He only wanted 3yr extension Pat messing up that's why Wade left pay that man, now he wants out and doesn't want an extension anymore! SMH Pat has to go!
No its not cuz they didn't expect to go as far as they did. Jimmy butler carried them that far and pat Riley was too cheap to provide more quality players but it's also on pat Riley himself what you expect was gonna happen if you treat players like products and you dont pay great players there money when they deserved it for carrying your team that far. He did this to Dwayne Wade. That's why star players don't go there when they free agent's
The Miami Heat is NOT going to pay over the hill players max dollars to play less than 65 games year in and year out. All these crybabies who are entitled can keep boohoo crying all they want. Jimmy Butler is all in his feelings because the Heat won't give him another two max years when he'll be over 37 when hasn't played a full year in YEARS. Btw, only ONE other team is desperate enough to do that - the Suns. So the Heat is doing what almost all the other teams are doing. And just because they refuse to make a stupid business decision does not mean they don't appreciate Jimmy Butler.
@@r2rock1 Facts. Look how my team the Sixers wasted 💰 on PG & should not have paid BS and he is way younger than. These guys need to be paid in their prime and expect payouts when they start slowing down and playing less games.
I don't know what you mean by this because it's not a sentence, but the quote is absolutely ridiculous. Comparisons in this current time are completely delusional.
It becomes a prison when you give your best years to an organisation but they do nothing to improve the roster while others in your conference get better and to add insult to injury they refuse to pay you. It's a players league these days call it soft or whatever but organisation arent being loyal the Heat have shown that so why should players be loyal to organisations that waste their prime years and the team does nothing to improve the roster but earns 4x the amount the pay you while father times comes for you?
Pat Riley is a funny guy, he forces all of these crazy work outs and standards that he didn't even hold himself to. Pat Riley was garbage at basketball, he was good during segregation in college when he was an all American but as soon as they started letting black people play he was cooked, went to the NBA and was getting obliterated 🤣🤣🤣
You sound so stupid he went to the nba and got hurt. It kills me how someone who have never worked or excelled in a skill will say another man garbage at it lol.
Interesting that you skipped over his entire coaching career ~ he established the standard… he wasn’t a good NBA player… and? What does that have to do with him establishing a standard, which he did as a coach? FTR most great coaches and GM’s weren’t great players in their respective sport. Very few.. you can probably name them on one hand…. I side with Riley on this, I’m not paying an aging player a max contract…
Pat is the one who made their private issues public... to me Pat acts publicly as if he's the owner of the heat. Pat Riley is not the owner of the heat, also Jimmy is not about to get that money from the heat, and he shouldn't that's a bad investment. What D Wade is wrong about is players wanting to come play for a GM who acts as if he's the owner of the team and who is as firm as Pat is. We all remember how the heat did you wrong D Wade & no awful looking statue will make us forget that, then Pat took Lebron's cookies off the team plane being petty during a contract year. Now they are suspending jimmy for 7 games for saying he doesn't feel the same joy for the game of basketball he once did. Who would want to play for a man who's shown nothing but an iron fist, pettiness and disrespect publicly to his players during what's supposed to be private moments. I personal think Pat is the way because of how magic and the captain use to treat him during his time in LA. The bullied becomes the bully, but hey what do I know good luck to all parties involved.
LeBron wanted his entourage to travel on the team plane, Riley said no. LeBron went to Cleveland because Dan Gilbert gave him control of the team. He left the team in shambles that's why Gilbert hates him.
Or ever if you a star player especially at or past 30 would you really go there when pat just gonna leave you hanging after all you did for his team? Hell na.
@@fredr3247 Pat Riley has a job to do and Jimmy Butler can go get his money elsewhere. 50 Mill a year is crazy for a star especially if the market starts to recover and that money becomes more valuable.
@@SmoothCriminalxDyou said pat has a job to do right? Well he hasn’t been doing it since 2020. Jimmy was asking for help since that moment and pat did nothing. Then jimmy goes on to take them to another finals appearance. If pat was good at his job he would have gotten someone to help or trade jimmy because his value was high.
The problem with these scenarios is aging players past their primes with egos and expectations caring about the 💵💰 instead of the future of the organization. Wade, PG, Lebron, Jimmy and Kobe want to remain controlling of the team, won’t relinquish PT to allow other guys to grow and hamstring the team growth financially. Riley & other GM’s have to keep the ship going long after these dudes are gone. Try and leave the organization in a solid position after your gone because your leaving soon. Wade wanted a lot, got it from the Bulls and was unhappy. Heat still a good team and has had success long after Wade and these other dudes left. It is not all about you. Lebron needs to start dialing it back so those other dudes the Laker future can help the team succeed. Jimmy is not worth the amount he wants for that extension.
Exactly! Kobe extension was worth it! It was his final years and he was still an amazing player up until the Achilles tear, plus he was a cash cow, the opponents games was most sold out when Kobe and the lakers came to town and he was most popular basketball player in China, Europe and other foreign countries so don’t forget how much Kobe meant to basketball, 32-35M’s is nothing for the lakers to had pay Kobe back then
Gilbert Arenas don't even have the resume to question a pat riley. New York Knicks haven't even been as successful as they were with Pat Riley... they are now starting to become relevant again but still haven't even reached the heights that they did with Pat Riley... again Gilbert Arenas don't have the resume to question about Riley he needs to stop... that's the problem these days everyone wants to have a podcast and just talk
Dude have the worst set of takes and you could tell the majority of people can’t stand he by his comment section, Gil is like the slow confident kid that you laugh at and Shake your head at from time to time
Tim Hardaway is just taking up for Miami but people have eyes everything that Paul Pierce say was the truth. Everything that Gilbert Arenas is saying it’s the truth especially Jimmy Butler took them guys to the championship a couple of times with no help and then you get Tim Hardaway come on and say someone jealous people can see Tim Hardaway it’s the truth what Gilbert Arenas saying and what Paul Pierce is saying
What? 😂 Jimmy got paid $45m last year, missed a quarter of the regular season and all post season. This year he want $49m... and next $52 m. Question, as much as he gave to the Heat franchise (in the past)... you're willing to take that risk, and pay that!? You Bobo the fool
Gilberto Arenas & Paul Peirce could never be Heat players they have idiot moronic mentalities & are losers overall Peirce is just saved by KG & Ray Allen & Rondo!!
What people keep ignoring Pat Riley is not the owner! Pat Riley has a boss!Most people overlook the owner is the one who controls the $$$! This is much as people make this personal,business decisions are made everyday
@@Donaldson7185 Have u ever been on the "inside"? They have experience from being on the "inside". I know that everything that they said it was hard for u to comprehend.
He’s absolutely correct, if they don’t make a statement by firing some of the FO and keeping Jimmy, that ship sinks slowly. They need a refresh from Riley (force his Retirement Mickey!!)
Nobody forces any of these players to sign that contract! Jimmy stans want to paint the narrative that he’s being victimized 😂 the man has a player option next season !
That's what I say if he's so unhappy why not just quit basketball go play in a park. He's salty bc he wants a new contract amd they don't give him one which I wouldn't give he one either
For a whole 51M everybody talking like they ain’t already set Jimmy Butler up good! And he’s no longer producing good numbers for the team, I watched a few games against certain teams and dude struggling to get over 15 Points on a regular I’m like damn! This dude like he ain’t focus on basketball
@@SYFDADFIMCits on both of them. Pat don't understand there's certain people you dont treat and act like that with Jimmy butler has a unpredictable personality.
Pat Riley Forever. True Heat Fans know Pat Riley is the greatest thing in Miami Sport him and wade is the reason we were able to win our first championship
LeBron wasn't chasing rings, he was chasing power..which is what Gilbert gave him and ruined the team in the process... It took many years to get relevant.That's why Gilbert wants nothing to do with him. The Lakers are in the same boat
Why don’t they stop all that crying, this not the first time this have happen,hell the Bulls broke up a championship team . The heat haven’t won a championship with Butler , none of them was done as dirty as the Bulls players.
@@albryant-b7k I mean that’s part of what Pierce and Arenas is saying. You went to the finals with a lil above average team. Instead of adding a major piece to help you actually win it. You do the exact opposite. Sure Jimmy may be mad about not getting paid but I think he (Jimmy) knows that Miami is not going to add no top tier guy because of money and that means no Championship.
@ That’s right no championship hell Jordan gave the Bulls 6 and showed him who own the team. I’m just saying it happens in sports all the time, he’s not the first and he want be the last to get shown the door.
@ yeah you right about that. Look at NE with Brady, GSW with Klay, I hate when say players has no loyalty to their team but these teams show no loyalty to the players.
D Wade wanted more money than Pat Riley was willing to give! Any player would want more or the same amount of money as they’re currently getting, that don’t mean Teams should just give them this ridiculous amount of money when they could spread it around and if I’m running an organisation/company and I want for you to do this, this and that, because I’m paying you millions!!! Then you do what I asked of you or leave! I was getting paid £11 a hour to cut, wrap & pack/load carpet all day on my feet for 8 hours! I’m doing that for £11 imagine if I was getting £1000! I would still have to do my job as professional. So if Pat wants you to be a certain body fat, and not allowed you to bring junk and snacks on the team plane (LeBron) then so be it! You can eat those things at home! And on your own time! I can’t stand these entitled basketball players!
@@l.r9655 bruh why do you care about that??? Your job can do the same thing to you🤦🏾♂️🙄we have gotten so entitled in life that these millionaires really got y’all feeling sorry for them😂😂😂it’s actually sad bc they don’t give af if you get your raise but here you are in the comments mad bc a organization didn’t give a millionaire millions 😂😂make it make sense
Paul Pierce gave us Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown that won another chip without him and Garnett we wouldn't got them picks if you don't know basketball then don't talk please
"You ran dwade out of town of all people after he won you your first championship" doesn't sound like hate sounds like a peer giving props to his opponent & defending the critizism of Riley's treatment of star players using D, Shaq, LeBron etc. as examples to clarifiy the point Tim Sr. and D Wade took those words out of context imo
Wade and peirce are both right. Someone will take a max but it won't the the person they want. If you have a brand and career then you need to have control over your destiny so pat is gonna scare you off like Shaq and LeBron
As a heat fan they not lying pat still stuck on that 80’s and 90’s mentality. Jimmy been asking for another star for 3-4 years and pat ain’t did nothing, I feel jimmy you want me to lead this team with no help well pay me like a superstar then
I'm being a bit FACETIOUS when I say this, but when you selling a cup of coffee for $5,000.00, you just money greedy. And the love of money is the root of ALL evil."
I will not speak on the Jimmy Butler situation because its two side to every story and i dont agree with how the situation with D Wade was handled. But was i do understand is hard work and professionalism and these young players need to learn both. Riley is old school. With him its about structure, responsibility. Playing in the NBA is a blessing, and a privilege. These young are about self. Championships mean nothing . How much money they can make and being a superstar is the priorty.
It's hard to admit the problem is Pat Riley when he runs the organization. But Pat Riley is the Jerry Jones of the NBA but without Jerry Jones clout. He's the problem
The Miami Heat's culture is professionalism. Players are required to do their job. They are required to be in shape to do their job. After all, their job is based upon their physical performance. That's it. Most players don't adhere to these requirements. So, they balk at these things. They don't watch film. They don't stay in shape. They good off in practice. They keep an enterage with them, even in the locker room. These things are not acceptable in Heat culture, because these things are not professional. Arenas was not professional. Of course he would balk at Heat Culture. Pierce felt that he could get away with anything and do whatever he wanted, so of course he would balk at Heat Culture. Both wanted max money until their retirement. They felt entitled to it, so of course they feel that a hustle player should get the max until he's 39 and hamstring an entire organization the way they did.
Its crazy how they're blaming Pat, but Jimmy has done this to every team. I can say Pat messed up sentimental wise, but team wise he's done whats best for the team. Its crazy how your not making correct moves, but make it to the the playoffs every year. Every team wants to make moves, but other teams has to want to make those moves as well. You can put any trade in your emotional mind all you want, doesnt mean other teams have to do it......
Miami is getting to that Point were it is not A place where Big Free agents are going to... If Dallas, Orlando, Chicago, Miami... Truth be Told Miami is last to be picked on Most FA Lists...
Why is Wade saying we? He is owns part of the Jazz focus on that. If they are so loyal, Pat should have helped him get an ownership stake in Miami. Instead he got a troll statue lol 😂
If you had stakes in the Miami heat and pat comes to you and said they need you to give up your stake so d wade can have it are you doing it😂😂 why are you kids commenting your brain is still undeveloped 🤦♂️ you want to treat life like nba 2k😂😂😂
@@space3058 Same way Magi was allowed to buy a small part of the Lakers from Jerry Bus. Rumor has it that Jeanie Bus was trying help Kobe get an ownership stake too. If Wade is heat culture they would have given him the opportunity to buy into the company. He only owns 1% of the Jazz are you telling me they couldn’t have worked out the same deal in Miami? Especially the man responsible for you first championship?! It’s like people beefing over a block they don’t own…if He so close to the Heat pick up the phone and call Jimmy or call Pat? Pat’s ego has grown too big for his shadow. That’s the real problem.
The Heat will draft th4 right guys for them and they will win again. They are over achievers and will be as long as Pat Riley is around. They are an organization to be admired and to be copied. Pat performed miracles with the knicks, he won with players with less talent but hard workers.
You said DWade should’ve never been a Cleveland Cavalier in 2017 which I agree but Wade career was influx after leaving Miami. I must highlight you neglected to mention that DWade signed with his hometown Chicago Bulls after leaving Miami in 2016 before he arrived in Cleveland to join LeBron. You also said that Jimmy Butler and DWade are Miami Heat "brothers" but even though they didn’t play at Marquette they have Marquette thing . They could've played at Marquette together because DWade (43) is 8 years old than Jimmy Butler (35). Not only did you not mentioned that Wade signed with the Chicago Bulls in 2016. You totally buried the lead by forgetting Wade and Butler were teammates with the Bulls for one season before DWade joined Lebron in Cleveland in 2017. I would respectfully ask before doing a reaction video do some quick research so you don't miss valuable puzzle pieces. Be better!!!
Heat Nation does not agree with Gil and we for sure dont agree with Pierce #1 Heat Hater. Butler did become the face of the franchise for a few years and he got paid every penny for being that. We are talking about an extension not about Butler not getting paid. He got paid and got paid alot which he did deserve for his efforts in getting us into the post season and into the finals a few times. He got paid though, thats the key, Pat paid him. So ppl need to stop acting like this is all on Pat. But I do agree with Wade when he closed with............Its Pats show. Pat runs the Heat. Mickey owns the Heat. Butler works for the Heat, he signed a contract, he still has 50 million for next season. What are we really talking about?
All Gilbert knows how to do is out-yell anybody. What he excels at is disrespecting players and coaches from the past. Butler doesn’t respect authority which is typical of today
Yeah right lol y’all forgetting Kyrie wanted to be traded to Miami, dame wanted to be traded to Miami, now Bradley Beal wants to be traded to Miami, hell even Embiid hinted at it. This is a messy situation for sure but don’t use this spat to discredit the organization. This is what people did with Kawhi and the spurs as well. One issue with Kawhi now the spurs is a bad organization, yeah right
I totally disagree with you sir and Paul Pierce,, D. Wade even understood, No one man is bigger then the team. You see 👀 now the younger generation is getting softer and softer. But no one really want to address the real elephant in the room.....
Pat Riley is a control freak. Done Jimmy, Shaq and LeBron dirty. He did D-Wade dirty. Yet Wade and Tim Hardaway still defends him. All Jimmy asked was to add more key pieces to bring a championship back to Miami.
The MIAMI HEAT is a Team. If you run the TEAM, you do what’s best for the TEAM. You don’t hand out MAX DEALS to 33.34.35 year old Washed up Star. When it’s time to move on it’s time to move on. Jimmy got TWO years left… Now he’s pouting cause Pat don’t see a 60 mil a year player TWO YEARS FROM NOW.
@ If they did what was best for the TEAM, then you would’ve made some moves and added more talent to get you over the hump and win that Chip. But because you want to do what’s best for the TEAM, you believe that I don’t need to add a top tier player to win even though all your championships that you have was because you paid top tier players to win it all. Pat is only saying no to Jimmy is because his boss (Micky Arison) has said no to paying him. So are they doing it for the TEAM or are they doing it to not to pay Jimmy and save a lil couple mil in Arison’s pocket?
@@TeezyfolKKzJimmy gave you everything that he had in those runs. Riley didn’t do his job by added an extra major piece to that team. No team in the history of sports has won a championship without multiple stars on your team. Jimmy was the only perennial all star and instead they lost key role players and expected Jimmy to lead them to the championship.
@ and he was paid max $$ to do so. Riley did more than his job surrounding Butler with players that have thrived in the league. This generation is used to Bron’s whiny approach to winning. That’s why it’s a constant call for multiple stars on 1 team.
This ain’t it. Cause it was exactly why Jimmy came to Miami. The Culture. But it was the city itself that has gotten Jimmy distracted. He will regret this after his career. It’s about maturity. Every last player that had issues about contracts when players have come back in some capacity to give flowers and make amends. The Heat is a grown man’s ball club. You’re either mature enough to handle it or you’re not. And the Heat will only attract those who are world class. The ones allergic to it need to stay away
I already paid you for what you did/doing! I even give you a player option to opt in for for another year at 51M if you want. You want me to give you a 3 year extension with a 5% increase on the money I’m already giving you?! Hell No! He ain’t even producing 51-55M’s worth of production on the court now! Why would any GM with sense give him an extension! You either work out a new deal for around 30M or I would gladly get rid of him! Teams needs to take back their power from these spoil rotten entitled players!
But I think is Pat Riley ain't do nothing wrong except for not get that man no help when he needed to and some of that was done by the NBA when it came to Damian Lillard now Jimmy Butler the way he's handling it is a completely wrong when somebody tells you no and you get mad and go sit in the corner because you can't get what you want that's how you act come on man people starting to get soft I think Jimmy soft he wants to go play in Phoenix with them softies so that just lets you know how it is and he's gotten the best treatment out of any star so if anybody's wrong in a lot of ways is Jimmy but we won't make the player look wrong we'll make the organization look bad That's how we operate in this world nowadays The person that tells you know is the one that looks bad the person that says yes over there all good until you request the trade and still be in a contract how does that work please tell me cuz that's what KD and LeBron and all them have done
Wait one damn minute!! Y’all musta forgot the Michael friggin Jordan ended his career in Washington DC on the wizards!!! Stop using that DWade situation as some sort of argument against the Heat. Stop the foolishness
Dude he makes 55 million dollars a year and he's 36 years old Do your job what's complicated about that
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Primadonna of mentalities of these American NBA "Stars" always gets in the way of running a Professional Basketball Club/ Franchise. They are PAID to play Basketball and not run an organization. Soft as heck and very ungrateful for their opportunity.
Gilbert be loud and sound like he’s smart a say some of the most dumbest takes ever and he know it might get a response so he can respond to the response
If you owned a huge business, would you let one money greedy employee make a 100-times more than the other employees? So, you now understand why Pat Riley is the Godfather of the Miami Heat basketball organization's Front Office. Miss me with your ignorance.
Both can be true.. the hair and suits is not just a style. Conveniently he has coached in all 3 cities “the families” run. They have been in plain sight all along.. Pitino, carlesimo, calipari, massemino , carneseca, Auerbach, etc, etc.
If frer agents dont wanna go to miami bc of jimmy that means they wont go the Chicago or Minnesota either i aint saying jimmy wrong he just gotta track record
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They act like Jimmy Butler 25🤦🏿♂️dude 35 with maybe 3 good years left. This is such a waste of a topic.
Not a waste of topic when Jimmy’s taken them to the finals 2x in the last 6 years it’s very relevant and he still has game left
@@tamirarmour6349 thank you for that comment
@@tamirarmour6349 Facts! By himself with no superstars. @Stoneygreat better put some respect on that man
He only wanted 3yr extension Pat messing up that's why Wade left pay that man, now he wants out and doesn't want an extension anymore! SMH Pat has to go!
No its not cuz they didn't expect to go as far as they did. Jimmy butler carried them that far and pat Riley was too cheap to provide more quality players but it's also on pat Riley himself what you expect was gonna happen if you treat players like products and you dont pay great players there money when they deserved it for carrying your team that far. He did this to Dwayne Wade. That's why star players don't go there when they free agent's
The Miami Heat is NOT going to pay over the hill players max dollars to play less than 65 games year in and year out. All these crybabies who are entitled can keep boohoo crying all they want. Jimmy Butler is all in his feelings because the Heat won't give him another two max years when he'll be over 37 when hasn't played a full year in YEARS. Btw, only ONE other team is desperate enough to do that - the Suns. So the Heat is doing what almost all the other teams are doing. And just because they refuse to make a stupid business decision does not mean they don't appreciate Jimmy Butler.
Miami heat ain't winning shit this century
@@r2rock1 Facts. Look how my team the Sixers wasted 💰 on PG & should not have paid BS and he is way younger than. These guys need to be paid in their prime and expect payouts when they start slowing down and playing less games.
@@jordankelley9181and they ain't winning in years
YO, seriously I could not have said that better myself 💯
@@jordankelley9181Neither is Butler 🤷🏽♀️
"Treat southbeach like a prison" Powerful and self-evaluation statement
I don't know what you mean by this because it's not a sentence, but the quote is absolutely ridiculous. Comparisons in this current time are completely delusional.
It becomes a prison when you give your best years to an organisation but they do nothing to improve the roster while others in your conference get better and to add insult to injury they refuse to pay you. It's a players league these days call it soft or whatever but organisation arent being loyal the Heat have shown that so why should players be loyal to organisations that waste their prime years and the team does nothing to improve the roster but earns 4x the amount the pay you while father times comes for you?
Damn sure was.
Gilbert was not lying
Pat Riley is a funny guy, he forces all of these crazy work outs and standards that he didn't even hold himself to. Pat Riley was garbage at basketball, he was good during segregation in college when he was an all American but as soon as they started letting black people play he was cooked, went to the NBA and was getting obliterated 🤣🤣🤣
@@jetshark970shark4 you tweekin.
Lmao 😂 I never thought about this but desegregation definitely ran a lot of white student athletes out the gym 😂 crazy
You sound so stupid he went to the nba and got hurt. It kills me how someone who have never worked or excelled in a skill will say another man garbage at it lol.
Europeans run the NBA now
Interesting that you skipped over his entire coaching career ~ he established the standard… he wasn’t a good NBA player… and? What does that have to do with him establishing a standard, which he did as a coach?
FTR most great coaches and GM’s weren’t great players in their respective sport.
Very few.. you can probably name them on one hand….
I side with Riley on this, I’m not paying an aging player a max contract…
Pat is the one who made their private issues public... to me Pat acts publicly as if he's the owner of the heat. Pat Riley is not the owner of the heat, also Jimmy is not about to get that money from the heat, and he shouldn't that's a bad investment. What D Wade is wrong about is players wanting to come play for a GM who acts as if he's the owner of the team and who is as firm as Pat is. We all remember how the heat did you wrong D Wade & no awful looking statue will make us forget that, then Pat took Lebron's cookies off the team plane being petty during a contract year. Now they are suspending jimmy for 7 games for saying he doesn't feel the same joy for the game of basketball he once did. Who would want to play for a man who's shown nothing but an iron fist, pettiness and disrespect publicly to his players during what's supposed to be private moments. I personal think Pat is the way because of how magic and the captain use to treat him during his time in LA. The bullied becomes the bully, but hey what do I know good luck to all parties involved.
LeBron wanted his entourage to travel on the team plane, Riley said no. LeBron went to Cleveland because Dan Gilbert gave him control of the team. He left the team in shambles that's why Gilbert hates him.
It’s time for Jimmy to go
Yes, I agree 100%. He's being a cancer to the team's chemistry.
@@JStyle271what team chemistry Miami is shit on a stick
Facts! He’s not the Jimmy they signed and paid, he became plait hair/goth hair jimmy & zesty Jimmy!
D.Wade make a lot of sense, Pat Riley should admit his mistakes because Miami Heat will not recover soon.
Or ever if you a star player especially at or past 30 would you really go there when pat just gonna leave you hanging after all you did for his team? Hell na.
@@fredr3247 Pat Riley has a job to do and Jimmy Butler can go get his money elsewhere. 50 Mill a year is crazy for a star especially if the market starts to recover and that money becomes more valuable.
@@SmoothCriminalxDyou said pat has a job to do right? Well he hasn’t been doing it since 2020. Jimmy was asking for help since that moment and pat did nothing. Then jimmy goes on to take them to another finals appearance. If pat was good at his job he would have gotten someone to help or trade jimmy because his value was high.
The problem with these scenarios is aging players past their primes with egos and expectations caring about the 💵💰 instead of the future of the organization. Wade, PG, Lebron, Jimmy and Kobe want to remain controlling of the team, won’t relinquish PT to allow other guys to grow and hamstring the team growth financially. Riley & other GM’s have to keep the ship going long after these dudes are gone. Try and leave the organization in a solid position after your gone because your leaving soon. Wade wanted a lot, got it from the Bulls and was unhappy. Heat still a good team and has had success long after Wade and these other dudes left. It is not all about you. Lebron needs to start dialing it back so those other dudes the Laker future can help the team succeed. Jimmy is not worth the amount he wants for that extension.
Exactly! Kobe extension was worth it! It was his final years and he was still an amazing player up until the Achilles tear, plus he was a cash cow, the opponents games was most sold out when Kobe and the lakers came to town and he was most popular basketball player in China, Europe and other foreign countries so don’t forget how much Kobe meant to basketball, 32-35M’s is nothing for the lakers to had pay Kobe back then
We love Tim Hardaway. Miami Goat
Pierce got personal vendetta agaisnt the heat 😆
No Star Player wanted to play with Jimmy Butler. Kyle Lowry was the only semi-good player who wanted to play with him but that's it.
Kyle was trash 😂😂😂
Gilbert Arenas don't even have the resume to question a pat riley. New York Knicks haven't even been as successful as they were with Pat Riley... they are now starting to become relevant again but still haven't even reached the heights that they did with Pat Riley... again Gilbert Arenas don't have the resume to question about Riley he needs to stop... that's the problem these days everyone wants to have a podcast and just talk
Dude have the worst set of takes and you could tell the majority of people can’t stand he by his comment section, Gil is like the slow confident kid that you laugh at and Shake your head at from time to time
Tim Hardaway is just taking up for Miami but people have eyes everything that Paul Pierce say was the truth. Everything that Gilbert Arenas is saying it’s the truth especially Jimmy Butler took them guys to the championship a couple of times with no help and then you get Tim Hardaway come on and say someone jealous people can see Tim Hardaway it’s the truth what Gilbert Arenas saying and what Paul Pierce is saying
Exactly
Ain’t nobody with sense giving Butler a max deal at 35 y/o. Get the fuck out of here!
What? 😂 Jimmy got paid $45m last year, missed a quarter of the regular season and all post season. This year he want $49m... and next $52 m. Question, as much as he gave to the Heat franchise (in the past)... you're willing to take that risk, and pay that!? You Bobo the fool
@Stanky_Grass as opposed to who? They lying who wants to go there? Dame didn't go nor Giannis went. So what player is going to South Beach?
Gilberto Arenas & Paul Peirce could never be Heat players they have idiot moronic mentalities & are losers overall Peirce is just saved by KG & Ray Allen & Rondo!!
I wish I would let an employee run my company. They not cutting no checks.
You mean Pat or Jimmy? Because Pat isn’t even an real owner 😂
What people keep ignoring Pat Riley is not the owner! Pat Riley has a boss!Most people overlook the owner is the one who controls the $$$! This is much as people make this personal,business decisions are made everyday
@@chrisneal5698 FACTS. The owner has the final say
Arenas & Pierce spoke nothing but facts & Wade sitting there tap dancing for his massa & Pat didn't give a damn about him neither.
Touchdown!!!!
Feelings and opinions aren’t facts.
Lol Pierce and arenas gave their opinion.They didn't give any facts . They are not on the inside .
@@Donaldson7185 Have u ever been on the "inside"? They have experience from being on the "inside". I know that everything that they said it was hard for u to comprehend.
@@mobrown1198 Thats your opinion!
😅😅😅
He’s absolutely correct, if they don’t make a statement by firing some of the FO and keeping Jimmy, that ship sinks slowly. They need a refresh from Riley (force his Retirement Mickey!!)
Nobody forces any of these players to sign that contract! Jimmy stans want to paint the narrative that he’s being victimized 😂 the man has a player option next season !
That's what I say if he's so unhappy why not just quit basketball go play in a park. He's salty bc he wants a new contract amd they don't give him one which I wouldn't give he one either
For a whole 51M everybody talking like they ain’t already set Jimmy Butler up good! And he’s no longer producing good numbers for the team, I watched a few games against certain teams and dude struggling to get over 15 Points on a regular I’m like damn! This dude like he ain’t focus on basketball
Jimmy took it to the streets. that was the unprofessional.
Shut up
Pat Riley took it there when he openly told Jimmy to shut up. Pat gotta take accountability too.
@@SYFDADFIMCits on both of them. Pat don't understand there's certain people you dont treat and act like that with Jimmy butler has a unpredictable personality.
I'm sorry could somebody update me what has Gilbert arenas won at all ever???
Gil just loud mouth
You don't need a ring to talk about this. Aren't you talking about it? Are you a dummy?
@@nohonoramgstthieves He's a loudmouth who got buckets on your favorite players. Stop devaluing these qualified men when you don't have a resume. STFU
@@jauharilee7496 he talks like he that only one that knows how things work
@@jauharilee7496 This pays his bills now. He's a shock jock for the NBA
Paul do have a vendetta against the Miami Heat. K.G called him out on that. So that's fact
Nba and nba media is full emotional ahh dudes
You’re right about Van Gundy but Pat Riley has a resume.
glad they didnt give DWade his money. He had to beg Pat to come back
Didn’t Butler did the same thing in Minnesota?! Didn’t he complain about the 76ers organization?! Why?!?!
People can’t comment if it stays in house, pat riley invited the public in when he suspended jimmy butler
He actually invited it at exit interview last year when Riley told Jimmy to stfu if you not on the court playing. And Riley wasn't wrong.
@@bighek561dead wrong you don't talk to grown men like that. Tf wrong with you?
@@bighek561and that's part of the reason nobody wants to go
100% Wade, is trying to play both sides. 🤷🏾♂️
Actually he did it last year when he told him to shut up
Pat Riley Forever. True Heat Fans know Pat Riley is the greatest thing in Miami Sport him and wade is the reason we were able to win our first championship
Pat Riley didn't chase LeBron away, LeBron went off chasing rings like he always does when his team loses the championship
LeBron wasn't chasing rings, he was chasing power..which is what Gilbert gave him and ruined the team in the process... It took many years to get relevant.That's why Gilbert wants nothing to do with him. The Lakers are in the same boat
Why don’t they stop all that crying, this not the first time this have happen,hell the Bulls broke up a championship team . The heat haven’t won a championship with Butler , none of them was done as dirty as the Bulls players.
@@albryant-b7k I mean that’s part of what Pierce and Arenas is saying. You went to the finals with a lil above average team. Instead of adding a major piece to help you actually win it. You do the exact opposite. Sure Jimmy may be mad about not getting paid but I think he (Jimmy) knows that Miami is not going to add no top tier guy because of money and that means no Championship.
@ That’s right no championship hell Jordan gave the Bulls 6 and showed him who own the team. I’m just saying it happens in sports all the time, he’s not the first and he want be the last to get shown the door.
@ yeah you right about that. Look at NE with Brady, GSW with Klay, I hate when say players has no loyalty to their team but these teams show no loyalty to the players.
The entitlement of these athletes like 50Ms isnt enough to play hard
So if a slave gets fed he should be happy?
Treat south beach like its a prison 😂not lying.
D Wade wanted more money than Pat Riley was willing to give! Any player would want more or the same amount of money as they’re currently getting, that don’t mean Teams should just give them this ridiculous amount of money when they could spread it around and if I’m running an organisation/company and I want for you to do this, this and that, because I’m paying you millions!!! Then you do what I asked of you or leave! I was getting paid £11 a hour to cut, wrap & pack/load carpet all day on my feet for 8 hours! I’m doing that for £11 imagine if I was getting £1000! I would still have to do my job as professional. So if Pat wants you to be a certain body fat, and not allowed you to bring junk and snacks on the team plane (LeBron) then so be it! You can eat those things at home! And on your own time! I can’t stand these entitled basketball players!
Paul Pierce didn’t play out his career in Boston! I know that the NBA is not as good because the players are running the league in the ground!
Yep, all that crying and complaining but getting millions to play basketball is crazy !!
Yet the Billionaire Organization can trade and release players all the time and it's ok . Rightttt😂
@@l.r9655 bruh why do you care about that??? Your job can do the same thing to you🤦🏾♂️🙄we have gotten so entitled in life that these millionaires really got y’all feeling sorry for them😂😂😂it’s actually sad bc they don’t give af if you get your raise but here you are in the comments mad bc a organization didn’t give a millionaire millions 😂😂make it make sense
Paul Pierce gave us Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown that won another chip without him and Garnett we wouldn't got them picks if you don't know basketball then don't talk please
Paul pierce was traded he didn’t ask out
"You ran dwade out of town of all people after he won you your first championship" doesn't sound like hate sounds like a peer giving props to his opponent & defending the critizism of Riley's treatment of star players using D, Shaq, LeBron etc. as examples to clarifiy the point Tim Sr. and D Wade took those words out of context imo
Gilbert is a CLOWN!! No championships and he’s speaking about being a champion! No superstardom and being about superstars!! STAY IN YOUR LANE!!
Wade and peirce are both right. Someone will take a max but it won't the the person they want. If you have a brand and career then you need to have control over your destiny so pat is gonna scare you off like Shaq and LeBron
As a heat fan they not lying pat still stuck on that 80’s and 90’s mentality. Jimmy been asking for another star for 3-4 years and pat ain’t did nothing, I feel jimmy you want me to lead this team with no help well pay me like a superstar then
What other team has the good example to follow
Wade should focus on making sure he has a better statue before defending Miami.
Wade is right
I'm being a bit FACETIOUS when I say this, but when you selling a cup of coffee for $5,000.00, you just money greedy. And the love of money is the root of ALL evil."
At the coffee shop that opens at 9am
Wade is wrong. If Miami is gonna pay a player 300 million then another team will also. Today's stars are too soft and pampered to handle Riley.
It’s always the Gilbert Arenas of the world talking the most and the loudest. Humptu dumpty ass
I will not speak on the Jimmy Butler situation because its two side to every story and i dont agree with how the situation with D Wade was handled. But was i do understand is hard work and professionalism and these young players need to learn both. Riley is old school. With him its about structure, responsibility. Playing in the NBA is a blessing, and a privilege. These young are about self. Championships mean nothing . How much money they can make and being a superstar is the priorty.
It's hard to admit the problem is Pat Riley when he runs the organization. But Pat Riley is the Jerry Jones of the NBA but without Jerry Jones clout. He's the problem
The Miami Heat's culture is professionalism. Players are required to do their job. They are required to be in shape to do their job. After all, their job is based upon their physical performance.
That's it. Most players don't adhere to these requirements. So, they balk at these things. They don't watch film. They don't stay in shape. They good off in practice. They keep an enterage with them, even in the locker room. These things are not acceptable in Heat culture, because these things are not professional.
Arenas was not professional. Of course he would balk at Heat Culture. Pierce felt that he could get away with anything and do whatever he wanted, so of course he would balk at Heat Culture. Both wanted max money until their retirement. They felt entitled to it, so of course they feel that a hustle player should get the max until he's 39 and hamstring an entire organization the way they did.
They are correct the heat looking bad
Its crazy how they're blaming Pat, but Jimmy has done this to every team. I can say Pat messed up sentimental wise, but team wise he's done whats best for the team. Its crazy how your not making correct moves, but make it to the the playoffs every year. Every team wants to make moves, but other teams has to want to make those moves as well. You can put any trade in your emotional mind all you want, doesnt mean other teams have to do it......
Paul Pierce in Gilbert Arenas are just jealous that’s all.
Miami is getting to that Point were it is not A place where Big Free agents are going to...
If Dallas, Orlando, Chicago, Miami... Truth be Told Miami is last to be picked on Most FA Lists...
Wade madd about them talking about zaya
Wade need to handle his son first before fighting with anyone
@@yungmanrumble agreed
Don't talk about someone's kid on here like that. The subject got nothing to do with his kid. That's their business wether people agree or disagree
U worried about the wrong thing if u bringing up people kids in a basketball conversation
Jimmy butler has had all gassed for years.
Paul Pierce has a point tho that of he had shaq, lebron, etc he would've won more just like wade.
Dwayne wade..cut that my son is a girl now ish now..Trump coming to shut all that shit downnnnn
His son is a girl. Nothing is getting shut down.
idk what that has to do with this topic
Has nothing to do with basketball. SMH moron
Jimmy on his 4th team , how could yall not see he is the problem?
Why is Wade saying we? He is owns part of the Jazz focus on that. If they are so loyal, Pat should have helped him get an ownership stake in Miami. Instead he got a troll statue lol 😂
If you had stakes in the Miami heat and pat comes to you and said they need you to give up your stake so d wade can have it are you doing it😂😂 why are you kids commenting your brain is still undeveloped 🤦♂️ you want to treat life like nba 2k😂😂😂
Talk what you know. Wade is Heat culture so he has every right to say what he’s saying
Exactly !!!!!!!!
@@space3058 Same way Magi was allowed to buy a small part of the Lakers from Jerry Bus. Rumor has it that Jeanie Bus was trying help Kobe get an ownership stake too. If Wade is heat culture they would have given him the opportunity to buy into the company. He only owns 1% of the Jazz are you telling me they couldn’t have worked out the same deal in Miami? Especially the man responsible for you first championship?! It’s like people beefing over a block they don’t own…if He so close to the Heat pick up the phone and call Jimmy or call Pat? Pat’s ego has grown too big for his shadow. That’s the real problem.
Its Wade County enough said!
I stand with Pat
The Heat will draft th4 right guys for them and they will win again. They are over achievers and will be as long as Pat Riley is around. They are an organization to be admired and to be copied. Pat performed miracles with the knicks, he won with players with less talent but hard workers.
You said DWade should’ve never been a Cleveland Cavalier in 2017 which I agree but Wade career was influx after leaving Miami. I must highlight you neglected to mention that DWade signed with his hometown Chicago Bulls after leaving Miami in 2016 before he arrived in Cleveland to join LeBron. You also said that Jimmy Butler and DWade are Miami Heat "brothers" but even though they didn’t play at Marquette they have Marquette thing . They could've played at Marquette together because DWade (43) is 8 years old than Jimmy Butler (35). Not only did you not mentioned that Wade signed with the Chicago Bulls in 2016. You totally buried the lead by forgetting Wade and Butler were teammates with the Bulls for one season before DWade joined Lebron in Cleveland in 2017. I would respectfully ask before doing a reaction video do some quick research so you don't miss valuable puzzle pieces. Be better!!!
Heat Nation does not agree with Gil and we for sure dont agree with Pierce #1 Heat Hater. Butler did become the face of the franchise for a few years and he got paid every penny for being that. We are talking about an extension not about Butler not getting paid. He got paid and got paid alot which he did deserve for his efforts in getting us into the post season and into the finals a few times. He got paid though, thats the key, Pat paid him. So ppl need to stop acting like this is all on Pat. But I do agree with Wade when he closed with............Its Pats show. Pat runs the Heat. Mickey owns the Heat. Butler works for the Heat, he signed a contract, he still has 50 million for next season. What are we really talking about?
All Gilbert knows how to do is out-yell anybody. What he excels at is disrespecting players and coaches from the past. Butler doesn’t respect authority which is typical of today
Yeah right lol y’all forgetting Kyrie wanted to be traded to Miami, dame wanted to be traded to Miami, now Bradley Beal wants to be traded to Miami, hell even Embiid hinted at it. This is a messy situation for sure but don’t use this spat to discredit the organization. This is what people did with Kawhi and the spurs as well. One issue with Kawhi now the spurs is a bad organization, yeah right
Dwade…. nobody is coming to no dam Miami!!!! you transmission
Playa hata. Watch Miami move on and succeed
Y’all said this when LeBron left 😂😂😂😂just shut up already
@@jaybee6892they not getting another championship for years
@@jaybee6892 been watching for the last 5 years brother FAILING
Gil could’ve have been the best thing in this new media but he just wants to troll and have so called hot takes
I totally disagree with you sir and Paul Pierce,, D. Wade even understood, No one man is bigger then the team. You see 👀 now the younger generation is getting softer and softer. But no one really want to address the real elephant in the room.....
2 finals appearances and ECF.. never been healthy any run. Pat and Jimmy need to make amends.
Paul and Gil is right on this one. Even though it's Miami, it's not a popular free agency spot🤷🏾♂️
It’s a tax free state it’s always going to be attractive to players wanting that max contract
YOURE CRAZY! Who wouldn’t want to play basketball in Miami! You’re a fool to think that
Ao why hasn't anyone gone since Lowary
@kahmalmason5919 facts!!!
@Zues_305 Heat culture isn't attractive though 🤷🏾♂️
D wade on that pay riley bs too
Its the owner fault not Pat Rileys
Pat Riley is a control freak. Done Jimmy, Shaq and LeBron dirty. He did D-Wade dirty. Yet Wade and Tim Hardaway still defends him. All Jimmy asked was to add more key pieces to bring a championship back to Miami.
The MIAMI HEAT is a Team. If you run the TEAM, you do what’s best for the TEAM. You don’t hand out MAX DEALS to 33.34.35 year old Washed up Star. When it’s time to move on it’s time to move on. Jimmy got TWO years left… Now he’s pouting cause Pat don’t see a 60 mil a year player TWO YEARS FROM NOW.
@ If they did what was best for the TEAM, then you would’ve made some moves and added more talent to get you over the hump and win that Chip. But because you want to do what’s best for the TEAM, you believe that I don’t need to add a top tier player to win even though all your championships that you have was because you paid top tier players to win it all. Pat is only saying no to Jimmy is because his boss (Micky Arison) has said no to paying him. So are they doing it for the TEAM or are they doing it to not to pay Jimmy and save a lil couple mil in Arison’s pocket?
You have to be a kid. Heat didn’t do anything but follow up Kobe’s request in asking him to get into shape
@@TeezyfolKKzJimmy gave you everything that he had in those runs. Riley didn’t do his job by added an extra major piece to that team. No team in the history of sports has won a championship without multiple stars on your team. Jimmy was the only perennial all star and instead they lost key role players and expected Jimmy to lead them to the championship.
@ and he was paid max $$ to do so. Riley did more than his job surrounding Butler with players that have thrived in the league. This generation is used to Bron’s whiny approach to winning. That’s why it’s a constant call for multiple stars on 1 team.
This ain’t it. Cause it was exactly why Jimmy came to Miami. The Culture. But it was the city itself that has gotten Jimmy distracted. He will regret this after his career. It’s about maturity. Every last player that had issues about contracts when players have come back in some capacity to give flowers and make amends. The Heat is a grown man’s ball club. You’re either mature enough to handle it or you’re not. And the Heat will only attract those who are world class. The ones allergic to it need to stay away
I already paid you for what you did/doing! I even give you a player option to opt in for for another year at 51M if you want. You want me to give you a 3 year extension with a 5% increase on the money I’m already giving you?! Hell No! He ain’t even producing 51-55M’s worth of production on the court now! Why would any GM with sense give him an extension! You either work out a new deal for around 30M or I would gladly get rid of him! Teams needs to take back their power from these spoil rotten entitled players!
Isn’t wade a part owner of Utah jazz. So how he talking about our organization
Because he is Miami. That's why it's nicknamed after him. Wade county fool. He can speak on Miami more than you ever can 😭
@@boogie1982😂😂😂
Lmao 🤦🏿♂️
@@boogie1982 I think that’s obvious since I never played in the nba. Didn’t realize your name was zara my bad. Speaking on daddy
@@peterjohnson2181lmao
Dwade your team is Utah, Miami didn't offer you a part ownership!
Gilbert has the loudest mouth with the littlest accomplishments in his career. But he has an opinion on how everyone is doing Everything wrong.
I thought you said D Wade went off ?
Doing videos in shades.😂
You know what he was hiding haha
jimmy Buttler change the teams like he change his shirts every day this is the MIAMI HEAT show some respect gilbert arenas his a clown
Dwade can’t say shit. He had the same issue.
No he didn't, he was a free agent, Butler is making max money for 2 more seasons.
Nobody going to Miami
Nobdy but some hoes looking for they next settlement
History says you’re wrong
@@jaybee6892who went the 2 summers?
What D wade talking about our franchise???
But I think is Pat Riley ain't do nothing wrong except for not get that man no help when he needed to and some of that was done by the NBA when it came to Damian Lillard now Jimmy Butler the way he's handling it is a completely wrong when somebody tells you no and you get mad and go sit in the corner because you can't get what you want that's how you act come on man people starting to get soft I think Jimmy soft he wants to go play in Phoenix with them softies so that just lets you know how it is and he's gotten the best treatment out of any star so if anybody's wrong in a lot of ways is Jimmy but we won't make the player look wrong we'll make the organization look bad That's how we operate in this world nowadays The person that tells you know is the one that looks bad the person that says yes over there all good until you request the trade and still be in a contract how does that work please tell me cuz that's what KD and LeBron and all them have done
Pat Riley is the problem. Why aren't any big name free agents going to sign with Miami?
Because they don't have cap space Dumdum. Kevin Durant has always wanted to go there. Bradley Beal wants to go there, Lillard...
@Wilcoranking and that responsibility falls on who?....PAT RILEY 😂😂😂😂😂 so it's STILL his fault
Wait one damn minute!! Y’all musta forgot the Michael friggin Jordan ended his career in Washington DC on the wizards!!! Stop using that DWade situation as some sort of argument against the Heat. Stop the foolishness
Huh?Riley did nothing in New York? They made it to the NBA finals? Lost to Houston. WTF are you even talking about?
Cant even look a wade anymore what absolute beta male he turned out to be smh
It was the spurs that ran lebron out of town. Or are we pretending 2014 didn't happen 😂
😂😂😂it was them and LeBum realizing Wade prime ended the second year cause he was doo doo in both series vs the spurs so he ran back to Cleveland
@@Crylater-im9jmso did your hate of Bron start before or he left Miami?
It clearly ain't gon be bam he a other Kris Middleton and pierce is right
That's d wade Zaddy 😂
As man you use that word?
Dude he makes 55 million dollars a year and he's 36 years old Do your job what's complicated about that
Primadonna of mentalities of these American NBA "Stars" always gets in the way of running a Professional Basketball Club/ Franchise. They are PAID to play Basketball and not run an organization. Soft as heck and very ungrateful for their opportunity.
Bro pat got rings and know what it takes to win how many jimmy got?
He said something then
Gilbert be loud and sound like he’s smart a say some of the most dumbest takes ever and he know it might get a response so he can respond to the response
Wade don't like nasty breakups but had them with both of his ex wives!😂😂
Pat Riley runs the Heat organization like a mafia boss 🤷🏽♂️.
If you owned a huge business, would you let one money greedy employee make a 100-times more than the other employees? So, you now understand why Pat Riley is the Godfather of the Miami Heat basketball organization's Front Office. Miss me with your ignorance.
Both can be true.. the hair and suits is not just a style. Conveniently he has coached in all 3 cities “the families” run. They have been in plain sight all along.. Pitino, carlesimo, calipari, massemino , carneseca, Auerbach, etc, etc.
@@JStyle271to be fair I don't think it was meant as an insult
The reason he has won at every level.
If frer agents dont wanna go to miami bc of jimmy that means they wont go the Chicago or Minnesota either i aint saying jimmy wrong he just gotta track record