) season... I doubt a live aboard cruiser will complete that region in 15 years of living & learning...
5500 lbs of gear on top of fuel and water sounds like an a lot to me. N & T, what do you figure you need for your far off the beaten path extended voyages? Perhaps you eat into that with extra solar, bikes, and scuba gear/compressor. But if you skip the genny and go lithium, would it work?
Nick did ask about loading on top of fuel and water. But it was unclear if Seawind’s response of 2500 kg included fuel and water or not. It may be 2500 kg of gear, fuel, and water combined.
@@kimyoung230 Full water tanks on the 1260 carry over 1500 lbs of water. Depending on your water usage, comfort with severe cutbacks if the water maker goes out during a long passage, and desire for performance, you can certainly keep them much less than full. I knew one 1160 owner who always kept his tanks at 25% unless he was on a long passage. 25% of 185 gallons is still 46 gallons to use and that saves you > 1000 lbs.
unlike the Bali, with the door down you still have outdoor cockpit and indoor saloon. Bali really only has indoor with a wall that lifts. My recollection anyway
Love your channel but I am really confused how much you like this boat. It seems a contradiction to me that you have spent a lot of time critiquing cats that don't have flush hatches as tripping hazards and those that don't have handrails along the length of the cabin or that have the rails too far back to be practical for T. Yet this cat has its lines running widely along the gangway - surely serving as both a tripping hazard and preventing T from being able to use the handrails? Really?
A person likes what they like.. I think exterior is old design looking, and light weight for a live aboard doesn't sound good. Again performance for a live aboard? but simple is good, easy to fix in all locations. I do really like the interior.
Not sure about the helm position... looking through glass and glass. Catamarans being a greenhouse you would want to add curtains to keep it cool. How do you look through a curtain??? other than that looks like a nice boat.
Very clever of Seawind. They sold you a cardigan and a plate of bacon and eggs that just happen to have a boat come with them as part of the deal. Seriously like the cutter rig and I think I'd go for a furling main. I take a 3xlarge cardigan so does that mean I'd get the 1600 thrown in on the deal? I think the time for procrastination is over so buy the bloody thing as no matter what you do buy you'll still go to your graves wondering about all the what ifs in life.
The CEO cooked you breakfast, that’s not something you see everyday, but that’s in line with all my research I’ve done in Seawind. From the very beginning (when we rocked up at the Sydney boat show with a huge dream and zero clue about anything) they treated us seriously, took the time to explain things, and now, because of that, and the fact that all the research I do points to Seawind being great, reliable boats, a used 1160 will be our goal in 2-3 years (need to save more). Now if in that time any 1260s show up on the used market I’d be thrilled, but I wouldn’t expect it, these are boats that people seem to keep for a long while because they’re just that good.
Spent around 25 days chartering a seawind 1160, 3 and 4 cabin version. Easy to sail, even though the boat was detuned for chartering I did manage 10 knots plus on a reach. Id prefer the 3 cabin version as it offers a much better bathroom. The trifold doors are amazing. The galley down works great, having the window over the cooker gets rid of the steam and smells easily. Only downside was the cockpit fridge could be better insulated.
I love the 1260, but my biggest concern is visibility at night. Seems like if there's *any* lights on inside, you aren't going to be able to see anything but reflections thru those windows. Any Seawind owners (or Ruby Rose) who can verify/dispute that?
i have enjoyed you interviewing Leopard and Seawind personnel but i think you'd do well to invest in and use multiple WIRELESS microphones during your interviews. I noticed a bit of background noise in both interviews that cut down on the intelligibility of the individual speakers, particularly those furthest from existing microphones or those closer to outside sources of outdoor noise. I don't watch every video but INTERESTING journey you face going from mono hull to multi-hull. My only question is Did you ever consider a fully electric boat or even TRIMARANS?
When you compare the CEO of Seawind, to the Vice president of Leopard, Lizard or Lagoon, the last test, Seawind comes across as totally credible... When he said, "we would rather personally deal with warranty, and we don't like claims coming in", He really meant it. There was no sales pitch. Just decent people behind the cat... I respect that approach...
Sailing Yacht Ruby Rose ... I didn’t jump on the Leopard band wagon even though it was the next video. Reason being... performance wasn’t there and after following you guys for the past two years... I know Nick won’t compromise on that. So, to sum it up, (unless Balance is going to make you guys a sub 50 ft Cat) my money is on the Seawind. For Nick, it has the performance. For Terys, it have the ventilation. Once you talk them into making you one with Galley up, you’ll have plenty of storage for your Pacific adventure. Feel free to send me a beanie when you let everyone know I’m right! Cheers!
@@judsonvanmeter1091 The new Balance 442 is a possible candidate i think, no need to make a one off just for SYRR, and has galley up and even dagger boards, the problem is that it will cost quite a bit more then the 1260, its base price is 700K, fitted with all the extras to make it ready for living aboard, long ocean passages, probably other 100-200K are needed. I don't know how the pockets of SYRR are deep and also how they are good at obtaining a special price in change of visibility, but the boat production is already planned. Other way it would had been impossible, you need much larger cats to justify the construction of a single cat, the project and the tooling to produce it would make it extremely expensive. Even with semi custom and tailored on the customer's needs yachts you have to start from existing hulls and even so not everything can be changed unless we are talking of boats in the several millions range of price.
Excellent! Very enjoyable video to watch. That area is such a nice place to be out on the water. Is this a good size for one or two to sail extended distances? Happy Trails
I've heard you (and several other experienced sailors) say that you're not fans of an Ipad for navigation.. why is that? Wouldn't anyone want the more minimalist all-in-one comprehensive user interface rather than multiple hardware with physical buttons likely to bail at some point..? (Rookie question)
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Aha! I had a pretty good sense this is the one. It might be the one for me too should I ever decide to sell my 50' Riva and sail instead of motor. Of all the yachts you reviewed, this is the one I liked the most because of the attention to details, and Seawind's flexibility in regards to customization without overloading the costs.
We are falling in love with the 1260 and this channel as well. For those of us that are looking for both the technical and livable aspects of each catamaran, you have been a valuable resource.
You have our gratitude and we are subscribing.
Ohhhh I think we saw the moment y'all decide to get a Seawind! 💜💚💜💚💜💚💜💚
I smell the catamaran winner!!!
I realy like the personal attention from Seawind ! It looks like they realy care and want their clients to be happy with the choise of Seawind ! Respect for that ! Cheers .
And he cooks also.. Bacon, eggs & boats ~
Service from the factory has been fantastic for us (we bought our 1160 Lite 3 years ago.) It is really great to be on a first-name basis with the managment team.
Another great advantage of the boss being directly involved in warranty claims is that it should speed up rectification of production problems and also accelerate the uptake of improvements suggested by owners, versus collating problems and ideas from multiple dealers who may only hear of a problem or idea once and disregard it.
We met Richard when we were cruising the Queensland coast over 30 years ago. He was on board one of his Seawinds, getting to sail it in real cruising conditions, looking for ways to change and improve them for the better. The Seawinds have adapted and changed over the years and kept up with all the best innovations. (Catherine ex Catchcry)
This is like a 20 minute commercial for seawind. Good video.
I told you....this is the boat, this is the one! I haven't seen Terysa smile this much since she got that bling! It's now bling, bling! Great review RR
Coffee, bacon and a beautiful boat...can it get any better? It’s my pick. Simple yet smart in so many ways.
Quite a few comments about visibility in wet conditions. There is a multitude of automotive products to treat windshields which ensures perfectly clear glass in the most severe conditions. Not an issue...without wipers. Speaking from a Canadian perspective, that galley was made for bacon! :-) Direct factory post-purchase involvement is a HUGE advantage. Also, there is another couple with a TH-cam channel (Sailing Uma) who converted the engine power to electric. I was impressed with the execution. Less weight with almost no maintenance. Fuel cells converted to other storage uses, etc.
If it's that bad then you can't see out anyways. It's no different than night time. You just use the radar
Dream boat 1600. Best bang for the buck and most realistic 1260, my choice anyway. Am ready for y'all to get back at it, what ever you decide. Great vid.,
At 1:20 the side decks look wide but what is hard to tell in the image is how much room there actually is. Half the deck is taken up with sheets and cleats. The handrail is all the way over on the coach roof. The standing rigging forces you to duck under.... in actuality, they aren't any wider than most.
Wow Wow & more WOW.
Thankyou so much for this very fantastic eye opening experience on the Seawind 1260.
I found it very useful to see how spacious the boat is.
I can’t believe how the windows give such practical observation of where you are going. They are exceptional quality glass. Built to last. Plus floods the interior with ambient natural light not water. Tranquility to set a relaxing mood.
The interior is superior minimalist design.
Quality not quantity. Perfection. Less distraction to keep you focused on the experience of your surroundings.
I just love this boat & Seawind plus you guys.
Happy to see you both having a fun sail on the 1260 & the brilliant crew. 🏄♀️🏄♀️🏄♀️
You're right Nick, this is a lovely yacht. I predict a Seawind 1400 Ruby Rose edition. It'll fit nicely between 1260 and 1600. Or a Balance in the neighborhood of 45'. Can't wait to see what you two will be sailing in the near future.
Minimalism and simplicity apply
to everything in life. Great video.
Greetings from Switzerland.
No plywood! Wow! That's a great longterm solution to the rot issue. Bacon the way to Nick heart! Cheers Warren
Always bacon my friend
@@sailingrubyrose bacon is the gateway meat to backsliding vegans
Ya I got that "No plywood " also. makes for a better build and less lamentation...
@@waynefederico9396 Delamentation ?
@@capnrichard4967 sry but I worked for Boston whaler Laminating was lots of work an time...Thx Bud..
I always thought that Seawind cats were good. Your videos made me realize just how good they really are. Really like the company and their customer support as well. Im a convert!
Looking forward to watching more Seawind adventures with the two of you.
Aussie Aussie Aussie.
Was there really any other choice. As the Seawind like anything Australian is built around the BBQ and outdoor entertaining area.
Decks may be wide, but I had to do some version of a pirouette to get past the standing rigging while not trodding (cue Spinal Tap) on the lines. Thus, I found going forward very unpleasant at anchor. I can only imagine how it would be in rough weather. Otherwise, a very nice small cat. I liked the 1600 much, much more (although I kept bonking my head going down the steps into the hulls). Thank you for the test sail/review!!
So exciting that you guys were on my home waters of the South River just outside Annapolis. Cheers!
Very interested in hearing about that reefing system at 3:45 and 7:16 - blocks on the sails! Wow
Nice sea trials of the Seawind 1260, lovely craft! Can't wait to get back to the regular episodes guys, and to see the new CAT! Fair winds and following seas Ruby Rose!
my fav boat reviewed by my fav reviewers 2 knots with 3 knots of wind that is impressive if this is the boat you two chose i would suggest removing the aft single berth placing a bulkhead with door to engine room and making this space a pantry / workshop
Great use for this space...
Ok, this could be your next boat, the Seawind 1260! Amazing boat with incredible visibility! Great video and thank you!
Very nice boat. A perfect one for Billy, Sierra and Jetty.
Love their videos. Jetty their dog
is great.
I’m definitely looking forward to seeing the Seawind 1400!
LOve the Seawind as you obviously both do!! However the engine noise seemed way up there when you motored through the rain. Nick you should get yourself a db meter and give us viewers an indication of the noise levels both in the cockpit and especially the aft cabins. Love your vids, always looking forward to the next one.
Epic ! nice rope throw at the end LOL. Cheers !!
They seem to have some pretty sensible ideas and turn out a great looking boat. We were recently in crap conditions motoring flat out at 3 knots, into the wind and waves, bucking like mad, and the seawind near us hoisted sails and set off 45% to the wind at a disgusting 14 knots! Maybe my AIS was exaggerating.
Another fantastic vid and what better way to test sail (and have your brekky cooked) by none other than the head of the company. You've pretty much sold us on the Seawinds, doing a charter on an 1160 around the Whitsundays later in the year which will probably seal the deal for us.
Sea winds are excellent boats, and the company is awesome. I hope you choose a 1260. I’m looking at either the 1260 or the 1160 lite.
Don’t be mad guys but I’m leaning toward a 44’ power catamaran. The cost and replacement cycle of the sails, wear and tear of all the sailing gear and work to maintain it, all of the worry and stress of wind, wind direction, strength and sailing well along with the added time to reach all destinations when tacking is necessary seems to push me toward a power vessel as being a more logical choice.
Sorry, I need to go through this video one more time. It just needs to be done. U2 have done a fabulous job on these videos and I am so stoked to continue to watch them for the third time. Thank you. #OfTheEpic
Hmmm. They like the boat...... Seawind factory is in Thailand I believe....... Nick and Terysa spent some time in Thailand recently. Coincidence?
Vietnam
I think this is the one they are going to get. Excellent choice
The president of the company cooked breakfast for them, is there really any question at this point?
Миша Нехорошев I believe they went to Vietnam after Thailand.
Actually the Seawind factory is in Vietnam
Such a great boat for the money. I have always loved the 1260. Good luck on your new boat decision. Which ever brand that might be. (snicker, snicker)
A beast! Can't imagine the narrow French locks in this beauty.
Every test sail I have ever done from a boat show always seems to be in light air. Too bad..at least you got to experience the rain, but a 15 to 20 kn breeze would have been handy.
It would have been amazing to have a good breeze and see what she could do! Alas, we can't control the weather 😊
@@sailingrubyrose . Therisa could have. You just never asked her
Honor you weather witch.
It ALWAYS works when it sticks to KISS (keep it stupid simple)!!! Congratulations to the builder and thank you to repeat in your video that boats doesn’t need to be sophisticated to be good!
cheers mate. simple is always best
yep!
I am hoping this is the boat you get! Solid, fast & comfortable
Loved the review. Been a fan of Seawind since I saw the Sailing Doodles episodes when they toured the factory. A great price/value combination and a company that deals directly with owners. I'll be very surprised if your next episode doesn't reveal that Seawind is the company your are collaborating with on Ruby Rose II. Good luck.
You were right :)
For a perfect test sail one should charter the candidate and "rent" enough water bottles to simulate the weight she will be loaded cruising....and have some wind
So which size of Seawind is to RR line going to be? That was a great test sail + bacon!
Great video! How do you think the visibility from the helm would be in poor conditions at night? Would you be able to see lights/ ships in the distance though the windows?
absolutely mate.
Can verify that first hand
I think that they will enjoy working with Seawind and their new boat.
Another great video. I love a lot about the Seawind but still have a few concerns with it, mostly safety & functionality. Could you offer your opinion on these ?
1) Forward visibility. I still think the view forward through the salon and then through a steeply raked forward windscreen is less than ideal. People walking in front of the helmsman, light pollution from the salon, and the omission of wipers seem to make navigation in sporty "British" weather to be less than ideal, especially at night. I have seen opening windscreens with top-mounted wipers. Would you see this as necessary? Would you prefer the elevated bulkhead style helm, like the 1600, if given a choice?
2) Fore-deck access. There are some similarities between Seawind and Maine Cat. They both look like a seriously fun boat to take on a journey. They are both lighter weight, higher-performance catamarans with a simpler approach to fit-out. One concerning design aspect that I believe they share is the reverse shear of the coach roof transition from side deck to fore deck. I understand that this sloping deck is dictated by interior design and volume but it seems like a dangerous area for traction and safe movement in poor conditions. While under way on your return trip in the rain, did you venture out to the fore deck? Are you able to validate or discredit my thought on this? It has always looked slippery and possibly dangerous to me.
Once again, great job and looking forward to hearing about the Ruby-2.
Cheers
We have owned our 1260 and crossed from Aus to New Caledonia, plus cruising the Aus coast. The non slip deck finish is very safe to walk on, in 3-5m swells I have walked to front without ever slipping. View through saloon is great, never had an issue, but at night light pollution could be considered so light generating sources are off, as would any boat
I have a 1260 and frankly the helming setup is one of my favorite features of the design. One aspect that does not get discussed enough is that you can also lean over to your left and see around the ourside of the cockpit - or better still sit up on the side and get a clear view as well. The nice thing is that if the weather is bad - you can stay behind the wheel - fully covered and with dual helm's move from one side to the other without leaving the safety of the cockpit.
For previous monohull sailors this sidedeck worry is a non-issue.
Oh Maryland, my Maryland! If you don't like the weather, wait a couple hours and it will change.
yep, we found that out!
How did you find the berths? Were they comfortable?
The galley placement made this boat has the best layout. It opened up the living area and gave functionality to the galley area. Other cats would have used that space for storage or almost useless sitting area.
We also really love the galley down- I think in smaller catamarans, galley down is an excellent choice.
I look forward to the sit down discussion of your choice and the modifications you plan to make, surprised at the 5000 lb load capacity of the 1260 - the larger version should be perfect.
Nicely done. Thank you for this.
2 questions that should have been asked, are the bulkheads glassed to the hull or glued and will they be releasing a model between the two at around 45 feet with galley up?
A lot to like . . especially the involvement of the builders. BUT, I can't agree on some of the major aspects of this boat, primarily the use of dual helms which creates unnecessary complication and a waste of space . . . not to mention the problem of which 'helm' will get the electronics and sail controls. Also the location of either helm actually affords very poor views forward trying to see through the windows but being blocked by the structure between the windows. Further, your view will be additionally much more limited in any any amount of sea since the pitching boat will further limit the view through those 'windows'. Finally, those helm stations are only partially protected which was fine on the day of your 'tour' but would be very much exposed in any wind with an aft component which would blow rain & spray all over the helmsman. For a much better arrangement (in my biased opinion) check out a Maine Cat 41!
the 1260 is an awesome boat, and yes they can sail
Is there a need for windshield wipers, looks like it would be?
I think you have spilled the beans Nick and Teresa. ;)
I really like these 1260s they just seem to be the perfect catamaran for folks who want to sail and not have a dock queen condo that just flounders about.
Exactly that mate. Proper sailors boats
@@sailingrubyrose too little
@@sailingrubyrose blue water capabilities in big brother!!!!
@@sailingrubyrose or in mid size new model.....
Maurizio Canale to little for what?
It is definitely a nice boat, but I just can't get over the lines on the deck, especially near the shrouds. Watch 0:35 closely as the guy in the pink shorts travels the deck, kicking into the lines and ducking the shrouds. Now imagine one of those lines running under his feet in heavy seas.
Do you always want to "run around the side decks" in heavy seas? Surely you would have foreseen the heavier weather and reefed earlier?
Question: With helms station on the same level as cockpit and salon...... do you find this to be a great advantage or a minor advantage or?
What I am thinking is that many helms stations on catamarans are "high up" and must mean a lot of "up-down-up-down-up-down" during the day while the Seawind 1260s helm stations are on the same level as everything else........ so this must be great while sailing and maybe especially on watch in crappy weather or?
I think it may be a case of user preference. Higher helm = better visibility and not having to look through the salon but the downside would be more up and down and more chances of falls/injury during rough sea. This one looks about as protected a helm position as physically possible on a boat this size.
You guy's are doing a top notch job of reviewing catamarans!!!!!! Any plans to return to sailing a boat again? That Han Solo wit is sorely missed. Not to mention mama bear slapping you back in line!!!!! Lol
I am back on the boat in 48 hours my friend, and cannot wait
Yep my money is this boat! I wonder what cool mods and kit you will come up with.
How big are the fuel tanks? Range?
Love your new Catamaran 😉
Great episode, would have loved to see her in a bit of wind 👍
the new boat
Just wondering what made a difference in the feel of the steering? Anyway, great view...
Hydraulic linkage vs mechanical linkage in the 1260
Hydraulic helms give no feedback, with the mechanical ones you feel how the rudder works, so you have a feeling of how the sails are set, if are balanced or the rudder has to work hard to keep the wanted course. So it is not only more enjoyable when you are at the helm, but also useful when you set the autopilot as you have a feeling about the load you put on it. If you have to fight with the helm to keep the course also the autopilot will have to do the same.
hallo from Indonesia... love your video.. inspiring mereka alot
Thanks for the Reviews wish they would've had the 1190 sport I am seriously considering that one
Will you guys be going to see the lightwave 4 grande? I know you've already decided what you are getting but I think that is the best 45 footer you can buy. Seawind is love and best in its class if you ask me but 41 foot and 45 foot makes a big difference. I hope you will do a review of the lightwave. wishing you great adventures to come with your new cat.
Speed and estmated range on one 29 hp engine?
I live in Annapolis. I was told by an Old Waterman that boats 41 and 42 feet long were built for the water conditions of the Chesapeake Bay. This was for safety and ride. Just in formation that might be useful.
We LOVED visiting Annapolis! Made a video about it actually. Great city
It’s always a shame when a test sail becomes a test motor. Fortunately for me I have sailed the 1260 with some wind and did better than half the apparent wind speed. I have already been shopping for full enclosures for that cockpit. Maybe you can get the factory to offer one and also add a couple of shelf’s one on each side of the master bed :)).
Have watched this video half a dozen times and have yet see the music credits and i very much would like to know the name of the music playing pretty much throughout the video
So looking through the comments should we take notice of the ones that you have “liked” ????
Nope. They like a lot of the ones that say, "This is the one, obviously," no matter which boat is being commented on. LOL
It looks like you cannot read the chart plotter without the window open ,?
You can indeed. It also swivels to be visible from the saloon
In your film you could not read it ,
And cannot use it , ie touchscreen ,
Is she built with a balsa or foam core?
Great video though... love em’ all!!,
Foam core mate
it's February, do you have a new Catamaran?
I wish the cabin top were larger and the lines run inside the cabin perimeter instead of on deck, otherwise a lovely boat.
Light wind on a test sail. That is pretty much how it goes every time doesn't it. There could be a hurricane off shore and the minute you want to test sail, its dead air.
Is the idea to go sailing in the "Storm Season", just some 'boyish bravado'? Light airs capability when the 'doldrums' present with balmy sunny days and peaceful nights swinging on a hook in tropical paradise, season changes just head for the other side of the equator, especially in the Western Pacific (put the "date line in the middle of your map, and the Coral Sea gives you Australia, New Zealand, New Caledonia, Fiji, Samoa and more - or work north through Vanuatu, Solomon Islands, Papua New Guinea, then head north for the Northern "winter" season for The Philippines, Taiwan, Japan to return south for the southern sailing (doldrum) season... I doubt a live aboard cruiser will complete that region in 15 years of living & learning...
How does it stack up to a Balance 442?😉😉
5500 lbs of gear on top of fuel and water sounds like an a lot to me. N & T, what do you figure you need for your far off the beaten path extended voyages?
Perhaps you eat into that with extra solar, bikes, and scuba gear/compressor. But if you skip the genny and go lithium, would it work?
Nick did ask about loading on top of fuel and water. But it was unclear if Seawind’s response of 2500 kg included fuel and water or not. It may be 2500 kg of gear, fuel, and water combined.
@@kimyoung230 It was on top of fuel and water.
Bogan Bob so if you have a watermaker, and perhaps don’t generally fill water tanks all the way, based on usage, then you can carry a bit more gear?
@@kimyoung230 Full water tanks on the 1260 carry over 1500 lbs of water. Depending on your water usage, comfort with severe cutbacks if the water maker goes out during a long passage, and desire for performance, you can certainly keep them much less than full. I knew one 1160 owner who always kept his tanks at 25% unless he was on a long passage. 25% of 185 gallons is still 46 gallons to use and that saves you > 1000 lbs.
Another excellent video!
unlike the Bali, with the door down you still have outdoor cockpit and indoor saloon. Bali really only has indoor with a wall that lifts. My recollection anyway
Indeed 😊
Why dont you review the Bali 5.4 with the full fore deck?
Love your channel but I am really confused how much you like this boat. It seems a contradiction to me that you have spent a lot of time critiquing cats that don't have flush hatches as tripping hazards and those that don't have handrails along the length of the cabin or that have the rails too far back to be practical for T. Yet this cat has its lines running widely along the gangway - surely serving as both a tripping hazard and preventing T from being able to use the handrails? Really?
Another couch sailor?
A person likes what they like.. I think exterior is old design looking, and light weight for a live aboard doesn't sound good. Again performance for a live aboard? but simple is good, easy to fix in all locations. I do really like the interior.
Not sure about the helm position... looking through glass and glass. Catamarans being a greenhouse you would want to add curtains to keep it cool. How do you look through a curtain??? other than that looks like a nice boat.
Yeah, I wonder about that too. Particularly at night if you’ve any nights on in the salon.
Very clever of Seawind. They sold you a cardigan and a plate of bacon and eggs that just happen to have a boat come with them as part of the deal.
Seriously like the cutter rig and I think I'd go for a furling main.
I take a 3xlarge cardigan so does that mean I'd get the 1600 thrown in on the deal?
I think the time for procrastination is over so buy the bloody thing as no matter what you do buy you'll still go to your graves wondering about all the what ifs in life.
The CEO cooked you breakfast, that’s not something you see everyday, but that’s in line with all my research I’ve done in Seawind. From the very beginning (when we rocked up at the Sydney boat show with a huge dream and zero clue about anything) they treated us seriously, took the time to explain things, and now, because of that, and the fact that all the research I do points to Seawind being great, reliable boats, a used 1160 will be our goal in 2-3 years (need to save more). Now if in that time any 1260s show up on the used market I’d be thrilled, but I wouldn’t expect it, these are boats that people seem to keep for a long while because they’re just that good.
Seems like he was pretty reasonable at it. If that is an example of his attention to detail, then the boats should be pretty special too.
Spent around 25 days chartering a seawind 1160, 3 and 4 cabin version.
Easy to sail, even though the boat was detuned for chartering I did manage 10 knots plus on a reach.
Id prefer the 3 cabin version as it offers a much better bathroom.
The trifold doors are amazing.
The galley down works great, having the window over the cooker gets rid of the steam and smells easily.
Only downside was the cockpit fridge could be better insulated.
How does it sail in the Norwegian sea 60N 30W?
These boats aren’t designed for high latitudes
Sailing Ruby Rose
Thats what I thought
so beautiful Norway ?
Shetland Viking festival ?
out if the question?
Very nice, very relaxing.😁
Here's your boat N&T. And mine. I'm in Okinawa. Gonna pick one up from Vietnam...
I love the 1260, but my biggest concern is visibility at night. Seems like if there's *any* lights on inside, you aren't going to be able to see anything but reflections thru those windows. Any Seawind owners (or Ruby Rose) who can verify/dispute that?
i have enjoyed you interviewing Leopard and Seawind personnel but i think you'd do well to invest in and use multiple WIRELESS microphones during your interviews. I noticed a bit of background noise in both interviews that cut down on the intelligibility of the individual speakers, particularly those furthest from existing microphones or those closer to outside sources of outdoor noise. I don't watch every video but INTERESTING journey you face going from mono hull to multi-hull. My only question is Did you ever consider a fully electric boat or even TRIMARANS?
When you compare the CEO of Seawind, to the Vice president of Leopard, Lizard or Lagoon, the last test, Seawind comes across as totally credible... When he said, "we would rather personally deal with warranty, and we don't like claims coming in", He really meant it. There was no sales pitch. Just decent people behind the cat... I respect that approach...
He’s a very genuine guy. We really warmed to him
So, is Ruby Rose II going to be a Seawind?
Haha, we had all the Leopard predictions when we put out the Leopard test sail 🤣🤣🤣
Sailing Yacht Ruby Rose ... I didn’t jump on the Leopard band wagon even though it was the next video.
Reason being... performance wasn’t there and after following you guys for the past two years... I know Nick won’t compromise on that.
So, to sum it up, (unless Balance is going to make you guys a sub 50 ft Cat) my money is on the Seawind.
For Nick, it has the performance. For Terys, it have the ventilation. Once you talk them into making you one with Galley up, you’ll have plenty of storage for your Pacific adventure.
Feel free to send me a beanie when you let everyone know I’m right!
Cheers!
@@judsonvanmeter1091 The new Balance 442 is a possible candidate i think, no need to make a one off just for SYRR, and has galley up and even dagger boards, the problem is that it will cost quite a bit more then the 1260, its base price is 700K, fitted with all the extras to make it ready for living aboard, long ocean passages, probably other 100-200K are needed. I don't know how the pockets of SYRR are deep and also how they are good at obtaining a special price in change of visibility, but the boat production is already planned. Other way it would had been impossible, you need much larger cats to justify the construction of a single cat, the project and the tooling to produce it would make it extremely expensive.
Even with semi custom and tailored on the customer's needs yachts you have to start from existing hulls and even so not everything can be changed unless we are talking of boats in the several millions range of price.
This is the boat I’m buying!
Good choice 😊
Excellent! Very enjoyable video to watch. That area is such a nice place to be out on the water. Is this a good size for one or two to sail extended distances? Happy Trails
always my best catamaran is seawind
I've heard you (and several other experienced sailors) say that you're not fans of an Ipad for navigation.. why is that?
Wouldn't anyone want the more minimalist all-in-one comprehensive user interface rather than multiple hardware with physical buttons likely to bail at some point..? (Rookie question)
It looks like a couple are falling in love with a cat!