National Rubber Powered Model Airplane Contest/Flying Aces Club 2023 Non-NATS
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- This video presents some of the activities from the Flying Aces Club 2023 Non-NATS. The FAC Non-NATS is a model airplane competition for free flight models held every other year in conjunction with the FAC NATS which are held on even years. 59 Contestants participated in a variety of events this year including both scale and non-scale rubber powered models. You can learn more about the Flying Aces Club here: flyingacesclub.com/
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My dad introduced me to this hobby whilst I was growing up in the 1960’s. His dad introduced him to the hobby in the 1930’s whilst he was growing up. Sadly, I am now 64 and none of our children or grandchildren has shown an interest in making model airplanes. I’m hoping I can get my 4 year old grandson interested when he’s a few years older👍 Thanks for the video and the memories of my dad 🙏🇬🇧♥️
Thanks for the summary of your hobby history. My dad also introduced me to the hobby. We have a few kids flying with us. But I've come to accept it may not be a hobby that lasts forever. I run a model airplane program at my local middle school to share and promote the hobby. But at the same time, I plan on continuing to enjoy the hobby as long as I can. Thanks for watching.
Wow, the caliber of those models is outstanding.
What a great video , its been 50+ years since I made and flew one of these , I might even have a go at one again ! . Thanks for bringing back some great old memories .
It's a fun hobby. Lots of really nice laser kits available now. I say give it a go! Thanks for watching.
That is what this is a bunch of old people trying to recapture the past.
@@thomgizziz and boy do we have fun!
Great video, glad to see the hobby is still around. I worked for the Peck-Polymers company for 23 years up until when the original owner closed the doors in 2006. Sadly, I can recall we rarely saw a customer under about 40 buying from us. Most of the kids nowadays don't want to spend the time and effort it takes to build a rubber powered plane.
My compliments and admiration to the participants at this event.
I'm good friends with the current owner of Peck here in Connecticut. The company is still going strong. We all do our best to encourage younger people to participate, but in the meantime, we're going to enjoy the hobby for ourselves until the end. Thanks for watching.
It isn't going to be around for long by the looks of it.
@@thomgizziz That may be true, but it will be around for me until I'm unable to build and fly. 🙂
I wanna try experimenting with a 3d printer in vase mode to make it easier
@519CZRacer I was there in the mid nineties a few times. My Gee-Bee R-1 impressed Bob and I gave it to him. It sat on top of the filing cabinet. I was in my mid 30s then.
This is awesome. I remember building planes when I was young. I love the people are still doing it. What a cool event, and the planes look fantastic.
It's a great hobby and we have lots of fun. A great group of talented people. Thanks for watching.
Nice coverage. Great to see all involved!
Thank you Duke. We have a microphone mitten to help with wind noise for next year. Thanks for watching.
Awesome , New hobby to me , Thanks John Koptonak 😊😊
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
In the 60s used 😢To be in the back of a magazine and build it yourself and they worked pretty good
Great video John! All the models being judged in static look beautiful
Thank you Lindsay. Hope to see you and Rita there next year!
@@Watchingthevideos99 we will see you next year!
Hey thanks for showing your Video, cool. Dont pay any mind to these sad sad video critics , the ones that cry the loudest cant produce anything worth watching anyway
😂😂😂 Thank you Nick. And yes, I try my best to grin and bear it. Just trying to share my hobby, but I'm not a pro at this video thing. Thanks for watching.
Looks like fun! Thanks for the video.
You're welcome. Thank you for watching.
Just awesome.... can't skip the streaming for a while kept glued to it till the end.
Absolutely incredible work! Thank you for posting.
Thanks for watching!
Great to see all those planes. Nice to see this hobby in 2023. I remember my brother buying and building a kit when I was a kid.
It's a fun hobby and there's lots of great people involved. Thanks for watching.
What happened to the four-engine B-24 @19:55!? 😅 The twin-engine DC-3 landed perfectly! 🎉
The B-24 landed fine. The pilot was waving his arms to let the timer know it was down. The twin is not a DC-3 but another airliner. Thanks for watching.
a pleasure for the eyes. it's my pleasure too like the old CB see outerzone ;-)
Great group and really enjoyed hearing about all of the airplanes. I had delivered an airplane to the museum and got to see all these high performance rubber powered models.
Thank you Matthew. Was that you in that beautiful Beech Staggerwing?
Very fine video! My compliments to all builders, fliers, helpers and all others who made this event happen!
Thank you so much and thanks for watching!
Great videos! You are a real pro!
Great video and some amazing models!
This is amazing! In the early 1970's my dad and I built a rubber band powered P-51 and some kind of high-wing tail dragger, the make and model of which I do not recall, but it was a gorgeous model. I remember spending hours in the backyard, winding those rubber bands (by hand!) and flying those models into the tall grass. This video brought back some wonderful memories from my childhood. I'm very glad to see rubber band powered planes are still around.
Great story John. Sounds like you had some fun with your models. The hobby is still going and we have a lot of fun at this event. Thanks for watching.
@@Watchingthevideos99 Thanks for posting this! And kudos to the model builders! Those are some gorgeous planes and the craftsmanship is incredible.
Great video, thanks for posting!
You're welcome, Dan. Thanks for watching.
Great to see all the different winder setups especially the torque meters. I think the mass launches are really exciting, you never know what's going to happen! I even recognised some of the models from other videos 👍
It was a fun event Cliff. Had a great time with lots of talented modelers.
That's got to be one of the COOLEST events I've ever seen. That's including Top Gun and Joe Nall events. Beautiful models some even case worthy.
Some talented modelers for sure. We have lots of fun. Thanks for viewing.
I think I fell in love with rubber powered free flight planes
once again
Glad this was motivating. Start building! 🙂
Do much fun I always enjoyed building those things I never knew anybody else got enjoyment out of them but me and my grandpa
Check out the Flying Aces Club website. They have a map of all the club chapters. There may be a chapter close by.
Great Flights.
I’m more of an RC pilot these days, but this video brings me back to the early days with my Guillows models when I learned how to climb every tree in the neighborhood!
And we're still climbing trees. 😂🤣😂😂😂
Cool that looks like a fun get together and the models are beautiful thank you for sharing.
Thanks for viewing. We have lots of fun.
Crazy, I couldn't stop watching! ❤
Thanks for watching!
GREAT Scenes from the Non-Nats!!
Thanks for watching Jeffery.
Some great models and challenging conditions, thank you for sharing
Thanks for watching. A fun week of free flight flying.
Those biplanes are brave facing that wind! Great stuff... all of it!
Yes, many decided not to fly. Those pilots were brave!
Something very charming about this hobby and it's enthusiasts...hats off to the superb craftmanship.
Thank you. Yes, a great group of talented people. It's always fun to get together and fly. Not only for the modeling aspect, but the social aspect as well. Thanks for watching!
Love the interviewer asking everyone how their model is going to do!!
😂
3,2,1 CHAOS!
😂😂😂 indeed.
This video is thrilling to see! What a wonderful opportunity to see great flying (and building).
Thank you for watching.
Hey Thanks ABSOLUTELY breathtaking loving every minute of it. REALLY ENJOYED THIS VIDEO
You're welcome and thank you Bill. Sorry it's a bit on the amateur side, but I'm just a retired guy enjoying my hobby with friends. We sure do have a lot of fun. Glad you enjoyed my video and thanks for watching.
NIIIIICE 👌🏻
Thanks for watching!
Looks like good fun. Shame about the wind in the beginning. Thoroughly enjoyed that. We never grow up do we. Keep em flying and more enjoying. All the best from Kent UK 🇬🇧 😊
The wind was only an issue on the first day. Sorry I didn't have a microphone mitten, but I do now! Yes, we sure have fun. Thanks so much for the comment and for watching.
this wonderful stuff is pure art work, pure genius, tremendous creativity, DiVinci would be so amazed! I wish that I were as talented as these great people!!
Yes, some talented people for sure! Thanks for watching.
Elastics, Gusts and Funny Hats ... That's Jazz Man 🌻:) Cheers from Germany
It's a fun time. Thanks for watching!
thank you so much for sharing this video. i am in awe.
Thanks for watching!
I never seen this much rubber excitement!
This video soars. Nicely done!
Thank you and thanks for watching!
Organized frustration.
Never ceases to amaze me.
Love to build the things.
It is a challenge to find a way to complete them at times.
Loved and still do love Walt Mooney plans.
Make em as shown or blow them to the size you like.
It's a wonderful hobby. Build on!
I can't even find the rubber here in Canada . I would have to order it out of the US. Iv'e opted to design and build my planes for capacitor power . I find it amazing though ... you guys .. and gals .. getting 6 feet of stretched rubber into an 8 inch long fuselage . Amazing flights man !
We have a lot of fun.
VERY VERY NICE !!!!
Thank you, and thanks for watching.
I'm happy that people still do this. Kits used to be everywhere.
Joe, maybe smaller in numbers, but we sure still have a lot of fun! Lots of small kit manufacturers online with some quality kits. Thanks for watching.
@@Watchingthevideos99 I'll have to look.
Peck Polymers, Volare Model Products and Easy Built are a good place to start, but there are more. Have fun.
@@Watchingthevideos99 Thanks. I'll follow up on those.
Thank you, I thoroughly enjoyed that as a novice model maker it was an enlightening video.
You're welcome. Have fun with your projects and thanks for watching.
Fantastic thanks!
The amount of work that goes into building a 'stick model' airplane is daunting..I have a 'stick and tissue' model kit of a Piper Cub that I started and got halfway through, put it aside and never finished it. That was more years ago than I care to admit. Therefore when I see these works of art it is just amazing.
Yes, these models certainly do take some time and effort. There are some nice kits available these days with laser cut parts. Maybe you could give it another try? It's a fun hobby. Thanks for watching.
Finish that Cub!
Wow. The rigging to get free flight .... amazing.
Have you noticed there were no children around? This is a family event and we have to promote that way and invite young children, schools, stem teams to learn and never forget how it was in the begging. ❤
Hi Richard. There were children there. A young fellow up to visit his grandfather from NYC and he was flying a model. A local grandma brought her youngest grandchild to see some of the warplanes. He was gifted a little easy-to-build model that he immediately started flying. There were also 2 boy scouts up from Maryland for the 2nd year in a row. very impressed with their focus on learning from the experienced builder flyers. There were a few young adult flyers, but certainly not enough! We do wish more had been done to promote the event locally and I believe more locals may have brought their kids. The flying was impressive. Thank you!
One of the best free flying models videos I 've ever seen, I'm very amazed,I enjoyed very much. Thanks.
Thank you so much. And thanks for watching!
@@Watchingthevideos99 Any site to get such models plans???
Yes indeed. You can get lost at Outerzone. Over 14,000 plans. outerzone.co.uk/
Also be sure and check out the Flying Aces Club website. flyingacesclub.com/
This is absolutely wonderful to watch
We have a lot of fun. :)
Amazing great job guys
Thanks for watching.
👍👍👍this is cool as hell
We certainly have fun. :)
Great models, I would love to have been there. Keep it going and upload more videos, thanks. (I almost didn`t bother watching this, far too many adverts at the beginning).
Thank you, Ken. Sorry, I have no control over the ads. We start our 2023-2024 flying season in October and hope to post more videos of our flying antics. Thanks for watching.
Kool stuff
Thank you. Thanks for watching!
Very nice! My grandson Steven flies his Thermal Dart at 29:40! One super-generous member of the club, Doug Griggs, took Steven under his wing and showed him how to greatly improve the performance of the model. As a result, the last few flights of the day were spectacular. Another club member, George Bredehoft, gave Steven a 10:1 rubber motor winder! Thanks to Doug and George and the entire Flying Aces Club for making July 14, 2023, the best day of our summer! Here's a short video I made of our day: th-cam.com/video/y9CSCMJUQWc/w-d-xo.html
So glad to hear that! It's a great group of people. Plan on attending with your grandson next year! thanks for watching.
PROPER model aeroplanes !
Thanks for watching!
I wonder if you had two propellers one with thrust clockwise the other counterclockwise you have a rubber band as the plane flies when the rubberband runs out it starts spinning it the other direction so now the rubber band is Twisted the other way and then you have a clutch or something that kicks in causing the other propeller to start turning the other direction
What beautiful models! (good video ma'am!) they are all a bit mediocre about it, but we as spectators think this is all beautiful!
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I myself am just a little more into radio-controlled airplanes,
BUT I certainly don't mind seeing this!
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it is also good that the youth are taken along and that they are encouraged.
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Healthy and Friendly Greetings from the Netherlands!
Rob
Thank you for the comment Rob. I too fly a bit of radio but my passion is the challenge of a stick and tissue model. Thanks for taking the time to watch. John
That kid’s (30:00)enthusiasm is so heart warming…😂😂😂
Wish we had more kids in the hobby. This hobby has given me so much over my lifetime. The ones that do get involved really enjoy it.
In addition to rubber powered or glider models, were any models powered by Jetex solid rocket motors? I use to fly very basic versions of all three when I was a kid in the early sixties. The Jetex fuel may no longer be available?
There are events that Jetex could be flown and occasionally you might see a Jetex powered scale model. But there were none flown this year. I believe there is someone making a new fuel for Jetex engines, but I don't have any details. An interesting aspect of the hobby for sure. Thanks for watching.
Amazing craftmanship.
Yes indeed.
So cool
Harder than building those planes is finding a field like that.
Even harder than that is being able to gather in that field.
Last Xmas I took my nephew to a empty parking lot to drive his r/c car and within 10 minutes had armed intervention "Deputies" asking what we were doing.
I can't believe they flew those in that wind!!
That first day was tough. I managed three flights with a peanut with long chases. The remaining days were much better but we did have a thunderstorm pass one afternoon.
Now I want to know how they are made.
I have several build videos on my channel. Several other really good channels out there too. Thanks for watching.
Where do you get the models that WILL FLY?? I just looked and didn't see any with "rubber powered" to fly.... I'd like a B-17...
A good majority of the models in the video were built using only plans. There are several companies that sell kits. Guillows did offer a kit for the B-17 but I believe it no longer does but you might find one on Ebay.
That looks like the Olympics of rubber powered models! Does anybody know anything about the Harald J Towner models? Any experiences that can be shared? Thank you for posting!
I'm not familiar with the Harald J Towner models. Are they free flight scale models? When were they produced? Thanks for watching.
@@Watchingthevideos99 They were designed from the 30's to the 70's in Britain. Some were sold by Astral. I believe all were free flight with rubber or i/c engines. On outerzone, searching for "Towner" all the models come up.
I have a personal attachment so I am trying to work my way through them. It is work for decades, but building is fun!
OK ... I have not flown a rubber powered plane in 40 years. I remember winding one I built too much and it literally collapsed the plane ... too much tension. I see these rubber bands very very long. How come they don't bet too tight and brake the plane. Some of the planes look relatively fragile! A second question ... some of the planes have rubber bands in the wing pods ( the two and 4 engine planes) ... how? Would the rubber band not be very short? Is there a web site that you can point me to that explains all this? Thanks! Awesome video!
The hobby has evolved quite a bit over the years with several factors improving performance. Models are built quite light these days so small cross section motors can be used with less tension. The rubber itself has been formulated to have excellent energy properties. Long motors are used and the rubber is braided to shorten the loop length to a reasonable amount. This braiding also allows for a long loop of rubber to be used in a short nacelle like on the B-24 Liberator. You can learn more about the Flying Aces Club at their website flyingacesclub.com/
Many other TH-cam videos on this topic. Also, some great laser cut kits available. Check out some here. www.wind-it-up.com/
Thanks so very much for all the info! Tomorrow I will be 61 .... definitely getting old. That said, I am starting to pick back up some of my old hobbies. I even found a much of my old U-control motors (cox 049 .. enya 15 ...) .. though I would probably just get dizzy and fall over if I tried that now. I use to love building balsa planes ... I can still remember the smell of dope filling the basement air. Very few more satisfying things than to wind up a plane and watch if fly around a field. Definitely something I will look into . Thanks again so much for the info! @@Watchingthevideos99
@@xtalvt You're welcome! It's a fun hobby and if you can connect with one of the Flying Aces chapters, you'll get lots of help. We're generally a pretty friendly group just out to have fun with model airplanes. You'll find a map of club locations on the FAC website. Have fun!
WWI planes are fantastic
Like the Tigercat too and the Cessna 310
Some very talented modelers for sure.
I want to do this so bad. I feel a little young for this; in my 20s as we speak. Currently trying to learn how to build and fly via a guillows kit and a p30 kit.
Martin, we do have younger people involved in the hobby and we'd enjoying seeing more! You're off to a good start building Guillows and a P30. You might see if there's a Flying Aces Club near you and try and hook up with them. There's a link in the description and a map showing all the clubs. Thanks for watching.
There was some guy with two giant rabbit buck teeth and a stovepipe hat but unfortunately he didn't make it into the video. His model aircraft was the Caproni Ca.60 Noviplano.
That would certainly be a winning subject!
1:59 Now, if you just had a REALLY BIG rubber-band... :0)
Indeed. 😂
Back in the day my dad said they would put castor oil on the rubbers for lube. Does anyone do that?
36:42 What sound card are they using on this model ? It sounds so real 😄
😂😂😂
It’s too bad it was so windy! Too much for those beautiful delicate models.
Really only the first day. By the third day, it was fairly calm. But the heat and humidity was really tough to deal with. Thanks for watching.
Should try putting a piece of foam over your microphone to eliminate the air noise
Thanks for the tip. I'll give it a try. On my handheld camera the two microphones are just under the lense so it may be tricky.
I think I'd be using a cordless drill for winding!
certainly a good way to go!
Bad idea. You need to feel the rubber.
If you held the winder in one hand and wound it with a cordless drill in the other hand, would the hand that is holding the winder not feel the tension developing in the rubber band and thus provide that feedback?
Wait, this is an actual thing?? I make rubber band powered planes as well but never heard there were actual competitions.
Check out the Flying Aces Club! flyingacesclub.com/
unintentional asmr gold
When I was young, this would have filled an expo center.
Fokker Dr1, Fokker DVII, Pfalz D12, Sopwith Camel, Sopwith Pup.
Too windy unfortunately 🤷♂️
Yes, the first day of the meet was quite windy. I think only half of the contestants flew the WWI event because of the wind, including me. Thanks for watching.
Sounds like a wind not conducive to small freeflight models!
Yes indeed. The first day was tough. But conditions improved quite a bit over the next few days. But it sure was hot and humid!
Why doesnt anyone use a cordless drill on their winder? Would that not be much faster way to wind them up?
Some do use a power drill, but most use the mechanical winders. It gives a better feel of what the rubber motor is doing. And using the mechanical winders is not all that hard to do. The torque on the rubber goes crazy high when you get close to the breaking point, and you'll feel that with the mechanical winders. This prevents a lot of pilots from breaking the motors which is not a pretty sight with these models. You don't get that "feel" with a power tool. Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching!
I fly RC planes but I'd like to try that!
Give it a go! Check out the Flying Aces website. There's also some really nice laser cut kits available these days. And with your RC experience, you'll find free flight easy to get into and offer some new, fun building and flying challenges.
These models look very realistic what's the best place to buy them ?
Many of these models were built from plans. You can find 100's of plans here for free: outerzone.co.uk/index.asp
There are several places on line to find kits, here are a few: www.wind-it-up.com/
volareproducts.com/wordpress/
easybuiltmodels.com/#gsc.tab=0
@@Watchingthevideos99 thanks very much ! maybe very useful information for many
@@BHARGAV_GAJJAR You are welcome.
Well... I saw 1 young person... that's better than none.
There's actually a few and a couple of them are pretty tough competitors! Thanks for watching.
No compressed air event? Remember air is always there!
Wow, you fly compressed air Paul? Cool. They are usually flown the power scale event. You might see the Taube floatplane in the video. That was flying CO2 for power. A few years ago a moder had a old school compressed air job with the plastic soda bottle in the fuselage. Pretty cool stuff.
Would it be cheating to run a generator with a rubber band and use an electric motor?
Not sure how efficient that would be but give it a try! The Flying Aces Club rules require the models be strictly rubber powered. There is an event for powered models that use electric, gas or CO2 motors.
What, is it against the rules to use an electric drill to wind those things?
Some do use a power drill, but most use the mechanical winders. It gives a better feel of what the rubber motor is doing. And using the mechanical winders is not all that hard to do. The torque on the rubber goes crazy high when you get close to the breaking point, and you'll feel that with the mechanical winders. This prevents a lot of pilots from breaking the motors which is not a pretty sight with these models. You don't get that "feel" with a power tool. Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching!
@@Watchingthevideos99 Sweet! Thanks for sharing this information!
What a bunch of kooks! Where do I sign up? I thought the door mats in the tall grass was brilliant.....and then I noticed the labels left on so they could be returned. That's 'next-level' stuff. Some real beautiful planes and incredible fliers. With that wind and tall grass you're really taking chances with a camo paint scheme. Thanks for sharing.
HA HA. We do have a lot of fun. For the record, we did end up taking the mats home and gave them away to friends. This year we have an outdoor carpet to use instead of the mats. Check out more about the Flying Aces at the website. flyingacesclub.com/wp/ Thanks for watching!
@@Watchingthevideos99 This really takes me back to my childhood in the '60's. There used to be a big park in my neighbourhood where guys flew FF and control line models and I remember the same sense of awe. Been years since I built balsa models, but I clearly recall the sweet banana smell of the clear dope we used to shrink the tissue. I'd love to attend one of your meets, but unless there's a FAC chapter here in Chinada, these video's will have to suffice. Looking forward to your next.
Who are you people! I want to play too!
Kevin, check out the Flying Aces website and dive right in! . flyingacesclub.com/
Very Nice Video🙂 ,but the Audio is Something to work on😉,may be externall Mic
Everything is facinat😅ing and interesting
Thank you for your comment. This is strictly an amateur production. Much of the video was taken while walking around and participating in the event over the four days. A simple handheld Canon camera was used, and while it could use an external mic, it would certainly require a bit more planning, I walked 17.5 miles over the four days and my focus was more on flying that videoing. Just for fun to share with my friends and flying buddies. I'll give a microphone a try and see if it's doeable along with my modeling items I'm also carrying around.
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Electric winders are not allowed...or are they just undesirable?
You see them occasionally John. But many modelers like the "feel" of the mechanical winders so they have an idea when the torque of the rubber rises. The rubber motor torque goes up a lot as you approach max winds. So many develop that feel on the hand crank as you reach that max point without breaking the motor. Some do wind with torque meters too. Thanks for viewing.
@@Watchingthevideos99 Thanks for the good info...:)
You're welcome John.