Dw the only good models they had were up to the original predator case. And even then thats where the whole airflow problem came in. Before that the cheiftec cases they used were probably really good anyways.
Dell really ruined the Alienware brand after the acquisition they went from well built with good quality and highly engineered devices to low cost, low quality and it kinda works devices.
Dell could be the number one choice of pre-built gaming PC's if they made it right from the beginning. Dell with all resources and knowledge it's mindboggling.
Same ive had my Aurora ALX chassis like 10 years old+ only thing ive upgraded on mine was gpu ram and ssd it is a pain to clean and in traditional Alienware fashion looks out weigh cooling performance when it comes to case design
true so true Dell is like Alienware must get smaller and smaller specially on the coolers when an over clocker is like I need a 240 mm rad Dell is like a 120mm is fine for overclocking
Jimmy Good buy dude.. I feel the same way about Alienware 🤦🏻🤦🏻I’d spend $75 and get the white tower, Tempered Glass tower on new egg and put that stuff in and you got a easy $800 to $1000 for a used PC 👍 especially with the water cooling and the tower I’m talking about comes with 4 RGB Fans 120mm has a nice spot for all that stuff and for the Rad 👍 nice fine bro
Guilty as charged here. 😒 I got an Aurora r11 with a 3080 GPU and i7 10700 processor. No need for a heater in my office with this little furnace. Once the warranty is done, I'm thinking of upgrading my cooling with a CPU liquid cooler.
quick question: does the suckiness of alienware products also apply to their laptops? in my country they're branded as the best, i don't know if their cooling solutions are good.
They do like to die though. It pulls way to much power it kills itself and it runs way to hot. I have a dead r9 290 tri x. Makes sense, high current cores usually die faster.
Yet Alienware lives on, showing how truly strong it is. To continue to live with AIDS? Lol are you kidding me? Not many things tougher than that mate. That’s truly a compliment. I mean look at magic Johnson, incredible. Now that’s great marketing for Alienware.
I just imagine, you are playing at night, and your mom comes in to check if you are sleeping, you shut off your monitor and think everything will be alright, then the pc starts revving up like an a-10 warthog and loud errors start blaring that the computer is overheating, and you get caught.
@@nathanhamman418 I've been in pc service since 1991, and I don't remember them having any case issues when they first came out. I mean, they used those Chieftec cases and they were pretty decent. Even the 2004 Alx had decent airflow. Case modders loved them. I do remember the first DELL version I got in, You could tell immediately who made it when you opened it up. Very different construction.
I'm still rocking my 6 year old R5 with the GTX 1080 and it's quiet as a mouse and hasn't crashed once (I've even OCd mine too). I would recommend Alienware over many other pre-built anytime of the day.
@@goqwertygo and they are really good. I got mine specifically because of Big Bang Theory and I continue to use my new Alienware to study quantum physics and anti-gravitational pull conflicting with the absorption of anti-matter.
@@goqwertygo ....I was just having a meme mate. All was well until come to find out, you’re here speaking Ill of Alienware....yet you use a Lenovo legion...
@Smashmouth Hockey Thell previous models may have had issues, but every brand has issues. I just got the new Legion 5 2020 model that has many improvements from the previous models. I like the enterprise grade sleeper aesthetic. Simple white backlit keyboard and none of that over glorified RGB battery wasting bullshit. I've always liked Dell tho, loved using my previous daily driver Latitude E6540. Still play around with it using an external GPU Beast dock with an old Titan Black just because it can😂 I did consider Dell/Alienware when I was shopping for a new laptop, but it would have been like an extra $1000 Alienware and GAMER RGB tax to get the same spec 17" 2060 Ryzen7 4800H.
I just had one I sold that I replaced the cpu cooler on. The cooling plate was filled with junk to the point the water wasn't flowing and overheating the CPU. They used a proprietary connector to control it so I cut and soldered a new cooler to the header. Have to love alienware.
This is a known problem with the original cooler, the liquid turns to a gel and clogs the whole thing up. They would last until just out of warranty usually. Many think Dell should have had a recall on the part but of course, they never did.
@@ScottOmatic yea, it wasn't even much better than a stock cooler when new even. The entire computer is a case of over engineering and little real world testing.
Same problem with the Dell Precision workstations, over-engineered, pointless proprietary 1000W watt PSUs, all these random plastic ducts and flaps inside the case that essentially suffocate the case and make the fans run at full-speed because it's so cramped, despite the fact that the ducts are supposed to "efficiently" channel air... Not to mention the fact the cases are huge and built like a tank, weighing about 30-50KG, yet have 80mm fan mounts... what moron designed these things?
I think it's probably a case of the (likely) overpaid designers trying to justify their positions by trying to reinvent the wheel and just ending up making something that performs worse than the bare basics stock design of a normal PC case.
@@sams_salad_service3653 yeah, ill never understand those people that buy apple's new iwathever every year because they think its somewhat a status symbol
I owned 3 R9 290X cards due to a series of RMAs, and since the card was so recent the replacements were all brand new rather than refurbs. Both of the reference cards died within a month. The third one was a free upgrade to a brand new custom card because the last two died so quickly, and that one worked just fine.
1) The ATX standard is unfortunate. This is why desktop computers require exotic cooling (look at a rack server for a better board layout). 2) That having been said, it is ancient and the problems haven't changed in 20+ years and Dell's competition manages to make computers that aren't awful that manage with atx components.
i feel like their reasoning was to keep any airflow moving through the PC so in a way forcing it to go through the components and cooling them, but i don't think that worked out as well as they thought?
Customer: Pay a Premium to get a Premium Product. Alienware: Erm.....No. But at least we ripped you off and you didn't even care until it was too late.
@@kimjongpoontv69 Are you being serious? My Powercolor Red Dragon V2 RX 580 run at high 70s with near 3000 rpms. Sounds like jet and feels like sauna. I water cooled it, because all that noise was unbearable, now it behaves itself at 70s and 800 rpm fan speed.
Have you tried fixing the cases cooling solution as a whole? You could certainly improve things at least a little. Hell, flip the AIO fan to intake, mount it inside the case, and on an elbow blowing at the back of the GPU. It's ghetto af, but I bet it shaves a couple degrees.
Some Alienwares were really good designs, the Aurora, I think is the cheaper version of Area-51 and it's also worse than a lot of Dell XPS higher end offerings (720 series were really good for airflow). Now, it would be a surprise to find out that it's not the same engineers working on Aurora design who also worked on the very decent (in terms of cooling) XPS 720 design.
“I’m running out of content I need a video to put out” “I Got it, I’ll put out a video in 2021 of a system nowhere near up to a current configuration of this specific pre-build company and I’ll use that as my benchmark for the current state of the entire company . This in turn will give me more views and ad revenue and at the same time will include absolutely 0 relevant information regarding the topic at hand limiting backlash and requiring me to spend money to get a current up to spec machine” 69. Nice.
@Mankirat Singh the R12 has no heating issues. The guy is using a fucking R4 and made the mistake of getting amd. This guy's better at eating than he is at reviewing alienware systems.
Dell has screwed me multiple times with defective computers, including a laptop that I bought this summer from them. When I called their support because it was crashing constantly they charged me $120 for tech support, even though it was a defect in the product that THEY SOLD ME! Boy is dell ever a shit company.
So if you were screwed multiple times with dell, why did you buy another one this summer? This Lenovo Legion I just got is Sweet! I considered Dell, I have used a bunch of other Dells. My previous daily laptop I still sometimes use is a Dell Latitude E6540. and all my other Latitudes were bought 2nd had never had any issues with them.
Got one of these cases for $50 and thought I'd build a little custom pc, but it was caked in cigarette tar and taking everything off this case is a nightmare.
I have an Alienware Area-51m R2 with an RTX2080 Super. It has never thermal-throttled, and even flat out the fan noise isn't intrusive. I couldn't be happier with it.
a good method for heatgun repair which worked really good for me is: Leave some thermal paste on the Die to deal with the heat stress and get one of that high heat capable temperature probes from amazon for like 5 bucks with the little lcd screen, put the probe in the thermal compunt on the die and cover it with thermal paste to get a near to good reading of the temp. Then start slowly heating up the entire board , than go to the Die, circling the heatgun around it until it reaches about 230°C. Than stop, put some aluminium foil over it to let it cool down slowly and leave it for about 15
Man I had one of the last pre-dell Alienware Auroras. They actually used to be really nice they'd give you a custom car-quality paint job and before rgb they lit the system up in whatever color you ordered, then overclock it before sending it to you. The ventilation was way better, each side had ribbed alien "gills" that would take in plenty of fresh air in a smart manner. The side panels came off with the lift of a lever and they had custom 12v contacts on the inside so all the power running to the light and fans in the panel didn't have to be disconnected whenever you took it off. Cooling on that system was really well thought out they didn't use the stock heatsink instead opting for a huge passive one (no fan, no jet engine sound). I wouldn't be surprised to find out they had those custom made for their computers too. Dell really ruined that company.
I've had this PC (R2) for 13 years. All I've done is change out the video card 5 times. i7 920 with original liquid cooling and all original fans still running on a daily basis. It's been beyond reliable.
Ah yes blower GPU's, my Vega 64 needed a lot of work it was so loud and hot. But after undervolting and setting a decent fan curve it's a pretty awesome GPU.
Shit, well, as I'm sitting here watching this on my Alienware R7 1080ti 32 gb 8700k water cooled rig. I'm like holy shit batman. Well they did have a hell of a gig going with the look, was a great concept. I love the old Alienware cases. It used to be fun watching guys like you bringing them back up to modern stuff. But now everything is out of stock and so expensive. You have to admit, those old Alienware cases were something cool back in the day.
yeah, those reference 290's are diying like crazy. When I acquired my 290X reference ack in 2013, I put an Gelid Icy Vision cooler on it and the card ran at 72 C winter/ 82-83 C in summer (during 35C ambient hot summer day), and the card always ran at 1000MHz without throttleing and I was happy. Only downside of it was that it uses 3-Pin fans, and 290x uses 4-pin PWM fan control, so Gelid fans were running @100%, so I used Scythe KazeMaster to control the 290X (with Gelid Icy vision) fan speed.
Years ago a friend of mine was going to get his first pc, I told him that I would help him find a good one. He then went on to over pay on an alienware laptop without consulting me. It did not perform well for long.
AMD was pretty evil with this card. Whenever a company says 'the temperature is fine', it means it will probably die AFTER the 2 years warranty passed..
honestly, when I got my alienware, it would not turn on every time I try to turn it on, and I would struggle to turn it on every single time. Then I just got a new gaming laptop from another company, I agree with this…
I have a Alienware Aurora R1 that I've had literally since launch in 2009. It was over $3000 at the time of purchase with a x2 1tb HDDs, i7 920, 24gb ram on 6 lanes (4x6), and x2 GT 730s (I think). Anywho, I retired her in about 2015 - 2016 but I have a weird relationship with my computers where I refuse to let them sit in a closet or collect dust.. So I turned her into a NAS using Unraid. And honestly, back in 2015 - 2016 this thing felt YEARS ahead of anything else on the market at the avg consumer level for a homer server. I ended up replacing the i7 920 for a i7 990x, replacing the ram with some higher clocked.. fancier looking stuff, and also added a huge dual 5.25 bay fan that houses 3 additional HDDs in 2 of the front bays (This thing moves HUGE amounts of air through 2 of the front bays). I then stuffed it with x6 4TB IronWolf Pro's and x1 2.5 SSD for cache and it literally ran for MONTHS at a time with absolutely 0 errors. I had alot of family in my household back then and was hosting a media server and all kinds of different apps from this this thing with multiple people connected, file sharing, swapping stuff around all at once and NEVER exceeded temps. Although, the lower 4 HDDS in front of the PSU would run hotter than the ones in the 5.25 drive bays (obviously because of the huge ass bay fan), they never exceeded temps of about 47C. Nothing in this unit ever exceeded a temp of 47C (The drive bay HDDs in front of the bay fan were ALWAYS under 34C). The 5.25 dual drive bay fan HDD converter thing was a life saver IMO for longevity, but even before running this Aurora R1 as a NAS and adding the bay fan.. playing WoW back in 2009 on this thing was an ABSOLUTE EXPERIENCE. Still never exceeded temps of about 175F-ish playing WoW on max settings on two 730 GT GPUs. I've since upgraded my storage again (thanks isos) to x3 22TB ironWolf Pros and x1 8TB IronWolf Pro for Vms. Still running the x1 2tb ssd cache. Also upgraded the GPU to my old 1650 Super to allow for better 4k transcoding within JellyFin. I have literally been running this things balls off since 2009 with no remorse and it's never gave me a single issue that wasn't something I caused in the first place. As far as overheating is concerned, I don't think these things as a whole overheated much at all. I think in the end it was all down to what kind of CPU and GPU you stuffed inside the rig. And lets be honest 2009 - 2014 was just a weird era for GPUs. Alienware Computers are most definitely overpriced (Thanks Dell), but I think most people just hate on them because "Oh I can build a better rig myself for cheaper". You're just buying the brand. Just like with a Corvette, Mercedes, or Ferrari. You are paying for the brand. And lets be real.. these early generation Alienware Computers are modern art masterpieces. lol. Anyways, Awesome video brother! I too have never had the heat gun trick work for me, so I'm stoked you were able to revive that old GPU! Sorry for making this a book. -Baylough Technologies
I like how every video that does a review over the old machines says they’re bad, but every channel that review that does a new machine has almost no complaints lol
I've had a bad taste for Alienware since Dell bought them. Had a friend that bought one and it kept restarting, but not because of temp issues, I eventually tracked it down to an extra motherboard standoff where there was no hole for a screw. He's lucky that short didn't cause damage to the system.
I recently got an Area 51 R2 with a 5820k and a reference EVGA blower 1070 for $450. It doesn’t have thermal problems, but there are so many things that make me question my life decision... Fun fact: the 3 stock fans, 2 front intake and 1 on the AIO, are 1.54A delta fans
Hahaha I literally clicked on this because of the thumbnail pic. I bought an Aurora R3 back in 2010! Got it for $999 as my first pc and no knowledge. I ran this base computer (well) as my main gamer until literally the beginning of this year (Jan, 2021) when it finally was just too old to really be useful anymore for realistic modern gaming. It's original spec was with a 3600k, GTX 450 (ha!), 650 watt psu, and like 8 gigs of very slow ddr3. At its end of ownership all I had upgraded was graphics cards and ram over the years ending with 16 gigs (maxed) of used Gskill ddr3 ripjaws, a GTX 1070, and all the ssd's it would let me use. Oh, I also removed all those plastic swing covers as well as the crazy loud hard drive fan which actually somehow lowered temps. I was actually sad to see it go (cough, for $600) because I apparently managed to get away with running this heat coffin just fine for literally over a decade with no major issues and it still did 1080p gaming no problem. I'm not necessarily saying this to defend Dell but rather to say I guess I beat the odds and only upgraded because I was able to get my hands on a 3080 gaming system or else I'dve just kept waiting. P.S. The guy that bought it is still using it, it hasn't died yet, and surprisingly doesn't regret the purchase haha.
Alienware used to build custom PCs.. now they are just rebranded Dell PCs, with the same proprietary dell hardware with flappy parts that swing out for no reason, silly airducts that collect more dust than an air filter, plus an incompatible case that you can't repurpose for another PC build.
Everytime I find a Alienware at the recycling center I expect it's going to be a monster, I always end up selling the case and ditching the motherboard, alien motherboard are always so bad it's almost unbelievable they sell those at the price they asking for.
Having a used a 390 crossfire config for a good year can confirm hot ass cards. They only really work well with a triple fan aib cooler like the xfx or sapphire cards.
I had an r9 290 reference for many years. My cat used to like to sleep on top my computer because it's warm up there. I used to turn the fan to 100% to scare the shit out of her for a lark. These things were so loud. I also HAD to run my card at 60% because I don't really care what AMD said, there was no way in hell it was good for the card to be running at 94c at all times during a game. Seriously, that's what the default fan curve would do for just about anything demanding.
Absolutely, a would pick an alienware case everytime and mod it a little for better airflow instead of picking todays boring tempered glass box cases that all look the same, this case only needs better fans and a better graphics card, and timmy knows it, thats why he bought it
I had that model and it was definitely loud. I now use and actually really love my Alienware R10. When you buy the higher end models and not the value models you get upgraded cooling and more options for cooling upgrades. If you buy the cheapest Lexus, you're going to get a Toyota. This isn't a brand for people on a budget. An Alienware logo on a $1200 build just shows you wanted the logo more than you had sense. People don't buy Prada when they need sneakers because they're looking for value. If Prada made a $200 pair, it would be a red flag that that's not the pair you want from that brand.
Yes the desktops suck but the laptops are kind of good, thick and protective but sleek-looking chassis, not super over priced. You get what you pay for type of system
I have 5 Auroras from 2007 to just last year. They've been flawless. Try harder. Every manufacturer from Mercedes, to Dell, to Frigidaire have failures. Cherry pick more dork.
I love this video, I am a big Alienware fan and have had many models ( I only buy them used ) I had a Alienware x51, Area 51 R2 and the Aurora R4 in this video. I have long sold the Area 51 and x51 but the r4 I gave to my Aunt for her designer classes, she was using a basic laptop and needed a system to run Autocad 2016 and some housing development software. My R4 has almost all the same hardware as yours i7 4820k ( Not the 4930k ) 16GB of Ram a AMD R9 290, One thing I had that your system doesn't have is the active venting system. BUT SURE ENOUGH yup the R9 290 needed to replaced same artifacting issues. NOW when I handed mine down it was about 2 years ago and the market wasn't booboo like todays GPU market. I was able to find a Dell OEM Nvidia GTX 2013 Titan for like 100$ and its been running in the system without issues. It runs the Dell OEM drivers and firmware witch I was really happy about. Also a major change I made with the system was I ditched the questionable Water cooler and replaced it with a Dell Precision air cooler. Over all getting a old Alienware is like getting a old Bentley. Big, Flashy, uses abunch of resources without the performance, and coasts as much money to keep running as it did to buy.
My rule of thumb is any Desktop PC that uses proprietary hardware (like the motherboard or PSU) is garbage to be avoided at all cost. Even if it's well designed, if something goes wrong (and with electronics it's more like when) or if you want to upgrade, you either go through the company or you've got yourself a fancy looking paperweight. Desktop PCs with off the shelf components can be worked with fairly easily, even if they're cheap off the shelf components.
Literally every complaint made was about a dated case that has been re-designed a handful of times since the release of that pc. Why not review a modern computer instead? The A12 has a front panel designed for better air flow, multiple grated holes near fan mounting points, and a dual fan (non-blower type) graphics card. Seems reasonably priced depending on what model you opt for as well.
I think I should have mentioned that Alienware was a real boutique computer company before Dell bought them and then destroyed them. It can take a while for a prestigious brand to fall.
I bought a bricked Area 51 Xlr for $20. Rebuilt it with intel parts and an asus rog 1070, loaded it with a bunch of fans. drilled holes. Sold it on the marketplace for $900 2 years ago. Guy says it still runs great.
Honestly, I wasted SO MUCH TIME dealing with Alienware computer,s! All the crashes, hard-drive issues, blue screens, etc. With every Alien-ware computer I ever bought. Finally decided enough of this shit, and went to PCLapTop and got a customized computer with a LIFELONG warranty, parts too! No more of this pay for help with their crap computer service. I can proudly say in 5 years I have only had 2 minor issues with PClaptop computers, with Alienware it was MONTHLY and ongoing issues, even chipset issues, having to fight with them to fix anything. Calling Costa Rica all the time and only occasionally got the help needed. If you like headaches buy their computers, if not get yours from PCLaptop.
I got 2 Alienware Auroras (an R1 and an R3) from a recycling facility and was excited to refurbish them until I realized what an *_absolute nightmare_* they are to clean and fix: - They collect dust / fuzz and it is nearly impossible to get all of it out. - Their bios and proprietary software is as stable as a drunk man doing a handstand on a tightrope. - Customer support for these is basically non-existent, so if you have an issue then may God help you, because *Dell certainly won't.* - Replacement parts are overpriced as hell (assuming you can even find them). - They are built solely around aesthetics, with functionality being a very late afterthought. _I paid $50 for each of them, and I still felt like I was getting ripped off. I ended up selling them for $200 and $250 on Craigslist, but I honestly don't know if I'd want to mess with these again._
My number one rule when buying any computer is never used if the original owner don't want it there must be something wrong with it a computer that is taken care of should last 10 years or more. For a bonus when i get a new computer its like a blank slate so in theory I am the only to blame for any viruses on it installing viruses is easy, but removing viruses can impossible.
Drill holes into the bottom of the case and remove the harddrive bays, put in some fans and see how the temperature is looking. It really like to see some alienware case modding etc.
I still have and use an R9 290x and could not be happier. It even ran overclocked for quite some time, I really wasn't too kind to it. Granted, nowadays it uses too much power for what it does, but man can it still run!
Hey hey hey.... I paid $2000 for this portable heating device I call a laptop. It keeps my bedroom super hot on the coldest nights. Dell tech support said a 100*C for your cpu is within manufacturers specs.
Alienware is Dell. That's the problem. Alienware was once a great brand. They used off the shelf components to build great gaming PC's at or below the price people could build them themselves. I bought several of them back in the Computer Shopper days and several friends bought them as well, they were my default recommendation for desktops gaming rigs just as Gateway was my default business home office machines. Both brands suffered terribly when they were bought.
before watching the video, my immediate thoughts: 1) Because it's Dell's brand, they use low quality cheap components 2) They're overpriced AF 3) They don't understand what Dual Channel memory is 4) They can't design cases that have at minimum workable airflow. 5) Short lifespan of hardware 6) Bloatware?
I've got an R4 - owned it from new. It's still going strong, not my main machine anymore, it lives in the den for web browsing and a bit of office work. Mine is in a similar case but has moving slats all along the top which might have improved the cooling. There was always some fan noise when gaming with it but it was never excessive like yours seems to be. It was a good system in its day, the only negative thing about it is the weight - mine weighs a ton.
I just bought a couple year old Alienware Area 51 R5 for a crazy good price, and other than the fact it's a giant, 200 lb pyramid, I'm happy with it. It's certainly far better than anything I could realistically build right now.
The problem is it's like the current rgb cases with glass fronts. They look good but there's no place for it to physically suck air from the outside in. The only way that it looks like you can get air into the case would be to either have a fan pulling in from the back and having the top fans pull out. Or have the top fans pull air in and keep the rear an exhaust. But you still have the problem of nowhere for air to be pulled in from the front.
@@jimsinnovations2737 That's the problem you have when companies just design things to look good. As for the Dremal and 3D printer, good idea. But if someone is buying this thing as a cheap pc I highly doubt they'd have either of those. Especially the 3D printer. :)
Let's be fair, that's a very old model.
The new ones are much worse.
Man I was about to go off on you lololol so true
lmao
Dw the only good models they had were up to the original predator case. And even then thats where the whole airflow problem came in. Before that the cheiftec cases they used were probably really good anyways.
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You had me in the first half, not gonna lie.
Dell really ruined the Alienware brand after the acquisition they went from well built with good quality and highly engineered devices to low cost, low quality and it kinda works devices.
But they aren't low cost.
@@bobbrock4221 I think he means low cost parts
@@jamesjdm ah I see.
Dell could be the number one choice of pre-built gaming PC's if they made it right from the beginning. Dell with all resources and knowledge it's mindboggling.
I still have the one i bought back when i graduated in 2013. Still works too. Was my first gaming desktop. Still use it today
Lmao but why tho
Same ive had my Aurora ALX chassis like 10 years old+ only thing ive upgraded on mine was gpu ram and ssd it is a pain to clean and in traditional Alienware fashion looks out weigh cooling performance when it comes to case design
Run cyberpunk it'll die
Its so good u luky u have one I don't have a gaming one just a normal one
@Randy Names ya i built my own 11th gen i-7 rtx 3090 should be good for another 10-15 years hopefully
Alienware hasn't been the same since Dell aquired them.
true so true Dell is like Alienware must get smaller and smaller specially on the coolers when an over clocker is like I need a 240 mm rad Dell is like a 120mm is fine for overclocking
Dell = Alienware HELL!! 😈
facts
Remember when Dell made the best, most reliable, best supported computers? Pepridge Farm remembers.
THANK YOU!!! Dell watered them down.
This is where the phrase "sounds like a jet engine" comes from.
Jimmy Good buy dude.. I feel the same way about Alienware 🤦🏻🤦🏻I’d spend $75 and get the white tower, Tempered Glass tower on new egg and put that stuff in and you got a easy $800 to $1000 for a used PC 👍 especially with the water cooling and the tower I’m talking about comes with 4 RGB Fans 120mm has a nice spot for all that stuff and for the Rad 👍 nice fine bro
Sounds about right.
Bro I still have an r9 290x lol at 50% fan speed
I remember when everyone wants a dell or alienware 15 years ago. Now the only ppl who wants them are ppl who don't keep track of tech news.
Replies on the same pc chaise Timmy trashed with an I7 3820, and protests in the poor.
Back in 2005 dell made some boring, but entirely solid computers
Guilty as charged here. 😒 I got an Aurora r11 with a 3080 GPU and i7 10700 processor. No need for a heater in my office with this little furnace. Once the warranty is done, I'm thinking of upgrading my cooling with a CPU liquid cooler.
quick question: does the suckiness of alienware products also apply to their laptops? in my country they're branded as the best, i don't know if their cooling solutions are good.
@@theretrogamers7690 yeah that's what i was asking. thanks!
Sorry about the focus hunting the whole video. Panasonic sure can't make autofocus, I usually manual it but I forgot :(
What you really need to be sorry about is wearing the same shirt for the past 50 videos and not washing it.
@@steelisreal4313I know right, smells like yo mama!!!
"Every single 290x i've own has died"
That sounds like a personal problem.
Somewhere, a 290x has sworn vengeance and it's looking for Timmy Joe for all the murders.
I agree. I had one and still working fine after 6 years.
The AIO on the Fury X is just as unreliable
They do like to die though. It pulls way to much power it kills itself and it runs way to hot. I have a dead r9 290 tri x. Makes sense, high current cores usually die faster.
Many old high end cards just die sooner due to running so long and so hat reduces lifespan of chip a lot. Electronics don't like heat.
When a regular Dell catches AIDS, it becomes an Alienware.
@PCDYYD Polio
@PCDYYD It needs to drink holy water, then it becomes an optiplex.
Yet Alienware lives on, showing how truly strong it is. To continue to live with AIDS? Lol are you kidding me? Not many things tougher than that mate. That’s truly a compliment. I mean look at magic Johnson, incredible. Now that’s great marketing for Alienware.
dell + facehugger = alienware.
@@deadlymarsupial1236 Suffocating and ready to burst.
Never owned one, but I know Alienware has an undying passion for mounting brackets and plastic shell
I just imagine, you are playing at night, and your mom comes in to check if you are sleeping, you shut off your monitor and think everything will be alright, then the pc starts revving up like an a-10 warthog and loud errors start blaring that the computer is overheating, and you get caught.
They were AWESOME..... before DELL.....
Nah they were pretty bad before as well, no airflow from the beginning
No, not really, the design has always been terrible.
@@nathanhamman418 I've been in pc service since 1991, and I don't remember them having any case issues when they first came out. I mean, they used those Chieftec cases and they were pretty decent. Even the 2004 Alx had decent airflow. Case modders loved them. I do remember the first DELL version I got in, You could tell immediately who made it when you opened it up. Very different construction.
Just gut it and put the parts in a case with good air flow
I'm still rocking my 6 year old R5 with the GTX 1080 and it's quiet as a mouse and hasn't crashed once (I've even OCd mine too). I would recommend Alienware over many other pre-built anytime of the day.
I just remember the guys from the big bang theory using alienware and thinking I guess they arent that smart
Product placement sells!
people think if Sheldon has an Alienware, it must mean they're really good😂
@@goqwertygo and they are really good. I got mine specifically because of Big Bang Theory and I continue to use my new Alienware to study quantum physics and anti-gravitational pull conflicting with the absorption of anti-matter.
@@clemfandango3925 fascinating I can do that with my Lenovo Legion👌 without the Aleinware tax😂
@@goqwertygo ....I was just having a meme mate. All was well until come to find out, you’re here speaking Ill of Alienware....yet you use a Lenovo legion...
@Smashmouth Hockey Thell previous models may have had issues, but every brand has issues. I just got the new Legion 5 2020 model that has many improvements from the previous models. I like the enterprise grade sleeper aesthetic. Simple white backlit keyboard and none of that over glorified RGB battery wasting bullshit. I've always liked Dell tho, loved using my previous daily driver Latitude E6540. Still play around with it using an external GPU Beast dock with an old Titan Black just because it can😂
I did consider Dell/Alienware when I was shopping for a new laptop, but it would have been like an extra $1000 Alienware and GAMER RGB tax to get the same spec 17" 2060 Ryzen7 4800H.
I just had one I sold that I replaced the cpu cooler on. The cooling plate was filled with junk to the point the water wasn't flowing and overheating the CPU. They used a proprietary connector to control it so I cut and soldered a new cooler to the header. Have to love alienware.
This is a known problem with the original cooler, the liquid turns to a gel and clogs the whole thing up. They would last until just out of warranty usually. Many think Dell should have had a recall on the part but of course, they never did.
@@ScottOmatic yea, it wasn't even much better than a stock cooler when new even. The entire computer is a case of over engineering and little real world testing.
I think my server rack is quieter than that thing on startup.
Same problem with the Dell Precision workstations, over-engineered, pointless proprietary 1000W watt PSUs, all these random plastic ducts and flaps inside the case that essentially suffocate the case and make the fans run at full-speed because it's so cramped, despite the fact that the ducts are supposed to "efficiently" channel air...
Not to mention the fact the cases are huge and built like a tank, weighing about 30-50KG, yet have 80mm fan mounts... what moron designed these things?
I think it's probably a case of the (likely) overpaid designers trying to justify their positions by trying to reinvent the wheel and just ending up making something that performs worse than the bare basics stock design of a normal PC case.
i feel like alienware is like the apple of actual pc hardware, underperforming, overpriced, uses its styling and """""status"""" to excuse its faults
Except Apple makes products that people actually want, despite being overpriced. Alienware is just overpriced and nobody wants it.
@@sams_salad_service3653 yeah, ill never understand those people that buy apple's new iwathever every year because they think its somewhat a status symbol
@@AxisCorpsRep yeah, I hate most of their products.
Pretty happy with my apple phone playa hater
@@ohyabuddy12 their phones aren't bad but they are overpriced as hell, also saying "hater" makes you sound 12.
I owned 3 R9 290X cards due to a series of RMAs, and since the card was so recent the replacements were all brand new rather than refurbs. Both of the reference cards died within a month. The third one was a free upgrade to a brand new custom card because the last two died so quickly, and that one worked just fine.
They had a good laptop once in 2010... So... There's that.
1) The ATX standard is unfortunate. This is why desktop computers require exotic cooling (look at a rack server for a better board layout). 2) That having been said, it is ancient and the problems haven't changed in 20+ years and Dell's competition manages to make computers that aren't awful that manage with atx components.
I had that exact case and it wasn't great...
Ever since Dell took over Alienware they've been going downhill :P
After saying "The End" and leaving I honestly expected you to come back in frame ... with a sledgehammer.
My favorite part is all the random, pointless plastic all over the place.
plastic fantastic
i feel like their reasoning was to keep any airflow moving through the PC so in a way forcing it to go through the components and cooling them, but i don't think that worked out as well as they thought?
Customer: Pay a Premium to get a Premium Product.
Alienware: Erm.....No. But at least we ripped you off and you didn't even care until it was too late.
'Fixing' a dead graphics card that succumbed to excessive levels of heat... with more heat.
I have An alienware aurora pc ( same model ) and this one is still running after more than 9 years. They never failed. This isnt a fair conclusion.
My roommate during college years really "loved" my 290x.
free heating
Space heater.
now you need an rx 6700 lol
@@raven4k998 You being serious? my 6800xt runs no hotter than 65 C with 1500rpm fan curve so 6700 should theoretically be better
@@kimjongpoontv69 Are you being serious? My Powercolor Red Dragon V2 RX 580 run at high 70s with near 3000 rpms. Sounds like jet and feels like sauna. I water cooled it, because all that noise was unbearable, now it behaves itself at 70s and 800 rpm fan speed.
Timmy that's the sound of performance 😂😂😂
Have you tried fixing the cases cooling solution as a whole?
You could certainly improve things at least a little.
Hell, flip the AIO fan to intake, mount it inside the case, and on an elbow blowing at the back of the GPU.
It's ghetto af, but I bet it shaves a couple degrees.
Just get the drill out lol I got lian li coffin from 09 thinking about it.
Only if someone with an actual brain was in charge of designing Alienwares🤔🤔🤔
Aka any other person
@@kennethshen7265 fr lmao
The PC worked properly for 10 years, I would say that the design is adequate.
@@AthosJosue and if you poke a few more holes in the chassis it would be no where near as loud and last double that
Some Alienwares were really good designs, the Aurora, I think is the cheaper version of Area-51 and it's also worse than a lot of Dell XPS higher end offerings (720 series were really good for airflow). Now, it would be a surprise to find out that it's not the same engineers working on Aurora design who also worked on the very decent (in terms of cooling) XPS 720 design.
Just bought a gtx 970
i5-4690k
msi z97
16gb ram
750w psu and an old Corsair case for $200 Canadian
Im still using that msi board but i upgraded the 970 to a 1660 super oc and cpu from i5 4590 to i7 4790.
“I’m running out of content I need a video to put out”
“I Got it, I’ll put out a video in 2021 of a system nowhere near up to a current configuration of this specific pre-build company and I’ll use that as my benchmark for the current state of the entire company . This in turn will give me more views and ad revenue and at the same time will include absolutely 0 relevant information regarding the topic at hand limiting backlash and requiring me to spend money to get a current up to spec machine”
69. Nice.
@Mankirat Singh oh my mistake. I understand now.
@Mankirat Singh the R12 has no heating issues. The guy is using a fucking R4 and made the mistake of getting amd. This guy's better at eating than he is at reviewing alienware systems.
Alienware was an awesome computer, before Dell got a hold of them in March 2006. That is when they went to crap.
just proves that good marketing they had years ago only lasts until word gets around that your product sucks.
Dell has screwed me multiple times with defective computers, including a laptop that I bought this summer from them. When I called their support because it was crashing constantly they charged me $120 for tech support, even though it was a defect in the product that THEY SOLD ME!
Boy is dell ever a shit company.
So if you were screwed multiple times with dell, why did you buy another one this summer?
This Lenovo Legion I just got is Sweet! I considered Dell, I have used a bunch of other Dells. My previous daily laptop I still sometimes use is a Dell Latitude E6540. and all my other Latitudes were bought 2nd had never had any issues with them.
i mean he has a 2009 model and they said it lasts up to 5 years so, basically, his pc was good till 2014
I died when i saw the video of an actual jet taking off 🤣🤣
Still LMAOOOOO!!!! 🤣🤣🤣👍
Got one of these cases for $50 and thought I'd build a little custom pc, but it was caked in cigarette tar and taking everything off this case is a nightmare.
Run the machine with the sides off. :) There is where you will get your airflow. :)
put some christmas lights on it so you still get rgb
I have an Alienware Area-51m R2 with an RTX2080 Super. It has never thermal-throttled, and even flat out the fan noise isn't intrusive. I couldn't be happier with it.
My uncle was rocking that card till I got him a msi rx 580 8gb. That 290 runs hot!
a good method for heatgun repair which worked really good for me is: Leave some thermal paste on the Die to deal with the heat stress and get one of that high heat capable temperature probes from amazon for like 5 bucks with the little lcd screen, put the probe in the thermal compunt on the die and cover it with thermal paste to get a near to good reading of the temp. Then start slowly heating up the entire board , than go to the Die, circling the heatgun around it until it reaches about 230°C. Than stop, put some aluminium foil over it to let it cool down slowly and leave it for about 15
oh fella i feel your pain...
Man I had one of the last pre-dell Alienware Auroras. They actually used to be really nice they'd give you a custom car-quality paint job and before rgb they lit the system up in whatever color you ordered, then overclock it before sending it to you. The ventilation was way better, each side had ribbed alien "gills" that would take in plenty of fresh air in a smart manner. The side panels came off with the lift of a lever and they had custom 12v contacts on the inside so all the power running to the light and fans in the panel didn't have to be disconnected whenever you took it off. Cooling on that system was really well thought out they didn't use the stock heatsink instead opting for a huge passive one (no fan, no jet engine sound). I wouldn't be surprised to find out they had those custom made for their computers too. Dell really ruined that company.
Have to admit it is an amazing case design on the outside! Screams 90’s and 2000’s Tech/badass unnamed henchman and I love it!
I mean I think it looks rather spiffy on my desk.
Even an alien woudlnt want that crap
I've had this PC (R2) for 13 years. All I've done is change out the video card 5 times. i7 920 with original liquid cooling and all original fans still running on a daily basis. It's been beyond reliable.
I don’t know why your calling AlienWARE bad when that design came out 6 years ago.
its no different that the new models
@@SonnyListonStanAccount big difference
@@xaviervalentin1143 th-cam.com/video/8ulhFi5N2hc/w-d-xo.html
@@xaviervalentin1143 they all choke the fans and are all bullshit
@@SonnyListonStanAccount cause it’s a pre built computer dude, you can’t expect it to be awesome
Ah yes blower GPU's, my Vega 64 needed a lot of work it was so loud and hot. But after undervolting and setting a decent fan curve it's a pretty awesome GPU.
That you had to do that to ensure the cards life span is infuriating Imo. I say that while owning an rx 5600xt so no nvidia fanboyism here
@@WineLad Yeah it helps I like to tinker but most don't. It should have worked out of the box. Both my 3080 and 3090 both work without any of that.
you wear that chiplet shirt every time i didn't wanna mention it before
I have one of the Area 51 ALX. With a I7 980x with two HD5970s in crossfire. The thing was a dyson
That computer is siiiick.
I really wouldn't mind the sound I'd buy it off ya Timmy I wear headphones when gaming
When blower cards are maxed out of fans (especially older ones) headphones don't help much
I think you'd need those ear-defenders that they wear on aircraft carriers..... :P
Hope you have a pair of closed-backs.
Shit, well, as I'm sitting here watching this on my Alienware R7 1080ti 32 gb 8700k water cooled rig. I'm like holy shit batman. Well they did have a hell of a gig going with the look, was a great concept. I love the old Alienware cases. It used to be fun watching guys like you bringing them back up to modern stuff. But now everything is out of stock and so expensive. You have to admit, those old Alienware cases were something cool back in the day.
Yeah. It looks very good to this day. Got a similar setup. But I still got my 980 TI going strong
if they didnt sell out to dell they would still be good
yeah, those reference 290's are diying like crazy. When I acquired my 290X reference ack in 2013, I put an Gelid Icy Vision cooler on it and the card ran at 72 C winter/ 82-83 C in summer (during 35C ambient hot summer day), and the card always ran at 1000MHz without throttleing and I was happy. Only downside of it was that it uses 3-Pin fans, and 290x uses 4-pin PWM fan control, so Gelid fans were running @100%, so I used Scythe KazeMaster to control the 290X (with Gelid Icy vision) fan speed.
This thing is a coffin an aluminum coffin! 😂👌
Years ago a friend of mine was going to get his first pc, I told him that I would help him find a good one. He then went on to over pay on an alienware laptop without consulting me. It did not perform well for long.
AMD was pretty evil with this card. Whenever a company says 'the temperature is fine', it means it will probably die AFTER the 2 years warranty passed..
honestly, when I got my alienware, it would not turn on every time I try to turn it on, and I would struggle to turn it on every single time. Then I just got a new gaming laptop from another company, I agree with this…
Exactly that model was my favorit pc in the world i love it even today but never could aford one. But dell pcs are a pain in the ass to work around.
I have a Alienware Aurora R1 that I've had literally since launch in 2009. It was over $3000 at the time of purchase with a x2 1tb HDDs, i7 920, 24gb ram on 6 lanes (4x6), and x2 GT 730s (I think). Anywho, I retired her in about 2015 - 2016 but I have a weird relationship with my computers where I refuse to let them sit in a closet or collect dust.. So I turned her into a NAS using Unraid. And honestly, back in 2015 - 2016 this thing felt YEARS ahead of anything else on the market at the avg consumer level for a homer server. I ended up replacing the i7 920 for a i7 990x, replacing the ram with some higher clocked.. fancier looking stuff, and also added a huge dual 5.25 bay fan that houses 3 additional HDDs in 2 of the front bays (This thing moves HUGE amounts of air through 2 of the front bays). I then stuffed it with x6 4TB IronWolf Pro's and x1 2.5 SSD for cache and it literally ran for MONTHS at a time with absolutely 0 errors. I had alot of family in my household back then and was hosting a media server and all kinds of different apps from this this thing with multiple people connected, file sharing, swapping stuff around all at once and NEVER exceeded temps.
Although, the lower 4 HDDS in front of the PSU would run hotter than the ones in the 5.25 drive bays (obviously because of the huge ass bay fan), they never exceeded temps of about 47C. Nothing in this unit ever exceeded a temp of 47C (The drive bay HDDs in front of the bay fan were ALWAYS under 34C). The 5.25 dual drive bay fan HDD converter thing was a life saver IMO for longevity, but even before running this Aurora R1 as a NAS and adding the bay fan.. playing WoW back in 2009 on this thing was an ABSOLUTE EXPERIENCE. Still never exceeded temps of about 175F-ish playing WoW on max settings on two 730 GT GPUs.
I've since upgraded my storage again (thanks isos) to x3 22TB ironWolf Pros and x1 8TB IronWolf Pro for Vms. Still running the x1 2tb ssd cache. Also upgraded the GPU to my old 1650 Super to allow for better 4k transcoding within JellyFin. I have literally been running this things balls off since 2009 with no remorse and it's never gave me a single issue that wasn't something I caused in the first place. As far as overheating is concerned, I don't think these things as a whole overheated much at all. I think in the end it was all down to what kind of CPU and GPU you stuffed inside the rig. And lets be honest 2009 - 2014 was just a weird era for GPUs. Alienware Computers are most definitely overpriced (Thanks Dell), but I think most people just hate on them because "Oh I can build a better rig myself for cheaper".
You're just buying the brand. Just like with a Corvette, Mercedes, or Ferrari. You are paying for the brand. And lets be real.. these early generation Alienware Computers are modern art masterpieces. lol. Anyways, Awesome video brother! I too have never had the heat gun trick work for me, so I'm stoked you were able to revive that old GPU!
Sorry for making this a book.
-Baylough Technologies
I like how every video that does a review over the old machines says they’re bad, but every channel that review that does a new machine has almost no complaints lol
I've had a bad taste for Alienware since Dell bought them. Had a friend that bought one and it kept restarting, but not because of temp issues, I eventually tracked it down to an extra motherboard standoff where there was no hole for a screw. He's lucky that short didn't cause damage to the system.
"Aluminum coffin" haha I like that
I recently got an Area 51 R2 with a 5820k and a reference EVGA blower 1070 for $450. It doesn’t have thermal problems, but there are so many things that make me question my life decision...
Fun fact: the 3 stock fans, 2 front intake and 1 on the AIO, are 1.54A delta fans
They might now be great pcs. But I love their older cases.
Hahaha I literally clicked on this because of the thumbnail pic.
I bought an Aurora R3 back in 2010! Got it for $999 as my first pc and no knowledge. I ran this base computer (well) as my main gamer until literally the beginning of this year (Jan, 2021) when it finally was just too old to really be useful anymore for realistic modern gaming. It's original spec was with a 3600k, GTX 450 (ha!), 650 watt psu, and like 8 gigs of very slow ddr3.
At its end of ownership all I had upgraded was graphics cards and ram over the years ending with 16 gigs (maxed) of used Gskill ddr3 ripjaws, a GTX 1070, and all the ssd's it would let me use. Oh, I also removed all those plastic swing covers as well as the crazy loud hard drive fan which actually somehow lowered temps.
I was actually sad to see it go (cough, for $600) because I apparently managed to get away with running this heat coffin just fine for literally over a decade with no major issues and it still did 1080p gaming no problem.
I'm not necessarily saying this to defend Dell but rather to say I guess I beat the odds and only upgraded because I was able to get my hands on a 3080 gaming system or else I'dve just kept waiting.
P.S. The guy that bought it is still using it, it hasn't died yet, and surprisingly doesn't regret the purchase haha.
Alienware is just a dell in a fancy shell
to try to trick 9 year olds to buy their shit products
@@kennethshen7265 bingo
Alienware used to build custom PCs.. now they are just rebranded Dell PCs, with the same proprietary dell hardware with flappy parts that swing out for no reason, silly airducts that collect more dust than an air filter, plus an incompatible case that you can't repurpose for another PC build.
i have an alienware...and i love it..i had to upgrade the cooling as air cooling was crazy loud...but i really enjoy it!
Everytime I find a Alienware at the recycling center I expect it's going to be a monster, I always end up selling the case and ditching the motherboard, alien motherboard are always so bad it's almost unbelievable they sell those at the price they asking for.
Having a used a 390 crossfire config for a good year can confirm hot ass cards. They only really work well with a triple fan aib cooler like the xfx or sapphire cards.
I had an r9 290 reference for many years. My cat used to like to sleep on top my computer because it's warm up there. I used to turn the fan to 100% to scare the shit out of her for a lark. These things were so loud. I also HAD to run my card at 60% because I don't really care what AMD said, there was no way in hell it was good for the card to be running at 94c at all times during a game. Seriously, that's what the default fan curve would do for just about anything demanding.
I purchased on FB Market an old blue big Alienware non Dell case for $50. It’s heavy and big. I plan to build an amazing gaming PC with it.
You can't deny the sex appeal of those old alienware cases tho
Absolutely, a would pick an alienware case everytime and mod it a little for better airflow instead of picking todays boring tempered glass box cases that all look the same, this case only needs better fans and a better graphics card, and timmy knows it, thats why he bought it
I just bought and put an RX 6800 in an Aurora R4 Alienware a month ago.
I had that model and it was definitely loud.
I now use and actually really love my Alienware R10. When you buy the higher end models and not the value models you get upgraded cooling and more options for cooling upgrades.
If you buy the cheapest Lexus, you're going to get a Toyota. This isn't a brand for people on a budget. An Alienware logo on a $1200 build just shows you wanted the logo more than you had sense.
People don't buy Prada when they need sneakers because they're looking for value. If Prada made a $200 pair, it would be a red flag that that's not the pair you want from that brand.
Yes the desktops suck but the laptops are kind of good, thick and protective but sleek-looking chassis, not super over priced. You get what you pay for type of system
I used to run 2 R9 290x's in crossfire with an FX 8350 OC at 5 GHZ my computer back then doubled as a space heater
I have 5 Auroras from 2007 to just last year. They've been flawless. Try harder. Every manufacturer from Mercedes, to Dell, to Frigidaire have failures. Cherry pick more dork.
I love this video, I am a big Alienware fan and have had many models ( I only buy them used ) I had a Alienware x51, Area 51 R2 and the Aurora R4 in this video. I have long sold the Area 51 and x51 but the r4 I gave to my Aunt for her designer classes, she was using a basic laptop and needed a system to run Autocad 2016 and some housing development software. My R4 has almost all the same hardware as yours i7 4820k ( Not the 4930k ) 16GB of Ram a AMD R9 290, One thing I had that your system doesn't have is the active venting system. BUT SURE ENOUGH yup the R9 290 needed to replaced same artifacting issues. NOW when I handed mine down it was about 2 years ago and the market wasn't booboo like todays GPU market. I was able to find a Dell OEM Nvidia GTX 2013 Titan for like 100$ and its been running in the system without issues. It runs the Dell OEM drivers and firmware witch I was really happy about.
Also a major change I made with the system was I ditched the questionable Water cooler and replaced it with a Dell Precision air cooler.
Over all getting a old Alienware is like getting a old Bentley.
Big, Flashy, uses abunch of resources without the performance, and coasts as much money to keep running as it did to buy.
My rule of thumb is any Desktop PC that uses proprietary hardware (like the motherboard or PSU) is garbage to be avoided at all cost.
Even if it's well designed, if something goes wrong (and with electronics it's more like when) or if you want to upgrade, you either go through the company or you've got yourself a fancy looking paperweight.
Desktop PCs with off the shelf components can be worked with fairly easily, even if they're cheap off the shelf components.
Literally every complaint made was about a dated case that has been re-designed a handful of times since the release of that pc. Why not review a modern computer instead? The A12 has a front panel designed for better air flow, multiple grated holes near fan mounting points, and a dual fan (non-blower type) graphics card. Seems reasonably priced depending on what model you opt for as well.
I think I should have mentioned that Alienware was a real boutique computer company before Dell bought them and then destroyed them. It can take a while for a prestigious brand to fall.
I bought a bricked Area 51 Xlr for $20. Rebuilt it with intel parts and an asus rog 1070, loaded it with a bunch of fans. drilled holes. Sold it on the marketplace for $900 2 years ago. Guy says it still runs great.
Honestly, I wasted SO MUCH TIME dealing with Alienware computer,s! All the crashes, hard-drive issues, blue screens, etc. With every Alien-ware computer I ever bought. Finally decided enough of this shit, and went to PCLapTop and got a customized computer with a LIFELONG warranty, parts too! No more of this pay for help with their crap computer service. I can proudly say in 5 years I have only had 2 minor issues with PClaptop computers, with Alienware it was MONTHLY and ongoing issues, even chipset issues, having to fight with them to fix anything. Calling Costa Rica all the time and only occasionally got the help needed. If you like headaches buy their computers, if not get yours from PCLaptop.
I got 2 Alienware Auroras (an R1 and an R3) from a recycling facility and was excited to refurbish them until I realized what an *_absolute nightmare_* they are to clean and fix:
- They collect dust / fuzz and it is nearly impossible to get all of it out.
- Their bios and proprietary software is as stable as a drunk man doing a handstand on a tightrope.
- Customer support for these is basically non-existent, so if you have an issue then may God help you, because *Dell certainly won't.*
- Replacement parts are overpriced as hell (assuming you can even find them).
- They are built solely around aesthetics, with functionality being a very late afterthought.
_I paid $50 for each of them, and I still felt like I was getting ripped off. I ended up selling them for $200 and $250 on Craigslist, but I honestly don't know if I'd want to mess with these again._
My number one rule when buying any computer is never used if the original owner don't want it there must be something wrong with it a computer that is taken care of should last 10 years or more. For a bonus when i get a new computer its like a blank slate so in theory I am the only to blame for any viruses on it installing viruses is easy, but removing viruses can impossible.
Drill holes into the bottom of the case and remove the harddrive bays, put in some fans and see how the temperature is looking. It really like to see some alienware case modding etc.
Eww. Why would you do that? The airflow is fine in this case. >_> blegh.
@@akimbofurry2179 lmao
I still have and use an R9 290x and could not be happier.
It even ran overclocked for quite some time, I really wasn't too kind to it.
Granted, nowadays it uses too much power for what it does, but man can it still run!
Hey hey hey.... I paid $2000 for this portable heating device I call a laptop.
It keeps my bedroom super hot on the coldest nights.
Dell tech support said a 100*C for your cpu is within manufacturers specs.
Is it odd that their optiplexes are actually better choices to pick up years later than picking up an Alienware from a similar time period.
People that buy alienware are the same people who rep. supreme stickers, a whole lot of flash for a whole lot of no value and sustenance
Alienware is Dell. That's the problem. Alienware was once a great brand. They used off the shelf components to build great gaming PC's at or below the price people could build them themselves. I bought several of them back in the Computer Shopper days and several friends bought them as well, they were my default recommendation for desktops gaming rigs just as Gateway was my default business home office machines. Both brands suffered terribly when they were bought.
before watching the video, my immediate thoughts:
1) Because it's Dell's brand, they use low quality cheap components
2) They're overpriced AF
3) They don't understand what Dual Channel memory is
4) They can't design cases that have at minimum workable airflow.
5) Short lifespan of hardware
6) Bloatware?
I've got an R4 - owned it from new. It's still going strong, not my main machine anymore, it lives in the den for web browsing and a bit of office work. Mine is in a similar case but has moving slats all along the top which might have improved the cooling. There was always some fan noise when gaming with it but it was never excessive like yours seems to be. It was a good system in its day, the only negative thing about it is the weight - mine weighs a ton.
I just bought a couple year old Alienware Area 51 R5 for a crazy good price, and other than the fact it's a giant, 200 lb pyramid, I'm happy with it. It's certainly far better than anything I could realistically build right now.
why not take out that piece that covers the gpu, and slot in a fan there, or 3d print a fan holder for it, maybe that will work
The problem is it's like the current rgb cases with glass fronts. They look good but there's no place for it to physically suck air from the outside in. The only way that it looks like you can get air into the case would be to either have a fan pulling in from the back and having the top fans pull out. Or have the top fans pull air in and keep the rear an exhaust. But you still have the problem of nowhere for air to be pulled in from the front.
@@Slane583 dermal and a 3d printer problem solved, but I know wat u mean. They were not thought out to well
@@jimsinnovations2737 That's the problem you have when companies just design things to look good. As for the Dremal and 3D printer, good idea. But if someone is buying this thing as a cheap pc I highly doubt they'd have either of those. Especially the 3D printer. :)
@@Slane583 lmao rite
I think I have a spare one hidden in my cabinet.