I like to try different setups with different lenght skis rental and demodays. Small changes make so much for the experience like changing poles to lurk changes balance and how much you have pressure in each foot in turns. Voile 3pin cable with a shorter medium width ski with BCX6 or similar light boot is my favourit for the resort use. With that you need to focus and keep the balance just right.
Another interesting thing about tele skiing I have found.....no knee issues after 50 years. I have pushed it hard, taken all manner of tumbles but no knee problems. My theory is because of a low stance, in the lunge position the knees aren't as susceptible to the usual ski knee issues.
Started tele skiing in the '70's. I'm a relatively big guy, 6'2'', 190 lbs. and I exploded every tele binding that came down the pike. I carried a full replacement binding with me. However I loved the feel of the 75 as I get down low and skied difficult terrain including the Haute. When NTN came along I went with it as I no longer explode bindings.
I'm with ya. Started tele in the late 70s and finally made a descent tele turn in the early 80s! First attempts were on the Rossi Horizon ski, I don't think it had metal edges.
Another point on tele skiing for around 50 years. I have a Morton's foot which is having the second toe longer than the big toe. It's common, around 20% of the population has this different anatomy. I have gone through the whole evolution of tele boats from leather with metal reinforced 75 mm pin holes to now a Garment NTN boat. I still have all my old boots including the whole range of black diamond tele boots. When the terminators first came out like 30 years ago I developed "terminator toe" or toe pinch from the bellows because I get so low in my turns. I'd have a scab on that second toe all ski season. I tried all types of things to prevent it but nothing was very affective. I'm in my mid '70's now and I developed a hammer toe on the right foot and a small one on the left from tele skiing with a Morton's foot.. Well this makes toe pinch even worse because the second joint in the toe protrudes upward. No way would I not tele so I took my Garment boots and using a Dremel cut a hole in the bellows over that toe. I filled it with marine type cocking and in true free heel tradition put black duct tape over it. I just got back from a ski vacation with family and I can happily report it works like a charm. No toe pinch, boot preforms normally, toes are warm and dry. Oh and as most of you know there is nothing like flying down terrain making GS tele turns, roaring down a large mogul field in sync with the terrain as you essentially hop from the top of a mogul to the next or of course gliding serenely down a steep slope with a foot of fresh. Free the heel free the mind and accommodator your toes but it's a small price to pay!
@@chamfly5783 Exactly, my first several years was on an Asnes backcountry ski, double camber, no metal edges. I learned to ski down Teton Pass on them.
"There are no wrong answers" is correct! Buy a pair of properly fitting Tele boots and build a system around them. Then go out (Take a lesson from someone you don't know!) and get a feeling for the style of turns that make you smile. The final step is to ski until your face hurts from laughing so much!
35+ year telemarker here and on NTN for about 10. Would never go back to 75mm just for the performance issues. I respect the 75 folks, but been there done that. Curious about the TTS though
I’m with ya there my big-footed brother. I’m hoarding 75mm stuff (especially boots!) since that is the only option for us. I’m scared to death I’m gonna wear out all my gear before my body wears out at some point in the future!
@@voilemfgThis is going to sound strange, but could you technically use it with an alpine touring boot (i.e. no bellows)? Not saying that it would be optimal for telemark turns, but there would be a lot more boots to choose from if you could (especially for lighter ones). Besides, since I switched from 75mm to NTN a few years ago I have the impression that bellows aren't really part of what is providing the "action" of the boots and bindings system.
I like to try different setups with different lenght skis rental and demodays. Small changes make so much for the experience like changing poles to lurk changes balance and how much you have pressure in each foot in turns.
Voile 3pin cable with a shorter medium width ski with BCX6 or similar light boot is my favourit for the resort use. With that you need to focus and keep the balance just right.
Another interesting thing about tele skiing I have found.....no knee issues after 50 years. I have pushed it hard, taken all manner of tumbles but no knee problems. My theory is because of a low stance, in the lunge position the knees aren't as susceptible to the usual ski knee issues.
Started tele skiing in the '70's. I'm a relatively big guy, 6'2'', 190 lbs. and I exploded every tele binding that came down the pike. I carried a full replacement binding with me. However I loved the feel of the 75 as I get down low and skied difficult terrain including the Haute. When NTN came along I went with it as I no longer explode bindings.
Glad to hear that NTN is working out for you!
I'm with ya. Started tele in the late 70s and finally made a descent tele turn in the early 80s! First attempts were on the Rossi Horizon ski, I don't think it had metal edges.
Another point on tele skiing for around 50 years. I have a Morton's foot which is having the second toe longer than the big toe. It's common, around 20% of the population has this different anatomy. I have gone through the whole evolution of tele boats from leather with metal reinforced 75 mm pin holes to now a Garment NTN boat. I still have all my old boots including the whole range of black diamond tele boots. When the terminators first came out like 30 years ago I developed "terminator toe" or toe pinch from the bellows because I get so low in my turns. I'd have a scab on that second toe all ski season. I tried all types of things to prevent it but nothing was very affective. I'm in my mid '70's now and I developed a hammer toe on the right foot and a small one on the left from tele skiing with a Morton's foot.. Well this makes toe pinch even worse because the second joint in the toe protrudes upward. No way would I not tele so I took my Garment boots and using a Dremel cut a hole in the bellows over that toe. I filled it with marine type cocking and in true free heel tradition put black duct tape over it. I just got back from a ski vacation with family and I can happily report it works like a charm. No toe pinch, boot preforms normally, toes are warm and dry. Oh and as most of you know there is nothing like flying down terrain making GS tele turns, roaring down a large mogul field in sync with the terrain as you essentially hop from the top of a mogul to the next or of course gliding serenely down a steep slope with a foot of fresh. Free the heel free the mind and accommodator your toes but it's a small price to pay!
Awesome! I remember trying to tele in the 70s on XC skis with no edges, that was exciting!
@@chamfly5783 Exactly, my first several years was on an Asnes backcountry ski, double camber, no metal edges. I learned to ski down Teton Pass on them.
"There are no wrong answers" is correct! Buy a pair of properly fitting Tele boots and build a system around them. Then go out (Take a lesson from someone you don't know!) and get a feeling for the style of turns that make you smile. The final step is to ski until your face hurts from laughing so much!
No contest. I ski generally Meidjo,
…but my favourite is a Hammerhead frankenbinding with a tech toe. Best of both.
I guess their TTS is similar.
35+ year telemarker here and on NTN for about 10. Would never go back to 75mm just for the performance issues. I respect the 75 folks, but been there done that. Curious about the TTS though
Feel free to hit us up and ask any questions you may have about TTS! Happy to help.
Yeah.... At 32 mondo size, I wish I had the choice...
I’m with ya there my big-footed brother. I’m hoarding 75mm stuff (especially boots!) since that is the only option for us. I’m scared to death I’m gonna wear out all my gear before my body wears out at some point in the future!
I would love to demo an NTN set up. Have yet to find the opportunity. wahhh...
If you ever find yourself in Salt Lake City, we have a full demo fleet of NTN boots and bindings you could try out at the Voile Retail Store!
Can TTS bindings release while the heel assembly is being used?
We make no claims of releaseability.
the bishop bmf binding is amazing with 75mm can't be beat
Ntn is the only releasable one
Does the TTS actually use the duck butt?
The TTS Transit does not. The tech toe pins and the heel assembly keep you locked in on this binding!
@@voilemfgThis is going to sound strange, but could you technically use it with an alpine touring boot (i.e. no bellows)? Not saying that it would be optimal for telemark turns, but there would be a lot more boots to choose from if you could (especially for lighter ones). Besides, since I switched from 75mm to NTN a few years ago I have the impression that bellows aren't really part of what is providing the "action" of the boots and bindings system.
@@audetnicolas This binding was designed to work with telemark boots. We do not recommend pairing the TTS Transit with AT boots. Hope that helps!
You should make clear that TTS only works with NTN boots with dynafit toe connections, not every NTN boot.
True, good point!
The TTS doesn't use the "duck butt" of the NTN standard, so a non-NTN boot like a Scarpa F3 would work. In the end it's not really an NTN binding...