I really do think the gameplay looks fine, but this map just isnt it. Please god let this just be bad marketing... Also thank you for 2k! Also my thoughts on Terminus are the same that shit is GAS!!!
What they should do is if they want the map to stay daytime, they should change the sky box so that it looks like the sun is setting. That way, the map is a bit darker because the sky is orange
You guys don‘t get it. This Zombies is NOT for you. It‘s for casuals so they having fun using loadouts, streaks and getting guided because nearly all of these ppl are dumb af. Casuals don‘t know the old Zombies CoD‘s job is not to entertain old fans, old mp veterans or old zombie players. It‘s a game for casuals and streamers. They don‘t care about you and what you want. They want easy and fast money so they made the game very easy. That‘s all folks
Zombies hasn’t been good since Bo3. Activision killing the zombies series in Bo4 by rushing the devs and taking all priority off that mode of thr game killed it
BO4 zombies wasn't rushed, it was envisioned. After failed reception from the playerbase, from the mode being too different from past installments, future planned dlc for year 2 were completely scrapped while the final 2 maps were reined in by an outside source.
@@silencedmaxim5889it’s outsourcing, lazy use of resources and still pressure from activision and shareholders at the end of the day that resulted in all of these decisions Same reason bo6 is on codhub, it pleases shareholders
I throughly enjoyed Cold War in actually going back and playing it again and die machine alone has kept me entertained the past week. I’m really hoping zombies this year will be good but more than likely picking it up on sale
@@titustheboxer2364 die machine is a really good entry level map. It’s well designed, the inside is dark, it’s good for new and returning players My issues with the map are Ring of fire just makes the entire game a joke, but also outside feels like a multiplayer asset esp with being able to start with a M4 or whatever The other one was the handheld Easter eggs, we got hand held all the way through the entire game and it became really stale as one of the best parts of zombies for me is being able to play a map so many different ways
there’s a bunch of rumors that the mansion and underground portion are only accessible via easter egg based on some voice line from the dude, which gives me a good amount more hope. Though thinking about that they should’ve just showcased this map for like 15 minutes or so
@@Code_6_BelugaYea but to be fair this is big on the community for expecting crazy shit when this map was stated by devs a while ago to be the fun casual grinding map
I KEEP SAYING IT, This isnt Treyarch anymore since David Vonderhaar left the studio. The actual developers have absolutely no say in what is put into the game anymore.
I agree with pretty much everything you said. how in the hell have they managed to make a map more bland than the Cold War maps!!?! We went from such unique maps 10 years ago with buried, gorod krovi and der eisendrache etc etc to this wide open bland basic multiplayer map…
@@leonbowers500confirmed were getting a 3rd map before 2025 which means one-two months after launch. Similar to how they dropped Dead of the Night back in Bo4
Fixes :- Sky box is okay but needs more lighting changes for eg the sun should be at a height where it feels like its between horizon and noon . The streets are washed by detergent (problem with terminus too) they need to add decals , blood , decayed body parts , destroyed cars , burning trucks , roadblocks, stones , metal scarps , broken woods , make the buildings more damaged All of this can be done in 12 days if i was the incharge
@@Cantdecide0216 exactly just like bo4 nuketown and trust me as a game dev veteran this will 90% fix the atmospheric problem with the map and the map also needs some atmospheric/exponential height fog
@@itzarcade5141 yeah also, I think they should have had playable characters I don't know why they want us to play as operators, even though they know no one want that
Guys i really though about it for the past month and i think for the next sale i will get the bo2 season pass, to play zombies maps i last played 10 years ago with an old friend. Do you think its a good idea ? Sorry bad english
I think they always told us that Terminus was the main map and this one was a more relaxed experience. I don't really think the map is that bad. I do think the map has a big lack of identity, but I don't think it is the only thing that matters, the gameplay looks really reaaaally smooth, the progression inside a single map looks good, you cannot be overpowered in early round because the perks are not like in cold war and, as you said, the armor is also too expensive for early rounds. In other words, we should wait till the game comes out and we see if the map feels better once everything is released or not, maybe it goes higher than a 3/10. Nice video c:
Just noticed the powerup icon overlaps over the perk icons. Also love everyone calling that tier 1 pack a punch camo the baked beans camo, glad i wasnt the only one.
How did we go from Terminus to this? Terminus looks awesome, but I am not joking when I say this, I thought you were playing MWZ gameplay in the background. Very disappointing
I like hearing the negatives out right first so you can have your expectations low. Then not really hype up the positives but just appreciating the cool shit that they did to the gameplay but the atmosphere is really lackluster I wish we had just a little bit more post apocalyptic vibe like the Nuketown zombies map on bo2
Thank you, i try and just say my thoughts honestly. God know how many big creators sugar coat shit. Thankfully first impressions can be changed and we will see what happens
@@Code_6_BelugaI mean most big creators have been pretty honest with criticism. It's just that they did have fun I mean dalek definitely had fun for example. Dude looked sad he got kicked off.
As far as the difficulty goes. I'm almost certain they made it easy for this event, so non zombies players can get to high rounds. Duke Dennis got to 50. I've noticed plenty of times where he should've gone down and like you said no sprinters past 30.
We always knew this map was an MP map with zombies since the first bo6 gameplay trailer and the map takes place when a zombies outbreak has JUST occurred but I will agree it needs some more zombies visual flare, maybe aether-ify some of the buildingsand some more blood stains on the walls. Just spitballing ideas
It seems that the biggest issue is the Cod HQ, it makes everything all one, so all the bad parts of one zombies spreads to the others, same with multiplayer. I believe this zombies was made by Sledgehammer.
To me, what should have been the first sign of zombies being no longer what it used to be is the recycled story and calling it "separate" from Aether and yet......
I just dont like the Aether stuff 😕 zombies used to be just about nazis, samantha, an interesting storyline. This new timeline for zombies sucks (bosses are fine like abominations) but, it sucks to see as a long term player.
We need Jason Blundell back making zombies. But Liberty Falls looks amazing. It's a regular small town that so happens has a zombie outbreak all the BO3 maps take place in a world where humans don't exist anymore and zombies have overrun the whole world. This to me makes perfect sense. I'm convinced these kids just want to cry and complain about everything. Nothing he said had any validity. At least give us 1 reason that makes sense.
Idk the whole “he got to round 30 on his first try of the map” to me, this map is very simple. Old school. Hit the box, get your perks, and just kill zombies. If a map has a really powerful wonder weapon like this does, getting to a high round will never be all that hard. I haven’t played any zombies in years like 5-6 bo3 was the last time I played a lottttt, and I just loaded up DE the other day to get back into it and built the wolf bow and trained in the death ray area and got to round 50 before I had to get off without a single down. When you just jump into a map and don’t worry about doing any crazy Easter eggs, it’s usually not that hard if the map provides you with a good enough weapon
4:43 Nah that was xfinity with there shit internet last time i was in dc xfinity is like the only internet in most of the areas and there 1gb speeds are bad always something going on.
@@Code_6_BelugaI'm sorry I actually unironically love the bean look. But I'm getting kinda tired of random color patterns I miss the more unique pap camos. That would be themed around the map. Like rev looking like the skybox, origins looking like 115,ZnS having that swampy camo etc.
honestly would rather have got a the giant classified or town map small basic actuially feels like zombies throw in these bosses or special zombies make it a challenge
If they made this map do the nuke town zombies route it could’ve been good but no it’s just some basic multiplayer map with zombies that aren’t even dangerous
I feel like the only reason it is mid and not trash is because the game play and the jetgun. Which the Jetgun didn't even seem all that great in the bit that I saw
A few issues with the game. 1. Zombies has gotten easier as players have gotten better, so they should put more emphasis on the difficulty scalling starting with rounds 30+ because if round 40 is easy it makes it boring to everyone. 2. The atmosphere is bland and dry, there is nothing there compared to the likes of WaW to bo3 and it is obvious. 3. The hud is just reused warzone and it takes away from the feeling of zombies. The gameplay mechanics are great and a nice shakeup, but that's it.
If Liberty Falls Easter egg doesn’t open a new section of the map that we saw in the trailer or doesn’t significant improve the map in some way I don’t really see the map getting the love old survival maps like town and farm get
I mean to me this looks more fun than those maps. Those maps are a different style of gameplay though and this is more like the giant. A super easy, non complicated map that’s good for chilling and leveling up guns and going for camos. And the new jet gun just looks awesome
@@tehCostHDI agree the jet gun looks awesome and the ray gun is cool: but this is gameplay stuff, not the map. As code said in the video. Imma stay hopeful for now but I’m not really that excited for this map Town, Farm, Bus Depot, all gritty dark maps that are zombies, this is just a MP skinned zombies game
The other thing is town had some open areas but all the buildings were tight, bus depot the bus depot was tight and the fire restricts outside movement, Farm is really tight, dark and hard to effectively play. In contract this maps challenge level for a survival map looks like a joke
@@tehCostHD yeah it’s a bit disappointing but I’m really hopeful a round count will flip it cause it’s survival or the EE changes asthetics like how SoE flipped after getting pap
It doesn’t have to be apothecan I believe it would do so much better if the spaces for training were minimal and the map as a whole tighter but as for aesthetic I believe a simple waw or bo1 Lino vibe would do good. Like a really overrun vibe scary
tbh my biggest problem is the hud is fkin gross, constant warzone mechanics which is annoying and also new perk looks useless ): also seems super easy tbh I think in terms of the maps look it should've had more dark aether like it creeping into the world would've been awesome
Bring back 2 hit, double tap 2.0, no hp bar, no minimap, no help with EEs, super sprinters, infinite scaling zombie health, and buidable shield over plates…
Biggest complaint from me, just from this gameplay alone, is how WIDE the area to move around is. I'm fine with an area here and there being fairly wide, but EVERYWHERE?!?!? That just dampens the experience to being cheapishly easy. Bring back the suffocatingly tight corridors of Verruckt and "give me a real fight".
You're expecting it to be something its not trying to for. Terminus falls is the map we wanted, this is a casual map for the multiplayer audience. I'm pretty sure they said it would be exactly that. Even so, there's still more to the map, theres no reason to get your panties so wound up already.
Then they need their marketing to not hype this to death. They drop one of the best trailers i've seen for zombies and it ends up with multiplayer assets. Its a massive disconnect and i should say this is separate from my opinion of Terminus. Terminus still looks fucking badass, and im still hyped for that.
@@Code_6_Beluga Having a good cinematic doesn't mean the map is going to be crazy, The giant has one of the best cinematics and its literally a remake. It's exhausting seeing people get their expectations ridiculously high and cry when they don't get met, as if they are just entitled to having their dreams come true. Learn to manage your expectations and enjoy things for what they are, it's healthier for you than being filled with rage over a video game.
@@Code_6_BelugaFun Fact: The Original 4 maps, Primis Crew, and animations were either MP or Campaign. Our crew that everyone loves to death is just reused assets from other parts. This mode has always had some asset flips, but Liberty Falls might have a small area from MP, but most of the damn map is based off of a real-life location, just like Kino, Mob, Blood, and DE. Terminus is original, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t have MP assets. Every single map does, whether you like it or not (we clearly know the answer). So take a breath and chill out. YOU, have not played the game yet. THEY, have played the game and given it almost unanimous praise for being back to what we all wanted. This complaining before we even get to all play it is insane. You can’t say, “This map is shit and is all MP assets” when the game just finally had its full reveal. If the game comes out and the map is shit, OK, but we don’t have the game yet so wait. The game could look even better than it does when it comes out. Want proof? Look at any of the older betas for CODs, they look much worse than the full game. So take a breath, and chill the fuck out about something that isn’t even out yet.
@@shaun_the_sheip2775fortunately this is an unpopular opinion. The when we are paying someone are hard earned money we should always have the best quality product possible. Terminus better be insane or this game is cooked.
A lot of these points are valid but this whole video comes off as angry yelling rather than constructive criticism. I do hope that what happens is the Easter egg starts making cool shit happen around the map, so that it starts bland like this, but then it becomes better over the course of the quest
To be fair, i did title this as a rant and not a breakdown. Im not gonna bullshit and call it something else, cause thats clickbaiting the veiwer. Btw if you wanna see real criticism check out my other bo6 video. It will be much better i promise
Im honestly so confused what? Soe was never called easy, bland, or boring. I do remember that people were saying it was bad because they keep dying or was too confusing. This is none of that
Am I crazy for thinking the health pool seems really high for how little damage the zombies do? Like, other than the infinitely scaling zombies, I feel like we just need significantly more and making them much faster to match how much faster the players are.
what really get me is that thay are sitting there bragging it took them 4 years to make.. and I'm like nahhh you mean it took you 4 years to reskin😂. and the part where you said the zombies was just walking at 30+ I'm soo glad you said that cause I thought it was me 🤣🤣. but your right anyone thinking this is good it's not at all it's just a reskin... 4 years for a reskin 🙄
Dude got hit by 4 zombies and was still above half health??? Also running with your gun to the side is pretty weird, press triangle to put on armor plates😭 how did they make it worse than Cold War with the armor
Last COD I played was BO3, Haven't touched it since, same old recycled trash every single time they release a new game. So sad to see the downfall of a great franchise over the years.
In my opinion zombies started to turn to shit because of the engine. All this extra movement shit just makes me feel like I’m playing multiplayer or some other crap. I would literally die for another bo3 style map and gameplay. Zombies shouldn’t be a side project with multiplayer it should be a totally separate project that comes with multiplayer
You're looking waaayyy to deep into this imo. Usually when treyarch release two maps the goal for them to be different gameplay wise. Liberty falls just seems like a highround map and also just a way to introduce new mechanics into the game. I'd chill out rn. Wait till the game is out
@foolhardy8426 no lol i've been playing zombies since b01. That's literally the formula they used for b03. Shadows of evil has all those easter eggs and side easter eggs and the giant only has zombies to kill. Liberty falls is meant to play different.
Activision is driving these terrible features that everyone hates, guaranteed. They want to try and attract a casual player to make more money and they don’t care about their player base (see: 2 weeks ago when they scammed thousands of people by shutting down H2M after putting the game on sale.) Even though terminus looks good, the base gameplay mechanics are still terrible. COD is dead.
Like i said gameplay looks good (see my pinned comment), map looks ass imo. But hey if you like it more power to you, im glad people aren't sheep and have their own opinions!
Most of the map looks like a 13 year old made it over the weekend on bo3 creator tools. Looks like MP map. Alleys empty and long streets. Starting area is outbreak
Armour zombies armour for yourself salvage different tier weapons it’s all 🐕 💩 and it’s nothing close to what the community wanted its going to be ass just like you said rip zombies haven’t played anything new since bo3
Other than the map looking like hot garbage and warzone. My real point of contention with how they made the game is how uninspired and soulless it is. Like the announcer is the same as MW3 zombies, HUD elements from vanguard, ect. I can go on about this, just wish it had more of the ambience and horror from the older games but seems not :/
Bro is already hating when it hasn't come out yet. Come on, man, give it two months, and your problem with it will be fixed. Watch treyarch will not let us down
Bro is talking about this like Treyarch personally came up to his house and told him it would feel exactly like bo3. Dude, it's a beta build 2 months early that the creators had like a couple hours at most to play. The streams are probably worse because there's hundreds of people all running their own streams in the same building. They probably made the gameplay easier so everyone wouldn't get instantly railed trying to just show off the bare minimum of gameplay, also because most people playing were multiplayer creators who hadn't played zombies in years. Criticism is one of the most important things for media and I believe it always has its place, but most of these issues can just get solved with basic common sense. Subjectivity is also a factor of course but shitting on something with only half the features the full game will have immediately really doesn't help anything
So a few things, besides the EE and augments what if anything is missing here. Im also still extremely excited for Terminus it looks badass. As for the build and difficulty, all the people invited play cod/video games for a living i dont think zombies would hard to manage for them. Also ngl from beta to launch, cod never really changes much of anything besides gun balancing. Trust me btw im not looking for a BO3, im looking for next big zombies. With Terminus i can see it, but with what i've seen of liberty Falls so far. I fear its going to be like CWR and fall off of a cliff in the first two months.
@@MrScare_ I still do, but those games don't have the same life as the newest call of duty, which they should. Hence why you should make the new CoDs like those, so its a great game thats also current and everyone is playing it.
@@kei1880 If every game is like BO2/BO3, then it isn't it's own game. Similar to how MWIII was so close to MWII, everybody was calling it a glorified dlc. If they were to make a game that was like BO2 and BO3 then the same has to be said. A game without change isn't a game, it's just a re-hash.
This looks like shit. I don’t care if this is “the casual/survival map.” It looks so unpolished and un-zombies compared to bo3/4. I’ll just keep replaying the old games, thanks
Its the same with black ops 4 its a fun game if you aint calling it call of duty black ops zombies So call bo4 zombies BLOPS THE GAME And its good Same for this game give the Zombie mode another name and it can be fun or you compare it to bo 1 or bo 2 and get frustrated
I understand that, but why not copy the footsteps of IX, Town, or The Giant. I did want an easy and noob friendly map, but that still doesnt change how zombies are doing a light jog in the 30s.
@@Code_6_Beluga because they want to meet a half way between making money (by appealing to casuals) and supporting the fan base hence the 2 completely different maps, all new maps are also going to be like terminus instead of this one.
I've got a billion things i could say so i'll just say this - seems like they fucked it lol. Shit still looks like a multiplayer game + recycled content + 300gb + online only = not getting it. If they do good on the dlc i'd consider it for like half off but even then🤷
I really do think the gameplay looks fine, but this map just isnt it. Please god let this just be bad marketing... Also thank you for 2k! Also my thoughts on Terminus are the same that shit is GAS!!!
I agree with your title
What they should do is if they want the map to stay daytime, they should change the sky box so that it looks like the sun is setting. That way, the map is a bit darker because the sky is orange
You guys don‘t get it. This Zombies is NOT for you. It‘s for casuals so they having fun using loadouts, streaks and getting guided because nearly all of these ppl are dumb af. Casuals don‘t know the old Zombies
CoD‘s job is not to entertain old fans, old mp veterans or old zombie players. It‘s a game for casuals and streamers. They don‘t care about you and what you want. They want easy and fast money so they made the game very easy. That‘s all folks
Buddy it wasn't supposed to be anything crazy, I get the vibes of liberty falls aren't that good, but its just a simple one.
Zombies hasn’t been good since Bo3. Activision killing the zombies series in Bo4 by rushing the devs and taking all priority off that mode of thr game killed it
BO4 zombies wasn't rushed, it was envisioned. After failed reception from the playerbase, from the mode being too different from past installments, future planned dlc for year 2 were completely scrapped while the final 2 maps were reined in by an outside source.
@@silencedmaxim5889it’s outsourcing, lazy use of resources and still pressure from activision and shareholders at the end of the day that resulted in all of these decisions
Same reason bo6 is on codhub, it pleases shareholders
@silencedmaxim5889 I enjoy BO4 but it was rushed and it shows in the gameplay
I throughly enjoyed Cold War in actually going back and playing it again and die machine alone has kept me entertained the past week. I’m really hoping zombies this year will be good but more than likely picking it up on sale
@@titustheboxer2364 die machine is a really good entry level map. It’s well designed, the inside is dark, it’s good for new and returning players
My issues with the map are Ring of fire just makes the entire game a joke, but also outside feels like a multiplayer asset esp with being able to start with a M4 or whatever
The other one was the handheld Easter eggs, we got hand held all the way through the entire game and it became really stale as one of the best parts of zombies for me is being able to play a map so many different ways
there’s a bunch of rumors that the mansion and underground portion are only accessible via easter egg based on some voice line from the dude, which gives me a good amount more hope. Though thinking about that they should’ve just showcased this map for like 15 minutes or so
If this is the case this has to be the biggest fuck up for marketing ive seen for b06 so far. I pray that you are correct
@@Code_6_Beluga aye bro i’m praying on my knees too 😭
@@Code_6_BelugaYea but to be fair this is big on the community for expecting crazy shit when this map was stated by devs a while ago to be the fun casual grinding map
I KEEP SAYING IT, This isnt Treyarch anymore since David Vonderhaar left the studio. The actual developers have absolutely no say in what is put into the game anymore.
He didn’t even make zombies he was zombies bruh dumb as hell
I agree with pretty much everything you said. how in the hell have they managed to make a map more bland than the Cold War maps!!?! We went from such unique maps 10 years ago with buried, gorod krovi and der eisendrache etc etc to this wide open bland basic multiplayer map…
Terminus still looks heat tho!
@@Code_6_Beluga terminus looks great tbh. Just a shame that this is going to be 1 of the 2 maps we’ll get for a while.
@@leonbowers500confirmed were getting a 3rd map before 2025 which means one-two months after launch. Similar to how they dropped Dead of the Night back in Bo4
4:26 bro just lol… just loll 😂😂😂
You good at ranting lol keep it up!
Gald to see someone acknowledge this is a RANT and not a in depth look at the map
"DEHYDRATE TO DEATH" LMAO
Honestly this broke my heart because I believe this is the last chance and god knows when or if we are getting something even close to BO2/3
We’re never getting anything like them again it’s the sad truth
Liberty Balls
We got foreskin and liberty balls
Damn I'm not surprised that Activision has disappointed again
Fixes :-
Sky box is okay but needs more lighting changes for eg the sun should be at a height where it feels like its between horizon and noon .
The streets are washed by detergent (problem with terminus too) they need to add decals , blood , decayed body parts , destroyed cars , burning trucks , roadblocks, stones , metal scarps , broken woods , make the buildings more damaged
All of this can be done in 12 days if i was the incharge
They should make the sky look like the sun is setting because right now, the map is too bright, and it kinda kills the mood
@@Cantdecide0216 exactly just like bo4 nuketown and trust me as a game dev veteran this will 90% fix the atmospheric problem with the map and the map also needs some atmospheric/exponential height fog
@@itzarcade5141 yeah also, I think they should have had playable characters I don't know why they want us to play as operators, even though they know no one want that
Guys i really though about it for the past month and i think for the next sale i will get the bo2 season pass, to play zombies maps i last played 10 years ago with an old friend. Do you think its a good idea ? Sorry bad english
Praying that zombies easter egg songs are good!
If black ops 6 flops, H2M IS BACK FOREVER
I think they always told us that Terminus was the main map and this one was a more relaxed experience. I don't really think the map is that bad. I do think the map has a big lack of identity, but I don't think it is the only thing that matters, the gameplay looks really reaaaally smooth, the progression inside a single map looks good, you cannot be overpowered in early round because the perks are not like in cold war and, as you said, the armor is also too expensive for early rounds. In other words, we should wait till the game comes out and we see if the map feels better once everything is released or not, maybe it goes higher than a 3/10. Nice video c:
Why does the raygun shoot so slow?
Just noticed the powerup icon overlaps over the perk icons. Also love everyone calling that tier 1 pack a punch camo the baked beans camo, glad i wasnt the only one.
looks like I'm going back to bo3 again
me and you both brother.
I never left
How did we go from Terminus to this? Terminus looks awesome, but I am not joking when I say this, I thought you were playing MWZ gameplay in the background. Very disappointing
Hopefully they will change a few things since this is a beta.
Nope this is the end result. Its legit 2 months away, you dont just change core maps that quick.
I like hearing the negatives out right first so you can have your expectations low. Then not really hype up the positives but just appreciating the cool shit that they did to the gameplay but the atmosphere is really lackluster I wish we had just a little bit more post apocalyptic vibe like the Nuketown zombies map on bo2
Thank you, i try and just say my thoughts honestly. God know how many big creators sugar coat shit. Thankfully first impressions can be changed and we will see what happens
@@Code_6_BelugaI mean most big creators have been pretty honest with criticism. It's just that they did have fun I mean dalek definitely had fun for example. Dude looked sad he got kicked off.
As far as the difficulty goes. I'm almost certain they made it easy for this event, so non zombies players can get to high rounds. Duke Dennis got to 50. I've noticed plenty of times where he should've gone down and like you said no sprinters past 30.
We always knew this map was an MP map with zombies since the first bo6 gameplay trailer and the map takes place when a zombies outbreak has JUST occurred but I will agree it needs some more zombies visual flare, maybe aether-ify some of the buildingsand some more blood stains on the walls. Just spitballing ideas
It seems that the biggest issue is the Cod HQ, it makes everything all one, so all the bad parts of one zombies spreads to the others, same with multiplayer. I believe this zombies was made by Sledgehammer.
This shit making me hella hyped to go try Infinite Warfare zombies🔥🔥
Ngl people over hated iw zombies, it really wasnt that bad
@@Code_6_Beluga for sure, it looks awesome I just never got around to it
@@jckfrost36 I will say tho dlc 3 and 4 are straight up bad imo
@@Code_6_Beluga When we had to suffer a 3rd year of jetpacking around, a bias was formed to hate the infinite.
Zombies in spaceland still the best non treyarch map alongside the final reich imo
To me, what should have been the first sign of zombies being no longer what it used to be is the recycled story and calling it "separate" from Aether and yet......
I just dont like the Aether stuff 😕 zombies used to be just about nazis, samantha, an interesting storyline. This new timeline for zombies sucks (bosses are fine like abominations) but, it sucks to see as a long term player.
It looks good af
We need Jason Blundell back making zombies. But Liberty Falls looks amazing. It's a regular small town that so happens has a zombie outbreak all the BO3 maps take place in a world where humans don't exist anymore and zombies have overrun the whole world. This to me makes perfect sense. I'm convinced these kids just want to cry and complain about everything. Nothing he said had any validity. At least give us 1 reason that makes sense.
Idk the whole “he got to round 30 on his first try of the map” to me, this map is very simple. Old school. Hit the box, get your perks, and just kill zombies. If a map has a really powerful wonder weapon like this does, getting to a high round will never be all that hard. I haven’t played any zombies in years like 5-6 bo3 was the last time I played a lottttt, and I just loaded up DE the other day to get back into it and built the wolf bow and trained in the death ray area and got to round 50 before I had to get off without a single down. When you just jump into a map and don’t worry about doing any crazy Easter eggs, it’s usually not that hard if the map provides you with a good enough weapon
4:43 Nah that was xfinity with there shit internet last time i was in dc xfinity is like the only internet in most of the areas and there 1gb speeds are bad always something going on.
Love the canned beans PaP camo😅
Thank fuck teir 2 and 3 look amazing
@@Code_6_BelugaI'm sorry I actually unironically love the bean look. But I'm getting kinda tired of random color patterns I miss the more unique pap camos. That would be themed around the map. Like rev looking like the skybox, origins looking like 115,ZnS having that swampy camo etc.
@@RaNgErs_RepThis map is so bland they didn’t know what to do for the pap camo so they just slapped some beans on it
honestly would rather have got a the giant classified or town map small basic actuially feels like zombies throw in these bosses or special zombies make it a challenge
If they made this map do the nuke town zombies route it could’ve been good but no it’s just some basic multiplayer map with zombies that aren’t even dangerous
Liberty falls is ok. Just ok not great but not absolute dog shit either.
it is ok? Imo they managed to make it worse that dog shit.
I feel like the only reason it is mid and not trash is because the game play and the jetgun. Which the Jetgun didn't even seem all that great in the bit that I saw
A few issues with the game. 1. Zombies has gotten easier as players have gotten better, so they should put more emphasis on the difficulty scalling starting with rounds 30+ because if round 40 is easy it makes it boring to everyone. 2. The atmosphere is bland and dry, there is nothing there compared to the likes of WaW to bo3 and it is obvious. 3. The hud is just reused warzone and it takes away from the feeling of zombies. The gameplay mechanics are great and a nice shakeup, but that's it.
If Liberty Falls Easter egg doesn’t open a new section of the map that we saw in the trailer or doesn’t significant improve the map in some way I don’t really see the map getting the love old survival maps like town and farm get
I mean to me this looks more fun than those maps. Those maps are a different style of gameplay though and this is more like the giant. A super easy, non complicated map that’s good for chilling and leveling up guns and going for camos. And the new jet gun just looks awesome
@@tehCostHDI agree the jet gun looks awesome and the ray gun is cool: but this is gameplay stuff, not the map. As code said in the video. Imma stay hopeful for now but I’m not really that excited for this map
Town, Farm, Bus Depot, all gritty dark maps that are zombies, this is just a MP skinned zombies game
The other thing is town had some open areas but all the buildings were tight, bus depot the bus depot was tight and the fire restricts outside movement, Farm is really tight, dark and hard to effectively play.
In contract this maps challenge level for a survival map looks like a joke
@@TizThundR I agree it needed more aesthetically in terms of looking like zombies for sure. There’s the church and that’s it really
@@tehCostHD yeah it’s a bit disappointing but I’m really hopeful a round count will flip it cause it’s survival or the EE changes asthetics like how SoE flipped after getting pap
The map was made for newer players I believe they said this in the very beginning hence why terminus is the way it is
Why do the zombies have a health bar?? Makes it feel like multiplayer, especially with the crazy movement
you can turn it off
You can turn it off and change the hud to your liking
Wherever you been the past 6 years?
I'm glad they added health bar when they did.
It doesn’t have to be apothecan I believe it would do so much better if the spaces for training were minimal and the map as a whole tighter but as for aesthetic I believe a simple waw or bo1 Lino vibe would do good. Like a really overrun vibe scary
Im going to be definitely turning modt aspects of the hud off. Most braindead decision to have zombies hud look like multiplayer
tbh my biggest problem is the hud is fkin gross, constant warzone mechanics which is annoying and also new perk looks useless ): also seems super easy tbh I think in terms of the maps look it should've had more dark aether like it creeping into the world would've been awesome
Bring back 2 hit, double tap 2.0, no hp bar, no minimap, no help with EEs, super sprinters, infinite scaling zombie health, and buidable shield over plates…
Amen to that
Biggest complaint from me, just from this gameplay alone, is how WIDE the area to move around is. I'm fine with an area here and there being fairly wide, but EVERYWHERE?!?!? That just dampens the experience to being cheapishly easy. Bring back the suffocatingly tight corridors of Verruckt and "give me a real fight".
You're expecting it to be something its not trying to for. Terminus falls is the map we wanted, this is a casual map for the multiplayer audience. I'm pretty sure they said it would be exactly that. Even so, there's still more to the map, theres no reason to get your panties so wound up already.
I don’t even know if the multiplayer audience would want to play this shit. 💩
Then they need their marketing to not hype this to death. They drop one of the best trailers i've seen for zombies and it ends up with multiplayer assets. Its a massive disconnect and i should say this is separate from my opinion of Terminus. Terminus still looks fucking badass, and im still hyped for that.
@@Code_6_Beluga Having a good cinematic doesn't mean the map is going to be crazy, The giant has one of the best cinematics and its literally a remake. It's exhausting seeing people get their expectations ridiculously high and cry when they don't get met, as if they are just entitled to having their dreams come true. Learn to manage your expectations and enjoy things for what they are, it's healthier for you than being filled with rage over a video game.
@@Code_6_BelugaFun Fact: The Original 4 maps, Primis Crew, and animations were either MP or Campaign. Our crew that everyone loves to death is just reused assets from other parts. This mode has always had some asset flips, but Liberty Falls might have a small area from MP, but most of the damn map is based off of a real-life location, just like Kino, Mob, Blood, and DE. Terminus is original, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t have MP assets. Every single map does, whether you like it or not (we clearly know the answer). So take a breath and chill out. YOU, have not played the game yet. THEY, have played the game and given it almost unanimous praise for being back to what we all wanted. This complaining before we even get to all play it is insane. You can’t say, “This map is shit and is all MP assets” when the game just finally had its full reveal. If the game comes out and the map is shit, OK, but we don’t have the game yet so wait. The game could look even better than it does when it comes out. Want proof? Look at any of the older betas for CODs, they look much worse than the full game. So take a breath, and chill the fuck out about something that isn’t even out yet.
@@shaun_the_sheip2775fortunately this is an unpopular opinion. The when we are paying someone are hard earned money we should always have the best quality product possible. Terminus better be insane or this game is cooked.
A lot of these points are valid but this whole video comes off as angry yelling rather than constructive criticism.
I do hope that what happens is the Easter egg starts making cool shit happen around the map, so that it starts bland like this, but then it becomes better over the course of the quest
To be fair, i did title this as a rant and not a breakdown. Im not gonna bullshit and call it something else, cause thats clickbaiting the veiwer. Btw if you wanna see real criticism check out my other bo6 video. It will be much better i promise
people said that about soe and know its looked at as the one of the best maps
Im honestly so confused what? Soe was never called easy, bland, or boring. I do remember that people were saying it was bad because they keep dying or was too confusing. This is none of that
Am I crazy for thinking the health pool seems really high for how little damage the zombies do? Like, other than the infinitely scaling zombies, I feel like we just need significantly more and making them much faster to match how much faster the players are.
what really get me is that thay are sitting there bragging it took them 4 years to make.. and I'm like nahhh you mean it took you 4 years to reskin😂. and the part where you said the zombies was just walking at 30+ I'm soo glad you said that cause I thought it was me 🤣🤣. but your right anyone thinking this is good it's not at all it's just a reskin... 4 years for a reskin 🙄
Dude got hit by 4 zombies and was still above half health??? Also running with your gun to the side is pretty weird, press triangle to put on armor plates😭 how did they make it worse than Cold War with the armor
we all knew zombies was dead
They will never good back to bo3 engine because it has to be able to work with warzone 🤦♂️
LF looks like town/kino/cod ghost map map
Not trying to glaze or anything, but Tio did say it’s supposed to be for casuals. I mean, I guess it’s a little bit too easy, bro.
Last COD I played was BO3, Haven't touched it since, same old recycled trash every single time they release a new game. So sad to see the downfall of a great franchise over the years.
This map feels like such a cheap add on you can tell.
The liberty falls cinematic trailer hyped the shi out of me but watching the stream yesterday made me like what the fuck is this shit
In my opinion zombies started to turn to shit because of the engine. All this extra movement shit just makes me feel like I’m playing multiplayer or some other crap. I would literally die for another bo3 style map and gameplay. Zombies shouldn’t be a side project with multiplayer it should be a totally separate project that comes with multiplayer
I dont care that the game looks not like zombies I just care if its fun not including ui it looks fine a bit easy tho
i just want more condensed maps like five
You're looking waaayyy to deep into this imo. Usually when treyarch release two maps the goal for them to be different gameplay wise. Liberty falls just seems like a highround map and also just a way to introduce new mechanics into the game. I'd chill out rn. Wait till the game is out
You must have started playing zombies during Cold War lmao
@foolhardy8426 no lol i've been playing zombies since b01. That's literally the formula they used for b03. Shadows of evil has all those easter eggs and side easter eggs and the giant only has zombies to kill. Liberty falls is meant to play different.
@@taji7974 Nah Yeah, you definitely started playing zombies since Cold War.
@eliase.3672 ok when have the first 2 release maps played the same
MWZ is actually better than BO6 zombies. The is ridiculous!!
Why can't nobody be happy ever
Im asking you to please look at my discussion video should be my last vid. I honestly like the gameplay, but this map isnt it
Want can't they make better games. Ask that question instead
@@The-Drinkmk2they probably gonna stick to this style so might as well keep playing the old games if you prefer that style
Activision is driving these terrible features that everyone hates, guaranteed. They want to try and attract a casual player to make more money and they don’t care about their player base (see: 2 weeks ago when they scammed thousands of people by shutting down H2M after putting the game on sale.) Even though terminus looks good, the base gameplay mechanics are still terrible. COD is dead.
I think zombies fell of when zombies started to have healyt bars. Lol. Tf.
It looks sick! Idk what y’all sooking about
Like i said gameplay looks good (see my pinned comment), map looks ass imo. But hey if you like it more power to you, im glad people aren't sheep and have their own opinions!
@@Code_6_Beluga As someone who identifies as a sheep, BA-A-AH
Most of the map looks like a 13 year old made it over the weekend on bo3 creator tools. Looks like MP map. Alleys empty and long streets. Starting area is outbreak
Armour zombies armour for yourself salvage different tier weapons it’s all 🐕 💩 and it’s nothing close to what the community wanted its going to be ass just like you said rip zombies haven’t played anything new since bo3
Other than the map looking like hot garbage and warzone. My real point of contention with how they made the game is how uninspired and soulless it is. Like the announcer is the same as MW3 zombies, HUD elements from vanguard, ect. I can go on about this, just wish it had more of the ambience and horror from the older games but seems not :/
Cold war has a better HUD
Yeah ion really like liberty falls either but terminus island im absolutely gone spend a lot of my time
Bro is already hating when it hasn't come out yet. Come on, man, give it two months, and your problem with it will be fixed. Watch treyarch will not let us down
Watch my bo6 discussion im still excited for Terminus, that map looks fucking amazing
round 1000= revelations round 50 lmao
Ya know I think there is an underground portion to this map
And let's hope they fix the fucking bland ass atmosphere
Can we also mention the fact that you only get points per kill, why they changed it to that idk but proper ass cheeks change for no reason.
Strong 2? Bro this is a NOT GOOD/10
Naw man we have to save that for the vanguard type shit. At least this has a EE that could improve the map, but until then strong 2
Bro is talking about this like Treyarch personally came up to his house and told him it would feel exactly like bo3. Dude, it's a beta build 2 months early that the creators had like a couple hours at most to play. The streams are probably worse because there's hundreds of people all running their own streams in the same building. They probably made the gameplay easier so everyone wouldn't get instantly railed trying to just show off the bare minimum of gameplay, also because most people playing were multiplayer creators who hadn't played zombies in years. Criticism is one of the most important things for media and I believe it always has its place, but most of these issues can just get solved with basic common sense. Subjectivity is also a factor of course but shitting on something with only half the features the full game will have immediately really doesn't help anything
So a few things, besides the EE and augments what if anything is missing here. Im also still extremely excited for Terminus it looks badass. As for the build and difficulty, all the people invited play cod/video games for a living i dont think zombies would hard to manage for them. Also ngl from beta to launch, cod never really changes much of anything besides gun balancing. Trust me btw im not looking for a BO3, im looking for next big zombies. With Terminus i can see it, but with what i've seen of liberty Falls so far. I fear its going to be like CWR and fall off of a cliff in the first two months.
I said this is gon be mw2 2022 all over again people are so hyped then when the game came out worst cod ever.
lol
Zombies looks trash ASF. GIVE US BO2 AND BO3 ZOMBIES BACK.
Lowkey just play BO2 and BO3 then
@@MrScare_ what do you think we are doing einstein?
@@MrScare_ I still do, but those games don't have the same life as the newest call of duty, which they should. Hence why you should make the new CoDs like those, so its a great game thats also current and everyone is playing it.
@@kei1880 If every game is like BO2/BO3, then it isn't it's own game. Similar to how MWIII was so close to MWII, everybody was calling it a glorified dlc. If they were to make a game that was like BO2 and BO3 then the same has to be said. A game without change isn't a game, it's just a re-hash.
This looks like shit. I don’t care if this is “the casual/survival map.” It looks so unpolished and un-zombies compared to bo3/4. I’ll just keep replaying the old games, thanks
why does the ray gun reload look so fucking bas
bad* my b typing is hard sometimes
Its the same with black ops 4 its a fun game if you aint calling it call of duty black ops zombies
So call bo4 zombies
BLOPS THE GAME
And its good
Same for this game give the Zombie mode another name and it can be fun or you compare it to bo 1 or bo 2 and get frustrated
Idk why you hate so much on the first day bro, you have only seen partial to the map to make crazy hate
They said they made this map for the casuals and that’s why it’s so easy and boring
I understand that, but why not copy the footsteps of IX, Town, or The Giant. I did want an easy and noob friendly map, but that still doesnt change how zombies are doing a light jog in the 30s.
@@Code_6_Beluga because they want to meet a half way between making money (by appealing to casuals) and supporting the fan base hence the 2 completely different maps, all new maps are also going to be like terminus instead of this one.
I've got a billion things i could say so i'll just say this - seems like they fucked it lol. Shit still looks like a multiplayer game + recycled content + 300gb + online only = not getting it. If they do good on the dlc i'd consider it for like half off but even then🤷
Whole game looks like 💩 f*** Activision play H2M for MP and BO3 custom zombies boycot this game at all cost
Haven't touched mp since Black Ops 4 i believe. Stuck with zombies, cause even now with Terminus it will be better imo. Also yes FUCK ACTVISION
God even the ray gun looks like shit