Torture-boards, Plugs, Varnish! (Traditional Boatbuilding / EP97)
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- Rebuilding a historic sailing yacht - Torture-boards, Plugs, Varnish! (EP97)
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EPISODE 97
In this episode we work towards sealing up the timber of the hull, inside and out.
First we varnish the interior of the boat, using a traditional varnish that should hopefully hold up for decades. Then we get a serious workout with some good-old-fashioned “torture-boards”, we glue and trim plugs, and we get a little closer to painting and moving the boat. We have a bit of a change of crew as David and Rowan head back to the East coast, and we get some great help from some local guys. Meanwhile Pancho delights in a game of hide-n-seek.
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97. Torture-boards, Plugs, Varnish! (Traditional Boatbuilding / EP97)
Can you PLEASE take a high-res picture of the inside so we can use it as a wallpaper? I mean goodness the wood work and the bronze look so gorgeous especially after the varnish!
Amen for this.I'd like to buy a print
It's bordering on erotic it's so gorgeous.
Yes, for me too. An amaising Project, follows since 1st Video.
I Love wooden Board especially Pilot cutters
Sail on the Pilot scooner Elbe, ex Wanderer (50 south to 50 south) in Germany.
@@davidellis2021 A ''scratch and Sniff" version is coming out soon.
Definitely, I'd love a poster shot of 5:27!
Ahhh nothing is better than hearing "Hello my name is Leo and im a boatbuilder and a sailor" after a long day at Work! Love your videos!
Clark: “You may remember me from exciting episodes like ‘Grinding Bronze’ and ‘Grinding Bronze’”. That’s pretty funny stuff, flyboy!
Yeah, Pete being sarcastic about varnishing being where he really shines, was hilarious aswell! Great episode.
Would have been even more hilarious had he said "Grinding Bronze" and "Grinding Bronze, the Sequel".
@@ariesdane5876 Grinding Bronze 3: Electric Grindaloo.
Reminds me of Ron Swanson
I presumed this was a Troy McClure reference or whoever that character was taking off
The inside of the hull is such a thing of beauty. How do you not just sit and stare at it all day?
I do large projects, and yes at the end of the day I bet sometimes they just stare at her!
Goodbye Rowan. Your infectious smile will be greatly missed. Godspeed. We wait on the widow’s walk for your glorious return 🥲
The coolest guys out of the crew for sure! I
The volunteers have all been awesome.
Rowan's a bundle of fun :)
Bye Rowan all the best, your sunny disposition and mischievous sense of humor will be missed.
Not your t-shirt tho. Made my eyes in.
I have watched and enjoyed it right from day one. I think this is the greatest project that I have seen in my 84 years and I will continue to watch and pay for however long it takes. I would like you to stay where you are but I have digested the problems you have faced and realized that a move is your only choice. Leo...keep up the good work. You have proven that you can manage and foster lasting and productive friendships and the future is yours.
Leo, on the teak - get in touch with the USS Iowa Museum. They're in the middle of a $5M re-decking of the battleship, in teak, of course. They may be able to give you some options.
This is a good suggestion.
Wow, that would be great !!
@@icarus877 I haven't. I'll give it a go.
Awesome
Wonder if it could be reclaimed... How cool would that be, to build the deck out of the reclaimed boards of a USN Battleship!
Goodbye David. We’ll never forget you and your port side 🤗
That shot of the inside rivets and frames all varnished looks beautiful.
H.R. Gieger museum looking PG version.
Looks like the belly of the beast. Tally Ho is coming alive.
for me its the same with woodn planes when the are strung transparent, or when i sit in an old gothic church with all their curves and pillars , love it, tally is a beauty
RBC 58 I agree 100%, what eye candy!
Almost a shame to cover over. Outstanding job to all who lent a hand in this.👏👏👏
Sharp tools cutting wood like butter and leaving a shiny finish, that's concentrated satisfaction right there.
What it's like to be old' well I'm 64, still at sea as a skipper, and every day hurts. I make a noise getting up off a seat, and also sitting back down 😅 life is short my friend, non of us get out alive, enjoy every second if you can, fair winds.
You must go train some crossfit. I'm the same age and have no pains and aches :)
My wife's aunt spent her final years in what then was called a "Rest Home."
She had a boyfriend there who once told me, "At my age, almost everything hurts. And what doesn't hurt, doesn't work!"
I think of that man often these days....
You're not 'old' until you stop doing things for the first time and start doing things for the last time...
@@mikeskelly2356 I can still do most everything I could at 30, but now it takes a few days to stop aching after I do these things. 😄
I'm that age too, but a lifetime of hard work took its toll. I physically could not do longboarding due to repeated rotator cuff injuries. Them's the breaks.
The finest of detail, craftsmanship, careful planning and fairing that has gone into Tally Ho is really satisfying to see. Remembering the words of Francis Stokes. “The sea finds out everything you did wrong."
Pancho is going to miss everyone terribly when you move on away from your hosts. Project is making amazing progress. Thanks for taking us all along.
And we will miss Pancho. I've never had a bird for pet, but he's fascinating and fun to watch. I understand that they are very long lived.
@@charlesmuchmore1402 some live like 80 years, i just hope it's not too hard on him..
@@beeestuff9819 *her
Yep cheese burger 👍
Not if she "stows away" on the ship when they move.....
Bird?.... What bird?.... I didn't see any bird....
i think Pete shines at everything even talking to the camera these days
This is probably the only YT channel that I spend as much time reading the comments as I do the video. What a bloody awesome group 👍
Ditto. The comments are at least half of the fun of watching the videos.
This is more than a restoration of a boat. It's a work of art.
I live near some of the Devon (England) wooden boat builders. Previously it really interested. Leo, crew and Tally Ho have shown me what I’ve been missing.
Hopefully the wonderful Cecca will be back soon. We all miss her.
They didn't call it 'Art' in 1910 it was called a work boat not a pleasure yacht club.
It's not really a restoration, more a new build!
@@allenschmitz9644 When such builds were more common, I can understand how people would just see it as the run-of-the-mill. However, for a lot of the subscribers to this channel, who've never seen the construction of a wooden boat like this, let alone any boat, this one is being built with pride, finesse and just share elegance. Therefore, for me and many others, it's craftsmanship at a different level.
@@allenschmitz9644 You are wrong. Tally Ho always was a pleasure yacht. Furthermore working boats were never built with this level of exquisite craftsmanship. This rebuild is a work of art indeed.
When I started watching him rebuild this rotted out boat I didn't expect this.
Yes, it's been amazing. :)
When I first saw the boat, along with how young Leo appeared, I thought he was way over his head. I very quickly realized my assumption about him couldn't have been more wrong.
Now, in addition to the satisfying progress and technical details, we get a bonus: the sheer aesthetic pleasure of the finished hull, inside and out. The wooden boat, one of man's most beautiful creations.
Yes, I echo the other comments. Goodbye David and Rowan. Rowan was a surprise to me. He became such a long lasting part of the team. When I first saw him, I doubted he would last. Just goes to show! I think he is probably a gentle soul, and people like having him around. Can't ask for much more than that from anyone.
The parrot is a real character. He will miss all the activities and his new friends.
"He" is a her.
She is a Macaw
She belongs to Leo’s hosts, sadly, so we’ll all miss her when Tally-Ho moves. She’s a real character to be sure.
@@robm.4512 Leo mentioned she might come along to Port Townsend though.
@@ShamWerks I missed that. Good news if it happens. I hope that the hosts make a guest appearance at some point.
I have never been more enthralled by any subject I have zero knowledge of before, I know nothing about the craft of boat building, but the work I have seen during this restoration looks like it could not physically be done any more thoroughly.
Leo, you deserve all the future joy of sailing Tally Ho. ⛵
Thank you Leo for showing the world and the you tube community a good and proper way to build a wood boat that will last generations. Some of the saddest videos I see are those of people spending years to build their boats with substandard materials thinking everything will be fine not realizing the dramatic effect it will have in the life of their boats. The true cost of a boat is not so much in the materials but in the labor to assemble it. You are showing the world a masterpiece in creation. Well done sir and I hope to see you in port townsend some day.
Your videos verify my 45 years as a carpenter and makes an old man very happy.
Thank you David and Rowan for your humor and hard work! Best wishes in the east coast and maybe see you again on the channel!
IDEA! - Make a Tally Ho T-Shirt (current channel icon of the Tally Ho) on T-Spring. Teak is then paid for!
+1
My whole sailing club would.buy those tee shirts.
"Light tap."
"Let's buck that!"
I can only imagine how emotional Tally-Ho's maiden voyage will be. Love the chisel work...Chisels are perhaps the most useful hand tool ever created. My gramps made me learn how to properly sharpen my hand tools. 40's vintage Stanley sweethearts are my faves.
Rowan...it feels that way when you are old! Enjoy your youth! You and David will be missed here! Best wishes to you both!
I've watched this from the start and it NEVER ceases to amaze and astound me. It's really looking incredible. Thanks to all of you wonderfully insane people.
And now Leo has a desk with a plant sitting on it. Quite the journey.
I remember when he was all alone removing the keel, amazing to take that on by yourself.
It’s a shame you have to move. You really seem to have a great setup there.
The glow inside the varnished hull is so incredibly beautiful.
Leo doing 15 hours of video editing per week on top everything else... All of these people work so hard; physically demanding work. Leo though; I don't know how he's able to do all the things and for so long. It's mind boggling.
30 Hrs.
If you love what you do you won't work a day in your life. Except if you are a boat builder, then you will work ALL the time forever. Honestly though, I think it is Leo's passion that does it. That was what captured us all and then we got to learn a lot along the way.
@James Lawson Yeah, understood. I've also done both types of labor/work and many things in between, as well. I shoveled mountains of horse manure on Saturdays for pocket change when I was 12 years old to buy art supplies, when I wasn't under my dad's wood boat on my back, on the gravel covered hard, painting the hull bottom with antifouling paint in the spring, mowing lawns or helping dad do carpentry projects or whatever. I've made art, design, photography, video shorts and music, built furniture, computers and guitars... much of it professionally... multiple college degrees from very demanding programs, etc. THE POINT: Leo clearly does Herculean amounts of physical, intellectual, analogue and digital forms of work, seemingly indefatigably. Leo also clearly loves what he is doing. It's extremely admirable.
And the office spotless, complete with plants😂
Most people don't consider their own labor when they would set a value to paper on her. If Leo missed out on 3 years wages while restoring her, well, don't sell yourself short.
I find it difficult to find appropriate adjectives to describe my admiration. Huge thanks to your volunteers from all of us that can only watch from afar. All the best and hope to see you soon again.
Taking notes..."a long board is essentially a long board". I'm about to start my own build so these are pearls. Been following from day one. Best vlog on TH-cam!
Either you will grow to love the long board and therefore boat building, or not be a boat builder. Long board can be as simple as a piece of Plywood with sand paper glued to one side and a couple of cleats glued to the other.
Me too! Followed since episode 6???
Do not underestimate how ridiculously sharp those chisels are....
Throughout this project I’ve been impressed every time a chisel is in play. I feel lucky if I can just put a decent edge on my mower blades.
Pete is getting a lot more comfortable in front of the camera - nigh on garrulous! It’s great, he is so knowledgeable on his subject(s).
I don’t know much about boats but She is beautiful!
It's almost a shame to cover it all up.
@ David, Leo does need an over zealous crew member to polish BRONZE 😉
Yip defo
I've been watching this series on and off for a couple years, but recently I decided to binge the whole series and get fully caught up. Now this is the first episode I actually waited for the release of, and I'm so pumped. Here we go babyyyy
I did the same a couple weeks ago. Now the 2-week wait seems like a year
I always love the organized massacre that is Leo's hair
Hi, my name is Leo and I'm not a hairdresser. :)
many comments on Leo's hair . he wears it how he likes good for him
Pure gold! I chuckled for five minutes after reading this. 👍
At 9.13 when he is talking about fairing, or something that I never seem to understand but which is so watchable, if you look at the picture of Tally Ho in a glass frame behind; Leo's hair and the sails appear to have the same profile. Amazing.
He is English, and that is a complete look over there! It was in the US for awhile (there was a product called "bed head" back then. The English are 100% more fashionable than the lazy look of Americans all in yoga pants and cargo shorts LOL. So you laugh at his hair, I laugh at the comments because they say more about the people making them than they do about Leo's hair. His hair says "I don't care about how my hair looks" but it IS a cultured look. The comments say "I have never been to England before" LOL.
I can't help think how hard this is going to be on Pancho.
She's the one girl who's been with Leo through it all.
Aside from just looking fantastic on the inside, I'll bet the aroma is something else. I wish we had 'smell-o-vision'.
VARNISH...there you happy.
Looking absolutely stunning with varnish on it, and this is "just" the structure. Love watching this come together!!
One of the few channels i could watch a 3hr long video and still wish for more, your work is that good.
Going to miss those two young fellas, wishing them the best. I never thought I would enjoy watching someone build a boat but wonders never cease, thanks Leo.
All of your crewmen have done such Han awesome job on Tally Ho! They dive right in on any project you assign to them, without any reservation nor hesitation: a true marks of an amazing and awesome crew!
I also understand the role of the leader of any project, they set the tone of the work: moment by moment. A fair, honest, competent, kind and fun leader is awesome to work for. I do not mean someone that doesn’t requires and ensures honesty and integrity from each crew members. If a mistake is made , own up to it and if the mistake is found out and not known by the member it’s how the leader handles the issue.
You, Leo are the leader that I’m talking about above. You treat all with dignity and respect in every conversation you have with all. You never forget that they are human and a workmate when taking with them. NO Drama, is an great skill set to have and you have it!
Many work decades and Never learn and acquire this ver important skill set and my friend, you have it!
Really like what you and your Mates are doing with the boat!
The skills and the hard work together is suck a Hallmark of great people and you and they have it!!
Well said.
The worst part about these episodes is when they end. Because I immediately jonesing for more.
The launch party is going to be something else. So many people, invested in every way, in this project that it will be great to see them all enjoying the result.
Best wishes David and Rowan maybe we will see you lending a hand again, the varnished planks and frames look beautiful, I’m sure a still photo of them would sell like hot cakes.
I am an old person that has long boarded. It is just like having your shoulders grow older. Great to see your progress. It is a privilege to be a fan!!!
Boat builders should have a Chiropractor on the team. Pains happen far less when everything is moving as it should and you perform better.
@@davidelliott5843 A physical therapist would be better.
“I am an old person that has long boarded. It is just like having your shoulders grow older. ” Don’t you just get sore muscles from longboarding? Overhead press (the weightlifting exercise) can give you quite some interesting DOMS as well. Somehow the pain from deltoids is just especially sweet.
I ran a 40lb Rockwell grinder for Ingalls shipyard in Pascagoula MS. Overhead and sometimes on stilts. After 6 months I was called popeye as my arms were as big as my legs. My neck is what gave out first.
I loved the inside view with the varnished timbers with all the rivets. Being a part time blacksmith I really appreciate all the rivets.
Pete has such a good presence in front of the camera now, I really hope that when this is all over, in two years, he will allow us to follow him as he works on other projects.
I remember when the boat was coming apart and I thought it would never get this far so great job everyone.....Leo seems like a grateful boss ,and a good teacher..
Pete has really warmed up to the camera! Which is great, since he has a 'boat load' of knowledge!!!! Leo... How about another video on getting your chisels razor sharp???
Norton waterstones, 1000 and 4000, followed by stropping with compound. 5 minutes.
Hes got a Tormek T8 with a 250 wheel and a leather wheel
Goodbye for now and huge thanks to David and Rowan, two awesome crew members. When you get home you can use that joke,,,, I just flew back from Sequim and boy are my arms are tired!
Rowan definitely deserves credit as an apprentice shipwright.
hey clark of corse we remember you, you are a legend in the polished bronze community
Thanks Leo! We're coming close the end of this chapter and it's been an absolute joy seeing how this project has transformed and improved throughout the years. Cheers to the continued success of this project!
WOW! The interior of the hull looks amazing and the exterior is coming along nicely Leo & Crew. Sad seeing some older crewmates leave but good to see a few new faces as well. I really hope that you can get the wood that you need Leo. Everyone be well and stay safe! 👍👍😊😊
David and Rowan 👍🏻 I think the attitude and work ethic you guys displayed will make a resume that speaks for itself. Btw as a old guy it does suck getting old but you just learn to use the knowledge you have gained along with the cash and pay you pups to do the hard stuff.🏴☠️
I can't wait until they trailer the boat back to the boatyard and see the look on their faces when they see Tally Ho in all her glory!
There is only one word to describe that varnished hull and frames and that is SEXY!
It just looks so beautiful inside!
I had to come back to older episodes, especially this one with all the gorgeous interior. What awesome work was done by these fine people. This is much better watching than most of what is on offer on commercial television. My guess is I'll return many times to these videos.
Great to hear “Home Sweet Home” through the video. One of my favourite Flatt & Scruggs tunes 👍
Welcome back Clark, good to see you.
I wonder if being put on the torture boards was payback for the comment you made ages ago about Leo drinking coffee while all the work was getting done?😁
Long boarding is the WORST job in boat building, in my opinion. It's "torturous" on your arms, back, neck, hell, it hurts everything.........
I feel so bad for Pancho. I’m sure she will miss having you all around when you move Tally Ho to Port Townsend. You need to get a Parrot of your own now Leo. After all, what kind of Pirate would you be without a Parrot? Tally Ho looks incredible. All of your hard work and attention to detail has really paid off. It’s been a blast watching you all along. It’s made me think about all the years that my Dad and I worked on our boat. She was a 1969 35’ Pacemaker Convertible Sedan. She weighed close ton15,000 lbs and we sanded and painted her many times over the years, and had so much fun, even though it could be hard work at times.
i understand the long lived birds are very demanding pets. so having the crew working there provided some entertainment for Pancho. allowing the owners a break from being Pancho's constant entertainment. i may not have this right if not please comment .
Sad to hear that the parrot wont be joining you when you leave this place. To me she seems to be a part of the project and the boat by know as I have seen her so much in the videos. I also think it would be appropriate to commemorate her in the build with a circular parrot plaque made of bronze or whatever...something nautical. In any case parrots have good memory and it would be a good idea to give her a visit once in a while if she cannot join you in the new yard :P
Anyways I like the project and everything I have seen so far :)
Leo ..... Pete’s competence and confidence along with his obvious professional boat building skills must bring you a lot of assurance that you have a ‘second you’ on the job whilst you are tied up in the office with the ‘have to’ jobs.
Pete, you're getting so much more comfortable in front of the camera - good for you! I see a fine future as a TV game show host! "Welcome to The Boating Game, I'm your host, No Feet Pete!"
Move over Aaron Rodgers, Pete should be the next Jeopardy host. "I'll take wooden boats for 200 Pete"
I'm just a guy on the internet, but holy crap, I'm stoked about this boat. Watching it come together has been awesome.
I worry about Pancho. For several years there's been a lot of activity going on around her. When you move down to the boatyard, all that will stop. I worry that she'll get bored - a bored maccaw is a very sorry maccaw.
But she will always remember the experience of Tally Ho!
I will miss her so much!!
I've been sad about that too, pets are often the ones most effected by change, and the least thought about. I'm certain the person who complained 1,000 times about the boat never thought about the effect it would have on Pancho, yet it still happens. On the bright side, that complaining neighbor complained about Pancho shouting, and now that social macaw is about to start screaming for attention 24/7 without Leo. Oh the sweet irony.
Just love the ball pein hammers you use. My dad who is long gone was in aviation and I grew up with his long handled hammers. My late and dear friend Dennis was a marine engineer a true “boiler maker” who crafted stainless steel boilers for steam turbine driven liners and ocean going tankers left me his short handled ball pein hammer exactly like what you guys are using....I am truly chuffed to own it now...it’s not a freak!
Pete keep honing your presenting skills I'm sure you will be able to have a successful TH-cam Channel after this build I will Subscribe boats looking great Regards From Liverpool England.
Hello,Leo and crew. What a magnificent job. I’ve watched you from the beginning and looked forward to every episode. I’m 70 and just hope I live long enough to see Tally Ho launched.
You and the crew are a pleasure to watch and a breath of fresh air.
Good luck with everything you do. Keep up the fantastic work , see you next episode. 👌👌🤞🤞
Sometimes it is a bit sad when these episodes are over. It is so very enjoyable to watch this amazing progress. Big hugs to David and Rowan headed off - we will miss you. Good luck on the timber search Leo!
Cheers David and Rowan! Best wishes to both of you for your future. The boat looks awesome, great craftsmanship from all involved. Pancho needs to be made permanent crew!
Poncho, glad your still supervising that crew!
When he disapproves he takes a chunk out with his beak.....
A sharp chisel is a beautiful thing!
So after using Leos chisels i couldnt go back to my home depot stanleys and just bought my first Lee Nielsen. Happy boy
Mmm, nothing better than a tasty looking wood grain on a Sunday evening.
As ii sit in my 55 yr old wooden yacht on a mooring ,bouncing around on a stormy day ,looking at Leo and crew amazing achievements..rebuilding the Talley Ho. (Of which I grew up with the same photo in our den ,).I am enamored at the synchronizaty of our world .and the artisans that keep the traditions alive , as some one who learnt these skills 50 yr ago ,and still using them , and I can attest to owning a very worn out body , from yrs of tough physical work from 13yrs of age .But wouldn't have it any other way , ,When I look back at whats been achieved. I'll have no regrets,...
Really magnificent hull. A talented team and lead by and outstanding leader.
So inspiring on many levels
Leo, you my friend, are a legend!!! I often wonder if the people who think this is taking a rather long time, understand the sheer amount of labor that goes into each and every process and step?? To put things into perspective can you share with us what a typical crew size would have been when Tally Ho was first built? How long did it take to build her, with how many souls toiling?? Always amazing, keep up the stellar work and thank you for your articulate sharing.
Its great to see ron swnason making what he do.... woodworking! thanks Ron! and yes i know they say his name is clark but we know is RON!
Yes, it is Ron. Whiskey and bacon grease flow through his veins. 😂
You know you have a lot on your plate when you enjoy trimming plugs. Great video and Pete in front of the camera is becoming a true professional.
This makes me No 24, Thanks Leo, I have loved your series on TallHo. You and your crew, past and present are amazing. The care, love, skill and knowledge that has gone into this yacht is amazing.
I nearly had a heartattack when i returnd from the fridg with a beer,al the bronze was painted blue,after a second a saw it was maskingtape..........wonderfull nice job guys this boat gonna be a jewel grtz from Antwerp. -
Those torture boards take me back to my old auto body days....we used to call them "idiot sticks". They do work well!!
Good luck from Russia, from siberia!
For deck planking you need to find someone who is demolishing an old factory, their floors can give you some good sized wood. HMS Warrior and HMS Tricomallee both used wood from old factories for their decks. Might be hard to find 100 year old factory floors now though.
I'd like to be the first to say Thanks !
I don't mind being second - Thank you Leo et al, great work.
It’s no longer a boat, it’s becoming a work of art!👍✌️😊🙏🏼⛵️⛵️⛵️⛵️⛵️
The hull interior is absolutely stunning with the copper, bronze and varnished wood. Hats off to all of the volunteers and to Leo's leadership to make this happen!
What an amazing piece of Artwork!!! I just love every step in this years long project. So glad i stumbled onto this channel at the very beginning. I'll never build a boat, but I've caught a glimpse of what it takes and look forward to each episode and hopefully then on to watch the yacht sail the world. Thanks Leo and crewmembers all.
Varnished inside with all those rivets looks like an art masterpiece, so beautiful :)
I understand about trimming the plugs....I love mowing my lawn.....I find it peaceful and diverting. I use nice noise-cancelling headphones...sometimes silently, other times i'll listen to non-fiction audiobooks.....and I usually stretch the job out.
Y'all are fucking insane, and I mean that as the highest form of compliment possible. In an era where everything is increasingly about money and fame y'all are testing EACH FUCKING RIVET for longevity. That makes me incredibly happy. Keep on keepin' on!
I got a ton of stuff to do today. Oh well, there’s always tomorrow...
why delay till tomorrow, when it’s got time time till day after tomorrow?
dislikes must be your neighbors( Captain Salazar & crew ). ref Pirates of the Caribbean
Hi Leo. Love your channel. I am a forensic fire investigator in Australia. When using linseed and tung oils, please ensure any absorbent materials such as rags etc that have been contaminated with the oil, are disposed of in water. Both these oils are prone to self-heating and spontaneous ignition when rags are exposed to air in trash/rubbish bins etc. Take care and keep the good work.
We usually just burn them at the end of the day.
They can't _cause_ fire if they're already on fire.,
reminds me the safety guy for the company we worked for had a fire at his home after doing some staining . later during a safety meeting the safety guy was stressing there is no such thing as an accident . one of the contractors then asked . so the fire at your place was arson?
I'm happy to see Ron Swanson working with you guys again.