@@paulie-Gualtieri. I have to be honest, if I got an EV it would be a small hatch like this. What I hate is the big asz SUVs that weigh more than a commercial semi truck.
@@jwalster9412 The thing is, the Bolt is better than this car in all the dimensions that Doug says are the selling points for this. You can get a lightly used one with the tax credit for like half the money of this. Fiat is definitely still dying.
Well he’s wrong about a few brands such as MINI for one. I know their designs have become weirder than they once were. But crowded cities buy their cars like crazy, because of their size and ability to easily parallel park. Try Toronto Canada for example, go downtown and tell me how many brand new minis you see in one block. However, I agree Fiat as a brand is going bankrupt, rarely see them around. Alfa Romeo, seems to be doing quite well in my city any way, So i dunno about US.
@@jordannn392 the Fiat 500e was created and designed before the fusion to Stellantis. We have been driving the 500e for over three years and the quality surprised me positively then and still today. Better for us then than the MINI in its time. And the optional (in Europe) Level 2 driving assistant is surprisingly good.
$32.5K is just their idiotic list price. In my country they are already selling for half off or have really tempting PCP deals. At that point the car is worth it and I have a feeling Stellantis knows this.
That is an absurd price for a car that small. As cool as this car is, it probably wont do well because of the price, and then Fiat is going to wonder why it failed.
@@salamov963 I never understood what people mean by "third car". Who would use this as their third (or even second) car? Surely you'd use this as your primary car for your commute to work? Other cars would be the weekend/long trip/family cars?
I've been driving a *Fiat Abarth 500* since 2018 and still looks in mint condition and enjoy the turbo every time I go flying in it. Wouldn't trade it for the most expensive sports car in the world.
@@Rockport1911 Maybe they kept out wires, LEDs and Chips to safe some money or there are different laws for side indicators in the US and they didn't comply to those rules. Sometimes America with all its freedom doesn't allow for some things especially with car lights. Remember all the cars with the same headlights until the 80s 😂 or that Matrix headlights and swiping indicators starting small aren't allowed in the US but red turn signals are allowed that can double as break lights.
@@MrDuncl i can tell you, canada new cars dont have that. For examle , those JDM fans will put side turn signal on their hondas to make it jdm. Its not required in canada
@anemeth9281 Still makes no sense when competitors like the kona exist. Basically get twice as much with a kona for just slightly more. The interior and size of the 500e is also much worse than a $24k corolla.
@blownb310 No, this ev makes great sense when it costs about $10k less, which is what it sells for in Europe. That's the price that makes sense. For $32k, you can buy SUV EVs. Have you looked at the features you get on this thing? Not even a mirror in the visor, the nearly same price hyundai suv has way more comfort features.
In Canada they want $43k for it. Local dealer was misleading people with a $33,000 price with $10,000 "dealer discount" , but that was after government deductions, there was no dealer discount at all. He told me it was the cheapest EV I could get, but when I told him the Bolt was only $1000 more, and had twice the range, he basically stopped talking to me. Those 500e cars are still on the lot a month later. For 10k less (23,000) I'd have bought it, but not for asking.
That little clear fin with the tricolore in it has a purpose: it is a spoiler that makes the airflow rising up the front fender a little turbulent in order to stop wind flow over the side mirror from whistling or creating unpleasant harmonics when the window is open.
1) I have a first gen 500e. It IS zippy at low speeds, and is fun to drive in its intended environment (I drive 14 miles to work, my wife’s drive is 5 miles), and we live about 6 miles out of the Chicago city limits. As long as you’re not on an expressway, you’re rarely going over 45 mph. 2) in Europe, there’s an electric variant of the Abarth. If they bring that here, I will move heaven and earth to get my hands on one.
5:56 Slight correction: vehicles don't have to be made in the USA to qualify for the federal EV incentives; they have to undergo final assembly in North America. GM is making a lot of their EVs in Mexico and they all qualify.
I was given a 500e as a loaner car years ago. Ever since then I was obsessed with it and hoped that Doug would review one. I still hope that I will add one to my garage because it is a very fun car to own.
I've owned two of the earlier 500e's that were only sold in CA and OR and they are awesome for what they are -- which is a short range two seater City car. Fold the rear seats down permanently, call it a two seater, and there is plenty of storage. We did 29K miles on the first one (2014 model) and now 69K miles on the 2nd one (a 2017 model). Zero maintenance and zero repairs over the 98K total miles other than some upholstery issues on the seats. The electrical stuff is all Bosch. They should have called it the Bosch 500 and it would have sold better. High five to Bosch. The ownership experience was so good that I would consider the new 500e if the deal was right, and in a few months or a year, it might be. The early 500e's were not great as an only car, but they make GREAT second cars. It's really been one of my favorite cars ever and I've owned some pretty nice stuff.
In 1979 My sister bought the cheapest new car she could find, a $3000 Fiat 128. It was fun car to drive. The only place that could work on the electrics, was a shop in Salt Lake, Morgan Sports car. A Ferrari work shop. I called it the BUZZ BOX.
I’ve never understood electronic door poppers. Why have an electronic release when you must have a manual backup release. Just seems a bit superfluous if the manual release will always be the reliable option for getting out.
You can open the door with an app. you can also start the airco with the same app. You could not do this stuff "all mechanical". This is a modern car with modern features. Small does not mean cheap...
Not gonna lie....it's definitely cute. I love that it's actually small and light (by EV standards). Even if its only 120hp, that could be forgiven given it's size...plus it's an electric motor so it's already orders of magnitude more reliable than their ICE cars. Donno if I'd pay $30k+ for one though...
Its a light weight EV?! Oh No! what will happen when you register this in an anti-EV US state that PENALIZES you for your EV choice, under the guise of 'too heavy=break roads[that they do not fix}?
Sorry man but this car is no means light and specially being more reliable, i know the reliability from the original model isn't great but lol this EV version isn't any better.
We had a 2013 500e and it was a charm in the neighborhood. Sometimes we'd come home with more range than we started with. It was shockingly comfortable too. Bit of a scare picking it up initially though - it's not exactly a highway monster
I still have the original first gen 2014 500e it’s been an amazing, reliable car. It has 90,000 miles and it’s going strong I have had basically no issues. I imagine the new version is the same. Probably will upgrade at some point now that my dealer has some in stock too.
Fully legal to have side indicators in the US, many many german cars carry it over to North America, Fiat just decided to cheap out as it isnt a requirement. They probably saved a staggering 25 cent per vehicle by doing it.
Eh…. 10 years ago $35k wasn't "luxury expensive." Even the very cheapest Lexus (the "Prius c with a Lexus badge," the CT200h) in 2014 was $36k, and it wasn't really that luxury. Or expensive. (By contrast, the regular Prius could be specced more expensive than that.) 10 years ago, $35k was "nice medium-highish price". Heck, *20* years ago the Prius could be specced above $35k (as my 2004 Prius was bought for $30k, because we didn't bother with the extra $5000 that only got a couple fairly-useless extra features - HomeLink garage door control (no garage,) a tape deck (and theoretically better speakers,) and a navigation system that would become laughably outdated quickly; which it was.)
@@Xzibitfreek Every time my wife and I go out to eat the last couple years "man, it's so EXPENSIVE!" Yes, that happened. You know what else happened? Our paychecks went up.
Missed opportunity with the front 500 badge. They should have added the "e" under the second zero as an illuminated badge. So when the lights are off, it's just as it is now, 500. But with the lights on, that "e" lights up to mimic the 500e badge on the back. This is why these companies won't hire me. I'm too smart!
@@grimmerjxcts2206 yeh, I’ve actually been thinking about this all morning. I would have loved to be a fly on the wall in the meeting where this was decided.
I owned a 500e (previous gen) for almost 5 years now, and I can say that it has been a great daily commuter, saved me tons of money in gas, specially since I used to daily a lifted truck. And they are actually relatively fun to drive, pretty zippy and quick off the line. Love pissing off V6 Mustangs at the light because it takes of pretty quick and leaves them behind for most part until the speed limit is reached. With some coilovers and better tires you will lose a bit of range, but it becomes a lot more fun to drive and toss around.
We have had one for about a year and 7.000km. It is a decent city car, but the rear hatch is wrongly designed for the convertible and it is not s well made vehicle. But it is big enough to offer four seat for adults to drive around the city, while the trunk is just big enough for normal shopping. Parking it is always a joy, due to the size. My guess is we will not keep it in two years when the lease runs out.
As someone who doesnt care for EV's, I don't hate this. This is kinda what I always thought electric cars should be, small grocery getters. Now it would make more sense if it was 25k cheaper.
Probably the last bargain EV was the Chevy Bolt. $27,000 MSRP. 249 mile range (has no problem doing a little over 300 miles with mostly city driving). Plenty of interior room. More power available compared to the Fiat 500e. Qualified for the $7500 Fed Rebate. This Fiat 500e is just overpriced for what it is.
Equinox EV? It is more expensive but it’s also bigger with more range and it still qualifies for the tax credit. The Nissan leaf is also a bargain imo it just isn’t a great car unfortunately.
My daughter has a 2019 1957 Edition 500C and we love it. She lives in Astoria, Queens and it’s the perfect city car that she can park just about anywhere. I would absolutely buy an Abarth one however I have zero interest in EV’s and I cannot give up a manual transmission. I have heard that they may start selling ICE versions as well and I certainly am hoping so
very glad they reintroduced this to the U.S market - seemed like it was ahead of its time a few years ago but would fit perfectly in the current lineup of econo-EVs
You would think 120HP and the lightest car in its class would actually make it somewhat sporty, especially considering that electric cars tend to be faster off the line in general! Would love to know what the 0-60 time is, if any!
I live in Greece and the other day after a year of owning mine, I measured it with Dragy and it repeatedly did 0-60mph in 8.01 to 8.02 and 0-100kph (62mph) in 8.49 to 8.50. The 1/4 mile was also very repeatable at 16.02 to 16.05 @86mph. All measurements were done in two ways , starting with 70% and ending with 60% battery charge. Mind you I own a 3.8 sec 0-60 mph car (a tuned 440i BMW) and the Fiat feels pretty swift and absolutely sufficient in town driving. I needed the smallest possible "proper" EV for a daily commuter and the little Fiat is brilliant.
That little plastic bit sticking out the side with the Italian flag is the side turn signal that is required in Europe, but not the US. I guess for US cars, they don't bother installing the light.
I work at a Fiat Workshop in Germany. For the People wondering the clear thing sticking out of the front fenders is actually the Turn Signal for our german Model/Euro Models. Here in germany the entry trim has Halogen Lights in the front even the Turn signals but still in the same housing as the LED ones. Looks very cheap and in the base model you dont even have a Radio in the Car/Display in the middle.
I mean, I get your point, but if you are out to buy the biggest spec sheet for the least amount of money, you will end up with a soulless BYD. For many buyers, a car is about more than that, and this car has a 14%+ market share in the A+B BEV segment in Europe. The price tag is obviously fine since it is selling like hot cakes.
@@SpoooferThe price is fine if you’re living in Europe. Seeing as how this video is quite literally American, and nobody is buying these because there are better options, your point is not valid at all.
A few design observations. 1) A missed opportunity to use the translucent plastic {the one with the flag} as a side marker repeater. 2) If you remove the stem and the stroke (the vertical and horizontal lines) of the "5" in the 500, you get 3/4 of an Audi. 3) A horizontal cutout in the cupholder in the shape of the "0" in 500, which can double as a phone holder when placed in the slit.
I haven't seen such a quirky and interesting car for a long time! It is shame that US infrastructure limits this car to be a city-town car only and that FIAT entered your market with that model only. We use them and other new FIATs as a normal cars. Can't wait to see a new Abarth btw)
You can get the tax credit on a lease! I just got quoted a $70/mo lease, tax included, in Colorado Springs, CO. First payment only due at signing, absolutely insane deal if you're in Colorado! I saw tons of Cinquecentos in Milan and Como when I was in Italy last week. Pretty cool that these are made in Italy unlike the previous Mexican-built gas 500's. I wonder if the Abarth version is coming...
@@damilolaakannithat doesn't mean a lot cheaper 500s don't exist. 34k is a rip off. They arent selling well in Europe, so they ship them to you I guess. Value has always been the most important thing for FIAT buyers. Just know it is more budget brand than Honda or Kia.
@@damilolaakanni Oh really? I never realised that; I'm from the UK where the ICE version is still being sold. That ICE version starts at £16,800, while the electric model starts at £25,000. And I've seen two year old examples of the electric version for just £12,000, despite covering only under 6,800 miles. I don't know what it's like in the US as there's a lot of cars out there that we don't get or never heard of, but electric cars generally take a huge battering in depreciation here. I've seen some cars tank half their value in just four months and only 1,000 miles covered.
The exit sound on our 500e La Prima is a sad sound as if the car is sad you are leaving :) Sounds like the door sound the "Hitchikers guide to the galaxy" oh I forgot it also makes happy sound when you get in and plays a classical music when you start driving from the outside to warn others I think... The doors have a latch on the lower side for manual opening The handle area is for the key fob The protrution on the front end is one of the signal lights on ours :) Ours also have a third door :) You seem to be missing one on the right hand side ;) It is a very fun car to have and I am pretty much a gear head. Great city car and everyone loves it in our household. In Sherpa mode it will do 300kms in city limits the car at 80km/h. for highway driving and I drive it like a mad man It does 175km Thats doing max speed when ever possible... Fast charge it will do it in 20 mins from 25 to 80 percent Also you seem to be missing the moonroof. Yeah looks like US got the low tech versions... Sorry....
What makes it even more fun is a glass sunroof or a convertible version or even a 1+2 door version….not to mention the noise making Abarth versions….all versions we get in Europe. But they are also crazy expensive
Drove a rental one in Paris, France for a couple of hours and it was surprisingly good. Quiet, fast and comfortable. It was a pleasant experience to drive such a small electric car in that chaotic city.
@@blownb310yeah but you sound like someone who wouldn't get an EV in the first place. (Neither would I), but for someone who is shopping an EV, why would anyone in the US consider this tiny car with no range, over a Model 3 that would end up being like 8 grand less?
3:08 the little panel that sticks out with the Italian flag that doesn’t do anything is actually what would be a turn signal indicator for the ROW markets (ie Europe).
I like this and the mini cooper for making more expensive nicer small cars rather than just budget stripped out models like the mirage. Some of us live in cities and having a small car is super handy but don’t want a bare bones budget car
@@Breathtaker5000 I bought a used 2017 500e and in 5 years I’ve had to 1) buy 4 new tires 2) windshield wipers 3) headlight bulbs. That’s it. I was worried before I got it but it’s been a dream.
In 2005 one could get Fiat Panda diesel for 1/4 of the price of this 500e. The Panda diesel has around 700km of range on single tank. This makes it usable for even long, cross country trips. And having doors for passagers in the back, as well as more headroom for them, it's quite reasonable for 4 adults to travel. It's possible to travel with 5 adults but that's hardcore. I get this 500e is for vastly different consumer. But it's insane for me how far we fall from having a great choice in actually affordable new small city cars. Toyota Yaris was another example. And people are still driving those little people movers. They love them. Very cheap, simple, quite reliable.
We shopped this car before buying a Mazda MX-50, we got a much better all around vehicle for less money. Both have low range but if you don’t need it, you don’t miss it.
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Doug the type of guy to say Fiat is dying and then review one a week later.
Exactly lol
And an electric one that nobody wants
@@paulie-Gualtieri. I have to be honest, if I got an EV it would be a small hatch like this. What I hate is the big asz SUVs that weigh more than a commercial semi truck.
@@jwalster9412 The thing is, the Bolt is better than this car in all the dimensions that Doug says are the selling points for this. You can get a lightly used one with the tax credit for like half the money of this. Fiat is definitely still dying.
Well he’s wrong about a few brands such as MINI for one.
I know their designs have become weirder than they once were. But crowded cities buy their cars like crazy, because of their size and ability to easily parallel park.
Try Toronto Canada for example, go downtown and tell me how many brand new minis you see in one block.
However, I agree Fiat as a brand is going bankrupt, rarely see them around. Alfa Romeo, seems to be doing quite well in my city any way, So i dunno about US.
~40k after taxes out the door for a 100 horsepower electric stellantis product is beyond criminal
@@jordannn392 No way in hell I’d buy any Stellantis vehicle.
@@bodystomp5302 It's 117 horse, and it's the lightest out there, so power-to-weight is probably not as bad as you think!
Thats why they want you to focus on what you can afford per month
In the U.K. you don't even have to pay income tax if you lease an EV. Of course most people choose a Tesla Model 3.
@@jordannn392 the Fiat 500e was created and designed before the fusion to Stellantis. We have been driving the 500e for over three years and the quality surprised me positively then and still today. Better for us then than the MINI in its time. And the optional (in Europe) Level 2 driving assistant is surprisingly good.
$32.5K is just their idiotic list price. In my country they are already selling for half off or have really tempting PCP deals. At that point the car is worth it and I have a feeling Stellantis knows this.
@@ymtzlgn Given how the new CEO is cutting production left and right he does, but i do hope Stellantis and FIAT will fail
That is an absurd price for a car that small. As cool as this car is, it probably wont do well because of the price, and then Fiat is going to wonder why it failed.
And they say the mainly buyers are gonna use the car like 3rd car thats ridiculious 30grand 3rd car 😂 15 grand makes sense
@@salamov963 I never understood what people mean by "third car". Who would use this as their third (or even second) car? Surely you'd use this as your primary car for your commute to work? Other cars would be the weekend/long trip/family cars?
You are correct... that is all
This title is just for trigger us. 32k ISN'T cheap. Here in Italy the car cost 24k euro and that ISN'T cheap either. A cheap car should be under 14k.
its not, its cheap for an EV
@@aznoak China has 10k electric cars
@@CYB3R2K we aint in china
Sad that Doug no longer demonstrates how to get into the second row.
@@jayhtang i was looking forward to that :(
Doug has moved up too much in the world where he can't be bothered climbing into the back; at least he could make Kennan climb back there.
I think he might be injured. He is sitting on a chair for the review.
@@TCKingMusic
Have you tried lifting $37,000,000? Doug's wallet, shorts, glutes, socks shoes and the ground beneath him work overtime
I think he’s getting older
I've been driving a *Fiat Abarth 500* since 2018 and still looks in mint condition and enjoy the turbo every time I go flying in it. Wouldn't trade it for the most expensive sports car in the world.
3:30 In Europe (where side turn signals are mandated) this piece actually is the turn signal.
@@LaurinKramer in corporate America side indicator lights up you!
Why would they delete such a good integrated side turn indicator just for the US market? Dont get it, I bet you the LED´s and wiring is there...
@@Rockport1911 Maybe they kept out wires, LEDs and Chips to safe some money or there are different laws for side indicators in the US and they didn't comply to those rules.
Sometimes America with all its freedom doesn't allow for some things especially with car lights. Remember all the cars with the same headlights until the 80s 😂 or that Matrix headlights and swiping indicators starting small aren't allowed in the US but red turn signals are allowed that can double as break lights.
@@Rockport1911 Maybe an American can correct me but didn't California decide cars now have to indicate by flashing the side lights.
@@MrDuncl i can tell you, canada new cars dont have that.
For examle , those JDM fans will put side turn signal on their hondas to make it jdm.
Its not required in canada
$32k in the US while in Italy it's €20k and can be combined with like €6k of government incentives. Makes zero sense to buy in the USA.
But that's with the smaller, 28 kWh battery!
@anemeth9281 Still makes no sense when competitors like the kona exist. Basically get twice as much with a kona for just slightly more. The interior and size of the 500e is also much worse than a $24k corolla.
@@rokae
I wud buy a new Kona any day! Finally the rear room is great too!
@@rokae You totally don't get it. This is for folks who seek a small EV.
@blownb310 No, this ev makes great sense when it costs about $10k less, which is what it sells for in Europe. That's the price that makes sense. For $32k, you can buy SUV EVs. Have you looked at the features you get on this thing? Not even a mirror in the visor, the nearly same price hyundai suv has way more comfort features.
Doug the type of guy who buys his own Amusement Park and still waits in line.
😂
Thats funny because when Disneyland in Anaheim opened, Walt Disney and his family waited in the relatively long lines with everyone else.
Man of the people
...solely for his amusement
@@lukefrahn8538FIAT 500e performance wise isnt better compared to even FIAT 600 (Seicento).
In Canada they want $43k for it. Local dealer was misleading people with a $33,000 price with $10,000 "dealer discount" , but that was after government deductions, there was no dealer discount at all.
He told me it was the cheapest EV I could get, but when I told him the Bolt was only $1000 more, and had twice the range, he basically stopped talking to me.
Those 500e cars are still on the lot a month later. For 10k less (23,000) I'd have bought it, but not for asking.
A Product Red trim level *and* a rose gold-colored trim level? This is truly the iPhone of Fiat 500
it's gonna come preloaded with Songs of Innocence next year
@@aseheavyindustries798or even pre loaded with songs from PERSONA 3.
@@aseheavyindustries798 😂😂😂😂
Had a an Abarth and loved it. The car had a lot of Tech and really everything i wanted. Kinda miss that car.
7:20 Doug the type of guy to swap famous Italian tenor Andrea Bocelli with famous Italian painter Sandro Botticelli
Fillipo must be proud
He does love curves.
He's an American car reviewer, not exactly the most cultured kind of person
@@lptomtom way to be a nationalist. Ignorance isn't limited geographically.
Bocelli is horrible singer
I miss when one of Doug's signature bits was cramming himself into uncomfortably small backseats like these
The odd plastic triangle coming out the fender is the side turn-signal on EU spec models
The exit song is not deck the halls. It's the last line of "I'm A Little Teapot". More specifically, the line "tip me over and pour me out".
Was just about to post that.
Thank you!
It's kinda similar, but the notes are different. Interesting Europe gets a different exit chime, which is more like a short descending melody.
32500$ is in no way cheap Doug...
If youre a millionaire...
Well considering that’s about the price of a Camry I guess it’s “cheap” but cars in general are no longer affordable
For a new car, offering what it does, it is
HOW MUCH 😂
Have you seen the average price of cars and trucks today?
That little clear fin with the tricolore in it has a purpose: it is a spoiler that makes the airflow rising up the front fender a little turbulent in order to stop wind flow over the side mirror from whistling or creating unpleasant harmonics when the window is open.
It's a side indicator in EU
1) I have a first gen 500e. It IS zippy at low speeds, and is fun to drive in its intended environment (I drive 14 miles to work, my wife’s drive is 5 miles), and we live about 6 miles out of the Chicago city limits. As long as you’re not on an expressway, you’re rarely going over 45 mph.
2) in Europe, there’s an electric variant of the Abarth. If they bring that here, I will move heaven and earth to get my hands on one.
Wait 25 years, and you can import all cars from Europe.
@@aqvamarek5316500e will all be scraped by then 😂 they have tiny battery degrading quick
I commute in mine 30 miles on the highway to Houston. Zero issues, just road noise.
The abarth 500e is like 42k$ LOL
The Abarth version is not that great or exciting, in fact no one here in Europe is buying one
5:56 Slight correction: vehicles don't have to be made in the USA to qualify for the federal EV incentives; they have to undergo final assembly in North America. GM is making a lot of their EVs in Mexico and they all qualify.
It is only new to the US market. It was introduced 4 yrs ago in Europe...
who cares of europe
No dealers here anymore.
@@fredrce
Who cares of USA??
@@anemeth9281the whole world minus North Korea
@@ksavage681 No GM in Europe any longer. They sold their brands to Stellantis who are now making money from them.
The world became crazy if a car that small is considered as cheap at this price.
I was given a 500e as a loaner car years ago. Ever since then I was obsessed with it and hoped that Doug would review one. I still hope that I will add one to my garage because it is a very fun car to own.
Buy one used for 1/4th the price. Value drops like a rock.
I've owned two of the earlier 500e's that were only sold in CA and OR and they are awesome for what they are -- which is a short range two seater City car. Fold the rear seats down permanently, call it a two seater, and there is plenty of storage. We did 29K miles on the first one (2014 model) and now 69K miles on the 2nd one (a 2017 model). Zero maintenance and zero repairs over the 98K total miles other than some upholstery issues on the seats. The electrical stuff is all Bosch. They should have called it the Bosch 500 and it would have sold better. High five to Bosch. The ownership experience was so good that I would consider the new 500e if the deal was right, and in a few months or a year, it might be. The early 500e's were not great as an only car, but they make GREAT second cars. It's really been one of my favorite cars ever and I've owned some pretty nice stuff.
@@Otterbrucemuch like Barchetta sadly.
Cheap?!?! Holy Hannah!!! This thing will be worth 10K in 6 months!!
Lol, yup
So if i wait 6 months im gonna buy it for 10k? Great.
Because I was looking for a 500e for a year now, and the prices are the same....
@@kostis007you mean reality is not what trolls think it is? Shocking!🙃
@@kostis007 Best of luck if you are looking to own one of these. Try to learn from the folly of others who have purchased Fiat's in any configuration.
£11K in two years to be precise. There again, after incentives, you can probably lease one of these for less than the Road Tax on a V8,
Bring back Doug cramping into back seats of tiny cars segment!
I’m in!
In a sunday video, he said his knees don’t have it in them anymore to be cramping himself into back seats. Its sad but i get it :(
In 1979 My sister bought the cheapest new car she could find, a $3000 Fiat 128. It was fun car to drive. The only place that could work on the electrics, was a shop in Salt Lake, Morgan Sports car. A Ferrari work shop. I called it the BUZZ BOX.
I am no fan of electric car or fiat 500s but i think they nailed the design of the headlights.
I had a 2014 500e and I loved it. Lots of fun to drive and very practical. If you look up "peppy" in the dictionary this is what you see.
Fiat 500 was a designed by Frank Stephenson who also designed Ferrari F430, Maserati MC12, McLaren P1, Original BMW X5, and the resurrected MINI
And he has a TH-cam channel
and that guy had liked quite a few car designs of mine..
@@ayushagarwal2103 which one??
F430 and MC12 are still iconic supercar gems till today.
I’ve never understood electronic door poppers. Why have an electronic release when you must have a manual backup release. Just seems a bit superfluous if the manual release will always be the reliable option for getting out.
Manual just works. Why fix what's not broken? And you know on a Fiat, the electronic poppers will break.
It looks cool esp for videos/TikToks
Reminds me of the mid-2000s fad of putting your key in, turning it, and then still having to press the start button
You can open the door with an app. you can also start the airco with the same app. You could not do this stuff "all mechanical". This is a modern car with modern features. Small does not mean cheap...
and where is the manual door backup exactly?
Doug is the type of guy to give his wife a doug score and rate her a 6 in styling
How will she rate in the weekend category?
In bed*
God was too generous when he gave you fingers
@@TheSpiritualsPath Band kid reply
If you want to own one, you are on the spectrum.
If you do anything other than lease one, you are certifiable.
Not gonna lie....it's definitely cute. I love that it's actually small and light (by EV standards). Even if its only 120hp, that could be forgiven given it's size...plus it's an electric motor so it's already orders of magnitude more reliable than their ICE cars.
Donno if I'd pay $30k+ for one though...
Get a used one in 2 yrs time
Its a light weight EV?! Oh No! what will happen when you register this in an anti-EV US state that PENALIZES you for your EV choice, under the guise of 'too heavy=break roads[that they do not fix}?
Sorry man but this car is no means light and specially being more reliable, i know the reliability from the original model isn't great but lol this EV version isn't any better.
We had a 2013 500e and it was a charm in the neighborhood. Sometimes we'd come home with more range than we started with. It was shockingly comfortable too. Bit of a scare picking it up initially though - it's not exactly a highway monster
I still have the original first gen 2014 500e it’s been an amazing, reliable car. It has 90,000 miles and it’s going strong I have had basically no issues. I imagine the new version is the same. Probably will upgrade at some point now that my dealer has some in stock too.
Doug had all the driving enthusiasm as someone describing an upcoming root canal.
Whenever an Italian car comes along with all the (kinda usless but charming) quirks you know Doug is gonna have fun with it
That thing sticking out of the front fender is the side turn signal in Europe. Maybe it does not comply with some US law, so it is deactivated?
Makes sense
Fully legal to have side indicators in the US, many many german cars carry it over to North America, Fiat just decided to cheap out as it isnt a requirement. They probably saved a staggering 25 cent per vehicle by doing it.
@@TheGamingNorwegianJust the assembly would probably cost at least a buck. The light is probably another one.
@@TheGamingNorwegian And then spent that money on the ugly amber side reflectors
That aint deck the halls. That's the end of the jeopardy song/ little teapot song
Yeah, it's not the same notes/intervals as Deck The Halls.
Cheap is what luxurious was expensive 20 years ago, even 10
I calculated for the demographic they are going after it would be about 3000 hours of work to payoff.
Eh…. 10 years ago $35k wasn't "luxury expensive." Even the very cheapest Lexus (the "Prius c with a Lexus badge," the CT200h) in 2014 was $36k, and it wasn't really that luxury. Or expensive. (By contrast, the regular Prius could be specced more expensive than that.)
10 years ago, $35k was "nice medium-highish price".
Heck, *20* years ago the Prius could be specced above $35k (as my 2004 Prius was bought for $30k, because we didn't bother with the extra $5000 that only got a couple fairly-useless extra features - HomeLink garage door control (no garage,) a tape deck (and theoretically better speakers,) and a navigation system that would become laughably outdated quickly; which it was.)
I had to reread this twice but I 100% agree with you
And again here we have people not understanding the concept of inflation.
@@Xzibitfreek Every time my wife and I go out to eat the last couple years "man, it's so EXPENSIVE!"
Yes, that happened.
You know what else happened? Our paychecks went up.
In the olden days, Doug would always get in the back seat. Bring back back seat Doug.
It's almost 40k for under 200 miles of range. That's absolutely insane.
No it's not anywhere near $40-k. Did you used to skip math class? You can get one for $30-k and then $1-k off from the state.
@@blownb310 don't think you need a math class to read bud. It starts at 36k for me
You can buy used or new Tesla Model 3s for the same money or less! Normal size, massive space, real range, real speed. This is ridiculously placed.
More is not always the goal…
Doug, Andrea Botticelli (f) is a Canadian pianist... Andrea Bocelli (m) is the Italian tenor you're thinking of...!!
Missed opportunity with the front 500 badge. They should have added the "e" under the second zero as an illuminated badge. So when the lights are off, it's just as it is now, 500. But with the lights on, that "e" lights up to mimic the 500e badge on the back.
This is why these companies won't hire me. I'm too smart!
Doug is the kind of guy that cuddles with an Owners Manual during bedtime 🛌 😮
He reads the owner's manual to put his kids to sleep.
I miss when he did the owner's manual bits.
@@drunkenhobo8020 Me too!
😂😂😂😂
I've been waiting for you review on this, I knew I wanted it but now I gotta have it! Thanks for the review !
$34k?? No, thank you
29k = no thank you, 34k = F&3k you.
I agree.
@@anemeth9281 $20-30k = no thanks, $34k = FU. The audacity of this price, it’s a little bit mind boggling.
Even 20k is crazy for this small ev shitbox @Fuuntag
@@grimmerjxcts2206 yeh, I’ve actually been thinking about this all morning. I would have loved to be a fly on the wall in the meeting where this was decided.
"Made in Torino" - the previous 500 was manufactured in Poland ;P
35k ish MSRP is not cheap.
When you're Doug DeMuro anything less than $100k is "cheap".
The lease deals Fiat will inevitably offer on these will be “cheap.”
I owned a 500e (previous gen) for almost 5 years now, and I can say that it has been a great daily commuter, saved me tons of money in gas, specially since I used to daily a lifted truck. And they are actually relatively fun to drive, pretty zippy and quick off the line. Love pissing off V6 Mustangs at the light because it takes of pretty quick and leaves them behind for most part until the speed limit is reached. With some coilovers and better tires you will lose a bit of range, but it becomes a lot more fun to drive and toss around.
We have had one for about a year and 7.000km. It is a decent city car, but the rear hatch is wrongly designed for the convertible and it is not s well made vehicle. But it is big enough to offer four seat for adults to drive around the city, while the trunk is just big enough for normal shopping. Parking it is always a joy, due to the size.
My guess is we will not keep it in two years when the lease runs out.
It's telling that the only tool underneath the trunk floor is a tow loop.
What tools do you expect? A threaded tow hook is included with virtually every new unibody vehicle.
@@morstyrannis1951 a spare tire would be nice
As someone who doesnt care for EV's, I don't hate this. This is kinda what I always thought electric cars should be, small grocery getters. Now it would make more sense if it was 25k cheaper.
Anybody else watch these videos with no intentions of ever. Buying most of these cars just cause doug is so entertaining
I think that description would fit most people, unless they're considering buying dozens and dozens of cars a year.
I watch them from Europe with fascination. I am waiting for the day when Doug describes a BMW X5 as a sub-compact.
Probably the last bargain EV was the Chevy Bolt.
$27,000 MSRP.
249 mile range (has no problem doing a little over 300 miles with mostly city driving).
Plenty of interior room.
More power available compared to the Fiat 500e.
Qualified for the $7500 Fed Rebate.
This Fiat 500e is just overpriced for what it is.
Equinox EV? It is more expensive but it’s also bigger with more range and it still qualifies for the tax credit. The Nissan leaf is also a bargain imo it just isn’t a great car unfortunately.
Agreed great car.
This is actually a good looking car though. The Bolt was absolutely hideous, especially the psuedo-SUV EUV thing
Doug the type of guy that thinks the ending of "I'm A Little Teapot" is "Deck The Halls."
$34k, NO way in hell! Nothing over $25k!
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My daughter has a 2019 1957 Edition 500C and we love it. She lives in Astoria, Queens and it’s the perfect city car that she can park just about anywhere. I would absolutely buy an Abarth one however I have zero interest in EV’s and I cannot give up a manual transmission. I have heard that they may start selling ICE versions as well and I certainly am hoping so
very glad they reintroduced this to the U.S market - seemed like it was ahead of its time a few years ago but would fit perfectly in the current lineup of econo-EVs
You would think 120HP and the lightest car in its class would actually make it somewhat sporty, especially considering that electric cars tend to be faster off the line in general! Would love to know what the 0-60 time is, if any!
I live in Greece and the other day after a year of owning mine, I measured it with Dragy and it repeatedly did 0-60mph in 8.01 to 8.02 and 0-100kph (62mph) in 8.49 to 8.50.
The 1/4 mile was also very repeatable at 16.02 to 16.05 @86mph. All measurements were done in two ways , starting with 70% and ending with 60% battery charge.
Mind you I own a 3.8 sec 0-60 mph car (a tuned 440i BMW) and the Fiat feels pretty swift and absolutely sufficient in town driving. I needed the smallest possible "proper" EV for a daily commuter and the little Fiat is brilliant.
Doug the type of guy to buy a fiat 500e because it’s cheap and charming.
Cheap and charming is a metaphor for strap and alarming.
We had a 2015 Fiat 500 Turbo. Stick shift. A blast to drive and had so much character. We just loved it. This one looks fun too!
That little plastic bit sticking out the side with the Italian flag is the side turn signal that is required in Europe, but not the US. I guess for US cars, they don't bother installing the light.
I work at a Fiat Workshop in Germany. For the People wondering the clear thing sticking out of the front fenders is actually the Turn Signal for our german Model/Euro Models.
Here in germany the entry trim has Halogen Lights in the front even the Turn signals but still in the same housing as the LED ones. Looks very cheap
and in the base model you dont even have a Radio in the Car/Display in the middle.
This car looks like it should be 10/15k at most. 34k is insane for a fiat 500 😂
I mean, I get your point, but if you are out to buy the biggest spec sheet for the least amount of money, you will end up with a soulless BYD. For many buyers, a car is about more than that, and this car has a 14%+ market share in the A+B BEV segment in Europe. The price tag is obviously fine since it is selling like hot cakes.
It's a fair price for this car.
@@SpoooferThe price is fine if you’re living in Europe. Seeing as how this video is quite literally American, and nobody is buying these because there are better options, your point is not valid at all.
That’s ridiculous, $15K MSRP gets you a bottom of the barrel Versa or Mirage. $34K is a little high but you’re crazy.
@@bjthedjdutchdude1992- not in the USD market.
A few design observations. 1) A missed opportunity to use the translucent plastic {the one with the flag} as a side marker repeater. 2) If you remove the stem and the stroke (the vertical and horizontal lines) of the "5" in the 500, you get 3/4 of an Audi. 3) A horizontal cutout in the cupholder in the shape of the "0" in 500, which can double as a phone holder when placed in the slit.
@@Harry_Vardanyan The 'flag' is a side indicator repeater outside of the US. I wonder if positioning conflicts with some US specific laws?
In 7 years Tyler Hoovie will buy this for $800 and then sell to the wizard.
Jajajaja
… who declares it totaled.
With an LS swap
I haven't seen such a quirky and interesting car for a long time! It is shame that US infrastructure limits this car to be a city-town car only and that FIAT entered your market with that model only. We use them and other new FIATs as a normal cars. Can't wait to see a new Abarth btw)
Cheap in terms of quality? Yes. Cheap in terms of price? Nope.
He said "relatively cheap"
You can get the tax credit on a lease! I just got quoted a $70/mo lease, tax included, in Colorado Springs, CO. First payment only due at signing, absolutely insane deal if you're in Colorado! I saw tons of Cinquecentos in Milan and Como when I was in Italy last week. Pretty cool that these are made in Italy unlike the previous Mexican-built gas 500's. I wonder if the Abarth version is coming...
15k max. 32k is a crime for this. Fiat is really trying to die
No kidding. This thing would sell pretty well if it was 15k
What decade are you living in? You can't get any cars for $15,000 in the USA. Even Doug's much-hated Mirage is over $16,000.
@@drunkenhobo8020 That's fine, they can keep it. Just like all the dealer lots in North America, full of cars that they can't sell
@@NeptuneSega $15-k? You are delusional. The average price of a new vehicle in the USA is over $48-k! WAKE UP!
@@blownb310I am awake, and so are many. Go down in the comments and see how well received this car is at this price point. Are you delusional?
I will admit this will definitely be more reliable than than the ICE version. It definitely is a good looking car.
32k being considered low end and cheap is a true sign of the End Times
I hear the end of the Jeopardy! theme, not Deck The Halls 🤔🤪
It's a good fit for NYC.
Um, no. Everybody left NYC. The only ones that stayed are the drug addicts.
@@bigmacdaddy1234and looters
Doug, thank you for not calling it a frunk. I hate that word
This is definitely NOT cheap or affordable! Especially given how much more this costs over the standard 500
This is the standard 500 in North America, there is no ICE version.
@@damilolaakannithat doesn't mean a lot cheaper 500s don't exist. 34k is a rip off. They arent selling well in Europe, so they ship them to you I guess. Value has always been the most important thing for FIAT buyers. Just know it is more budget brand than Honda or Kia.
@@damilolaakanni Oh really? I never realised that; I'm from the UK where the ICE version is still being sold.
That ICE version starts at £16,800, while the electric model starts at £25,000. And I've seen two year old examples of the electric version for just £12,000, despite covering only under 6,800 miles.
I don't know what it's like in the US as there's a lot of cars out there that we don't get or never heard of, but electric cars generally take a huge battering in depreciation here. I've seen some cars tank half their value in just four months and only 1,000 miles covered.
@@AHYL88 Electric vehicle is more expensive to buy than an ICE vehicle. Shocking news story at 11:00
The exit sound on our 500e La Prima is a sad sound as if the car is sad you are leaving :) Sounds like the door sound the "Hitchikers guide to the galaxy" oh I forgot it also makes happy sound when you get in and plays a classical music when you start driving from the outside to warn others I think...
The doors have a latch on the lower side for manual opening
The handle area is for the key fob
The protrution on the front end is one of the signal lights on ours :)
Ours also have a third door :) You seem to be missing one on the right hand side ;)
It is a very fun car to have and I am pretty much a gear head. Great city car and everyone loves it in our household.
In Sherpa mode it will do 300kms in city limits the car at 80km/h. for highway driving and I drive it like a mad man It does 175km Thats doing max speed when ever possible...
Fast charge it will do it in 20 mins from 25 to 80 percent
Also you seem to be missing the moonroof. Yeah looks like US got the low tech versions... Sorry....
Actually Doug, that's "Joy to the World." that plays when you shut the car off!!
That is not Joy to the World either!
@@PeterChampagne It is. I'm a musician. I know!
@@charlesyoung9980 clearly not a very good one. It isn’t. It is neither deck the Halls nor Joy to the World.
It is not Joy to the World.
It is, however, the ending to the Final Jeopardy theme.
@@fluffycritternow THAT makes sense.
What makes it even more fun is a glass sunroof or a convertible version or even a 1+2 door version….not to mention the noise making Abarth versions….all versions we get in Europe. But they are also crazy expensive
I was thinking this car would be perfect as a $13,000 car, but $32k is absolutely insane. Imagine spending $600 a month for a secondary car 😂
It’s junk inside and outside
Drove a rental one in Paris, France for a couple of hours and it was surprisingly good. Quiet, fast and comfortable. It was a pleasant experience to drive such a small electric car in that chaotic city.
For $35,000 you can buy a Prius/Prius Prime and go 400+ more miles
You could buy a pink bra for it too.
This is not for those people, this is for young ladies with generous parents that will buy it as 1st car.
This is a city car for rich people. They dont want a prius.
@@Poatan.chama. Because they wouldn't want to keep being asked "is this my Uber ?"
We were one of the first to receive one in Italy when it came out and wondered when Doug was gonna get to review one. Todays a special day!
Who is this for? The base Model 3 is $35,000 plus the $7,500 tax credit. Far more range and practicality for cheaper.
Imagine making a Tesla look reasonably priced by comparison.
With Stellantis, anything is possible!
Wouldn't be caught dead in a Tesla, even if it was free. Non starter.
Wow if that's true that completely negates this car.
@@blownb310yeah but you sound like someone who wouldn't get an EV in the first place. (Neither would I), but for someone who is shopping an EV, why would anyone in the US consider this tiny car with no range, over a Model 3 that would end up being like 8 grand less?
It's for the female dogs and probably to comply with some kind of laws
OK Doug...been watching for many many years. Yes, I subscribed so keep on posting good stuff my friend!
The hybrid 500 starts at $22k while the 500e $29k in the UK (prices converted) - no thank you!
3:08 the little panel that sticks out with the Italian flag that doesn’t do anything is actually what would be a turn signal indicator for the ROW markets (ie Europe).
Mercedes 500E would like to have a word with this little thing
Tuned by Andrea Bocelli? Is this Fiats way of leaving the US market like Doug predicted? “Time to say goodbye”
😂😂
I like this and the mini cooper for making more expensive nicer small cars rather than just budget stripped out models like the mirage. Some of us live in cities and having a small car is super handy but don’t want a bare bones budget car
I could watch your vids all day!
Doug. the kind of guy to use a electric ball cooler fan under his seat because SD summer are a little toasty.. 14:49
Anyone who thinks maintaining an electric car from Fiat is going to be cheap is in for a wake up call
@@Breathtaker5000 I bought a used 2017 500e and in 5 years I’ve had to 1) buy 4 new tires 2) windshield wipers 3) headlight bulbs. That’s it. I was worried before I got it but it’s been a dream.
No nonsense. Easy to operate and drive. Definite buy - with a 10K discount.
Doug is the type of guy to call a 32,000 dollar starting price "cheap"
closer to $40k after taxes, random dealer fees, and no tax incentive
In 2005 one could get Fiat Panda diesel for 1/4 of the price of this 500e. The Panda diesel has around 700km of range on single tank. This makes it usable for even long, cross country trips. And having doors for passagers in the back, as well as more headroom for them, it's quite reasonable for 4 adults to travel. It's possible to travel with 5 adults but that's hardcore.
I get this 500e is for vastly different consumer. But it's insane for me how far we fall from having a great choice in actually affordable new small city cars. Toyota Yaris was another example. And people are still driving those little people movers. They love them. Very cheap, simple, quite reliable.
Doug's the type of guy to read an owner's manual to his kids as a bedtime story.
We shopped this car before buying a Mazda MX-50, we got a much better all around vehicle for less money. Both have low range but if you don’t need it, you don’t miss it.
Is that flag on the side of the car a side turn signal in other markets?
yeah im pretty sure it is in europe
Yes, but it has an integrated turn signal, as turn signals on the side is required in Europe.