You don't have to buy one - You need to buy TWO. Since it doesn't require any footwork, she can ride along in her own (slightly modified??). Quality time with your wife is priceless!
I'd say this would be a winner if it weren't for the baby, I'm afraid she'll be opposed to any dangerous activity as a mother would. Can't say i disagree either. Gotta stay in one piece to raise the little one!
@@neondemon5137 normally youd be right. But Zach is mormon. Where they generally treat women with less respect, and very rarely take them out to go do "man stuff". Seriously I saw some f'd up stuff from the Mormon community.
Hey Cambry. Please allow Zack to buy one of these machines. I could argue, that it be a nice couple with EV Hummer, while going up to some mountains, but people would also like to see, if it scratches at level 6, with deeper grooves at level 7. 😀
Cambry, Zack said he is in need of an emotional support dog, since dogs love playing in the snow, this electric snow mobile is pretty much the same thing.
Plus no poop to clean up after...another plus all the controls are reachable by hand so you too can take a ride when he's breaking phones and stuff...win win.
Mine ran out of juice 3mi from my house. Had to tote 2 jugs of Juice, three treacherous miles. I stumbled and sloshed half of it all over my new jacket. Same thing happened when I hauled a load of sailboat fuel in my truck. I had to slam on brakes and sloshed sailboat fuel all over the car beside of me. {0.o}
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You mentioned it in passing a few times but I could imagine how much more relaxing and enjoyable it would be out in nature when your ears aren't being violated by all that engine and exhaust noise under you.
This is super cool! I think the one thing that would make me hesitant to buy one over a gas-powered is the lack of options for extending the range. With gas, you can just strap a jerry can to the tunnel or ride out on the back of your buddy's sled and come back with one if you run out completely. With batteries, I don't see any means of getting the sled back out without towing it.
Electric snowmobiles are by no means "no maintenance". The suspension of a snowmobile takes immense beating and requires maintenance, likely even more than its gasoline counterpart since it's heavier.
@@matthewdscott82 it’s less than 600 lbs comparable to fully fueled gas ones. The website specs of gas snowmobiles show weight without gas or oil… misleading
@@owentrout390 Fair enough but a Ski Doo Freeride is still only 442 lbs (according to their website). Even if you added 50 lbs for fuel, which is a huge overestimation. That's a great deal lighter in comparison. That's all I'm saying.
I like that it has all the modern tech of an electric motorcycle. I don't know about finding a recharge station out on the trail. There's still a huge advantage to carrying a gas can while offroading.
Snowmobiling is so damn fun, but it can also be dangerous, I went a few weeks ago and my brother had an accident so if anyone goes, be careful, also where the right clothes cause that shit get cold.
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a someone that is also grown up with a lot of snowmobile and I live above the arctic circle in Sweden. Just saying new machines don't have problem starting when it's -20 if it's colder than -30 you will start to have problems and failure to start. I would never bring one of these machines outside the track because you can't just refuel them, but for going on a snowmobile track perfectly fine
$20K+ Wow. I can wait to see a Jerryrig video showing all these lithium batteries being environmentally recycled? I love electric vehicles and have an Electric Truck, but like smart phones, everyone wants the best, with little to no care about the environmental cost in production and afterlife.
@@JerryRigEverything Hopefully you can do a video at one of them one day. So many people think the batteries are going into landfills and making the environment toxic.
@@lukejones7366 These are lithium-iron-phosphate batteries in this snowmobile, so no cobalt. iPhones and Android phones, however, use cobalt, if it matters to you.
3:39 Misleading, You wont find a hill steep enough to recharge the battery on regen. There are so much frictional losses in a track on snow the gains are a lot less than a car on the road.
Pretty nifty. Having ridden snowmobiles plenty in Colorado I really like the idea of an all electric one. However, she's a heavy beast! I can't imagine taking that thing off a packed trail. It would take 3 people to get it unstuck, not too mention how hard it would be to throw around in the pow. Props to them for advancing the technology though. It would be nice to see battery tech get lighter and more energy dense
I can see these being nice for tourist places. Growing up just outside of Yellowstone, I could see these kinds of things bring nice for snowmobile tours. Definitely have a long ways before getting into to hardcore shedding market.
Having ridden gas snowmobiles for the last 3-5 years. I can say this is a small stepping stone, but 60 miles and 12 hours of charging is a far cry from the 100+ mile range and 2min fill up that allow for me to go on long trail rides. This is not to mention the difficulty of finding a charger along a trail up in Michigan. I love to see innovation and am definitely intrigued at the instant torque.
@@them2545 Would be an awesome idea for rentals though. Rent out electrical snowmobiles @ position A and ~50mi or so further away you got quickchargers and a cofféeshop and some nice cozy furniture. Would make gold.
Definitely what i was thinking, 60 miles feels like you couldnt even go to town and back comfortably. Its still super cool technology and i cant wait to see how things progress.
@@ArnauD-16 Nope, 60 miles is 100% charge, which everyone always forgets to tell you every manufacture never recommends you charging that high as its bad for batteries, just like filling 100% of gasoline in your now, ICE vehicle.. oh wait lol.. so that would be for the upgraded battery version.. So 60 miles minus 20% because you should only charge to 70-80% of charge is 48 miles and let's be realistic no one is riding 48 miles on something that weighs 700 pound in the freezing weather in snow, they want that buffer so realistically your range is more like 30 miles or 20 miles. Wait, then again all these figures are perfect conditions that 48 miles is probably 40 miles at best, ahh wth am I arguing, this will fail just like electric motorcycles did.
I just took delivery on my Nomad last month. Now, all I need is some snow in Wisconsin!! Excellent video. Love the multiple camera angles. Thanks for posting!!
It's the 60miles range that kills it for most. Until range catches up closer to what gas models can do then it becomes somewhat option. I've never went out for just an hour or so.
Yeah I assumed most people who use them are out for most of the free time they have in the day. The 60 miles sounded short to me, I also figured that being a tracked vehicle the range on a pretty decently sized battery would be so low. Tracks are less efficient than wheels, but I don't know how much. And with those efficiency loss it really shows up in the regen effectiveness as well as the rolling torque required by the motor.
@@FJB2020 assuming it's only used during winter you may get good life out of them if you keep it at 50% during the summer. Should last a good long time that way.
I have an 800 rev with a big bore kit. It will go about 65-80 miles on a full tank. Not far off, but atleast if I run out on the trail, someone can bring me some fuel!!😂😂
Why are there so many comments about these being so quiet? Sure, electric = much quieter than a gas motor, but snowmobile tracks make a ton of noise. As well as the skis, especially when going through a crust. Don’t plan on sneaking up on someone, it’s not a Prius.
Super cool, I'd love to be able to go out into the woods in one and not have the fumes and noise. The only question I have is the ability to move it if you get stuck in a lot of powder? I've spent a lot of hours slowly shuffling the front and back end of a machine onto more stable snow to get out. Not sure if that would be possible with how heavy this is.
it's same/similar weight as a regular snowmobile. 297 kg compared to around 290 to 330 kg for most other regular ones. So, it's not really heavier. That's the Nomad, the touring type snowmobile. Their Ekko that's more sporty is 271 kg, like 20 kgs lighter than a comparable skidoo.
Tell her that you will buy this snowmobile for her. It always works. You can add phrases like "for your birthday" or "for the anniversary" for better results.
Just remind your lovely wife Cambry what this channel enables you to provide for her and your young child. I think that you deserve it 100%... Every item that I have seen you build has always been very practical. I am sure that this electric snowmobile would easily transport your family on a beautiful snowy adventure...
This is cool for casual short riding. But 750 lb is really heavy and it would be nice to see the range bumped up to over 100 miles. These would be cool for rental fleets.
As some that has driven snow machines my whole life 60 miles is barely having fun. So what happens when you run out juice your screwed. You can't just take a spare can of fuel and get back up and running. Cool idea but not there yet we need a better technology than lithium batteries. Also have fun getting that heavy bastered unstuck from deep snow you will need like 4 of them to pull it out.
Exactly. We typically ride 150-200 miles a day so this wouldn't cut it. Would work perfectly as a utility vehicle, or something to take you out to the lake to ice fish
Most riders stop very frequently at rest points along the trails (every 1-2 hours). If the infrastructure if in place to charge along the trail, it won't be an issue. Might be an issue with off-trail riders using their mountain sled. Off trail you don't do much mileage, but being always wide open consumes a ton of fuel
@@ChrisPBacon-gn9jx gas sleds don't regen going downhill on the mountain. Since what goes up must come down, I expect it is less of a problem than you would think.
The only downfall I can see is the 60 mile range and lack of chargers on snow mobile trails. I'm guessing serious snow mobilers go hundreds of miles. Otherwise, pretty cool.
@@alexlevoyageur3412 It is not possible to put out chargers everywhere in the forest because it would be very expensive. And its just cheaper to have a extra gasoline can.
As an avid snowmobiler you are correct. 60miles of range is nothing. Sleds these days go 130-175 miles on a tank. 4 hours of charging is completely impractical. They need to be able to charge in under 45 min as that is how long we stay at a bar and eat food. This electric sled is no where near ready for the trails, let alone off trail riding.
Still sounds like the battery will drain slowly in cold weather, even with their "thermal management system". Energy is still needs to heat up those batteries after all when the thing is switched off. I'm not a battery engineer, but I feel like it might've been worthwhile for them to use a battery that is more tolerant of cold temperatures, not necessarily Li-ion based
That's how all snowmobiles are. You still need your lower body to shift weight when turning and to stay on the machine. It would still be dangerous for her to ride one because snowmobiles need more speed than an atv ride.
@@jeffgayzose8129 I know that's how they are. He asked for comments to help convince his wife to let him buy one. That's why I commented what I did. I've been on snowmobiles plenty of times to know how to control them
The power is good, the power to weight ratio not so much. This is a great sled for staying and trails and doing work around a property. Climbing steep powdered covered mountains and weaving through the trees (not on groomed trails) will probably find you very stuck. Still I love the idea and would enjoy a day on a groomed trail with one!
First video I have watched of yours, so when you say "same as my hummer" it's more confusing than helpful! I will watch your other videos to see this Electric Hummer!
Awesome! But once the lithium batteries are too cold to work, like in the morning, what's powering this heat management system? Is there a consistent power drain, like all night? Is there a solar charging option? And can the track belt be disengaged? So you can be towed when you run out of power in the woods.
Hi Jason! There's no problem to let the batteries cool down and there's no constant drain. When you're ready to ride in the morning, the heater kicks and warms the battery, this draws a low amount of power usage. Also, no need to disengage the belt. You can tow freely as long as the snowmobile is fully turned off.
Hell ya, this thing looks so cool. I live in indiana where you get no snow, or a ton of snow in the winter. This thing would be awesome to ride in the farm fields or in the back yard. Looks awesome.
@@bradenmchenry995 Total polution and climate change from transportation is around 1/3 of total (I think). Of that heavy trucks are one large component and small motors like snow mobiles, jet skis and lawn equipment are another. Cars are pretty well regulated but small motors are not.
@@michaellatta emissions from a small snowmobile motor have to be around the same as the mining of battery minerals. One just acts like it’s green and efficient
0:39 that’s ridiculous. My ‘86 Indy fires up on the second or third pull of the season. It then envelops me in a cloud of smoke, and is noisy as heck but not all snogos are hard to start!
I'm super stoked that I can get myself one of these in 10 years time when price is way lower and availability isn't any issue. Love this so much. Thank you Zack!
Cambry, if you’re reading this, think of the content Zack could make with one of these… and I am pretty sure the design of the sled accommodates passengers who are typically in a wheelchair. How cool is that? How could you NOT buy one or two? (I’ve been married for 17 years, I’m trying to help where I can 🙂)
Here in Norway people drive around in Tesla’s and other electric cars in -17 degrees Celsius, so it’s not that big of a deal really. Although the range do get affected by the temperature.
Sleds do tip over get stuck and trench( trenching is when the track digs down and the floorboards are sitting on the snowpack). Most performance snowmobiles are between the 400 to 600 pound range with the very heavy utility sleds being 600 pounds 700 pounds is unheard of in the snowmobile world.
It doesn’t interest me that you cannot pick up the back of the machine We all know that the first step normally is when you get stuck not sure what you could do with the electric one
The snowmobile would’ve helped in the impossible rescue… false, they would’ve had to stop 12 times to recharge and the lack of charging stations in the wilderness makes them useless. Nonetheless it’s a sweet machine!
At 621lbs, high price, low range (100km) and hp. I don’t see these doing very well. Until battery’s become lighter and more powerful I don’t see these as viable option. I know with a N/A sled, you loose hp at higher elevations and the CVT eats up a good chunk of HP. Range is not long enough for both trail and back country and weighs way too much.
I wasn't aware Vermont was as cold and snowy as this. Here in Chicago we never really have consistent enough snow over to justify snowmobiles. Never even really seen one. We have a crap ton of ATVs and UTVs though.
While the idea of this is cool and I'm all in on electric future the range is a huge issue for snowmobiles. a normal trail ride for me is a couple hundred miles through the back woods with super small pumps for sleds but no space to charge. I think hitting about 250 miles of range on a electric snowmobile will be a must as its not realistic to get charging stations out in the woods. it is exciting to see companies working on this but I think its going to be a small market for a long time.
@@TheNilla2020 I think the potential is there but we are a long way away from getting there. If companies keep spending R&D money on it we will get there but not sure the market will be able to support the cost of the development 🙃
Don't really know what kind of snowmobiles you had, but modern fuel injected snowmobiles start very reliably and don't require much maintenance. Snowmobiles have large fuel tanks (40 liters) as gas stations can be very far apart, which is a massive problem for an electric snowmobile which severely limits where you can go. That's a problem as electric charging stations aren't right next to snowmobile paths.
you probably should mention that gas snowmachines have a range of 200 miles while electic has 60. Also you can carry a gas can just in case. For a offroading vehicle, its not a good idea to go electric. Last time i checked, no tree has a tesla charger.
I'd be very surprised if there _wasn't_ a tree with a Tesla charger. Having said that, it's not something you'd be very likely to come across in the wild.
60 miles gets you half day of riding, and when you get stuck you are not strong enough to pick it up out of the snow. When your battery dies, you'll need a gas power sled to pull you out of the backwoods. Last I checked, there are no charging units on the mountain.
Ahahaha, what a joke. We've had electric powered snowmobiles for years and years in Lapland. I remember we had them at least as far back as 2015 in commercial use
As with the majority of "world's first" claims these days, this is a long, LONG way from being the first. Finnish manufacturer Aurora Powertrains has been making electric snowmobiles they call eSleds since 2017. These are very cool and very welcome, but they are NOT the first.
Making? Aurora Powertrains has not made any sled, they have used an ordinary Lynx and simply replaced the gas engine with an electric motor and added a battery and some new stickers...
Interesting , Thank You. The main problem I see is RANGE . As an electric the power has to be GENERATED and transmitted . I admit that oil and gas also have to be transported .
You'd need to pull her in the garage every night to keep her warm. Also, that's a heavy-ass slead. Good luck if you trenched her. Without any airflow, she'd probably overheat like a SOB trying to get her unstuck. These things are cool but just won't be an option for any serious snow machine-er (especially up north). Not being able to recharge on the trail or leave the slead outside on an overnight trip would be a deal-breaker. Additionally, if there are any sort of electrical issues out on the trail, good luck. You'll have to call in the national guard to get her out in one piece.
It’s a good concept, but this isn’t practical or realistic for anybody besides people who have a huge property to ride on. Anyone that’s going on trails or going anywhere with it, especially in these remote locations that snowmobiles are used in, would not be able to find any charge location- ever. Im used to being able to load and throw these things around by myself, but a snowmobile that weighs like a tank is probably the worst one you could ever choose to ride on. Good luck maneuvering- at all. Anybody who’s rode for more than five minutes would realize that this tank would be an awful choice to ride on lol.
All the “noise and fumes” comments are comical. Id definitely give electric a try once the tech is there but for now my two stoke gas motors do great. If you guys want to see some truly amazing sledding search “No Snowmobile Has Gone Before”
1:00 well, we've learned from GMC and Tesla, and other electric transportation companies, like flywheel, that you 100% DO have maintenance and things that break on them.
Like Skidoo, Taiga is from Quebec, Canada and has been testing their EV snow machines for a few years. Impressive machines. And yes you need two of them, one for you and one for your wife!☃️
You don't have to buy one - You need to buy TWO. Since it doesn't require any footwork, she can ride along in her own (slightly modified??). Quality time with your wife is priceless!
It's a two seater so he can ride in the back.
I'd say this would be a winner if it weren't for the baby, I'm afraid she'll be opposed to any dangerous activity as a mother would. Can't say i disagree either. Gotta stay in one piece to raise the little one!
@@experimentalcyborg That's not how modern women think.
@@neondemon5137 normally youd be right. But Zach is mormon. Where they generally treat women with less respect, and very rarely take them out to go do "man stuff". Seriously I saw some f'd up stuff from the Mormon community.
@@kepler656 How do you know he's a Mormon?
Hey Cambry. Please allow Zack to buy one of these machines. I could argue, that it be a nice couple with EV Hummer, while going up to some mountains, but people would also like to see, if it scratches at level 6, with deeper grooves at level 7. 😀
Me too, I would like to know if it scratches at level 6, with deeper grooves at level 7.
Cambry, Zack said he is in need of an emotional support dog, since dogs love playing in the snow, this electric snow mobile is pretty much the same thing.
Math checks out
Plus no poop to clean up after...another plus all the controls are reachable by hand so you too can take a ride when he's breaking phones and stuff...win win.
Mine ran out of juice 3mi from my house. Had to tote 2 jugs of Juice, three treacherous miles. I stumbled and sloshed half of it all over my new jacket. Same thing happened when I hauled a load of sailboat fuel in my truck. I had to slam on brakes and sloshed sailboat fuel all over the car beside of me. {0.o}
Ok, but what about air conditioning? exactly!
Dude is literally living the dream
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Seems like those would also come in handy for filming purposes. Being so much quieter. And HECK YES we wanna see the JetSki!!
I second that!
Jet ski! Right now! In Vermont! In a dry suit!
Yeah! Jet Ski!
You mentioned it in passing a few times but I could imagine how much more relaxing and enjoyable it would be out in nature when your ears aren't being violated by all that engine and exhaust noise under you.
wind would be just as loud and the track flapping is still pretty loud at speed
As a dirtbike and sport quad rider, I would miss the beautiful 2 stroke sound they make
Electric transport is superior in so many aspects. It really should be experienced before making any judgements.
@@ericdirnbeck3497 I'll take turbo noises and rev snaps any day...
@@FJB2020 I’ve always said that I want to put a bumper sticker on the back of my Tesla that says “Wow, your loud car is slow.”
It's nice viewing this in my warm bed.
This is super cool! I think the one thing that would make me hesitant to buy one over a gas-powered is the lack of options for extending the range. With gas, you can just strap a jerry can to the tunnel or ride out on the back of your buddy's sled and come back with one if you run out completely. With batteries, I don't see any means of getting the sled back out without towing it.
strap an extra battery on
for the first time myself I got to try an electric snowmobile 2018 Aurora Powertrains was its manufacturer
Electric snowmobiles are by no means "no maintenance". The suspension of a snowmobile takes immense beating and requires maintenance, likely even more than its gasoline counterpart since it's heavier.
Its not much heavier than a fully gassed ICE one tho. Same maintenance on shocks and track but no engine maintince.
Absolutely
Not to mention getting stuck in deep snow. Can’t be fun trying to get out with a 750 lb machine.
@@matthewdscott82 it’s less than 600 lbs comparable to fully fueled gas ones. The website specs of gas snowmobiles show weight without gas or oil… misleading
@@owentrout390 Fair enough but a Ski Doo Freeride is still only 442 lbs (according to their website). Even if you added 50 lbs for fuel, which is a huge overestimation. That's a great deal lighter in comparison. That's all I'm saying.
I like that it has all the modern tech of an electric motorcycle. I don't know about finding a recharge station out on the trail. There's still a huge advantage to carrying a gas can while offroading.
A hybrid engine would probably be better for off roading. Not sure if you can fit one in the space of a snowmobile, tho.
Snowmobiling is so damn fun, but it can also be dangerous, I went a few weeks ago and my brother had an accident so if anyone goes, be careful, also where the right clothes cause that shit get cold.
Taiga is a super rad company! Hoping to see these up in the Revelstoke mountains or in Whistler!
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a someone that is also grown up with a lot of snowmobile and I live above the arctic circle in Sweden. Just saying new machines don't have problem starting when it's -20 if it's colder than -30 you will start to have problems and failure to start. I would never bring one of these machines outside the track because you can't just refuel them, but for going on a snowmobile track perfectly fine
In Finnland there is already a company called Aurora, and they build their own Snowmobiles and rent them for testing.
Finnland ;)
Krewkast ? Haha
Electric?
@@Nissi5_ Genau😂
@@King_of_Africa Yes
8:19 thank you for not putting music over it. I hate when electric cars/planes/things get put away with a fancy music. I LOVE the sound of the motors
$20K+ Wow. I can wait to see a Jerryrig video showing all these lithium batteries being environmentally recycled? I love electric vehicles and have an Electric Truck, but like smart phones, everyone wants the best, with little to no care about the environmental cost in production and afterlife.
Lithium battery's *can* be 95% recycled. There are even 2 locations in the USA that recycle car batteries commercially.
@@JerryRigEverything Hopefully you can do a video at one of them one day. So many people think the batteries are going into landfills and making the environment toxic.
Or the children in relative slavery mining the cobalt etc.
@@lukejones7366
These are lithium-iron-phosphate batteries in this snowmobile, so no cobalt. iPhones and Android phones, however, use cobalt, if it matters to you.
3:39 Misleading, You wont find a hill steep enough to recharge the battery on regen.
There are so much frictional losses in a track on snow the gains are a lot less than a car on the road.
Pretty nifty. Having ridden snowmobiles plenty in Colorado I really like the idea of an all electric one. However, she's a heavy beast! I can't imagine taking that thing off a packed trail. It would take 3 people to get it unstuck, not too mention how hard it would be to throw around in the pow. Props to them for advancing the technology though. It would be nice to see battery tech get lighter and more energy dense
yeah, and it's like a maximum of two hours of fun... and good luck finding a supercharger on a mountain
@@nmrdkl I mean like bringing a gas can, someone could just bring a battery.
@@DoubsGaming you can't just take out the battery
I can see these being nice for tourist places. Growing up just outside of Yellowstone, I could see these kinds of things bring nice for snowmobile tours. Definitely have a long ways before getting into to hardcore shedding market.
They will be lighter in the future, battery tech is still advancing, and battery is most of the weight.
At 6:36
That’s not the regen, that’s the hand warmers😂😂😂
I laughed at that too!
Having ridden gas snowmobiles for the last 3-5 years. I can say this is a small stepping stone, but 60 miles and 12 hours of charging is a far cry from the 100+ mile range and 2min fill up that allow for me to go on long trail rides. This is not to mention the difficulty of finding a charger along a trail up in Michigan. I love to see innovation and am definitely intrigued at the instant torque.
I believe he said it's the 30min super charge that gives 80% battery and 60miles of range
@@ArnauD-16 still you can’t find a charger, super or regular, on the side of a mountain far from civilization.
@@them2545 Would be an awesome idea for rentals though.
Rent out electrical snowmobiles @ position A and ~50mi or so further away you got quickchargers and a cofféeshop and some nice cozy furniture. Would make gold.
Definitely what i was thinking, 60 miles feels like you couldnt even go to town and back comfortably. Its still super cool technology and i cant wait to see how things progress.
@@ArnauD-16 Nope, 60 miles is 100% charge, which everyone always forgets to tell you every manufacture never recommends you charging that high as its bad for batteries, just like filling 100% of gasoline in your now, ICE vehicle.. oh wait lol.. so that would be for the upgraded battery version.. So 60 miles minus 20% because you should only charge to 70-80% of charge is 48 miles and let's be realistic no one is riding 48 miles on something that weighs 700 pound in the freezing weather in snow, they want that buffer so realistically your range is more like 30 miles or 20 miles. Wait, then again all these figures are perfect conditions that 48 miles is probably 40 miles at best, ahh wth am I arguing, this will fail just like electric motorcycles did.
I just took delivery on my Nomad last month. Now, all I need is some snow in Wisconsin!!
Excellent video. Love the multiple camera angles. Thanks for posting!!
Oh man, it would be incredible to drive one of these! It would be cool to see that electric jetski too.
Given it's pulling power you could tow a battery and reduce other load.
You may be able to enjoy riding for 60-90 minutes before you have to put it on a 12 hour charge.
@@chuckhughes641The brand new 2024 Taige Orca gets 2 hours on a charge - definitely not enough for most ppl.. Probably will be a fail.
"Good for search and rescue"... but the guy you rescue dies in the cold as the battery dies out in the middle of nowhere.
It's the 60miles range that kills it for most. Until range catches up closer to what gas models can do then it becomes somewhat option. I've never went out for just an hour or so.
Yeah I assumed most people who use them are out for most of the free time they have in the day. The 60 miles sounded short to me, I also figured that being a tracked vehicle the range on a pretty decently sized battery would be so low. Tracks are less efficient than wheels, but I don't know how much. And with those efficiency loss it really shows up in the regen effectiveness as well as the rolling torque required by the motor.
I doubt it gets 60 and what is the degradation of the cells.. probably gets 40 after a year..
@@FJB2020 assuming it's only used during winter you may get good life out of them if you keep it at 50% during the summer. Should last a good long time that way.
@@FJB2020 that being said I don't like the proprietary battery tech..
I have an 800 rev with a big bore kit. It will go about 65-80 miles on a full tank. Not far off, but atleast if I run out on the trail, someone can bring me some fuel!!😂😂
Aurora Powertrain's electric snowmobiles debuted in Finland in early 2018
This looks amazing! My 6 year old bro and I love watching your videos!
Tell him hi for me!
@@JerryRigEverything hello 👋
Why are there so many comments about these being so quiet? Sure, electric = much quieter than a gas motor, but snowmobile tracks make a ton of noise. As well as the skis, especially when going through a crust. Don’t plan on sneaking up on someone, it’s not a Prius.
I currently own a jet ski and it would be awesome to see the electric powered one, no maintenance sounds very appealing
Waiting hours in line to get to the charger then waiting hours to charge it to go 60 miles won't be so appealing then🤣
issue is that a waterjet is very inefficient, so with the same battery pack as this you would probably only get like 30 miles.
Hey Zack you forgot to tell where it’s from! It’s from the home of snowmobile, Québec Canada! I love that they chose you to talk about it!
Super cool, I'd love to be able to go out into the woods in one and not have the fumes and noise. The only question I have is the ability to move it if you get stuck in a lot of powder? I've spent a lot of hours slowly shuffling the front and back end of a machine onto more stable snow to get out. Not sure if that would be possible with how heavy this is.
ppl (read me) ride yamahas in deep snow that weigh 313kg and i manage to get it unstuck so sure!
it's same/similar weight as a regular snowmobile. 297 kg compared to around 290 to 330 kg for most other regular ones. So, it's not really heavier. That's the Nomad, the touring type snowmobile. Their Ekko that's more sporty is 271 kg, like 20 kgs lighter than a comparable skidoo.
@@theablanca17 but the snowmobile (ski-doo summit) weighs only 200 kg.
Tell her that you will buy this snowmobile for her.
It always works.
You can add phrases like "for your birthday" or "for the anniversary" for better results.
I Can't believe I always snap my fingers whenever I hear "let's get started". 😆😆
Just remind your lovely wife Cambry what this channel enables you to provide for her and your young child. I think that you deserve it 100%... Every item that I have seen you build has always been very practical. I am sure that this electric snowmobile would easily transport your family on a beautiful snowy adventure...
This is cool for casual short riding. But 750 lb is really heavy and it would be nice to see the range bumped up to over 100 miles. These would be cool for rental fleets.
Vermont REPRESENT!!
Would be nice if you would include metric measurements as well
1100 pounds ≈ 499KG
60 Miles ≈ 97KM
750 pounds ≈ 340KG
Their website is all in metric anyways.
I just convert the numbers and carry on. No problem!
Thank you!
As some that has driven snow machines my whole life 60 miles is barely having fun. So what happens when you run out juice your screwed. You can't just take a spare can of fuel and get back up and running. Cool idea but not there yet we need a better technology than lithium batteries. Also have fun getting that heavy bastered unstuck from deep snow you will need like 4 of them to pull it out.
Yeah, this is basically the segway if the sled world. Fun, but not meant for people who actually use them
Exactly. We typically ride 150-200 miles a day so this wouldn't cut it. Would work perfectly as a utility vehicle, or something to take you out to the lake to ice fish
If you bought 2 of these, they would make a great Christmas present for you and Cambry
Man they honestly have to find a way to get those range between 100-150 for it to be reliable in non casual uses.
Battery technology will advance, I’m pretty sure. In 10 years or so we will be all smiling at this “old stuff” that whaaaaat? could only go 60 miles.
Most riders stop very frequently at rest points along the trails (every 1-2 hours). If the infrastructure if in place to charge along the trail, it won't be an issue.
Might be an issue with off-trail riders using their mountain sled. Off trail you don't do much mileage, but being always wide open consumes a ton of fuel
@@marcd6897 It hasn't changed in decades, what do you think will magically happen lol
@@ChrisPBacon-gn9jx gas sleds don't regen going downhill on the mountain. Since what goes up must come down, I expect it is less of a problem than you would think.
The only downfall I can see is the 60 mile range and lack of chargers on snow mobile trails. I'm guessing serious snow mobilers go hundreds of miles. Otherwise, pretty cool.
more and more charger are coming and taiga are installing more and more charger
@@alexlevoyageur3412 It is not possible to put out chargers everywhere in the forest because it would be very expensive. And its just cheaper to have a extra gasoline can.
@@Reolzomic also the range on these Will expand in the future
As an avid snowmobiler you are correct. 60miles of range is nothing. Sleds these days go 130-175 miles on a tank. 4 hours of charging is completely impractical. They need to be able to charge in under 45 min as that is how long we stay at a bar and eat food. This electric sled is no where near ready for the trails, let alone off trail riding.
@@theironhunter1423 best for ski station and rescue team for the silence of the machine and still heard the people
2:37 I like how the ski was synced to the music. Details.
Still sounds like the battery will drain slowly in cold weather, even with their "thermal management system". Energy is still needs to heat up those batteries after all when the thing is switched off.
I'm not a battery engineer, but I feel like it might've been worthwhile for them to use a battery that is more tolerant of cold temperatures, not necessarily Li-ion based
90% of the fun is the sound and the smell of 2 stroke smoke
I just moved to a colder climate area and would love to have a snowmobile, but hate the idea of buying anything gas powered in 2022. These are so cool
1°C is like Beach weather here in Canada eh 🍁
This is good and all, but does it scratch at level 6 with deeper grooves at a level 7??
Yes! Let’s see the jet ski!!!
the fact that all the controls are in the hands means Cambry can drive it also. That should be enough convincing
That's how all snowmobiles are. You still need your lower body to shift weight when turning and to stay on the machine. It would still be dangerous for her to ride one because snowmobiles need more speed than an atv ride.
@@jeffgayzose8129 I know that's how they are. He asked for comments to help convince his wife to let him buy one. That's why I commented what I did. I've been on snowmobiles plenty of times to know how to control them
@@benh554 well, it was a stupid comment. But who am I to judge
@@jeffgayzose8129 that's your opinion.
All snowmobile controls are in the hands as it is.
The power is good, the power to weight ratio not so much. This is a great sled for staying and trails and doing work around a property. Climbing steep powdered covered mountains and weaving through the trees (not on groomed trails) will probably find you very stuck. Still I love the idea and would enjoy a day on a groomed trail with one!
Ridiculous recharger time of batteries is what will keep gasoline powered cars still in the game for YEARS.
@@phantomreaver85 battery lifespan AND horrendous cost of replacing it
First video I have watched of yours, so when you say "same as my hummer" it's more confusing than helpful! I will watch your other videos to see this Electric Hummer!
Awesome! But once the lithium batteries are too cold to work, like in the morning, what's powering this heat management system? Is there a consistent power drain, like all night? Is there a solar charging option? And can the track belt be disengaged? So you can be towed when you run out of power in the woods.
I was gonna ask since charging lithium-ion batteries below 0°C is dangerous if I'm not wrong.
It stays always on, like tesla does
Also, how good will the batteries be after 10 years of use. Our 14 year old Ski doo renegade and touring works just like when we bought them.
@@justaguyfromreddit So you can charge below zero that way? Interesting. Didn't know that
Hi Jason! There's no problem to let the batteries cool down and there's no constant drain. When you're ready to ride in the morning, the heater kicks and warms the battery, this draws a low amount of power usage. Also, no need to disengage the belt. You can tow freely as long as the snowmobile is fully turned off.
Looks great! Yes, please do a video on the electric jet ski.
I'm curious about charging time in that cold weather and how the batteries behave under that stress when the charge is happening.
i agree, however hes wrong about starting in cold weather. its very easy to get them started.
Hell ya, this thing looks so cool. I live in indiana where you get no snow, or a ton of snow in the winter. This thing would be awesome to ride in the farm fields or in the back yard. Looks awesome.
Great to see these going electric. Smaller engines are much worse in terms of emissions.
You’re worried about emissions from a freaking snowmobile
@@bradenmchenry995 Total polution and climate change from transportation is around 1/3 of total (I think). Of that heavy trucks are one large component and small motors like snow mobiles, jet skis and lawn equipment are another. Cars are pretty well regulated but small motors are not.
@@bradenmchenry995
Just like #45 was worried about birds getting Covid from "Windmills".
@@michaellatta emissions from a small snowmobile motor have to be around the same as the mining of battery minerals. One just acts like it’s green and efficient
@@bradenmchenry995 EXACTLY
Cambry- let the man buy one! Especially being in Utah, it will definitely get used! These are awesome, I will definitely be looking into getting one!
Id love to see the electric jetski! Curious as to how that would work, especially being in salt water.
Also about weight
0:39 that’s ridiculous. My ‘86 Indy fires up on the second or third pull of the season. It then envelops me in a cloud of smoke, and is noisy as heck but not all snogos are hard to start!
No noise and no fumes would be amazing. The lack of exhaust is what I love about our electric yard tools (snow blower, mower, trimmer, and chainsaw)
Yard tools are fine, but the smell of the mix and the sound of the pipe is what makes a 2 stroke bike or sled so good
@@jeffgayzose8129 it is, and the feel when you reach the peak HP and Torque just simply amazing.
I'm super stoked that I can get myself one of these in 10 years time when price is way lower and availability isn't any issue. Love this so much. Thank you Zack!
Cambry, if you’re reading this, think of the content Zack could make with one of these… and I am pretty sure the design of the sled accommodates passengers who are typically in a wheelchair. How cool is that? How could you NOT buy one or two? (I’ve been married for 17 years, I’m trying to help where I can 🙂)
Here in Norway people drive around in Tesla’s and other electric cars in -17 degrees Celsius, so it’s not that big of a deal really. Although the range do get affected by the temperature.
Two questions. How much heavier than a gas snowmobile and can this tip over ?
Sleds do tip over get stuck and trench( trenching is when the track digs down and the floorboards are sitting on the snowpack). Most performance snowmobiles are between the 400 to 600 pound range with the very heavy utility sleds being 600 pounds 700 pounds is unheard of in the snowmobile world.
@Screwdriver440 my 98 xc700 with a 780 build was 375 with a 5 lb zex nitrous bottle shoved in the back of the seat.
They are almost equal to stacking 2 indy 550s on top of each other stuck in 5 feet of wet heavy snow
One very small thing I love from thid channel is that he dhow the mile to kilometer figures as well as Fahrenheit to celcuis
60 miles of range? Thats a fun toy to go around a frozen lake.. not for actual trail riding.
I love the concept of EVs for outdoor exploration. It's just amazing to be able to hear that winter silence while zooming along at 40 mph.
I don’t see how this has a market. Extremely heavy and range is an issue
Would be a great option for ski resorts
Please do a video on the electric jet ski!
Should be able to absolutely pack that thing with batteries without causing to much problem with performance. neat!
Hey Cambry ! Please let Zack buy this snowmobile ! 😊
It doesn’t interest me that you cannot pick up the back of the machine
We all know that the first step normally is when you get stuck not sure what you could do with the electric one
I guess you better have a bunch of guys or you're SOL.
There's actually an additional fee of a gym membership when you buy this cause that deadlift gotta be 300+ pounds.
This man is in desperate need of a support sled. I can see the sadness in his face as the video ended and he had to give it back. Have a heart! 😓🥰
The snowmobile would’ve helped in the impossible rescue… false, they would’ve had to stop 12 times to recharge and the lack of charging stations in the wilderness makes them useless. Nonetheless it’s a sweet machine!
if they make a version with a swappable battery it actually might be good for rescue.
@@aleks138 Who are you going to swap them out with? Simply add fuel cans on the back of the sleds and go hundreds of miles.
That looked like the snowmobile tour group in Bolton.
At 621lbs, high price, low range (100km) and hp. I don’t see these doing very well. Until battery’s become lighter and more powerful I don’t see these as viable option. I know with a N/A sled, you loose hp at higher elevations and the CVT eats up a good chunk of HP. Range is not long enough for both trail and back country and weighs way too much.
Yeah. But you really can’t get more power out of lighter batteries. E=MC^2 kind of proves it.
I wasn't aware Vermont was as cold and snowy as this. Here in Chicago we never really have consistent enough snow over to justify snowmobiles. Never even really seen one. We have a crap ton of ATVs and UTVs though.
While the idea of this is cool and I'm all in on electric future the range is a huge issue for snowmobiles. a normal trail ride for me is a couple hundred miles through the back woods with super small pumps for sleds but no space to charge. I think hitting about 250 miles of range on a electric snowmobile will be a must as its not realistic to get charging stations out in the woods. it is exciting to see companies working on this but I think its going to be a small market for a long time.
I was looking for this comment. Yeah you can't trail ride with these. I dont think electric snowmobiles really work
@@TheNilla2020 I think the potential is there but we are a long way away from getting there. If companies keep spending R&D money on it we will get there but not sure the market will be able to support the cost of the development 🙃
They can put small eletrict generators like Turbolent Hydro's one. Snow = water, so they will work just fine
Background music when you are trying to hear the sound of the sled while running?
Don't really know what kind of snowmobiles you had, but modern fuel injected snowmobiles start very reliably and don't require much maintenance. Snowmobiles have large fuel tanks (40 liters) as gas stations can be very far apart, which is a massive problem for an electric snowmobile which severely limits where you can go. That's a problem as electric charging stations aren't right next to snowmobile paths.
yeah. also that thing is heavy af compared to regular sleds
You can apparently charge it with almost anything.
@@Alias_Anybody I'm not waiting 12 hours to charge my sled, when I can fill up in minutes at a gas station.
If I did cold weather, I would be ordering one now! But, I live in Miami. That jet ski sounds like a fun review!
you probably should mention that gas snowmachines have a range of 200 miles while electic has 60. Also you can carry a gas can just in case. For a offroading vehicle, its not a good idea to go electric. Last time i checked, no tree has a tesla charger.
I'd be very surprised if there _wasn't_ a tree with a Tesla charger. Having said that, it's not something you'd be very likely to come across in the wild.
60 miles gets you half day of riding, and when you get stuck you are not strong enough to pick it up out of the snow. When your battery dies, you'll need a gas power sled to pull you out of the backwoods. Last I checked, there are no charging units on the mountain.
Ahahaha, what a joke. We've had electric powered snowmobiles for years and years in Lapland. I remember we had them at least as far back as 2015 in commercial use
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Mr. Rig returns for another amazing video!
As with the majority of "world's first" claims these days, this is a long, LONG way from being the first. Finnish manufacturer Aurora Powertrains has been making electric snowmobiles they call eSleds since 2017.
These are very cool and very welcome, but they are NOT the first.
Making? Aurora Powertrains has not made any sled, they have used an ordinary Lynx and simply replaced the gas engine with an electric motor and added a battery and some new stickers...
I sure do love neature
Interesting , Thank You. The main problem I see is RANGE . As an electric the power has to be GENERATED and transmitted . I admit that oil and gas also have to be transported .
You'd need to pull her in the garage every night to keep her warm. Also, that's a heavy-ass slead. Good luck if you trenched her. Without any airflow, she'd probably overheat like a SOB trying to get her unstuck. These things are cool but just won't be an option for any serious snow machine-er (especially up north). Not being able to recharge on the trail or leave the slead outside on an overnight trip would be a deal-breaker. Additionally, if there are any sort of electrical issues out on the trail, good luck. You'll have to call in the national guard to get her out in one piece.
It’s a good concept, but this isn’t practical or realistic for anybody besides people who have a huge property to ride on. Anyone that’s going on trails or going anywhere with it, especially in these remote locations that snowmobiles are used in, would not be able to find any charge location- ever.
Im used to being able to load and throw these things around by myself, but a snowmobile that weighs like a tank is probably the worst one you could ever choose to ride on. Good luck maneuvering- at all. Anybody who’s rode for more than five minutes would realize that this tank would be an awful choice to ride on lol.
6:36, that's not regen. That is what setting your hand grip heaters are set at. The same button below is your thumb throttle heat setting.
That thing is awesome I can just imagine how cool the jet ski would be so yes to that video too.
All the “noise and fumes” comments are comical.
Id definitely give electric a try once the tech is there but for now my two stoke gas motors do great.
If you guys want to see some truly amazing sledding search “No Snowmobile Has Gone Before”
These would be super useful at any ski hill for patrol and snow crew operations.. Where even a 60mile range is more then they would need in a day..
1:00 well, we've learned from GMC and Tesla, and other electric transportation companies, like flywheel, that you 100% DO have maintenance and things that break on them.
That button you said was regen is heating adjustemt for the handles😊
Like Skidoo, Taiga is from Quebec, Canada and has been testing their EV snow machines for a few years. Impressive machines. And yes you need two of them, one for you and one for your wife!☃️
I will wait till the big 3 offer them