I’ve had the La Prima(not by Bocelli) for a year and covered 11000 miles, car has been perfect and all the self driving tech is amazing, I can get about 160-180 miles in summer and 140-160 in winter over fast moorland roads and the lower echelons of the two are when hooning it 😂 It’s a cracking fun car to drive, 0-62 8 seconds, great chassis balance and it’s a 100kW motor not 87 as advertised, that’s only for low power mode 🙂 couldn’t recommend it more to people and because it’s a Fiat 500 no one expects it to take off the way it does there’s few who will beat you at the lights and it even holds it’s on in the twisty stuff! Great machine and well worth your time and consideration
For everyone who does not know..always ignore the offical range..when you get the car you litterally see the 199 range show up...1 time then after that in summer you can sometimes charge to 170 miles or about 160 miles. winter it is more like 140 to 150 mile range
EV database states you’ll get around 145 real range, I’m currently at the same mark with my 40kw gen 2 Leaf. I’m sure the Leaf is also more efficient than the fiat
@@caolkyle actually i was getting a full 170 when it was warmer weather, in the weather we have right now im getting about 145-155...i got 155 the other day. i keep a check on it. it is 160 miles a week to work and back and when it was warmer i did not have to charge during the week, right now i am charging once but only about 50 mile top up
A few months ago I bought a 21 plate La Prima for my wife and she absolutely loves it. We were going to get a new Icon but couldn't find one without a long wait, then the used La Prima was offered. It's excellent, great tech, lots of toys, and dead easy to drive.
I have had the icon version on lease sine april. great car. only issue i have had was aload of warning signs and sounds and it turned out the 12v battery was defected and had case damage and was leaking acid, all sorted and enjoying it again. I am 6ft 3 and have tons of room, i have to have my drivers seat as far back as it can go but there is only me in the car so its a non issue. loads of leg and head room. the front of the car is pretty spacious and helps having the big space where the gear stick etc would normally be. the only thing i have really is the rear view mirror blocks a bit of sight but the icon version does not have seat height adjustment so not sure if that would fix that as the position its in is perfect for everything else, seeing the speedo screen etc. the previous car was a petrol ds3 crossback lease which had way less room at the front, not much leg room or headroom and also i had to have the seat set at its lowest setting and the steering wheel set to its highest but i still had litterally 1cm gap from the bottom of the steering wheel to the tops of my legs so as you could imagine steering was not that good as my hands kept getting stopped with tops of my legs due to hardly any cap
@@benrgrogan thanks Ben, I noticed they had disappeared from the leasing company's listing I use late last year when I was considering a replacement for my old car.
If you're shopping in the pre-owned market, want the 42KWh drivetrain and are not over-bothered about tech, the discontinued Passion version was a good compromise at several thousand cheaper than the more upmarket versions.
The 42kW version is the only EV in the world with a Cabrio that has a 300km range. Pity that the price went up from €30k in 2020 to €37k in 2022. What is great, is that it is a 2 door EV and that makes it more environmentally friendly. Less material less weight.
Apparently, the 500e is coming to North America. I'm on the fence if this will sell or not. Sales of the 500 when it came back to North America in 2011 peaked during the first couple of years then slowly fizzled out until it made no sense for Fiat to continue supporting the brand in North America. Customers simply went nuts with SUVs and pickup trucks to the point that other car manufacturers dropped their cheap car offerings altogether, with Ford only keeping the Mustang as their only "car" type vehicle!
no point going for the 24kw version and go for the 42kw like i did tbh the Icon model has everything you really need. i got mine for £250 a month which includes maintience and it cost a extra £10 a month in that price for the black model as the free white colour was out of stock
@@Dreador. true but you have to factor in charging and how often you will need to charge and also factor in removing about 40 miles from the so called range the car has in winter
I have owned the Q4 for coming up to 12 months now. I agree with everything that has been said, but Audi do need to desperately update the software on the early cars, there are a few glitches and a screen that comes on every time you start the car which you have to physically press OK to clear it. Regarding driving modes and range I have found it to be slightly better driving it in D mode than B mode especially now it’s getting colder. For some reason Audi do say it’s more efficient in D mode than B ???.
I too want an affordable car. The problem is that affordable cars don't provide the profit that today's automakers need to survive. Toyota Motors can no longer survive on the profits delivered by a Tercel or Echo. Chrysler couldn't survive on the profits from Dodge Omnis. Today's Stellantis surely can not do so either. There won't be a cheap Fiat 500e. Providing Pete with an affordable car is not a concern to the automakers. Their job is to make a profit and give that money to the shareholders. The automakers don't care if Pete or anyone else has to take the bus.
My wife loves the fun look of the Fiat 500, but I seriously doubt she would be happy driving one. Me? I'd get a kick out of running errands around town in the Cabrio model. I'm surprised by the 24kW model's range, as my LEAF had the same size battery and could barely hit 100 miles in ideal conditions.
100 miles is a fantasy. It's rated for 30 kWh/100 miles here in America. Our ratings are closer to reality than the WLTP ratings yall use. Accordingly the 24 kWh battery version would only have a range of 80 miles.
Far too much of this video focuses on features, not enough of the car, like how useable 24kWh is, a lot more than reviewers/auto journalists like to make is think.
I think it's very interesting that Fiat is pushing so hard for reviews of these cars over a year after they came to the UK (poor RHD sales, perhaps?). Could you please do a quick video showing where to *safely* put your left foot when driving? That'd be great. Thanks!
While I have no sales numbers for the entire continent, the Fiat 500e has been in the top 5 of German new electric vehicle registration statistics for at least the last few months.
i love the wireless android auto in my icon....works flawless each time no issues. makes me laugh how alot of EV cars are still wired only android auto yet these same cars have a wireless charging pad...where is the sense in that. Even the new MG4 has dated wired android auto. When my lease is up in 17 month i wont be getting another car that is wired only... makes a world of difference which if you have not used it before you will not understand
Anything less than a Le prima and you have to pay for extra …even for a fully adjustable drivers seat (not heated). It’s clear that @fiat has pushed comfort standards aside….even tho they are charging £32.5k. I really didn’t like the la prima interior so I went for the icon 87kw with some extra packs. My old fiat 500S’s came with a fully adjustable seats and floor mats, my abarth also had them as standard… oh you also have to pay extra for floor mats. Instead @fiat have wasted money just overloaded the car with tech, most of which I’ve already turned off and find annoying as hell. Coming from my old abarth 595 competitione to a fiat 500e icon has definitely been eye opening and not in the best way. The range is actually more like 145miles, at least that’s what I’ve found over the month I’ve had it (driving mostly in range mode). Don’t know how the hell she got 199 miles 😂not a chance
Charming as you are, you lost me when you stated something like 'this is the cheapest car in the UK except for other 3 that are cheaper and also, this is not available to buy now'... What's the point of it all madam? Nil points.
The higher spec 500 seems to make no sense to me - I get that they are 'fashion statements' but you can get a real, usable car for that money... MG4 springs to mind, but there are others in the pipeline.
The MG4 has no cabrio version, and the MG4 is about 400kg more heavy than the Fiat 500e Cabrio. 99% of the time there is nobody sitting in the 2 empty seats in the back and there is no use for the 2 rear doors. So what is a "real usable" car? We use only 2 seats 100% of the time and 70% of the time we enjoy the openend cabrio roof.
@@chrispenn715 Smaller cars appeal to a very large part of the globale market. Not everyone weighs 150kg and needs a 10 square meter car 😁 Countries like China and India mostly use small cars, specially in crowded cities. And even Most Europeans ride around in small leightweight ICE cars. Except maybe the Germans . . . . but they to are starting to grow bigger and bigger. 😉
Whatever miles it says, 🚗 always reduce 100 miles out of it. That will be the realistic range in any condition and also deduct futhuer 5 miles every year as your batteries 🔋 are dying as well. Now you decide what car you want with that price.
Take 100 miles off it, you say...? That's funny, because my BMW i3 has a WLTP range of 137 miles... yet, I regularly got 140-150 miles in summer and I'm currently getting about 120 miles in winter... strange, that... Oh, and it's 5 years old... that's strange, too, isn't it... 🤔
Awful car, no legroom in the back, you can get a 2020 Smart Forfour EQ for a lot less and has tons of legroom. And only costs £15/mth to service. Bad journalism when you don't do the full research.
@Aswin Anbarasan agree, but why offer a four seater which has limited use. Shame VAG stopped making the UP/Citigo/Mii. That is a far better offering than the 500e. More practical and a lot cheaper. The 500e isn't worth the money!
@@ammaraihaan Only problem is that they are still (Up/Mii) a “style free” zone and most people, for good or ill, want a bit of style. A year on and I’m still delighted with the 500e only real downside is lack of foot space but it give many smiles per mile to make up for that niggle…
I’ve had the La Prima(not by Bocelli) for a year and covered 11000 miles, car has been perfect and all the self driving tech is amazing, I can get about 160-180 miles in summer and 140-160 in winter over fast moorland roads and the lower echelons of the two are when hooning it 😂 It’s a cracking fun car to drive, 0-62 8 seconds, great chassis balance and it’s a 100kW motor not 87 as advertised, that’s only for low power mode 🙂 couldn’t recommend it more to people and because it’s a Fiat 500 no one expects it to take off the way it does there’s few who will beat you at the lights and it even holds it’s on in the twisty stuff! Great machine and well worth your time and consideration
For everyone who does not know..always ignore the offical range..when you get the car you litterally see the 199 range show up...1 time then after that in summer you can sometimes charge to 170 miles or about 160 miles. winter it is more like 140 to 150 mile range
EV database states you’ll get around 145 real range, I’m currently at the same mark with my 40kw gen 2 Leaf. I’m sure the Leaf is also more efficient than the fiat
@@caolkyle actually i was getting a full 170 when it was warmer weather, in the weather we have right now im getting about 145-155...i got 155 the other day. i keep a check on it. it is 160 miles a week to work and back and when it was warmer i did not have to charge during the week, right now i am charging once but only about 50 mile top up
Then it’s false advertising
@@marklola12 is that in a leaf or fiat?
Rule of thumb with EVs is always 90% real world summer, 70% real world winter. Take off a further 10% for motorways. Add on 10% for town driving only.
A few months ago I bought a 21 plate La Prima for my wife and she absolutely loves it. We were going to get a new Icon but couldn't find one without a long wait, then the used La Prima was offered. It's excellent, great tech, lots of toys, and dead easy to drive.
I have a 52 year old - 1970 - 500L. Quite a short range, for very different reasons! I’ll stick with that one🤗
don't get into a traffic accident, you'll be killed.
I have had the icon version on lease sine april. great car. only issue i have had was aload of warning signs and sounds and it turned out the 12v battery was defected and had case damage and was leaking acid, all sorted and enjoying it again. I am 6ft 3 and have tons of room, i have to have my drivers seat as far back as it can go but there is only me in the car so its a non issue. loads of leg and head room. the front of the car is pretty spacious and helps having the big space where the gear stick etc would normally be.
the only thing i have really is the rear view mirror blocks a bit of sight but the icon version does not have seat height adjustment so not sure if that would fix that as the position its in is perfect for everything else, seeing the speedo screen etc.
the previous car was a petrol ds3 crossback lease which had way less room at the front, not much leg room or headroom and also i had to have the seat set at its lowest setting and the steering wheel set to its highest but i still had litterally 1cm gap from the bottom of the steering wheel to the tops of my legs so as you could imagine steering was not that good as my hands kept getting stopped with tops of my legs due to hardly any cap
I have the Red Edition and love it 🥰
I've just ordered a 500e red edition ❤
I thought the Seat Mii and VW e-up had stopped production or am I mistaken?
They have, I think some dealers still have stock though
@@benrgrogan thanks Ben, I noticed they had disappeared from the leasing company's listing I use late last year when I was considering a replacement for my old car.
If you're shopping in the pre-owned market, want the 42KWh drivetrain and are not over-bothered about tech, the discontinued Passion version was a good compromise at several thousand cheaper than the more upmarket versions.
An electrified Panda is sorely missed
But the supposed new Panda "SUV" is more likely to be based on the same platform of the Citroën Oli concept
Agree, but the Jeep Avenger that comes out next year, so the new Panda could be based on that?
@@ammaraihaan The Jeep Avenger is just the 2008/C4/DS3/Mokka platform, I doubt the new Panda will be based on that
@SHROOMY why not? The Avenger is smaller than a Corsa e, so it's a possibility.
How do you order these in the U.S.?
The 42kW version is the only EV in the world with a Cabrio that has a 300km range.
Pity that the price went up from €30k in 2020 to €37k in 2022.
What is great, is that it is a 2 door EV and that makes it more environmentally friendly. Less material less weight.
Could really do with the Winter Range as well as the manufacturer's 'aspirational' range.
It would be the 500 icon for me
Apparently, the 500e is coming to North America. I'm on the fence if this will sell or not. Sales of the 500 when it came back to North America in 2011 peaked during the first couple of years then slowly fizzled out until it made no sense for Fiat to continue supporting the brand in North America. Customers simply went nuts with SUVs and pickup trucks to the point that other car manufacturers dropped their cheap car offerings altogether, with Ford only keeping the Mustang as their only "car" type vehicle!
do you know when the new 500e is scheduled to come to North America?
An estate fiat 500 giardiniera was a badly missed opportunity
wouldn't have sold. The 600 is what they need, which they are going to launch.
@@Tyrewhispererand it has proved poorly
When it will be available at Bhubaneswar, Odisha
no point going for the 24kw version and go for the 42kw like i did tbh the Icon model has everything you really need. i got mine for £250 a month which includes maintience and it cost a extra £10 a month in that price for the black model as the free white colour was out of stock
Unless of course you don’t do more than 75 miles a day…….
@@Dreador. true but you have to factor in charging and how often you will need to charge and also factor in removing about 40 miles from the so called range the car has in winter
@@marklola12 Yeah I did that's why I said 75 miles not 115
I have owned the Q4 for coming up to 12 months now. I agree with everything that has been said, but Audi do need to desperately update the software on the early cars, there are a few glitches and a screen that comes on every time you start the car which you have to physically press OK to clear it.
Regarding driving modes and range I have found it to be slightly better driving it in D mode than B mode especially now it’s getting colder. For some reason Audi do say it’s more efficient in D mode than B ???.
I, like millions of other people on Fixed Income or Minimum Wage don’t want Luxury items. We want Affordability.
I too want an affordable car. The problem is that affordable cars don't provide the profit that today's automakers need to survive. Toyota Motors can no longer survive on the profits delivered by a Tercel or Echo. Chrysler couldn't survive on the profits from Dodge Omnis. Today's Stellantis surely can not do so either. There won't be a cheap Fiat 500e. Providing Pete with an affordable car is not a concern to the automakers. Their job is to make a profit and give that money to the shareholders. The automakers don't care if Pete or anyone else has to take the bus.
Too be honest, a 24kw version will probably suit me fine, am finding my Peugeot e208 range quite generous, not that am complaining 😁
Hmm a bit more expensive than I thought - for the larger battery version. Certainly heading for the e corsa/e 208 price bracket.
Great small Car.
You haven't got the Dacia Spring there?
It's more cheap. Less attractive though.
Unfortunately the Spring isn't on sale in the UK where we are based.
My wife loves the fun look of the Fiat 500, but I seriously doubt she would be happy driving one. Me? I'd get a kick out of running errands around town in the Cabrio model. I'm surprised by the 24kW model's range, as my LEAF had the same size battery and could barely hit 100 miles in ideal conditions.
100 miles is a fantasy. It's rated for 30 kWh/100 miles here in America. Our ratings are closer to reality than the WLTP ratings yall use. Accordingly the 24 kWh battery version would only have a range of 80 miles.
I hope they bring this product red model to the states :)
You can buy a much better GWM Ora 'Good Cat' for £17,700... But there's a caveat: you have to live here in Thailand. 😄
The range and price isn’t good enough! A lot of people are going to be forced off the road if prices don’t come down and range doesn’t increase
Or MG4 with heatpumpe
£23k is enough for a small car, just needs the bigger battery to make it a ‘player’ once the small Chinese EV’s hit in 2023
Y'all often forget, most of the world drives on the right - so that 3rd door option is pretty slick.
Duh, no! Obviously you don't get about very much 🙄
Far too much of this video focuses on features, not enough of the car, like how useable 24kWh is, a lot more than reviewers/auto journalists like to make is think.
I think it's very interesting that Fiat is pushing so hard for reviews of these cars over a year after they came to the UK (poor RHD sales, perhaps?). Could you please do a quick video showing where to *safely* put your left foot when driving? That'd be great. Thanks!
While I have no sales numbers for the entire continent, the Fiat 500e has been in the top 5 of German new electric vehicle registration statistics for at least the last few months.
Left line drive is not allowed…. Also steering wheel on a wrong side😅
Unfortunately here in the US, fiat doesn't have a good reputation
Better than the new Mini
For me the icon then the la prima
i love the wireless android auto in my icon....works flawless each time no issues. makes me laugh how alot of EV cars are still wired only android auto yet these same cars have a wireless charging pad...where is the sense in that. Even the new MG4 has dated wired android auto. When my lease is up in 17 month i wont be getting another car that is wired only... makes a world of difference which if you have not used it before you will not understand
Anything less than a Le prima and you have to pay for extra …even for a fully adjustable drivers seat (not heated). It’s clear that @fiat has pushed comfort standards aside….even tho they are charging £32.5k. I really didn’t like the la prima interior so I went for the icon 87kw with some extra packs. My old fiat 500S’s came with a fully adjustable seats and floor mats, my abarth also had them as standard… oh you also have to pay extra for floor mats. Instead @fiat have wasted money just overloaded the car with tech, most of which I’ve already turned off and find annoying as hell. Coming from my old abarth 595 competitione to a fiat 500e icon has definitely been eye opening and not in the best way. The range is actually more like 145miles, at least that’s what I’ve found over the month I’ve had it (driving mostly in range mode). Don’t know how the hell she got 199 miles 😂not a chance
Nice! TY!
Charming as you are, you lost me when you stated something like 'this is the cheapest car in the UK except for other 3 that are cheaper and also, this is not available to buy now'...
What's the point of it all madam?
Nil points.
The higher spec 500 seems to make no sense to me - I get that they are 'fashion statements' but you can get a real, usable car for that money... MG4 springs to mind, but there are others in the pipeline.
The MG4 has no cabrio version, and the MG4 is about 400kg more heavy than the Fiat 500e Cabrio. 99% of the time there is nobody sitting in the 2 empty seats in the back and there is no use for the 2 rear doors. So what is a "real usable" car?
We use only 2 seats 100% of the time and 70% of the time we enjoy the openend cabrio roof.
@@BMWHP2 yes. I get that the 500 appeals to a different market
@@chrispenn715 Smaller cars appeal to a very large part of the globale market. Not everyone weighs 150kg and needs a 10 square meter car 😁
Countries like China and India mostly use small cars, specially in crowded cities. And even Most Europeans ride around in small leightweight ICE cars. Except maybe the Germans . . . . but they to are starting to grow bigger and bigger. 😉
FIAT mini EV four seater with power windows & AC will dominate in market
Get the Abarth version
MG4
Mg4 seems a much better option for the money.
Your missing the smart car! That’s cheaper!
That's still being built?
But their range is less than 62 miles/100 km and they are smaller than the Fiat 500e.
Mercedes absolutely squandered the ForTwo ED
Smart Forfour EQ has a lot more legroom in the back compared to the 500e and real life range is about 70 miles but it does have a smaller battery
True but I am just stating it’s cheaper. I’d rather pay just slightly more and get an MG4
Not a chance.
Whatever miles it says, 🚗 always reduce 100 miles out of it. That will be the realistic range in any condition and also deduct futhuer 5 miles every year as your batteries 🔋 are dying as well. Now you decide what car you want with that price.
Take 100 miles off it, you say...?
That's funny, because my BMW i3 has a WLTP range of 137 miles... yet, I regularly got 140-150 miles in summer and I'm currently getting about 120 miles in winter... strange, that...
Oh, and it's 5 years old... that's strange, too, isn't it... 🤔
ABARTH!!
EVs are nonsense - just get small petrol car and save £1000
Noice
Awful car, no legroom in the back, you can get a 2020 Smart Forfour EQ for a lot less and has tons of legroom. And only costs £15/mth to service.
Bad journalism when you don't do the full research.
The smart is crap, and its a city car you don't need a lot of room.
@Aswin Anbarasan agree, but why offer a four seater which has limited use. Shame VAG stopped making the UP/Citigo/Mii. That is a far better offering than the 500e. More practical and a lot cheaper. The 500e isn't worth the money!
The Smart is no longer on sale.
@@ammaraihaan Only problem is that they are still (Up/Mii) a “style free” zone and most people, for good or ill, want a bit of style. A year on and I’m still delighted with the 500e only real downside is lack of foot space but it give many smiles per mile to make up for that niggle…
bad journalism would be recommending a Smart in a video about which is the best Fiat 500e to buy..
Seriously it looks like crap 💩
🈶引擎的就买…电车？？就拥有别车吧！😂😂
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Yes, it is the cheapest electric car and at the same time the poorest el-car in every aspect!😉