India Needs Military Makeover To Counterbalance China
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ค. 2024
- In an exclusive interview with Nitin Gokhale, Editor-in-Chief, BharatShakti, former Army Commander of ARTRAC, Army Training Command, Shimla and UPSC Member, Lt Gen Raj Shukla (Retd) spoke extensively on India’s National Security Futures’. Spelling out the rapid changes in warfare brought about by informational age technologies already proliferating in the neighbourhood, Gen Shukla said that India needs a comprehensive national security makeover to reduce power symmetry with China as Cold War 2.0 is already here.
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Proud to have people like him with our armed forces
Wow!!
Wonderful !!
Government should listen to Lt. Gen Rajiv ji
Excellent clarity as ever; listening to Gen. Shukla for the very first time; learned a lot from the talk.
This was great. As usual brilliant from the General
Indeed
Listening to gen raj is often a delight.
Lt. Gen. Raj Shukla 🙏🏽 fabulous
Very informative discussion. Thanks Nitin, please continue such insightful and informed discussions.
Thanks
Gen. shukla needs to be india's Defence Minister.. We need a visionary like him at the helm.
Imported equipment will not create strong and independent army. But Indian defence forces are not interested in indigenous equipment. Corruption in armed forces are the biggest hurdle for modernization
True brother 😊
very insighful , many thanks Nitin Ji and Gen Shukla.
The smartest and sharpest of our Defence stalwarts. Great mind.
Great discussion, kudos to the guest and the host.
Thanks
Great show on relevant points of the time....
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Gen Ajay Shukla always insightful on these matters.
Not Ajay Shukla Raj Shukla
Very insightful conversation... i completely agree... More & more private cos must be included under PPP model along with PSUs to ensure cutting edge tech, better use of taxpayer money &faster completion of def projects ... only this way we can match up with our eastern neighbour...
Why does Nitin need to interrupt at every other word spoken by the good General ?
His ‘correct’, ‘correct’ are a nuisance
I know right, he is desperately trying to match the General's keen insights, but fails miserably.
Exactly, i don't why he have to add his 2 bit.
This feedback has been given to him several times. Perhaps he doesn’t read these comments from well wishers:) a bit of hmming is fine but he keeps murmuring something. It disturbs the listener.
Brilliant Discussion
super conversation
A keen analysis!
Nitin should keep quiet while gen. is speaking. It is quite annoying him doing, hmm hmmh hmmm .
After your comment the reactions seem to have gotten louder!! 😂
Fantastic discussion
The corruption and inefficiency in DRDOs and HALs, esspecially the procurement, is the single most biggest challenge for the private sector! The bureaucrats talk all technology and pur honey into the ear, however when smart youngsters invest money and time to get the work done, they will still go with the (L1) lousy underbid! It is a insult to the efforts of the smart startups and they will stay away from defense because of such trickery!
Beautifully put by the General. He knows the perspective so clearly as to what is the requirement as of now.
I feel that in addition to what is said the Lateral induction of minds that can visualize and implement the power imbalance as a deterrent in favour of India.
There is no harm in experimenting with creation of a tactical and advanced and ingress into the foreseeable future working with and as an integrated command with the defense services.
Sir we have to bring one IIT to each state and increase the no of states to 50in next ten years and increase 50more in next 20 years
Government should taking PLI like scheme with huge budget and support new startup and give financial as well as technical support which are made by other party and co ordinate the different startup and you saw Big leap in innovation in qutam and AI second we have to invest in space for military as well as drone technology
A country which since it's independence has no strong internal security and no strong stringent judiciary CAN NEVER EVER B A SUPERPOWER...IN FACT THERE IS A RISK OF USSR 1991 TYPE FATE 🎯due to both these crucial consistent basic SHORTFALLS 😠😠😠🎯🎯🎯
doesn't apply to India, this country is mystery in itself lol you wouldn't understand
Nice interview
Wonderfully explained
Thanks much
terrific insight❤
Thanks to Gen Raj Shukla
Excellent session 👏 👌 👍 😊
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Sir ne kaha aesa hi hoga
Fabulous conversation. Really insightful. When are you doing one on MRFA and where is it headed?
MRFA is cancelled
@@SanjayGupta-nt9vn No. Not yet. Discussions are still on. I live next door to an Air Marshal so have some high level understanding.
@@jackblack2548 it is at this point shelved only because French Rafale M (Marine) has been ordered from the Navy for the replacement of Mig-29 for IAC.
Since IAF needs are huge and growing. Unless funds are sourced for the new fighter jets.
Thanks. Soon
Lateral hiring for Strategic purposes extremely important... Discrete, Swift and Multidimensionsl, Multilevel... Doctrine based.
Sir please we want episode no .2
Chinese defence budget of $300bn propels it to close the GAP with the US, although they are far behind in Air power! As far as india is concerned, the biggest concern that surrounds it, is the fact that india relies on arm imports more than any other nation in the world. This heavy dependence on foreign tech and weapons genuinely makes china an overmatch. Thus a makeover is highly unlikely to mold things india's way in their pursuit to match china.
koi bhi cheez HUM HUMARI MARZI KE BINA NAHI DENGE AUR LENGE BHI APNI MARZI SE NO COMPROMISE
India can stop Chinese aggression by its man power, only light hightech weopens are required to indian soldiers'.
Wonderful and very urgently needed discussion. Thank God there is some light penetrating into the neta consciousness but as usual we are at snail pace. Hopefully the next election gives the ruling dispensation enough foresight to be bold and aggressive about this. Let's remember that China chose the production of weapons over food as it knew what real independence meant. We sadly still dont.
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Innovation dhould be spurred in all sectors ...Acads, Start ups, Incubator cells, DD...
Great conversation..
But as China slowly, but surely, surpassing the US in both the military and economic strength, India is way behind.
And India will be worse left behind as time drags on...
you can't go against God's Will.
Mr. Nitin, please dont end the video so quickly. Let the guest speak
Better counter balance with Pakistan and Bangladesh
"ARTRAC" Army Training Command . Not "ART TRACK".
isro used ai also 4 ch3.
Nitin Gokhale must shake is head less and ask more substantive questions if he can afford to. Then I will hear my first insightful channel. Your conclusion about ideation , innovation and execution was a light of bright vision.
The interviewer needs to limit his humming and "ahhnnnn" "ahhhn". Its a constant noise disturbance.
Don't privatize Army.
Pls let the guest speak and let us hear what he has to say..I mean each single word of his you have to add something on top of it…. Better u only speak then
It is a conversation, not a set Q and A. First understand that. And remember you will get such experts mostly on this channel and StratNews Global, not elsewhere
5% of GDP of india should be spared for 5 years (2024-2029 ) for buying and making High tech weopens.
Untill the galwan clash in 2020 , all indian leaders had neglected the defense of tibetan front.
The mountain strike force , weaponry, training, infrastructure and what not were neglected hoping the china threat will go away.
While the chinese were building up their forces and infrastructure the indians leaders were sleeping and even giving lame exccuses and justifying chinese build up in tibet.
Why is he kept moaning ?
This Nitin is the same guy who interviewed soft spoken ex army chief general Navarane.
He asked Navarane why there is large numbers of chinese soldiers with heavy weapons gathered near india border, he said he doesn’t know.
Gen Navarane is a joker😂
A anecdotal discussion 😑. Why is Nitin nonchalantly agreeing❓ Where are the rebuttals & counter questions❓
It is a conversation, not an interview
How about his views on ..."agni-veer"scheme?
Till now i dont see indians having any deterence to stop pakistan and china twin terrors😂
I just thinking what will happen to India ,if Congress left parties comes to power.
Current Congress is not capable of protecting India's interest. Ghadhi dynasty influence on Congress must end , and Congress should once again become a nationalist party .
BJP and Congress must work together for defence matters. Modi must involve senior Congress leaders in these things.
As an ex-Singaporean and served the army 2 and half years I can tell a plain truth. The Singaporean defence strategy is deterrence deterrence and deterrence. Nothing more Nothing less. Heavy investment on state of art defence technology.
India needs Shivajis army not a colonial mindset driven military
Mr. Nitin Gokhale keeps disturbing. Please allow the guest to talk uninterrupted & soundless
32 indian submarines can creat fear in the minds of china.
Exactly 8 ssbn
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And 12 aip ssk and sscm
Copied China in infra, manufacturing and now deterrence😂. What else you want kumar?
What about foreinizaton of Sea Port Containers terminals.....from 1998 till today....????? Port is second defence line....!!!! Videshi ports containers terminals are dangerous for Bharata..BOT , PPP....Jai Swadeshi ! Jai Jai Swadeshi !! Jai Swaraj !!! Jai Dharma !!!!
We have not done study of 30 years foreign banks, insurance, economic adviser effect on reverse tranfer of power in to foreign hands, after collapse of USSR....!!!!
Carmel, Arther Anderson, Enron, KPMG, CRISIL, Boston BCG, Earnest and Young..... international CROoooooks.....in progress of reverse tranfer of power in to foreign hands.
Coal, steel, mines, telecom, internet, banks, insurance, ships, shipping lines, ports airports sea ports, electricity must be Swadeshi & government owned....how many Videshi companies are in make in India process. That must be made by Bharat.
Atleast we were better in 1990 than today situation.
Forget about democracy dictatorship capitalism and ommunism. They are not Swadeshi systems.
wrong we are not military declared Independence, yes we have military and then militarised units but increasing military presence is improving court martial but we have supreme court with major participations including majority of military too in home in blood, so the declaration of military jobs on basis of parental cadre is not accepted and hence medical formulation is designed in the same way, until we have a batch of military kids get doctor position completely funded we have to see our officials also in mental strain and hence we won
u lost me at the only quantitative comparison of chinese and us navy.and no qualitative angle...lot of jargons...
If india cannot become economic power so we should try to become military power like russia
We can become a economic power too
Be assured by 2030 we will be the 3rd largest economy in the world
@@futureiitianjee our focus should be on growing trillion not on ranking because our enemy is not sleeping they are also progressing day by day
You are on SPOT - India should focus on economic growth - not waste time on useless debates in lower house - where has India been for last 75 years!!
Frankly, looking at videos of travelers exploring the streets of many major cities in Bharat, specifically Mumbai, wouldn’t it be wiser it gave them a makeover a bigger priority than its military?
India is a country that is way richer than it looks. The reason why our cities look bad is because we don't have enough cities for the population. It's too congested in Mumbai,also lot of the older population is uneducated and have lower civic sense. This will improve, you don't have to stop military developments for your cities to improve. We are currently demolishing the slums to build housing. Chinese cities also looked pretty bad in early 2000's.
@@blackmamba9950 Looking bad is one thing. Having thousand of malnourished children, extremely unsanitary and unsafe and people living on the streets in underpasses in Mumbai is another and having trash strewn streets is another. And I am not making assumptions when I am typing this. I saw this via traveller's videos while they are walking informed me of this. Even some rich areas of Mumbai have families that camping at highway underpasses, one video I saw like 2-3 years ago even had a family living under a bridge not far from the famous Mukbhani family skyscraper mansion itself. And Shanghai is way better than Mumbai now in the 2000s.
@@tat3179 you haven't read my comment. lol. Did you even read about the urban congestion I mentionrd? India needs more cities, it'll start looking good.Lot of the reason Indian cities look bad as a result of poor urban management and haphazard growth due to lack of other industrialized cities previously. China was similar in 2000's, I know because I traveled to Shenzhen and Shanghai during that period as part of my work. As for kids/families under the bridge, this has gone down significantly in 2023. Govt has built millions of subsidized homes for poorer sections but everyone wants to move to Cities like Mumbai for better opportunities. New cities are pooping up but it needs to be faster. As tier 2 cities industrialize, the movement of labor will be controlled.
Also China micromanages the movement of labor, you need passes to move to a particular city to work. While it may sound good, I have reservations about this. No big city in the world had adopted this model, it creates artificial inequity. Indian system is slow, inefficient but it's flexible and getting better. The fertility ratio is less than 2 now, so it'll get better in the next 30 years.
@@blackmamba9950 Lol. Firstly, I frankly doubt that you claim you have been in Shanghai back in 2000. Sure, It isn't what it is now, but it doesn't have a Dharvati then, meanwhile Mumbai still have a Dharvati even now, shrinked or not. That is one. And what I saw in Dharvati today horrified me.
Lol. "Gone down significantly"....means it is still exists. In 2020s. There is almost none in China. You will struggle to look for people living underbridges in Shanghai, even in the 2000s. Slums in China is waaay more humane than in India.
That is a fact.
And because similiar sizes in population, perhaps the Chinese government has the better sense to micromanage and actually control the movement of people from the villages to the cities so atrocities like Indian slums don't exist? So people suffer less?Just a thought.
Or you know, stop focusing so much in your space programme while your village people are living in dire poverty and address those needs first before "trying to best China"?
Once, Chinese cities was also the most polluted on earth. Now that "honor" goes to India too. What do you say about that as well?
I am not from the PRC. I just call a spade, a spade. To me, you can call the CCP whatever you want. Call them evil, dictatorial, Winnie to Poo....whatever. Fact is far, far more people in China is been looked after by their government before they do their vanity projects like space travel and their military. To be fair, that applies to so called "democractic", "civilised" and "free" western societies as well.
It is widely believed Modi government is doing the army and political make over to challenge chinese aggression.
As a first step Modi had released map showing Aksai chin is in india.
Secondly, Modi did the unthinkable which is banning tik tok in india.
These actions by Modi had sent chilling message to China and President Xi scared to attend G20 in india 😂
If you think the 2nd most economically powerful country in the world that could defy US sanctions, is the huge reason why Russia is able to fully defy the west despite being sanctioned to the west and makes Bharat obsessively talking about it all the time (just look at the amount of TH-cam videos Bharat talks about China versus Chinese videos talk about Bharat in TH-cam) is having sleepless how Modi draws the map and banning a Chinese social media site, I suggest you think again😂.
@@tat3179 is you tube legal in china?🤣
@@tat3179 is you tube legal in china?🤣
@@Red.bulldozer3 TH-cam is indeed legal in China, provided they comply with Chinese censorship laws. They refused, henced it is blocked. I believe that is what Modi did to some western websites that refuses to remove posts that he deemed to be offensive to Indians. But your point is moot. I am not from China. And what I said about India is more relevant. You people talk about spending on weapons when you have mulnourished children roaming Dharevi in Mumbai, your financial centre. You have a space program when you have families with 13 kids living in 500 sqare feet apartments.
India don't actually need to counterbalance china. China is in demographic decline. If china starts a war, India only need to survive long enough for the (inevitable)economic embargoes by the rest of the world to take effect on china. With the vast land that india has, it won't be that hard.
Lmao, you have seen the western sanctions on Russia. It is of no use in today's geopolitics. Even the American allies are not comfortable with their behaviour. They want to independent in terms of their alliance. That's why they are dealing with Russians and even Chinese.
We just can't depend on sanctions and also there is no guarantee of sanctions when it comes to India. We have seen in the case of Pakistani terrorism inside our J&k. Americans don't care about us. We are just sacrificial lambs.
We have only one option i.e innovations and research otherwise we will not gonna survive.
@@chikukumar-tj1ml China isn't Russia. And even Russia till this day still can't take over Ukraine. India would last far longer than Ukraine due to its size, and the rest of the world could give military aid *as needed*, that way India will wear down China. And even if India were to lose, by that point China would already stretch their supply lines very thinly, making it an easy picking for the rest of the world if they decided to step in. Allowing India to grow too strong would be a mistake, because judging from their current behaviour, India would be just as bad as China
whatever you say nothing actionable will happen its the turn of the tortoise
Let’s not make the 2.5 inch Chinese taller. Do you think us, india, Japan et all are sitting idle. Too much infatuation with unproven Chinese power who have not fought real wars.
Lets not underestimate them atleast get 10 trillion economy
I hope Indians can read carefully and experience with their hearts. The huge difference in the founding of China and India determines the biggest difference between India and China. Just look at the modern history of both countries and you will understand. India has been colonized by Britain for more than 200 years. In 1947, Britain experienced World War II, its strength declined significantly, and its status was replaced by the United States. India achieved independence through non violent and non cooperative means. In other words, India's independence has not undergone the test of blood and fire. Such an independent country lacks cohesion, willpower, and a sense of national identity. Now let's talk about China. Since the British defeated the corrupt and incompetent Qing government in 1840, the Chinese people have been living in dire straits. Various disasters and wars followed one after another. At that time, China was very poor and backward, suffering various humiliations. Including the cession of Hong Kong and Macau, Taiwan becoming a Japanese colony, the Eight Nation Alliance setting fire to the Old Summer Palace, and subsequent Japan's comprehensive and brutal invasion of China. In 1931, Japan launched a full-scale invasion of China. From 1931 to 1945, the war lasted for 14 years. The Chinese military and civilians rose up to resist, fought with blood for fourteen years, and suffered 30 million casualties, ultimately achieving victory. Do you know why there are so many casualties in China? There are hundreds of reasons, and I will only give an example of one phenomenon: Chinese troops are in conflict with Japanese troops. Often, if the number of Chinese soldiers participating in the war is 100, they only have 20-30 firearms. The remaining soldiers did not give up resistance or surrender. They bravely fought against the Japanese machine guns and cannons with machetes, steel forks, and wooden sticks until they sacrificed themselves. This spirit of facing death as if returning home and never retreating is the Chinese spirit. 30 million casualties! Do you think this can happen in India? For India, it is zero casualties because their knees are soft. India will soon give up resistance. Do you know why there was the Nanjing Massacre? Due to the desperate resistance of the Chinese military and civilians, they will never surrender or give up. After Japan captured Nanjing, firstly to vent its anger, and secondly to scare off other Chinese soldiers and civilians in resistance. However, the Nanjing Massacre not only did not deter any Chinese people, but also further aroused the resistance of the Chinese people. The establishment of New China has gone through the test of blood and fire. Do you know why the Chinese national flag is red? That's because the establishment of New China was bought with the blood of countless Chinese ancestors, and we Chinese people will always remember it. From 1945 to 1949, during the Chinese Civil War, the Kuomintang fled to Taiwan. Originally, the Chinese people thought they could live a peaceful life they had longed for, but in 1950, the Korean War broke out, lasting three years. The Chinese People's Volunteer Army successfully resisted the northward route of the United States without air superiority, sea superiority, outdated army equipment, and extremely poor logistics, at the cost of losing hundreds of thousands of brave People's Liberation Army soldiers. As for India's unforgettable and shameful 1962 Sino Indian War, in the eyes of us Chinese, it was not a war at all. Firstly, it only took 32 days. Secondly, from 1959 to 1961, China experienced the most difficult three years since the founding of the People's Republic of China, during which many people starved to death. In 1962, India's economy far surpassed that of China. Both the United States, the Soviet Union, and Britain support India. At that time, India implemented a "forward policy" and attacked China with elite troops. We Chinese people really don't want to go to war. The Chinese troops that participated in the war with India in 1962 were ordinary border defense forces, not regular People's Liberation Army. In China, soldiers are known as the "cutest people". There is a Chinese proverb: without a country, there is no home, and soldiers are the backbone of the country. Thank you to our brave soldiers of the People's Liberation Army who are always ready to defend the borders of our motherland. No matter how India develops its military, it cannot surpass China. Whether in the past, present, or future, China can always defeat India. This is determined by the history and culture of both countries. Chinese people value the spirit of dedication and sacrifice. Do not surrender, do not surrender, vow to resist to the death, and face death as if returning on the battlefield. If Chinese soldiers surrender on the battlefield, it would be a great shame, and the spirit of dying rather than giving up is deeply engraved in the bones of every Chinese person. These are all things that Indians do not possess. So, even now or in the future, India will never be able to defeat China. Now, do you think India can stand tall in the world like China? Absolutely impossible.
The Indian army is the worst army among all China's opponents. The Chinese War of Resistance Against Japanese Aggression lasted for 14 years, the Chinese Civil War lasted for 4 years, the Korean War lasted for 3 years, China's self-defense and counterattack against Vietnam lasted for 2 months, and China's border war with Vietnam lasted for 10 years. India's understanding of "war" is too narrow. We Chinese believe that India has never experienced a real war. In 1962, in the eyes of the Chinese people, it was not a war, it was just an armed conflict between China and India. In 1962, a brief, just 32 day armed conflict continued India's nightmare for decades. What makes Chinese people laugh is that a border conflict has turned India into a "New Delhi Capital Defense War".
@@mingmuyiyang8615try and find out...😉😉😉
Gen Shukla should be requested to lead Civil Military involvement.
Great idea. But, stop talking already. Roll up your sleeves,and start acting upon it.
I think nitin should be made cds... He knows everything.......unsub... Damn man he invited a guest and ....mm
Nitin you should learn to keep quiet n stop commenting when others are talking…
Pls don’t think of yourself as some National security expert ….
Thanks for your advice
Why is USA military the most powerful military ever?
1. Economy
2. Best scientific Research & Development
3. Civilians, Colleges, professors, Universities bring their expertise like psychological ops, statistics, Data analysis, language skills
4. Private companies make profits
5. Best Foreign diplomats
6. Best Military intelligence
7. Allies that provide base and logistics
8. Highly educated and skilled cillvilians join their military
Etc and Etc
Does India have atleast two points mentioned above?
my question is simple , inspite of all this and lot more , WHY ? DID AMERICA RUN AWAY
FROM AFGANISTAN , WHY ,
@@naveenpalani3194well why are u diverting to something unrelated…..As an Indian I can conclusively say that India lags in terms of technology in AI and other scientific researches that it will hurt us big time if we are as careless as u.
@@sagar9703 we have a british legacy , we should simply ignore
all this american bull shi# , again with all the tech and all that
what happened in gaza ,
@@naveenpalani3194looks like u have no sense of reality……if u are in parallel world pls come back.
blah blah blah, you have this and that still couldn't achieve sh!t, India isn't looking for BS, it's looking for wins
at 5:23 What is 40i ,90 i?
40i is 40 days and 90i is 90days of "intensive” full-spectrum fighting, respectively.
@@rv.j thanks 🙏