Thanks John for making this comprehensive video, it was super helpful in making my splitboard. It covered things that weren't mentioned in the Voile split kit, as well as provided a visual for the work that made the entire process so much easier and a splitboard that couldn't have turned out better! Stay safe in the bc and enjoy the snow!
I think the biggest thing to keep in mind when placing the hooks on a full reverse camber/banana rocker board is that you want the hooks to pivot/rotate freely. It you place the hooks too far towards the nose/tail of the board where it curves up, then they may dig into the top sheet when you try to rotate them.
Tips I found useful. Grinding down the tip and tail where you had to hack saw. (Hacksaw blade half as thick as carbide blade). Pounding in t-nuts with socket to make flush. Half way building myself and girlfriend boards. Great video as the instructions can be confusing at times.
It's possible to use a table saw, but sometimes difficult to adapt the board sidecut to the rip fence. It you can somehow jig it up, go for it. Make sure blade can cut hardened steel if cutting the edge material or inserts.
Bandsaw might work, depends on the quality of the blade. Inserts and steel edges are tempered(heat treated). It's very hard material. When we cut out factory built boards, we use a bandsaw but we are only cutting along the perimeter edge which wraps around the entire board half, but never through the edge. Just make sure bandsaw blade can cut hardened steel.
+Leonard Christensen you still have contact points. They are usually the last few inches before the rise of your nose and tail. Because the board is reverse camber they are just harder to catch because they are raised up higher depending upon what degree of rocker your board has.
As for the skins, it really doesn't matter with a reverse camber board. The reason that they say you don't want the length of the skins to go past the contact point is because if they do, then they are more like likely to get snow between the adhesive and the base of the board. This can sometimes cause the skins to work loose and not stick to the base. You may want to rig up a tail attachment for this particular setup to provide a little extra security.
what about using a bandsaw with a brand new blade? there are steel t nuts (3) already in the center of my board, as well as thicket steel on the tip and tail
a worm drive circle saw will cut right thru the burton inserts if they are in the middle...really better to cut a standard board as far as perfectly straight goes it doesn't matter in the end the board is put together for riding ANYWAY! I have cut a few w just a line and my eye!
appreciate the video. finding your balance point for the mounting of the touring clips is irrelevant though. Thats a good trick for actual skis but think about the T nuts and hardware you still haven't installed. and because its a split board and not dedicated skis mounts on either ski will not be in the same locations front to back. Thanks for the vid though.
Wear a dust mask! and gloves. The fibers go airborn! My hands are really itchy and I probably breathed a bunch tiny fibers into my lungs. Otherwise, great video.
When cutting your splitboard, a band saw will work but can be difficult to maintain an accurate straight cut. Voile recommends using a circular saw with a metal cutting blade if you need to cut through a center t-nut. As the video explains, you want to use a metal cutting hack saw blade to finish the cuts on the tip and tail through the metal edge. Let us know if other questions. Thx! -Voile
Where should I place pivoting hooks on a banana/rocker board? The contact point is in the middle.. According to the manual the climbing skins should not exceed the contact point near the tail of the board. The question is again what happens if the board is a rocker?
If there are any channels or brackets down the center of your solid board, you'll run into issues. Otherwise, you'll be good to go. Check out the V-Tail splitboard on www.voile.com to see where we mount the hooks and clip.
Thanks John for making this comprehensive video, it was super helpful in making my splitboard. It covered things that weren't mentioned in the Voile split kit, as well as provided a visual for the work that made the entire process so much easier and a splitboard that couldn't have turned out better! Stay safe in the bc and enjoy the snow!
I think the biggest thing to keep in mind when placing the hooks on a full reverse camber/banana rocker board is that you want the hooks to pivot/rotate freely. It you place the hooks too far towards the nose/tail of the board where it curves up, then they may dig into the top sheet when you try to rotate them.
Tips I found useful. Grinding down the tip and tail where you had to hack saw. (Hacksaw blade half as thick as carbide blade). Pounding in t-nuts with socket to make flush. Half way building myself and girlfriend boards. Great video as the instructions can be confusing at times.
It is a lot of work but a cool project. Great video and thanks for posting.
It's possible to use a table saw, but sometimes difficult to adapt the board sidecut to the rip fence. It you can somehow jig it up, go for it. Make sure blade can cut hardened steel if cutting the edge material or inserts.
Bandsaw might work, depends on the quality of the blade. Inserts and steel edges are tempered(heat treated). It's very hard material. When we cut out factory built boards, we use a bandsaw but we are only cutting along the perimeter edge which wraps around the entire board half, but never through the edge. Just make sure bandsaw blade can cut hardened steel.
6:50 If your snowboard is rocker, and dont have any contact points, where is the best place to put the pivoting hooks?
+Leonard Christensen you still have contact points. They are usually the last few inches before the rise of your nose and tail. Because the board is reverse camber they are just harder to catch because they are raised up higher depending upon what degree of rocker your board has.
As for the skins, it really doesn't matter with a reverse camber board. The reason that they say you don't want the length of the skins to go past the contact point is because if they do, then they are more like likely to get snow between the adhesive and the base of the board. This can sometimes cause the skins to work loose and not stick to the base. You may want to rig up a tail attachment for this particular setup to provide a little extra security.
nice inspiration!, I got 2 old school boards on my packet. I've to decide the first one, I think the short.. Heave Is the way? thx a lot. Umbe
If my pivoting hooks aren't tight and the board folds lengthwise when picked up, should I remove them, move the location and reinstall?
Did you cut the touring binding template to center the touring binding on each board half?
what about using a bandsaw with a brand new blade? there are steel t nuts (3) already in the center of my board, as well as thicket steel on the tip and tail
Has any problem, cracking or chipping of the spar urethane occurred? Why would spar urethane be preferred over epoxy resin, polyurethane, or varnish?
Can I use this kit on a Burton 3D hole pattern?
can you do this to a board with a carbon fiber web?
Yes you can. Use a new melamine blade
It seems like a table saw would be a better option, do you have any experience with that?
Bro you guys were hard-core 10 years ago.
i've got reverse camber on my board so how do you suggest i find the contact points?
Buy a full camber that’s how
a worm drive circle saw will cut right thru the burton inserts if they are in the middle...really better to cut a standard board as far as perfectly straight goes it doesn't matter in the end the board is put together for riding ANYWAY! I have cut a few w just a line and my eye!
Use blue lock tight on bolts.
appreciate the video. finding your balance point for the mounting of the touring clips is irrelevant though. Thats a good trick for actual skis but think about the T nuts and hardware you still haven't installed. and because its a split board and not dedicated skis mounts on either ski will not be in the same locations front to back. Thanks for the vid though.
Great video thank you :)
Wear a dust mask! and gloves. The fibers go airborn! My hands are really itchy and I probably breathed a bunch tiny fibers into my lungs. Otherwise, great video.
When cutting your splitboard, a band saw will work but can be difficult to maintain an accurate straight cut. Voile recommends using a circular saw with a metal cutting blade if you need to cut through a center t-nut. As the video explains, you want to use a metal cutting hack saw blade to finish the cuts on the tip and tail through the metal edge. Let us know if other questions. Thx! -Voile
Where should I place pivoting hooks on a banana/rocker board? The contact point is in the middle..
According to the manual the climbing skins should not exceed the contact point near the tail of the board. The question is again what happens if the board is a rocker?
I have a swallow tail board w/ the channel system, am I able to use this kit?
If there are any channels or brackets down the center of your solid board, you'll run into issues. Otherwise, you'll be good to go. Check out the V-Tail splitboard on www.voile.com to see where we mount the hooks and clip.
I made the mistake of not incorporating the width of the saw blade and didn't get two even halfs...
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is a reverse camber 153 too small for a splitboard? i'm 5 11 and 145 lbs