Did Doug Demuro Fail Me With Cars And Bids? The TRUTH Behind Auctioning My Hellcat Online
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- I trusted Doug Demuro, and now, I have no Hellcat. But is he the one to blame? Or
Am I?
To understand how we got here, we have to understand where we came from. This is the tale of how I acquired my rare 6-speed manual Dodge Challenger Hellcat and my experience selling the car on Daddy Doug's website, Cars & Bids. Am I the one to blame ultimately? Let me know in the comments.
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The video was very satisfying ... at first ... and then I was in a sad place, I know those feels, so let me make you feel better. It took me 6 year to build a car once, I sold it for $45,000 then that person resold it for $80,000 and the next person resold it for $160,000 ... feel better yet? Haha
Damn man, that’s brutal
That's why you gotta do the Gotham Garage method. If you haven't watched Rust to Riches on Netflix then you need to. They build a car around that much BUT then they do the best they can to trade it to someone that would compromise and give them something more valuable(which is kinda what you did trading it for less money than you should have). So they basically go to someone that wants what they built and would lose for it instead of someone that just wants to get something to resell or a dealership that wants to make profit.
I would have suicidal thoughts after seeing all that unfold
my grandfather sold a DB5 for 25K in 1990....
@@adamgraham6265 L
" I took the risk" ... well there you go. Personal responsibility.
U didn’t get the point.
Exactly i don't see how "doug failed him" he took it to a auction website and took the risk. This video seems more like his fault than cars and bids "fault"
@@georgediaz34 Oh I think I get the point very well. He is crying because he didn't use his better judgement. Learn from the mistake and move on... or make a video about it.
@@georgediaz34 im pretty sure you don’t get the point no one put a gun to his head and told him to sell it that was his own decision
@@airsoftincompetence got*
Moral of the story: Dealers will always screw you.
@R May buying is one thing but you did not get a stellar deal on a trade in, that's for sure.
@@potatochobit that’s wrong entirely. If YOU are spending YOUR hard earned income, it is up to YOU to do YOUR ‘Due diligence’
Anyone who cries about how much or little their trade was worth After the deal is either a) completely out of touch with the market for it, or b) completely out of touch with the concept that it is completely their own responsibility how much they Sell their trade for, and how they sell it.
@@jordany7018 I've tried to say this so many times. In the age of the internet, you have no excuse for getting screwed. It's YOUR fault if you won't do your research. Yours and yours alone.
@@paulcarmi8130 be responsible for your own ignorance, as I like to say. Lots of people out there, getting used to playing victim and pushing blame the other way, are in for a rude awakening when they get off the Internet.
@@jordany7018 the victim mentality is a parasite that must be cut from our society, the host, or we are doomed.
No chance I would have agreed to a reserve lower that CarMax offer.
It was ultimately my fault for accepting it
@@ElliottAlvis sounds like you were talked (sold) into it though.
@@ElliottAlvis good of you to own up to it, and I feel for you, I was once in that position. Least now you'll never do it again right?
@@ElliottAlvis cars and bids should have never suggested it.
in negotiation there's a concept of BATNA (best alternative to a negotiated agreement) which in this case is the Carmax offer of 47000. The auction reserve should be set as BATNA hence 47000.
Its also gonna suck when several people say " dude, I woulda gave you $60k cash right now".. all lies of course.
Right i would dropped my imaginary 60k right this second dammit, too bad. Hmmph
There have been 5 Challenger hellcats in the past year on BaT, and all of them sold for (or were bid to) the $40-45k range. You got exactly what the market is willing to pay for one.
This is my reaction too... the first thing I would do is look at the lower mileage and 3 years newer Hellcat that sold less than a month before and understand I would not get that much
That’s pretty upsetting I would’ve said hell no after they said $45,000.
He was hoping it went to a private owner he was willing to eat the loss.
He never intended it to end up on a dealers lot.
1972 AMC Ambassador exactly I would’ve sold it somewhere else before it was even started.
yeah, that was his mistake and at least he's owning it. I've been "talked down" by people before and never again. I will opine that I bet the people at cars and bids are former car salespeople and are masters at talking people down.
You could walk into any dealership, the car you want is the grade A numero Uno most valuable and sought after vehicle on the market today. Buy it, take it in next week to the same dealer and the same salesman will tell you "it's a piece of shit, it's not worth anything, you have to accept 50% of what you think it's worth".
I never sign a purchase agreement without a "subject to _______s approval" (used to be my father). That gives me an out. One sales rep said to me once "what's the matter, you not man enough to make your own decisions"? I looked him square in the eye and said "fuck you" and walked out....WHERE YOU GOING....."as far away from you as possible" he just blew 3 hrs of his time and a sale.......
Muskoka Mike great advice👍😂
@@muskokamike127 I really Do not think he thought a dealer was in the bids
I think he went into this expecting a loss but not a steal.
Tiny violins should be playing this whole episode.
Yessssssss ;)
That’s the chance you take with an auction.
Unless you have a really unique car it’s better to sell it yourself privately or to a dealer.
At the end of the day Cars and Bids made their money.
And so will the Subaru dealership
Yep
@R May anyone who can afford this car doesn’t get a Tax refund , we have tax liabilities
@@ElliottAlvis You picked a bad time to sell it. It's 10 degrees here.
In a couple months the market in the northern part of the country would have opened up. That might have helped.
Never sell your car to a dealer... 😂 wtf. You'd be better off auctioning with no reserve
You sound like a guy that broke up with a girl he loved and cared so much for.. want her to be happy and cared for in her next long term relationship but can’t stand the idea that she will go for one night stand frenzy for a few month
Yeah she's really going to take a pounding...and enjoy it 🤣
Very interesting and well said.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂
I’m sorry to hear this Elliott. I love my machines too. My heart goes out to you, brother. If it’s any consolation though... Thanks for the great content!
Gotta make lemonade out of lemons! 🍋 thanks for watching.
@@ElliottAlvis im so sorry for your loss, that was absolutely the worse case scenario. fuck that sucked
@@snsproduc wait until you see tomorrow’s video
You know it’s bad when Hoovie couldn’t save the moment.
Sounds like you've got the right outlook about it, and a lesson learned. The humor and enthusiasm in your videos will more than make up for it!
Obviously Frank Miller shot the intro.
its stylized for sure lol
@@ElliottAlvis I thought I could trust him..
Great video and thank you for sharing. I know and could feel your pain. I’m here for you.
I blame the photographer.
He certainly played a role. Top notch work though. 😉
@@ElliottAlvis What is “plaid”?
@@mitchellbarnow1709 1 : a rectangular length of tartan worn over the left shoulder as part of the Scottish national costume. 2a : a twilled woolen fabric with a tartan pattern. b : a fabric with a pattern of tartan or an imitation of tartan.
@@mitchellbarnow1709 tesla's highest level of performance.
The irony is, he could have taken pics himself and saved money THERE. Serious buyers don't need brochure-quality photos to evaluate a car.
"16 men are going to take it around the block and ring it out until they are done with it. Every lot boy and manager that ever worked at that dealership is going to have their way with it and totally wear it out"
Sounds like gang rape 😥
The dealer is a damned fool if he lets employees take it on joyrides.
That intro was well executed, sorry about the hellcat
Thanks for being so candid about your experience.
Thanks for sharing your “full-disclosure” experience, Elliott. Keep your head up, and good luck with the channel moving forward!
That thumbnail is artwork though 😂 also love the b&w old mystery thriller thing you had going there 😂 you could absolutely pull that off
The thumbnail is a masterpiece. I had a professional make it lol. Thanks man
If you were that attached to it, then you should have kept it. It’s a beautiful car.
Nah fr. Me and my family have made a pact that we will not sell or trade in our 2003 Toyota 4Runner even if it gets flooded or messed up. That car took me to my first day in Pre-School and took me to my last day in High School. It took me to my first day in college and I’m hoping it’ll take me to the day I get my degree :)
Yup... he’s gonna regret this.. heavily I bet.
That really sucks. I hear you and will be here for your future content.
That’s putting yourself out there... The key is that you learned some thing. You and your channel just keep getting better. Bravo
What a bummer! I voted for you not to sell from the beginning! Knowing the whole story now makes it even worse to see it go.
From talking to you yesterday and seeing the video today, I know that you're sincerely bummed.
But let me say this...it's not just any man that can rock a beard AND a turtleneck. They can't take that from you. Godspeed my friend.
Hush Puppies....don't forget the Hush Puppies footwear ;-)
Lesson learned.. never go with a reserve you aren't comfortable accepting. It sucks for you, but you are showing folks what can happen with auctions.
Man Elliot, you killed it with the intro. Fantastic
Yeah, the last day of the auction I was there watching the final bids. I was disappointed by the end result aswell. Never would I thought the car in such a good shape can go for such a low price :(
At least WhistlinDiesel didn't buy it to destroy it lol He just bought a red hellcat to destroy
he hasnt got this one yet and still could he's lookin to buy another.
If I sold a car to whistlindiesel, I wouldn't be too upset. I got my money, and I could also say that the car in his video used to be mine.
@@connorm2177 I love how people cry over his content 🤣
@@Vault13CanteenFNV I like the funny stuff he does, like the hellcat on buggy wheels, but the ones where he destroys stuff just to piss people off are just okay. Either way, people get upset, and I think it's funny too.
I came here to see if this was the car...
Lesson learned... Bids are always a gamble.
Long life to your channel.
You deserve many more subscribers.
I'm also very sorry to hear it. My very very best wishes to your wife - and child! And your Dad. What a great second pair of hands! And . . . Happy Candlemas, from an Australian in Poland!
I love how dramatic all the black and white scenes are. Made my day. Hell, you know what? Subscribed. Might as well get something extra out of having to part with your favourite car.
Well thanks Derek!
Man, what a shame. My heart breaks for you. Hopefully it ends up with someone who appreciates it the way you did, I'll have to follow the VIN and see what happens with it.
How do you follow VINs? Always wondered what happened to my WRX
@@brandonterry4890 honestly, Google works well to see sale listings, and resources like VinWiki and carfax to get more detailed info. Found a few of my old cars with just a Google search.
I did a Google search on my old Lexus and found it on a Ukrainian auto auction site. Wasn't expecting that.
@@brandonterry4890 can use the vinwiki app
Good video, Elliot!
Been waiting for this
This video breaks my heart for you. So sad to see such an incredible example of an already great car have such an unfortunate fate. I love seeing your videos, keep up the great work. Sorry it had to end like this.
If he loved the car so much he would have kept it. If he cared so much about who bought it, he would have sold it privately. Carmax is a "dealer" too. Carmax employees can take "joyrides" too.
Jesus, man. Nobody died here. He just got $2k less than he could have gotten
I know how you feel. I tried to sell an amazing car in the site and I’m so glad I didn’t sell it on cars and bids. I wanted to see the car go to an enthusiast. I wanted to sell it on cars and bids but I ended up selling the car a few hours after the auction ended to a local buyer who absolutely loves the car. I bought my dream car on cars and bids so I really wanted to sell a great car on the site. O’well. You gave some great advice. Don’t sell your vehicle on any auction site unless you are comfortable with all the details.
Thanks for sharing your story with us! Subed and liked
Tough luck. Keep your head up, bigger and better things are coming...
Don't worry Elliot there's something bigger and better coming❤️
Thanks Melvin. I’m trying to look on the bright side myself!
I’m bummed out for ya man. Hit me when you brought up the dealership “detailing” the car, lowest man on the totem pole burning the paint with the buffer.
The intro is...Genius WOW...You should do it more often......The car deal is just damn sad.....Thanks my friend...!
Great video man! I wish you the best and I look forward to seeing what you do with the channel👍
Thanks man
Pretty sure most of us have left money on the table when selling or trading a car. I know I have...
It's a couple of grand, don't look back. Keep your eyes looking through the windshield.
That’s the goal. Trying to stay positive!
13:20 “Is this Doug demuro’s fault? Absolutely Not!” Title of the video “Daddy Doug made me cry”
This video is kinda stupid
😂😂😂😂Awesome Video Elliott
Thanks Wesley!
No problem sir what ever happens happens for a reason. Best of luck. Stay Happy ❤
It did make reserve though, so cars & bids did there job ultimately and the car sold.
I'm going to watch your video first and then back to Hoovie's! ;)
What kind of cigars are you smoking?
They look tasteful..
Haha nvm
I took top billing over Hoovie? Awesome! lol
@@ElliottAlvis I watched yours first too brother....hoovies vid disappointed me
Keep up the good content & I am more than confident you will purchase another dream car of yours & pass it along when you are done with it in a matter that will make you even happier :)
I’m the new sub bro love the content
Your right about the hellcats
3:14 i still dont see any around and theyve been out now for years :(
His is the nicest condition Hellcat from that year.
“We'll Always Have Wichita, Heckcat”
yellowsock ....what the hell is a goddamn "Heckcat"?!
@@branon6565 it was the name on the plate!
Top tip. Never, ever, ever go against your gut feeling. It's always going to be better than going with someone else's advice.
HAHAHA love the intro. its sad to see it go for that price after you treat it like your chid. but new things are to come and we should be exited for it! keep the hard work
“Steven’s Creek Nissan” has it for 54,888 😭
One of the local dealers in my area, the photos on their website make it look like a bottle of silicone spray exploded inside it :(((
I think what you got on C&B makes sense considering a 2019 with 400 miles sold for $54k in December..
Agreed. And a 2017 sold for 44k back in September. Auto, but 3 years newer and still low miles.
What a bummer! ☹️ Good luck with the future projects.
damn. the dealership sale hurts the most. I'm glad you took the high road, and still have a good attitude towards Doug and the site. i did NOT want to have to cancel Doug today.
The sad thing is if you held it for 25 years more, watched it become a true rarity, because you know every other one would have been wrapped around a lamppost by its sixth owner or scraped for a Tesla. You could have then sold it by interview, like a rare BMW for 200 grand.
I feel for you man.
Oh, man. That's a gut-punch
That hit me right in the pit of my stomach. Sorry you had such a bad experience. Looking forward to what you can do with the cash. Take care.... Stay safe!
Thanks Bill
Thanks for this video. Was looking for input and review on these auction sites with low reserve prices. They accepted my car but too low of a reserve for my liking so I told them thanks but no thanks and will list privately. Instead! Thanks for saving me from making the same mistake you did!!
In the context of this thumbnail, Doug’s smile looks kind of sinister. I can’t imagine if Doug was a jerk in real life.
It would shatter my dreams
Thankfully he’s not, met him and his wife in Nantucket in 2017. Genuinely nice and down to earth guy. Sorry to hear about the hellcat, but I know the future of this channel and your garage is bright.
@@derekchisholm972 did he show you his wife's quirks and features?
@@mikewelch3747 😏😏🥵🥵🥵
@@derekchisholm972 What does his wife look like>?
This is a lesson in what goes on behind the scenes and a reminder to stick to your guns. it sucks elliot, sorry you went thru this. Cars and Bids was making the best agreement for them.
Great work!
I’m sorry that it didn’t work out the way you wanted
Thanks Sock
I totally feel for you. My 2016 Hellcat was stolen after almost 2 years of owning it and I am still heartbroken after a year. Love the car.
The question is: why in the hell anyone sells a car that person loves so much
He literally explained it in the video.
Someday you'll understand that as an adult, sometimes you need to make decisions you don't want to, but you have to.
@@thomasjohannesen1003 that's sad, I hope I can stay like this
Go AMD Ryzen for your new computer, the best for editing. ;)
So sorry it worked out the way it did, Elliott. This is heartbreaking... Try not to worry. I bet the Hellcat will find its way into the hands of someone who will truly love it and will take care of it with the same heart and soul that you did. In the meantime, here’s to moving on and looking ahead. You’ve got a little girl you can pour your heart and soul into even more now, and that’s more valuable than anything... On a side note, your production values rock!! Loved the film noir style...
Don't be to bummed Elliott. Your channel is taking off and one day you will be able to have any car you want. This is just the beginning
Thanks man
Heh. Mr. Mini-Winwiki :D
7:00 is where anything you actually want to hear starts. Thank me later. Also, there have been multiple no sales on that site, you should’ve gone no reserve, of course there wasnt any interest because the reserve never lifted, that pushes away bids. Im not a daddy doug fan thats just the reality of any auction site.
RIP Hellcat... and good luck with your new ventures Elliot 👍🏻
Sorry the auction didn’t go how you wanted. Im glad you’re able to put money back into the production. I cant wait to see what possible project cars you can buy as well as fixing the cars you already have. Love the content
Elliott Noir, the best video style from a Notary
Never love anything that can't love you back.
First time I have seen any of your videos... I couldn't hit subscribe fast enough...! Thank you for sharing, my heart goes out to you and I look forward to what you do next..!
Thanks Kurt 🙏🏻 ❤️
That intro was genius.
Yet I wish it didn't come from a point of pain. Completely understand the wanting for a car to go to a great home, & have it end up with idiots & absolute unappreciative fools.
I am sorry for what happened, but may you & your channel grow stronger than ever.
Keep your family close!
😭
I blame the collapse of the Wichita Buick engine mount market...or the Wichita collapsed Buick engine mount market...whatever...
Hmm, you make a good point there..
I know a guy...
@@100PercentJake yeah, but he has sewage in his basement...
Appreciate the honesty. Rarely do I see an honest thoughtful review of something that didn’t go as planned. Definitely a rad car. Now gamble that bimmer! 33” tires would be perfect....
Incredible video, Elliott!
Thanks Mitchell
Does Doug know the car Dealer?
most likely
Imagine the dealership ends up selling it to OJ
Hey Elliott, sad news...I can relate to the attachment formed with your first new car... and mine wasn't even near the same caliber. The results of the auction were surprising to say the least.....But look at this awesome content it has spawned. Your ability to produce high quality, humorous videos continues to be the real story here. Thank you for your hard work and risk taking on our behalf. We are all looking forward to your next episodes.
why did is the editing so GOOD
Cars and Bids is a buyers market site. and ultimately it's worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it.
I'm gonna be brutally honest, this video seemed like it was more for you to blow off steam about being mad you didn't get what you wanted for the car. Knowing full well that if you really were serious about getting top dollar you could have sold independently.
3-time C&B auction winner who has met some sellers with similar stories. Well, with the exception of the dealer part in my case. Thank you for sharing this. Not an easy subject to address.
Funny intro man!
Thanks man!
I once sold my IROC to help put my sister through college. It gutted me to do so, as that was (and still is} my favorite car, but in the end was the right decision. I have no doubt that you ignored that "feeling" in your gut to go with a higher reserve, and now regret it. Let's just blame Tyler for lower than should be final sale bid.
Yes, let’s blame Tyler. Lol
Damn. I would have rather you sold it to whistlin diesel... at least we’d see more of it before it got destroyed.
That was Elliot's hellcat that idiot destroyed ???
My car was just accepted today on carsandbids. I was already on the fence about them lowering the reserve price by $4000, and I think this confirmed my fears. This story is what I've been afraid of, this feels like a sign. I feel for you, more than you know. Thanks for the great video
This is the most underrated channel I ever seen.
This entire video: "I sold my dream car. And now I'm sad."
Stop cryin' dude. You entered a contract, the contract was fulfilled, and now you're upset with the terms of the contract.
Cars & Jizz, better call it :s
so sorry. your story is really very heart wretching for us that love our cars
I was watching the bidding at the end right there with you. It crushed me to see that number for you. Way to look on the bright side with more time at home with the wife.