Farke is doing Meslier no favours by keep playing him. His confidence is shot, the back 4s confidence in the keeper is shot, for his own sake he needs taking out of 1st team action. If Farke doesn't think Darlow is up to it, he has to sign someone in January, which to be honest he should've done in the summer when Cooper and Johansson were both available for relatively little money. Who is available now, I'm not sure, but if we stick with Meslier i think we'll struggle to get automatic,he's making to many basic errors on a regular basis.
Lack of game management has been an issue from day 1 with Farke. I wanted him gone after play off final no show. Liam Rosenior would do wonders with this squad.
We are top ffs, Rosenor couldn’t better that and last season we got 90 points, that would get you up every year except last year! Farke record is far better than Bielsa yet he is worshipped even though he wouldn’t change and was shipping 4 to ^ goals a game in the end
Hey Mate. I've been a Leeds United supporter since 1962, live in Oxfordshire. Never seen such a shabby performance. B.B would turn in his grave, God bless him. Better call for our Norman and big Jack and get "sniffer" up front. We'll go up, I hope, but only just. We need a get on with it striker and about three defenders, Oh yeah a goalie ! A side we should have wrapped up, run us off the field. Shameful !
Well said Ollie, I totally agree with you 100 % i feel sorry for the young lad but both farke and the keeper must take responsibility for costing Leeds dearly it’s time for a change
We have known a couple of seasons that Meslier should have been moved on. The question is why does Farker keep selecting Meslier. Must give Darlow the opportunity to take a measure of if he is suitable or not before we decide what to do, but Meslier must be dropped.
Agree with what your saying Ollie but Farke is not even using last windows signings, what is his problem with issac Schmidt . why did we buy the lad in the first place . Makes no sense to me whatsoever.
New keeper needed meslier will cost us promotion he has darlow on the bench waiting for his chance to shine meslier Is not the best goalkeeper in the league he’s let too many goals in Id sign keylor navas or bring kasper schemichael back
I agreed to everything you said Ollie just an update on yesterday my missis who was smug got her come uppance today as she is a crazy rangers fan so I was hiding in the toilet cheering on hibs lol
Yes Leeds are not ready for premier league foot ball with this current side, but a few of the current players are. The Championship is hard work Every week, even the teams near the bottom of the table have learnt how to construct a wall of defenders. Shots from outside of the area are a must and that type of player is crucial.
@@OllieWard I'm sure you know the football (soccer) better than I do. I'm relatively new to the sport compared to the other sports I follow. I have been a Leeds fan since 2018.
There's such thing as catch the ball.some fans say stop getting on his back they would be saying that end of season if we don't go up.and the reason for that our goal keepers blunders
Farke is the underlying issue here. He has not replaced Mes or Barndoor and his subs are crazy. Wober was poor for two goals in the last two games. Ramazani and Isaac not playing and no Gnonto even though James was poor.
Farke is doing my head in. We should be walking in this league. He seems to have his favs and pre planned subs. It's costing us big time. End of the day, if we don't go up farke is gone. If we go up farke will be found out in premier league.
I've been saying Meslier wasn't good enough for the last four years when everyone hated me. I blamed him for us being relegated. But now I think the criticism has gone too far.
Hi Ollie, Meslier has make us suffer in the last 4 years, that's why big Sam in charge for only last 4 games when we were in Premier league in 2022, the 1st thing that Big Sam did is to get rid of Meslier!!! Then Farke took over and get Meslier back again and we also suffered a great deal with him. Farke has to know that there is an English expression that YOU CAN NOT MAKE A SHXT SHINE!!!
Any opposition will have as part of their game plan to put our goalie under as much pressure as possible, he's unfortunately fragile now and our defence knows this.
Owners need to splash the cash. Keeper, 9 and a 10 needed for last 2 seasons. Farke has faults but he can only play squad he has. Owners are still doing it on the cheap.
Just to add a point... The 3 teams who went up beginning of the season, occupy the relegation zone in the prem after 20 games. Southampton, who we couldn't beat, have amassed 6 points and sit bottom place.
1) i think Meslier did have a stinker But the way this is fired Up is wild and unfair. The First and third wouldn't have happend If we had defencive Players playing in their Natural positions. Ampedu is no CB He was crap wöber is No left Back He hasn,t the legs to Play Like Firpo. We all know Byram has issues why did both LB Play and Not Schmitt ? We need Darlow in the Cup to give Meslier a breather. Forget a new goalie won't Happen you would need one who can Help us now Plus is good enough For the PL . 2) Is our Squad with Farke as "Daddy" the Happy Family we were told . There has to be issues in the locker room. No Schmitt No Ramasani Gnonto all of the sudden drop Off Solomon outraged being subbed at Blackburn Lots of questions. I would rather Talk about Tanakas Goal of the month or how good we can Look at Piroe or James to pull Something Out of the hat .
@@OllieWard Ollie If a Player has a stinker then of course your entitled to talk about it . I myself See it from a different Angle . Any other Player in any other Position can have a real Bad Game Open Goal missed or whatever we Fans give the Player a mouth full and move on. But as a Goalie you have Only one small mistake and your in the Focus of the crowd. I don't rate Meslier But he's what we have full Stop. After this Shit storm i wouldn't Play him again For His health Sake He will need a shrink
He needs competition for the number 1 spot i think there could be a good goalkeeper in him but he needs competition to bring him on and make him a better keeper also who are our goalkeeper coaches
Agree fully but this manager is to blame his game management is shocking, i am sick of hearing he got Norwich promoted twice we are not Norwich and that was 6 years ago the game has evolved since then with all these younger managers coming in but Farke has not evolved still thinks what worked for Norwich will work for us but he has proven wrong so many times and he is not learning listen to post match interviews its the same 💩 from him and sorry but for me he has to go we need to look to the future and he is not it
I said to a friend of mine our goalkeeper needs go he just keeps dragging our great team down blunder after blunder I said 2 seasons ago he's no good get rid .leeds ntd needs to invest in a top goalkeeper leeds deserve that , it's not the team letting the fans down it's the twit between the sticks ,,time he went and that other waist of space Bamford get rid ....
You can't be a good defender and wondering if you've got someone behind you in the same respect of,you can't be good goalkeeper if you haven't got a good defence in front of you.
Ollie, Meslier needs to be sold, no ifs or buts. He’s lost confidence in himself, his team mates and the fans, he’s a liability, we can’t keep going on like this. Farke needs to grow a pair and show some metal, because he’s to blame as well. His timing of subs and choice of subs has been questionable. He will be a casualty if we don’t go up this year, he fluffed it last season, we can’t afford to lose out again. I hope that the players don’t have dogs because they can’t keep hold of the lead. 😂
EVERYWHERE All Podcast Channels said FARKE Must Go..But Paraag Marathe of 49er kept saying He had full confidence in Farke...So what are you going to do about it, people? Revolt or something ❓🤭
Not defending him but who would you replace him with if brought someone in? I agree he’s been in poor form but as true fans if he plays we have to support him and not get on his back . Alaw mot
He's just not up to it. You never see him make any great saves, I don't think he's ever saved a penalty, he is hopeless at playing out from the back and over the last 5 years or so I reckon he's cost us up to 30 points. No-one wants to destroy anyone but enough is enough we need a top class keeper and another striker to get us back up
Honestly, Meslier was never good enought. He was allways one of our biggest weak links! He has done some good saves, and a few good games. But honestly, for me he was never ever good enought. Thanks for your service, bye
it is quite sad that Farke thinks Meslier is a fantastic keeper. it shows his disregard for Leeds as a club and their fans. for me, this was the worst game Meslier played. against the side with the worst home record in the championship, Meslier looked ridiculous for all 3 Hull goals.
The team must be so frustrated with him. He has played two hundred games , but has not improved and actually got worse . We need a new keeper and a Chapman style of striker . Sorry, time to remove him. Farke game management is wrong too.
Farkes fault he keeps picking messlia and surely farke can see what we all can see . Darlo is the wales no 1 why isn't he getting a chance at least to push messlia . Farkes treatment of shmitt is disgusting aswell . Go and throw 5-6 million at stoke for there keeper! Cheers ollie 👍
Confidence is everything for a goalie. Videos like this undermine both the goalkeeper and the team and significantly reduce our chances of promotion. Very disappointing.
What a load of rubbish if players are that mentally weak by letting videos like this affect them there in the wrong profession. That’s if they even watch these videos. Honestly this comment is laughable.
I don’t agree with this. They can be accountable for bad performances. I’m not hating on Meslier personally. I just think he’s not good enough to play for the club I support..
@ I think that players do watch videos and read comments such as these. Positive reinforcement is better than criticism in enhancing performance which is why many sportsmen employ psychologists. To suggest sporting abilities are unaffected by criticism is not based upon any evidence that I am aware of. I think it is particularly relevant for goalkeepers who are under the most intense pressure. Rather than single out individual mistakes it is a much better idea to get behind the team to maximise the chances of success and promotion
Farke is tactically inept only has a plan A will only pick the same players regardless to form or fitness never variates with his subs and uses them like a chuck of the dice more hoping they will impact rather than having a tactical reason and gane plan ...Farke may work in the Champ but the Prem we will need a far better manager ....Mess I agree needs dropping no were near good enough you don't lose a 3-1 lead with 10 min to go due to the GK and Mess keeps doing it like a lot of the fan base we have had enough if Farke continues to back him and play him then Farke is negligent I pray to God we stabilise and end as champions with the squad we have the is no excuses not to finish in the top 2 this season will define not just Farke but the current LUFC squad its time to step up and show why we belong in the Prem because current proformaces tell other wise.....sorry for the rant Oli lol I love my club and this is really frustrating lol ....great as all ways mate 👍....MOT
Farke should take blame aswell, he is putting the lad in this position week in week out. It must be pissing some of the players off.
Agreed 100%
Look at their reaction to the second goal against Hull. They’re done with him.
Not just some ….
If Karl Darlow doesn’t get picked now he should hand in a transfer request or he has no professional self respect.
Surely. Hes worth a punt
His blunders are too regular now, we MUST replace him or forget promotion
Agreed.
Farke is doing Meslier no favours by keep playing him. His confidence is shot, the back 4s confidence in the keeper is shot, for his own sake he needs taking out of 1st team action. If Farke doesn't think Darlow is up to it, he has to sign someone in January, which to be honest he should've done in the summer when Cooper and Johansson were both available for relatively little money. Who is available now, I'm not sure, but if we stick with Meslier i think we'll struggle to get automatic,he's making to many basic errors on a regular basis.
His positioning has been poor for 3 years
Temember the Everton goal in the preniership
Lack of game management has been an issue from day 1 with Farke. I wanted him gone after play off final no show. Liam Rosenior would do wonders with this squad.
I said that
We are top ffs, Rosenor couldn’t better that and last season we got 90 points, that would get you up every year except last year! Farke record is far better than Bielsa yet he is worshipped even though he wouldn’t change and was shipping 4 to ^ goals a game in the end
So the last ten games of last season and our clueless performance in the final are acceptable. Ipswich fresh from league one got 96 points
At least 6 points dropt cos of him
And the rest.
11 points to be precise n that’s a fact , Sunderland and Hull away is 4 🤬🤬
@@johnkemp4922forwards cost us more with lack of good finishing but no one mentions that
Alex Cairns is a good steady keeper and must be worthy of a try.
He’s a decent shot stopper too.
I said years ago that the defence has no confidence in Meslier and that he’s crap.
Yep agreed.
He’s messed up at least twice this year losing us points through basic mistakes.
Hey Mate. I've been a Leeds United supporter since 1962, live in Oxfordshire. Never seen such a shabby performance. B.B would turn in his grave, God bless him. Better call for our Norman and big Jack and get "sniffer" up front. We'll go up, I hope, but only just. We need a get on with it striker and about three defenders, Oh yeah a goalie ! A side we should have wrapped up, run us off the field. Shameful !
I just really hope we don’t stick with him !
Well said Ollie, I totally agree with you 100 % i feel sorry for the young lad but both farke and the keeper must take responsibility for costing Leeds dearly it’s time for a change
He's a man, he's no longer that young lad.
Exactly!
We have known a couple of seasons that Meslier should have been moved on. The question is why does Farker keep selecting Meslier. Must give Darlow the opportunity to take a measure of if he is suitable or not before we decide what to do, but Meslier must be dropped.
Darlow needs the opportunity.
Many have known this but our board is as stubborn as Farke. They cannot blame the previous owners any longer.
Agree with what your saying Ollie but Farke is not even using last windows signings, what is his problem with issac Schmidt . why did we buy the lad in the first place . Makes no sense to me whatsoever.
Agreed, and on a 4 year contract,crazy
I don’t get the schmidt deal or even the Ramazani one is odd recently.
Farke's history shows he doesn't like to change things even when he looses 15 games on the trot
It’s not all Meslier’s fault, he should have been replaced ages ago.
New keeper needed meslier will cost us promotion he has darlow on the bench waiting for his chance to shine meslier Is not the best goalkeeper in the league he’s let too many goals in Id sign keylor navas or bring kasper schemichael back
meslier never play for leeds again
I agreed to everything you said Ollie just an update on yesterday my missis who was smug got her come uppance today as she is a crazy rangers fan so I was hiding in the toilet cheering on hibs lol
😂😂
Meslier has shot through needs to be stood down or it will be playoffs
Agreed.
Farke is the only person that doesn't think he's shit.
True 😂
Yes Leeds are not ready for premier league foot ball with this current side, but a few of the current players are. The Championship is hard work Every week, even the teams near the bottom of the table have learnt how to construct a wall of defenders. Shots from outside of the area are a must and that type of player is crucial.
I agree with all of what you said except about Dan James. I think he has been good even in the last few games.
Really? I think his decision making last few has been poor.
@@OllieWard I'm sure you know the football (soccer) better than I do. I'm relatively new to the sport compared to the other sports I follow. I have been a Leeds fan since 2018.
Dan James end product is not good his crossing is absolutely rubbish.
@@Tony-leeds He's 3rd in goals and 4th in assists. And has speed. Who would you play instead of him?
@bobp5523 he's 26 now at his peak but some of his decision making like the end ball is not good enough
There's such thing as catch the ball.some fans say stop getting on his back they would be saying that end of season if we don't go up.and the reason for that our goal keepers blunders
We're top of the league more by luck than design, this needs to change in agreement with all you've said mate
Yes mate! MOT
Its not a downfall its incompetence by our manager and board of directors. The bs of 49rs data driven retention and recruitment is pure waffle.
Give darlow a chance if he's good enough for Wales he's good enough for Leeds.
Remember if we don’t get promoted these players will not get their promotion bonus or PL salaries of certain into the PL..
Totally agree my man he needs to go but I bet farke keeps him in
I’m not sure he does.
@OllieWard I hope your right mate 👍
Farke is the underlying issue here. He has not replaced Mes or Barndoor and his subs are crazy. Wober was poor for two goals in the last two games. Ramazani and Isaac not playing and no Gnonto even though James was poor.
No brainer bye bye Meslier
Farke is doing my head in. We should be walking in this league. He seems to have his favs and pre planned subs. It's costing us big time. End of the day, if we don't go up farke is gone. If we go up farke will be found out in premier league.
We should be about 9 points ahead.
I've been saying Meslier wasn't good enough for the last four years when everyone hated me. I blamed him for us being relegated. But now I think the criticism has gone too far.
It’s never a personal attack, he’s just not good enough.
Hi Ollie, Meslier has make us suffer in the last 4 years, that's why big Sam in charge for only last 4 games when we were in Premier league in 2022, the 1st thing that Big Sam did is to get rid of Meslier!!! Then Farke took over and get Meslier back again and we also suffered a great deal with him. Farke has to know that there is an English expression that YOU CAN NOT MAKE A SHXT SHINE!!!
Yeah I get you, it’s odd.
You should also do the downfall of Bamford. Farke is also to blame since he never puts some else in goal or at least does a goal keeper substitution
Bamford one is worrying; he’s terrible now.
My Leeds have a 6ft 6 goalie who can't catch or punch a ball can't kick or throw a ball 2a Leed player and a clueless manager how are we still top 😮
It’s worrying.
Any opposition will have as part of their game plan to put our goalie under as much pressure as possible, he's unfortunately fragile now and our defence knows this.
Yes Exaclty this!
Owners need to splash the cash. Keeper, 9 and a 10 needed for last 2 seasons. Farke has faults but he can only play squad he has. Owners are still doing it on the cheap.
Yep! You’re right.
The problem is he doesn't play the squad he has. His choices at and timing of subs is bizarre to say the least.
Your right ollie he has got worse. Regarding Darlow got to be better but not a lot of confidence in him.
Darlow needs a chance.
Just to add a point...
The 3 teams who went up beginning of the season, occupy the relegation zone in the prem after 20 games.
Southampton, who we couldn't beat, have amassed 6 points and sit bottom place.
Yep. It’s worrying. Changes are needed.
@@keithfreeman7725 - we would need a new first 11 to have any chance of survival. The gap in quality between the prem and championship is huge.
Meslier, Bamford, Wober, Firpo, Harrison and Gelhardt all need to go.
Yeah true!
Don't blame Ilan for nothing mistakes r mistakes move on fam he will recover
He’s made too many now.
1) i think Meslier did have a stinker But the way this is fired Up is wild and unfair. The First and third wouldn't have happend If we had defencive Players playing in their Natural positions.
Ampedu is no CB He was crap wöber is No left Back He hasn,t the legs to Play Like Firpo. We all know Byram has issues why did both LB Play and Not Schmitt ? We need Darlow in the Cup to give Meslier a breather. Forget a new goalie won't Happen you would need one who can Help us now Plus is good enough For the PL .
2) Is our Squad with Farke as "Daddy" the Happy Family we were told . There has to be issues in the locker room. No Schmitt No Ramasani Gnonto all of the sudden drop Off Solomon outraged being subbed at Blackburn
Lots of questions.
I would rather Talk about Tanakas Goal of the month or how good we can Look at Piroe or James to pull Something Out of the hat .
I understand that. But in all fairness he’s cost us so much, I think it’s fair to have the chat about him. More positivity will resume
@@OllieWard Ollie If a Player has a stinker then of course your entitled to talk about it . I myself See it from a different Angle . Any other Player in any other Position can have a real Bad Game Open Goal missed or whatever we Fans give the Player a mouth full and move on. But as a Goalie you have
Only one small mistake and your in the Focus of the crowd. I don't rate Meslier But he's what we have full Stop.
After this Shit storm i wouldn't Play him again
For His health Sake
He will need a shrink
He needs competition for the number 1 spot i think there could be a good goalkeeper in him but he needs competition to bring him on and make him a better keeper also who are our goalkeeper coaches
Yeah I get that!
Darlow is Wales No 1 surely he's good enough to play for Leeds give him a run.
Agree fully but this manager is to blame his game management is shocking, i am sick of hearing he got Norwich promoted twice we are not Norwich and that was 6 years ago the game has evolved since then with all these younger managers coming in but Farke has not evolved still thinks what worked for Norwich will work for us but he has proven wrong so many times and he is not learning listen to post match interviews its the same 💩 from him and sorry but for me he has to go we need to look to the future and he is not it
I said to a friend of mine our goalkeeper needs go he just keeps dragging our great team down blunder after blunder I said 2 seasons ago he's no good get rid .leeds ntd needs to invest in a top goalkeeper leeds deserve that , it's not the team letting the fans down it's the twit between the sticks ,,time he went and that other waist of space Bamford get rid ....
You can't be a good defender and wondering if you've got someone behind you in the same respect of,you can't be good goalkeeper if you haven't got a good defence in front of you.
True!
AGREE WITH ALL LUFC ALAW MOT
MOT
Ollie, Meslier needs to be sold, no ifs or buts. He’s lost confidence in himself, his team mates and the fans, he’s a liability, we can’t keep going on like this. Farke needs to grow a pair and show some metal, because he’s to blame as well. His timing of subs and choice of subs has been questionable. He will be a casualty if we don’t go up this year, he fluffed it last season, we can’t afford to lose out again. I hope that the players don’t have dogs because they can’t keep hold of the lead. 😂
EVERYWHERE All Podcast Channels said FARKE Must Go..But Paraag Marathe of 49er kept saying He had full confidence in Farke...So what are you going to do about it, people? Revolt or something ❓🤭
I didn’t see Farke should go…
Not defending him but who would you replace him with if brought someone in? I agree he’s been in poor form but as true fans if he plays we have to support him and not get on his back . Alaw mot
Darlow surely needs a start?
@@OllieWardI think should obviously be given a chance but I don’t see him as any more talented gk
He's just not up to it. You never see him make any great saves, I don't think he's ever saved a penalty, he is hopeless at playing out from the back and over the last 5 years or so I reckon he's cost us up to 30 points. No-one wants to destroy anyone but enough is enough we need a top class keeper and another striker to get us back up
Exactly this!
Farke's game management has always been poor.
Honestly, Meslier was never good enought. He was allways one of our biggest weak links! He has done some good saves, and a few good games. But honestly, for me he was never ever good enought. Thanks for your service, bye
I agree pal!
Hiya olilie pal you good mate and ya darlow would be my choice worth a chance mot
Yeah all good pal! Hope you are too. Darlow is deffo worth a punt.
@OllieWard good glad too here your OK mate and ya I hope farke does aswell mes too be sold I think mot
Darlo should get his chance,, but others should be called out as well,, but we're still top,, we all need to calm down.. Mot
Exaclty this!
Meslier has been dreadful for 3 years. Of someone is silly enough to pay £10m+ for him we need to take it and spend well on an actual decent keeper.
Agreed!
it is quite sad that Farke thinks Meslier is a fantastic keeper. it shows his disregard for Leeds as a club and their fans. for me, this was the worst game Meslier played. against the side with the worst home record in the championship, Meslier looked ridiculous for all 3 Hull goals.
It’s worrying he thinks that.
The team must be so frustrated with him. He has played two hundred games , but has not improved and actually got worse . We need a new keeper and a Chapman style of striker . Sorry, time to remove him. Farke game management is wrong too.
The team are starting to turn sadly.
How bad must darlow be he has been mom for Wales
I’m not sure who Wales have played while Darlow has been in goal but I’m presuming he had a bit to do
@chrisholmes9284 he got man of the match twice and he starred for Hull last season
@@craigbiddington7429 unless Leeds sign a new keeper Darlow has to be given a chance, meslier is clearly struggling and to play him would be cruel
Liverpool reserve would be good
Kelliher is great. He doesn’t want a championship move though.
Farkes fault he keeps picking messlia and surely farke can see what we all can see . Darlo is the wales no 1 why isn't he getting a chance at least to push messlia . Farkes treatment of shmitt is disgusting aswell . Go and throw 5-6 million at stoke for there keeper! Cheers ollie 👍
Cheers pal!
Meslier value plummeting by the day. Should've sold him off in 2022.
You’re right.
I think he plays him against Harrogate
Surely not.
@OllieWard I've just that feeling he does
Enough is enough. He's getting worse with age
Yep.
He is very clumsy should not be no1 goal keeper he's not good enough
Darlow needs a start
remind me again how many saves hes made winning us how many points.......go back to mummy ollie and ask her to change your nappy
My mummy hasn’t changed my nappy in 2 years why would she start again?
Confidence is everything for a goalie. Videos like this undermine both the goalkeeper and the team and significantly reduce our chances of promotion. Very disappointing.
What a load of rubbish if players are that mentally weak by letting videos like this affect them there in the wrong profession. That’s if they even watch these videos. Honestly this comment is laughable.
I don’t agree with this. They can be accountable for bad performances. I’m not hating on Meslier personally. I just think he’s not good enough to play for the club I support..
@ I think that players do watch videos and read comments such as these. Positive reinforcement is better than criticism in enhancing performance which is why many sportsmen employ psychologists. To suggest sporting abilities are unaffected by criticism is not based upon any evidence that I am aware of. I think it is particularly relevant for goalkeepers who are under the most intense pressure. Rather than single out individual mistakes it is a much better idea to get behind the team to maximise the chances of success and promotion
Farke is tactically inept only has a plan A will only pick the same players regardless to form or fitness never variates with his subs and uses them like a chuck of the dice more hoping they will impact rather than having a tactical reason and gane plan ...Farke may work in the Champ but the Prem we will need a far better manager ....Mess I agree needs dropping no were near good enough you don't lose a 3-1 lead with 10 min to go due to the GK and Mess keeps doing it like a lot of the fan base we have had enough if Farke continues to back him and play him then Farke is negligent I pray to God we stabilise and end as champions with the squad we have the is no excuses not to finish in the top 2 this season will define not just Farke but the current LUFC squad its time to step up and show why we belong in the Prem because current proformaces tell other wise.....sorry for the rant Oli lol I love my club and this is really frustrating lol ....great as all ways mate 👍....MOT
MOT
Manager clueless
If we want to get promoted he has to go and a new keeper this month asap.
Who would you bring in mate?
Leeds lately still defending meslier 🤣 thank god for some commonsense from you
I love Max but I’ll need to chat to him.
He has to go.