I emailed swift springs personally and they said springs for the 2nd gen brz/86 are coming out within the next 2 months hopefully. Can't wait for that And yes! I'm mad about the 5x100 thing. I had two sets of wheels I ended up selling because I couldn't use them anymore
I just got a 2022 BRZ limited, paid $30,460. I got it $1000 below sticker in CA . Don’t pay mark ups . I love my BRZ . Highly recommend the limited model it has suede seats , steering responsive headlights, metal pedals and a bunch more dope stuff
@@elisiolopez1391 really good credit I guess . I didn’t even try to talk them down . The saleswoman just came back and told me she was doing it $1000 below . I was ready to pay sticker price , she was very nice . Subaru of Temecula CA
My gripes are the horn, turn signals, blind spot visibility. I think the suspension compromise for the street is superb.The tire size (Pilot sports) have great feel and grip. The only thing I think I will mod is the gas pedal. I have modded all the cars I have owned for the past 30 years.
I completely agree, I can understand if you buy the premium model the tires are skinny and I’m guessing that’s the model he’s referring to. But seriously the turn signal is my biggest negative and the horn is just embarrassing.
I got my BRZ for MSRP from Sewell Subaru in DFW. If a BRZ is not MSRP report them to Subaru. If you want a GR86 good luck I give up on Toyota. I was considering a Supra. Even if I ordered it online massive markup. Was considering the GR Corolla after that its being marked up insanely for even the BASE model. Toyota can sit and spin on all their cars right now. Seriously I even had a crappy daily driver corolla to trade in. NO DICE. NFG. Toyota can F off as far as I'm concerned. They shouldn't be able to put the price MSRP they should have to put what all the dealers are selling them for. -_-
Is it engine noise through speakers? From the videos I've seen it appears to be a tube that pipes engine noise into the cabin, not a speaker. Which is it?
It's through the speakers, I disabled mine and it did improve the quality of the sound from the speakers a little bit. also if you disable the engine sound from the speaker it does make it really hard to hear the engine if you have music even a bit loud. like 18/30 loud
I bought my BRZ because it is fine the way it is and I have no desire to modify anything on it. I see so many badly modified cars that drive like complete crap. Pretty sure many car mods are mainly just a way to separate fools from their money.
Yeah, it is manageable to get a car down to MSRP. People have to use their buying power and just not pay more than that....period. Those that are sheeping out and paying mark-ups are the ones that are supporting dealer greed and abuse of car buyers. We have all the power, we need to use it.
The issue is that not many enthusiast cars are 5x100, even the WRX/STI changed to 5x114. With this car being built for track use spacers are not ideal either.
@@maperformance if you are building the car for track use changing stock hubs would be a smart thing to do anyway while everything is taken apart for brakes/suspension upgrades…..still comes down to more of a preference for wheel choice I’ve personally raced on 5x100 17” 285/35 rode great on track and off
Glad to see a clip from Cameron Hill was included. He’s an awesome TH-camr lol. I love the new brz’s and 86’s. A little underpowered for me but a great platform nonetheless. I was debating a gen 1 years ago but ended up going the WRX route. I’m now waiting for my 2022 Mustang GT to arrive from factory. Nice video MAP. Always a pleasure to watch.
Good choice 👍🏻 had a 2020 PP2 loved it but then I got rear ended. Totaled lost and here I am with a 2023 brz. Both cars are fun. Couldn’t go wrong with either or.
It is based on the impresario platform. In development videos they talk about how they started with an impreza frame and built on that and cut down until they have this
Your comments on the 5x100 bolt pattern are beyond strange, and it's almost like you don't know much about cars and we shouldn't take you seriously. Subaru have used 5x100 for the last 20 years and it's also common on Toyotas and VWs. It's well supported by many wheel brands and not even close to being a hinderance.
It's more annoying than a true issue. Most of our shop cars are 5x114.3, so it would be fun to be able to swap different wheels from all the cars to change it up!
We had a personal connection with someone at the dealer and were able to get it for MSRP. Some dealers will not sell a car for over sticker, though that is getting harder and harder to find. Be patient and widen your search and you should be able to find something at MSRP. Good luck!
I emailed swift springs personally and they said springs for the 2nd gen brz/86 are coming out within the next 2 months hopefully. Can't wait for that
And yes! I'm mad about the 5x100 thing. I had two sets of wheels I ended up selling because I couldn't use them anymore
All that stuff you asked if we wanted to see....I wanna see 😂 pls loved this video.
I just got a 2022 BRZ limited, paid $30,460. I got it $1000 below sticker in CA . Don’t pay mark ups . I love my BRZ . Highly recommend the limited model it has suede seats , steering responsive headlights, metal pedals and a bunch more dope stuff
Sounds like you got a great deal!
How did you get it for so cheap???
@@elisiolopez1391 cappin
what type of witchcraft do you practice lol
@@elisiolopez1391 really good credit I guess . I didn’t even try to talk them down . The saleswoman just came back and told me she was doing it $1000 below . I was ready to pay sticker price , she was very nice . Subaru of Temecula CA
All the cons i hear make me want it even more
This car is a monster on the track. Don't let anyone tell y'all otherwise.
We can't wait to get ours out there!
With tires costing me $2000 for my m3 I'm really considering picking up one for track duties
My 2022 BRZ is not my daily but I'm already used to the turn signals.
My gripes are the horn, turn signals, blind spot visibility. I think the suspension compromise for the street is superb.The tire size (Pilot sports) have great feel and grip. The only thing I think I will mod is the gas pedal. I have modded all the cars I have owned for the past 30 years.
I completely agree, I can understand if you buy the premium model the tires are skinny and I’m guessing that’s the model he’s referring to. But seriously the turn signal is my biggest negative and the horn is just embarrassing.
olm wide angle mirrors will fix blind spot. hella sharptone horn will fix horn sound.
Would love to see a vid on how you guys got this for close to or at msrp!
pls
I got my BRZ for MSRP from Sewell Subaru in DFW. If a BRZ is not MSRP report them to Subaru. If you want a GR86 good luck I give up on Toyota. I was considering a Supra. Even if I ordered it online massive markup. Was considering the GR Corolla after that its being marked up insanely for even the BASE model. Toyota can sit and spin on all their cars right now. Seriously I even had a crappy daily driver corolla to trade in. NO DICE. NFG. Toyota can F off as far as I'm concerned. They shouldn't be able to put the price MSRP they should have to put what all the dealers are selling them for. -_-
Is it engine noise through speakers? From the videos I've seen it appears to be a tube that pipes engine noise into the cabin, not a speaker. Which is it?
It's through the speakers, I disabled mine and it did improve the quality of the sound from the speakers a little bit. also if you disable the engine sound from the speaker it does make it really hard to hear the engine if you have music even a bit loud. like 18/30 loud
The guys at EverydayDriver got the piped in exhaust speaker turned off at the dealership.
It’s super easy to do. You just unplug a wire on the passenger side of the dash board. Takes 2 minutes
We did the same with ours!
@@maperformance Excellent
I bought my BRZ because it is fine the way it is and I have no desire to modify anything on it. I see so many badly modified cars that drive like complete crap. Pretty sure many car mods are mainly just a way to separate fools from their money.
If the BRZ 86 had the 5 improvements you brought up then Toyota wouldn't sell nearly as many Supras
Please let us know how to get the price down from dealers!
We got ours close to MSRP through connections at the dealer, it helps to know someone!
@@maperformance well I guess I'll have to get chummy with some sales rep.
Thank you guys for this video! This has given me great insight into both versions of this car ✊🏾
Glad it was helpful!
Yeah, it is manageable to get a car down to MSRP. People have to use their buying power and just not pay more than that....period. Those that are sheeping out and paying mark-ups are the ones that are supporting dealer greed and abuse of car buyers. We have all the power, we need to use it.
Saying a 5x100 lug pattern is a con is pretty stupid…nothing wrong with it and if it is an issue get spacers that change lug pattern.
The issue is that not many enthusiast cars are 5x100, even the WRX/STI changed to 5x114. With this car being built for track use spacers are not ideal either.
@@maperformance if you are building the car for track use changing stock hubs would be a smart thing to do anyway while everything is taken apart for brakes/suspension upgrades…..still comes down to more of a preference for wheel choice I’ve personally raced on 5x100 17” 285/35 rode great on track and off
@@maperformance had Tein super streets
@@maperformance v
do you guys have any ideal if a turbo aftermarket is in development ????
Hks and blitz performance
We are developing a kit right now as well!
Lets hear, we want limited slip differential video
Yeah everyone lied so much without verifying first exhaust fitment
Glad to see a clip from Cameron Hill was included. He’s an awesome TH-camr lol. I love the new brz’s and 86’s. A little underpowered for me but a great platform nonetheless. I was debating a gen 1 years ago but ended up going the WRX route. I’m now waiting for my 2022 Mustang GT to arrive from factory. Nice video MAP. Always a pleasure to watch.
Thank you!
Good choice 👍🏻 had a 2020 PP2 loved it but then I got rear ended. Totaled lost and here I am with a 2023 brz. Both cars are fun. Couldn’t go wrong with either or.
Fr tho thx looking at this for my daily at 16
Looking at it closely it seems to be a impreza platform the suspension components are very similar
We aren't sure, but that would make sense!
It is based on the impresario platform. In development videos they talk about how they started with an impreza frame and built on that and cut down until they have this
Your comments on the 5x100 bolt pattern are beyond strange, and it's almost like you don't know much about cars and we shouldn't take you seriously.
Subaru have used 5x100 for the last 20 years and it's also common on Toyotas and VWs. It's well supported by many wheel brands and not even close to being a hinderance.
It's more annoying than a true issue. Most of our shop cars are 5x114.3, so it would be fun to be able to swap different wheels from all the cars to change it up!
True, not a big issue but like myself I could share wheel tyre set ups with my other 5x114.3 cars which would have been a bonus.
Awesome thank you how about the old one
It is not "LIKE" an artificial sound enhancement. It "IS" an artificial sound enhancement.
Cant hear you over the music 😅
Need to know how to get this car msrp. Not going to pay the bullshit dealer up charge. I’ll walk it it’s more than 2k over msrp
We had a personal connection with someone at the dealer and were able to get it for MSRP. Some dealers will not sell a car for over sticker, though that is getting harder and harder to find. Be patient and widen your search and you should be able to find something at MSRP. Good luck!
I bought mine at MSRP.
I heard the brakes fade quickly during track use.
Also the stereo is terrible in my opinion
The brakes are definitely a weak point, especially after some modifications!
@@tylerbennett9794
I had a 2020 Supra Premiun and believe it or not it was worse in it.🫤
WHATS GOOOOD
damn i got rid of my civic si because of the terrible clutch feel
Unreliable
Yeah, your opinion is unreliable.
According to who?