Is Gareth Southgate still the right man for England going forward? | Extra Time | ESPN FC
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.ค. 2024
- On a new round of #FCExtraTime, Steve Nicol, Nedum Onuoha, Frank Leboeuf, Alejandro Moreno and Dan Thomas answer fans' questions sent in via Twitter.
0:00 Is Gareth Southgate still the right man for England going forward?
2:25 Why is England incapable of playing expansive football?
6:25 Jorginho being a defensive liability.
10:30 Is Bukayo Saka's confidence hurt going forward?
14:12 What fashion trend and food choice did Steve and Nedum enjoy most in the United States?
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I love watching Frank improving his English on the show. He's such a likeable bloke.
Frank is overly disregarding Jorginho,
He won the Champions league playing in two with Kante
Kids in men bodies these days love if someone is abusive or rude because they can't be in real life in work place
frank is easily the most entertaining pundit on ESPN, can listen to him all day
England’s lucky path to a Euros final:
- Easy group
- Easy bracket
- Played every game at Wembley except against Ukraine farmers
- Thomas Müller miss
- Paid UEFA
- Eriksen injury
- Robbed Denmark with bs pen
- Chiesa injury
And even with all that luck they still lost😂
Let’s laugh at Pengland😂😂
@@cr7productions955 wrong comment bud
@Ash Nakamura. I loved how after the Euro final when Frank was asked about England moving forward, he gave them encouragement but in a completely condescending manner🤣👍
@@cr7productions955 FAXX
That’s all Leboeuf can do…entertaining with his silliness, he keeps making himself ridiculous being absolutely bias and making determinations based on popularity not on technical objective facts. And by the way he acts like if being a professional player means knowing soccer better than a non professional one. WRONG!!! Sacchi had never been a professional player and he changed the way of playing soccer into what we’re now accustomed to watch. He was a mediocre professional player, casually lucky to be in a team with Zidane, Henry, Thuram (because nobody remembers that the France was completely rebuilt from the ashes of the failure for not qualifying at USA ‘94 WC, far away from being considered the favorite winners) capable to win a World Cup at home prepared purposely for them (as happened for England) and a Euro stolen at 95’ minute because that game couldn’t finish 1-0 for Italy. Arrogance is always unjustifiable even for people like Ronaldo and Mbappe, guess how much more unjustifiable for somebody like Leboeuf. Such anonymous player for his time with the luck of the loser. In the France national team of today a player like he used to be wouldn’t even be selected. Everybody can check on his career and see themselves how poor he was.
I will miss Frank, so refreshing that he can laugh at himself and not take himself as seriously as some others, and he's a world cup winner! Hope he's back in the future!
FRANK is a great human
him and ale seem to be the only one with a bit of sense and not afraid to pull any punches
Where is he going or doing?
@@mannytuzo back to France. He'll still be on the show but on video like Jules and gab often are
@@alexguerrier9363 Great to hear!
Frank just destroyed twitter and everyone in the TH-cam comments 😂
England’s lucky path to a Euros final:
- Easy group
- Easy bracket
- Played every game at Wembley except against Ukraine farmers
- Thomas Müller miss
- Paid UEFA
- Eriksen injury
- Robbed Denmark with bs pen
- Chiesa injury
And even with all that luck they still lost😂
Let’s laugh at Pengland😂😂
@@cr7productions955 😅😃😅Brother i Love your Truth.They basically gave them the Cup and they still Bottled it.And yesterday was my Birthday.Italy gave me a gift.Because it was Poetic to see them crying after that situation with the German Girl.
@@cr7productions955 how butthurt do you have to be to keep copy pasting this everywhere 🤣
Ehhh saying he is right because he played at a higher level is a weak comeback tbh
@@TheWefikus cry pengland fan, Italy owns your poverty country😂😂😂
Gotta understand Frank's from an era where turning legs into origami was principle. Jorginho's more of a hybrid aggressor in the midfield, more conservative, careful, the good bits of today's football. 20 years ago, would have been skidmarked easily.
Well beautifully put!
Everyone: talking about the euros final
Me: we’ll miss you Frank 🥺
I think they meant frank going back to france. But still on the show via video call like before.
He's only leaving the u.s
1-0 after 5 minutes, a better manager would never have let it get to penalties, especially with the squad England have.
Mancini is a better manager and he definitely wouldn’t let his team get to penalties 🥸
Stevie's right, there was more to come from the England team. Southgate didn't use his attacking options and didn't try to dominate games.
I agree with you as well Frank. People are too focused on statistics these days man. Statistics are only a part of the story
Yup, professional players should be the first to know that stats can’t tell the full story and mean nothing without context
Statistics don't lie
What Frank is saying is completely stupid
Statistics is used by coaches like Pep to help find how each players played jn a match because the game takes place in such a speed you can't figure that out.
Frank just took the abusive rude route and all kids in men bodies suddenly started liking him.
Plus players like Mason Mount which he rates high just has Statistics on his side,
So his fan girls should calm down and respect Jorginho
@@mchannel1365 Pep himself said that statistics aren’t as important as people make them out to be, there’s a reason that experts talk about “intangibles” when they know stats can’t describe something
@@mchannel1365 easy there tiger. I did not say stats lie nor did I say they weren’t important. Luke Ayling and Aaron Wan-Bissaka both had more tackles for last season than the other premier league defenders last season. In fact Ayling was one of the top players with the most passes as well. Now how many would say that they are better players and more deserving of the other defenders that went for England instead? Few would. Stats are just a part of the story. It doesn’t paint a full picture and that’s all I’m saying and agreeing with, with Frank here. I didn’t even mention anything about Jorginho in my comment.
Gareth Southgate hasn't got the tactical flexibility to adapt to in game situations against elite opponents. Gareth Southgate's strategy is one dimensional and that is to be overly defensive.
Hes also still a very young manager and has already been to a major semi amd a final hes got a long carreer ahead of him hes done an amazing job with england and hes made some mistakes in a final and im sure hes gonna learn from that and adapt his tactical game going forward
He was not a success at the Boro so just how did anybody ever think he was OK to manage England ?
@@AnthonyTobyEllenor-pi4jq The FA only hired Southgate after Sam Allardyce got sacked. Plus the FA didn't want to hire another foreigner after Fabio Capello.
@@natjd24 I take it you're one of those who think Ole will win a trophy at Manchester United when given time but will not give the same amount of time to a proper coach.
Frank was great on the show,
A real character but also very knowledgeable from the ex- player been there done that perspective!
We will miss you in person on the panel Frank, a legend a great pundit and just hilarious 💯
England’s lucky path to a Euros final:
- Easy group
- Easy bracket
- Played every game at Wembley except against Ukraine farmers
- Thomas Müller miss
- Paid UEFA
- Eriksen injury
- Robbed Denmark with bs pen
- Chiesa injury
And even with all that luck they still lost😂
Let’s laugh at Pengland😂😂
@@cr7productions955
Love it
Great rundown bud
England was the most boring and least imaginative team in the tournament. Southgate responsible for that.
Totally agree!
What is wrong with you people? Our first final in 50 years. End of story. Jesus like whatever halfwitted crowd-pandering geezer you would replace Southgate with would do better.
@@thelawenforcerhd9654 My friend, as an Italian, you have my support. Some supporters always have something to say (in Italy some are crapping on Italy's success because they can't say 'I told you so'). Southgate has responsibility for the final, but at the end of the day, reaching a final after 50 years is a sign of growth. He and the players (starting with those who missed the penalty) will be better for it in the future.
Frank pulled canavaro, I'm a world cup winner I don't have to answer to anyone. 🎤
Frank: “I’ll give you a statistic:
Me: 1 World Cup
You: 0”
Frank is overly disregarding Jorginho,
He won the Champions league playing in two with Kante
Kids these days love if someone is abusive or rude because they can't be in real life
Why does everyone keep saying Jorginho is a defensive midfielder… he’s not that! He’s a deep-lying playmaker (midfielder)… he’s almost like an offensive version of a sweeping. Just like Pirlo and Xabi Alonso! He’s job is not to be a fire blanket… and he’s not even bad at that! Jorginho does his job and then some! Mans class!
Like Sergio busquets
ferdinand hated him since he played his first 5 games with chelsea. Never saw him improving LOL. He's champions' league and european champion in 2 months and a half LOL. Been at the center of the project for club and national team Lmao KEKW
England’s lucky path to a Euros final:
- Easy group
- Easy bracket
- Played every game at Wembley except against Ukraine farmers
- Thomas Müller miss
- Paid UEFA
- Eriksen injury
- Robbed Denmark with bs pen
- Chiesa injury
And even with all that luck they still lost😂
Let’s laugh at Pengland😂😂
I wouldn’t say he is a deep lying playmaker he doesn’t create anything from deep, he’s good transitioning from The back four to the attackers though. He’s the ideal person to have with you in a double pivot. Reason why him and Kante are really good together in this case Jorginho and Veratti were really good together.
He is a defensive midfielder he plays as a 6 but he does operate as a deep lying playmaker. Deep lying playmaker is a role not a position his position is cdm
Frank made my day....hes so so funny. But u cant compare Desailly with Jorginho 😁😁
England’s lucky path to a Euros final:
- Easy group
- Easy bracket
- Played every game at Wembley except against Ukraine farmers
- Thomas Müller miss
- Paid UEFA
- Eriksen injury
- Robbed Denmark with bs pen
- Chiesa injury
And even with all that luck they still lost😂
Let’s laugh at Pengland😂😂
Comparing Desailly with Jorginho is like comparing Iniesta with Sergio Ramos.
@@Showtime-em5qf lmao
Jorginho isn’t even Italian. He’s Brazilian
Desailly played in midfield and as a central defender and was superior in both positions. 😆😆 That's why you can't compare!
If England can't win at home facing mostly easier teams till the final they don't deserve to win. Too defensive.
I too think Germany are an easy team to beat.
Absolute joy watching Frank with the boys and I hope the relationship continues.
England are Tottenham Hotspur of the national team!
Na.. At least spurs sometimes play attacking football... England are Everton 😂😂🤣
England’s lucky path to a Euros final:
- Easy group
- Easy bracket
- Played every game at Wembley except against Ukraine farmers
- Thomas Müller miss
- Paid UEFA
- Eriksen injury
- Robbed Denmark with bs pen
- Chiesa injury
And even with all that luck they still lost😂
Let’s laugh at Pengland😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣 why man
@@54dbruno attacking football? 😂😂😂😂
@Nikhil Vattathara I don't understand Southgate's takticks... You've got one of the worlds best strikers who can ping a pass like kdb... You don't ever set up the team to utilise his talents... Not taking jese in the squad seems a bit stupid as mount isn't creative or goal scoring... Why's he in the 10 🤣🤣😂😂
If winning a major tournament is the objective then Southgate needs to go.
Behave yourself!
@@richardgilbert213 he won’t win one with these defensive tactics.
@@tommyg421 1 final, 2 semi finals. It's a huge improvement on the embarrassment of the previous 20 odd years. Rio, Lampard and Gerrard couldn't even play together, Rooney could only score at friendlies. England had some decent players and bombed at every opportunity.
@@richardgilbert213 look at who they played in both tournaments, didn’t face competition in either. We won’t win playing those tactics against top 10 competition. We also have a golden age of attacking players, doesn’t look like it right?
@@richardgilbert213 would love for you to name the wingers or strikers or gk’s on those squads, we have never been this complete as a team.
Frank with the shots 🔥😂
England’s lucky path to a Euros final:
- Easy group
- Easy bracket
- Played every game at Wembley except against Ukraine farmers
- Thomas Müller miss
- Paid UEFA
- Eriksen injury
- Robbed Denmark with bs pen
- Chiesa injury
And even with all that luck they still lost😂
Let’s laugh at Pengland😂😂
Quick rush me to the hospital ii felt that for England fans
He has jealous cos Italians won and the fact that he and his 7 generations will always have to appreciate Italian cuisine
Cis his country's food is for Neanderthals who can eat with no taste.
You don't even know what I am saying here..cos Italians don't give a fcuk to social media ...its for Asians and Americans
Let's focus on the How instead of the What, you can't play parking the bus with the players England have, we need someone who can make them play true football and not waste this generation
Can anyone honestly place their hand on their heart and say England deserved to win this match or the Euros ? Terry Venebles and Bobby both deserved to World Cup and the Euros, they were completely unlucky and should of won both. There is one man responsible for all this and his name is Gareth ( defensive, conservative) Southgate. 100 percent !
Easy question and answer: No. Southgate seems like a good bloke but his lacking in tactical acumen. For all the hype and bluster from England at WC2018 and this Euros, the only team of good quality they beat was Germany (and at home too). Whenever they have faced strong opposition (Belgium, Croatia, Italy - even Denmark they needed to cheat to win the game), they have been exposed and beaten. Southgate even said in his post game comments that he took the lessons from WC2018 to this tournament which shows he has not improved or learnt from his mistakes at that tournament either. Against a world class manager like Mancini, there was never any real chance of it coming home.
Frank is great !! - what American food did you try Frank? Answer- I tried some Snails 😀😂😂😂
Why is frank leaving? He was a great asset to the show and great to listen to 👌
Yes!... if you never want to win anything. He's the exact right man for that.
I think you accidentally put an n in the world ever
He got us to our first final in over 55 years. Give him a break
@@lordofpots9947 Yeah, with an easy draw, playing a Germany that's currently in a transition period and not on top of their game and having home advantages minues one game in which they could sit back in their own backyard while other teams had travel across Europe.
Let's face it, the stars where aligned for England in nearly every scenerio to win this thing and they still bottled it a chance as easy as this won't come around again, at least not anytime soon.
@@charlinethom1624 Keep crying about it. The English players should have not missed their chances anyway. Sterling had good chances in front of goal, Mount was lost on the field so Kane had to play as the creative midfielder... Southgate can only do so much.
The penalties are all his though.
@@our_illumination949 Yeah, picking a 19 year old kid and two other young players who barley touched the ball to rescue you last minute via penalties when you parked the bus for like 85 minuets after your first goal and played with 36% ball position and like 2 shots on target is such brilliant tactics.
England had a chance to win this thing outright, they could've pushed for a second goal, but alas in true Southgate fashion they sit back and bottled it as usual. lol
The music cutting off Frank haha. Great stuff love the espn panel
“Did you have any enjoyable moments in the US” ... *long pause* GOT ME DEAD LMAOO
Lol nah that was just the delay
Southgate will never use that squad to its full potential, he'll stick with a min 8 defensive players on the field at all times. Southgate must stay! Here's to another 50 years of hurt 🎉
Southgate likes to analyse every detail .Im sure he will realise only playing defences cost us the trophy and will hopefully adjust this in World Cup in Qatar
Since he took over the team has improved in every way game after game ..
@@bigtony4829 watch the tactical analysis of the final and you'll understand why gs went to the back 5. There just wasn't a plan b unfortunately or it wasn't changed quick enough.
England having one of the best generations of all time and how can I tell my kids that players like Foden, Graelish, Sancho, Foden, Henderson, Chilwell, Rashford did not have a big role under Southgate. NO SOUTHGATE OUT!
If my grandmother had wheels, she would have been a bike - wise words from an italian
Italy won 🥇. Congratulations 🎉🎈🎊
Love ❤️ from US 😂🥰
Whos a clever girl then👏👏👏👏👏
Thx🇮🇹❤👢😘
@@Kev-england32 😂😂
Desailly was a monster. An elite world class midfielder
Frank is hilarious, he'll be missed 🥲
No, he relegated Middlesbrough, that's his level
No he didn't. I'm a Boro fan, and it was our finances that relegated us. Look at the team he had compared to his predecessor McClaren.
@@dickmonkey-king1271 cool story bro
@@yingyang1008 True story too.
The best Manager England never had came from Middlesbrough and that was Brian Clough, a tactical genius.
Brian would never have had the Players kneeling, he had too much pride, he also said what he thought and that's why the Bosses at the FA would not appoint him as England Manager, as I said, the best Manager that England never had !
@@yingyang1008 he's right actually a lot of players left the summer before 08/09 Young, Cattermole, Schwartzer that's pretty much the whole defence plus Alves which wasn't his buy Gibson pushed it through didn't fire
Did Southgate freeze during the second half?
Thomas Tuchel would not have allowed that to happen without making changes at an earlier point.
I think he had a meltdown . We had one hand on the cup. Then he blew it. I think he will resign before he gets sacked .
i agree 100 percent with frank. gonna miss you legend. a lovely french guy with french passion you gotta love the guy. charismatic
As an Italian I'm proud of my paesani, but Southgate is the most successful English manager since Alf Ramsey.
Congratulations from England👍 completely deserved. Hope the Italian fans are safe from some of the disgraceful fans representing our country. Apologies for their actions🙏
@@mh.1. You are an absolute gentleman amico mio 🇮🇹🤝🏴
I think it's a new era for both teams. 16 months and counting.See you at the world cup👍👍👍
@@jaiess540 Thank you my friend. I would love to see a rematch at the World Cup (a different result of course). Good luck at the nations league and the World Cup and forever from now.🙏✊
@@mh.1. you too. Take care👍
England France and Germany need a new coach.
and portugal
Germany have Flick, they'll be fine
and North Korea
Lol guys. I told my wife this morning. Im going to miss frank, and her response was: i know you will🤣🤣🤣🤣
The perfect guy will be Steven Gerrad, but he's still comfortable at Rangers and probably will manage Liverpool next.
He’s not leaving rangers yet he has still a lot to learn yet
He’s playing it smart. Not like Lampard. Playing it steady until he feels ready for that Liverpool call or England call 👍🏾
There’s a reason Gerrard is clear of Lampard as player and manager…..:..
@@user-xf5to6jh2c Manager sure. I wouldn’t consider him “clear” of lampard as a player though
I don’t think so. He needs to be more courageous with the squad he has. If you know you’re going to be conservative leave these attacking players home. Don’t waste rashford sancho and grealish home.
You can't sack him after what he's done. For me 2022 is his last chance to play offensive, proactive football. Otherwise out
England’s lucky path to a Euros final:
- Easy group
- Easy bracket
- Played every game at Wembley except against Ukraine farmers
- Thomas Müller miss
- Paid UEFA
- Eriksen injury
- Robbed Denmark with bs pen
- Chiesa injury
And even with all that luck they still lost😂
Let’s laugh at Pengland😂😂
@@cr7productions955 you ain't from Italy, are you?
So what's your team's excuse?
England at least made it to the finals.
@@dajag6846 and lost 😂
@@cr7productions955 your team didn't even make it. 😂😂😂
Frank is 100% right
Frank is overly disregarding Jorginho,
He won the Champions league playing in two with Kante
Kids these days love if someone is abusive or rude because they can't be in real life
Plus he said he is supporting England because he is French who hates Italy cos the difference in Food is sky and land.
You won't get that as you are probably someone writing not living in Europe.
@@mchannel1365 whether he supports England or not is irrelevant in this context. The question was is Jorginho underrated? His response was: he isn’t underrated as he’s good going forward but not great defensively. Personally, i agree with him 100% with frank.
Southgate has peaked. He doesn’t have the in-game management abilities of an elite manager. He’s taken this England squad as far as he can. If we want to push on and win the World Cup we need to replace him. Having said all that, he’s a brilliant ambassador for the England team and he’s a very decent man. In short, he’s perfect for the FA, so he won’t be replaced.
Brian Clough isn't available.
Its nice to see to Stevie smiling again. And Frank we will miss you in the studio.
6:46
That was savage 🔥
Ufff
😂
Brazil 1982 brings to mind, Monsieur Leboeuf....
Imagine the scrutiny Southgate would receive if they lost in ANY other round besides the FINAL🤦🏾 it’s really ridiculous how much his job is in question.
Give Jürgen Klopp a castle somewhere in England and ask him to take this job.
Is Gareth Southgate still the right man for England going forward?
No.
England have actually overachieved under Southgate.
Of course we have! Our fans are idiots. Southgate has had incredible success. He is easily our second most successful manager ever and still people want rid of him! I tell you, when Southgate goes, so does the team, all the way back to the dark old days.
@@dickmonkey-king1271 if England face Belgium or France in Round 16, they already out
@@dannyhau7548 Yet everyone is applauding Italy masterclass despite them only managing 1-1 draw with an apparently rubbish England?
@@dannyhau7548 You don't know that! People said that about Germany. Didn't the Swiss beat France? So why not us? And if we do go out to a better team then so be it. Is Southgate now a bad manager if he does anything less than win every trophy?
England had the easiest path to take the Euros and they squandered it .They'll never come close like that again to win any major tournament .Italy wanted it more and they deserved it .
@The Ugly Irish agreed, people just don't like England in general
@The Ugly Irish 😂what about Germany they are rich too
@The Ugly Irish football wise they are not hated not The stupid Nazi thing
I thought people have been complaining that in games under Sowfgate, Southern Britain weren't "moving forward".
He done well but the team is to good for him now, It needs a attacking manager that prioritises possession to realise full potential... maybe a Spanish one, pep would be nice
The contradiction is that English teams are known for their attacking mentality and daring do that with that wealth of offensive talent they should have been more spectacular in their play.
No. He's totally wrong. Having said that, I hope he stays as manager FOREVER as long as he's there is NEVER coming home. And that's fine by me.
He's got further than 11 of his predecessors to be fair
@@mattc7191 Still a loser.
@@BinkyTheGoddessDivine we can't all be winners like you errrrr.....Binky
@@mattc7191 Funny you say that. I'm Italian, Brazilian and Dutch. That's 9 world cup trophies combined.
@Bud ding Bud budBtw genius, I'm not a guy, I'm a woman. And yes, GTFO here.
That was great when Frank praises himself.
We need to add more ball players in midfield. We could have used players maybe like barkley, winks and even lingard to help us take the ball under pressure, move it quickly and progress the ball up to the forwards. Foden should have played in midfield instead of wide right because naturally he is comfortable and he can move it quickly.
I agree with Frank 100%
England’s lucky path to a Euros final:
- Easy group
- Easy bracket
- Played every game at Wembley except against Ukraine farmers
- Thomas Müller miss
- Paid UEFA
- Eriksen injury
- Robbed Denmark with bs pen
- Chiesa injury
And even with all that luck they still lost😂
Let’s laugh at Pengland😂😂
Because you are either an Arsenal or Tottenham fan
@@claudemakelele2856 I am neither. He is not that strong defensively on a consistent basis.
England’s lucky path to a Euros final:
- Easy group
- Easy bracket
- Played every game at Wembley except against Ukraine farmers
- Thomas Müller miss
- Paid UEFA
- Eriksen injury
- Robbed Denmark with bs pen
- Chiesa injury
And even with all that luck they still lost😂
Let’s laugh at Pengland😂😂
Frank is going crazy. The stats are facts. Jorginho has improved a lot in the defensive aspect of his game
Frank with the shots 🤣🤣🤣
Im Dutch and im surprised England has such a bad run in tournaments.. its mind boggling to be honest.
Southgate is good with players, if they believe in him then let him do WC, but lets press him so he learns and uses English talent to play more attacking. (did i say im Dutch?)
(and yes Orange side sucked in euros.. but with v Gaal it will be ok in WC i hope :P )
Southgate sets up to not loose, as opposed to setting up to win & that's where the balance is missing
Talk of Southgate being knighted is ridiculous. They lost. What would they give him had they won???
@@terryscott4746 They would let his shag Pricess Anne !
Great hat N, good one!!!!
Stevie : Misery loves company lmao so true
The PK fiasco is 100% on Southgate. Bringing on Rashford and Sancho as substitutes at the final minutes with no chance for them get a game feel, and with enormous pressure on these two young players knowing they were brought in specifically to take PK, they are just all around very bad decisions.
Voldemort with hair will never win England a tournament, this is as far as he can take them.
Lol,Voldemort .That's a good one and I agree with you.This will be the closest England will come to winning a major tournament and they'll never get another chance.
@@elizabethmolino8262 no we wil go one better again
@The Ugly Irish lmao that song is a curse, keep singing and we will keep rejoicing England failing at every tournament
@@glennbateman4483 ,I highly doubt that ,but I admire your optimism.
Frank is honest and funny to listen too as a pundit. But in the French Caribbean you would of been an average defender in local competition. Success as pundit.
I don’t seem to get the logic of England having the advantage at home. I would think it was the opposite. The expectation and their anxious wait of a major final for 55 years would have given more pressure on the guys. I think it made the players more nervous. In Rome, it seemed they played with more freedom and less pressure. It was the only result where England didn’t need to scrape a victory.
Pragmatic approach can take you far but at the main final you need more
Too defensive , with the tremendous talent he has .
Southgate should park the bus and subbed kane and sterling and bring on Mings and henderson after scoring.
Yes, if you want to keep playing a boring, predictable and defensive football.
Nedum is spot on, Southgate may not be the most exciting manager but he has achieved more than most managers we have had. I just think maybe his tactics need some work as he was outsmarted by Mancini in the final
Southgate had NO tactics, he froze in the second half like a Rabbit in the headlights !
No Frank , it’s not about the spectacular or charging forward and having no defence. It’s about playing football , passing and moving and contesting the game. Parking the bus and inviting pressure is also dangerous.
"This England side have failed to qualify in the past", is a fundamentally dishonest statement to make. This is the most talented side England has ever had in my lifetime. There is no manager under whom they would fail to qualify in these circumstances. Southgate is holding them back.
You obviously missed England's Golden Generation! That team had better players than the current team
Who Would you pick then?
@@LunaLakshmi I would keep Gareth Southgate for the next World Cup! He is the most successful Manager England has had since 1966! He has taken England to the World Cup Semi-final, the Nations league Semi-final, and the Euros final! Why would you get rid of him!
If England had put their top attacking players on the field from the start and still lost, then it would heve been proper to accept defeat. What frustrated fans was the manager's inaction and inability to see what everyone was seing at home. . England had the best team of the tournament and only great mismanagement could have produced such an end.. Soutgate needs to spend a weekend with Bielsa, as Zidane and Guardiala did at their start.
That's a decent idea but I doubt that any manager would dare make the English squad play as attacking as Bielsa's Leeds...
@@tsvetelin6556 Bielsa did it with Chile in the world cup and it changed the history of that team from then on.
@@pototo1 I've missed that will check this!
Frank (live) and Nedum are great additions.
I am so glade you guys on this show don’t get political. 👏🏻
He’s not the right man please English football change your national team coach, England has the most lethal attacking players in the world but they’re useless under Southgate,we need the likes of Frank Lampard and Steven Gerard
England has good attackers but not the midfield and centerbacks to play possession style football.
Most lethal attacking players? Hahahahahahaha.
Frank with the one two and a massive HAYMAKER. twitter warrior down.
King Frank. Go brother go!
guys, will frank be back in the future? i really like him but is this last day means he is quitting espn? sry i didnt quite understand
Great show boys 😎
England have more similarities with Spurs.
•Both are very SPURSY
•Both are very negative
•Both hasn't won a trophy for dinosaur years
•Both have Harry Kane who jinx anything which is a trophy for the team but can only win Golden boot or MOTM performances (greedy personal trophies)
It was never the plan to defend deep, Italy pressed high and make it difficult for England. What England lacked in midfield is a ball retaining midfielder like Jorginho, Busquets, Thiago, Rodi and the likes that can build play from the back and push Italy back.
Sometimes we overanalyse nonsense while ignoring the obvious
True. I didn't understand why he brought in Henderson, Rice may not be all that, but he protected England's back 4.
Grealish should have came in earlier in order for this to be fixed.
@@tsvetelin6556 grealish isnt a playmaker .... he isnt like jorginho , xavi , busquets , pogba etc
thank you bro 🤣 southgate had to make up for not having a ball retaining midfielder thats why he played rice and philips together because they complement eachother leaving him with fewer options in the attcking half where he could have used grealish sancho rashford foden etc
@@Kalvin.Lingard if you use in th same system sterling -grealish - saka you will lose from your defence
I still don't get why some videos are on ESPN UK and some are on this channel.
As a football fan, despite the loss, it is great to see an English team competing into the latter stages of major tournaments. A world cup semi and a euro final under southgate has to be given its due credit.
FRANK IS SUCH A LEGEND NOOO😭
He is right man for England going backwards not Forward. (if u know what i mean 🥲)
I completely agree with Steve Nicol’s opener. We didn’t use our attacking players/options correctly. We have the ammunition to really hurts sides but Southgate is too conservative.
Southgate deserves to keep the job as England manager but has been given many added advantages. Well done Garath.
He should step down when the goings good. He’ll get sacked if he stays longer
England’s lucky path to a Euros final:
- Easy group
- Easy bracket
- Played every game at Wembley except against Ukraine farmers
- Thomas Müller miss
- Paid UEFA
- Eriksen injury
- Robbed Denmark with bs pen
- Chiesa injury
And even with all that luck they still lost😂
Let’s laugh at Pengland😂😂
@@cr7productions955 i think u meant spinazzola injury
@@exiled373 he meant Denmark would have won with ERIKSEN
@@cr7productions955
There's no such thing called "Fair Game" , your opponent exposed their weaknesses,you use it as your own advantages.
@@cr7productions955 "peng" means sexy in england , so thank you x
Remember france lost euro2016 , come back with change players and playing style win worldcup . southgate need to fix it , we need more tactics then 1
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As the dicussion about penaltytaking went on, I thought: its the EuroCup - the best teams and players in Europe - wouldnt you expect them to be able to kick a penalty. Get real, its not "kindergarten". Come on. Anything can happen - and life MUST go on. Paul McCartney sings "Hope of Delieverance" - .. we must simply do our best (and maybe pray to the Gods).
Does he deserve to keep his job, especially given the bad tactics? My simple answer is: it's very complicated, and I don't have a clear and concise answer. Why?
Simply put: this is England, and sadly, the *first* priority for *any* England manager is actually *not at all* related to *strategy* (as *every* previous "strategic maestro" they've hired has failed due to several "self-inflicted wounds" prevalent within the team that result in their strategies *never even coming close* to being executed as planned), but instead, the first priority is, as I like to say, "stopping the bleeding of those self-inflicted wounds" that plague the team and *have plagued* the team for *decades!*
What are those "self-inflicted wounds"? Things like cliques forming within the team that cause certain players to *actively sabotage* members of other cliques and try to *hurt* their performance on the field by not passing to them or lowering their stats (yes, this has been talked about as being a major problem at nearly *every* tournament)! Things like players being selfish, trying to use the team *only* to boost *their own* stock in the hope of raising their salaries or securing a big-money move to a major club, *rather* than actually *executing* the gameplan and helping the team win! And yes, rivalries and putting individual-over-team performance exists elsewhere as well, but in *other* national teams, it's often *culturally taboo* to have such attitudes (as in, you as a player are *expected* to "check that kind of attitude at the door," and if you don't, you will be *destroyed* by your teammates, the media, and even *your own club team* for that kind of behavior, and therefore, they pop up *rarely* and are *relatively easy* to fix when they do in those other teams, while with *this* national team, it's *very rarely* been called out, and has become *accepted* as *normal* in training camp, with little to no pressure on those people exhibiting that kind of selfish and destructive behavior to change it)!
For those wondering, *that* is why in previous tournaments, England is *so bad* at avoiding *upsets!* It's behavior like *that* that lead to them being upset by Romania in 1998 and ending up second in the group, being forced to play Argentina in the Round of 16! It's behavior like *that* that lead to them failing to win the group *again* four years later *despite* having *beaten* Argentina, because they failed to win against Sweden and Nigeria (ultimately leading to them playing Brazil in the quarters, as opposed to Turkey)! It's behavior like that that resulted in them drawing with the US and Algeria in 2010, resulting in them failing to win the group *again* and having to play *Germany* in the Round of 16! And yes, some bad tactical and managerial decisions *were* made in those games, but let's be honest, this team was *so talented* that *it should not have mattered!* They still should have *won* that game against Romania, *beaten* Sweden and Nigeria, *beaten* the United States and Algeria, *despite* those bad decisions! And for matches against big footballing nations, forget it! Before Southgate took over, England had not beaten Germany in a major competition since 1966 (even when Germany has fielded some weak or horribly depleted teams), England had beaten Argentina only *once* in a major competition since 1966, and has *never* beaten Brazil in a major competition!
So, in other words, this team couldn't even be expected to do the *bare minimum* before, due to these "self-inflicted wounds," and the *first* job of *any* new manager (well before actually deciding on "what is the best game plan" and "who are my best players") was going to be to "stop the bleeding" from these "self-inflicted wounds" and prevent England from *losing* to teams they had *no business* losing to! Southgate has apparently *done that!* He's a bad tactician with a terrible gameplan, but at least his team is *finally* actually *executing* the game plan they've been given, which *could not* be said about *previous* managers (even the tactical maestros)! He's definitely not playing his best players, but at least the players he chooses are actually *winning* the games they're *supposed* to win, unlike previous teams that had *much better* athletes playing, but could not even finish above teams whose *entire teams* had a *collective* value on the transfer market less than *one or two* of England's players (that actually was true in many cases! For example, in 2010, Gerrard and Lampard *alone* had a collective transfer market valuation higher than the *entire* USA squad *combined,* yet finished *behind* them in the group)! And yes, reports from inside the camp *very much* suggest that Southgate *has indeed* "stopped the bleeding!" The cliques were surprisingly no longer there, and selfish attitudes by players often resulted in players getting benched or dropped (which may explain why some of the more talented players aren't being chosen or starting)!
So, does he deserve to keep his job? The answer is: I honestly don't know, because it depends on the answer to *multiple* key questions! The main ones being:
(1) Has Southgate changed the culture forever, and will any future manager have to deal with those previous "self-inflicted wounds" if he leaves, or has Southgate simply "patched them up" for now (i.e. players are only behaving because he's there), and they'll return the moment he's gone?
(2) If the bleeding has just been "stopped" for now, then is there a manager who can *keep* it stopped while *also* being a great tactician and strategical maestro?
If the answer to the first question is, "the 'bleeding' is forever stopped," then yes, time to let Southgate go and bring in a strategic maestro! If the answer to the second question is, "yes, there is, and his (or even her) name is [insert name here]," then yes, time to let Southgate go and bring *that* person in!
If the answer to the first question is, "No, the 'bleeding' is likely to return if he leaves," and the answer to the second question is, "I don't know anyone who knows how to keep the 'bleeding' patched up *and* is a better tactician than Southgate," then obviously, the FA *needs* to stick with Southgate a little longer!
*That* is the reality of this situation!
Very good analyse that will not have been thought of by many. I enjoyed it. By the way, Brian Clough is best manager England never had.😎
Very well summarised 👍
Thanks for your comment bro! Very well put indeed. You said certain things that I was not aware of as I'm obviously not English. I think Southgate should stay on the job at least for the World Cup.
We saw spain and barca Dominate with xavi and iniesta, and this tournament they dominated italy without indiviual stars, total football is the way to go, if you dont see it you are delusional .
Under Gareth Southgate supervision, you have a man here who’s seen us get knocked out of semi-final of a World Cup, knocked out of a semi-final of a nations league and come runners up at a European championship (but that’s deemed progression in this country)
Does he lead this England side into the next World Cup?
Going of his last 3 ventures, NO!
Frank is slightly clueless I have to say. This and the “Italy is a small county” makes me think he never went to school too
French pride is what it is, when Italy meet and beat France in the next friendly maybe he'll eat crow