@@jonpetter8921 Yep, we bought one as well, but it was marketed as the 3rd icon in a row after Beetle and Golf. The ID.2 may have a better chance at becoming that.
But you would've had to wait like 6-7 more years. Actually, I'm not even sure they would've been able to develop the ID.2 if it wasn't for their experiences and feedback from the ID.3
Everyone has their own opinions. But I feel in my opinion it's a pretty good looking EV. This I.D. model type has a much more lively, serious yet reserved type of design it's offering. With this I.D. it looks more like a performance vehicle like the Polo, Golf GTI, and especially the R. The price is what attracted me even more for all that this wonderful piece of innovation is offering. Spectacular vehicle. Thank you for doing a video that fast since the livestream. 😁👍👍👍
It looks great! My car has been a Golf MK4 that I've owned for 20 years and this could be my first BEV. It's so refreshing to see a new BEV launch that is not a bloody SUV. Only 2 buttons on either side of the steering wheel controls? That seems an oversight. Seeing as the buttons are real buttons then an extra two on the top of each side would double the usefulness
Yes, 2026 on the street is late. But maybe - just maybe, they can get it out earlier and over perform? 🤔 Let us hope that. It coukd be our first 'stromer' - love the word - as our Toyota Avensis is 23 years old.... Per (DK)
Expected torsion beam instead of multilink in more affordable car, and was almost spot on predicting the wheelbase and dimensions by looks of ID2 test mule. 😎 490l storage for a 4-meter compact is impressive, this is where pure EV shines! Kudos for fast upload! 🤘
Nothing really bad about torsion beam, I had it in my company car Focus and I drove that car pretty “enthusiastically “ and you wouldn’t have known. Great car to drive. Granted, this was on smooth Swiss and German roads.
Thanks, as ever, for your prompt & helpful coverage. It would be bonkers to get too excited now, though: the market in 3 years' time will be much tougher than it is today.
I like it a lot. A Polo EV with 450 km range! That could be a new people's car :) The one thing I don't like is the stearing wheel. Why only those rollers and no more buttons?
What if for this price you dont get 450km range? You might only get some 250/300 max...Why would they offer a big battery for this low price? There have to be something expensive that they wont give in this version. Lets wait and see.
@@MRCDF7 suspect this will be the price for a smaller battery version and possibly around 30k for the larger pack still a fair price to compete with MG4
Anticipate the turning radius to be like the e-Golf. This is an MEB+ of the e-Golf @ a 2-door. So it is 1/2 way between an e-Golf & a Polo... Expect this to be a Europe only car.
Not a chance in hell we get this in North America. Regarding regen FWD vs RWD, it's true. I own a Soul and an Ioniq5. You cannot keep the Ioniq5 in i-Pedal if the road is slippery. That's why they've put a Snow Mode on the Ioniq5. Regen then is at 1 max. You can keep regen at 3 on the Soul without issues.
tesla will already have model 2 in the streets by the time VW will show the first production ID2, with miles ahead software and tech, and charging network. What are you talking about?
According to some information, the Tesla 2 will cost the same as the ID 2, but since no car is on the market yet, it's best to wait and see. We could see from Tesla's price cuts on the Model 3 and Y that no other manufacturers followed suit. If now VW also considers a significantly cheaper car, we may see a new trend.
@@andrewchron I will hold my breath knowing Teslas time frame :D..... and charging netwok is not a reason to not to buy non Tesla in most EV nations like Norway, Germany. Finally the "miles ahead in tech" is a myth now, true 3, 4 years ago not now anymore.
@@jonpetter8921 I have a model 3 LR and a cupra born 77 kwh and comparing the tech , software , mobile app etc is a joke , there is no competition whatsoever. The only reason that I have not sold the born is the more compact dimensions and far better turning circle. Other than that , tesla all the way now that they have sorted out their initial issues
Impressive specs considering the price. But I actually like the look of my ID.3 more. (And the RWD) That said, I'm also one of those people that never got warm feelings about the VW Golf and I'm sure those folks will prefer this design.
I was originally all set for getting an Id.3 but with the stupid lead times, vw jacking up the prices, and screwing around with the specs I got cold feet. This really seems like the next gen id.3, I guess I’ll keep my ICE car for a bit longer and wait for this.
I think the refresh ID3 is the last one; and then they'll re name the next redesignd vehicle the Golf. indeed, wouldn't surprise me if this ID2 ends up being called a Polo
Sadly same width than the ID3. All other things suits very well. NICE I'm pretty sure, that the box in the trunk can take a second motor. If this car is available soon enough it might be a game changer for a lot of Golf drivers.
Makes me miss my '16 e-Golf Premium (just means it had better seats and a heat pump) that had ONLY 85 miles of range...but this is so much better. VW would be foolish to not sell it in the US that will change a lot of peoples' minds, the price.
"We will keep the Golf name in some way" *Makes an ID concept car that looks suspiciously like a Golf" I wouldn't be surprised if this is called the ID. Golf
Hi Chris this does look nice and it's got a rear wiper take that MG, would hope that battery tech might have improved in two or three years time to give us longer range in a smaller physical size pack to make a smaller practical every day car for the masses, will definitely be on my list of EVs
Any mention of battery chemistry? LFP perhaps? Looks good, suggest they are aiming at the mass market rather than early adopters and early mass market crowd, if it looks like a Golf and has better performance it could sell very well what is needed in the EV market that seems to be loving their massive SUV EV's well outside of the EU at least.
Pretty impressive! I like the Golf 6 look, 2026 is a little to late though. Nice steering wheel ergonomics . fwd in a EV is just 🤦♂️ Really curious how the ID2 compares to Tesla Model 2.
Great looking car, probably something the ID.3 should have been from the very beginning. The car will be a perfect substitute for a VW Golf. On the other hand, the software quality will be a dealbreaker, and obviously, whether the Chinese will not be able to bring something similar sub 20k €. It also seems to me that the start of delivery in 2026 is a bit late. There is already MG4 on the EU market, and BYD will arrive with its Dolphin. They should have had it on the market already today, and I would not have to worry about their future.
Going from a base battery to the 450 km one (58 kWh?) should not be that much, remember at 200 EUR per kWh current sales price a 20 kWh difference would only mean 4000 EUR aand VW wants to eventually reduce the battery or cell price by 50 % with the unified cells.
Because it's out of date for today nevermind in 2025 possibly as a 2026 model. 😀 I'm glad it will hopefully someday exist though. Vag needs all the help it can get to survive the ev transition&#endoftheiceage 👍🏻
Great! It looks good and ordinary people will be able to buy a new inexpensive electric car that already has a decent operating range. But me, jealous of it, I'm still waiting for battery preheating to my ID3.
This is a 5 door car, the rear handles are "hidden" at the windows, like with some other brands. Probably no 3 door version despite the fact that in average less than 1,5 persons use a car.
The ID3 was really "mehhhh". I own a Tesla Model 3 RWD and am really happy with it. But i must say. This ID2all is ROCKINGGGGG. I really love everything about its design its practicallity. Its amazing. VW Polo is very good selling car in Netherlands. This will sell VERY GOOD here in Netherlands. I drive a Tesla and i can say this is amazing. First time im excited about Volkswagen EV. Finally some HOPE from VW.
I really hope this comes to the US, there are no good looking affordable electric cars currently available. Closest thing to this is the Chevy Bolt, but that looks like crap :)
We need to see what 25k price actually gets. what we see, we have to assume; is a relatively high spec version... PS is there no HUD? I see zero mention of it anywhere: Shame; Id miss that from my ID3: Also... No ski hatch... (though I guess its not long enough so they'll argue to use the front seat folded down etc; but that's not too useful if you have passengers!
I believe that there's going to be also a next gen ID.3 (MEB+) so it's kinda pointless to compare the current ID.3 to ID.2 that will be on sale in 2026 or so. Maybe!
Looks promising for next gen But the question what specs will the 25k version get and how much will it cost fully loaded Also will Tesla get its 25k car before 2026 !
@@JPetr94 we just have to wait and see, Tesla is currently has better production process and faster deliveries, also a 25K tesla isn't Cybertruk this car had many complications 2026 is still 3 years from now :D we really just have to wait and see
The design is pretty dull, unlike the ID.3 which I really like and the facelift even better, but other than that it looks promising. It's taller than the Polo or Golf by aprox. 9cm which I believe is the height of the battery pack, so not necessary more headroom.
@@backwoodsbungalow9674 after watching the hole video I think is right🤯, the space in the bottom of the boot is enormous because all the components are in the front
I mean it all sounds great and I think these type of cars (small, affordable, efficient) are exactly what we need. But available in 2026?? That is too long, the Chinese automakers will already flood Europe with affordable and practical cars with high build quality. Seems like sluggish acting from VW. If they had started working on it on par with the id3 or right after it’s launch, the id2 would be launching later this year. Anyway I really like it, but it will probably arrive late
"2ALL" - cute. The world very much needed this. Heh, VW will earn accolades from Nikki Gordon-Bloomfield - she always harps about EV manufacturers neglecting lower market segments. 😀
I don't want to wait until 2026 for this!
Finally VW. That‘s the way to go. No more stupid urban tanks a.k.a. SUV.
Never understood the SUV trend, what is the need of a huge SUV when you live in a city?
yes amen!
I don’t believe they are coming to the U.S. sigh. I sincerely hope I’m wrong!
Feels very much like a second, much better attempt on the ID.3... Basically what ID.3 was supposed to be that whole time. Looks really promising.
ID 3 still sells for a 1. attempt.
With only 4 Meters its a different segment, its like Polo vs Golf but maybe a hint where the real ID3 facelift is going
@@jonpetter8921 Yep, we bought one as well, but it was marketed as the 3rd icon in a row after Beetle and Golf. The ID.2 may have a better chance at becoming that.
@@unextro Isn t it too soon to judge ? I don t think VW thought the Bettlee will be an absolute icon 3 years after its creation....
But you would've had to wait like 6-7 more years. Actually, I'm not even sure they would've been able to develop the ID.2 if it wasn't for their experiences and feedback from the ID.3
Everyone has their own opinions. But I feel in my opinion it's a pretty good looking EV. This I.D. model type has a much more lively, serious yet reserved type of design it's offering. With this I.D. it looks more like a performance vehicle like the Polo, Golf GTI, and especially the R. The price is what attracted me even more for all that this wonderful piece of innovation is offering. Spectacular vehicle. Thank you for doing a video that fast since the livestream. 😁👍👍👍
It looks great! My car has been a Golf MK4 that I've owned for 20 years and this could be my first BEV. It's so refreshing to see a new BEV launch that is not a bloody SUV.
Only 2 buttons on either side of the steering wheel controls? That seems an oversight. Seeing as the buttons are real buttons then an extra two on the top of each side would double the usefulness
looks great, this will be the car the id3 was meant to be. I just wish it would release sooner ;(
Yes, 2026 on the street is late. But maybe - just maybe, they can get it out earlier and over perform? 🤔 Let us hope that. It coukd be our first 'stromer' - love the word - as our Toyota Avensis is 23 years old.... Per (DK)
Expected torsion beam instead of multilink in more affordable car, and was almost spot on predicting the wheelbase and dimensions by looks of ID2 test mule. 😎
490l storage for a 4-meter compact is impressive, this is where pure EV shines!
Kudos for fast upload! 🤘
Nothing really bad about torsion beam, I had it in my company car Focus and I drove that car pretty “enthusiastically “ and you wouldn’t have known. Great car to drive. Granted, this was on smooth Swiss and German roads.
Looks very promising and I bet will be a top-selling model!!! Very very nice car and they have plenty of time to make user-friendly software ))
Amazing mindblowing gamechanging!The Volkswagen group is love!
Reminds me of the Seat Ibiza Cupra Sport GTI from the 1990s. As I kid I loved the luminous colours of Seat's performance cars.
Yes I was thinking of the Ibiza too
Very nice........2025 end is pathetic but it has made my list.
Thanks, as ever, for your prompt & helpful coverage. It would be bonkers to get too excited now, though: the market in 3 years' time will be much tougher than it is today.
I like it a lot.
A Polo EV with 450 km range! That could be a new people's car :)
The one thing I don't like is the stearing wheel. Why only those rollers and no more buttons?
There's 2 buttons under each roller
What if for this price you dont get 450km range? You might only get some 250/300 max...Why would they offer a big battery for this low price? There have to be something expensive that they wont give in this version. Lets wait and see.
@@MRCDF7 suspect this will be the price for a smaller battery version and possibly around 30k for the larger pack still a fair price to compete with MG4
Give me 1000kg towing too and that's all I need.
I really like this thing I'm just disappointed that it's going to be so long before it's available we need cheap EVs now.
Why do we need cheap evs now?
This is simply a move to save their stock. "Everything will be better in the future, buy now."
3:00 AWD regen in VW; Skoda Enyaq VRS can do up to 109 kW regen. That is pretty good. I think VW ID-4 GTX can do the same.
Still weak compared to Tesla, Kia and Hyundai.
I don't care about front or rear wheel drive, just want cheap 🙂. Thanks for the video.
Much to big middle console, love that one in my ID.3, too.
Anticipate the turning radius to be like the e-Golf. This is an MEB+ of the e-Golf @ a 2-door. So it is 1/2 way between an e-Golf & a Polo... Expect this to be a Europe only car.
It will be a 4 door. You can see shut lines at the rear.
Looks great
Not a chance in hell we get this in North America.
Regarding regen FWD vs RWD, it's true. I own a Soul and an Ioniq5. You cannot keep the Ioniq5 in i-Pedal if the road is slippery. That's why they've put a Snow Mode on the Ioniq5. Regen then is at 1 max. You can keep regen at 3 on the Soul without issues.
I saw interview with the CEO - this is not going to US. too small he says
If VW is true about the price, this is a very welcome news. Will change the EV industry in a way Tesla couldn't.
tesla will already have model 2 in the streets by the time VW will show the first production ID2, with miles ahead software and tech, and charging network. What are you talking about?
Way better interior than the current ID3 I must admit , though.
According to some information, the Tesla 2 will cost the same as the ID 2, but since no car is on the market yet, it's best to wait and see. We could see from Tesla's price cuts on the Model 3 and Y that no other manufacturers followed suit. If now VW also considers a significantly cheaper car, we may see a new trend.
@@andrewchron I will hold my breath knowing Teslas time frame :D.....
and charging netwok is not a reason to not to buy non Tesla in most EV nations like Norway, Germany. Finally the "miles ahead in tech" is a myth now, true 3, 4 years ago not now anymore.
@@jonpetter8921 I have a model 3 LR and a cupra born 77 kwh and comparing the tech , software , mobile app etc is a joke , there is no competition whatsoever. The only reason that I have not sold the born is the more compact dimensions and far better turning circle. Other than that , tesla all the way now that they have sorted out their initial issues
Impressive specs considering the price. But I actually like the look of my ID.3 more. (And the RWD) That said, I'm also one of those people that never got warm feelings about the VW Golf and I'm sure those folks will prefer this design.
Cheers! Looking forward to another video
VW and we need this car asap...not 2 years from now.
Believe the price when it's actually launched¡!!🤔
Exactly...
I want one, baaaaaaad,, 🥰❣
Please VW, dont change a thing. 🙏
Its beautiful.
I was originally all set for getting an Id.3 but with the stupid lead times, vw jacking up the prices, and screwing around with the specs I got cold feet. This really seems like the next gen id.3, I guess I’ll keep my ICE car for a bit longer and wait for this.
Look forward to the handover from design team to software team.... Good luck guys!
WTF... why VW didn't do this before?? i can't wait till 2026
Good review Chris. It will be interesting to see how the ID.3 evolves by 2026 or it may be eclipsed by the 2.
I think the refresh ID3 is the last one; and then they'll re name the next redesignd vehicle the Golf. indeed, wouldn't surprise me if this ID2 ends up being called a Polo
Wow... This looks great. But - let us see when it is on the street and the bill is paid 😔
FWD means way more boot space.
2026, nah so late. I would need it yesterday!
3:20 read again. ID-2 is a spaceous as a Golf, not as ID-3.
Yes. As spacious as a Golf.
ID2all and ID4you ❤️😅
Sadly same width than the ID3. All other things suits very well. NICE I'm pretty sure, that the box in the trunk can take a second motor. If this car is available soon enough it might be a game changer for a lot of Golf drivers.
Makes me miss my '16 e-Golf Premium (just means it had better seats and a heat pump) that had ONLY 85 miles of range...but this is so much better. VW would be foolish to not sell it in the US that will change a lot of peoples' minds, the price.
Love the retro dials at 5.36
Wonder what the rev counter will represent on ev...
Why not let it show the revs? :)
It could be power meter as well like in e-Golf
"We will keep the Golf name in some way"
*Makes an ID concept car that looks suspiciously like a Golf"
I wouldn't be surprised if this is called the ID. Golf
Hi Chris this does look nice and it's got a rear wiper take that MG, would hope that battery tech might have improved in two or three years time to give us longer range in a smaller physical size pack to make a smaller practical every day car for the masses, will definitely be on my list of EVs
looks really good on the outside but i wish they could have made some design with the screens to integrate them in to the dash.
Any mention of battery chemistry? LFP perhaps? Looks good, suggest they are aiming at the mass market rather than early adopters and early mass market crowd, if it looks like a Golf and has better performance it could sell very well what is needed in the EV market that seems to be loving their massive SUV EV's well outside of the EU at least.
The small 38kwh Battery will be LFP, the larger 56kwh will be NMC
Hope it has LFP. I own a Tesla with LFP battery and im very happy with it.
Pretty impressive! I like the Golf 6 look, 2026 is a little to late though. Nice steering wheel ergonomics . fwd in a EV is just 🤦♂️
Really curious how the ID2 compares to Tesla Model 2.
Sounds fantastic!
But there's no sound off it all! It's electric! :-)
@@francisdoran971 I’ll take instant torque vs motor music any day but this is a daily driver affordable hatch anyways.
Your new “studio” looks great. No more bathrope….
Those guitars, what are they?
Great looking car, probably something the ID.3 should have been from the very beginning. The car will be a perfect substitute for a VW Golf. On the other hand, the software quality will be a dealbreaker, and obviously, whether the Chinese will not be able to bring something similar sub 20k €. It also seems to me that the start of delivery in 2026 is a bit late. There is already MG4 on the EU market, and BYD will arrive with its Dolphin. They should have had it on the market already today, and I would not have to worry about their future.
Going from a base battery to the 450 km one (58 kWh?) should not be that much, remember at 200 EUR per kWh current sales price a 20 kWh difference would only mean 4000 EUR aand VW wants to eventually reduce the battery or cell price by 50 % with the unified cells.
Tesla pays like 5 to 6K for the 60kWh LFP batteries.
Looks great. Hope the range really is long, to attract petrol lovers
Very interested to see the spec of the ID1 when it appears.
Charge port moved up to the front of the car, which sort of makes sense for front wheel drive, I guess.
It did? Where did you see that
@@BatteryLife Funny but there's no charge port on the vehicle shown to the public. But on the platform sketches there is one.
@@BatteryLife At 6:51 of your own video where it shows the powertrain. I see a charge port right next to the front passenger tire.
The question is how much Watts does the 230 V socket supply. Enyaq also has one, but...
Thanks for an informative video. Is it possible that it can be ready for production before 2026?
Can it be fitted with a towbar?
Sorry, NextNews got me first 😂.
Rear looks like the old Ibiza with smaller Lights.
I know. I started filming and editing at 4:30 after work. Was done now.
Great to see but I fear that in nearly 3 years when its released, it'll be out of date already.
Because it's out of date for today nevermind in 2025 possibly as a 2026 model. 😀
I'm glad it will hopefully someday exist though. Vag needs all the help it can get to survive the ev transition&#endoftheiceage 👍🏻
Why is it not just called ID.2, what does the ALL bit extension of the name mean?
Because it is a concept, not the actual car.
Great!
It looks good and ordinary people will be able to buy a new inexpensive electric car that already has a decent operating range.
But me, jealous of it, I'm still waiting for battery preheating to my ID3.
With 48V system perhaps....
Has anybody seen the charging port? I expect behind the right front wheel. There were pictures of the MEB small with an outlet on the right front
Reminds me of the MG4 inside. Hope they do a 5 door. Still enjoying our id.3.
Laughs! I just said the same thing on the live launch. Soon as I saw the single dial in the cockpit
Clearly a 5 door in the video.
with all that space maybe they can add a spare tire?
Thanks for a clear description. Any 5 door option?
This is a 5 door car, the rear handles are "hidden" at the windows, like with some other brands. Probably no 3 door version despite the fact that in average less than 1,5 persons use a car.
@@mattg432 Ah! Thanks.
Where do I sign?
PS, I want it now!
Love your reviews...do you know if the VW ID 4 will get the Version 4 software which is coming with the ID 7 ??
The ID3 was really "mehhhh". I own a Tesla Model 3 RWD and am really happy with it. But i must say. This ID2all is ROCKINGGGGG. I really love everything about its design its practicallity. Its amazing. VW Polo is very good selling car in Netherlands. This will sell VERY GOOD here in Netherlands. I drive a Tesla and i can say this is amazing. First time im excited about Volkswagen EV. Finally some HOPE from VW.
Very Nice car...
It will be interesting to see how much of that will be descoped.
Load off bollocks soon as it goes on sale the price will Rocket they always do
Cool, but I’m more interested in the ID7 🤷♂️😸👍
I really hope this comes to the US, there are no good looking affordable electric cars currently available. Closest thing to this is the Chevy Bolt, but that looks like crap :)
Love this, but I wish VW would simply call it the 2026 Polo.
I like it because it's smaller - not sure if I'll trade my Megane E-Tech for it though. Also the new Renault 5 or Tesla Model 2 to consider.
I hope the ID.3 will get the same screen and OS as the ID.2.
Yeah its so much nicer than ID3
i mean i love it all apart from the god awful name
Internal is great. External is really dull.
We need to see what 25k price actually gets. what we see, we have to assume; is a relatively high spec version...
PS is there no HUD? I see zero mention of it anywhere: Shame; Id miss that from my ID3: Also... No ski hatch... (though I guess its not long enough so they'll argue to use the front seat folded down etc; but that's not too useful if you have passengers!
What about roof load?
VW understood (after so many years) that the ID3 central display sucked...
cute car ❤
I believe that there's going to be also a next gen ID.3 (MEB+) so it's kinda pointless to compare the current ID.3 to ID.2 that will be on sale in 2026 or so. Maybe!
So what are the batteries... solid state?
What is that? It's a promise from VW. We know how honest they are. I hope this is a rare exception and they deliver as and when promised.
Looks promising for next gen
But the question what specs will the 25k version get and how much will it cost fully loaded
Also will Tesla get its 25k car before 2026 !
35-40 to get a proper one (+inflation) imho
Tesla hasn't even presented 25k model yet, as a matter of fact they have not launched the car presented back in November 2019.
@@JPetr94 we just have to wait and see, Tesla is currently has better production process and faster deliveries,
also a 25K tesla isn't Cybertruk this car had many complications
2026 is still 3 years from now :D we really just have to wait and see
Updated Rabbit with a battery
The design is pretty dull, unlike the ID.3 which I really like and the facelift even better, but other than that it looks promising. It's taller than the Polo or Golf by aprox. 9cm which I believe is the height of the battery pack, so not necessary more headroom.
For sure the storage capacity is wrong at 490?….? From a small car ¿
At 6:12 and 6:47 the trunk looks surprisingly deep. ☮️
@@backwoodsbungalow9674 after watching the hole video I think is right🤯, the space in the bottom of the boot is enormous because all the components are in the front
Fwd ugh. Otherwise looks good to finally have a model which is actually affordable to many. Tbh all i need is 10kWh/100km and 40 to 50 kwh battery
I mean it all sounds great and I think these type of cars (small, affordable, efficient) are exactly what we need. But available in 2026?? That is too long, the Chinese automakers will already flood Europe with affordable and practical cars with high build quality. Seems like sluggish acting from VW. If they had started working on it on par with the id3 or right after it’s launch, the id2 would be launching later this year. Anyway I really like it, but it will probably arrive late
ID3 premium rear suspension and drivetrain is worth 15000 EUR more? 😜
Maybe not in 2026 🙂
I will change to it if it has 58kw batery like id 3
Woah! Make it RWD and lose the center console/buttress - and it looks *damn* nice! If it was RWD, then they should put in a frunk/froot.
Looks nice, i like the clean design, but 2026 is to late...
WHEN WILL THEY MAKE IT IN THE USA is all I want to know.
never: CEO said in interview its not going to US
My out take of this! Vw is working on a car for less than 20k euros
Hopefully, the production car will be exactly the same as the concept. The concept is pretty "normal".
No, it is a concept n factional cars that won't sold in the U.S n even if it is real it won't be 25 K ..u are looking at 45k at stealerships checkout
Looks just like a Golf
"2ALL" - cute.
The world very much needed this. Heh, VW will earn accolades from Nikki Gordon-Bloomfield - she always harps about EV manufacturers neglecting lower market segments. 😀
Pity it'll cost about €35000 in Ireland
Die Aufpreisliste muss massiv sein, wenn der Eimer bei 25k startet