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Isn't using the water cooling icon false advertising when there is no water cooling? Check the store page and see if there is a claim of 'water cooling' for this PC.
I'd be curious what an $1800 newegg/ABS system would compare to this abomination. Obviously would be a better deal strictly from standardized name-brand parts.
That 5800 is gonna die. Due to my 5600x arriving with a dead core, I got a second hand 5800x instead but used the 5600 heat sink. The 5800 was not happy on it, and almost overheated. Is now running fine on a bigger cooler. So that tiny OEM cooler being smaller than the 5600x *stock* cooler is just asking for the CPU to thermal throttle. :(
i had a nearly identical one come out of a pre-built lenovo from 2010, just a normal office PC i got because i had no money and it was really cheap it wasnt even adequate for that poor thing let alone a gaming rig
I know it's kinda of late, but since becoming a Dell warranty technician I can definitely tell you those instructions are for us to figure out how to take the piece of junk apart
@@stillnotchill2560 Nearly all replaceable parts are refurbished and Dell is cheap enough to force the customers to wait for refurbished parts to be available instead of providing new parts.
@@looncraz had an alienware aurora r4 from like 2011 and the airflow was complete dog even back then, same plastic on metal build but i was a kid so i didnt know better so im assuming thats the buyers theyre still praying on^ OH, and mine had cls that stopped working after like a year so i had to buy a new one...
@@leedlefly Dell's are not, and never have been, worth the air they displace from the room they are in. Even when they bought alienware they didn't suddenly start making or selling anything worth existing, they only destroyed what *used to be* a good brand name.
@VaderxG This isn't blue because of intel. It's an AMD Ryzen build. The board just happens to be blue. Many PCBs are blue or green, they're coated other colors when they're visible just to look better.
say what you want about consoles, but at least you plug them in and they sort of work. it's sad that console manufacturers get away with shittier performance because they have no real competition in the non-tech savy world. imagine if dell used all their global reach and money to put out THE gaming prebuilt instead of crap ewaste.
@@enzito_sdf6978 wdym shittier performance? A PC with the same spec as a console will generally perform worse because consoles are more optimized hardware wise and software wise.
I remember when I was a kid seeing Alienware and thinking it was the coolest pc I’ve ever seen now I just realize that that’s their entire marketing strategy… appeal to children so you can get away with half assing the internals
When I was very young I always thought that Alienware PCs are the best you can get. In hindsight I was very lucky to have built back then my own PC instead of purchasing an overpriced Dell "gaming" one.
I worked for Alienware back in 2004 before the Dell acquisition. I can honestly say that back then the majority of the employees were actual gamers and were really excited to work for the company. If you said you worked for Alienware back then, (in Miami) you were pretty cool. And while they were always extremely expensive I can say that they were built with care and the techs that worked on the computers returned for tech support were VERY intelligent and avid gamers. Its sad to see what the company has become.
I remember going to my dad's friends house and he had a Alienware PC and it looked insane, ever since then I wanted one but when I found out that dell acquired them and basically made downgraded them I decided just to build my own.
Yeah. I remember the og Alienware. While it wasn't my dream PC, I definitely marveled at it when I came across it. Shame how big business always ruin a good thing.
This is literally the Precision 3630 chassis, we have hundreds of them in the office that I support. Fun fact: VRMs at 10:50 are coming *with* a heatsink now and everytime we service one of these towers DELL sends a heatsink to install free of charge.
Hey you think you csn send one for me? Unbelievable that Dell sends any unit they ship without a vrm heatsink. It's worse than planned obsolescence. It's planned failure.
THAT'S where I've seen those chassis! We supply ex-lease IT hw to non-profits, had to replace a few power supplies as they seem to fail ground tests regularly, so I had to make a bunch of adapters for ATX-whateverthehelldell's socket is.
@@lucidnonsense942 What do you mean by ground test? At least it seems like they have their power supplies together now... too bad about the rest of the computer though
Bahahaha fr? Will they not ship knowing it's him? Kinda saying somn because in theory a multi million dollar company should not at all be fearful of a TH-camr and yet they are, almost as if HE would find something an average joe wouldn't
@@eatcum I think it has more to do with him not wanting them to send a better or different unit knowing that he will be reviewing it for a large audience. Either way they are such an atrocious company
@@eatcum No it’s the opposite, if they knew who he was they would likely send a specifically chosen/made version so if he makes a video it will come off positively
I love how prior to getting into building PCs I used to have the impression that these Alienware stuff had to be good cause of their price tag, really goes to show the knowledge disparity between enthusiasts and your typical consumer
Also the pure avarice in the eyes of a Dell executive when they see how much they can get away with charging for this kind of crap. And how little they can spend on actual product "quality".
Back before I got myself more educated on PCs (thanks in part to Gamers Nexus) I bought an Alienware R4 laptop - an expensive machine that I assumed had to be awesome coz it cost so much… Wanted to love it so much, but it was a regretful purchase…
A lot of these pre built websites include an optional professional wiring upgrade or upgraded shipping protection. Which is fucking ridiculous in my eyes. If someone is paying an up charge in parts for you to build a pc you should wire it professionally and neatly regardless. If you’re shipping a computer it should be packed with care regardless.
For the prices they charge you should get wiring done by a Buddist monk at the top of a mountain who only does one computer in his entire life and immediately dies feeling fulfilled.
@@SenatorNorman Recycle centers and donation centers. There's hundreds that 99% of the time end up in landfills and not actually recycled. Just look up near you tech donation or recycle centers. Also asking neighbors helps too.
Love your work Jarrod! I'm not sure about the USA, but the r11/r12 models were getting pretty steep discounts at the peak of the GPU price hike a few months ago, often the systems were selling for less than the GPU they shipped with in Aus. Not long after dell 3080's and empty or gpu mismatched r11's starting popping up all over the usual 2nd hand market sites. Even at that discounted price, I personally still felt ripped off with what I received as someone whose built all my PC's til then.
At $2k for a rig that doesn't even have a heatsink on it's VRM, it is legitimately a scam rig. I'd trust a dodgy PC ad on craiglist more than I would trust Alienware.
I could spend less money, get a Lian Li Lancool II Mesh case and have a superior rig with a case that isn’t trying it’s hardest to strangle it’s own airflow. This has three fans including the cpu cooler… the case I mention, can have 3 front, two top, one back and two inside to help cool the gpu if you really wanted.
@@draketurtle4169 The people who buy these prebuilts are inexperienced people who are not interesed in learning how to build a pc due to lack of interest or confidence or they just dont have the time to build one.
@@davidjohn3710 I suppose that is true, I have an interest in getting a good setup but most importantly one thst is cheap but as reliable as I can get, the people who buy from them see the brand/design first.
@@draketurtle4169 I bought nearly the same thing in the vid but several upgrades on it. Close to $2,500. Stepdad is an IT guy & has been, I can solemnly say that when he opened it up to check it out, it looked nothing like this. Can run any game at 200+ FPS, haven’t really strained it any other way
@@draketurtle4169 damn good case. I am running one of those currently. Can attest to its easy access and we'll formed interior making it easy to work with
I would bet that the chassis literally is garbage. They probably had a pile of ancient computer cases sitting in a warehouse, destined for the dump and some higher-up said "hey, I think we might be able to re-use this. Someone fetch me an engineer--and make sure you put a collar on this one! The last one got away."
There's actually a lot of stories about Intel sabotaging their G5 laptops with rizer cpus through bios updates. These updates gets installed automatically by Windows Updates and significantly slows the computer down and give a lot worst gaming performances.
Not so long ago, I had never built a PC. And to date, I have built exactly one. But the thought of it was intimidating so I started looking at pre-built options. At the time, Micro Center was running a special on an Aurora R10 with a Ryzen 5900X and 3080 ti for $2K and 12 months 0% interest financing. So I went on down to Micro Center to look at one with the intention of buying one. The guy at MC who was helping me seemed like he wanted to say something about my choice, but was understandably biting his tongue, as I am sure that MC has a very financially beneficial relationship with Dell and their staff is probably trained to not bad mouth them. So I made the purchase. To say the experience with how the PC performed was disappointing was an understatement. Any attempt to run games in full-screen mode was met with constant display flickering or just outright going to black for 3-10 seconds before coming back. More frustrating than the performance was the customer service. I basically got run around in a circle for 90 minutes while being disconnected and talking to one indifferent person after another while getting no support on the issue. So I promptly did a factory reset on the machine and took it back to MC. I was frustrated and decided that I was going to watch as many PC build tutorials as possible. I went back a couple of weeks later and had someone help me spec out a similarly equipped unit that included a Ryzen 5900X, EVGA Geforce RTX 3080 Ti, 1 TB NVME SSD, MSI Tomahawk X570s, EVGA 1000W Gold PSU, 32GB of Corsair RAM, Corsair H150i AIO, and a Lian Li Lancool II Mesh to house it all. It ended up costing me $200 more for a VASTLY superior PC that also looks amazing and doesn't lock me into buying a whole new PC when that hunk of junk R10 inevitably broke down. To anyone who is looking at pre-built options, just know that I was and to a degree still am a tech idiot. Did I make mistakes and have to redo things here and there during the build? Absolutely! Did I have to keep referencing videos and googling things to get it all done? You bet your ass I did! But I figured it out and took the time to make everything look and run perfect. My point is that it is not as difficult as you think. You can definitely build your own PC and it will mean more to you when you're done. Don't be afraid to step out of your comfort zone. Trust me when I say, if I can build a PC, so can you. I sincerely appreciate channels like Gamers Nexus and other quality content creators in the tech space who educate everyday Joe's like me to help us learn what to buy and what to stay away from and also put out quality content to help people get through their first build and have a quality working PC.
did you reuse any of the components from the dell pc in the diy build? im sure the cpu and ram could be reused but i don't know. the way to go is to factory reset the windows install as soon as you get a prebuilt to get rid of the shit
@@spacewoag4572 I did not. I returned the entire system after realizing it was a dud and that Dell's customer service was absolute trash. My current system was built from scratch with off the shelf components.
I've been building my own since like 2008 or something. Every four or five years. It's always a mess though, I suck at cable management and I insist on making SFX builds. Getting a 3080 and a liquid AIO in an SFX case was... Interesting. Cables look a damb mess. Don't even care, it's got decent thermals and runs.
@@deveneleven400 I'm not the original commenter, but I used LTT's first-person PC build guide when building my first PC. They've come out with a longer guide that goes over component selections, but I don't remember if that included a guide on how to build the computer.
Totally agree! My whole family has been Mac, but I paid for the parts and built my own pc after months of researching and obsessing. Just so people know how little intelligence you need to build a pc, the first time I tried to turn it on (before I put it in the case) it didn't do anything. The lights on the cpu fan turned on, along with the power supply fan, but the cpu fan didn't turn on (and the heatsink didn't even get warm. Turns out after quite a bit of troubleshooting I didn't plug in an extra cable into the *power supply*. I had put the cpu power cable into the motherboard, but I hadn't put *all* of the cpu connectors into the power supply (I have a modular power supply). Since then, it has worked fine ever since.
@@andyk192 PRETTY bad? I received my Alienware just after the takeover and had to send it back for repair three times in the FIRST YEAR ALONE. I freely admit that makes me bitter and biased against them, but they do make some frankly repulsive costcutting choices under the Alienware brand.
@TH-cam is highkey garbage If you are talking about Alienware Area 51M, don't you dare talk shit about it. It's one of the best system ever made, a true desktop replacement. Replaceable parts, runs very cool, it's a godlike desktop replacement. It isn't so much a laptop, thing is fucking massive. But it's basically a PC with screen attached that can be moved from location to location easier. Sadly, everything else Alienware makes are utter garbage and they stopped making Area 51M and tried to pursue thinness like monkeys.
In an effort to make it look "cool" they completely destroyed any chance of airflow. These things are like Bic lighters, use them until they wont work and throw them away.
I remember when Alienware was a small company that was going well beyond what everyone else was doing, putting 1T HDs in a system when companies like Dell were stuck at 500G and placing water coolers in their system. I miss the old Alienware.
It would be amusing to see him review a Dell workstation and be absolutely shocked the quality difference between their business/enterprise products and consumer products.
LOL. And they require a 1000watt PSU. It's obvious why, because a PSU producing any more heat would cause the CPU to possibly go into thermal shutdown so they need a PSU that will have a low power demand-to-overhead.
@@krozareq OMG didn't think about that, that makes sense. Even Dell knows this is a garbage system so it only makes sense to put a PSU that is functionally idle at all times. Scumbags
I used to work for Dell, in XPS support between late 2006 and mid-2008, I'm not sure if I'm amused or horrified that Dell is still using the business model of "We sell garbage to morons."
They can, when the VRM explodes and takes your data with it. Not even a heatsink next to a 100 C generating CPU sinking mostly into the copper on the mainboard.
What do you mean by “sane”? Everyone is already sue happy so they could if they wanted. On what grounds? I’m sure they could argue, you got exactly what they advertised to you. Btw - I can’t stand Dell machines. They’ve screwed me over more than once, and our business decided to switch from Lenovo to Dell 3-4 years ago and we’ve had more DoA machines than I care to count. So not fanboying, just making a point.
Still have my wifes Alienware from 2003, pre-Dell. They were pretty slick back then. As soon as Dell bought them I knew it was over. I build now, much better option.
@@criostasis I get what you're saying but Dell is out $100 million where as I doubt they'd pay any single user $100 million. I'd rather say fuck you to Dell tbh.
Just wow. I always thought of Alienware stuff as just being overpriced and not worth your money, but I never realized just the amount of corners that Dell attempts to cut and the amount of things that they cheap out in with their PCs. To cut as many corners and cheap out in as many things as they did in an 1800 dollar pc is just unacceptable and embarrassing. What a lousy job.
And some peps out there feeling and acting cool cause they spent an ass full of cash for that crap. Really that makes me more sad than its entertaining
I used to work at their call center in Costa Rica, ever since they were bought by Dell the quality of the technical service and the build fell dramatically. We used to do liquid cooling when it was not a thing, we did research and development and tested all parts, we had a lab to test them, if a user had compatibility issues we could immediately find all the parts for testing and when there was hardware issues we could claim it to the vendor. Then we got fired one by one and were replaced by cheaper and very inexperienced techs.
@@Spightfull I could be wrong but I couldnt find any reviews of the R16, the newest one was the R15. I have no intention of ever buying one, but I WAS curious if they had fixed the case issues or not.
@@Spightfull omg never mind I found it, was included in another video. Seems like although it wasnt perfect, it was at least improved. I like it when we as a group (pc enjoyers) can actually make an impact on these big corps.
Its so sad. When I was a teeny tot, Alienware was the "omg you got one of those, you parents must be rich" now its the "Dude you got a dell?" - with a horrified face instead of excited....
@@LiLBitsDK They might have been "sweet" viewed through adolescent eyes back in the 90s/00s. But we're all a bit older and wiser now. Well, most of us are ...
Back then I kept saying they were shit. They never were good, but alas impressionable people as per usual will get a hard on over something that looks nice; and thus the Alienware craze.
Ironically, Dell was a company that pushed the plastic air tunnel hooked to the cpu cooler pushing hot air out the pc. Ideal for this situation...so, where is it?
dude if you have good thermals than you can't learn to rely on their support services and get the opportunity to buy a new system when this one wears out. They just want the best for you, after all..... dude. You got a dell.
Man, have you seen Dell's machines from the 1990s? Not only were their "custom" hardware solutions absolute garbage already, but finding drivers to them feels like doing Sumerian Sudoku blindfolded.
Dell decides to deliver a P4 machine to me, where yhe tem9 srnsor for the CPU was in yhe path of the CPU fan. Talk about oscillation. The fan went high-speed. Cooled the temp sensor. The fan stopped. The sensor got hot. The fan returned to crazy speed. A full day with the fan switching between slow and fast was no joke... That made me seriously dislike Dell, and I have never stopped.
I have the Aurora R5 and the interior layout is identical to the R10, other than the components. Same hinged PSU, same pop-off side panel, everything. Insane how they've felt the need to change nothing except the plastic shell over the last 5 years.
I used to work for Alienware before Dell acquired them. We used to build the machines on the line. Whenever we read the invoices, we would marvel at how much money people would spend on machines we could build for a fraction of the price. Seems like things have become even worse. Even cheaper.
What year did you work for Alienware. I had a computer built by them in 2007. It was ok and it broke because of cooling problems. Thanks to that computer i learned how to build my own computers and never looked back,
@@ziosrips Alienware is the reason I got into building computers in the first place. After trying to increase my Aurora R7's disk speed to something that wouldn't bottleneck the rest of my computer, I discovered just how anti consumer Alienware was. After going through that nightmare, I decided I would never let this happen again, and thus have gotten into the custom building space. So thank you Alienware for being so shit that you forced me to learn and become better!
I work for Dell and repair their laptops and desktops for warranty repair. The case itself is a optiplex reuse just with a crazy exterior shell. I do enjoy the power supply swinging out since its easy to access the things under neath as well as the replaceability of that part. Though in terms of the "quality" its not the best no. Dell does try to emphasize reusablibity. In other words, create 1 product that can be reused about 10 ways. Thats the same thing for their enterprise servers.
Wait a min hold up. I know its late now, but perhaps thats the case in serverland but definitely not for consumer/business desktops. They’re far from “reusable”, but instead its just “lets not re-tool this ancient piece of garbage chassis from 2001 and strap an eye catching piece of plastic on the front”. Similar to HP in this way. Even among their own proprietary parts they are not interchangeable. For example ive been working on multiple Optiplex 7050 sff and 7060 MT models i bought for bulk pricing bc theyre e-waste after initial 5yr usage. For fun decided to mod one of the 7060 MT as a mini gaming pc by cutting a giant hole in the side panel, removing the board, snapping out the case mount cpu cooler standoffs, and installing an aftermarket 6 heatpipe downdraft cooler on the i7-8700. Checked pinouts and keying between the stock PSU (no pcie power) and the G5 5000 PSU (6 pin pcie power i wanted). It appeared to match identically with the exception of the G5 PSU having an additional 4pin CPU connector, which. Normally doesnt matter and just ziptied the slack and extra connector back. Installed 92mm rgb exhaust and intake fans after cutting apart the useless steel hinged hard drive/cd drive case to make more room for the gpu. Installed rgb remote controller and everything. Went to boot it (looks quite good actually) with an RX 6600 and 6500xt (tried both) and the board refuses to post with the psu. Evidently Dell is the only company on the planet that makes a psu that wont work with a board with the same pinouts if both 4pin cpu connectors are not plugged in… so in short, hard disagree on the “reusability” angle. Theyre just cheap, and low quality, and proprietary as possible. Sorry but you work for a garbage company that pumps out e-waste to keep earnings reports high and can be outperformed by a random named $300 Chinese motherboard with an embedded i9-11980hk and pcie slots and at least the chinese board has heatsinks on the vrm despite the chip being mobile only…. Id rather buy 100 more of the chinese boards than work on a single other dell or hp box once im done selling through this lot im refurbing because its such a horrific pain in the ass to diagnose. Also, tell your company to unlock fan control ffs and update their bios from a locked down 2007 windows xp skin. Id rather it be the generic low res one with more options (chinese board also does better in this regard, literally everything is unlocked) than one that looks pretty but you cant do any tuning with. F- Dell. Nothing against you personally, of course
@@GamersNexus maybe its crammed in enough that they assumed airpressure is high enough to assume liquid state of the air? Well i think nitrogen would be first. So its techically "liquid" nitrogen cooling
@@GamersNexus the 1800$ R10 has a "Low-Profile Smart Cooling CPU", so technically they didn't lied but they don't show this cooler either and description should say "Low-Profile Cheap Cooling CPU".
That thing has been around unchanged for much longer than that, I have one in a junk parts box that came off a core 2 duo, it's the exact same cooler lol.
@@thomaserickson5737 This case design was actually around in the middle of like 2019, so I'm not sure if that was enough time for Sony to copy them or not, but they definitely got it from Dyson and not Sony
Alienware are fully aware that anyone who knows their stuff about PC hardware, do not buy from them. Which means they take absolute liberties assuming their customers are so clueless they won't know any better.
My first gaming PC was an Alienware since I was nervous about doing a build, but after looking at all the cheap crap inside I decided to build my next one to my exact specs, and now a dozen years and 6 PCs later for my son and I I’d never buy pre built again. If this old dude can build them and have them come out flawless, so can you
I was close to buying one of these for my son. Thank you for saving me $2000. Edit: If I could find the parts that's not 3 times their worth. I would gladly build the pc my self.
Phew dodged a bullet there and then some, you are almost the sort of people these rip-off merchants target, I say almost because you are here, you've done a little (and in this case enough) research, Steve is a fantastic resource and no doubt has saved his viewers 1000s of $,£ etc. Right from the best PC case and to everything that goes in it. :)
I have no idea how old your kid is...but building a pc together would be a good investment in more ways then one. I built my first when i was 13 yrs old...haven't bought a stock config since.
If you want a good prebuilt (as good as they get anyway), I’d recommend an HP Omen 30L. All it really needs is a better air cooler, like a Noctua. A friend also had good luck with a Skytech prebuilt off Newegg. I prefer DIY, but in this market, starting with a prebuilt and modding it was the best option.
One of the most ridiculous parts of this computer (as well as most of the Alienware line-up) is the amount of plastic surrounding the metal chassis. Around 9:55 you can see that there's at least 5-8 inches of plastic on the top, about 2 inches on the front, and another 2 inches on the bottom. The computer itself would normally be a small-form-factor size, but all that extra plastic makes it as big as a regular desktop PC with absolutely no advantages. In fact, it makes it much harder to clean and definitely reduces the already pitiful amount of airflow. _But hey, even if it runs _*_hot_*_ at least it looks _*_cool_*_ right?_ *XD*
The only thing Alienware had was the looks - if you are into that kind of thing. Otherwise they are just overpriced PC-s that delivered, honestly, not that good of a gaming performance. So yeah, the rounded cheap looking plastic is the only thing Alienware ever had.
Lol, they got it backwards: Gamers want a PC that looks *hot* (red LEDs = fast) but runs *cool!* In either case, with this "Pie-Ce of shit" you pay a 100% premium for an upgraded office PC (which was already overpriced) in a (somewhat) sleek disguise. It's like buying a widebody VW Golf "hot hatch" with Racing stripes, that runs the stock 90 hp 1.3 l base engine.
I helped my buddy disassemble his Alienware prebuilt that he purchased around 4 years ago. The interior of the case on his is exactly the same as this one. Had the spring loaded lock and swivel PSU as well. Even has the same CPU cooler. Absolute nightmare to take the case apart and remove hardware. Everything was cheaply made. Would not recommend an Alienware prebuilt for the price.
the correct way to make dell improve the design of these is to run it at full power until it inevitably burns itself up, invoke the warranty to get another one, repeat ad infinitum until you've cost them so much money that they change the design just to prevent them from coming back
I own a S2417DG from DELL and I love it. So some things they do great and other things they do shitty. That is why I love GN, because they hide their buys and then give us an honest review about products that these companies are selling us.
Dell should market the air cooled version as the "Full Throttle Edition!" Then when customers complain that their CPU is downclocking they can claim this was disclosed when they sold the PC.
Damn i remember back in 2009-2010 downloading Alienware Themes for windows xp so i feel that i have that Alienware machine.... My q6600 oced @ 3.7ghz on the KING of lga 775 mobos ( Gigabyte Ga-ep45-ud3p) with random blue non brand fans in my custom made asus vento 15$ case ( i threw it from the balcony for real so i get rid of some plastic that prevented my precious air to flow through my beast and my 9600gt and his radeon 4670 iceQ later. DAMN GOOD TIMES STEVE!
@@bourbon4033 NONONONO i used to optimize windows xp to run with 100mb ram on startup.. 4gb ddr2 and my quad core back then needed to squeeze every single bit!
@@MrDeepSound I remember those optimised gaming XPs with anime girl themes. Damn I loved those. I was around 14 at the time and I had a fan that could draw random objects on it with LEDs and it was hecking cool
having an alienware laptop, all I can say is that during winter, it was making my room warmer by running real toasty not doing much. a long FIFA session and the room would raise in temperature a few degrees. it also sounds like a vacuum cleaner is on at all times.
When I was in middle school I was able to scrape some money together and convince my parents to cover the other portion of an Alienware laptop as a gift. I had nothing but issues with it from day one. Failing parts, corrupted hard drives. Their customer service is literally as garbage as their computers. And as far tech support goes, better get Rosetta stone for Hindi because you will never speak to anyone based out of the US. You'll be speaking to "Peter" from India.
@@trooperboii6789 Dude I game on an Acer Nitro 5 and I've yet to have any issues after over a year of use. So frankly it's probably less "all laptops bad" and more "Alienware is just plain ass."
I picked up an Alienware tower from Best Buy in Nov 2016 with a 1080 GTX for $1300...thing still runs like a champ in 2022 and surprisingly has lasted longer than any PC I've ever owned...the reliability impresses me greatly!
That's it bud. Liquid Cooled* *Dells liquid cooling depends on the humidity of the ambient environment, and requires the user to spray water constantly into the fan.
I found that strange as mine was actually water cooled. Its like all their boxes probably have that printed on there and he just didnt choose the option upon purchase.
@@TapZz_FPS Btw like 90% of prebuilt computers are shit tier like this, I would really recommend to just build pc or pay someone to build it for you at least.
@@Djuntas Well I live in Finland and most OEMs aren't great. Because they use weird mobos, weird PSUs, usually single stick of ram and very small coolers and their cases are most often very air restricted. I'm not trying to hate on prebuilt PCs and that's good that yours is doing well, but prebuilt just aren't at same quality level with aftermarket parts. Also one big downside to prebuilts are their limited upgradability. (Btw I think biggest upside of prebuilts is that the warranty covers the whole PC at once, so if it breaks you dont have to troubleshoot anything. Although some companies offer building the PC from the components you choose and then the whole PC gets warranty so I think thats still the best choice, at least if you are PC enthusiast.)
@@megapet777 Yea local laws and everything, but if you buy from an OEM in Denmark you get 2 year warranty, and IIRC even 14 days return policies. Biggest part of doing it right is buying one with standard of the shelf parts. Mine is that 100%. A good old NZXT H400 case, Asus mobo and 970 gpu strix etc. Just very standard. I actually bought this spec, cause at that time it was cheaper to buy from them than build yourself. And now that is even more true hehe. Anyway as I mentioned, call their support, plague them and be "that guy", annoy them, bug them, make them listen - I did that, cause I did not want their stupid AIO cooler and I also think I got a better PSU, both not as standard options on their site.
Paying $1800 to get the absolutely cheapest parts possible is already a slap in the face but when you don't even get a proper CPU cooler with it, Dell should be ashamed of them selves.
Oh god, Alienware. Things have just been downhill for this brand for the last few years. Edit: It has occurred to me that 2006 was more than a few years ago. I feel old.
This computer and that case are a blast from the past. This was done right after boxes stopped being beige by default. And now, in 2021, I see another beige box with extra plastic. This is so 2004.
The fact you buy the components without telling them abs have anonymous shipping addresses makes you the GOAT. Thank you for staying true to the pc community.
Honestly before being bought by Dell they weren't bad, you got a well built nice system but it was just hugely over-priced. It wasn't something that you would dislike really, when you saw the performance and they had interesting custom cases. But for having basically 5 nice custom cases at any given time you paid a 30% to 50% premium for the same internals.
@@OmniMontel You always buy alienware for looks. Even before the Dell buyout. I always laughed at alienware owners since they are the mac of the windows PC world.
@@OmniMontel Agreed. That's why I equate it to Mac. Decent parts, nice looking, overpriced, and halfway gimped with software locks to keep us "plebs" from breaking everything. Lmao
This is so Gateway 2000. It even has an PSU directly over the CPU. Never thought I'd see this kind of case layout again. Of course it made sense back then as CPU TDP was like 30W MAX before the Pentium 4 came out.
Alienware's persistently good reputation, at least among the non-builder PC population, is a bit mystifying. This PC is basically the current day version of the SFF Optiplex GX series found in every office since the year 2000. The shell is slightly more ostentatious but it still looks cosmopolitan corporate-friendly by emulating the Dyson look.
I remember 30 years ago my mother wanted to upgrade her modem in her year old Dell computer. It had an onboard modem and I needed to add one in an expansion slot. What a hassle. After looking inside that computer I was not impressed with Dell and have not touched their products since. Good to know things haven't changed much.
Dude, Thank You for this video. I literally was going to buy one of their computers. I have one in the shopping cart now waiting for me to pull the trigger. I can't say thanks enough. Life saver.
C+P from a similar post,, Phew dodged a bullet there and then some, you are almost the sort of people these rip-off merchants target, I say almost because you are here, you've done a little (and in this case enough) research, Steve is a fantastic resource and no doubt has saved his viewers 1000s of $,£ etc. Right from the best PC case and to everything that goes in it. :)
@@demigo1031 I don't need a pre-built, I just have Credit with them just sitting there not being used and I do need a new computer, so was going to go that route. I will build my own like I've always done and use the credit to get accessories.
It's so hard to believe that once upon a time before being bought by Dell, Alienware made working overpriced systems. Talk about complete brand destruction. Well done Dell.
I remember having an Alienware X51 R2 for a while and I swear to god that thing killed almost every component within it And yes it had an equally sad cooler, probably the same one
That's where these pre-built companies make their money. They trick you into thinking you have to have a degree in computer science to build your own PC, when really its super easy and pretty much plug and play. The only real area you might get tripped up in is compatability. But there are good and easy to find resources that can help you with that. I have built probably over 100 PCs (used to do it as a side job) and i was surprised how many people thought it was too complex to learn.
i fell a little further than you and switch the ram only to still find it was still shit couldnt return it. :( fortunatly i could move the parts into another pc so at least not all the money went to nothing
Whats sad is back in the day Alienware was the only big gaming pc maker. Like wayyyy back in the day.. they sold great custom pcs.. but thrn were bougjt out and turned to this
@@veganninja5886 i auggest you do research of current cpus and gpus out today. And learn whicj ones are top of the line or mid range and low end.. and go based on that for some prebuilt system. Dont ever just go based off some company saying (gaming system) and flashy lights. That or i suggest you learn to build a computer yourself.. its fun
Yes, stay in California or move to it's wannabe sister state Colorado. They ban a low power consumption build because it's too power hungry, but allow builds with mechanical drives and high power GPUs. They are not doing you a favor, they are controlling you and industry through regulation that is ostensibly for the greater good. In fact, it is just a sweetheart deal to reward supporters by putting them on the list of certified testers. Just more picking of winners and losers by the government. Call it what you will, it's the definition of crony capitalism.
You can really tell they didn't want to move past the early 2000's with a internal layout like that. Dell / AW monitors highly rated. actual computers garbage.
Yeah, it's super weird. I have a 3418DW screen from Alienware. Super satisfied with it. But I wouldn't touch one of their desktops with a 10 foot pole.
I mean, they don't make the panels themselves.. So it's just a bit of control software mixed with a case. Typically LG or Samsung panels, depending on IPS or VA. Only real question there is how high a grade panel do they want.
Dell monitors are fine because they source the panel from Samsung or LG, who are obviously both highly rated. But there is no point in paying a middleman unless you really like the look of the Alienware monitors, just buy directly from LG or Samsung lol.
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Isn't using the water cooling icon false advertising when there is no water cooling? Check the store page and see if there is a claim of 'water cooling' for this PC.
I'd be curious what an $1800 newegg/ABS system would compare to this abomination. Obviously would be a better deal strictly from standardized name-brand parts.
That 5800 is gonna die. Due to my 5600x arriving with a dead core, I got a second hand 5800x instead but used the 5600 heat sink. The 5800 was not happy on it, and almost overheated. Is now running fine on a bigger cooler. So that tiny OEM cooler being smaller than the 5600x *stock* cooler is just asking for the CPU to thermal throttle. :(
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Interesting how this is called "Alienware" when bad build quality and performance for the money isn't alien at all for Dell products
Aliens were discovered in the 90s and haven't increased their technology since.
The moment he opened the side panel I thought "Well it looks like a Dell" 😆
Buh dum tssss
At least you can have an extended warranty.
"You bought a Dell. You're going to hell" was a common refrain within one support team.
That CPU cooling "solution" is just embarrassing honestly
Certified Dell moment
$5 cooler. Get out, Dell.
It looks like the PC prop from Portal 1's back office levels
In under $800 PC? "Understandable" but close to 2k? Shame
i had a nearly identical one come out of a pre-built lenovo from 2010, just a normal office PC i got because i had no money and it was really cheap
it wasnt even adequate for that poor thing let alone a gaming rig
This build diminishes the "Better than Dell" award.
Dell out here competing with themselves to make the worst prebuilt
Demonstrates*
@@cjolney Literally ANYTHING would be better than Dell if this is any sign, as such, it diminishes the value of such a merit, sadly.
Well... they got bought by dell like 15 years ago... so that probably explains a lot...
Ironically Alienware belongs to Dell
I know it's kinda of late, but since becoming a Dell warranty technician I can definitely tell you those instructions are for us to figure out how to take the piece of junk apart
I feel bad that you have to deal with this lazy bloated crap
Do they just try to sell old parts laying around and throw stuff together?
@@stillnotchill2560 sure
@@SouthBayLA1310 sure =/= yes
@@stillnotchill2560 Nearly all replaceable parts are refurbished and Dell is cheap enough to force the customers to wait for refurbished parts to be available instead of providing new parts.
That heatsink is an insult. Honestly how much would it cost to get a slightly better cooler that actually covers all the dies?
Now they're called _dies_ for a reason
$1 per system
Probably not actually all that much worse than the 92mm AIOs they used to call overclocking ready.
On the site its $20 to upgrade to water cooling
Even worse after the apparently stellar effort they put on their 3090
7:33
You're mistreating the symbol on the box.
It means: "you will cry when you see the cooling"
get this to the top
The picture on the website literally shows a water cooler installed though.
Or could it be you'll cry because you have been ripped off.
This pc lowered the bar even further for the _"better than Dell"_ award.
All they did was apply new plastic sides to the same metal Chassis as my aurora I got in 2019, everything looks exactly the same.
@@myopicautisticmetal9035 Little has changed on these systems for far longer than that.
Which is funny, because they’re both made by Dell!
@@looncraz had an alienware aurora r4 from like 2011 and the airflow was complete dog even back then, same plastic on metal build but i was a kid so i didnt know better so im assuming thats the buyers theyre still praying on^ OH, and mine had cls that stopped working after like a year so i had to buy a new one...
I thought that was impossible
My opinion of this PC went from "it's not THAT bad" to "how the hell is this even being sold" real fast.
Yeah when disassembled that thing doesn't even look worth $1800. $18 is more like it
@@leedlefly Dell's are not, and never have been, worth the air they displace from the room they are in. Even when they bought alienware they didn't suddenly start making or selling anything worth existing, they only destroyed what *used to be* a good brand name.
@VaderxG This isn't blue because of intel. It's an AMD Ryzen build. The board just happens to be blue. Many PCBs are blue or green, they're coated other colors when they're visible just to look better.
Alienware is 90% marketing and 10% shitty hardware
they hide the crappiness by a decent looking case, just decent
"We have very high standards because we want the computer to work"
In today's technological world, that's the highest standard... is that it works without it costing as much as a house.
Now that just sounds plain unreasonable.
say what you want about consoles, but at least you plug them in and they sort of work. it's sad that console manufacturers get away with shittier performance because they have no real competition in the non-tech savy world. imagine if dell used all their global reach and money to put out THE gaming prebuilt instead of crap ewaste.
@@enzito_sdf6978 wdym shittier performance? A PC with the same spec as a console will generally perform worse because consoles are more optimized hardware wise and software wise.
@@steveqi9309 yeah, you're right on that, but consoles still are less flexible and last less than even a basic pc since they lack upgradeability.
I remember when I was a kid seeing Alienware and thinking it was the coolest pc I’ve ever seen now I just realize that that’s their entire marketing strategy… appeal to children so you can get away with half assing the internals
There was a time when Alienware was a top notch brand. Its only after they were acquired by Dell....
@@Cakebattered Alienware before Dell did about the same quality of builds, bloated price, bad cooling.
@@invisalats841 You must have not seen Gamers Nexus videos on the new Alienware Auroras.
Same I grew up wanting only a alien ware or razor
@@Cakebattered i think their monitors are pretty decent I like mine
Steve: "That's lazy and cheap!"
Dell execs looking at their profit margins: "you're god damn right"
Preceded by: "SAY MY NAME...."
When I was very young I always thought that Alienware PCs are the best you can get. In hindsight I was very lucky to have built back then my own PC instead of purchasing an overpriced Dell "gaming" one.
ya flashy and cool on the outside (sorta).....and generic AF on the inside
And they don't use Crisco and a shoe horn...................It's dry baby!
@@snowhawk4049 Alienware was an excellent brand once.....then they were bought by Dell.....been downhill ever since
I worked for Alienware back in 2004 before the Dell acquisition. I can honestly say that back then the majority of the employees were actual gamers and were really excited to work for the company. If you said you worked for Alienware back then, (in Miami) you were pretty cool.
And while they were always extremely expensive I can say that they were built with care and the techs that worked on the computers returned for tech support were VERY intelligent and avid gamers. Its sad to see what the company has become.
I remember going to my dad's friends house and he had a Alienware PC and it looked insane, ever since then I wanted one but when I found out that dell acquired them and basically made downgraded them I decided just to build my own.
Yeah. I remember the og Alienware. While it wasn't my dream PC, I definitely marveled at it when I came across it. Shame how big business always ruin a good thing.
Back when having an alienware was a brag.
This is literally the Precision 3630 chassis, we have hundreds of them in the office that I support.
Fun fact: VRMs at 10:50 are coming *with* a heatsink now and everytime we service one of these towers DELL sends a heatsink to install free of charge.
They certainly aren't sending out free components out of the kindness of their hearts, I bet they smelled another lawsuit coming.
Hey you think you csn send one for me? Unbelievable that Dell sends any unit they ship without a vrm heatsink. It's worse than planned obsolescence. It's planned failure.
THAT'S where I've seen those chassis! We supply ex-lease IT hw to non-profits, had to replace a few power supplies as they seem to fail ground tests regularly, so I had to make a bunch of adapters for ATX-whateverthehelldell's socket is.
@@lucidnonsense942 What do you mean by ground test? At least it seems like they have their power supplies together now... too bad about the rest of the computer though
I had a feeling, it looked like they put a pre-existing case in a plastic cocoon. Probably to cut costs.
"McAffee is speeding up your app" Someone has a sense of humor there
wacked
It goes so fast it breaks the space-time Fabric and makes it appears slow
"McAfee is trying to not slow down your app as much" was obviously rejected by the marketing department... 🤣
It could be that McAffee speeds up various bloatware background processes by allocating more system resources to them 🤨
McAffee did not kill himself
Yes been waiting to see him tear down and review an Alienware. This should be good
Haha, "GOOD" in one way. Build quality is not that way!
You and me both.
This should be good because it's going to be really bad 🍿😁
My God it's even worse than I thought smh
@@stuporman
What?! A 120mm AIO won't cool much better either. Are they high? (Except on the pricing)
Honestly a marvel of modern engineering how they managed to make a pc from 2002 look like a modern pc
Ricer PC
12:33 "Where the air goes, nobody knows", when is this shirt going into production?
I love the fact he said they order anonymously and even have different shipping addresses so he can get a unit the average Joe would buy.
Bahahaha fr? Will they not ship knowing it's him? Kinda saying somn because in theory a multi million dollar company should not at all be fearful of a TH-camr and yet they are, almost as if HE would find something an average joe wouldn't
@@eatcum I think it has more to do with him not wanting them to send a better or different unit knowing that he will be reviewing it for a large audience. Either way they are such an atrocious company
@@eatcum No it’s the opposite, if they knew who he was they would likely send a specifically chosen/made version so if he makes a video it will come off positively
@@eatcum You are not the smartest guy around there.
@@eatcum it's eliminate any possibility of bias from the company. Big company do realise the impact of social media on their sales.
I love how prior to getting into building PCs I used to have the impression that these Alienware stuff had to be good cause of their price tag, really goes to show the knowledge disparity between enthusiasts and your typical consumer
Also the pure avarice in the eyes of a Dell executive when they see how much they can get away with charging for this kind of crap. And how little they can spend on actual product "quality".
Alienware used to be decent. Once dell bought them they went down the toilet.
Alienware has great monitors, but their computers are god awful even at high-end
@@Nachoscrosshair Agreed. While they were always overpriced, Alienware made a lot of pretty decent to actually good PCs before Dell aquired them.
Back before I got myself more educated on PCs (thanks in part to Gamers Nexus) I bought an Alienware R4 laptop - an expensive machine that I assumed had to be awesome coz it cost so much… Wanted to love it so much, but it was a regretful purchase…
A lot of these pre built websites include an optional professional wiring upgrade or upgraded shipping protection. Which is fucking ridiculous in my eyes. If someone is paying an up charge in parts for you to build a pc you should wire it professionally and neatly regardless. If you’re shipping a computer it should be packed with care regardless.
LMAO clearly the non-professional wiring option is finding some random grandma off the street to put it together
For the prices they charge you should get wiring done by a Buddist monk at the top of a mountain who only does one computer in his entire life and immediately dies feeling fulfilled.
@@CruelestChris lmao
@@CruelestChris this f guy gets it....
Seeing high demand parts being wasted like this hurts
100% this
While we're scrambling for components, Dell is happily throwing them into piles of crap like this
Makes it easy for me to strip them down when stupid people buy them and then toss them when they break in 2 weeks lol
@@Zullixx oooooh, how do you get them?
@@SenatorNorman Recycle centers and donation centers. There's hundreds that 99% of the time end up in landfills and not actually recycled. Just look up near you tech donation or recycle centers. Also asking neighbors helps too.
@@SenatorNorman alienware bunker warehouse cyber-dumpsters
I guess it's not just the laptops.
Never was.
there are laptops with better airflow LOL
Wow this is a crazy roast. 🤣
Love your work Jarrod! I'm not sure about the USA, but the r11/r12 models were getting pretty steep discounts at the peak of the GPU price hike a few months ago, often the systems were selling for less than the GPU they shipped with in Aus. Not long after dell 3080's and empty or gpu mismatched r11's starting popping up all over the usual 2nd hand market sites. Even at that discounted price, I personally still felt ripped off with what I received as someone whose built all my PC's til then.
They should’ve followed through with the UFO handheld. Now they’re gonna lose vs. Valve with that
At $2k for a rig that doesn't even have a heatsink on it's VRM, it is legitimately a scam rig. I'd trust a dodgy PC ad on craiglist more than I would trust Alienware.
I could spend less money, get a Lian Li Lancool II Mesh case and have a superior rig with a case that isn’t trying it’s hardest to strangle it’s own airflow.
This has three fans including the cpu cooler… the case I mention, can have 3 front, two top, one back and two inside to help cool the gpu if you really wanted.
@@draketurtle4169 The people who buy these prebuilts are inexperienced people who are not interesed in learning how to build a pc due to lack of interest or confidence
or they just dont have the time to build one.
@@davidjohn3710 I suppose that is true, I have an interest in getting a good setup but most importantly one thst is cheap but as reliable as I can get, the people who buy from them see the brand/design first.
@@draketurtle4169 I bought nearly the same thing in the vid but several upgrades on it. Close to $2,500. Stepdad is an IT guy & has been, I can solemnly say that when he opened it up to check it out, it looked nothing like this. Can run any game at 200+ FPS, haven’t really strained it any other way
@@draketurtle4169 damn good case. I am running one of those currently. Can attest to its easy access and we'll formed interior making it easy to work with
"It's not enough for it to be overpriced, it also has to be garbage." -Dell Executive (probably)
lmao
I would bet that the chassis literally is garbage. They probably had a pile of ancient computer cases sitting in a warehouse, destined for the dump and some higher-up said "hey, I think we might be able to re-use this. Someone fetch me an engineer--and make sure you put a collar on this one! The last one got away."
"but make it look cool from the outside"
They just fired every case designer who worked on anything but servers, and forced one of them to design all their cases in a week.
You’d almost suspect Intel was paying Dell to sabotage the AMD boxes if it wasn’t for the fact that the Intel boxes are total garbage too.
Dell always favors Intel
dell still selling crap Optiplex to business and recycled the design to Ailenware
Favouring in pricing and marketing and range certainly, but clearly not when it comes to technical expertise
@@andyastrand You can't utilize what you don't have.
There's actually a lot of stories about Intel sabotaging their G5 laptops with rizer cpus through bios updates. These updates gets installed automatically by Windows Updates and significantly slows the computer down and give a lot worst gaming performances.
7:41 That's not a water drop... that's Dell saying "Shed a tear 😢, kind stranger, for the cooling performance of this device"
ok, I legit lol'ed at that. well done.
But what if its sweat?
Not so long ago, I had never built a PC. And to date, I have built exactly one. But the thought of it was intimidating so I started looking at pre-built options. At the time, Micro Center was running a special on an Aurora R10 with a Ryzen 5900X and 3080 ti for $2K and 12 months 0% interest financing. So I went on down to Micro Center to look at one with the intention of buying one. The guy at MC who was helping me seemed like he wanted to say something about my choice, but was understandably biting his tongue, as I am sure that MC has a very financially beneficial relationship with Dell and their staff is probably trained to not bad mouth them. So I made the purchase.
To say the experience with how the PC performed was disappointing was an understatement. Any attempt to run games in full-screen mode was met with constant display flickering or just outright going to black for 3-10 seconds before coming back. More frustrating than the performance was the customer service. I basically got run around in a circle for 90 minutes while being disconnected and talking to one indifferent person after another while getting no support on the issue. So I promptly did a factory reset on the machine and took it back to MC.
I was frustrated and decided that I was going to watch as many PC build tutorials as possible. I went back a couple of weeks later and had someone help me spec out a similarly equipped unit that included a Ryzen 5900X, EVGA Geforce RTX 3080 Ti, 1 TB NVME SSD, MSI Tomahawk X570s, EVGA 1000W Gold PSU, 32GB of Corsair RAM, Corsair H150i AIO, and a Lian Li Lancool II Mesh to house it all. It ended up costing me $200 more for a VASTLY superior PC that also looks amazing and doesn't lock me into buying a whole new PC when that hunk of junk R10 inevitably broke down.
To anyone who is looking at pre-built options, just know that I was and to a degree still am a tech idiot. Did I make mistakes and have to redo things here and there during the build? Absolutely! Did I have to keep referencing videos and googling things to get it all done? You bet your ass I did! But I figured it out and took the time to make everything look and run perfect. My point is that it is not as difficult as you think. You can definitely build your own PC and it will mean more to you when you're done. Don't be afraid to step out of your comfort zone. Trust me when I say, if I can build a PC, so can you.
I sincerely appreciate channels like Gamers Nexus and other quality content creators in the tech space who educate everyday Joe's like me to help us learn what to buy and what to stay away from and also put out quality content to help people get through their first build and have a quality working PC.
did you reuse any of the components from the dell pc in the diy build? im sure the cpu and ram could be reused but i don't know. the way to go is to factory reset the windows install as soon as you get a prebuilt to get rid of the shit
@@spacewoag4572 I did not. I returned the entire system after realizing it was a dud and that Dell's customer service was absolute trash. My current system was built from scratch with off the shelf components.
I've been building my own since like 2008 or something.
Every four or five years.
It's always a mess though, I suck at cable management and I insist on making SFX builds.
Getting a 3080 and a liquid AIO in an SFX case was... Interesting. Cables look a damb mess. Don't even care, it's got decent thermals and runs.
@@deveneleven400 I'm not the original commenter, but I used LTT's first-person PC build guide when building my first PC. They've come out with a longer guide that goes over component selections, but I don't remember if that included a guide on how to build the computer.
Totally agree! My whole family has been Mac, but I paid for the parts and built my own pc after months of researching and obsessing. Just so people know how little intelligence you need to build a pc, the first time I tried to turn it on (before I put it in the case) it didn't do anything. The lights on the cpu fan turned on, along with the power supply fan, but the cpu fan didn't turn on (and the heatsink didn't even get warm. Turns out after quite a bit of troubleshooting I didn't plug in an extra cable into the *power supply*. I had put the cpu power cable into the motherboard, but I hadn't put *all* of the cpu connectors into the power supply (I have a modular power supply). Since then, it has worked fine ever since.
“A warranty with e-waste attached to it.” A beautiful way to summarize the Dell G5 5000.
Tiny typo, mate : the last two words should be "summarize Dell."
@@andyk192 PRETTY bad? I received my Alienware just after the takeover and had to send it back for repair three times in the FIRST YEAR ALONE.
I freely admit that makes me bitter and biased against them, but they do make some frankly repulsive costcutting choices under the Alienware brand.
my favorite part about Alienware is how the plastic makes the computer twice as big
@TH-cam is highkey garbage If you are talking about Alienware Area 51M, don't you dare talk shit about it.
It's one of the best system ever made, a true desktop replacement. Replaceable parts, runs very cool, it's a godlike desktop replacement. It isn't so much a laptop, thing is fucking massive. But it's basically a PC with screen attached that can be moved from location to location easier.
Sadly, everything else Alienware makes are utter garbage and they stopped making Area 51M and tried to pursue thinness like monkeys.
In an effort to make it look "cool" they completely destroyed any chance of airflow. These things are like Bic lighters, use them until they wont work and throw them away.
Plastic = 100, Space to Performance Ratio = 100/0
@@stephenhood2948 Except Bic lighters are dirt cheap and Alienware computers will cost you your life savings and a testicle.
wolf in sheeps clothing
Alienware: "Only Dell can be worse than Dell."
Is that like saying the only war France ever won was the French Revolution? Someone from France had to win.
@@mrrogers07 Remember when Dell was a good PC built? Yeah I know it was a long, long, long, long, time ago but do you remember? 😬
@@AwesomeBlackDude That I do. I also remember when Gateway 2000 and Zeos were great too!
@@mrrogers07 Well, I don't recall ever being inside a Dell retail store I never see ones, but I have been inside a Gateway computer store. 😉
I remember when Alienware was a small company that was going well beyond what everyone else was doing, putting 1T HDs in a system when companies like Dell were stuck at 500G and placing water coolers in their system. I miss the old Alienware.
Money changes people, money changes companies
@@SluggyBoi
What happens when finance suits become CEOs
I'm just waiting for the Alienware UFO handheld
I'm good on that Chief, A New Challenger Approached not sure if you heard, The Steam Deck.
@@cooldave10 I know about it. But I like the design of the UFO, with Xbox like controller placement.
You can't hold a ufo handheld. You only get shitty low quality video clips of Alienware ufo handhelds
Our luck its just gonna be a Raspberry Pi equivalent Ryzen with a terrible screen and Steam Controller style touch pads for joysticks
deadass thought everyone forgot about it
I love that Steve doesn’t hold the punches. This is what we need in every consumer product.
He buys his own review units, not freebies like sooo many other reviewers.
It would be amusing to see him review a Dell workstation and be absolutely shocked the quality difference between their business/enterprise products and consumer products.
"this $1800 cooler came with this computer."
that is a priceless intro.
More like this $1600 RTX 3060 came with this $200 cooler and something that looks like a computer...
LOL. And they require a 1000watt PSU. It's obvious why, because a PSU producing any more heat would cause the CPU to possibly go into thermal shutdown so they need a PSU that will have a low power demand-to-overhead.
@@krozareq OMG didn't think about that, that makes sense. Even Dell knows this is a garbage system so it only makes sense to put a PSU that is functionally idle at all times. Scumbags
I used to work for Dell, in XPS support between late 2006 and mid-2008, I'm not sure if I'm amused or horrified that Dell is still using the business model of "We sell garbage to morons."
In a sane world, they could be sued for this machine.
They can, when the VRM explodes and takes your data with it.
Not even a heatsink next to a 100 C generating CPU sinking mostly into the copper on the mainboard.
What do you mean by “sane”? Everyone is already sue happy so they could if they wanted. On what grounds? I’m sure they could argue, you got exactly what they advertised to you.
Btw - I can’t stand Dell machines. They’ve screwed me over more than once, and our business decided to switch from Lenovo to Dell 3-4 years ago and we’ve had more DoA machines than I care to count. So not fanboying, just making a point.
@@GrimTactics They advertised a PC with a cooling solution so stupid it throttles when under heavy workload and could even melt?
Such a sad end of Alienware (I'm still old enough to remember them pre-dell)
Still have my wifes Alienware from 2003, pre-Dell. They were pretty slick back then. As soon as Dell bought them I knew it was over. I build now, much better option.
@@socmonki Same for me. The bio-design thingies from the early 2000s where really good. Now it's nothing but a disaster... 😔
Oh hey, something to add to that Class-Action Lawsuit case.
A $100 million settlement, customers each get 17 cents. Don’t spend it all in one place.
Never go class action, always hire your own lawyer.
@@criostasis I get what you're saying but Dell is out $100 million where as I doubt they'd pay any single user $100 million. I'd rather say fuck you to Dell tbh.
@@muckymucks One more cent than what l3iden "saved" us for the "racist" July 4th barbecue.
@@LoLiTzTommyy Amen to that! It's like saying to the Judge saying to Dell: Bailiff whack his peepee
Just wow. I always thought of Alienware stuff as just being overpriced and not worth your money, but I never realized just the amount of corners that Dell attempts to cut and the amount of things that they cheap out in with their PCs. To cut as many corners and cheap out in as many things as they did in an 1800 dollar pc is just unacceptable and embarrassing. What a lousy job.
Alienware is quite extraordinary, staying in business while having 0 return customers is a real feat.
Idiots always return. I have a co-worker who fried his alienware gaming laptop. Bought a new one the same day.
Who needs return customers and good products with a steady supply of new idiots being produced that love buying crap every day?
Millenials who get into money are buying based on rumours from 2008.
Alienware is a money laundering operation for international drug cartels
@@notlNSIGHT most likely a joke, autismo. not everything on the internet is serious statement. 😑
The pre-built equivalent of the “our expectations for you were low, but HOLY FUCK” sign.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Take this 👍
Shocking how this literally looks like an early 2000s pre-built. Absolutely disgusting job from Alienware, as always
You mean Dell* Alienware have been Dells for MANY, MANY years
And some peps out there feeling and acting cool cause they spent an ass full of cash for that crap. Really that makes me more sad than its entertaining
No kidding, its so fucking awful, that if if the price was slashed in half, it still wouldn't be worth it.
Inside Alienware is the same shit just like MEDION... . The same problem with drivers... .
I used to work at their call center in Costa Rica, ever since they were bought by Dell the quality of the technical service and the build fell dramatically. We used to do liquid cooling when it was not a thing, we did research and development and tested all parts, we had a lab to test them, if a user had compatibility issues we could immediately find all the parts for testing and when there was hardware issues we could claim it to the vendor.
Then we got fired one by one and were replaced by cheaper and very inexperienced techs.
Two years later but Id love to see a review of the R16. They changed the case (finally)!
They have a review up
@@Spightfull I could be wrong but I couldnt find any reviews of the R16, the newest one was the R15. I have no intention of ever buying one, but I WAS curious if they had fixed the case issues or not.
@@Spightfull omg never mind I found it, was included in another video. Seems like although it wasnt perfect, it was at least improved. I like it when we as a group (pc enjoyers) can actually make an impact on these big corps.
Its so sad. When I was a teeny tot, Alienware was the "omg you got one of those, you parents must be rich" now its the "Dude you got a dell?" - with a horrified face instead of excited....
yeah it's sad times... they used to be sweet... now they are total trash and you are better off just buying your money in the furnace
@@LiLBitsDK They might have been "sweet" viewed through adolescent eyes back in the 90s/00s. But we're all a bit older and wiser now. Well, most of us are ...
Back then I kept saying they were shit.
They never were good, but alas impressionable people as per usual will get a hard on over something that looks nice; and thus the Alienware craze.
Ironically, Dell was a company that pushed the plastic air tunnel hooked to the cpu cooler pushing hot air out the pc.
Ideal for this situation...so, where is it?
Dude that piece costs like five cents man what do you want??
@@NightRogue77 yeah bro they still need to make a small profit, they are a company not a charity!
Intel stopped supporting that configuration. Techquickie just did a video of discontinued parts where that was featured.
It's interesting because you can find it in much less high performance and cheaper systems than this.
dude if you have good thermals than you can't learn to rely on their support services and get the opportunity to buy a new system when this one wears out. They just want the best for you, after all..... dude. You got a dell.
The funniest, also the saddest thing from this is the “uniqueness” of Dell’s design
Man, have you seen Dell's machines from the 1990s? Not only were their "custom" hardware solutions absolute garbage already, but finding drivers to them feels like doing Sumerian Sudoku blindfolded.
Dell decides to deliver a P4 machine to me, where yhe tem9 srnsor for the CPU was in yhe path of the CPU fan. Talk about oscillation. The fan went high-speed. Cooled the temp sensor. The fan stopped. The sensor got hot. The fan returned to crazy speed. A full day with the fan switching between slow and fast was no joke...
That made me seriously dislike Dell, and I have never stopped.
@@Artsificial Oooo! Sumerian Sudoku while blindfolded. I did Sumerian Sudoku while injecting methamphetamine once. Once.
I repaired so many dells in the nineties and early ‘00s. Every case is a f@&$ing nightmare. Horrendous cable management… and airflow? Wtf is that?
@@stewiepid4385 sounds like a CEO Mindset 😎👉🏻👉🏻
I have the Aurora R5 and the interior layout is identical to the R10, other than the components. Same hinged PSU, same pop-off side panel, everything. Insane how they've felt the need to change nothing except the plastic shell over the last 5 years.
I used to work for Alienware before Dell acquired them. We used to build the machines on the line. Whenever we read the invoices, we would marvel at how much money people would spend on machines we could build for a fraction of the price. Seems like things have become even worse. Even cheaper.
What year did you work for Alienware. I had a computer built by them in 2007. It was ok and it broke because of cooling problems. Thanks to that computer i learned how to build my own computers and never looked back,
@@ziosrips dell acquired alienware in 2006
@@kengerrish8217 Yeah I was probably 2006 then long time ago Hard to remember exactly
Can't get the parts for the parts for a 13 cheaper than Dell sales it.
@@ziosrips Alienware is the reason I got into building computers in the first place. After trying to increase my Aurora R7's disk speed to something that wouldn't bottleneck the rest of my computer, I discovered just how anti consumer Alienware was. After going through that nightmare, I decided I would never let this happen again, and thus have gotten into the custom building space. So thank you Alienware for being so shit that you forced me to learn and become better!
“where the air goes, nobody knows”
-all of us at these terrible prebuilts
I literally scrolled past this commet the exact moment steven said it
I could probably build a better computer case out of a pet cage and zip ties.
@@hariman7727 It's so bad, literally no computer case at all would be better than this.
This has to be the worst pre-built I've ever seen for the price. Dell are lying to people.
Been lying to people for decades
@@shaolinrasta2289 I mean, bruh.... it's Dell.
In Canada 2000$ gets you a 1060 GPU and 5th gen Intel CPU due to high taxes and bad regional pricing.
Talk them down on a good price for the gpu. And put it in a good case. 2000$ 5600x and 3090 man
I'm in Turkey and the prices are worst. I bought a gtx 1060 3-4 years ago and sold it for 4 times the price.
I work for Dell and repair their laptops and desktops for warranty repair. The case itself is a optiplex reuse just with a crazy exterior shell. I do enjoy the power supply swinging out since its easy to access the things under neath as well as the replaceability of that part. Though in terms of the "quality" its not the best no.
Dell does try to emphasize reusablibity. In other words, create 1 product that can be reused about 10 ways. Thats the same thing for their enterprise servers.
Wait a min hold up. I know its late now, but perhaps thats the case in serverland but definitely not for consumer/business desktops. They’re far from “reusable”, but instead its just “lets not re-tool this ancient piece of garbage chassis from 2001 and strap an eye catching piece of plastic on the front”. Similar to HP in this way. Even among their own proprietary parts they are not interchangeable. For example ive been working on multiple Optiplex 7050 sff and 7060 MT models i bought for bulk pricing bc theyre e-waste after initial 5yr usage. For fun decided to mod one of the 7060 MT as a mini gaming pc by cutting a giant hole in the side panel, removing the board, snapping out the case mount cpu cooler standoffs, and installing an aftermarket 6 heatpipe downdraft cooler on the i7-8700. Checked pinouts and keying between the stock PSU (no pcie power) and the G5 5000 PSU (6 pin pcie power i wanted). It appeared to match identically with the exception of the G5 PSU having an additional 4pin CPU connector, which. Normally doesnt matter and just ziptied the slack and extra connector back. Installed 92mm rgb exhaust and intake fans after cutting apart the useless steel hinged hard drive/cd drive case to make more room for the gpu. Installed rgb remote controller and everything. Went to boot it (looks quite good actually) with an RX 6600 and 6500xt (tried both) and the board refuses to post with the psu. Evidently Dell is the only company on the planet that makes a psu that wont work with a board with the same pinouts if both 4pin cpu connectors are not plugged in… so in short, hard disagree on the “reusability” angle. Theyre just cheap, and low quality, and proprietary as possible. Sorry but you work for a garbage company that pumps out e-waste to keep earnings reports high and can be outperformed by a random named $300 Chinese motherboard with an embedded i9-11980hk and pcie slots and at least the chinese board has heatsinks on the vrm despite the chip being mobile only…. Id rather buy 100 more of the chinese boards than work on a single other dell or hp box once im done selling through this lot im refurbing because its such a horrific pain in the ass to diagnose. Also, tell your company to unlock fan control ffs and update their bios from a locked down 2007 windows xp skin. Id rather it be the generic low res one with more options (chinese board also does better in this regard, literally everything is unlocked) than one that looks pretty but you cant do any tuning with. F- Dell. Nothing against you personally, of course
@@MentalLemur reusable for dell, not you
*Dell guy* : "They really hated our PC what should we do?"
*Other Dell guy* "... Charge more????"
*first Dell guy* "OMG.. Genius!"
Dell Stock holders: STONKS!
Maybe sell them that "on site" warranty that requires them to send the computer to us anyway.
air is technically the gas form of liquid air
Alienware does it again, revolutionary
GENIUS. I think they're hiring for marketing!
@@GamersNexus maybe its crammed in enough that they assumed airpressure is high enough to assume liquid state of the air? Well i think nitrogen would be first. So its techically "liquid" nitrogen cooling
@@GamersNexus the 1800$ R10 has a "Low-Profile Smart Cooling CPU", so technically they didn't lied but they don't show this cooler either and description should say "Low-Profile Cheap Cooling CPU".
Nitrogen cooling, revolutionary!
@@ris1989 Yup, "smart cooling' means 'rely on the CPU's inbuilt throttling to prevent it melting. Old trick.
This makes me really sad, I worked for Alienware for 5 years before Dell bought them and seeing them go down the shit drain hurts a little
What a coincidence, I used to Buy Alienware until Dell flushed them down the Toilet.
I couldn't stop laughing at the CPU cooler. It's literally the same one they use in their now ancient OptiPlex 790 MT.
That thing has been around unchanged for much longer than that, I have one in a junk parts box that came off a core 2 duo, it's the exact same cooler lol.
Pretty sure it’s the same one from 2000
Back then, they used copper slugs, so they were arguably BETTER.
It looks like my air purifier mixed with the PS5
Kinda like on of those dyson fans.
I think Alienware took inspiration from Dyson and Sony took inspiration from Alienware :p
Imagine if Alienware ran PS5 cooling?
@@thomaserickson5737 This case design was actually around in the middle of like 2019, so I'm not sure if that was enough time for Sony to copy them or not, but they definitely got it from Dyson and not Sony
An air purifier, ahhh shit lol
Alienware are fully aware that anyone who knows their stuff about PC hardware, do not buy from them. Which means they take absolute liberties assuming their customers are so clueless they won't know any better.
Only thing I bought from them is my ultrawide.. No regrets on that really.. Because they don't make the panels..
On the head
My first gaming PC was an Alienware since I was nervous about doing a build, but after looking at all the cheap crap inside I decided to build my next one to my exact specs, and now a dozen years and 6 PCs later for my son and I I’d never buy pre built again. If this old dude can build them and have them come out flawless, so can you
Alienware is probably the best pc there is
@@RegardedBee185 …. You’re very not smart.
My expectations were incredibly low, yet Dell somehow still managed to not meet them.
🤔
You could say my expectations were on the floor, and Dell dug a tunnel underneath them.
"Plastic Edgelord" is about the best, most succinct description of Alienware's design philosophy I've yet seen.
I was close to buying one of these for my son. Thank you for saving me $2000.
Edit:
If I could find the parts that's not 3 times their worth. I would gladly build the pc my self.
Phew dodged a bullet there and then some, you are almost the sort of people these rip-off merchants target, I say almost because you are here, you've done a little (and in this case enough) research, Steve is a fantastic resource and no doubt has saved his viewers 1000s of $,£ etc.
Right from the best PC case and to everything that goes in it. :)
High iq move
LOL yea just ignore all prebuild system and built you're self a Ryzen computer. It's fairly easy to build computers now.
I have no idea how old your kid is...but building a pc together would be a good investment in more ways then one. I built my first when i was 13 yrs old...haven't bought a stock config since.
If you want a good prebuilt (as good as they get anyway), I’d recommend an HP Omen 30L. All it really needs is a better air cooler, like a Noctua. A friend also had good luck with a Skytech prebuilt off Newegg. I prefer DIY, but in this market, starting with a prebuilt and modding it was the best option.
One of the most ridiculous parts of this computer (as well as most of the Alienware line-up) is the amount of plastic surrounding the metal chassis. Around 9:55 you can see that there's at least 5-8 inches of plastic on the top, about 2 inches on the front, and another 2 inches on the bottom. The computer itself would normally be a small-form-factor size, but all that extra plastic makes it as big as a regular desktop PC with absolutely no advantages. In fact, it makes it much harder to clean and definitely reduces the already pitiful amount of airflow.
_But hey, even if it runs _*_hot_*_ at least it looks _*_cool_*_ right?_ *XD*
Even then, it looks like one of those Dyson bladeless fans
The only thing Alienware had was the looks - if you are into that kind of thing. Otherwise they are just overpriced PC-s that delivered, honestly, not that good of a gaming performance. So yeah, the rounded cheap looking plastic is the only thing Alienware ever had.
Actually that plastic probably helps to muffle the sounds of that CPU fan fighting for its life
Lol, they got it backwards:
Gamers want a PC that looks *hot* (red LEDs = fast) but runs *cool!*
In either case, with this "Pie-Ce of shit" you pay a 100% premium for an upgraded office PC (which was already overpriced) in a (somewhat) sleek disguise.
It's like buying a widebody VW Golf "hot hatch" with Racing stripes, that runs the stock 90 hp 1.3 l base engine.
Its marketing bro, Dell are probably very proud of this
Steve reviewing bad prebuilds: "I'm smiling but I'm really f*cking furious."
I helped my buddy disassemble his Alienware prebuilt that he purchased around 4 years ago. The interior of the case on his is exactly the same as this one. Had the spring loaded lock and swivel PSU as well. Even has the same CPU cooler.
Absolute nightmare to take the case apart and remove hardware. Everything was cheaply made. Would not recommend an Alienware prebuilt for the price.
I've got one that's built the same and it's a breeze to take apart, not sure what ur complaining about.
@@dudndadn12212 sure, if you think re-inventing the wheel in the most inconvenient way possible is a breeze then goooooood for you.
@@SonicGasoline have you had to take one apart?? Didn't think so
@@dudndadn12212 yes, yes I have.
@@dudndadn12212 You're literally replying to the comment about him taking one apart. Are you drunk?
the correct way to make dell improve the design of these is to run it at full power until it inevitably burns itself up, invoke the warranty to get another one, repeat ad infinitum until you've cost them so much money that they change the design just to prevent them from coming back
Heat damage is physical damage, which they don't cover.
@@redoxicomanic3676 isn't that convenient... 🙄
@@redoxicomanic3676 LOLLLL with a $5 cpu cooler
@@redoxicomanic3676 It's heat damage caused by your pc not working properly. that should definitely fall under warranty. at least under EU law
@@redoxicomanic3676 heat is NOT PHYSICAL DAMAGE if coming from the inside that bs
Dell: “We are the worst OEM builders out there!”
Alienware: “Hold my-“
Dell: “I OWN YOU!!!”
LOL
All I hear is Hades from Hercules
Dell: “We are the worst OEM builders out there!”
Alienware: “Hold my-“
Dell: "Hold my-"
Alienware: "Hold my-"
Dell: "Hold my-"
Alienware: "Hold my-"
Dell: "Hold my-"
Alienware: "Hold my-"
Dell: "Hold my-"
Alienware: "Hold my-"...
There you go, yw.
Must be something that has more power than beer what their designers drink. Maybe denatured alcohol
I own a S2417DG from DELL and I love it. So some things they do great and other things they do shitty. That is why I love GN, because they hide their buys and then give us an honest review about products that these companies are selling us.
Saw the cpu cooler at the start, realised I didn’t need to see anymore.
Dell in a nutshell nowadays
L🤭L Optional Upgrade: Dimension 8400 Leaf Blower! 💨🍃😱
Let me guess... you watched the whole thing anyway because, like a slow-motion car crash, you couldn't look away.
@@TheEDFLegacy Yup, there's also the 'How seriously bad is it though?'
2:49
"It was attached to newegg, who has some of the worst customer support we have yet tested"
Oh that aged like fine wine
Tastes exquisitely.
Dell should market the air cooled version as the "Full Throttle Edition!"
Then when customers complain that their CPU is downclocking they can claim this was disclosed when they sold the PC.
their*
If I was AMD, I'd be pissed how Dell is selling this product.
I would be pissed too if a company was using my competition's cooler and cooler mounting system frying the silicon. What an insult.
Damn i remember back in 2009-2010 downloading Alienware Themes for windows xp so i feel that i have that Alienware machine....
My q6600 oced @ 3.7ghz on the KING of lga 775 mobos ( Gigabyte Ga-ep45-ud3p) with random blue non brand fans in my custom made asus vento 15$ case ( i threw it from the balcony for real so i get rid of some plastic that prevented my precious air to flow through my beast and my 9600gt and his radeon 4670 iceQ later. DAMN GOOD TIMES STEVE!
i did download a custom alieware fan made iso for windows 7 lol
@@bourbon4033 NONONONO i used to optimize windows xp to run with 100mb ram on startup.. 4gb ddr2 and my quad core back then needed to squeeze every single bit!
@@MrDeepSound i used to ran a pentium 4 from 2005 and 1.5gb ram, my system was laggy as hell and i did not give a hoot about it haha
@@MrDeepSound I remember those optimised gaming XPs with anime girl themes. Damn I loved those. I was around 14 at the time and I had a fan that could draw random objects on it with LEDs and it was hecking cool
Lol q6600 quad vs E8400 duo debates 2009
having an alienware laptop, all I can say is that during winter, it was making my room warmer by running real toasty not doing much. a long FIFA session and the room would raise in temperature a few degrees. it also sounds like a vacuum cleaner is on at all times.
Laptop temps in a massive full form factor, quite impressive.
You mean a small form factor with a shit ton of plastic padding around.
When I was in middle school I was able to scrape some money together and convince my parents to cover the other portion of an Alienware laptop as a gift. I had nothing but issues with it from day one. Failing parts, corrupted hard drives. Their customer service is literally as garbage as their computers. And as far tech support goes, better get Rosetta stone for Hindi because you will never speak to anyone based out of the US. You'll be speaking to "Peter" from India.
Lmao
Peter pronounced as "PITA"...and you will feel a lot of that in that place. (Pain In The Ass - for those not up to date on abbrevs. :D)
It’s a laptop of course it will be shit
@@trooperboii6789 Dude I game on an Acer Nitro 5 and I've yet to have any issues after over a year of use. So frankly it's probably less "all laptops bad" and more "Alienware is just plain ass."
@@trooperboii6789 Gaming laptops aren’t all shit. Asus has some solid models like the Zephyrus G series.
Why is nobody talking about how Steve nailed the "ancient aliens" meme though?
Watching Steve quote old internet memes gives me life
That’s the first thing I noticed in the video lol.
we all know the pyramids were landing platforms for goa'uld ships, nothing new.
Jaffa, KREE!
lol.
That meme reference made my day xD
I like MacGyver.
I picked up an Alienware tower from Best Buy in Nov 2016 with a 1080 GTX for $1300...thing still runs like a champ in 2022 and surprisingly has lasted longer than any PC I've ever owned...the reliability impresses me greatly!
07:34 that means "don't cry when you see the CPU cooler"
By “water cooling” they must’ve meant the tiny water molecules floating around in the air.
That's it bud. Liquid Cooled*
*Dells liquid cooling depends on the humidity of the ambient environment, and requires the user to spray water constantly into the fan.
They are doing that bullshit where they say "That means it supports it. Not comes with it".
For 1800 bucks...
I found that strange as mine was actually water cooled. Its like all their boxes probably have that printed on there and he just didnt choose the option upon purchase.
It's actually supposed to be cooled by the tears of the grandkids who just want to play without their computer burning up.
...
Man that's dark.
@@hariman7727 nice.
Saw this in the store. was just curious about the insides. Thanks for sharing 🤔
@@SaImanKayani Hello from the future future.
I saw this in Best Buy lol, I thought it looked sick and I WAS gonna drop the money on it. THANK YOU for showing me the piece of shit I’d receive.
@@TapZz_FPS Btw like 90% of prebuilt computers are shit tier like this, I would really recommend to just build pc or pay someone to build it for you at least.
@@Djuntas Well I live in Finland and most OEMs aren't great. Because they use weird mobos, weird PSUs, usually single stick of ram and very small coolers and their cases are most often very air restricted. I'm not trying to hate on prebuilt PCs and that's good that yours is doing well, but prebuilt just aren't at same quality level with aftermarket parts. Also one big downside to prebuilts are their limited upgradability. (Btw I think biggest upside of prebuilts is that the warranty covers the whole PC at once, so if it breaks you dont have to troubleshoot anything. Although some companies offer building the PC from the components you choose and then the whole PC gets warranty so I think thats still the best choice, at least if you are PC enthusiast.)
@@megapet777 Yea local laws and everything, but if you buy from an OEM in Denmark you get 2 year warranty, and IIRC even 14 days return policies.
Biggest part of doing it right is buying one with standard of the shelf parts. Mine is that 100%. A good old NZXT H400 case, Asus mobo and 970 gpu strix etc. Just very standard. I actually bought this spec, cause at that time it was cheaper to buy from them than build yourself. And now that is even more true hehe.
Anyway as I mentioned, call their support, plague them and be "that guy", annoy them, bug them, make them listen - I did that, cause I did not want their stupid AIO cooler and I also think I got a better PSU, both not as standard options on their site.
Paying $1800 to get the absolutely cheapest parts possible is already a slap in the face but when you don't even get a proper CPU cooler with it, Dell should be ashamed of them selves.
Oh god, Alienware. Things have just been downhill for this brand for the last few years.
Edit: It has occurred to me that 2006 was more than a few years ago. I feel old.
Since 2006 you mean
@@patrickpenguin8587 ...ngl, I knew that, but my mind told me that '06 wasn't that long ago. Time flies.
This computer and that case are a blast from the past. This was done right after boxes stopped being beige by default. And now, in 2021, I see another beige box with extra plastic. This is so 2004.
it started when dell bought them many years ago.
@@EasyMoneySG -_-
The fact you buy the components without telling them abs have anonymous shipping addresses makes you the GOAT. Thank you for staying true to the pc community.
Alienware: Because the concept of a functional PC is alien to us...
Honestly before being bought by Dell they weren't bad, you got a well built nice system but it was just hugely over-priced. It wasn't something that you would dislike really, when you saw the performance and they had interesting custom cases. But for having basically 5 nice custom cases at any given time you paid a 30% to 50% premium for the same internals.
@@OmniMontel You always buy alienware for looks. Even before the Dell buyout. I always laughed at alienware owners since they are the mac of the windows PC world.
@@Expertspecter agree was just saying that predell you got a half decent system as well as the looks
@@OmniMontel Agreed. That's why I equate it to Mac. Decent parts, nice looking, overpriced, and halfway gimped with software locks to keep us "plebs" from breaking everything. Lmao
This is so Gateway 2000. It even has an PSU directly over the CPU. Never thought I'd see this kind of case layout again.
Of course it made sense back then as CPU TDP was like 30W MAX before the Pentium 4 came out.
"This is lazy and cheap."
Yeah, sounds like Dell in a nutshell. 🤣
Funny that they are. Dell own Alienware line.
Trying to sell extended care warranties
Alienware's persistently good reputation, at least among the non-builder PC population, is a bit mystifying. This PC is basically the current day version of the SFF Optiplex GX series found in every office since the year 2000. The shell is slightly more ostentatious but it still looks cosmopolitan corporate-friendly by emulating the Dyson look.
Alienware is Dell.
Sounds like China in a nutshell.
That "aliens" impression caught me off guard lmao. That was hilarious.
@GOKUL V it's literally in the first 15 seconds. 0:12.
Just when you think dell can't out-dell itself, it manages to out-dell itself.
I remember 30 years ago my mother wanted to upgrade her modem in her year old Dell computer. It had an onboard modem and I needed to add one in an expansion slot. What a hassle. After looking inside that computer I was not impressed with Dell and have not touched their products since. Good to know things haven't changed much.
Dude, Thank You for this video. I literally was going to buy one of their computers. I have one in the shopping cart now waiting for me to pull the trigger. I can't say thanks enough. Life saver.
C+P from a similar post,,
Phew dodged a bullet there and then some, you are almost the sort of people these rip-off merchants target, I say almost because you are here, you've done a little (and in this case enough) research, Steve is a fantastic resource and no doubt has saved his viewers 1000s of $,£ etc.
Right from the best PC case and to everything that goes in it. :)
If you need a prebuilt, go buy from NZXT or Corsair.
@@demigo1031 I don't need a pre-built, I just have Credit with them just sitting there not being used and I do need a new computer, so was going to go that route. I will build my own like I've always done and use the credit to get accessories.
I wish this video came out in January…
The most positive thing in the review is that Snowflake makes a appearance
"Not that snowflake"
It's so hard to believe that once upon a time before being bought by Dell, Alienware made working overpriced systems. Talk about complete brand destruction. Well done Dell.
I remember having an Alienware X51 R2 for a while and I swear to god that thing killed almost every component within it
And yes it had an equally sad cooler, probably the same one
I almost bought this... I'm so glad I decided to build my own. It's not half as complicated to put together than I thought it would be.
That's where these pre-built companies make their money. They trick you into thinking you have to have a degree in computer science to build your own PC, when really its super easy and pretty much plug and play. The only real area you might get tripped up in is compatability. But there are good and easy to find resources that can help you with that. I have built probably over 100 PCs (used to do it as a side job) and i was surprised how many people thought it was too complex to learn.
that's the fun of building your own PC. When your PC turn ON and all the test went smooth without problem, you can be proud of yourself
@@lancarrancal8316 yeah then when it doesn’t turn on you don’t know which one is broken
It's literally lego pieces that fit together. A monkey could build a pc.
Yep, and compared to this crap, you will have a better motherboard and CPU cooler as well as a much, much better case.
It looks like the Dyson Hot+Cool, except the Dyson has a hole in the centre for actual air flow.
I made the mistake of buying one of these back in April. Luckily the return policy is better built than the PC itself.
Underrated
i fell a little further than you and switch the ram only to still find it was still shit
couldnt return it. :(
fortunatly i could move the parts into another pc so at least not all the money went to nothing
Honestly if anyone ever bought me an alien ware PC as a gift I would feel flat out disrespected .
what would you suggest a good gaming pc? Im trying to get a new one but dont know much about them
@@veganninja5886 all depends what kind of budget are you looking at ?
My wife did, I had her return it. Didn’t even open the box.
Whats sad is back in the day Alienware was the only big gaming pc maker. Like wayyyy back in the day.. they sold great custom pcs.. but thrn were bougjt out and turned to this
@@veganninja5886 i auggest you do research of current cpus and gpus out today. And learn whicj ones are top of the line or mid range and low end.. and go based on that for some prebuilt system.
Dont ever just go based off some company saying (gaming system) and flashy lights.
That or i suggest you learn to build a computer yourself.. its fun
Everyone who's freaking out about California "banning" Dells doesn't realize how much of a freaking favour the state is trying to do them
This. This right here!!
Yes, stay in California or move to it's wannabe sister state Colorado. They ban a low power consumption build because it's too power hungry, but allow builds with mechanical drives and high power GPUs.
They are not doing you a favor, they are controlling you and industry through regulation that is ostensibly for the greater good. In fact, it is just a sweetheart deal to reward supporters by putting them on the list of certified testers.
Just more picking of winners and losers by the government. Call it what you will, it's the definition of crony capitalism.
Dude governments banning things like that is almost never good. Come to a free state brother.
@@msromike123 Restricting individual freedom for the "greater good" seems more like communism to me, but hey, for what I know...
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You can really tell they didn't want to move past the early 2000's with a internal layout like that.
Dell / AW monitors highly rated. actual computers garbage.
Yeah, it's super weird. I have a 3418DW screen from Alienware. Super satisfied with it. But I wouldn't touch one of their desktops with a 10 foot pole.
I mean, they don't make the panels themselves.. So it's just a bit of control software mixed with a case. Typically LG or Samsung panels, depending on IPS or VA. Only real question there is how high a grade panel do they want.
no, Dell's monitor is actually poorly made.
My Alienware monitor is great the pc I will choose differently unless they turn it around
Dell monitors are fine because they source the panel from Samsung or LG, who are obviously both highly rated. But there is no point in paying a middleman unless you really like the look of the Alienware monitors, just buy directly from LG or Samsung lol.
Alienware desktops make for great air fryers tbh
Teleshopping, take notes
Yeah I lost like 30lbs using my system for breakfast lunch and dinner. Truly a blessing from Dell
We have the kfconsole for that
@@Shigazane Dell walking in, "PC MASTER RACE. We got even hotter friers than the KFC console"
@@Shigazane not yet we don’t, I’m having to heat chicken in an fan assisted oven like some sort of Neanderthal.