I promised in my class picking guide that I'd cover races, so here it is! Professions are the last big thing that I want to cover, but I'm going to wait until we have more details as there's too much patch-dependent stuff up in the air right now. If you spot any errors or have anything to add go ahead!
I haven’t played wow in 8 years but your videos make me want to get back in. If you have any videos or advice and could share for new players, that would be awesome!
Great overview - just wanna add that bloodelf rogues get a decent energy upfill through the racial and a situationally very handy aoe silence which might be very useful in arena pvp.
I understand they will release TBC on the last patch and the original stats for all bosses (no refs will be done) but they will release the raids in 3 phases
That would you rather for the warlock at the start is too real. Half the horde are undead, the other half are damn warriors, fear might as well just be a cosmetic spell in pvp.
This been a long and wild night, crazy shit happened. I was hella drunk and exhausted, but watching your video and layin in bed just made me so comfortable that I forgot what kind of shit just happened. Thank you Madseason, I appreciate that. Iam going to sleep now.
Best race for wall jumping in BC - Human. Roll a mage and get the rocket boots extreme lite, slow fall, get to anywhere in the game. This is literally all I want from classic. Please. I need my rocket boots extreme lite 😂
I want to play TBC again but then i remember that rogues get cloak of shadows... Flying helps in avoiding them but that class is just 2 much cancer imo.
Yes I started in tbc, was dwarf rogue. Used to win all duels, unless it was an arms warrior that was equally good as using their class. Hit a dodge near the end of the fight and get one shot xD
I haven't played WoW in so many years, but I immediately clicked this video and really enjoyed spending my time watching it. Thank you, MadSeason! Great content, as usual!
So do our Classic Characters come over with us, or do we start all over again? If so, not a single Horde person is picking Troll, Tauren, or Orc because fuck the Crossroads. Did that shit at least 3 times with Orc, Tauren, and Undead. 😒😭😡 If so, it’s only going to be Blood Elves 😂
@@madseasonshow hey mad I really enjoy you’re vides trying to get my dad to watch you but he says you’re voice is boring but I think it’s so “hrjsnfndkdmw” satisfying
When I was a kid in vanilla I used to stack as much spirit as I could on my troll hunter while leveling because I thought it would make me be able to tank mobs without worry
I'll be real I remember being very mad that the alliance got elephants back in 07. But all things considered every base horde mount was cooler than half the ones they had. I also liked their sci-fi leveling zone way more than the blood elf darnassus recolor. Ghostlands was decent but felt like a mix between WPL and alliance duskwood. The only thing that made it fun was leveling up with 4 other paladins like a crusade to take back the holy land.
@@pokeman5000 Calling it a "darnassus recolor" is a joke. They have completely different architecture and the zones feel very unique, (ghostlands might be a bit rehashy but fighting scourge that early is kinda cool).
A couple points about draenei, their racial HoT does scale with spell or healing power from what I've seen online. Also the fact it has a cast time can be useful if you're a caster in pvp situations. You can try and bait a kick/counterspell into the racial to keep your other magic schools open.
Would that not lock you out of holy spells tho? People will not bother to kick it if you are not paladin or priest. Also, don't trust stuff you learn from people online. Remember how many things the private server scene got wrong about classic?
Started playing wow a year before WOTLK was released, Didn't get to experienced BC at all so excited to come back to play one of the best games ahead of it's time
Druids in animal form are considered beasts in terms of beast slayer racial's 5% dmg boost if I remember correctly, they can even be feared by scare beast and seen on the minimap with beast tracking
Anyone else is hopping for the return of blizzardi? That guy’s greetings everyday could put a smile on everyones faces. Then annoying you telling your account has been compromised and he needed your acount name and password to confirm it was you. But thats another story.
I loved Seal of Vengeance during TBC as a human paladin. I leveled as holy, and it scaled very well with spell damage. When I switched to protection, it was great to spread that DoT around for increased threat on multiple mobs. I never played retribution during TBC, so I never knew how much worse it was, but it worked great for PVE.
"Cowpun" as the character name was even better. Sure some might call it lazy for not actually coming up with a pun, but there have been so many by now that MadS treated it like the meme it really is!
I've played WoW for so many years, and never knew that Priests had unique spells for each race. And now I'm thinking of making a third Draenei for that Priest ability lol
Shadowguard is super undervalued, speaking from playing a troll priest in classic in pvp.... Shadow guard out shines devouring plague because of how little of a mana cost it has. With spell power it's so much dmg that can keep being reapplied. Idk how many times my blackout has proc'd on a rogue trying to jump me because my shadowguard ticked! Great video btw!
I love this video! I think shadow guard needs a tiny bit more love though, because (just like lightning shield) if you remember to cast it right before you drink (or like 20 sec before you get in a fight) then its damage per mana spent ratio is the highest in the game at 0 mana spent. So its free damage! You could think of it like "this ability reduces every mob or player youll ever fight's health by x for free with no global". Though its a tiny chore to keep casting but i suppose you could make a macro that includes it somehow.
Something not mentioned is how much better music is in the horde zones. Just hearing it in this video makes you realize how much better music is if you choose horde (and yes I play with music on mostly). But I felt like I had better community experiences on the Alliance side, so I'm tempted to go alliance in BC. I just wish their music didn't suck.
11:59 That downside doesn't happen until so late into the expansion, and until so many months and years have passed, that I think it's a total non-issue. How many human players will reach exalted with every faction? Less than 1% of them. How many human players will save dozens of hours of rep grinding thanks to this? All of them.
TBC is gonna be amazing and hilarious. People complaining about 15 minute dampener games in Slands havent seen arenas going on until server crashes on TBC private servers rofl. Regardless, I'm so excited to play it again and make guides to help the community get a better grasp of what to pick for whatever aspect of the game they wish to play. :) Love the vid Mad, keep it up
I'm rolling warrior for PvP and I'd say this: - Night elf if you wanna be a badass charging people in battlegrounds from the shadows (super effective at guarding flags in AB) - Gnome if you hate mages and wanna improve that matchup. - Undead if you hate warlocks (berserker rage removes fear but not charm, which makes UD good vs warlock but meh against priest) - Tauren if you want an overall good race. The stun is good in most scenarios, the extra hp is nice and the extra attack range is cool for bigger whirlwinds in battlegrounds.
Female Blood Elf will be BiS for making gold. Gotta get that thirsty simp money while mailbox dancing, because how else am I supposed to make gold when bots will monopolize most gathering nodes.
Since orc racial also reduces healing taken you can use it to remove all 5 stacks of the healing reduction poison. This makes it easier to remove the slow poison and makes the rogue have to apply all 5 stacks again
Don’t know if you said but it the troll racial beserking is not just good for auto attacks but also casting so it can come in handy for all casters to get in an extra heal or or damage spell off
I doubt THAT many people were still on dial-up in 2007 but it was a funny joke and good point nonetheless. DSL and cable were somewhat primitive at that time as well. Oddly enough when I tried dial-up on laptops, nothing could disconnect it. People would try to call and it wouldn't get through. I suspect either disconnecting is a feature of external modems or certain landlines which is not the type of landline we had but of course ours was still analog until we finally discontinued it and got VOIP with our cable internet as well as switched away from DSL. Also, admittedly I have mained an orc lock since Classic vanilla because orcs are my favorite fantasy and overall WarCraft race and lock seemed like a cool and useful class but this is very informative overall.
@ 27:55 what song is this.. it brings back memories of my childhood but i cant putt my finger on it pause screen on a 64 game? was it marrio paint? it hurts
I will pick Gnome, Dwarf, Human and Dranei in this exact order. Because we use Alliance as stairs. I didn't include NE, because they might meld when stepping on them
One thing not mentioned here, Holy paladins in pvp benefit a lot from seal of vengueance, as it can help a lot on the damage. I used to spec as a shockadin back in the day and made 2s with another shoka, we could stack 10 of those sov stacks, the damage was insane, we got to 2k rat on 2s.
Never noticed that before, but looks like Blood Elves are the first WoW race who can't be warriors. In vanilla WoW, every single race could be a warrior.
I haven't played WoW in like two years but I still watch a 30 minute video on choosing a class for TBC. What a Saturday.
*race
Stages of getting back into wow
I’m there with you 🤣
Yesterday I've watched 7 hour "QUICK retrospective of elder scrolls Morrowind", these videos about games are just entertaining, even if we don't play.
Same here
3:12 Blood Elf
5:07 Draenei
6:53 Gnome
9:30 Human
13:00 Dwarf
14:29 Night Elf
15:50 Orc
18:10 Tauren
22:00 Undead
24:12 Troll
Thank for another amazing vid MadSeason!
nice
clutch
My pleasure to contribute to MadSeasons hard work. Yes, I'm simping for our R14 champion kekw
You missed the most important race of them all...
0:18 Dog
Thank you for this
I promised in my class picking guide that I'd cover races, so here it is! Professions are the last big thing that I want to cover, but I'm going to wait until we have more details as there's too much patch-dependent stuff up in the air right now. If you spot any errors or have anything to add go ahead!
You ever gonna talk about those polls you did?
engineer gaming
I haven’t played wow in 8 years but your videos make me want to get back in. If you have any videos or advice and could share for new players, that would be awesome!
Great overview - just wanna add that bloodelf rogues get a decent energy upfill through the racial and a situationally very handy aoe silence which might be very useful in arena pvp.
I understand they will release TBC on the last patch and the original stats for all bosses (no refs will be done) but they will release the raids in 3 phases
Isnt it funny how we all KNOW the tbc classes and races?... Yet nothing beats listening to Madseasons smooth voice
He sounds like he’s trying not to wake someone while recording in a room
of sleeping people (not a complaint)
Last time I was this early Sylvanas was still a well-written character.
@Gzus Kreist thats jaina you're saying
Was literally my favorite character until world of warcraft
@@Toyhouze she was fine till after wotlk
ha!
@@feralast7027 so was every one else lol
That would you rather for the warlock at the start is too real. Half the horde are undead, the other half are damn warriors, fear might as well just be a cosmetic spell in pvp.
I went Alliance Warlock because Alliance of course, for Classic and learned quickly PvP was impossible.
More WillE/MadSeason crossover please
@@Yajarobi69 as ud mage, i see that locks do not bother fearing me most of the time
My two favourite Classic Wow TH-camrs in one video this is rad!
The other half is split between warriors and orcs. It's pointless to play Alliance anymore
Seeing the TBC character creation screen brings back old memories from when I was 8 or 9 and started playing WoW for the first time :')
dude you are the best, feels like its 2005 everytime i watch your videos, thank you.
This been a long and wild night, crazy shit happened. I was hella drunk and exhausted, but watching your video and layin in bed just made me so comfortable that I forgot what kind of shit just happened. Thank you Madseason, I appreciate that. Iam going to sleep now.
Glad it could help, there are a few channels I do the same with when I have one of those nights
@@madseasonshow We all need our good night relaxation content in the end
@@Corrupted Als ob einfach mal Corrupted, völlig zufällig drunter kommentiert. Alles klar :D Made my day
@@overdose9832 ahahaha whats up
Best race for wall jumping in BC - Human.
Roll a mage and get the rocket boots extreme lite, slow fall, get to anywhere in the game.
This is literally all I want from classic. Please. I need my rocket boots extreme lite 😂
THATS the dream!
I remember when those were usable in arena...super op!
I want to play TBC again but then i remember that rogues get cloak of shadows... Flying helps in avoiding them but that class is just 2 much cancer imo.
@DrewIsSharing didnt expect to see you here
Yes I started in tbc, was dwarf rogue. Used to win all duels, unless it was an arms warrior that was equally good as using their class. Hit a dodge near the end of the fight and get one shot xD
I haven't played WoW in so many years, but I immediately clicked this video and really enjoyed spending my time watching it. Thank you, MadSeason! Great content, as usual!
Yeees! HE IS BAAAACKKKK!!!
Yep ramping up for the 19th!
Not for long, illuminati has big plans for the world, they are behind covid and the internet censorship.
He's the Bob Ross of video game TH-camrs
Ale że
strasznie ciekawe w wowa gra,teraz mi zaimponowałeś XD sztama!
Im regenerating 5 HP and there's nothing you can do about it!
Hey man just want you to know all these years of watching your channel grow I've really appreciated it and I hope life outside of TH-cam is happy
I'm just rewatching these since the official announcement hyped as hell for tbc!
Every time I find myself burnt out on wow; MadSeasonShow always seems to make a new video and it gets me right back up into the fray :)
“More Casual” still delivers a quality 1/2 hour.
Funny that I ended up watching the whole thing even tho I no longer play and won't play ever again, good vid as always
I honestly think their will be a lot less blood elves during this expansion compared to last time now.
Mainly because the min/max scrubs don't want to reroll.
@@nicholasdougan957 + its not a New race now, so there wont be that "oh wow i must play this human-like race on the red side pog pog"
So do our Classic Characters come over with us, or do we start all over again? If so, not a single Horde person is picking Troll, Tauren, or Orc because fuck the Crossroads. Did that shit at least 3 times with Orc, Tauren, and Undead. 😒😭😡
If so, it’s only going to be Blood Elves 😂
MAD FINALLY POSTEDDDDDDDDD
Enjoy!
omg! ty for the reply! also am enjoying it (:
@@madseasonshow hey mad I really enjoy you’re vides trying to get my dad to watch you but he says you’re voice is boring but I think it’s so “hrjsnfndkdmw” satisfying
@@madseasonshow could it be mad that liked it... 😂
When I was a kid in vanilla I used to stack as much spirit as I could on my troll hunter while leveling because I thought it would make me be able to tank mobs without worry
I stacked stamina as a disc priest over spirit and resilience 🤣
15:15 "... if dying is your speciality..." my WoW career in a nutshell.
18:22 “mooooving on over, next we have the Tauren”😂
AHAAHAH you got the joke
this was the highlight of the vid for me lololol
and his name is cowpun lol
GOAT comment 😂
It's that situation: sorry couldn't resist hahahaha
That was some nice, comprehensive guide, man, great video
Thanks for blessing us with another video Mad!
One note about night elf druids - they can use shadowmeld while shapeshifted in TBC whereas in Classic they can’t.
YES!!! So glad you're going to do this series for BC.
Surprised you didn't start off with, do ya wanna ride an Ostrich or an Elephant.
I'll be real I remember being very mad that the alliance got elephants back in 07. But all things considered every base horde mount was cooler than half the ones they had. I also liked their sci-fi leveling zone way more than the blood elf darnassus recolor. Ghostlands was decent but felt like a mix between WPL and alliance duskwood. The only thing that made it fun was leveling up with 4 other paladins like a crusade to take back the holy land.
@@pokeman5000 Calling it a "darnassus recolor" is a joke. They have completely different architecture and the zones feel very unique, (ghostlands might be a bit rehashy but fighting scourge that early is kinda cool).
@@pokeman5000 Robot Chicken now and forever best mount.
Chocobos... they were chocobos.
back then we made fun of the hordie BE's and their chickens. While us cool horde got to ride wolves.
Thank you for being you MadSeason....you are loved !!!
Using Diablo 2's ACT 1 Town Soundtrack for the review of the undead race is pure genius. I love your videos @MadSeasonShow.
I dont in anyway need the info in this video, but i just wanna chill and listen to the soothing tones of MadSeason
We've missed you good sir. Hope you're well and staying safe. Thanks for the new video!
i like how you made a 30 minute video about how you pick human as alliance and orc as horde.
A couple points about draenei, their racial HoT does scale with spell or healing power from what I've seen online. Also the fact it has a cast time can be useful if you're a caster in pvp situations. You can try and bait a kick/counterspell into the racial to keep your other magic schools open.
Would that not lock you out of holy spells tho? People will not bother to kick it if you are not paladin or priest. Also, don't trust stuff you learn from people online. Remember how many things the private server scene got wrong about classic?
Started playing wow a year before WOTLK was released, Didn't get to experienced BC at all so excited to come back to play one of the best games ahead of it's time
Nice. I can finally know the reasons to once again go Orc hunter
Mine was called "Cumshots" and lasted a while week before the forced name change.
Easily my favorite WoW content creator being a classic nut myself. You should do a TBC armory series. I enjoyed those
Druids in animal form are considered beasts in terms of beast slayer racial's 5% dmg boost if I remember correctly, they can even be feared by scare beast and seen on the minimap with beast tracking
Yes that is also why hunters can fear them.
Update: Alliance and Horde pallies get each others faction specific seals at level 70, per BlizzCon '21.
Awesome, something relaxing to fall asleep to tonight
(love you mate)
Anyone else is hopping for the return of blizzardi? That guy’s greetings everyday could put a smile on everyones faces. Then annoying you telling your account has been compromised and he needed your acount name and password to confirm it was you. But thats another story.
OH yeah baby, time to settle down for a nice 30 minute MadSeason vid
awww yeeeahhh
Clicks on video, looks at other screen with wow classic running, sees druid main. *oh right*, closes video tab.
I stick with forsaken warrior, but i still like to listen to you, and all the work you do for people trying to figure it out.
Lol the only youtuber I watch religiously thanks for another video
I'm just here for the chill voice. Happy Saturday everyone
Same to you! Thx for watching
Thank for posting Mad. Got a little housework done while enjoying the vid
I loved Seal of Vengeance during TBC as a human paladin. I leveled as holy, and it scaled very well with spell damage. When I switched to protection, it was great to spread that DoT around for increased threat on multiple mobs. I never played retribution during TBC, so I never knew how much worse it was, but it worked great for PVE.
Could not have dropped this bomb more perfect. Thanks
You made me do a hard exhale through the nose, on the Moooving on to the tauren. Well played.. Well played!
"Cowpun" as the character name was even better. Sure some might call it lazy for not actually coming up with a pun, but there have been so many by now that MadS treated it like the meme it really is!
I've played WoW for so many years, and never knew that Priests had unique spells for each race. And now I'm thinking of making a third Draenei for that Priest ability lol
Shadowguard + Blackout is amazing. Been great for me in Classic.
Blizzconline statements confirmed that paladins will get both faction specific seals, but the cross-faction one only becomes available at max level.
I dont even need to know how to pick classes or races; or if ill even play TBC... I just love watching your videos haha
bruh wtf my dog did literally the same exact thing 2 seconds before yours, tripped me tf out.
Good Vid! Extra awesome on the music transition! Edit: Linkin Park and Moooooooo! Thanks for the great video
God I've been needing a good 30 minute Madseason Video. ;^;
Love your videos man! Keep up the great work!
The best and only T.V I need to see. GG Madseason. See you in arena, Dblstrain.
Shadowguard is super undervalued, speaking from playing a troll priest in classic in pvp.... Shadow guard out shines devouring plague because of how little of a mana cost it has. With spell power it's so much dmg that can keep being reapplied. Idk how many times my blackout has proc'd on a rogue trying to jump me because my shadowguard ticked! Great video btw!
I’m rolling troll priest just for this reason. Fuck rogues
@@davidcardinal3654 you will, I ranked to 10 on classic then went back shadow and rogues were so fun to fuck with.
nice music. excited for the profession video coz i'm already struggling with planning those :D
I love this video! I think shadow guard needs a tiny bit more love though, because (just like lightning shield) if you remember to cast it right before you drink (or like 20 sec before you get in a fight) then its damage per mana spent ratio is the highest in the game at 0 mana spent. So its free damage! You could think of it like "this ability reduces every mob or player youll ever fight's health by x for free with no global". Though its a tiny chore to keep casting but i suppose you could make a macro that includes it somehow.
Something not mentioned is how much better music is in the horde zones. Just hearing it in this video makes you realize how much better music is if you choose horde (and yes I play with music on mostly). But I felt like I had better community experiences on the Alliance side, so I'm tempted to go alliance in BC. I just wish their music didn't suck.
And what perfect timing, too, Mad, with TBC getting announced
I have no choice but to play BE, as i wanna be horde paladin. So I clicked on this video just to hear that sweet, sultry voice of yours.
Man i dont even play WoW but i love every video of yours
11:59 That downside doesn't happen until so late into the expansion, and until so many months and years have passed, that I think it's a total non-issue. How many human players will reach exalted with every faction? Less than 1% of them. How many human players will save dozens of hours of rep grinding thanks to this? All of them.
Loved the hidden references in the video!
Nostalgia at its finest!
My internet was better back in 2006. No joke
The hidden racial of living with your parents.
THE internet was better
@@no0bbbb normals have ruined the internet
@@pokemonduck chill bro. So much as changed the internet
Experienced video editor, 19 seconds into the final video: "Sorry that is my dog."
TBC is gonna be amazing and hilarious. People complaining about 15 minute dampener games in Slands havent seen arenas going on until server crashes on TBC private servers rofl. Regardless, I'm so excited to play it again and make guides to help the community get a better grasp of what to pick for whatever aspect of the game they wish to play. :) Love the vid Mad, keep it up
"Sorry, that was my Dog." ****SMASHING OF LIKE BUTTON COMMENCES****
seriously, why are we just now finding out about the cute puppy???
Have a dachsy/basset cross puppy. Literally thought it was her shaking her ears rather than Mad's hound.
23:15 A correction. It is 4 times as long.
100% is twice as long.
200% is three times as long and thus 300% = 4 times as long ;)
Cute dog! I was waiting for race guide from you and im really thankful, hope you gonna come back to streaming at tbc :D
I'm rolling warrior for PvP and I'd say this:
- Night elf if you wanna be a badass charging people in battlegrounds from the shadows (super effective at guarding flags in AB)
- Gnome if you hate mages and wanna improve that matchup.
- Undead if you hate warlocks (berserker rage removes fear but not charm, which makes UD good vs warlock but meh against priest)
- Tauren if you want an overall good race. The stun is good in most scenarios, the extra hp is nice and the extra attack range is cool for bigger whirlwinds in battlegrounds.
Female Blood Elf will be BiS for making gold.
Gotta get that thirsty simp money while mailbox dancing, because how else am I supposed to make gold when bots will monopolize most gathering nodes.
Might as well roll Mage while you're at it, selling bath water for extra buck.
knife-eared purple mommies BiS
Lol we do have discord now. Tell them " you want that gold get on disc" and stream.
It works lol
simp bots, they will even take over that
WillE and Madseason releasing a video on the same day! what else could you ask for
32 min of MadSeason
Since orc racial also reduces healing taken you can use it to remove all 5 stacks of the healing reduction poison. This makes it easier to remove the slow poison and makes the rogue have to apply all 5 stacks again
gonna have to remember that, i had no clue that was a thing. thanks!
Don’t know if you said but it the troll racial beserking is not just good for auto attacks but also casting so it can come in handy for all casters to get in an extra heal or or damage spell off
I doubt THAT many people were still on dial-up in 2007 but it was a funny joke and good point nonetheless. DSL and cable were somewhat primitive at that time as well. Oddly enough when I tried dial-up on laptops, nothing could disconnect it. People would try to call and it wouldn't get through. I suspect either disconnecting is a feature of external modems or certain landlines which is not the type of landline we had but of course ours was still analog until we finally discontinued it and got VOIP with our cable internet as well as switched away from DSL. Also, admittedly I have mained an orc lock since Classic vanilla because orcs are my favorite fantasy and overall WarCraft race and lock seemed like a cool and useful class but this is very informative overall.
Truly loving your work sir.
25:30 Aren't druids inside forms beasts too? That would be nice against that turtling healer in bear form
yeah they count as beast when they shapeshift, hunters can fear them using "scare beast".
@ 27:55 what song is this.. it brings back memories of my childhood but i cant putt my finger on it pause screen on a 64 game? was it marrio paint? it hurts
I will pick Gnome, Dwarf, Human and Dranei in this exact order. Because we use Alliance as stairs. I didn't include NE, because they might meld when stepping on them
Not played WoW in years, still here for the voice
One thing not mentioned here, Holy paladins in pvp benefit a lot from seal of vengueance, as it can help a lot on the damage. I used to spec as a shockadin back in the day and made 2s with another shoka, we could stack 10 of those sov stacks, the damage was insane, we got to 2k rat on 2s.
Bald man on break, but will react in the future. I am sure of it.
p.s. Another great piece, Mr. Chadseason. Well done.
Long Madseason videos just touch my soul 😂 🙏🏾
Very thorough thank you, great video.
8:20 incorrect, I target gnomes exclusively. Seeing them peppered with arrows is a wonderful sight
Good background music, love the cosmo canyon theme
The king....has returned
The thumbnail looks very nice
Never noticed that before, but looks like Blood Elves are the first WoW race who can't be warriors. In vanilla WoW, every single race could be a warrior.
My UD DiscPriest is waiting to step foot in outland, I've waited so o long already
Ah man I'm so hyped for blood elves! Love your vids madseason you are making this shitty covid "pandemic" bearable.
I'm really hoping I'm not getting excited TBC classic for nothing. I started in bc and would love to come back as someone with far more experience
Arc torrent also generates mana,rage or energy depending on class on top of the silence.
ive been waiting for this :D