Which are the best HEALERS in Cataclysm?

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  • @trainingteam5901
    @trainingteam5901 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Your take on Shaman is interesting. Usually people place them last on their Cata healer preference but I always found them to be really fun and effective at the same time so it baffles me that people don't go for them. Sure, you don't have absorbs and Pallies (with Holy Power being a thing in Cata) probably have better longevity but you can still pump a lot of healing. I guess people are always trying to minmax-pigeonhole healer roles and it's that "jack of all trades, master of none" situation that doesn't qualify them as the "best" healer at any specific task. Plus, Elemental is probably one of the most fun dps specs, albeit a bit rng-ish. Overall, sounds like a top class choice to me.

    • @Fankine78
      @Fankine78 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Also people surely remember early tiers rsham which was horrendous. First impressions last, especially bad ones

    • @mr.anderson2257
      @mr.anderson2257 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      cuz their offspec is great and most raids will have them as a flex.

    • @jamesbyrd3740
      @jamesbyrd3740 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      iirc they just suck if you can't healing rain. not even op with rain
      also ele can drop healing rain too...
      so what is it you would say you do here? I guess spirit link.

    • @ramones1314
      @ramones1314 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      they are really fun and can be effective, its just in a 10m setting, where people will often only have 2 healers, you just cant compete with a paladin for single target healing, and then they lack a raid cooldown so they cant even compete with priest or druid. like 100% you can clear the hardest content with them, its just easier with other combos of healers.

  • @naejimba
    @naejimba ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Believe it or not, Disc goes from the most boring healers in Wrath to an absolute joy to play in Cata. In case anyone watching has never tried it, it's actually fun.

    • @mijae1146
      @mijae1146  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah definatley you have the option of two different healing styles, shields and atonement so you can play heavily towards wrath healing or this new style :)

    • @OTPulse
      @OTPulse ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Still most boring speck, by far.

    • @mijae1146
      @mijae1146  ปีที่แล้ว

      I dont like it, prefer Rsham myself!@@OTPulse

    • @leitmotif6854
      @leitmotif6854 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@OTPulse Filtered lmao

    • @Bizarre112
      @Bizarre112 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I disagree. I play all heal specs in Wrath - Disc is by far the most fun to me.

  • @s.t.5993
    @s.t.5993 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It’s kinda sad to have the same holy paladin and disc priest for cata

  • @dcinsc
    @dcinsc 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    From original Cata experience at max content...Atonement Disc + Resto Shaman in 10m is just crazy good.

    • @mijae1146
      @mijae1146  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sounds like a fun combo

    • @Pvt_Detective
      @Pvt_Detective 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Any chance you could elaborate on this combo? We might try it in our guild.

    • @NoxDineen
      @NoxDineen 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would also love to hear a bit more about this combo. I’m narrowing down my healing main and resto shaman’s “con” list currently has “not great for 10 mans” so I’d love to be proven wrong.
      😊

    • @slipknot8441
      @slipknot8441 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Best combo is Atonement Disc plus Resto druid w/ mage for TW..

  • @mr.anderson2257
    @mr.anderson2257 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    hpal was best in cata as well. I think a lot of wrath holy pals will change classes. You can't just spam holy light and never run out of mana. Also Flash of light in cata is much more healing intensive. I think a lot of people will get turned off by the new way of healing in cata. Especially in the beginning when healing feels super weak. Also curious why you dont have your raid frames closer to your character... Less eye movement.

    • @mijae1146
      @mijae1146  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mainly because i rarely heal, and when i do its a Rsham who just Healing Rains and afk :P

    • @mochabearry
      @mochabearry 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mijae1146😂😂😂

  • @Kaneki_Live
    @Kaneki_Live 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Coke on the left side was mesmerizing

  • @ahetzel9054
    @ahetzel9054 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You should do another video like this but for pvp, id be curious to see how they compare in a pvp setting.

    • @mijae1146
      @mijae1146  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A lot of my PvP experience is from old school Cata / MoP era, but i can definatley work on trying to get a definitive list for you!

  • @PelleLolWut
    @PelleLolWut 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I completely agree with everything you said, but do have a slightly different take when it comes to shamans. In my opinion, spirit link totem is just on another level, and it alone makes a well played shaman invaluable, and a perfect partner with a holy paladin in a 10 man stetting. Disc is pretty much almost as good, but that damn spirit link man… too good.

    • @mijae1146
      @mijae1146  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you use and abuse spirit link its rediculously overpowered, but i see so many groups not use it correctly!

  • @patrickmurray3846
    @patrickmurray3846 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    pallies: tbc they were kaio-ken, wrath they were super saiyan, in cata they get bumped up to like super saiyan blue. as far as a resto sham goes, you can spam your big heals all you want as, you can refill your mana with a few lightning bolts. a resto shammy should never go oom unless they are really really bad.

    • @mijae1146
      @mijae1146  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you said a lot of things i dont understand

    • @patrickmurray3846
      @patrickmurray3846 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mijae1146 dragon ball z and dragon ball super

  • @badderen92
    @badderen92 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Feel like Holy Priest would be a must in a 25man. The Divine Hymn healing is absolutely insane if not the best healing CD in the game, also give out good manage cd, tank cd, grips etc and can do some insane healing especially if people have braincells to click Lightwell.

  • @Gamer-jj4bh
    @Gamer-jj4bh 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    cata is one of the best balance expantion u can play any hero and be the best

    • @mijae1146
      @mijae1146  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      100%!

  • @Peterryom
    @Peterryom 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice takes. But resto shammy will be a must on Spine due to SLT

  • @mattward5010
    @mattward5010 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Blood lust is huge deal towards the end of the raid content with chain heals. Dics priest is a most for anything.

  • @XPISTOS-ANESTH
    @XPISTOS-ANESTH 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love a pvp version of healers if you got time❤

  • @miikkamansnerus5403
    @miikkamansnerus5403 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    PLZ some time lapses feels so 1990 to scroll back and forth the video

  • @zera9029
    @zera9029 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a question for any who knows Disc. I absolutely love the pre shielding in Wrath. I love spamming the button and being top on the meter. You mentioned that they still play an absorb based build. Is the playstyle still similar to Wrath as in: You must have knowledge of WHEN damage will come in, and shielding a large group of players will spike your HPS if you do it properly. The atonement build looks very boring, but I really enjoy the inner-workings of how WOTLK played hoping its still around now. Also I noticed when I tried disc on a Pserver, PW:S was only 15 seconds. Does that introduce any awkwardness / clunkiness to ther spec overall? Less PW:S duration basically means less pre-shielding a big damage amp which sounds kinda lame.

    • @mijae1146
      @mijae1146  ปีที่แล้ว

      Its absolutley a thing but with some changes - PW:S is a little more costly and as you mentioned the duration, so a well timed ramp will get PW:S on 10 players, perfect in a 10 man raid team, in a 25 man raid team theres actually a reason to bring 2 disc priests. HOWEVER, unfortunatley becuase of fight length this can be very very mana intensive, and you will have to have a healer that can take over inbetween ramps to allow you to regen.

    • @leitmotif6854
      @leitmotif6854 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      PWS (all healing spells, but PWS especially) cost significantly more in Cata than in Wrath. If you mindlessly spam shields in Cataclysm, you will be oom in under 30 seconds in a 25 man raid. There are no more 1-button healers in Cataclysm. "Knowing when damage is coming out" is significantly easier than correctly iterating an Atonement rotation that correctly makes use of Archangel, but then again if the reason you don't like Atonement is because it's more demanding than Wrath Disc, there isn't really an alternative with -any- Cata healing spec, since all of them are significantly more complex than their Wrath versions.
      Not saying that's why you don't like Atonement btw; plenty of healers hate the idea of doing damage as a healing class, and while that's -objectively- suboptimal play, you're playing a game to have fun so as long as your group is fine with dead healing globals instead of useful offensive globals and you're having fun, you're good.
      TLDR: Disc is still a proactive healer that rewards fight knowledge. The Atonement build rewards fight knowledge even more than the non-DPS build due to how Archangel windows work. There is no one-button build for any healing class and you can not spam PWS no matter your build. PWS is not your only source of shields, since PoH automatically shields an entire group and you'll be using it with Inner Focus every time it's up.

    • @afscrew123
      @afscrew123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You dont focus as much on shielding, mastery is shit for disc and u wanna gear haste/crit and just efficiently smite away as long as heavy healing isnt needed.
      Disc was really bad on some cata private servers due to custom raid difficulty buffs that affected their throughput, so much that People preferred holy just for divine hymn on certain hc mechanics

    • @Dominic-cr4lu
      @Dominic-cr4lu ปีที่แล้ว

      Just say at it is, you like to do zero work and be top of the meters. Disc priests are actually shit even in wotlk. They can do nothing to contribute to a recovery if something unplanned happens , just high useless Numbers. Play holy priest and do it well, youll be respected and people Will remember your name

    • @dcinsc
      @dcinsc 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@eaglesnetwork3750 This is the TLDR you need to read.

  • @greyraingames
    @greyraingames 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These kinds of guides have a lot less value after WotLK. Starting with Cata and going forward, any healer can do any role totally fine.

    • @mijae1146
      @mijae1146  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      100%, but different healers do still hold different roles and skill levels in raids.

  • @Venomancerr
    @Venomancerr 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    holy paladin is buffed since forever because they have 4.3 ability "holy radiance" even tho you play 4.0.6 content. Resto shamy got nerfed from 400% mana tide to 200% mana tide and so on

  • @LulaPlays
    @LulaPlays 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do disc priests still spam power word shield on everyone or only on tank in cata?

    • @mijae1146
      @mijae1146  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mainly will be relying on atonement healing in cata

  • @dcinsc
    @dcinsc 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would 100% carry a Resto Shaman in a 10m and at least 2 in 25 man. If you don't know how to cheese mechanics with Spirit Link Totem then, well...I'm not sure what to tell you.

    • @mijae1146
      @mijae1146  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh i love the idea of rsham in both, i think its not top option for 10 but in 25 id always have one

  • @ramones1314
    @ramones1314 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Holy paladins definitely the best healer. best single target, incredible aoe, and tons of utility. holy priest definitely pumps a lot of HPS and are a good addition to any comp. disc can cheese on some fights like alakir and halfus, but shielding isnt really necessary since cata buffs health pools. its more for the atonement dps and giving PI to your horny mages. sadly, both restos are fitted to being better as the 3rd healer, instead of one of the main 2. shaman cant tank heal like a paladin nor can it pump aoe like a priest, but its a good mix. druid can absolutely do swell tank healing, and a lot of HPS, but they dont have anything to really save people with. if they gotta spam regrowth on you then they fall behind in rejuvs. theyre kind of selfish in a sense.

    • @slipknot8441
      @slipknot8441 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      IMO best healing specs for cata are Atonement Pr, Resto Druid, and Holy Paladin.. Rest are crap.. Honorable mention is resto shaman.. Holy pr is worst

    • @ramones1314
      @ramones1314 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@slipknot8441 then you have a warped opinion

  • @mahdisalmani6865
    @mahdisalmani6865 ปีที่แล้ว

    where do u play cata now?

    • @mijae1146
      @mijae1146  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Currently playing Cata on the Whitemane Server

  • @jamesbyrd3740
    @jamesbyrd3740 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    you drop the rdruid for 2 hpal?

    • @mijae1146
      @mijae1146  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Rdruid is very strong in Cata, we even ran Rdruid / Disc in 10 man for a while

  • @WordofBob
    @WordofBob ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there logs there?

    • @mijae1146
      @mijae1146  ปีที่แล้ว

      Theyve recently introduced logs and they are fantastic!

  • @JayPlaysEverything
    @JayPlaysEverything 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    69th like. I win.