What Are the Most Wanted Classes in TBC Classic?

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  • @MetaGoblin
    @MetaGoblin  4 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    This isn't a tier list of the "strongest classes" it's a tier list of the most "desired classes". Therefore the popularity of the classes is a factor to consider. A few people are missing that point.

    • @Electro4ever1000
      @Electro4ever1000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hi Meta, perhaps you should divide "most wanted classes in pve" and "most played classes in pve", what do you think?

    • @IzyJames
      @IzyJames 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe make separate list and more content then 1 list that is completely off. Going to be a lot of shadow priest wondering around with out homes

    • @Electro4ever1000
      @Electro4ever1000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@IzyJamesthis won't happen man.. Shadow priests are not an overplayed class compared to a rogue or a fury warrior, because of the fact that they are support classes NOT pure damage dealers such as a warlock or a hunter.
      Most wanted spec did not mean it will become the most played spec in the TBC Classic, because you have to like playing that spec as well. MetaGoblin even mentioned in his video at 10:00 as one of the least played specs, maybe not as rare as a boomkin, but they are still WANTED. You can almost guarantee your slot in a raid behind the shamans as you will be needed to regenerate a high amount of mana to your party, especially on a long fight like M'uru.
      On the other hand, there is going to be LOT rogues and fury warriors without a guild, or on waiting lists as there will be too many competitions for the warglaives. This is more the kind of reality that we should expect from TBC Classic.

    • @zeakonz70
      @zeakonz70 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes i Think you should make it a 2 part video instead. 1 with the Most wanted and one with the 'tier" in their roles.
      Cuz people get this list so wrong :/

    • @bloodlustftw3790
      @bloodlustftw3790 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Never GonnatellI disagree with your statements. Rogues and hunters are ones of the strongest, but not the most desired classes when it comes to pve as they are overplayed in tbc version. And when you mentioned that we already have a guild, this is only for classic wow. Classic tbc will be another story as we won't need 40 men to raid any longer, so guilds will most likely get divided with less active members than they currently have.

  • @relog
    @relog 4 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    Literally every “healer” in our guild is secretly shadow lmao

    • @FS-gl9cg
      @FS-gl9cg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      bring back dual spec to tbc really

    • @highviewbarbell
      @highviewbarbell 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@FS-gl9cg no way. Learn to respec

    • @Mairesist
      @Mairesist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@highviewbarbell how about you play a healer then? Its hard enough to respec and find gear for both specs, it costs a ton of gold too

    • @fireandice1860
      @fireandice1860 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FS-gl9cg dual spec was wotlk wasnt it? Or the pre patch?

    • @Lulank
      @Lulank 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@highviewbarbell its not an issue of learning to respec, but rather how much it costs and how inconvinient so..

  • @fayt13leingod
    @fayt13leingod 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    My first character was a Shadow priest and I loved it in TBC in both PVP and PVE.

  • @MiceDnP
    @MiceDnP 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Was just thinking about this topic and like immediately a video. The video is nice as always and i'm glad i was able to run a dungeon with you on Endless- seemed like a cool dude.

  • @kirbus69
    @kirbus69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    A good warlock is almost a need for certain bosses that require a warlock tank, so putting them in tier A isn't absurd, in my opinion.

  • @JuanCarlos-nx6lf
    @JuanCarlos-nx6lf 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi i like a lot your videos man keep it Up. One question about warriors. Its better lv up the warrior on arms spec or fury? And more think, warriors fury is bad at the begining of the expansion so its better do pve at arms spec then? Or fury spec with a two hands weapon?

    • @AFlyingTrout
      @AFlyingTrout 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Idk if u ever found an answer but my research has suggested questing and open world solo pve fury leveling is a little better than arms, but if you're doing dungeons or group pve arms will be better for the group b'c you can buff your group (even raid) with 4% damage. Its because of the raid buff that you'd likely want to respec arms at 70, but toward the end of the expansion when armor penetration gear becomes more available and raids become more melee-friendly that fury warriors and rogues can start to compete with hunters for dps, so more will be welcome in raiding. Personally I'll be returning to deep prot and leveling 60-70 just like I did 1-60 b'c I'm a masochist who loves to main tank.

  • @Mimoas66
    @Mimoas66 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of the other advantages of the shadow priest they don't need too much stuff , once you get your the shadoweave set you can technically run until the T6 without worrying about replacing it

    • @Miichal1337
      @Miichal1337 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is not advantage, cause you will be last person to get some items in raids (if your guild is not running on DKP system)

  • @skippyzk
    @skippyzk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Shafowstep makes rogue so much fun

  • @vog5197
    @vog5197 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would expect Boomkin to be higher because you mentioned this video is about early on in the patch cycle and Moonkins bring Faery Fire as a hit buff.

    • @vog5197
      @vog5197 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@crjm2001 It does.

  • @Weeb1gman
    @Weeb1gman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    You didn't mention how Ret Paladin performance will differ greatly depending on Horde / Alliance, because Seal of Blood is a big deal.

    • @seanbailey8545
      @seanbailey8545 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Depends if Blizz leave it as is..or try to balance alliance/horde just to keep numbers even on both factions .

    • @Gretstarret
      @Gretstarret 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@seanbailey8545 Judging how Classic turned out, there wont be any changes to that. I'm wondering if M.Gobbo took note of the seal-twisting horde ret.pallies can do with blood/judgement. Makes them hugely more viable than alliance retries.

    • @RadialTemporal
      @RadialTemporal 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Didnt blizz add seal of blood to Alliance during a later patch in TBC? They might release TBC on a later patch like they did with classic. I

    • @Hirotoro4692
      @Hirotoro4692 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      seal of blood is like a 15% dps gain over SoCom tops. That is quite a difference, yes.

    • @Hirotoro4692
      @Hirotoro4692 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Gretstarret but this won't be Classic. It'll be ClassicBC. They don't have to do the same thing.

  • @StrikerXL_BE
    @StrikerXL_BE 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You make really good video's around WoW, I was in search of such content and channel.
    Do you always do news updates?

  • @fmls8266
    @fmls8266 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Ret Paladins will also boost the whole raid crit chance by 3% and the damage of those in his group by 2%

    • @joshuabrunet4096
      @joshuabrunet4096 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're guild though pugs hate ret pallys

    • @richl4112
      @richl4112 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The problem with that the raid will lose 10% dps purely due to ret paladins being crap

    • @fmls8266
      @fmls8266 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@richl4112
      You wouldnt lose 10% raid dps even if you went in with an empty dps spot lmao

    • @richl4112
      @richl4112 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fmls8266 thats how bad ret paly is. Its a drain :)

    • @fmls8266
      @fmls8266 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@richl4112 If that's a joke I can even laugh about it, but if we want to be serious, we both know that cant be true.
      Belf rets pull decent dps and they can easily sit top 10, there is no way they would drain 10% raid dps come on

  • @SamSam-bg6ok
    @SamSam-bg6ok 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    lol did you put the harry potter 2 ps1 game music in the background ??

  • @ecutc3
    @ecutc3 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you think they will grant us a race change when tbc comes out? Or we have to start over from lv1 if we want to be a diff race? Late to the game with classic 😭

    • @limacrap
      @limacrap 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hope so horde so overly played que for bgs takes too long

  • @seanbailey8545
    @seanbailey8545 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thinking about playing a Feral tank with a healing off spec. And maybe a shadow priest alt..I Mained SP in TBC retail so it has a lot of find memories for me and I enjoyed being a mana battery lol.

  • @DankMadale21
    @DankMadale21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ele and enhance are both wanted as well the ap buff from enhance and the spell from ele are amazing for other dps

  • @zachjohnston06
    @zachjohnston06 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude I just started playing WoW and man your content is so cool. I like the explanation of everything in simple terms and gives me an idea of how I want to go about playing the game. Good stuff!

  • @kaleoandros25
    @kaleoandros25 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Shamans in ally and pala in horde, people gonna lvl like crazy to cath up.

    • @seanbailey8545
      @seanbailey8545 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Pallies are not so needed in TBC as they were/are in classic, sure you want a few for buffs but most raids I'm gonna say will stack shamans of all kinds.

    • @doncorleone1720
      @doncorleone1720 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bloodlust only give buff to group Not full raid

    • @Hardmetal1993
      @Hardmetal1993 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@seanbailey8545 them pally blessings are DOPE though. They're really good tanks in TBC too, especially for AOE. Ideal offtank

    • @lisavauhti7675
      @lisavauhti7675 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pally becomes better main tank than warrior in t6, uncrushable for 8 hits versus warrior only relying on 2 shield blocks.

  • @Vektordeformacio
    @Vektordeformacio 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Boomkin is best for it's hit debuff. Just that is as good as dwarf fear ward was.

  • @gb1421
    @gb1421 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pretty good tier list. I agree for the most part. I think maybe Boomkin should be higher though. Depends on your raid comp I guess.

  • @N3RFTHIS
    @N3RFTHIS 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Towards the end of BC/LK I found dungeons to be getting boring with dungeon finder and some randoms op pally mate aoe.tanking the whole instance in one pull

  • @mikesnedker5650
    @mikesnedker5650 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    You forgot boomking give aswell 3%hit to mele and ranged(Hunter) +2%aviods insesct swarm 😉

    • @MethosChannel
      @MethosChannel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes but everyone is hitcapped so whats the point? Maybe not casual players that enters Karazan for the first time but i wish it was 3% easier to crit the target (for the whole raid) like Retripaladin gets.

    • @Liftheavy85
      @Liftheavy85 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MethosChannel You're missing the point. If you have a boomkin you can swap hit pieces out for more crit or damage gear.

    • @StrikerDeluxe
      @StrikerDeluxe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Liftheavy85 maybe if you want to push personal logs late into the raidtier when you have extra niche items. Moonkins in general are useless until WotlK tho

  • @joshewert13
    @joshewert13 4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    I’ve been play private tbc, practically since tbc was over with. Here’s what I’ve seen as classes needed most. Shamans. Period. Every group in a 25 man wants one. Totems, and bloodlust. 2 elementals, 2 resto 1 enhance. An ele adds 101 sp, 3%hit/critical to spell which is massive, since early on spellhit gems aren’t in the game. And hero/lust ofc. Windfury is a must for your melee group. Now classes I’m tbc are very different from heroics and 25 man content. Holy pally, must in 25, but suck in heroics. Port warrior, can be good in heroics, depending on skill level and group comp, but must as a maintank. Druids are a Must as resto in 25s. 2 min. More battle Rez the better. Warlocks/hunters/mages are solid all around. They bring lots to heroics with cc and even more so for 25s with being ranged, so easier to avoid shit, plus raid buffs, cookies, mage tank (gruuls lair) and misdirections. You’ll also want 1 survival hunter for your melee group. In all fairness I’ve seen every class at the top of each meter. Tbc allows you to really min max your class if you put the time and resources into it. I’ve seen alliance ret pallies destroy the meters in 25 content, as well as boomkins. They put in work with gear and consumables.

    • @scarymoon1078
      @scarymoon1078 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do u know good tbc server?

    • @Tentakelfutter
      @Tentakelfutter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@scarymoon1078 Endless Sunstrider

    • @ILoveCockInMyAss
      @ILoveCockInMyAss 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      And then they are rogues :D

    • @MrSnake9419
      @MrSnake9419 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      How come holy pallas suck in heroic? I've been wanting to play one in tbc.

    • @joshewert13
      @joshewert13 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Big Boss Currently playing on endless, and netherwing might be launching a fresh one. As for holy pallys, absolutely play one. They’re great in Kara and further. You can do heroics, it’s just you have no aoe, hots, shields. If your group is lazy it’s gonna be rough. Some end bosses I heroics put out way too much aoe dmg for you to keep up with just holy /flash light

  • @MrCliverandy
    @MrCliverandy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My lock can't get a job for entire TBC while my feral druid is forced to change to resto and off tank which sucks because I ended up struggling real hard to get sufficient gear for both spec.

  • @Bummul
    @Bummul 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Still, I highly doubt that the right values for everything on private servers (same as for classic), and we might see different numbers for everything.

  • @adamorth5335
    @adamorth5335 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Subbed. Let’s get that metric looking better

  • @caribaska
    @caribaska 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what about warrior arms in pve?

  • @Evencane
    @Evencane 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where would arms warriors be on this list? if they even rank at all on here. I heard they give a melee damage buff so they might be a little desirable but I'm not sure.

    • @desyncer
      @desyncer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You want one Arms warrior in a raid. Chances are that raid already has an arms warrior.

  • @krunyec
    @krunyec 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Disclaimer to the fury warriors: You wont get in any raids unless you are extremely lucky. Personal experience..

    • @DriftNick
      @DriftNick 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      My personal experience was always having a raid spot even when I joined a new guild with 3 other dps warriors because I did good damage.

    • @abfutrell
      @abfutrell 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I once ask a fury warrior to help offtank on Moroes. He didn't have a shield in his bag......

    • @chelechillen7848
      @chelechillen7848 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Warriors will just roll to Locks

    • @itsButeii
      @itsButeii 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No need to bring fury warriors lol

    • @fredrik2095
      @fredrik2095 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@abfutrell 90% of all wars:/

  • @jointedlimb
    @jointedlimb 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was a resto druid in tbc in a top 20 world guild... 3rd best geared druid in game at that time. Willing to come back with adequate considerations.

  • @oldmanchickenlegs3441
    @oldmanchickenlegs3441 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fine I did it I subscribed I’ve been watching these videos for awhile since classic release

  • @ragehoof1508
    @ragehoof1508 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Boomkin tier D??? did we forget the 3% melee hit?

  • @remiborgen8925
    @remiborgen8925 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've seen every class to the damage meters depending on many factors: gear, group buffs, time-content, consumables etc.

    • @Altobrun
      @Altobrun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah it really depends on the fight and individual skill. Watching Costin from Serious Gaming progress through Tempest Keep and the top DPS (locks and hunters) pull ~1400 sustained dps. Compare that to the low dps of a ret paladin being around ~1200 and you see that the difference between top and bottom dps isn't nearly as severe as it is in classic.
      That coupled with the fact that the TBC bosses will undoubtably be easier than private server's overtuned bosses means that I imagine all classes and specs will be viable for casual guilds that clear all content, if not seen in top speed running guilds.

    • @Rockmaster867
      @Rockmaster867 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Altobrun i just want to relive the rogue dream

  • @sewerynbiko4917
    @sewerynbiko4917 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    back in a day feral in my guild was so usefull, he was off tank but in a bosses when we was need just one tank he easy swap to dps

  • @MrGlennJohnsen
    @MrGlennJohnsen 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Meta min/max raid setup:
    Grp1: Prot Paladin, Mage, Survival Hunter, Affliction Warlock and Restoration Shaman.
    Grp2: Prot Warrior, Ret Paladin, 2x Beastmastery Hunters and Enhancement Shaman.
    Grp3: Feral Druid (third tank), Arms Warrior, 2x Beastmastery Hunters and Enhancement Shaman.
    Grp4: Balance Druid, 3x Demo/Destro Warlocks and Elemental Shaman.
    Grp5: Shadow Priest, Holy Paladin, /x Holy Priests and Resto Shaman.
    You could drop 2 BM hunters and get another mage and a rogue into the raid, but that would reduce your overall raid dps.

  • @benjaminjacobs5382
    @benjaminjacobs5382 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    SO hyped for pre-patch to make my spriest!!

    • @PattyKs94
      @PattyKs94 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      When is this patch

  • @dmoustakas
    @dmoustakas 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Addons list please?

  • @doman9891
    @doman9891 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    we should see if heroic strike bug carries on to TBC...would be an entirely different story

  • @simmot5213
    @simmot5213 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    i know enhance shaman isnt the best dps compared to elemental, i just dont really like caster play style. Will i be alright in getting into dungeons/raids relativly easily? i know you put them at an s tier but just curious for enhance shaman. thanks :)

    • @B0dybagBen
      @B0dybagBen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Enhancement is top tier DPS... They MASSIVELY outperform elemental shamans.

    • @samuelhakansson6680
      @samuelhakansson6680 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Only at early T6 and beyond. Elemental is one of the highest performing DPS at T4 through T5, but falls off hard after that due to poor scaling.

    • @B0dybagBen
      @B0dybagBen 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@samuelhakansson6680 nah, they outperform elementals everywhere except 5 man dungeons.

    • @samuelhakansson6680
      @samuelhakansson6680 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@B0dybagBen Sorry, tested both specs myself from pre-raid bis to T6. While you don't have have to agree, my finsings were that elemental van easily hit around 1000-1300 DPS in kara wearing pre-raid blues, something which nearly no other class can at that level. The reason being that ele is nearly hit capped and has decent crit early om from talents alone, something locks for instance just can't her early on sine they have to gear massively for it. Enh on the other hand struggles to reach 800 dps early on in kara, as it needs so many stats to start scaling well (hit, crit, haste, better weapons etc.). Especially haste and crit make enh scale super well (near 100% flurry uptime once you get enough crit, and shamanistic rage lets you refill to 100% mana letting you use haste instead of mana pots), but you need enough hit before you can start getting those stats. That being said, enh scales super well and performs better than ele when you reach about T5 levels of gear, since you get enough hit and can have haste/crit synergize. Again, you might not agree with that, but that's what I found as I played from heroics up through T6 in both specs. Ele is godmode in blues and T4 gear, but at T6 you cant match enh DPS.

    • @omologo95
      @omologo95 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah. Enhance will have no issues finding guilds. You're pretty much mandatory for the melee groups in your raid, just for your Windfury Totem and Bloodlust. And luckily you deal good DPS as well.

  • @MW-ty5zw
    @MW-ty5zw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You pretty much want one of each spec in a raid besides rogues. The you go heavy on shamans, lock and hunter.

    • @samuelmccarthy9190
      @samuelmccarthy9190 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pretty much sums it up.

    • @Wellshem
      @Wellshem 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rogue: We live in a society 🤡

  • @shubnix
    @shubnix 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good videos, keep it up

  • @elky21
    @elky21 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im little disappointed you didnt differentiate shamans like you did with other hybrid classes, im no tbc expert but i think resto shaman will be in much higher demand than enh? I personally wanna play draenei ele shaman and i can realistically see it somewhere between A and B in demand, would you agree or not?

  • @BananaJointTV
    @BananaJointTV 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Haha Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets music in the background, epic!

  • @xaviercoronado154
    @xaviercoronado154 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just downloaded this server and made a human warlock, i didn't see a lot of people in the starter area, is there a lot of people on the alliance side?

    • @Kemachris
      @Kemachris 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Plenty ppl get out of the starter areas in like 5mins with 5x experience thats why theyre empty

    • @okamiseven
      @okamiseven 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Everyone is already 70 you're not gonna see a ton of people until outland

    • @seanbailey8545
      @seanbailey8545 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's dead in starter zones usually...I see a lot of ppl in stv tho both horde and alliance. And plenty of 70s in the main cities .

    • @mikesnedker5650
      @mikesnedker5650 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Alot ppl playing just get to 60+ lvl takes No time and alot lvl with their main in doungen 😉

    • @Vigilant_warrior_08
      @Vigilant_warrior_08 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I started playing around 1 month ago as orc and durotar was still heavily crowded back then, maybe the server hype died down a bit, but the cities are still swarmed by a lot of people

  • @BigBojoG
    @BigBojoG 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about arms warrior?

  • @andmyAlex
    @andmyAlex 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting choice of background music... Which soundtrack is it from?

    • @MetaGoblin
      @MetaGoblin  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      harry potter chamber of secrets ps2 soundtrack and witcher 1

  • @jerrylacroix7682
    @jerrylacroix7682 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ret Paladin should be a B or C, because they apply a 3% crit debuff on the boss, holy and prot can pick up the talent but in a raid setting neither one of those 2 specs want that talent.

  • @Hirotoro4692
    @Hirotoro4692 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's not a bad idea for a raid to bring an arms warrior for the physical debuff. Inb4 someone says "lol TBC, who brings melee"

    • @zaknefain100
      @zaknefain100 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      A lot of people have been saying that... funny thing is, you won't see a TBC progression guild from back in the day without a melee group. Usually, enh shaman, dps warrior, 1-2 rogues, cat druid or ret paladin.

  • @danieldeardorff3566
    @danieldeardorff3566 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just want to play Rogue but I don't think I am gonna be wanted lol. I have started Endless so maybe I can get a fix. Hit me up at Sutures. I could use advice on navigating the super boost leveling speed better.

    • @midnightblue1874
      @midnightblue1874 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Try playing dagger rogue :)

    • @kallebaah0
      @kallebaah0 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rogues don't bring anything to a raid. Roll something else

    • @omologo95
      @omologo95 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rogues are weak for PvE. But they're also the far and beyond best melee for PvP.

  • @Wellshem
    @Wellshem 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    how is it hard to get a shadow priest ? Half of the priest want to be one lol

    • @andrewstewart8615
      @andrewstewart8615 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      nobody wants to priest they're all druids now.

  • @nicolascage8015
    @nicolascage8015 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    So spriest is s tier cus they are necesity in raid and they are not played that much but boomkin is in tier d cus they are necesitiy in raid and not played that much???
    Ok

    • @alecjacobs9822
      @alecjacobs9822 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Boomkin is not a necessity.

    • @ReavGames
      @ReavGames 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      you would bring more than 1 spriest, but not more than 1 boomkin

    • @Clarkem1
      @Clarkem1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ele shamen over boomkin anyday. Both are not necessary. But nice to have.

    • @Fliptality
      @Fliptality 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ele shaman > boomkin. you dont need one

    • @draganescuconstantin2380
      @draganescuconstantin2380 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      he probably meant that a lot of guilds want multiple spriests and there's very few of them so you can safely make an spriest and get a spot, while as boomkin you might not get a spot in raids because the demand is lower so dont bother making one cuz as rare as they are, there's still enough of them for guilds to recruit

  • @chinvincible4295
    @chinvincible4295 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Man I can't wait resto shaman pvp was so fun

    • @Fugitive292
      @Fugitive292 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly! Resto Shaman in TBC battlegrounds seemed so fun that in WotLK I mained a resto shammy.

    • @trailerparkboysbestshow3327
      @trailerparkboysbestshow3327 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Never played, but why was it so much fun??

    • @Fugitive292
      @Fugitive292 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@trailerparkboysbestshow3327 I don't know, it felt cool back then to put Earth Shield on the flag carrier in WG and Chain Heal like crazy.

  • @Adamhosek
    @Adamhosek 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Aaaand subscribed ;D

  • @radioactive3351
    @radioactive3351 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This Lakeside song in background :)

    • @Nidhoh97
      @Nidhoh97 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What’s it from?

    • @henrikh3089
      @henrikh3089 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Nidhoh97 the Witcher 1 (first Witcher game released 2007). The soundtrack overall is very good.

  • @seanchurchill5844
    @seanchurchill5844 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Rogue is the best. Paid for my epic flying solo farming chests in dungeons. also you can vanish Teron Gorefiends ghost bullshit. best agro dump in the game. distract helps in Mount Hyjal to allow extra time to recover from last trash pack and bosses. also much needed interupt.

    • @shadowwolf9909
      @shadowwolf9909 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which dungeons for chest farming?

    • @seanchurchill5844
      @seanchurchill5844 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@shadowwolf9909 Mana Tombs was the easiest.

  • @braxtonmarshall1883
    @braxtonmarshall1883 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Idc what everybody else wants to play. I know im going with my holy pally(:
    Finally can main pally.
    I haven't played classic but I played vanilla, and every xpac since. Haven't mained pally since vanilla and tbc,
    But ill start playing tbc again hell yeah, screw retail!
    But hopefully eventually they remake wrath! That was my favorite xpac and a lot of others as well

  • @Swiftiestoenails
    @Swiftiestoenails 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    4 piece for hunters beastlord set it gives your pet 500 armor pen.

  • @MethosChannel
    @MethosChannel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    U wanna go pro? Shaman, shaman, shaman and more shamans!

  • @Rawrbagels
    @Rawrbagels 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah, despite doing insane DPS and being great at PvP(though in different specs) Warlocks just aren't as common as hunters. I think your list is very accurate.

  • @vonsloppy6640
    @vonsloppy6640 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about arms?

  • @seanbailey8545
    @seanbailey8545 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you want a raid slot almost guaranteed..roll a shaman simple as.

  • @nastynotch8314
    @nastynotch8314 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Boomkin 5% spell crit 3% hit increase to melee and range, and 2% hit debuff to target. Plus top 5 dps....?

    • @zicilfax89
      @zicilfax89 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because you only need 1.

  • @dnb888
    @dnb888 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My list:
    Elemental Shaman
    Shadowstep
    Shockadin
    Mangle Druid

  • @ryuranzou
    @ryuranzou 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My girlfriend wants to do resto shaman and I want to do paladin. All of paladin depending on what I am doing. I just played pally from wrath onwards and played hunter in vanilla and tbc. Looks like I might be healing with her in raids.

    • @ryuranzou
      @ryuranzou 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@owfan4134 Sadly I'm still trying every day to convince her to play. I'm 69 so far and loving prot pally though.

  • @matousstastny3027
    @matousstastny3027 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this Kear Morhen?

  • @Legend011
    @Legend011 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    one thing about boomkin is improved faerie fire check the talent out.

    • @TattierFob10366
      @TattierFob10366 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      its viability drops off quickly

    • @Greg-bs5jw
      @Greg-bs5jw 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You dont bring enough melee to make it worth

  • @chinigo1595
    @chinigo1595 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You completely forgot about leader or the pack raid buff, which would take feral to C tier at least if not B

    • @Greg-bs5jw
      @Greg-bs5jw 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're not bringing enough melee to make it work.

    • @chinigo1595
      @chinigo1595 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Greg Gregson not sure what xpac you’re thinking of but in Bc it’s ranged and melee, an it applying to hunter is super valuable

    • @seanbailey8545
      @seanbailey8545 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not raid wide,only party wide afaik.

    • @Hirotoro4692
      @Hirotoro4692 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Greg-bs5jw are you mad? There will be a melee group who can benefit from it...

    • @dulkansilberaxt
      @dulkansilberaxt 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      He puts ret paladin, which adds 3% crit to the entire raid, 2% dmg to their party and keeps judgements up in D-Tier and you expect a 5% crit buff for your party to push feral to B-tier?

  • @hvdiv17
    @hvdiv17 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    shamans all specs wil lbe the most wanted class you will have at least 5 in every raid.2 enhance 2 ele and a resto.if you want a guaranteed raid spot roll a shaman while everyone will be warlock/hunter and be fighting for raid dps spots.

  • @spencerme3486
    @spencerme3486 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Feral were great- OT, dps, innervate, and battle Rez made them valuable wild cards.
    I topped dps charts all the time as feral in BC

    • @jamesb7924
      @jamesb7924 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That just means you were in a terrible DPS group xD

  • @xxdpruss2kxx
    @xxdpruss2kxx 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Basically s tier for utility classes then fill with your best dps

  • @concord2009
    @concord2009 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about arms warrior?!

  • @mathiashalvorsen1326
    @mathiashalvorsen1326 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you dissing on Boomkin/doomkin? No1 knew we existed but we topped the meters all the time

  • @RothurThePaladin
    @RothurThePaladin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh Man I rolled a Spriest on this server.

  • @dairallan
    @dairallan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OK so if this is first patch and therefore pre-Arcane nerf, then its completely wrong about Mages. Mages weren't just the top DPS pre-nerf they were the top DPS by massive margins. Pre-nerf Arcane Mages are tier A, pretty solidly in this era.

  • @timxiix3864
    @timxiix3864 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    At the end of the day dont listen to these lists and go with what u feel like would be the most fun for you

    • @MiceDnP
      @MiceDnP 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Except if u really like rogue and want to do pve. Unless you are making your own guild, i never see any guilds looking for a rogue- never.

    • @BURRDAWG_
      @BURRDAWG_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup thats why play shaman and druid they are the most fun for me

    • @kaydens6964
      @kaydens6964 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just don’t make rogue for pve and you will be fine.

  • @faridbelaloui
    @faridbelaloui 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jeremy Soule Chamber of Secrets music eh? Hehehe

  • @cynthiaarakane9669
    @cynthiaarakane9669 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    U defenitle need a Palatank in Hyal. With a pvivate Healer and a second Paly wo Juges Manasiel the Palatank Tank tanks the Trasch alone.

  • @josetavares7949
    @josetavares7949 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why boomkin should be on tier D?
    Aside from the aura they give, boomkin also gives 3% hit on their imp FF. And 3% is Huge which means u can swap items which has hit rating and go for more offensive stats. They aint topping the dps meteres like spriest. They are there for imp FF innervate and rebirth.

    • @MrIggiepoo
      @MrIggiepoo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Debatable. If the boomkin dies then raid dps suffers greatly, or if it's an add fight like Muruu you can't be putting FF on every mob. Double edged sword

    • @josetavares7949
      @josetavares7949 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrIggiepoo if its nerfed muru then yes u bring a bala druid for it. Pre. Nerf u dont even bring sadly cuz the amount of warlocks u gonna use Pre-nerf is insane

    • @johnhandcock3242
      @johnhandcock3242 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      spriests don't top meters. If anything, they're at the bottom of the meters. Moonkin will outdps a spriest every day, and twice on sunday.

    • @johnhandcock3242
      @johnhandcock3242 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrIggiepoo Adds typically aren't boss level, so you need 3 less hit for your specials.

    • @MrIggiepoo
      @MrIggiepoo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnhandcock3242 Everyone will be yellow capped, it's a sin not to be. So really the spell hit only affects melee. It's very meh.

  • @seankiernan7327
    @seankiernan7327 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If shadow priest was unpopular back in TBC....how do we know that will be the case if / when TBC is re-released? With a more sophisticated player base, wouldn't more people think to play it?

    • @idiosyncrasy3315
      @idiosyncrasy3315 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably not, in classic I main a shadow priest and can’t wait for TBC to main a shadow priest again, just like I did all those years ago. And way back then a shadow priest wasn’t popular to play. Now with that being said, every priest that I know from playing classic has 0 interest in playing a shadow priest in TBC. Either they are changing classes all together (mainly shamen) or staying holy/disc. While this is only about 20-30 people, it gives a good indication. But all my caster guildies can’t wait for me to get some shadow priest love and then become their mana battery. In general shadow priests just aren’t appealing to many people, just like every other class outside of warlock and priest isn’t appealing to me.

  • @blazepascal9285
    @blazepascal9285 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This is an appropriate list if you plan on pugging you Za and/or plan on staying in t4. As soon as you understand the need for specific buffs each an every class brings up, this list is out the window.
    Also, feel like it's pretty dumb to pit a specific class like holy paly against "shamans". As a raid leader, I would much rather have my boomkin in my group 4 rather than getting another shaman as, like you said, can swap one of my ele/resto sham for an extra bloodlust.

  • @yeahfrank8758
    @yeahfrank8758 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Feral cat is insane in TBC

  • @TS-uo7nm
    @TS-uo7nm 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where is Arms Warrior?

  • @jgrom6621
    @jgrom6621 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Id say ret is D for alliance c/b for horde

  • @RickRossYuhM8
    @RickRossYuhM8 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It’s so hard idc what to chooseee

    • @Nyloxmc
      @Nyloxmc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      shaman :) windfury go brrrrrr

  • @epicscoreCS2
    @epicscoreCS2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    From some one that actually played TBC 14hours a day:
    Tanks:
    Raid 1.Warriors 2.Paladin 3.Druid
    Dungons 1. Paladin 2.Druid 3.Warrior
    DPS.
    Raid 1.Warlock 2.Rogues 3.Mages
    Dungon 1.Mage 2.Lock 3. Rogue
    Healer
    Raid 1.Paladin 2. Priest 3. Druid 4. shaman
    Dungon 1. Druid 2. Priest 3. Paladin 4 shaman
    Pvp
    BGs 1. Lock 2. Warrior 3. Mage 4. Priest(disc)
    Arena 1. Lock 2. Resto Druid 3. Warrior 5. Mage/rogue 4. Hunter/disc

  • @hugoflores196
    @hugoflores196 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    “Because of heroism”
    And they fucking pump

  • @dex4308
    @dex4308 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will blizzard tbc servers start everyone at level 1 ?

  • @thelordsanguine6383
    @thelordsanguine6383 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    All I really want is a classic-esque version of retail, I want all the classes and races available, with the deliberate and methodical playstyle of classic/tbc.
    As it stands, auto-attacks don't matter, current retail is just ability mash gameplay, there's no chess-like ability use.
    I want mobs to feel like actual threats, 1v3 should be impossible in pve unless you're a tank with some regen, or have good pet management.
    The Lore allows for all the races to have access to all the classes, but there's still so much restriction. Something like Human Shamans, or Pandaren Paladins are in the Lore, but are arrbitrarily excluded. Here's to hoping I'll one day be able to play a holy panda man with a huge hammer.

  • @SeanMckenzie91
    @SeanMckenzie91 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    BS hammers, DST and Abacus with leather heroic/kara/t4 mix gear they hang with rogues in WF group. I'd argue T5 is where they are useless compared to rogues.

  • @Srbelj
    @Srbelj 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where is Metagoblin from?

  • @Calibretto9
    @Calibretto9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Where do Arms Warriors land?

  • @brodelnaz
    @brodelnaz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    U say a lot of people play hunter? It's currently above pally shamy and druid.. that's it

  • @swordwarrior4586
    @swordwarrior4586 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Classic Mages and fury warriors on suicide watch

    • @MaMaximillian
      @MaMaximillian 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cryptomaniac2 but you only want 1 mage in your raid, maybe 2 if you really want to push for it... and you can have a raid with only 1 warrior and normally no more than 2

  • @gaunterodimm8764
    @gaunterodimm8764 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lol, boomkin as D.... yeah, right. Back in the day boomkins were one of the best dps classes next to warlock and elem shaman. Full haste geared boomkin was a mini gun that dealt massive damage + providing mana for healers. During Black Temple/Sunwell Plateau stage each raid had at least 2 boomkins simply for the sake of dps/mana for healers.

    • @DriftNick
      @DriftNick 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      My raid had zero balance druids because they did shit dps.

    • @gaunterodimm8764
      @gaunterodimm8764 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      DriftNick seems u have no idea what boomkin power was... they were gearing mage clothes. During Black Temple/Sunwell they were one of the top caster dps classes.

  • @SilverforceX
    @SilverforceX 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Boomkin is very strong in TBC, I'd take them over another Mage or caster. Competitive DPS, but they also bring the crit aura and the innervate for healers. This isn't like Vanilla when their DPS was subpar 75% of a mage. In TBC they are like 95% DPS of a Mage.
    Correction: Boomkin scales the best with gear for casters due to their talents/spells, so late-patch they actually end up like 110% of other caster DPS.

    • @johnhandcock3242
      @johnhandcock3242 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I heard the opposite. Locks in bis were doing like 2700, and boomy was at like 2k.

  • @sugarspice7746
    @sugarspice7746 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    I see you never played a Boomkin in TBC.

    • @blorgin1
      @blorgin1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Could you explain why you say that?

    • @sugarspice7746
      @sugarspice7746 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@blorgin1 lol no

    • @blorgin1
      @blorgin1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sugar Spice fair enough

    • @MrTsouros
      @MrTsouros 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@blorgin1 lol i my self havent played boom in tbc but in a Pserver tbc evry1 was looking for a boom for theyr huge dmg

    • @guisechad7128
      @guisechad7128 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Their dmg is decent as any other caster, but their 3% meele/range hit chance from faerie fire was the big thing (he also gave 3% spell crit)

  • @SirFunkalicious
    @SirFunkalicious 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    does anyone else have an issue with the sound? Wondering if it's my headphones or his mic, it's hard to listen to. Great content otherwise though, appreciate the vid

    • @Itstime1231
      @Itstime1231 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fine on my phone speaker

  • @Emisia13
    @Emisia13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jesus I just recently found ur channel and have to say it, you have an amazing voice and accent. Its so pleasuring to listen lol.

  • @Kemachris
    @Kemachris 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just hit 60 on My dorf shadow priest. I will be ur personal mana battery goblin 😘

  • @greensmurf221
    @greensmurf221 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I get there's only one slot for an Arms warrior, but you're not even going to put them up?