This Extruder is a TPU Beast!
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In this video I show how I print the world's most flexible TPU from Diabase with a shore hardness of 60A. This is cooked spaghetti soft. I printed this with the experimental extruder I designed which uses timing belts to push the filament. I used PEEK-like resin with a metallic green dye from 3DResyns because it looks cool and we need the chemical resistance in a future video. Everything was printed on the Anycubic Photon M3 Max which is a huge printer which works very good.
I used the WhamBam Mutant to mount it so I can turn this printer into the experimental platform. I printed the adapter out of polycarbonate from 3D4Makers on the QidiTech I-fast.
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:48 The new version
1:50 Mounting sequence
3:03 Flexible filament check
4:17 Printing the last resin part
4:52 Squarespace
5:56 Preparing the printer
7:01 Adding the WhamBam Mutant
8:19 Adding the extruder
12:02 First try with flexible filament
12:24 Redesign
14:06 Final attempt
16:07 Printing the world's most flexible filament
17:33 Conclusion - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
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Hi everyone! Finally, the files of the Proper Extruder are released! I needed to do some improvements first and now I'm happy enough to share the first version. You can download them for free from my website properprinting.pro/product/proper-extruder/
Fiberlogy fiberflex 30d is the lowest shore TPU on market! you lied! The Bondtech LGX extruder can print this fine, can yours?
@@didiz01 60A is lower than 30D.
@@didiz01 30D is similar to 80A so I shouldn't have any problems printing that ;) www.teknorapex.com/thermoplastic-elastomers-and-measuring-shore-hardness-chart
Do you think your struder design will work on a cr10v2 if I print it on the same cr10v2??? (sorry I'm from the 3rd world jajajajaja having an cr10 here In Colombia is an very luxury thing) tanks man you are awesome... (I follow you since the beginning trough different accounts... I had to change it every time I change my phone)....
Jajajajaja I wrote the comment before I finished the video jajajajaja greetings my friend... 😂😂😂😂
The fact that despite all of the work you've put into this thing you're keeping it free is exactly why the 3d printing community is so great. We're all out here trying to make things better, not only for ourselves but also each other. Bless ya and keep at it.
I believe it's $3.00 very reasonable.
@@mrbmp09 It's pay what you want, so you /can/ pay nothing. $3 is merely the recommendation.
I plan to do the same with my designs as they start rolling out. I know I need money, but I think everyone should benefit from the knowledge of others.
@@peenerpan113 I mean, if you're giving something away for free (or pay what you want) there's an implicit understanding that you won't necessarily be making any money off of it, or are at least not expecting to -- Ultimately what you're positing is only really an issue if you had intended to monetize it from the get go.
All other cool things aside, I think the most amazing part is that you managed something (and by that I mean "printing ninjaflex") that up until just a few years ago many companies - with, like, actual R&D budgets - tried and failed at. That's, I think, the most beautiful thing about the 3D printing "industry": I don't know of any comparable field where the line between "enthusiastic hobbyist" and "professional engineer" lie so close together.
Definitely on my short list of things to print if and when I have access to a resin printer (should really check if there's a hackerspace near me, damn my procrastinating xD)
It's so cool that with 3D printing the hobbyist is able to create (semi-) professional parts! The biggest part of the work when developing a product is everything but the prototyping phase where I'm in right now. Optimizing the design to make manufacturing cheaper, do functional testing and real life testing, complying to standards, (get back to the drawing board and do this cycle again at each fail) sourcing cheaper parts (test again), marketing, packaging and be better/faster than your competitor. You quickly need a whole team to get things to the market ;) This of course depends on the product, especially consumer electronics requires a lot.
Computing and software development, theirs very little difference between professional and hobbyist.
Take a bow, Jon.
Not only for developing an extruder that can handle some of the most difficult materials, but also for giving a real world demonstration of the benefits of rapid prototyping and iterative design.
As we say in America, knocked it out of the park.
Wow! Amazing work!
I was inspired by your last video to develop a belt extruder of my own for this exact reason. I print in Recreus Filaflex 60A filament for work all the time and we constantly get buckling issues as you describe. It's so interesting to watch you go through the same problems as I have been these past 2 months. Your buckling solution is really elegant, I didn't think of it at all!
I managed it in a different way, by putting the two drive belts in a slight V shape (about 2mm apart at the top pulley and 1.5mm apart at the bottom). This means there is more pull from the bottom and buckling doesn't happen (unless retraction is higher than 3mm). With this setup I've managed to get my home CR-10 printing at 45mm/s in 60A.
Also when my stepper started skipping (like crazy!) I increased the gear ratio - it looks a little silly now but it works a treat!
Keep going man! You inspire makers everywhere.
That's awesome! Interesting approach to put it in a V-shape. Awesome that you're printing the same material on the same printer with a similar method!
Oh wow, this is awesome. I always look forward to your videos and seeing what you've done. Thanks for making this open to the community as well! Goie werk.
If I can give you some advice, I would mount the spool on a pair of bearing without a cover nor grease (naked bearings) it will really reduce the force required to unwind the spool. This only is for flexible materials ofc
The music selection on this channel is amazing. I love watching your videos, the editing AND engineering are always so well done. Well done sir
Really love seeing the design process and also the hardships you had to get through. Your extruder looks and performs like a monster =) Thank you very much for the video!
Congratulations!! It was really nice to see the iterative process, as you encountered problems and engineered solutions for each in turn. Great work, great vid!!
This have been my favorite tpu extruder ever since this video, i have never printed with an extruder being this good at TPU.
You're consistently one of my favorite 3D printing/maker channels on this whole platform! It's cool to see these experiments that push the boundaries of the hobby, and thank you extra for making the designs public which is incredible for the community
I'd love to see how that belt drive holds up over time, what fails first. Very cool project.
Me too! Fun fact, APS tech solutions aps-techsolutions.com/en also uses the same type of belts and I had a great chat with them. They print a lot of Nylon with carbon fiber without any problems. This gives hope!
@@properprinting just setup a silent driver and a gcode loop of 500mm forward and 500 back on a 700mm length of filament
Yeah I feel like the belt teeth will wear out
@@MkrezyL28E these belts last for ages. I've used them on my CNC lathe for over a decade and still haven't changed them out.
@@properprinting My go to belt when grip is important are OptiBelt. We use Optibelt ZR series on toroid winding machines where the back part of the belt is used for friction tensioning the wire, and we tried a ton of belts. Optibelt's rubber compound seems to provide the best grip, uniform wear, ideal hardness, not to rigid and not too soft.
The grip might be not important for flexible filaments, because the filament itself might grip on a harder belt, but might be important when one wants to print harder, possibly slippery filaments as well with the same setup.
Belt backs can also be coated. We found a company that offers twenty or so coating materials with different hardness, grip, abrasion resistance and so on, especially for the purposes when you want to feed material with the belt, like conveyors and such.
The only reason why we don't use them on the toroid machines is cost, mainly. The Optibelt ZR was "good enough" for us so far, and the coated one would't fit the machine easily anyway. Still good to know that it is an existing thing when needed.
That 15:38 Eureka moment is pure engineering gold 😄
You have my like, my good Sir! 👌
Long term I'd say a grooved bearing on the antideflection area. It will give the belt only one place to go. For grove radius use filament radius in addition to belt thickness.
Holy cow. Thank you so much for providing the design. I needed this.
I’ve only just watched this and congratulations.
I’ve watched a few of your other videos before and I have to say, I love your ingenuity.
Keep it up.
Great video! The production quality is incredible, and it is nice that you show off your failures, so even we can learn from them. Great job on the extruder!
Nice, thanks for the video. Till now, I hadn't thought of the feed hassles with flex. It's a bit of an eye opener.
Great video and even better accomplishment! I’m new to the 3D game and glad to have stumbled on this video. Excited to see all your past and future content. Congrats.
Oh! I want a pair of those high-speed, blue, gloves. Being able to make adjustments at that speed would be y ideal.
Nice job! I've wanted to do this ever since I got a MK2 years ago. I would never have gotten around to it so I'm glad to see it being invented.
Gefeliciteerd man. Geweldig om te zien hoe je vooruit gaat. Ga zo door!
pretty cool design, thanks for sharing.
This just made me smile. So very cool engineering you did there. Congratulations
I congratulate you on achieving such a feat! Very smart design with those belt guides !
Great job, belts are a perfect idea. It's exactly what they use on a filament production line.
Great work! This is an amazing extruder. I really think this has a lot of potential.
Congrats man this amazing work. Thanks for sharing this with us
Congrats. This is a triumph. I'm making a note here, huge success.
Seems like so much time went in this design. Props
Cool to see your current work
awesome extruder. So unbelievable result. So titanous work
Thank you for the great video. Great project, have fun
Absolutely amazing work, congratulations.
Genius!! Congratulations!
i feel so happy with you my friend! great success!
Oh man, you're the best! I had some issues with standard gear extruders and yesterday I invented this belt extruder thing. I went to search online just to see that it has already been built by someone else :)
This thing is BEAUTIFUL!!
That was very impressive work. Thank you for taking the time to create a video that shared the entire design process with us. That's both inspirational and educational, particularly for young want-to-be engineers.
That is incredible. I always love your videos (especially when you wire the extruder backwards) I use many of your modifications on my Ender 3, and love them all. This might be one I have to try at some point.
Oh wow John, that looks amazing! very well done!
So cool. Great job and thank you for sharing with us.
Greetings, Surely you are the most over the top 3D R & D engineer in the world. Well I've only been viewing all things 3D for 3 years so there may be some others. Thank you for a great presentation and commentary. You're a true joy to watch with chips and a cold beer.
All the Best in your efforts, Cheers
Doug
So satisfying watching these parts fit perfectly together.
i've been watching your channel for 2 years and gotta say everytime is see that notification i'm excited to my core and you always deliver, keep up the good work
wow! very inspiring work. I just started printing and have a small resin printer. Now I want to start building another one and your extruder.
Nice job. These kind of experiments are helping the make community to think more outside the box.
DUDE THIS IS AMAZING! Nice work Jon! Love the iteration process on this thing. Excited to print one out and try ourselves!
Thank you Grant! It'd be cool so see it on one of your printers!
@@properprinting With a Mutant too! Just so we can have some fun!
You fully have my attention. I need a new extruded set up for my Ender 5 Pro, and this looks like it could fix all my extruded issues. 🙏🙏
Seriously you rock!
Awesome! Congratulations on an great design!
aesthetically and functionally amazing
Amazing Job, keep making projects and inspiring people like myself.
This was such an awesome journey. Great work!
Seriously incredible
epic designing and another cool project
Amazing job.congratulations
Yessss!!! This is so fantastic!!
We always want to see more, you always excel with great ideas and content.
Wow, congratulations that’s amazing.
Not only is the design fantastic but I love the way you put the video together. I loved everything about this design/ idea and the way you presented it. Amazing work. This video got you another subscriber. I will continue to watch your videos going forward.
Great work! Respect!
I bought one of my Felix 3D printers second-hand from a research team that had been experimenting with printing flexible filaments with limited success. Really interesting to see your approach and the results were better than I would have thought.
Like the way this guy approaches problems. Keep at it. brilliant.
Congratulations man!! This is awesome 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Awesome work man. I designed my own extrusion idler for my Ender 3 V2 and flexibles were my primary concern since hard plastics haven't even given me anything more than slight quality variation from loose or overly tight setup. The hardest part was to ensure the filament path stayed perfectly straight, the slightest bend and it would kink seconds into the test. Still need to go in and beef up parts of it, the first version lasted a few month and then began to bow without any solid support. Plan for that is to print thicker base with two snug fit holes to insert a thin steel rods, just a couple out of old CD drives. As I learned you have to treat the pressure as a source of heat deformation, same effect just takes longer.
Awesome work dude! Love how you include all misshaps
Good job. Congratulations
This is just simply the best 3D printing channel on TH-cam!
Not surprised, genius as usual, man you did it again, can't wait yo see your next project.
Dit is echte innovatie, geweldig gedaan!!! 👍👍👍
well done, this design is pretty cool
Extremely entertaining video, thanks for doing all this and sharing it
Dude!
That's simply OUTSTANDING!! 🤩
I've only had moderate results with 80 on my Hemera, and ice trued countless dozens of settings and configs, as well as different hardware...
Although it's printed every engineering filament I've thrown at it - sub $150.
I think it's safe to say there's a Proper Printing "Prints All" extruder coming in my near future!
Bravo my friend!
Excellent work indeed!!
Well done. Great video.
Amazing work. You got some mad engineering skills
12:24 every time a try to make a new mod for my printers...
Great video!
very nice iterative-design journey! Shows the problem -> solution -> somehow another problem popped up -> solution, again path very well :D The extruder looks very cool and seems to be technologically quite advanced!
I've been printing flexibles for over 5 years now (started with M3D's "Tough 3D Ink", now working with NinjaFlex 85A). Really happy to see the innovation in this extruder. Next up, maybe switch the hotend to a short, all-metal?
I got burned (business/money sense, not heat) on my last large printer and I'm currently hunting for the most suitable out-of-the-box (i.e. minimal mods) printer for flexibles without going into the crazy stratosphere of $5K plus machines. Seeing what you've done here is a *tremendous* help in that hunt! Great content!
That is incredible!
Awesome!
Legend!! Keep up with great work :)
Well done bro, that’s amazing
This is the first time I have seen this I love it he is amazing.
Great Job!!! Awesome video montage like art and engineering is outstanding!
Awesome video! Educational and entertaining. I love how you own your failures. That's the best way to succeed.
Impressive work!
Dude the thread support rods are genius I have my printer mounted to my desk
Congratulations!
Awesome job!!!
This dude is the most humble genius on youtube yet 👏 🙌 Respect To Jon
I am so freaking excited :-) this looks great
What an impressive journey since your first video! 👍 This extruder is, as usual, a beautiful piece of engineering, it even looks like a Swiss clock mechanism! I love to see this neat models on your screen ❤️
Continue to push the 3D printing further, maybe Joseph P. will hire you soon 😉
You’re a genius. Amazing engineering 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Que genialidad de extrusor , excelente trabajo🎉
awesome job
Nice job! Very cool.
This is awesome!!!
‘This is insane’ indeed! Well done dude!
Great job!