I think the key differences are that an alpha male's status, power, and validation are defined in terms of their relationship to others but a sigma has all that inside himself. That's why he really doesn't need others too much and only associates with those who he truly likes.
Few actually have this sort of internal validation. I’d argue it almost exclusively takes a deeply held non-material purpose in life to achieve that. You’d need to have incredibly static principles and beliefs to have that level of self-validation. But this topic is clearly just the next chapter in Rich’s inevitable path to knowledge and meaning. It’s way freakin’ more than just being accomplished at business and women. Done right, I’d argue those should be a by-product but so many prioritize the material success FIRST, and miss the enrichment of non-material wealth that comes with being a “sigma male”… or whatever label you prefer to place on it.
Yea but it's not so simple. There's a discussion to be had. Introverted people are typically self-isolating, don't have a social circle, are socially awkward in many cases because they don't enjoy social interactions. Alpha males are much more powerful because they can influence people, they have strong leader characteristics, they build strong social networks and can apply their power across society. The ruling class are actively promoting sigma as superior to alpha because as a man it essentially strips you of your power. We're inherently tribal animals, and almost everything of great meaning happens through collective action. Don't forget that. "The lone wolf dies in the winter" -KS
Sigmas dont mean they are completely alone, they are just more select with who they choose to let into thier circle choosing specialist over quantity. I know its fictions but Bruce Wayne/batman is a perfect example of a sigma.
it literally means loner according to the urban dictionary's most liked definition; no species can survive alone and because of that, sigma males are long gone
Sigma here. BSBA Supply-Chain economics, followed by Network security, ex-military, mathematician. The planning thing is wrong. We hate wasting time because we have plans, not because we don't plan. That's entirely incorrect. We can't be manipulated because we'll rarely tell anyone what we're thinking. We're stoic to avoid complications and save time. We read people accurately and form opinions without letting others know what we're up to. We avoid drama like the plague, but we have a tight circle of friends and we're exceedingly loyal. If we determine that our partner is not "all in" we'll leave them without notice, or even a break-up fight.
Very well described. You have to possess these traits to truly relate to them and that rules out most of Rich & Tate's fanboys who need to be led to the point whereby they will pay blindly and hope for that character transplant. It's amusing to watch from afar...
Sigma makes a lot of sense to me. Because I am never a follower of anything but at the same time most of the alpha traits looked meaningless to me. Especially the desire to dominate.
I'm glad you covered this. I've been hearing about this as another "male class" seperate from Alpha, yet I identify with both. Its clear to me now that "Alphas" are egocentric alphas, and "Sigmas" are non-egocentric. I'm a strong Alpha but don't really care what others think of me. I am a HIGH achiever despite countless failures, am creative, intelligent, high critical thinking, charismatic, attractive but am "low status" because I'm tired of socializing with low value and shallow people (which is most of them). Yet I can mix well in ANY social circle, and am utterly tired of the B.S. of women and their inconsistent "needs" and so called "feelings", and feel absolute sorrow for the young males who are growing up in this continually degrading and f'd up world in almost every area of it (i.e. finance, economics, relationships, sensibilities, sociopathic/narcissistic)
Sigmas don’t need to persuade the world they are sigmas. They figure smart high quality people with notice their character. Lower quality - well, it’s a waste of time trying to persuade them plus sigmas don’t need to combat lower IQ as it’s a lose lose battle anyway.
@@bca-biciclindcuaxel7527 in western society USA has the highest incarceration rate per 100k in the world. What I normally do daily in Europe, US men get incarcerated for.
@@bca-biciclindcuaxel7527 you should read books about alpha and sigma energy and educate yourself first. I am assuming that’s what you are doing watching this Chanel and educating yourself. Did you read Unplugged alpha by rich copper? Or 9 iron rules by rollo tomasi? Or rogue warrior by Richard marcinko the the guy who created US seal team six program?
Seems to me the biggest difference is how you value STATUS. Obviously, you can only have high or low status within a group setting - relative to the others within the group. Status doesn’t have much use to you if you are alone. Both are probably fairly low in the trait of agreeableness. The alpha is the extroverted version, and the sigma is introverted. I just read Will Storr’s book, “The Status Game.” Highly recommend.
Definitely feel more like a sigma than alpha - I've got my goals and knock them out but have never cared to impress people, wanted or enjoyed praise from others for my successes etc. Satisfaction for me is almost 100% only felt by accomplishing goals or tasks I chose, but I can step into leadership when necessary and get a team effort organized etc but I don't want or seek leadership roles.
The sigma male is the same as an alpha male, only that he possesses more of an introverted personality. A good example is Thomas Shelby from the Peaky Blinders.
@Aleksander Stryzewski, Great mention (The persona of T. Shelby in PB)! Also worth mentioning is that Time doesn't hold captive the spirit in question. Much like when men think to themselves in private, "I think I belong back in Medieval times" or whenever. Part of the details of these type of spiritual conundrum's also comes with baggage that might get proved in the court of public opinion to be full of Outdated attire. Cheers!
Sigma does not need constant attention or validation. We know we are number one without having to broadcast it to the world. Quiet achievers. We cannot tolerate sycophant behaviour from women or other men & can detect b/s from 500 metres.
Yup that’s me. I think us sigma males are better at spinning plates than alpha males because women want what they can’t have and us sigmas are better at ignoring women
You’re very wrong. That’s like saying men don’t call themselves men because they don’t need validation from anyone. You’ve been lied to just like the feminists.
Wow. That describes me to a tee. Iv never really thought about it. The only personality exception is when am at a boxing gym I can’t help but to show off and be Uber aggressive then I revert back to what I now know as Sigma male. Cheers Rich. Love your work!,
My definition/understanding of a sigma male is: A man who doesn't really care about his position in male hierarchy and social order, yet who's presence and male energy itself commands respect, admiration and fascination. A sigma male could sit in the far corner of the room, just reading or writing, and he still is the center of gravity of that room. He effortlessly draws attention, respect and admiration from both men and women. Without even trying and without any flexing behaviour or speech.
One thing. Apparently, Sigma males do not like themselves to be categorized under a group, any group. So, they won't call themselves Sigmas, to begin with. They'll reject the idea of a hierarchy like Alpha, Beta, nonsense. They are strict individualists. And they stand separately in all aspects. So, if someone says they're a Sigma, they are most definitely not one. Because their individuality will not allow them to be stereotyped.
Sounds like my husband and so many men I know and respect greatly. I think introverted women who are not your typical drama-seeking kind of woman like these type of men a lot. I totally hear what Rich is saying about needing to have some ability to network and develop social graces in order to be successful. I had to do this as a shy young professional…once I developed a web of people, job opportunities were almost effortless. So, I’m sure this is exponentially true for men too. Introverts have to find their way in the world, which seems wired for social people so much more. Interesting content..
I nvr looked at myself as an alpha. Always thought I was on the journey to becoming one and strived for it through hard work and discipline. Now learning what a sigma male is, I think it's much closer to my natural personality and doesn't feel like I need to be someone I'm not. Can't fit everyone into binary labels like beta and alpha. Male and female, you 100% can though lol. always strive for better gentlemen!
Rich love your work, mate. Read your book at least 5 times, another 10 times I'll internalize it. Speaking of which, I'll watched 2500+ TH-cam videos on some of the smartest minds on the planet, Rickards, Rogers, Van Meter, and Sinder, to name a few, I could of definitely fast track my learning being around people like that to bounce off. That's all I've had. So yes, you can do it on your own. It's tough work !!!
Finally found a term to describe myself. Whenever someone asked me before if I thought I was an alpha male, I always responded that I was more lonewolf.
Then you are a gamma, there is no such thing as a "sigma male". Either read real science books or at least stop watching TH-camrs who have a degree in bro science.
I can relate to much of that and I had a similar story to Rich. Nerd with few friends. Kept to myself mostly though because I didn’t have a huge choice but started playing metal and my life completely changed. I quickly became the alpha and then the music scene did an abrupt 180 in the 90s and life got interesting for me after that. After years of trying to figure it all out I find myself wanting to care but not really able to. Living in Orlando for 18 years and being sins the most superficial people really has made me hate peoples like that. I’m not against looking good or having nice things. It’s just that people care way too much and Orlando is a tourist town so there’s no culture or anything and seeing people that literally have nothing going for them in any real value and strive to have everything that’s external was just a really stupid experience for me. Ever since I got into music I learned the value of looking good but when your fashion has a culture underneath it like Metal it gives you more than just an outward persona but there’s a lifestyle there. Most people have no identity anymore because that’s been uprooted so they might look good on the outside but they don’t have any receipts to show for it. That’s probably why a lot of guys identify that way. They see how nonsensical it all is and there’s just no point to looking good and having nice things if it’s just too please others. There has to be more to keep you grounded and steady and unchanging and there’s just not and that’s probably why we exist. It’s not that we don’t want to be around people or be successful. It’s that we know that if that success isn’t grounded in something it’s meaningless and that’s kind of awful to have to maintain a life with no purpose. I guess that it’s better to be financially secure and live meaningless lives than to be broke and that way so you gotta level up somehow
I’ve known I was a sigma before I started watching your Channel. Even as I started listening to you recently, I thought you were more of a sigma male compared to an Alpha. They are equal in so many ways. It was nice to catch this video.
Everything that you said about SIGMA MALE i identify as me. I always goes against the trend I don’t like to be in large group I like small groups and I hate small talk I like to engage in interesting conversation and much more what you said
I am definitely a sigma type. I get tired of being in groups for a long time. It's like I need to recharge. A lot of people know of me but not really know me.
Rich, you talk about it like it's a choice. I relate with all of that, but it's just who I naturally am. I never made a conscious choice to be more of a loner than to be in a gang, it's just who I am.
I recommend a book called “The warrior, the king, the magician, and the lover”. It’s an in depth study of the male archetypes. It defines male aspects in a much more comprehensive fashion than “alpha, beta, sigma… etc. For example; the definition of “sigma” as is presented in this video, is one the the shadow aspects of the magician archetype. We are all combinations of all the archetypes, nobody is simply one or another. Thanks guys. These conversations are helpful.
This Sigma is an introverts self-assessment dream. I think it can be a complex state, but have met plenty of people who claim to disdain "small talk", but then I find out they're not any good at "medium talk" either (to cite that scene of Larry David, true sigma?).
What a sigma male means is vague I didn’t like how the article coined them I generally think it’s something like Introverted Respects everyone until given a reason not to Disagreeable High openness Low neuroticism Independent Strong willed determined Future oriented to a large degree Methodical but not more educated than intelligent Confident in his/her own Pragmatic until given reasons to tweak/improve their ideas (adapt) Doesn’t seek approval from majority of people This is what I’d consider Sigma
To me, it seems to be a linear to intersectional debate when, it is a question that can only find an answer in multiple dimensions. Personally, I don't care, Id rather devote the time to efforts and interests worthy of higher accomplishment. Defining ones "Id" has already been done for us, that's not to say that there is no room or time for improvement. In the end, there is no "absolute". Who and what we are must be adaptable moment to moment or, we fail to recognize potential outcomes for the positive or, the negative. Thanks for the input Rich.
Once you go beyond Alpha and Beta, into Sigma and beyond, you start getting into sub-types. More accurately you are describing personality types. I suggest looking at Meyers-Briggs Personality Inventory. This Sigma sub-type seems closely aligned to an INTJ personality type to me, aka The Architect. Highly successful through quiet, complex strategies. Rich's description also suggests INTP. INTJ only make up 2% of the population, maybe the rarest personality type.
You make a great point about how you can’t really accomplish great things in life without others. But subhanAllah, I came to this realization before you uploaded this video: You can’t TRULY become a sigma without first being an alpha. And that’s because the skills necessary to become a sigma can only be fully developed by becoming an alpha first.
That is Not correct, to be a Sigma male. The man need to have a strugle Life, a fucked Up Life to evolte to a Sigma. Why movies descripe Sigma males as criminals-soldiers-fighters that has a reason.
This is what I was saying about the definition of sigma being in Platos republic, book vii. There he requires the ideal student to not only study, but also to live and work in the world, with people. A sigma is a metaphysical man, who is grounded on earth, like a tree, its roots firmly planted within the ground, its branches and leaves reaching out towards the heavens.
I think a sigma is what an alpha pretends to be. As a sigma, I find I'm always three steps ahead of everyone else in a situation, waiting for the rest to catch up. Also, when you understand what makes an alpha tick, its very easy for a sigma to manipulate them to do what you want them to do.
I've read about a lot of archetypes, especially for the mature masculine, and the Sigma Male archetype is the only one that had made any sort of sense.
I agree. Success is easier to achieve with a network. An intelligent and wise group of men stranded on an island have a greater chance of all surviving if they work together (hence the saying your only as strong as your weakest link) vs conflicting or doing it on their own. No person is more valuable because of their status place. What makes one valuable is situational. Donald Trump was president and gave orders yet the men and women who achieved the desired outcome is where the true value existed. Coaches can give constructive guidance yet never have the potential to achieve what their students will. They both serve their place in the end result however.
Sigma males don't typically tout their label(alpha, beta, sigma, etc) they just exist. Working within systems that require working within, while trying to forge a more solitary path. Seems fairly consistent with the unplugged alphas presentation as he notes, and many persons who would not typically label themselves "alpha". They may also be targeted for scorn due to certain perceptions by others, especially the RP community. They may also be higher on PUA abilities naturally due to the tendency towards introversion. All these terms really serve to divide and distract more so than describe.
So Rich doesn't feel like he belongs any more.....welcome to old age, paisan. I'm older than you, and I can tell you for a fact: at a certain point, you feel like you're no longer part of the world. Not above it or beyond it - just that you're a relic who no longer belongs. My mom, dad and extended relatives all felt the same way once they hit 50.
Accepting late in age, often refusing to accept, rejecting the label, and finally coming to terms with it, I accepted who I am. Always thought this was a slur. Always taught my two kids NOT to be a "lone wolf". The only thing I would disagree with Rich, is that a GENUINE "Sigma" doesn't choose to be one. He is at core a Sigma, which stems from his survival and EXTREME... EXTREME need to be self-reliant. But a Sigma gets tested for the harshest survival instincts and most Sigmas don't make it out with high mortality rate. The ones that do (like me) are often the happiest in self-exiled life and too busy and mission focused. Not a day, I ever walked into an "Alpha" Doman and unable to negotiate better terms for MYSELF. That's what a Sigma is all about. Not looking ''cool". As cor females, never had the need to have one, but NEVER had the issue of getting a good looking female WHEN I need one. Which is again, a Sigma curse in poetry. Don't be a Sigma...it's genuinely a lonely life of hunting, surviving, and staying happy AFTER being genuinely content with it. 👍
If you step into a room with a mentality like “There's a Fox in the Hen House...and I've never eaten better...” That's a sign of the sigma male mentality. It's neither alpha mentality nor beta, but it cleverly lands on the middle ground and reaps all the rewards with a subtle graciousness. 😄 Sigma/Alpha here! 🙋🏻
I think a sigma male is a self-actualized man who is on the blurred boundary between being introverted and extroverted which fits them into that narrow fraction of the general population. Abraham Maslow, the noted Professor of Psychology who is credited with Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs lectured Wayne Dyer. Dyer gave a talk about being self actualized, in that talk he said Maslow described one of the traits of being self actualized as,”…being beyond the good opinion of other people” put another way it’s an attitude that’s not one of indifference or defiance rather it’s one of attention to one’s own purpose in life and the fulfillment that comes in the service of those aims. A sigma male marches toward their their goal to the tune of a drum only they hear. It takes a sharp eye and a keen mind to distinguish a loaner from a sigma. Loaners drift whereas a Sigma is purpose driven and on task - except when they’re having fun. Sigmas are social, their call isn’t leave me alone or follow me it’s …going my way? And, isn’t that the best way to find like minded friends to share adventures with!
Introversion is often miscatagorized. We aren't necessarily shy or antisocial- Im pretty outgoing and can work well with others. Its about where you get your energy from- others, or from within. Sigmas dont feel a need to dominate or compete- but we can intimidate when warranted. And trying to dominate one is a fools errand.
Most people don't like us, because they say we have an air of arrogance about ourselves because we actually have a desire to use critical thinking skills.
I kind of have the attitude that some things are just a waste of time. I'd call myself a sigma in that I'm not a beta but don't have the desire to become an obnoxious alpha. Holding back and just listening is a great source of power, in that a lot of people who love to talk usually only stop long enough to take one foot out of their mouth and put the other one in. I'm 55, an Army Veteran with retirement and disability pay, and a heart attack survivor. I just don't have time for trivial, superficial things or people. I'm OK to never marry if I can't find a quality lady. She has to be a woman, not a girl. And I have ZERO intentions to let a girl rob me of any of my hard earned benefits.
The best definition of Sigma male is the ideal student which Plato describes in book VII (iirc) of the Republic. He also refers to such men as possessing a comprehensive mind. They must also be strong and healthy physically, as well as mentally. Therefore someone who doesn't understand deep intellectual matters, or was bad at mathematics (for example) is automatically ruled out. Thinking should not be burdensome to such a person, for they thrive on reflection.
I think many os us(men), vacillate between sigma and alpha personality. Sometimes you're extroverted, others introverted. It depends on the circumstances and or your mood at that time.
You are what you are. It is natural and it should sit comfortably with you. I am a Sigma Male. I genuinely prefer my own company, however, that said I enjoy to be with people at times and I enjoy my friends. I feel no need to ever impress myself on others and I do not judge. I am my own man. I love women, however, I am rarely in a relationship with a women. I work as a stand alone headhunter and I love training and exercising in the gym and keeping myself to myself. I will talk to people but I do not seek people out. 7:50
Sigma different form of intelligence and reading the room/people. Essentially they see through people. They understand the Alpha and the Beta and make own informed decisions based on data available.
I am grinning. It fascinates me when someone who is not Sigma describes what Sigma is. Every description I have read or listened to was to me very superficial, a bit like describing a person by only speaking of their clothing. In my view the central aspect of a Sigma is that their scope of perception is vast. Sigma people notice things 'normal' people simply do not see and they notice interrelationships of things that others miss. A Sigma understands, accepts, and even honors that people are different, their differences giving rise to incredible possibilities if we don't judge one better than the other. Most of what I notice, what I perceive, cannot be described in words. Except on rare occasions I can only share what to me is a few superficial points and connections. It is painful to wish to share and only be able to share what to me is the surface stuff. Often both I and the other person become frustrated, both experiencing being unable to share what they experience as 'deep and meaningful'. Notice and judge or notice and explore? Focus on the comfort of knowing or on enjoy the flow of being curious and expanding understanding? Focus on conforming with rules others created or focus on creating through expressions of my values? Have fixed goals or choose a general direction and type of experience desired, allowing room for the unexpected? Make the decisions for the group or guide the group, blending their ideas, what they can create? Use words as container or as connection points? And yes, some moments, some days I choose to hold back, enjoying my quirky, fluid world, letting myself be separate.
@@rise7056 Exactly! Most people wonder wtf I am talking about. The way I experience the world is very, very different from what most people experience. Perhaps this will help. People I have talked with who have IQs way, way above 'normal', even well above 'genius IQs', were happy to chat with me. They were surprised I could understand what they were saying. And even more surprised I could add to the conversation. (grin)
@@rise7056 So.... Yes, we all must interact with others and rely on others to provide what we need. What if Sigmas simply carefully 'appear normal' when they interact with others? What if Sigmas easily disguise their abilities? What if Sigmas are 'playful and pleasant' when going to the store, talking with their co-workers, talking with neighbors? What if Sigmas are careful of how much of their 'weirdness' they expose to others? Pretty much all people will do what is necessary to survive. In listening to descriptions of Sigmas I find I match most of the characteristics mentioned. And I have met a few others who match the characteristics used to identify Sigmas. In my view Sigmas do exist and are careful to 'hide' their understanding of life when around intolerant people.
Id say the traits of the placeholder term for "sigma" would be akin to that of "alpha", however just add the fact of being an ambivert with tendencies leaning more towards introverted. Possesses leadership qualities, competence, and confidence, but would rather mostly remain anonymous and only allow those in their inner circle to see them "shine".
Rich is a Sigma! I believe that when people say that sigmas are introverted, they associate that with shyness which is not the case. Sigmas do things with a purpose. They speak with a purpose, they collaborate with a purpose. They don’t do things just for the sake of doing it. I believe that what most people consider an alpha is actually a sigma, and that alpha’s are just as much of followers of social norms as betas are, they’re just more aggressive about it.
I don't really care what I am, but these videos keep popping up in my feed, Everything you said fits me like a glove, my curiosity is how the algorithm connects these videos to certain people. I disagree 100% on having a tribe, the more people around the poorer the decision process, I prefer to be around my animals 😂, and you're also wrong about needing a tribe to get things done, all my builds are all practically done by myself, I only get my friend when absolutely necessary which is hardly ever, some of my builds look like they were done by more than one person.
I'd say there's a time when you need to pivot and be sigma draw from the internal and be able to be alpha if necessary but don't have to weigh in heavily identified as either one. There's benefits in qualities in both in relation to the whole human who's deciding how to engage in the world.
@@ayugoslav5554 I wouldn’t call them con artists, because I have gleaned a lot of useful information from both of those men that has helped me a lot in my dating and relationship life. And I didn’t spend a dime on either of them except for one of Rollo’s books. But nobody’s perfect. Their denial of the sigma male is an example of that.
I realized I was sigma when I was around a fire with 8 women. Politics and social issues were brought up, ya know the typical shit we all argue about every 4 years..After being called every -ist and -ism in the book, I calmly explained my positions on each hot topic and really emphasized how and why nothing will change because they have us all by the (figurative) balls. Voting is just an illusion of choice, and it’s always been about class and power, not race. The fact that us 9 lower middle class citizens were even arguing about details of issues already solved, and not where our money really goes, was eye opening to them all. By the end of about 2 hours I had them all on my side, and got two phone numbers lol
I guess the most Sigma thing I do is when at parties with many people I barely know and don't care about, as soon as I start feeling my social status is challenged, got no one left to talk to, instead of working hard trying to insert my self in to other groups, I just leave. And if asked, I just say "I got bored", which is true.
The more I hear what a Sigma male is the more I realize that I am one. I love being alone or in a small known group. I was deemed incorrigible, uncooperative and a loner when I was "head shrunk" in my pen beef. I was tolerated by the establishment only because I didn't start trouble in the institution. I plan for the worse and hope for the best.
IMO all the sigma stuff is all fortune teller nonsense. It is there to make you feel better and emotionally manipulate you into reading or watching more of those videos on it. I watched a few videos of it but then stopped because none of the videos told me anything that I didn't already know. Exactly fortune teller nonsense. I would stay away.
Sigma's often find alpha's come off as insecure dicks, Tate for example. Keanu Reeves is a decent example of a sigma, cares about others, shares his success, never demands a following or respect because it comes natural to him, when he does have a following he will help out with random acts of kindness instead of monopolising on his follower's lack of success. I could go on....
Hate using labels but if we want to use the label of Sigma male , The only personality types using MBTI system , that are true Sigma Males are intp's & INTj's , Being an InTP myself you would know Since childhood You don't Fit in with people because the burning questions of life , Meaning And an unending curiosity for what lies beyond the physical world / What's in front of you is always on your mind .. you live deep in your mind & objective reality is boring monotonous and And anticlimactic compared to what you have dreamed up in your mind. The problem we have with society and people as a whole is how they don't think for themselves, People Are narcissistic , hedonistic, only care of material possessions, sex , wealth, their place in the social hierarchy, and so much more ... essentially too focused outward .. and rarely ever focused on themselves, We see how sick society and people are and they put this front just to take advantage of each other , We see how people like to engage in meaningless small social conversation and events because they Are trying to manipulate the situation To get ahead , And also because most people just truly can't be by themselves self reflecting , They need to be outdoing something distracted with technology or by other people. I can elaborate further but Essentially you don't want to be a sigma male & neither do we ... Because this is a social species and we have to fight and pretend every day that we like being a part of it what we naturally do not ,
Very very well articulated! Subscribe 100% to your description. I am thinking God was feeling like a Sigma when He decided to create the small and large creatures and people...maybe to enjoy some funny and simple company .... Funniest thing I find about humanity is ...how simple they think. Look up in the sky simple people: we have ballons!
Yep, sigma may be for non-sigmas like this movie character they find fascinating. Meanwhile sigma tries to move ahead in a seemingly endless swamp. Not easy at all, not very romantic living it.
When a man has sigma and omega traits he becomes superrior in every part of life - smegma male. On the serious note. Love how this alpha/beta meme evolved and got so far.
These creatures are very few, very very few. It’s actually a cultural symbol, it’s an archetype that is having trouble materializing into the decadent and irreligious modern age. Carl Jung’s work is a perspective on this.
I think the key differences are that an alpha male's status, power, and validation are defined in terms of their relationship to others but a sigma has all that inside himself. That's why he really doesn't need others too much and only associates with those who he truly likes.
YUP!!
Alpha male depends on external validation
Sigma Male depends on internal validation----> and that leads to self actualization-----> Nirvana!!!
I agree! To me, sigma is introverted alpha.
Few actually have this sort of internal validation.
I’d argue it almost exclusively takes a deeply held non-material purpose in life to achieve that.
You’d need to have incredibly static principles and beliefs to have that level of self-validation.
But this topic is clearly just the next chapter in Rich’s inevitable path to knowledge and meaning.
It’s way freakin’ more than just being accomplished at business and women. Done right, I’d argue those should be a by-product but so many prioritize the material success FIRST, and miss the enrichment of non-material wealth that comes with being a “sigma male”… or whatever label you prefer to place on it.
Spot on explains me better
@@MrTuttiFrutti Or alpha is just an extroverted sigma
I'd argue that sigmas are purpose driven, alphas are power driven, and betas are comfort driven.
That's a decent breakdown.
That’s an excellent break down.
Lmao true
I would argue a sigma is an introverted alpha
Betas are safety driven.
To me sigma male is simply an introverted alpha.
I think you described that perfectly. My husband is a sigma and his brother is a beta. The difference is astounding!
I thought something similar, the confident introvert.
Yea but it's not so simple. There's a discussion to be had. Introverted people are typically self-isolating, don't have a social circle, are socially awkward in many cases because they don't enjoy social interactions. Alpha males are much more powerful because they can influence people, they have strong leader characteristics, they build strong social networks and can apply their power across society. The ruling class are actively promoting sigma as superior to alpha because as a man it essentially strips you of your power. We're inherently tribal animals, and almost everything of great meaning happens through collective action. Don't forget that. "The lone wolf dies in the winter" -KS
Sigmas dont mean they are completely alone, they are just more select with who they choose to let into thier circle choosing specialist over quantity. I know its fictions but Bruce Wayne/batman is a perfect example of a sigma.
it literally means loner according to the urban dictionary's most liked definition; no species can survive alone and because of that, sigma males are long gone
@@rise7056 Tiger=sigma Lion= Alpha. Watch and observe
@@ALEN1ful tigers will die if they dont reproduce so they arent sigma
@@rise7056 lol who said introverts were always solitary?
@@ALEN1ful lol who was talking about introverts
Sigma here. BSBA Supply-Chain economics, followed by Network security, ex-military, mathematician. The planning thing is wrong. We hate wasting time because we have plans, not because we don't plan. That's entirely incorrect. We can't be manipulated because we'll rarely tell anyone what we're thinking. We're stoic to avoid complications and save time. We read people accurately and form opinions without letting others know what we're up to. We avoid drama like the plague, but we have a tight circle of friends and we're exceedingly loyal. If we determine that our partner is not "all in" we'll leave them without notice, or even a break-up fight.
100% on point Sir.
Very well described. You have to possess these traits to truly relate to them and that rules out most of Rich & Tate's fanboys who need to be led to the point whereby they will pay blindly and hope for that character transplant. It's amusing to watch from afar...
That definitely doesn't describe a Sigma. Sorry guys...
100% correct
Sigma and military? You literally have someone to tell you to go die and you will 😂
You know you are a Sigma, before Sigma started being "cool".
Yeah, but I only found out about this a few months ago, it’s a relief, sort of, to understand me better and know I’m not alone!
Sigma makes a lot of sense to me. Because I am never a follower of anything but at the same time most of the alpha traits looked meaningless to me. Especially the desire to dominate.
I'm glad you covered this. I've been hearing about this as another "male class" seperate from Alpha, yet I identify with both. Its clear to me now that "Alphas" are egocentric alphas, and "Sigmas" are non-egocentric. I'm a strong Alpha but don't really care what others think of me. I am a HIGH achiever despite countless failures, am creative, intelligent, high critical thinking, charismatic, attractive but am "low status" because I'm tired of socializing with low value and shallow people (which is most of them). Yet I can mix well in ANY social circle, and am utterly tired of the B.S. of women and their inconsistent "needs" and so called "feelings", and feel absolute sorrow for the young males who are growing up in this continually degrading and f'd up world in almost every area of it (i.e. finance, economics, relationships, sensibilities, sociopathic/narcissistic)
I run the 97%/3% rule for people generally. 97% of people are dogshit and the 3% are the cream of the crop
I identify as both also. All of the positive traits from each are who I am.
Sigmas don’t need to persuade the world they are sigmas. They figure smart high quality people with notice their character. Lower quality - well, it’s a waste of time trying to persuade them plus sigmas don’t need to combat lower IQ as it’s a lose lose battle anyway.
You're not a strong Alpha if you're a low value man, you're contradicting yourself
Amen brother
I find this topic very interesting. Thank you for covering it.
It’s always better to ask for forgiveness than ask for permission. True alpha and Sigma frame. Thanks Rich.
@FluffyBunniesandKittens your name alone makes me stay the hell away from your interpretation of reality.
Sounds like the story of every criminal and rapist :))
@@bca-biciclindcuaxel7527 in western society USA has the highest incarceration rate per 100k in the world. What I normally do daily in Europe, US men get incarcerated for.
@@ackbuilder8262 Give an example what of ''what you normally do in Europe '' :))
@@bca-biciclindcuaxel7527 you should read books about alpha and sigma energy and educate yourself first. I am assuming that’s what you are doing watching this Chanel and educating yourself. Did you read Unplugged alpha by rich copper? Or 9 iron rules by rollo tomasi? Or rogue warrior by Richard marcinko the the guy who created US seal team six program?
Seems to me the biggest difference is how you value STATUS.
Obviously, you can only have high or low status within a group setting - relative to the others within the group. Status doesn’t have much use to you if you are alone.
Both are probably fairly low in the trait of agreeableness. The alpha is the extroverted version, and the sigma is introverted.
I just read Will Storr’s book, “The Status Game.” Highly recommend.
Definitely feel more like a sigma than alpha - I've got my goals and knock them out but have never cared to impress people, wanted or enjoyed praise from others for my successes etc. Satisfaction for me is almost 100% only felt by accomplishing goals or tasks I chose, but I can step into leadership when necessary and get a team effort organized etc but I don't want or seek leadership roles.
I just checked your profile; you are a beta bro.
@@MrAmbrosse spoken like a true beta, bro.
"The Unplugged Salpha" Hahahahaha,
Great content as always Mr. Cooper.
Extroversion is one of the traits we typically associate with the alpha male, but I've always thought of "sigma" as just an introverted alpha.
The sigma male is the same as an alpha male, only that he possesses more of an introverted personality. A good example is Thomas Shelby from the Peaky Blinders.
@Aleksander Stryzewski, Great mention (The persona of T. Shelby in PB)! Also worth mentioning is that Time doesn't hold captive the spirit in question. Much like when men think to themselves in private, "I think I belong back in Medieval times" or whenever. Part of the details of these type of spiritual conundrum's also comes with baggage that might get proved in the court of public opinion to be full of Outdated attire. Cheers!
Sigma does not need constant attention or validation.
We know we are number one without having to broadcast it to the world.
Quiet achievers.
We cannot tolerate sycophant behaviour from women or other men & can detect b/s from 500 metres.
Yup that’s me. I think us sigma males are better at spinning plates than alpha males because women want what they can’t have and us sigmas are better at ignoring women
Lol imagine calling yourself a sigma male
Sigma never call themselves Sigma…
They don’t need validation from anyone.
You’re very wrong. That’s like saying men don’t call themselves men because they don’t need validation from anyone. You’ve been lied to just like the feminists.
Cringelord is what you are
Ok sigma male Tyrone. A sigma myself, I support all sigmas worldwide.
Wow. That describes me to a tee. Iv never really thought about it. The only personality exception is when am at a boxing gym I can’t help but to show off and be Uber aggressive then I revert back to what I now know as Sigma male. Cheers Rich. Love your work!,
My definition/understanding of a sigma male is: A man who doesn't really care about his position in male hierarchy and social order, yet who's presence and male energy itself commands respect, admiration and fascination.
A sigma male could sit in the far corner of the room, just reading or writing, and he still is the center of gravity of that room. He effortlessly draws attention, respect and admiration from both men and women. Without even trying and without any flexing behaviour or speech.
This is all very true. I experience this all the time.
One thing. Apparently, Sigma males do not like themselves to be categorized under a group, any group. So, they won't call themselves Sigmas, to begin with. They'll reject the idea of a hierarchy like Alpha, Beta, nonsense. They are strict individualists. And they stand separately in all aspects.
So, if someone says they're a Sigma, they are most definitely not one. Because their individuality will not allow them to be stereotyped.
yes and no sometimes its ironic to call urself sigma as a sigma
Sounds like my husband and so many men I know and respect greatly. I think introverted women who are not your typical drama-seeking kind of woman like these type of men a lot. I totally hear what Rich is saying about needing to have some ability to network and develop social graces in order to be successful. I had to do this as a shy young professional…once I developed a web of people, job opportunities were almost effortless. So, I’m sure this is exponentially true for men too. Introverts have to find their way in the world, which seems wired for social people so much more. Interesting content..
I nvr looked at myself as an alpha. Always thought I was on the journey to becoming one and strived for it through hard work and discipline. Now learning what a sigma male is, I think it's much closer to my natural personality and doesn't feel like I need to be someone I'm not. Can't fit everyone into binary labels like beta and alpha. Male and female, you 100% can though lol. always strive for better gentlemen!
I think the Sigma archetype is closer to what most men would see as the mature masculine ideal.
Rich love your work, mate. Read your book at least 5 times, another 10 times I'll internalize it. Speaking of which, I'll watched 2500+ TH-cam videos on some of the smartest minds on the planet, Rickards, Rogers, Van Meter, and Sinder, to name a few, I could of definitely fast track my learning being around people like that to bounce off. That's all I've had. So yes, you can do it on your own. It's tough work !!!
When those characteristics kindly describe how you and others view you. It's kind of mind-blowing.
Richard B Cooper coming at you once again with some unplugged alpha stuff lol
Finally found a term to describe myself. Whenever someone asked me before if I thought I was an alpha male, I always responded that I was more lonewolf.
Then you are a gamma, there is no such thing as a "sigma male". Either read real science books or at least stop watching TH-camrs who have a degree in bro science.
wtf man Don't tell people that you are a lonewolf, cringe
Plz don’t call urself that ever dawg.
You’re a cuck just like that stupid TH-camr who let people shag his wife. Was it Destiny clown?!
I can relate to much of that and I had a similar story to Rich.
Nerd with few friends.
Kept to myself mostly though because I didn’t have a huge choice but started playing metal and my life completely changed.
I quickly became the alpha and then the music scene did an abrupt 180 in the 90s and life got interesting for me after that.
After years of trying to figure it all out I find myself wanting to care but not really able to.
Living in Orlando for 18 years and being sins the most superficial people really has made me hate peoples like that.
I’m not against looking good or having nice things.
It’s just that people care way too much and Orlando is a tourist town so there’s no culture or anything and seeing people that literally have nothing going for them in any real value and strive to have everything that’s external was just a really stupid experience for me.
Ever since I got into music I learned the value of looking good but when your fashion has a culture underneath it like Metal it gives you more than just an outward persona but there’s a lifestyle there.
Most people have no identity anymore because that’s been uprooted so they might look good on the outside but they don’t have any receipts to show for it.
That’s probably why a lot of guys identify that way.
They see how nonsensical it all is and there’s just no point to looking good and having nice things if it’s just too please others.
There has to be more to keep you grounded and steady and unchanging and there’s just not and that’s probably why we exist.
It’s not that we don’t want to be around people or be successful.
It’s that we know that if that success isn’t grounded in something it’s meaningless and that’s kind of awful to have to maintain a life with no purpose.
I guess that it’s better to be financially secure and live meaningless lives than to be broke and that way so you gotta level up somehow
I’ve known I was a sigma before I started watching your Channel. Even as I started listening to you recently, I thought you were more of a sigma male compared to an Alpha. They are equal in so many ways. It was nice to catch this video.
Everything that you said about SIGMA MALE i identify as me. I always goes against the trend I don’t like to be in large group I like small groups and I hate small talk I like to engage in interesting conversation and much more what you said
Book 2 “The unplugged Sigma”
I am definitely a sigma type. I get tired of being in groups for a long time. It's like I need to recharge. A lot of people know of me but not really know me.
Rich & anonymous.
Great vid.
Got a pulse?…… you’re a sigma, and you’re a sigma, and YOURE a sigma!!! 😂
Well you have described me 1000%.
Yeah right
Rich, you talk about it like it's a choice. I relate with all of that, but it's just who I naturally am. I never made a conscious choice to be more of a loner than to be in a gang, it's just who I am.
Bro this channel is so valuable thank you 🙏
Expat 🇺🇲 lives in Colombia 🇨🇴 left US to Toxic
Single by choice no Drama ..leading a good life
Thx Rich good Video 👍
I recommend a book called “The warrior, the king, the magician, and the lover”. It’s an in depth study of the male archetypes. It defines male aspects in a much more comprehensive fashion than “alpha, beta, sigma… etc.
For example; the definition of “sigma” as is presented in this video, is one the the shadow aspects of the magician archetype.
We are all combinations of all the archetypes, nobody is simply one or another.
Thanks guys. These conversations are helpful.
Lone wolves die. Sigmas are more like bears. They mind their own business but if need be theyll show you their alpha side.
This Sigma is an introverts self-assessment dream. I think it can be a complex state, but have met plenty of people who claim to disdain "small talk", but then I find out they're not any good at "medium talk" either (to cite that scene of Larry David, true sigma?).
Sigmas are indeed long term thinkers…planners!
What a sigma male means is vague
I didn’t like how the article coined them
I generally think it’s something like
Introverted
Respects everyone until given a reason not to
Disagreeable
High openness
Low neuroticism
Independent
Strong willed
determined
Future oriented to a large degree
Methodical but not more educated than intelligent
Confident in his/her own
Pragmatic until given reasons to tweak/improve their ideas (adapt)
Doesn’t seek approval from majority of people
This is what I’d consider Sigma
To me, it seems to be a linear to intersectional debate when, it is a question that can only find an answer in multiple dimensions. Personally, I don't care, Id rather devote the time to efforts and interests worthy of higher accomplishment. Defining ones "Id" has already been done for us, that's not to say that there is no room or time for improvement. In the end, there is no "absolute".
Who and what we are must be adaptable moment to moment or, we fail to recognize potential outcomes for the positive or, the negative.
Thanks for the input Rich.
I am sigma... put me in any situation I will prevail. Whether I stay or go, I made out and you're stuck wondering who was that guy?
Who was that masked man?😂
Once you go beyond Alpha and Beta, into Sigma and beyond, you start getting into sub-types. More accurately you are describing personality types. I suggest looking at Meyers-Briggs Personality Inventory. This Sigma sub-type seems closely aligned to an INTJ personality type to me, aka The Architect. Highly successful through quiet, complex strategies. Rich's description also suggests INTP. INTJ only make up 2% of the population, maybe the rarest personality type.
You make a great point about how you can’t really accomplish great things in life without others. But subhanAllah, I came to this realization before you uploaded this video:
You can’t TRULY become a sigma without first being an alpha. And that’s because the skills necessary to become a sigma can only be fully developed by becoming an alpha first.
That is Not correct, to be a Sigma male. The man need to have a strugle Life, a fucked Up Life to evolte to a Sigma. Why movies descripe Sigma males as criminals-soldiers-fighters that has a reason.
Spot on, Sigma is really a subtype of the Alpha category of man.
This is what I was saying about the definition of sigma being in Platos republic, book vii. There he requires the ideal student to not only study, but also to live and work in the world, with people. A sigma is a metaphysical man, who is grounded on earth, like a tree, its roots firmly planted within the ground, its branches and leaves reaching out towards the heavens.
I think a sigma is what an alpha pretends to be. As a sigma, I find I'm always three steps ahead of everyone else in a situation, waiting for the rest to catch up. Also, when you understand what makes an alpha tick, its very easy for a sigma to manipulate them to do what you want them to do.
I've read about a lot of archetypes, especially for the mature masculine, and the Sigma Male archetype is the only one that had made any sort of sense.
I agree. Success is easier to achieve with a network. An intelligent and wise group of men stranded on an island have a greater chance of all surviving if they work together (hence the saying your only as strong as your weakest link) vs conflicting or doing it on their own.
No person is more valuable because of their status place. What makes one valuable is situational. Donald Trump was president and gave orders yet the men and women who achieved the desired outcome is where the true value existed.
Coaches can give constructive guidance yet never have the potential to achieve what their students will. They both serve their place in the end result however.
"cuz the internet is freakin weird dude" I felt that lol
Sigma males don't typically tout their label(alpha, beta, sigma, etc) they just exist. Working within systems that require working within, while trying to forge a more solitary path. Seems fairly consistent with the unplugged alphas presentation as he notes, and many persons who would not typically label themselves "alpha". They may also be targeted for scorn due to certain perceptions by others, especially the RP community. They may also be higher on PUA abilities naturally due to the tendency towards introversion.
All these terms really serve to divide and distract more so than describe.
So Rich doesn't feel like he belongs any more.....welcome to old age, paisan. I'm older than you, and I can tell you for a fact: at a certain point, you feel like you're no longer part of the world. Not above it or beyond it - just that you're a relic who no longer belongs. My mom, dad and extended relatives all felt the same way once they hit 50.
Accepting late in age, often refusing to accept, rejecting the label, and finally coming to terms with it, I accepted who I am. Always thought this was a slur. Always taught my two kids NOT to be a "lone wolf". The only thing I would disagree with Rich, is that a GENUINE "Sigma" doesn't choose to be one. He is at core a Sigma, which stems from his survival and EXTREME... EXTREME need to be self-reliant. But a Sigma gets tested for the harshest survival instincts and most Sigmas don't make it out with high mortality rate. The ones that do (like me) are often the happiest in self-exiled life and too busy and mission focused. Not a day, I ever walked into an "Alpha" Doman and unable to negotiate better terms for MYSELF. That's what a Sigma is all about. Not looking ''cool". As cor females, never had the need to have one, but NEVER had the issue of getting a good looking female WHEN I need one. Which is again, a Sigma curse in poetry. Don't be a Sigma...it's genuinely a lonely life of hunting, surviving, and staying happy AFTER being genuinely content with it. 👍
If you step into a room with a mentality like “There's a Fox in the Hen House...and I've never eaten better...” That's a sign of the sigma male mentality. It's neither alpha mentality nor beta, but it cleverly lands on the middle ground and reaps all the rewards with a subtle graciousness. 😄 Sigma/Alpha here! 🙋🏻
Good video
I think a sigma male is a self-actualized man who is on the blurred boundary between being introverted and extroverted which fits them into that narrow fraction of the general population. Abraham Maslow, the noted Professor of Psychology who is credited with Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs lectured Wayne Dyer. Dyer gave a talk about being self actualized, in that talk he said Maslow described one of the traits of being self actualized as,”…being beyond the good opinion of other people” put another way it’s an attitude that’s not one of indifference or defiance rather it’s one of attention to one’s own purpose in life and the fulfillment that comes in the service of those aims. A sigma male marches toward their their goal to the tune of a drum only they hear. It takes a sharp eye and a keen mind to distinguish a loaner from a sigma. Loaners drift whereas a Sigma is purpose driven and on task - except when they’re having fun. Sigmas are social, their call isn’t leave me alone or follow me it’s …going my way? And, isn’t that the best way to find like minded friends to share adventures with!
Rich and Anonymous. I love it.
Rich and anonymous any day of the week🦅
I like that video Rich ! Yeah ,I definately believe that I fit the profile of a Sigma Male.
It's not necessarily a lone wolf mentality. Just very selective of who is in the inner circle.
Introversion is often miscatagorized. We aren't necessarily shy or antisocial- Im pretty outgoing and can work well with others. Its about where you get your energy from- others, or from within.
Sigmas dont feel a need to dominate or compete- but we can intimidate when warranted. And trying to dominate one is a fools errand.
Most people don't like us, because they say we have an air of arrogance about ourselves because we actually have a desire to use critical thinking skills.
I agree with a number of the point made in this video
Good video - people should know man.
I kind of have the attitude that some things are just a waste of time. I'd call myself a sigma in that I'm not a beta but don't have the desire to become an obnoxious alpha. Holding back and just listening is a great source of power, in that a lot of people who love to talk usually only stop long enough to take one foot out of their mouth and put the other one in. I'm 55, an Army Veteran with retirement and disability pay, and a heart attack survivor. I just don't have time for trivial, superficial things or people. I'm OK to never marry if I can't find a quality lady. She has to be a woman, not a girl. And I have ZERO intentions to let a girl rob me of any of my hard earned benefits.
The major difference is just their perspective of status!
Great video Rich. I have wondered about this title. I can relate with most of it.
The best definition of Sigma male is the ideal student which Plato describes in book VII (iirc) of the Republic. He also refers to such men as possessing a comprehensive mind. They must also be strong and healthy physically, as well as mentally. Therefore someone who doesn't understand deep intellectual matters, or was bad at mathematics (for example) is automatically ruled out. Thinking should not be burdensome to such a person, for they thrive on reflection.
Am currently reading his book the unplugged
I think many os us(men), vacillate between sigma and alpha personality. Sometimes you're extroverted, others introverted.
It depends on the circumstances and or your mood at that time.
Sounds like an introvert Alpha male 💪
You are what you are. It is natural and it should sit comfortably with you. I am a Sigma Male. I genuinely prefer my own company, however, that said I enjoy to be with people at times and I enjoy my friends. I feel no need to ever impress myself on others and I do not judge. I am my own man. I love women, however, I am rarely in a relationship with a women. I work as a stand alone headhunter and I love training and exercising in the gym and keeping myself to myself. I will talk to people but I do not seek people out. 7:50
Sigma different form of intelligence and reading the room/people. Essentially they see through people. They understand the Alpha and the Beta and make own informed decisions based on data available.
Sorry Rich didn't hear your shout out. Salute to you sir.
I am grinning. It fascinates me when someone who is not Sigma describes what Sigma is. Every description I have read or listened to was to me very superficial, a bit like describing a person by only speaking of their clothing. In my view the central aspect of a Sigma is that their scope of perception is vast. Sigma people notice things 'normal' people simply do not see and they notice interrelationships of things that others miss. A Sigma understands, accepts, and even honors that people are different, their differences giving rise to incredible possibilities if we don't judge one better than the other. Most of what I notice, what I perceive, cannot be described in words. Except on rare occasions I can only share what to me is a few superficial points and connections. It is painful to wish to share and only be able to share what to me is the surface stuff. Often both I and the other person become frustrated, both experiencing being unable to share what they experience as 'deep and meaningful'. Notice and judge or notice and explore? Focus on the comfort of knowing or on enjoy the flow of being curious and expanding understanding? Focus on conforming with rules others created or focus on creating through expressions of my values? Have fixed goals or choose a general direction and type of experience desired, allowing room for the unexpected? Make the decisions for the group or guide the group, blending their ideas, what they can create? Use words as container or as connection points? And yes, some moments, some days I choose to hold back, enjoying my quirky, fluid world, letting myself be separate.
what tf are you talking about?
@@rise7056 Exactly! Most people wonder wtf I am talking about. The way I experience the world is very, very different from what most people experience. Perhaps this will help. People I have talked with who have IQs way, way above 'normal', even well above 'genius IQs', were happy to chat with me. They were surprised I could understand what they were saying. And even more surprised I could add to the conversation. (grin)
@Pedro Silva Thanks!
@@colmpullen4702 ok but ill tell u a message that has more iq than a sigma:
no human can survive alone so sigmas dont exist
@@rise7056 So.... Yes, we all must interact with others and rely on others to provide what we need. What if Sigmas simply carefully 'appear normal' when they interact with others? What if Sigmas easily disguise their abilities? What if Sigmas are 'playful and pleasant' when going to the store, talking with their co-workers, talking with neighbors? What if Sigmas are careful of how much of their 'weirdness' they expose to others? Pretty much all people will do what is necessary to survive. In listening to descriptions of Sigmas I find I match most of the characteristics mentioned. And I have met a few others who match the characteristics used to identify Sigmas. In my view Sigmas do exist and are careful to 'hide' their understanding of life when around intolerant people.
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Thanks brother
Id say the traits of the placeholder term for "sigma" would be akin to that of "alpha", however just add the fact of being an ambivert with tendencies leaning more towards introverted. Possesses leadership qualities, competence, and confidence, but would rather mostly remain anonymous and only allow those in their inner circle to see them "shine".
Sounds like an introverted "Alpha" is what I'm getting
Rich is a Sigma! I believe that when people say that sigmas are introverted, they associate that with shyness which is not the case. Sigmas do things with a purpose. They speak with a purpose, they collaborate with a purpose. They don’t do things just for the sake of doing it.
I believe that what most people consider an alpha is actually a sigma, and that alpha’s are just as much of followers of social norms as betas are, they’re just more aggressive about it.
I don't really care what I am, but these videos keep popping up in my feed, Everything you said fits me like a glove, my curiosity is how the algorithm connects these videos to certain people. I disagree 100% on having a tribe, the more people around the poorer the decision process, I prefer to be around my animals 😂, and you're also wrong about needing a tribe to get things done, all my builds are all practically done by myself, I only get my friend when absolutely necessary which is hardly ever, some of my builds look like they were done by more than one person.
Sigma is like a peaceful outlaw cowboy. Roaming the free range.
I was Sigma before Sigma was a word
❤
I'd say there's a time when you need to pivot and be sigma draw from the internal and be able to be alpha if necessary but don't have to weigh in heavily identified as either one. There's benefits in qualities in both in relation to the whole human who's deciding how to engage in the world.
Some of us feel misunderstood and not fit into mainstream. So we like to stay off the grid. Privacy is important
A Sigma is just an introverted Alpha.
Some in the “manosphere” deny the existence of the sigma male. Mostly Rollo and Donovan Sharpe.
Both con artists
They have to do more research. Sigmas are rare
@@ayugoslav5554 I wouldn’t call them con artists, because I have gleaned a lot of useful information from both of those men that has helped me a lot in my dating and relationship life. And I didn’t spend a dime on either of them except for one of Rollo’s books. But nobody’s perfect. Their denial of the sigma male is an example of that.
I realized I was sigma when I was around a fire with 8 women. Politics and social issues were brought up, ya know the typical shit we all argue about every 4 years..After being called every -ist and -ism in the book, I calmly explained my positions on each hot topic and really emphasized how and why nothing will change because they have us all by the (figurative) balls. Voting is just an illusion of choice, and it’s always been about class and power, not race. The fact that us 9 lower middle class citizens were even arguing about details of issues already solved, and not where our money really goes, was eye opening to them all. By the end of about 2 hours I had them all on my side, and got two phone numbers lol
I value silence more than status. An above average life and not be surrounded by people all the time, I prefer that over richness
I guess the most Sigma thing I do is when at parties with many people I barely know and don't care about, as soon as I start feeling my social status is challenged, got no one left to talk to, instead of working hard trying to insert my self in to other groups, I just leave. And if asked, I just say "I got bored", which is true.
Lol the sigma alpha omega male lore is the male version of astrology
The more I hear what a Sigma male is the more I realize that I am one. I love being alone or in a small known group. I was deemed incorrigible, uncooperative and a loner when I was "head shrunk" in my pen beef. I was tolerated by the establishment only because I didn't start trouble in the institution. I plan for the worse and hope for the best.
This sigma male, alpha shit is starting to sound like the use my pronouns crap. What the F is happening to us???
IMO all the sigma stuff is all fortune teller nonsense. It is there to make you feel better and emotionally manipulate you into reading or watching more of those videos on it. I watched a few videos of it but then stopped because none of the videos told me anything that I didn't already know. Exactly fortune teller nonsense. I would stay away.
So a sigma male is basically David Goggins.
Sigma's often find alpha's come off as insecure dicks, Tate for example. Keanu Reeves is a decent example of a sigma, cares about others, shares his success, never demands a following or respect because it comes natural to him, when he does have a following he will help out with random acts of kindness instead of monopolising on his follower's lack of success. I could go on....
I just want to be left alone to run my business, ride motorcycles and walk my dog. If nobody else existed except the next customer I’d be in heaven.
Hate using labels but if we want to use the label of Sigma male , The only personality types using MBTI system , that are true Sigma Males are intp's & INTj's , Being an InTP myself you would know Since childhood You don't Fit in with people because the burning questions of life , Meaning And an unending curiosity for what lies beyond the physical world / What's in front of you is always on your mind .. you live deep in your mind & objective reality is boring monotonous and And anticlimactic compared to what you have dreamed up in your mind. The problem we have with society and people as a whole is how they don't think for themselves, People Are narcissistic , hedonistic, only care of material possessions, sex , wealth, their place in the social hierarchy, and so much more ... essentially too focused outward .. and rarely ever focused on themselves, We see how sick society and people are and they put this front just to take advantage of each other , We see how people like to engage in meaningless small social conversation and events because they Are trying to manipulate the situation To get ahead , And also because most people just truly can't be by themselves self reflecting , They need to be outdoing something distracted with technology or by other people. I can elaborate further but Essentially you don't want to be a sigma male & neither do we ... Because this is a social species and we have to fight and pretend every day that we like being a part of it what we naturally do not ,
Very very well articulated! Subscribe 100% to your description. I am thinking God was feeling like a Sigma when He decided to create the small and large creatures and people...maybe to enjoy some funny and simple company ....
Funniest thing I find about humanity is ...how simple they think.
Look up in the sky simple people: we have ballons!
Yep, sigma may be for non-sigmas like this movie character they find fascinating. Meanwhile sigma tries to move ahead in a seemingly endless swamp. Not easy at all, not very romantic living it.
When a man has sigma and omega traits he becomes superrior in every part of life - smegma male.
On the serious note. Love how this alpha/beta meme evolved and got so far.
These creatures are very few, very very few. It’s actually a cultural symbol, it’s an archetype that is having trouble materializing into the decadent and irreligious modern age. Carl Jung’s work is a perspective on this.