World exclusive test of a sensational new 'flying' electric boat | €290k Candela C-8 sea trial | MBY
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ค. 2024
- Is Candela’s ‘flying’ C-8 the craft that will finally take electric boats into the mainstream? MBY is the first boat magazine in the world to test this revolutionary foiling machine...
Candela C-8 specifications
LOA: 27ft 11in (8.50)
Beam: 8ft 3in (2.50m)
Draught: 1ft 8in-4ft 11in (0.5-1.5m)
Displacement: 1,605kg (3,539lbs)
Motor: 45/55kW Candela C-Pod
Battery capacity: 44kWh
Charging time: 13hrs @ 1x6A, 2.5hrs @ 3x32A
Top speed: 24 knots
Cruising range: 21nm @ 14 knots / 51nm @ 4 knots
Passengers: 8 including driver
Starting price: €290,000 (ex. VAT)
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Very impressive technology, especially seeing the comparison over washes with the camera boat.
Great insight into the build as well.
Thanks Hugo 👍
Cheers Nic
A very exciting development. The ability to plane if the sea gets too rough, but to have effortless efficient foiling in the kind of conditions most users would put to sea in, makes it worth pursuing. And I guess that once fully on the market they will implement lots of other refinements.
70 nautical miles for a 290,000 EURO boat? And one that when it hits a wave, must stop and restart its journey... Good technology but very impractical...
Genuinely very impressive 👏👏👏
Certainly the future of "A to B" quick navigation on water.
Don't think you could actually sleep on it in its present form. That carbon really does resonate sound.
Brilliant boat and concept.
Love it, good job ✌️
Great concept, can't wait to see it go on sale
Hi Hugo, great Hugo great what a show you give us this time with this beautiful Candela C-8 not only the sea trail but also a peek inside the factory, But stunning no big prop wash on de back of the boat or disturbance in compare with the camera boat only 3 lines of the foils great Thanks Hugo this is super
Glad you enjoyed it. It’s an amazing bit of kit.
Can't help but wonder what happens if you strike something submerged, a log, rope, whatever.
Пиздец будет машине боевой, как впрочем и любому плав средству налетевшему на скорости на бревно или зацепившему трос движком, кроме водометных им трос не опасен
Amazing thank you!
My pleasure
Hi Hugo, thanks for a really fascinating presentation
And thank you for watching
Looks Great
Very impressed with the almost zero wake. André in Sydney
Remarkable. Without having to drive a hull through the water this has to be mega efficient. Way to go
Great video
Cheers
The ride comparison with the chase boat alongside crossing wakes was telling (albeit not quite as dramatic for the chase boat as you surmised), but I really loved the shot where you're cruising along serenely and a small boat or PWC behind you was bouncing up and down.
Awesome tech! And of course, as battery tech and supply improve (which they're bound to do due to economies of scale as the motor vehicle fleet is electrified), either the cost will go down or the range will increase. Or both.
You claim that supply will improve and price will therefore go down. What do you think is going to happen to the demand side of batteries in the upcoming years? How do you estimate that will affect battery prices? The price for battery raw materials have already multiplied in the past few years and the number of EVs sold has been pretty low so far, nothing near the projected sales amounts in upcoming years.
Then what about political relations with China who control the majority of all battery raw materials, what might that do?
And what will we need electric boats for if they even increase the biofuel content of gasoline and diesel to 75%, let alone get them to fully non-fossil content? Who is going to pay and how much for electric boat charging stations? What will the ecological impact of that be?
@@pistonburner6448 atleast one person gets it ha! electric motors on water will be and remain toys. thats it. you cannot be tethered to a charging station on the water every 10 miles! and the range is so bad on this thing im shocked anyone is dumb enough to buy it. then again, take it out in 3' chop and they wouldnt sell one of these contraptions.
Awsome, i want one :)
Very Very impressive , great improvement from C7 wich was already surprising
Awesome
Simply amazing! How do they manage to retract the foils? Is it pneumatic? Is it a rack and pinion sistem?
I think this is the future and when production is developed, we may soon see lower prices, wich will allow more people to afford this or something similar. :D
There is a N Irish company already building foiling ferry and work boats using these principles. The future is already
here.. and Candela are already working on an enclosed 14 seater bus version.😎🤞🏼
@@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 There have been foiling boats, yachts and can we actually call some of them ships (?) in use all over the world for well over half a century...
@@pistonburner6448
Yep there's a historic documentary on them on U tube
Its advantages it offers with electric power and high performance pod motors that they come into their own.
I love the look of the Russian volga hydroplanes ... The problem has always been the high power and noisy and thirsty combustion engines used diesel and gas turbine being used to date.
I think it will only be a short time before the military want their own stealth versions..
Meantime the beauty is in that contra rotational motor.
@@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 You're writing absolute nonsense. Those ships and boats with internal combustion engines are not noisy nor thirsty. And how is "high power" a problem? Have you even ever been on a hydrofoil ship? I have been on those Russian hydrofoils too.
Your praise of contra-rotating motors, even though contra-rotating propellers are nothing new nor significantly better is also very strange. I'd like to also hear what exactly you claim are "the advantages" of electric motors, and what you base those claims on. What on earth are "high performance pod motors"? High performance compared to what?
@@pistonburner6448 Clearly you're clueless. If you don't understand how an extremely efficient high torque, low noise, low vibration, and small size electric motor is superior to a noisy, stinky, vibrating hunk of last century's technology that requires frequent maintenance, then you're never going to understand.
Lekker man lekker 🇿🇦
This will bring both a lot of attention and innovation to the whole electrified marine sector - can't wait!
Amazing. They should put solar panels all over that front to give you a few more miles and charge when you are a dock without electrical connection.
You might fit 300 watts of panels on the front. For a 40kw battery you would need 122+ hours, or with 6 sun hours a day, you are looking at 22+ days.
Yeay another Hugo review and what a fascinating video it is, superb innovation 👍👏👏.
I was watching and wondering if a hard top with a wing like profile to provide lift would do anything for range, maybe with an airoloron at the back of the hard top working in conjunction with the airfoils 🤔🤷.
I hope they ask you back to view the finished product, really interesting boat. 👍❤️🇬🇧
Me too!
*Great! Now just add solar on the next version!*
WOW. If I had the money.... When I get the money ... :)
Amazing technology and looks incredible on the move. I cant help thinking this tech could also bring a lot of benefits to ICE powered boats but I know that's not the point of Candela. Great review thanks !
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I'm an ardent environmentalist and our motorboat is the last fossil-fuel-burning object in our possession, so am super-interested in Candela. We do our boating out of Vancouver Canada, mostly around English Bay and Howe Sound, which frequently get pretty rough and have regular crossings by huge car ferries going 20kt that kick up a really major wake. I couldn't really bring myself to pull the trigger on buying one of these until I could actually take it out in our local conditions and see how it performs on a rough crossing. But I'd sure like to.
Would be fun to have the motor completely separated from the foil structure, to have a 360 degree rotating Azipod system on a little boat!
People talk as if hydrofoils are something new.
They were used as passenger ferries on Sydney Harbour from 1965.
They were replaced by catamarans, which are slightly slower, but more energy efficient.
No wake ... that's cool af
Gåshaga❤️👍😊
Incredible. Candelas commitment and willingness to rethink traditional components is admirable. The industry could use more designers and engineers like this. Candela seems like the Singer Porsche of the boat industry. Thanks!
how many person she can can cary?
I look forward to seeing the early adopter bobbing around at Hamstead Ledge having unwittingly used up all their range blitzing it down from The Hamble in an effort to get to one of the fabled lunchtime (book early for 2023 to avoid disappointment) slots at The Hut Colwell Bay. Remember to pack that 5hp Seagull Silver Century in the lazarette for emergencies
Seriously though, we’re into the Tesla world of the mid Tweenies. Range anxiety….. whoever cracks it will have a winner. Foiling is growing exponentially and whoever cracks it will be mining gold. You only have to look at the “Axopar Effect” for bringing a whole new family grouping into boating. Direct entry into the premium world is what many people want - and they won’t know what a Seagull outboard is/was…
Chaps, I will watch with interest 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I wonder if we can cross the Atlantic with it ????
Looks like a XO 240 Open..
What is he talking about? Using 1 point something kilowatts kilowatthours? Do they ever learn this stuff =) Nice video tho, and super nice and innovative boat!
That’s what it uses per nautical mile
Great video.
Based on the KW consumption, you could easily add a small diesel genset to extend the range if ever needed.
Certainly interesting to hear your excitement about these Hydrofoils. I'm sure you are aware that Very Large Hydrofoil vessels were used in Sydney, Hong Kong and other places as high speed ferries, since the mid 1960s. I remember riding in one in the 1980s (I'm not from Sydney) as a tourist and was impressed by the smoothness and speed of these craft. Its a shame they retired them in the early 90s....no idea what they have now. Basically, these "New" hydrofoils are just a modern rehash of quite old technology. But nice to see again, no idea why they went away in the first place. Interestingly, one of the companies that made the Sydney Hydrofoils in the 1970s was called
Cantiere navale L Rodriquez, Messina....funny how Cantiere and Candela sound similar....I wonder if they........☺
Cantiere means shipyard in italian so "Cantiere navale L Rodriquez, Messina" is just the name of the Italian shipyard in Messina that built them ... There are still hydrofoil ferries around in several parts of the world including Europe. It's not that hydrofoils are new but the computer guided, electric implementation and doing it in a consumer boat is.
@@BilldalSWE Yes, that is the meaning of that Name. Interesting that the Swedish name for their company, also starts with Can (as in Candela). Interesting No?
HOW MUCH, i'd want a bit more thought to go into it's looks for that much cash, i'm sure it's all very clever but that is big money for this.
True (new tech is always expensive at first), but don't forget that the "fuel" and maintenance costs will be much smaller.
@@BillWalkerSD Really? With my EVs and PHEVs I'd _never_ own them without warranty in place to pay for any and every repair, and my insurance providing a loaner vehicle while they're possibly waiting over a month for repairs... The EV stuff is really expensive to fix when they go wrong. With my electric cars one needed a full cooling system failure fixed, another had its charging module fail and need replacement. They would've bankrupted me if I'd have had to pay for them myself! In both cases, even though from major automotive companies with many service centres in the capital city area I lived in it still took about a month to fix in both of their cases!
Meanwhile with my ICE cars in the past 15 years of driving I've never needed any repairs (except one 12V socket fixed), and a simple, cheap-as-hell service every 2 years which was done while I wait and sip some nice cappuccino and sit at my computer...as I'd do anywhere else. Candela says their boat should be serviced(/inspected?) every year.
With ICE cars I didn't have to pay the massively higher prices of an EV, didn't have to pay thousands for a new charger at home, then again at my summer home, and if EVs aren't forced on us I won't be burdened with my share of the TRILLIONS in costs for rebuilding the grid and more TRILLIONS in costs for the manufacture, installation, upkeep and periodic replacement of millions of chargers! Then probably TRILLIONS again to manage the millions of tons of problematic, hard-to-handle and difficult-and-expensive-to-recycle old batteries we'll be faced with. Plus the costs and consequences of cleanup when inevitably people won't take care of them properly as they're so expensive, difficult things.
Very clever, high tech, I just can’t think why I would ever want one?
Seems to be very cramped headspace inside, and you have to be hunched over while sitting to avoid hitting your head.
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i want one. let me know when they are like 60k.
Be honest Hugo, how many times you text Jack a selfie asking him if he was jealous. Obviously he got to test drive the Axopar 45, but that's just a bigger version of an existing platform. You are breaking new ground.
There have got to be some advantages of being the editor 😁
@@hugoandreae3785 Plus, when push comes to shove, you can put him in a rear naked choke hold until he taps out. I mean, you wouldn't do that because you're friends and colleagues, but if Jack steps out of line, 'Qui audet adipiscitur' and all that. I'm just kidding. I miss Jack on the channel. I had rather hoped you all would have done your end of year boat picks again. Maybe next year with new faces.. Alex having a camera person has done well for him. His review of the Ryck was done quite well. I like him and his honest approach. The other one you had...hmmmm. sorry. Wasn't a fan. But that's alright. No video is ever made for me alone. Great work Hugo. You looked like a kid having fun on the water. Testing the future
What happens when the foil hits seaweeds at full speed?
This is "Tomorrow's World" and you are like a 21st century Raymond Baxter.
How abt if hit a tree stump or big debri
U can do 23 Knots in a No-wake zone
Or 30 in the finished production boat!
@@hugoandreae3785 those guys at P[redacted to save my face]er Sailing Club will still give you a seriously grumpy look regardless. Though it might be fun to watch….
@@PhilbyFavourites Even better!
If it will have a hard top with solar panels and/or small vertical wind mills, it could be very valuable in an emergency situation with the additional range it can offer.
Make a convertible top version with ac
I bought a C8. I will be extremely happy to share my experience with both the boat and the company. Please do not hesitate to contact me for an exclusive feedback.
Needs backup prop
If that all in one wing hit something it’s gone
I could see military uses
Absolutely fascinating to watch this so many thanks Hugo. I suppose the main problem with this technology will be how to actually charge it. I am sure many boaters like myself rent or own a swinging mooring in an estuary and don't have access to marina facilities so the infrastructure will have some catching up to do. I am sure though in time we will all be foiling away on our sports cruisers! I do still like the look of the Saxdor GTO though.....
Not ideal for a swing mooring but most marina berths have power supplies, unlike most car parking spaces!
This is the mini version of Boeing Jetfoil.
Первые подводные крылья описаны в 1869 году французом Эммануэлем Дени Фарко в патенте
Tech is like 90 years old but electric
40-50 mile range boat for $300k. lol. and you would have to run at speed on foils to get that range.... and you can't fill it up if you need more range... and you need to get probably a 30 or 50 amp circuit to your dock.... and decent wake/waves and it will coem down and be unusable. plus probably a bunch of things i havent really thought to much about like getting maintenance at the marina.
i look forward to electric boats, but it is still a long way off unless you are in a very specific circumstance. hope they keep at it to have something compelling in the future.
...and it's a horrific earth-destroying eco-disaster with the massive batteries!! Most probably from China too, replacing domestic energy products and killing our economy while propping up that evil regime...
@@pistonburner6448 don’t say that, the Greta cult Will come after you
What happens when you get weed wrapped around the foils?
@@cordobes Depends on whether weed is legal where you are..
395K USD is still high but the technology worth it. It is NOT a boat, it is a flying vessel and thus need to be used differently. No trolling as an example and no "pass me the beer" type of approach. Fishing? nop. Flying attracts many, but it is not for many.
i like this but 50 miles is too little
Impressive tech and performance...at $300k, too bad it's just for the one percenters.
What is the range? 300 miles? 400?
Talks about it mid way through the video
This makes any boat with a big Mercury on the back look very outdated! I like this new two-handed presentation format; having a separate camera operator makes it much easier for Hugo "Again" Andreae to present the content so well.
Still the one with Mercury is a hell more fun
Renewable energy ✨️ fun and relaxing at silent speed wow this boat is awesome 👌 😀future ✨️ hopefully try slow anthropogenic extinction down??? Humanity #science #renewableenergy #buzzofftoxic #TIEDAMEW
How long till your stuck in the middle of the ocean with that 290K electric motor?
Not to mention the absolutely epic boat fires we're going to have with these things!
Why not remove the hull of the boat? I mean the black part. It seems to almost touch the surface and it disturbes me.
not sure foiling really suits a sports boat. Tenders, taxi's, a-b travel, yes.
poor seacows.
290,000 Euros.... Do I get carbon credit?
Unlikely, because you’ll rock up with your wife (significant other etc) four kids and a dog driving your JLR Discovery. Carbon credits would be the last thing on your mind.
It may well stray across the mind of your early teen children… until you tell them what they will have to go without!
For polluting the earth with the production of those big batteries?
Would have liked to see a review with 4+ grown men and some gear on board. Dont think it will handle much weight.
Still prefer roaring 450 outboards
Does this thing have powerful cooling and heating systems for the battery? Because we know that when the battery gets out of its optimum operating temperature the consumption skyrockets. And if the battery is very cold or gets too hot then charging will slow down to almost non-existent until the battery is at good temperature again. Cold can easily damage the battery, and we've seen from automotive applications that cars without powerful temperature control systems see their batteries wear out very quickly.
How do you heat the cabin, with a separate diesel heater? Because heating the cabin with electricity would be incredibly wasteful and would kill the tiny range it already suffers from.
Foiling makes sense, but the electric part doesn't. Especially with the amount of use most boats get, big batteries are far more environmentally destructive. Electric boats make no sense.
It's so easy to just increase biofuel content into our diesels and gasolines (which already do have 5-10% biofuel content) or blend in e-fuels, then eventually get to fully biofuel or e-fuel use. I'd love to install a CNG system to be able to fuel up with somewhat better-than-fossil-gasoline natural gas or even better use super eco-friendly (theoretically actually CO2- _reducing_ !) biomethane in that system. And no need for massive, extremely problematic and ridiculously expensive batteries. No need to spend billions and emit all that CO2 in building a massive charging network either.
$350k for a 22foot Boat. No wonder Europe goes "down"......