3DResyns contacted my about the thick Nylon-like resin and it turns out that they sent a HV High Viscosity version tuned for high light power DLP printers. They’ll send me a new bottle with LV Low Viscosity version, for non-heated printers and for low light power LCD printers. For the next resin video I’ll make those gears out of this stuff! Happy 2022!
That's very encouraging news! It's great you had plans to solve the heated chamber issue, but even better that it was just a resin mix-up and no workaround is necessary. I have to say though, the comedy and relatability of unmet expectations in the storytelling was so entertaining 🥲
@@properprinting I'd like to see some speedprinting with this! I'm interested how good slipping performance is without spring tensioners and your solution. Also, a tensioner using a screw to pull back a pulley ( like cheap corexy tensioners) for the belt could be awesome! Keep this idea going, maybe I will make one of my own of these. If you could share the cad files too, that would be
I will post the stl-files on my website, but I have to do more testing together with some improvements first. I want to find out the durability of those belts (by printing something large and cool). This is the start of something awesome and suggestions are welcome!
The resin prints you did. Did the holes for the screws and nuts just come out in perfect dimensions or did you have to drill and clean them out? I'm guessing not, and that's amazing. I had a thought for the belts, do you think you could print them from like tpu or other flexible filament? Are there flexible materials for resin printers? I was thinking maybe draft them in a circle shape and use a large nozzle in vase mode to get the most consist print. Even with well calibrated linear advance/pressure advance, it'd be nearly impossible to get a belt printed that was exactly the same thickness all the way through. When dealing with retractions, speed changes, layer changes, etc there's always a bit of variation in wall thickness, for some things it may not matter if the thickness changes, but here it would. I really liked the extruder you made though, it has inspired me to try learning cad again, hopefully it goes better than my previous attempts😅 thanks for the vid!
@@josephbodhorn6511 Thanks for your awesome comment! I drilled the holes for the screws and the filament path because that was easier. The bearings and inserts fitted without modifications (after a couple of attempts to be fair). There are flexible resins and this Nylon-like resin is flexible below a certain thickness. The only problem being that this stretches too and therefore timing belts have fibers in them. Awesome that I inspired you to learn CAD again. This is so useful!
ddl exe 30 minuti fa i think you must patent this. you probably could sell it to prusa or other manufacturers because it's so innovating as an idea. patent it before someone stoles your idea and makes money on it
Besides the inspired and excellent design of the extruder, this has to be one of the most satisfying videos I've seen in a while. The close-up shots along with the rotating angles were almost visual ASMR, I love the attention to detail. Very professional from beginning to end. 👍
Thanks for this awesome comment! I was pretty late in the process of making the video when I got the idea of making it this way :D The curing chamber sparked the idea
Congrats! I've always wondered if a belt/rubber wheel system would work and not strip filament. In the early days I was always told they would slip but I used machines for years that use rubber wheels to move sheets of paper that were so tight you /had/ to disconnect them to clear any paper from the track. Looking forward to seeing more!
Awesome work and idea! I bet retraction would be improved using belts too. Less filament cracking and or breaking as well. I'm new to the channel and enjoy watching and learning. I love how you are not afraid to show and admit errors and or mistakes too. This is how TH-cam should be! Well done sir! Well done!!
Thanks a lot! Mistakes are an important part of the process, without them it would be to easy and nothing new will happen ;) We'll explore the capabilities of this extruder :D
I didn't want to watch your video all the way through.. not at all.. not.. at.. all.. But damn I couldn't resist.. this thing is magical! Incredible dedication and craftsmanship!
I did an experiment with something similar a year ago. The original idea I had was to make an extruder that looked like two tank tracks facing each other. I started out over thinking it a lot though, thought I needed a CNC machine to make the "gears" but I ended up using pressure just like you. However I moved on to other things before I could make tensioning work properly. Really cool video and always fun to see your projects! Can't wait for the next one!
Thank you so much! I've been skipping any resin vids but of course, can't skip yours, it is always fun and full of real info. So, my first look at what resin printing is like. thanks again.
I like when you tightened the one bolt for the bearing that you had to back it out just a smidge. You are now human and not a god of youtube. Thank you for this.
fantastic Idea of design, I love the Timing belt that pushes the filament on both sides. The filament will be preserved and not grinded by the gear teeth. I think it works nice!!!! bravo!
It's actually used on the Anisoprint 3D printers for the continuous carbon fiber extruder. It works well for the fiber which has a very small diameter (0.35mm). It's also fully 3D printed but with FDM parts.
Continuous fibre is an application that will bring fdm printed parts to the next level of strength and applications. Love to follow up on this to make it available for us tinkerers.
Cool looking back on this, started as an idea, became a thing, and then someone took it and made it even better. Papilio just entered public beta, and its a "refined" version of this, shrunk down, and adapted to use the same extruder mount as the sherpa/lgx lite. One of the unique changes is the drive gears for the belt of the Papilio are like a hobbed gear, so the belt is actually contacting more of the filament, and it stays in the path nicely. Not to mention it's a lot smaller in lighter. Either way, thanks for being one of the first people to actually try it, its fair to say it was inspired from yours. Keep up the good work, and keep trying things!
I was waching mihai's video about inconsistant extrusion. This was the solution i was thinking could fix the issue. nice to see you putting in the work and testing this keep up the good work
Very cool, very original project. I’m looking forward to the rest of the series. And speaking of original, I think this is the first extruder assembly ASMR I’ve seen/heard.
This was a fascinating watch and I am immediately mentally disassembling it and seeing how I would build it. You may have just pioneered an entire branch of extruder design and I cannot wait to see how this grows.
@@REDxFROG naturally, and yet this is the first attempt that myself and many many others have seen, contributing to its potential growth and development.
You are my hero. I've already used a few of your designs on my Enders to great effect and your approach to solving problems inspires me. Keep up the amazing work.
Thanks! This resin is so unreal, I have never seen anything like it. I just had a call from the founder of 3DResyns and he mentioned that they chose for this high viscosity because of its superior strength and to make it safer. This stuff doesn't penetrate as deep into the skin as low-viscosity resins do and it's less volatile. They do have adjusters to manipulate its viscosity which makes it easier to print, but compromises in strength. Very interesting subject and I just realized I'm on the start of something awesome to explore!
Very nice implementation! I've been using a selfmade belt extruder for 4 years. Its still going strong. Its way more bulky than yours though. Im surprised yours works without a tensioner. Mine has a friction sweet spot that needs to be dialed in (grip vs motor power needed). I was really worried at first that the friction would change over time, but it seems to be really stable.
This is so good to know, thanks! It did skip at that extreme purging step at the start of that test print (the stock extruder did too) and I still have to add tensioners. Well, I added them but they tensioned it too much. It worked with the FDM printed version out of ABS, but because the PMMA-like resin is so much stiffer, it didn't bend as much causing too much tension. I'm glad yours seems stable, this gives hope :D
This looks amazing. It also looks like a solution to a problem I have with the extruder teeth damaging the filament from rapid retraction/extrude cycles. Also looks like a fix for Anycubic's extruder being so fussy to thread with new filament. I can almost never get it past the tube that catches it in the back without getting it jammed in the gears.
We hebben even moeten wachten maar het resultaat mag er zijn! Wat een geweldige video! Vooral het stuk waar je alles aan het opbouwen bent is heerlijk om naar te kijken.
I’ve been looking for an excellent extruder for my delta printer. I absolute love this. I believe I’ll print this and use this extruder!!! Great job dude!
Wow! Weldone bro. I used a roadbike inner tube glued into a printed hub and a lever pressed against the filament and the rubber roller a quarter round. It works only my filament is fed horizontally from the side.😂 . Small slim & lightweight simple. Grip is really good and lightweight. There’s is no bite marks on the filament.😂 Thanks for sharing yours ❤
I love this idea! You kind of just gave me an alternate path to think about, other than just playing with different gear ratios. Your attention to detail is wonderful, with the nut-cap and all. I think an interesting question would be if you could introduce controlled deflections of the belt-filament interface region, either by adding a middle idler to curve the interface region in shallow arc, or by creating a compound curve by interleaving the two sets of idler wheels across the interface region, such as by offsetting the two sets of idler wheels vertically, and across the interface plane a little. Whether or not you think that has more potential than the "pusher" flanges you added, I am excited to play with this!
Amazing work. After seeing recent experiments by Vector3D and MihaiDesigns about the artifacts introduced by even the smallest amount of inconsistency in dual drive extruders I'm convinced that your design needs as much attention as it can get. Kudos, sir.
That's so awesome! It turns out that there were more people with this idea and didn't actually make it. I didn't expect that and it's pretty funny actually. Thank you!
I really think this is genius and has really inspired me. The current metal gear extruders, while they work have such a small contact surface area to the filament, which I think really limits their capability. After seeing your design, this has caused me to search further into using a belt over gear fed systems. From your inspiration I’m thinking about a Bowden design(Could also be a direct drive), that will use a single belt pressed against a roller. The roller will have a small grove to hold the filament in place. The roller will be hashed (Knurled) outside the grove to increase the friction between the belt and the roller to reduce slipping. The belt will also contact over 50% of the roller to reduce filament slippage. I’m even thinking of following the idea of a sailboat windlass which would allow the filament to be wrapped more than once for even better slip resistance. Kind of amazing, how things can fall together while just leaving a comment.
This is excellent. You need to have a simple spreader on the belts the same as the belt driven tractors that are made now to provide tension. This would be ideal for production on the belt extruder unit. The color looks fine. A copper tone is a nice structure. You are doing the right thing with this innovation. Keep working on variations and this will become a simple and highly functional filament handling mechanism.
Man every single time I watch your videos I feel like I am watching a scientists that is also an artist work which for some reason seems like a rare concept for me 🤣
Sick AF! Genius level thinking. I had a similar idea. Unfortunately I’m not an engineer. I do have engineer colleagues that I can work with to try to design it. Good luck with that. Love it!
Sorry about the typos! 3D printing ideas. Have a couple of thoughts… Can use a leaf spring with rollers that pushes the belt against the other belt, (similar to a tank.) Then can use an adjustment screw to apply more pressure to the leaf spring, and adjust the pressure. With the "high flow nozzle" On-text-CHT?🤔 maybe… he says it in the video... High flow nozzle video: th-cam.com/video/RWDErj-pE1c/w-d-xo.html They drill 3 or 4 flutes down in the printing nozzle, increasing surface area and heat transfer rate. Meaning faster printing. Can vertically mount your belt printer, for production printing, (they just use a hook rail for quick and fast access, if need to do maintenance, setups etc. And pace a catch bin underneath. Love the dance. Ever heard of "Band Maid" Japanese rock group, I listen to them all the time, and do a little wiggle/dance. Also "Baby Metal" has some pretty good songs like "Pa Pa Ya". Enjoy Could use metal molding resin, and then cast them in metal for the final print when you're happy with the design. Then you can cast your gears in metal (would have to adjust your designs for metal shrinkage, each type of metals/ alloys have different shrinkage values). Love the video. Good luck with your designs!
i actually thought of making something like this about a year ago. I never got to it, because i figured that the belts could worn out very quickly. But it would be interesting to test how much force it can extert vs a regular extruder and if it improves print quality somehow thanks to the larger area of contact
I'm very curious what it does in the long run and that's exactly what we'll find out :D If it does wear out quickly it might be interesting to see this as a consumable if it has its advantages. It must be easy to replace though in that case.
Have you tested the extruder with Flexible filament such as Ninjaflex or other really soft TPU filaments? Also would you need custom mounting brackets for different printers? Such as Ender 3 vs CR30 as pictured in video.
Not yet, but I definitely will! This extruder already can be mounted on the standard bracket of the Ender 3. I only have to fix the issue where the motor can't be disassembled without taking this whole thing apart. I'm going to make an adapter for a bowden coupler so it can be used as a regular bowden extruder.
Great video and good idea. This videos take long to make but I really like them and are worth waiting, besides that I learn a few things too while I am having fun watching them.
Interesting. I was thinking up nearly the same idea, but using linear bearings to guide and press the belts against the filament. I’m not sure if this is a problem in your design, but ideally there would be some sort of groove along the belt which will be the same width as the filament. This would eliminate any accidental axial misalignment or flexion of the filament during extrusion which would result in small deviations of more or less plastic than desired.
Awesome. I've seen Fiber printers also using belts to move the thin fiber filament. If you start building an actual fiber printer that would officially blow my mind.
@@properprinting Nice! Pro tip, get some Markforged Nozzles for the fiber filament. They're expensive, but an optimized shape is very important for hassle free printing.
3DResyns contacted my about the thick Nylon-like resin and it turns out that they sent a HV High Viscosity version tuned for high light power DLP printers. They’ll send me a new bottle with LV Low Viscosity version, for non-heated printers and for low light power LCD printers. For the next resin video I’ll make those gears out of this stuff! Happy 2022!
That's very encouraging news! It's great you had plans to solve the heated chamber issue, but even better that it was just a resin mix-up and no workaround is necessary.
I have to say though, the comedy and relatability of unmet expectations in the storytelling was so entertaining 🥲
Any idear of when we will be able to download the stl files for this?
Love the feeder concept!
Thanks Stefan! Now the real testing begins :D
@@properprinting I'd like to see some speedprinting with this! I'm interested how good slipping performance is without spring tensioners and your solution. Also, a tensioner using a screw to pull back a pulley ( like cheap corexy tensioners) for the belt could be awesome! Keep this idea going, maybe I will make one of my own of these. If you could share the cad files too, that would be
When are you guys doing a video or project together?
@@joelpeterson3894 I want to see Stefan testing this extruder setup for performance
Hi Stefan, would be interesting having those quite expensive resin going through your tests ;-)
What on earth did I just watch? It was cinematography, engineering, 3D printing, and ASMR. Bravo! Beautiful job!
That build was cathartic, to say the least. Filmography level 100.
Thank you! Resin prints just deserve a little extra work to be shown nicely :)
I will post the stl-files on my website, but I have to do more testing together with some improvements first. I want to find out the durability of those belts (by printing something large and cool). This is the start of something awesome and suggestions are welcome!
als je onderdelen van Aluminium wilt hebben, wil ik je daar wel mee helpen. Ik woon(redelijk) in de buurt.
The resin prints you did. Did the holes for the screws and nuts just come out in perfect dimensions or did you have to drill and clean them out? I'm guessing not, and that's amazing.
I had a thought for the belts, do you think you could print them from like tpu or other flexible filament? Are there flexible materials for resin printers?
I was thinking maybe draft them in a circle shape and use a large nozzle in vase mode to get the most consist print. Even with well calibrated linear advance/pressure advance, it'd be nearly impossible to get a belt printed that was exactly the same thickness all the way through.
When dealing with retractions, speed changes, layer changes, etc there's always a bit of variation in wall thickness, for some things it may not matter if the thickness changes, but here it would.
I really liked the extruder you made though, it has inspired me to try learning cad again, hopefully it goes better than my previous attempts😅 thanks for the vid!
@@Eddy_AREA99 OK dat is tof! Ik zal het onthouden, bedankt :D
@@josephbodhorn6511 Thanks for your awesome comment! I drilled the holes for the screws and the filament path because that was easier. The bearings and inserts fitted without modifications (after a couple of attempts to be fair). There are flexible resins and this Nylon-like resin is flexible below a certain thickness. The only problem being that this stretches too and therefore timing belts have fibers in them. Awesome that I inspired you to learn CAD again. This is so useful!
ddl exe
30 minuti fa
i think you must patent this. you probably could sell it to prusa or other manufacturers because it's so innovating as an idea.
patent it before someone stoles your idea and makes money on it
Besides the inspired and excellent design of the extruder, this has to be one of the most satisfying videos I've seen in a while. The close-up shots along with the rotating angles were almost visual ASMR, I love the attention to detail.
Very professional from beginning to end. 👍
Thanks for this awesome comment! I was pretty late in the process of making the video when I got the idea of making it this way :D The curing chamber sparked the idea
@@properprinting Credit where credit is due, dude. Keep up the fantastic work, your contributions to the community are very much appreciated.
You are the perfect man to design a CoreXY direct drive extruder that is driven by the xy belts. Double belts
Nothing short of genius, there is a lot of mileage in your new design, I can see this really take off.
¡Gracias!
Thanks!
Thank you too!
That thing is a work of art. I like how it is modular and self-aligning--reminds me of your quick tool changer design.
Thanks! The idea is to make a changeable adapter mount for it ;)
Congrats! I've always wondered if a belt/rubber wheel system would work and not strip filament. In the early days I was always told they would slip but I used machines for years that use rubber wheels to move sheets of paper that were so tight you /had/ to disconnect them to clear any paper from the track. Looking forward to seeing more!
Awesome work and idea! I bet retraction would be improved using belts too. Less filament cracking and or breaking as well. I'm new to the channel and enjoy watching and learning. I love how you are not afraid to show and admit errors and or mistakes too. This is how TH-cam should be! Well done sir! Well done!!
Thanks a lot! Mistakes are an important part of the process, without them it would be to easy and nothing new will happen ;) We'll explore the capabilities of this extruder :D
Amazing! Love the design, and how you show how many iterations and frustrations one goes through while attempting to innovate!
Been printing for almost 5 years. How did I not know about this channel?! This video is epic and the belt extruder is very interesting. New fan
Brilliant idea and execution. You have demonstrated the benefits of 3D printing technology and improved 3D printing with a stroke genius!!!
I didn't want to watch your video all the way through..
not at all..
not.. at.. all..
But damn I couldn't resist.. this thing is magical!
Incredible dedication and craftsmanship!
So glad to see someone make this thing... I've only talked about this very idea for a couple years...
I did an experiment with something similar a year ago. The original idea I had was to make an extruder that looked like two tank tracks facing each other. I started out over thinking it a lot though, thought I needed a CNC machine to make the "gears" but I ended up using pressure just like you. However I moved on to other things before I could make tensioning work properly. Really cool video and always fun to see your projects! Can't wait for the next one!
Thank you so much! I've been skipping any resin vids but of course, can't skip yours, it is always fun and full of real info. So, my first look at what resin printing is like. thanks again.
Thanks for not skipping! I like to explore it's capabilities and in the end, this is for an FDM printer ;)
This is freaking brilliant and the production quality and sense of humor is great!
I am actually shocked of the quality of your videos. Many big youtubers don't even come close to yours! Love it!
Thank you! I like to put some extra effort into this and I'm so happy that this is noticed and mentioned!
My first time seeing this channel and I LOVE EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS! The filming. The humor, the engineering
I like when you tightened the one bolt for the bearing that you had to back it out just a smidge. You are now human and not a god of youtube. Thank you for this.
People like you keep the wheel on turning. Thank you!
fantastic Idea of design, I love the Timing belt that pushes the filament on both sides. The filament will be preserved and not grinded by the gear teeth. I think it works nice!!!! bravo!
It's actually used on the Anisoprint 3D printers for the continuous carbon fiber extruder. It works well for the fiber which has a very small diameter (0.35mm). It's also fully 3D printed but with FDM parts.
Continuous fibre is an application that will bring fdm printed parts to the next level of strength and applications.
Love to follow up on this to make it available for us tinkerers.
I didn't know that, awesome! I really want to make this technique available for cheap on a standard printer. This enables so much possibilities!
@@properprinting I'm in vacation right now. I will send you a few pics once I get back.
@@ShikaGinto awesome! Have a nice vacation!
Congrats on the Hackaday article, man! Well deserved! Well if I'm being honest, most your videos deserve one!!
Thank you! It's so awesome to end up there and they already made some articles of my work. I'm very grateful for that :D
Cool looking back on this, started as an idea, became a thing, and then someone took it and made it even better. Papilio just entered public beta, and its a "refined" version of this, shrunk down, and adapted to use the same extruder mount as the sherpa/lgx lite. One of the unique changes is the drive gears for the belt of the Papilio are like a hobbed gear, so the belt is actually contacting more of the filament, and it stays in the path nicely. Not to mention it's a lot smaller in lighter. Either way, thanks for being one of the first people to actually try it, its fair to say it was inspired from yours. Keep up the good work, and keep trying things!
I was waching mihai's video about inconsistant extrusion. This was the solution i was thinking could fix the issue. nice to see you putting in the work and testing this
keep up the good work
Very cool, very original project. I’m looking forward to the rest of the series. And speaking of original, I think this is the first extruder assembly ASMR I’ve seen/heard.
Thanks Joe! It was my first ASMR attempt I'm glad it's perceived as such!
This was a fascinating watch and I am immediately mentally disassembling it and seeing how I would build it. You may have just pioneered an entire branch of extruder design and I cannot wait to see how this grows.
There are already attempts on this
@@REDxFROG naturally, and yet this is the first attempt that myself and many many others have seen, contributing to its potential growth and development.
Sick video dude, production quality is on point, the project was awesome to watch and your humor is great :) keep it up man!
It’s nothing short of beautiful. Fantastic video.
You've just started something huge in the scene man. Great job.
You are my hero. I've already used a few of your designs on my Enders to great effect and your approach to solving problems inspires me. Keep up the amazing work.
Thank you, that's so awesome!
REAL scientists record their fails too
Well DONE
It's like watching a Swiss timepiece being created. Just beautiful
My last conversation with Sanjay was about this exactly! I will miss those conversations.
You're kidding. That's very, very awesome
This is an absolutely great project, respect for your efforts and inventiveness. Keep it up to be a fan.
This is awesome. lol when that resin was being poured I was tripping out on how thick it was. That stuff is aggressive 😂
Thanks! This resin is so unreal, I have never seen anything like it. I just had a call from the founder of 3DResyns and he mentioned that they chose for this high viscosity because of its superior strength and to make it safer. This stuff doesn't penetrate as deep into the skin as low-viscosity resins do and it's less volatile. They do have adjusters to manipulate its viscosity which makes it easier to print, but compromises in strength. Very interesting subject and I just realized I'm on the start of something awesome to explore!
Very nice implementation!
I've been using a selfmade belt extruder for 4 years. Its still going strong. Its way more bulky than yours though.
Im surprised yours works without a tensioner. Mine has a friction sweet spot that needs to be dialed in (grip vs motor power needed). I was really worried at first that the friction would change over time, but it seems to be really stable.
This is so good to know, thanks! It did skip at that extreme purging step at the start of that test print (the stock extruder did too) and I still have to add tensioners. Well, I added them but they tensioned it too much. It worked with the FDM printed version out of ABS, but because the PMMA-like resin is so much stiffer, it didn't bend as much causing too much tension. I'm glad yours seems stable, this gives hope :D
Great idea and great bump music, man!
Thanks for sharing.
Wow, the fitup of all the parts was so satisfying. Designed really well!
This is awesome. I sketched a design like this last year and think about it from time to time. Glad to see a working design 👍
Well Done - the precision of your work is amazing, coming from an electronics engineer!
Thanks! I started as a precision mechanic ;)
Amazing. Such great job! Those promo for extruder. It must be on ART gallery, looking like it can achieve oscar!
Man, keep going like that!
This looks amazing.
It also looks like a solution to a problem I have with the extruder teeth damaging the filament from rapid retraction/extrude cycles.
Also looks like a fix for Anycubic's extruder being so fussy to thread with new filament. I can almost never get it past the tube that catches it in the back without getting it jammed in the gears.
We hebben even moeten wachten maar het resultaat mag er zijn! Wat een geweldige video! Vooral het stuk waar je alles aan het opbouwen bent is heerlijk om naar te kijken.
Bedankt Wim!
I’ve been looking for an excellent extruder for my delta printer.
I absolute love this.
I believe I’ll print this and use this extruder!!!
Great job dude!
Thanks, that'd be awesome! I'll post an update once the first version can be downloaded :D
Thanks, that'd be awesome! I'll post an update once the first version can be downloaded :D
it is great, we are reaching a point where we'll be able to print our own 3D printer using a 3D printer.
great job sir 😊👍
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Wow! Weldone bro. I used a roadbike inner tube glued into a printed hub and a lever pressed against the filament and the rubber roller a quarter round. It works only my filament is fed horizontally from the side.😂 . Small slim & lightweight simple. Grip is really good and lightweight. There’s is no bite marks on the filament.😂 Thanks for sharing yours ❤
Elke keer als ik even genoeg heb van printen dan zie ik een video van je en ben ik weer helemaal geïnspireerd.
Top video's go zo door man!
Gaaf! Bedankt!
Remarkable Jon. You never cease to amaze me with your ideas and commitment to 3d printer engineering. Have a great Christmas and a Happy New Year👍🏻
Thanks Andy! A Merry Christmas and a happy new year to you too!
Made my day when I saw you posted a new video👌🏼
I love this idea! You kind of just gave me an alternate path to think about, other than just playing with different gear ratios. Your attention to detail is wonderful, with the nut-cap and all.
I think an interesting question would be if you could introduce controlled deflections of the belt-filament interface region, either by adding a middle idler to curve the interface region in shallow arc, or by creating a compound curve by interleaving the two sets of idler wheels across the interface region, such as by offsetting the two sets of idler wheels vertically, and across the interface plane a little.
Whether or not you think that has more potential than the "pusher" flanges you added, I am excited to play with this!
no way. I had the same idea but not time to make it. Brilliant that you've made it happen!
So cool that more people say this exactly! I recon this must be a good idea then :D
Thank you so much for sharing your journey. Amazing work!
I've been wondering why there hasn't been any similar extruders around, the idea seems so ingenious :D
It seems like an obvious solution. Interesting thing is that quite a lot of people mentioned having this idea
Nice take on a belt driven extruder this is pretty interesting and avoids the bending of the filament like in other concepts
Perseverance is key ;) Nice video and extruder concept ! :D
Amazing work. After seeing recent experiments by Vector3D and MihaiDesigns about the artifacts introduced by even the smallest amount of inconsistency in dual drive extruders I'm convinced that your design needs as much attention as it can get. Kudos, sir.
Love the effort not only in the design of the project but the editing of the video, great job!
Thank you very much!
Love the music man, and the editing style is supper cool.
Omggggf and the shots and angles yoy took were perfect felt like I was watching a release trailer for a new product for a min
So rad. I love the work you do man!
Dude, you are mad genius. Great video. Keep the experiments coming!
I had similar idea, but i was too lazy to even start, you are doing amazing work, thanks!
That's so awesome! It turns out that there were more people with this idea and didn't actually make it. I didn't expect that and it's pretty funny actually. Thank you!
Congratulations to the successful design. I'm looking forward where this project goes.
Thanks! I would love to print and run this! I hate that every extruder uses sharp gears and deforms the filament. Thanks for all the hard work!!!!
Love this. I too dreamt of an extruded like this. My idea was to glue sand paper to the outside of the belts to add extra grip.
Bloody brilliant Jon🤩
Awesome idea Jon. Cannot wait to see it come to fruition, already pretty badass though!
it's very similar that i've been thinking / working on. Great video, I think this design has a great potencial! :)
I really think this is genius and has really inspired me. The current metal gear extruders, while they work have such a small contact surface area to the filament, which I think really limits their capability. After seeing your design, this has caused me to search further into using a belt over gear fed systems. From your inspiration I’m thinking about a Bowden design(Could also be a direct drive), that will use a single belt pressed against a roller. The roller will have a small grove to hold the filament in place. The roller will be hashed (Knurled) outside the grove to increase the friction between the belt and the roller to reduce slipping. The belt will also contact over 50% of the roller to reduce filament slippage. I’m even thinking of following the idea of a sailboat windlass which would allow the filament to be wrapped more than once for even better slip resistance. Kind of amazing, how things can fall together while just leaving a comment.
This is excellent. You need to have a simple spreader on the belts the same as the belt driven tractors that are made now to provide tension.
This would be ideal for production on the belt extruder unit. The color looks fine. A copper tone is a nice structure.
You are doing the right thing with this innovation. Keep working on variations and this will become a simple and highly functional filament handling mechanism.
Man every single time I watch your videos I feel like I am watching a scientists that is also an artist work which for some reason seems like a rare concept for me 🤣
I really enjoyed watching the whole video, nice job dude
Glad you did, thanks!
Sick AF! Genius level thinking. I had a similar idea. Unfortunately I’m not an engineer. I do have engineer colleagues that I can work with to try to design it. Good luck with that. Love it!
Subscribed, because of the awesome closeups and video editing alone! Really looking forward to what your plans are with this extruder!
Thanks for your sub! Right in time for something awesome :D
Sorry about the typos!
3D printing ideas.
Have a couple of thoughts…
Can use a leaf spring with rollers that pushes the belt against the other belt, (similar to a tank.)
Then can use an adjustment screw to apply more pressure to the leaf spring, and adjust the pressure.
With the "high flow nozzle"
On-text-CHT?🤔 maybe… he says it in the video...
High flow nozzle video:
th-cam.com/video/RWDErj-pE1c/w-d-xo.html
They drill 3 or 4 flutes down in the printing nozzle, increasing surface area and heat transfer rate. Meaning faster printing.
Can vertically mount your belt printer, for production printing, (they just use a hook rail for quick and fast access, if need to do maintenance, setups etc. And pace a catch bin underneath.
Love the dance. Ever heard of "Band Maid" Japanese rock group, I listen to them all the time, and do a little wiggle/dance.
Also "Baby Metal" has some pretty good songs like "Pa Pa Ya".
Enjoy
Could use metal molding resin, and then cast them in metal for the final print when you're happy with the design. Then you can cast your gears in metal (would have to adjust your designs for metal shrinkage, each type of metals/ alloys have different shrinkage values).
Love the video.
Good luck with your designs!
Updated and fixed typos 😳
Absolutely amazing, been meaning to become a Patreon supporter for a while and this reminded me to get it sorted.
Thanks a lot Daniel for becoming a Patreon supporter! I hope you like the whole idea :D
I love your video production style!
Thanks, I really appreciate that :D
i actually thought of making something like this about a year ago. I never got to it, because i figured that the belts could worn out very quickly. But it would be interesting to test how much force it can extert vs a regular extruder and if it improves print quality somehow thanks to the larger area of contact
This is exactly what happens most of the time, there's those that have thought about it and there's those that just try it. :) Fascinating
I'm very curious what it does in the long run and that's exactly what we'll find out :D If it does wear out quickly it might be interesting to see this as a consumable if it has its advantages. It must be easy to replace though in that case.
@@properprinting You could always use a longer belt, loop it around somewhere or something. The more belt area the slower the degradation probably is.
Awesome. Absolutely awesome! Love the whole process and all the struggles that come along the way!
Thank you! And struggles there were haha xD I haven't shown most of it, such a learning experience this was!
Awesome work on the assembly segment, looks great!
Thank you! I went with a different approach this time and I'm happy how it turned out :D
Brilliant. If you are ever able to market these as ready-to-assemble kits for various machines I'll buy one!
Have you tested the extruder with Flexible filament such as Ninjaflex or other really soft TPU filaments? Also would you need custom mounting brackets for different printers? Such as Ender 3 vs CR30 as pictured in video.
Not yet, but I definitely will! This extruder already can be mounted on the standard bracket of the Ender 3. I only have to fix the issue where the motor can't be disassembled without taking this whole thing apart. I'm going to make an adapter for a bowden coupler so it can be used as a regular bowden extruder.
Omg this was amazing, top tier video!
Nice design. I have been thinking about a similar tank drive extruder design for some time. Great minds think alike
Wooow how cool is that man! Love it!
You always came out incredible idea and made your imagination into a well-made products. 👍🏻
Great video and good idea. This videos take long to make but I really like them and are worth waiting, besides that I learn a few things too while I am having fun watching them.
Thanks for this comment! You just pointed out what I try to achieve with my videos :D
I love your enthusiasm and the way you always think outside the box. I can't wait to see what improvements you do to this
This video is insanely well done!! 😊
You can more or less guarantee this will be on Ali Expresss after the New Year LOL
Haha xD Somehow they can sell this for under 20 bucks too😅
Interesting. I was thinking up nearly the same idea, but using linear bearings to guide and press the belts against the filament.
I’m not sure if this is a problem in your design, but ideally there would be some sort of groove along the belt which will be the same width as the filament. This would eliminate any accidental axial misalignment or flexion of the filament during extrusion which would result in small deviations of more or less plastic than desired.
I wonder if this would eliminate the "wood grain" effect seen on direct extruder systems. 🤔
That’s an awesome idea. 👍. I am gonna make one soon. Thanks for sharing 💕
Awesome. I've seen Fiber printers also using belts to move the thin fiber filament. If you start building an actual fiber printer that would officially blow my mind.
Thanks on my way to 🤯 ;)
@@properprinting
Nice!
Pro tip, get some Markforged Nozzles for the fiber filament. They're expensive, but an optimized shape is very important for hassle free printing.
@@MrKnoppersesser thanks for the tip! They won't work because my idea is a lot different than their design ;)
@@properprinting okay, I will have to wait and see I guess. O.o
will be interesting to see how well the belts hold up