Wolves aren’t called “The Wolves”, it’s just Wolves, and they’re very rarely ever called their full name of Wolverhampton unless you say Wolverhampton Wanderers
Leeds United's nickname used to be the Peacocks but in the 1960's our manager (Don Revie) was very supersticious and he believed birds to be bad luck. He got the club to get rid of the owl on our badge and to change our nickname to the whites. The following year we won our first ever major trophy, the League Cup.
I am very surprised that you of all people did not mention the fact that Chelsea have the Tudor Rose on their badge. It's quite interesting actually. Many southern football clubs have the Lancaster rose on their badge, as the south mostly supported the Lancaster claim. And in the North, many clubs, like Sheffield United, have the Withe Rose of York on their badge. In the capital however, being the seat of the victorious regime, the Tudor Rose is common. They used to have three roses actually, to symbolise each of the three houses.
It's only the Yorkshire clubs who have the White Rose of York on their badge, while the North Western (traditionally Lancastrian) clubs - like Blackburn and formerly Burnley - have the Red Rose of Lancaster. Which is where the Tudor Rose comes from, as it was created in the aftermath of the War of the Roses. Which the Lancastrian Tudors won, which is why the Red Rose is the outer of the Tudor Rose. As at that point in the time the ruler wasn't from London - they were Northern - that was just the capital city.
@@kyledunn8205 bit of trivia for you. there's a small village in Lancashire north of Clitheroe called 'Dunsop Bridge'. nothing much there few houses and a garage. but the telephone box by the stream is unique.the glass on outside of said telephone kiosk has a circular frosted diagram of cities all over United Kingdom. when you stand inside phone box a plaque reads..'THIS IS CALCULATED GEOGRAPHICAL CENTRE OF THE UNITED KINGDOM!'
@@TwistedAlphonso1 I’m an English Brit and I find your comment very racist, if it wasn’t for me identifying as being more English than British then I would sue your arse off, when it was the English between themselves found out how to ferment fruit.
That was very interesting, thank you! West Ham's ground was actually just over the border in East Ham [They didn't join to become Newham till later], and the nearest underground station was Upton Park [West Ham station was two stops further down the line, East Ham one stop further up]. The ground was usually referred to as Upton Park. There was a legend, myth or whatever during WW2, that you could detect a German spy by getting him to say "Wolverhampton Wanderers" - it being believed that Germans always pronounced the letter "w" as "v".
When Thames Ironworks renamed themselves West Ham, they played in West Ham at the time. The move to the Boleyn Ground didn't come until after the name change.
West Ham used to be called Thames ironworks not Thomas ironworks, because of the club’s east London heritage rather than because of who our manager was. Another interesting fact about our history comes from the history of our crest. It used to be a picture of a castle with the crossed hammers symbol in either corner and this was to symbolise the fact that the Boleyn ground, or ‘Upton park’ as it was more famously known, was like a fortress. It was then changed to the current crest in 2016 after a move to the London stadium because the old Olympic stadium looked nothing like a fortress
The Castle on the old crest represented the fact that the Boleyn Castle was near the old Upton Park ground , and the crossed Hammers represented the hammers used by boat builders from the old Ship Building Ironworks
To be clear Liverpool and Everton didn’t ‘split’ from each other, Everton existed first at Anfield, but when the stadium owner massively raised the rents Everton moved to a different stadium, so the owner of Anfield simply made a new club to inhabit the now deserted Anfield: Liverpool
It does have a parallelism with the Milan derby. AC Milan was created first, but, after some arguments between owners, some of them decided to split away, and formed Inter Milan
A couple of errors on your Crystal Palace section. Penge is in the Borough of Bromley not Croydon and is still called Penge. The area now known as Crystal Palace (where the building and the original football ground which staged the FA Cup Final before WW1) is also in Bromley not Croydon. CPFC did not move to Croydon until they moved to the Nest in Selhurst after WW1.
I’ve not read all the comments so I may have missed something similar, however just to build on what you’ve said; Man City - they’ve always been known as the blues although they started being called the citizens during the last 10-15 years. The ship on their shirt refers to the Manchester ship canal. Man Utd - they also have the ship on their shirt as the Manchester ship canal was a big deal for Manchester in history. Everton - the name ‘The Toffees’ comes from the fact that Everton Toffee has been made in the area since the 1700’s. Liverpool - the bird is actually pronounced slightly differently to how you said it, it’s spelled Liver-bird but you’d pronounce it ‘Ly-ver’. The story says that the Liver bird attached to the liver building is tied down. If it flies away, the building will collapse and Liverpool will sink into the river Mersey. Thanks
@@jackmackenzie6721 this is incorrect, while a sectarian divide is really something of distant memory - Everton was commonly noted as the catholic team despite its roots from a Methodist church. Also i've heard anecdotes of seats and turnstiles reserved to just the roman-catholic clergy. The early Everton boards where also more liberal and had people like Dr James Baxter (popular Irish catholic) while the Liverpool boards more Orangeman/Freemason - though there was a mix in both clubs overall. Similarly there where notable Irish catholic players which will have swung things too. There's also stuff to be said about the influence of Celtic & Rangers at the time and songs sung about either club. Again, it's safe to say that nowadays any sort of sectarian divide no longer exists and the earlier ones that did where tentative at best.
I'm not even a Scouser (But a huge Liverpool supporter) and I reacted a bit when I heard him pronounce it the way he did! I was like "No, that's not how you pronounce that" 😅
Great video, one point I picked up on is you stating wolves are the oldest team currently in the premier league being formed in 1877, however earlier in the video you mentioned Aston Villa were formed in 1874. Still an incredibly informative video
What a coincidence, I have been paying more attention to the Premier League recently and I wondering why some of these teams were named what they were. Thanks for the video Hilbert.
7:47 - The word Liver is not pronounced as "Liv-ver" but "Lye-ver". This is due to the Scouse accent and pronunciation. Also the Liver Bird is a mythical creature that dates back to the 13th century and is a hybrid mix of a Cormorant, Eagle and a Phoenix.
@@akimboblues7527 Well you laughed at it, so I figured derision rather than disagreement, and you're wrong, OP is right. Hilbert's pronunciation of Liver Bird was incorrect and the one OP has given here is a closer representation.
The club that became West Ham United was called 'Thames Ironworks FC' not Thomas ironworks. They were formed by the owner and foreman of the Thames Ironwork and Shipbuilding Company in Canning town, East London.
Leeds United are also called the Peacocks, because their ground Elland Road used to be called the Old Peacock Ground, which it's self was named after the associated pub. In fact the defunct Leeds City, who used to play at same ground, were also called the Peacocks.
Pre 1962 when Don Revie become manager the Leeds colours were the Cities colour of Blue and Old Gold, this linked with the pub name gave rise to phrase Proud as a Peacock, a name strongly used after WWII, until Revie changed the strip to all white, to make the players appear to be bigger, physically.
Couple points: Norwich's kit was changed to yellow to match the nickname Another theory for the origin of toon was a reference to the black and white kits looking like the cartoons of the time The borough of Newham was a name chosen by locals as it was a combination of the boroughs of East Ham and West Ham
interesting trivia, city of Norwich is twinned with Serbian city of Novi Sad which is twinned with Italian city Modena. all 3 clubs have nickname Canaries
As an American, my knowledge in football (although called “soccer” here) is essentially slim to none. But this video was extremely helpful and entertaining to watch Hilbert. Thanks!
Its pretty popular among younger people here. Mexican league is most viewed, EPL is second, then UEFA Champions League, and MLS (domestic league of US +3 Canadian team)of leagues consistently broadcast in the US.
I've followed the Premier League since 1998 so I'm quite well versed in it...but honestly (despite the derision that this guy gives it in the video) our "hand egg" NFL football league has its own interesting history that's pretty wild and nothing to snort at. The NFL did a pretty good video about it for the 100th anniversary season.
the ham part of west ham actually refers to it being a Hamlet outside the city of Londons walls, the area was known as the tower hamlets , this included all the small Hamlets east of the Tower of London. You will also find that West Ham fans use the Irons Nick name, The nickname Iron belongs to Scunthorpe United
"Ham" in this context actually derives from the Old English word "hamm", which is a piece of land (often marshland) near to, or bordered by one or more rivers. In this case, it's the part of London bordered by the river Roding to the east, the Lea to the west and the Thames to the south, with the western part of that land being West Ham. (And West Ham isn't in Tower Hamlets, btw, which is the area on the other side of the river Lea.)
Really enjoyed that, especially being someone not from the UK who is a fan of the league but never had much knowledge about the nicknames or the history of the clubs. Great job!
As an Argentine to me. The premier is the best and most fun and competitive league to watch. Outside of South America ofcz... Ps i miss the old Manchester City shield the new one looks like it was made in Microsoft Paint
@@indiekiddrugpatrol3117 yeah i knew that wich is why it made sence that they fixed it in 1997... But they had to bring it back for some reason. Anyways its still not as ugly as the Brentford one lol
Not our nickname but Cardiff are known to “do the ayatollah” which is tapping your head they do this because when the ayatollah died in iran Cardiff were terrible and since the news was filled with Iranians showing grief by tapping their head Cardiff fans started tapping their heads after every loss as a sign of grief for how terrible Cardiff were
I’m interested to hear what a Cardiff fans views on your owner trying to turn you into the “Red Dragons” is and changing your badge and colours for a short time. Did your fans actually care or was it just Sky Sports making a big deal when you didn’t mind?
@@m.domsuni4514 I was quite little at the time and more interested in rugby but I remember being a huge deal some people who’d been to every game since the 80s started boycotting until tan leaves and many still are even after it got changed back
@@amo-kd9cn it’s very interesting to me from an outsiders perspective, in my life there’s never been such a switch in a football clubs image and I think it would have been interesting to see what would have happened if Tan stuck to his guns and didn’t change back. Having a team based in wales with such an East Asian theme would be very interesting from a history perspective in the future.
Newcastle United use 1892 as that is when they took that name and became the only professional club in Newcastle. In reality, they’re Newcastle East End who were founded as Stanley FC in 1881 (changing to East End in 1882). It was actually Newcastle West End (founded 1882) that played at St James’ Park which is located on the western edge of the city centre. East End started out at Stanley Street in Byker in the east end of Newcastle (hence the original name). They played at a few grounds in Byker before moving to the neighbouring area of Heaton. It was East End who had the better team and finances, but West End had the better location. West struggled financially and ended up going under. Several West End directors met with their East End counterparts inviting them as the city’s only professional club to take up residence at St James’ Park. East End accepted. As they moved out of the East End and wanted to appeal to the whole city they decided on a new name. Newcastle United was chosen in a vote held during a public meeting. Also ‘Toon Army’ refers to the supporters not the club. It’s a bit outdated as well as hasn’t really been used since the 90s. The Magpies is the proper nickname but yes The Toon is also used. Supporters can be called ‘Mags’
Local Manc here, firstly great video, lot of interesting facts I didn't know, there's two things I want to touch on though, mainly Manchester Uniteds old name, it's Newton Heath, not Newtown, named after the Newton Heath area in East Manchester (about half a mile from where Manchester City now play amusingly) although Newton did originally derive from Newtown it's pronounced like the surname of Sir Isaac. Also the Citizens name is popular amongst City fans themselves, but doesn't seem to have taken off with other fans, it'll slowly get more popular over time though I think as City push it in their marketing frequently these days, it's plastered all over the stadium which I walk past daily 😅
Add to that, Manchester Central actually becoming a splinter club from City when they moved to Maine Road, and there's actually a non league team still playing called Manchester Central, and arguably the Red Devils coming from Salford City Rugby league club
City are known as The Citizens as a slate on Manchester United, who are actually from the NEIGHBOURING CITY OF SALFORD. This became the city club&fans official nickname during the season of the Thaksin Shinawatra takeover (owners before the Mansour's), as a very public protest against the "Noisy Neighbours" tag they received from the media after Shinawatra's takeover. The official team nickname before this was simply "The Sky Blues", which after their rise to the Premier league became "The City Blues" as the club has always maintained that their kit is "City Blue" as opposed to "Sky Blue". I actually work at National football museum, in Manchester. It's a question we get quite regularly from younger visitors. Other than this, a very well-informed video. Nice work dude 😎
The Seven Sister cliffs are closer to Brighton than Dover, they are more iconic as well. The hill on which half of Brighton is situated on is called ‘Albion Hill’, so the hotel on the seafront is called ‘The Royal Albion’.
Further context to West Ham’s location: Newham was formed in 1960s after the amalgamation of East Ham and West Ham which were hitherto separate boroughs!
Yes, and Thames Ironworks renamed themselves to West Ham because that was where they played their matches (this was before their move to the Boleyn Ground, which was on the border of East Ham and West Ham). As OP mentioned, When the Greater London Metropolitan Area was created, the residents of East Ham and West Ham elected to call the proposed amalgamation of the two "Newham" as in "New Ham".
A not very well-known history behind Tottenham Hotspur’s name is they were also frequently called ‘Shit’ throughout the past 130 years because of they’re playing style, dating back to the Victorian era when they were shit.
14:35 - you say that WHU was created in 1985 instead of 1895 :) And by the way, isn't liver bird pronunced differently to the city itself? Isn't it as "leiver bird"?
@@kieranallen3904 Lists 20 and I counted 20 - check the timelines at the bottom of the screen. Will need to redo without Watford, Burnley and Norwich for next season - adding yo-yo teams Fulham and Bournemouth and rejuvenated Nottingham Forest.
One thing to add about Everton we are mainly called the toffees cause a lady from the toffee shop pre match and half time would walk around the pitch with a basket of toffees and through them into the crowd
Liverpool fans also have another name for their fans, Kopites. The name Kopites originates from the name of the legendary stand at Anfield, The Kop. This stand is where all of the most die hard fans sit and where most chants are started from during the game. When playing at Anfield, Liverpool always choose to kick towards the Anfield road end in the first half and then towards the Kop in the second as the Kop is said to ‘suck the ball into the net’. Enjoyed the vid!
Im westham myself & most football fans think of Liverpool when hearing the kop But I've heard commentators refer to other team home ends as the kop ? I havntvs clue why ..
No.1 Southampton is a city - not a town. No.2 The club was called 'Southampton St. Marys' before adopting the simplified name 'Southampton'. So it's easy to see where their nickname came from.
Correct, St. Mary's was the area of the City, as is the case now, where there team originally played before moving to the now disused County Ground temporarily, where Hampshire Cricket Club also played, before moving down the road to The Dell
Hilbert, another informative video, loved it. I learned some new info about teams I have been for years but you need to tighten down on the errors. The two that jumped out were the West Ham dates and how many teams are in the league. Keep up the good work.
I never expected such a great history channel to dedicate an episode to football. Football and history happen to two of my favorite things, so congrats on creating the perfect video sir.
@@I_Have_The_Most_Japanese_Music they did it to make it more glamorous and raise the profile of the other divisions. It’s more fitting than “division one” because of all the great football that comes out of it.
Thank you for the explanation of the Premier League and the sport of football at the start of this video, for all of the viewers who didn’t know but were nevertheless interested in a video on the origins of the league’s club names.
The nickname 'Man U' first came into existence with insult from West Brom fans who chanted this about the United Legend, Duncan Edwards (one of the Busby Babes and Munich air disaster victim) as they said, "Duncan Edwards is manure, rotting in his grave, man you are manure-rotting in your grave." so United fans hate Man U and I think Man Utd is far, far more used anyway
Online United fans definitely prefer Man Utd to Man U, although I can remember Man U being chanted by United fans in the eighties. I'm dubious about the Albion explanation
Yes, the CRYSTAL PALACE football club founded 1861 . . . .👍 but the “established” 1905, just referring to the club becoming professional. The CRYSTAL PALACE football club were founder members of the Football Association and the only surviving members of the very first ever FA cup competition, where they reached the semi final only to be beaten by the Royal Engineers 👌
Fun fact: Like Chelsea playing in Fulham ....Everton have never actually played in Everton. Stanley Park in walton, Anfield and then Goodison in Walton. Soon to be on the docks in the city centre...Also, side note ...its Lie-ver bird ;)
Nice vid, love learning about random football history. Small nitpick, I think the nickname for Man City is 'Cityzens' rather than 'Citizens' as you spelt it in the video
Weren’t copying, taking the piss more like Palace stole ‘Eagles’ from a team from Portugal, now that is the most Palace thing ever How many eagles live around Selhurst?
@@TomClarkSouthLondon BHA had blue & white stripes before Tesco was even formed. One of the best in the Premier League. Rather that than a jesters outfit copied from Barcelona to try a form an identity. Eagles lol They’re not even red or blue. Your badge is nearly as blue & white as ours. Your club song doesn’t even have a connection to you, the band were Tottenham fans.
Manchester United fans NEVER refer to themselves as “Man U” supporters. It’s a name that was given to them by rivals in an awful and disrespectful chant - referring to the Munich air disaster.
I'm surprised that you didn't mention the Dutch/Flemish link to Norwich City! Canaries were brought to the city by weavers from the Low countries, who revived the weaving industry in Norwich - a trade which had previously made the city extremely wealthy. They were fleeing religious persecution, and when they settled here they became known as 'The Strangers'. To this day we have in the city 'Strangers hall' and other references to them. The Strangers unknowingly gifted Norwich City their entire identity!
Great vid, it was interesting to find out where clubs got there nicknames. Just wanted to add something about United’s nickname’Man U’, that’s actually considered a very disrespectful name to refer to them as following the Munich air disaster, West Brom fans came up with the chant about Duncan edwards rotting in manure. Not a lot of fans know about this these days, including some united fans
palace were formed in 1861 but joined the football league system in 1905 but they were actually formed in 1861 and you can see this by checking then they joined the fa cup as they joined during the 1860s
It is taking a long time for football supporters to understand this, the CRYSTAL PALACE football club founded/formed 1861, and as you pointed out established in 1905 as professionals as the Football League system grew (they were founder members of the Football Association and the FA cup competition.👌
Wolves are not the oldest team in the premiership, Aston Villa are. (Wolves 1877, Villa 1874) This was also the case a year ago when the video was made (and before any one says "What about Crystal Palace in 1861" This has been refuted by historians, they were formed in 1905
Another quick note, the original CRYSTAL PALACE football club 1861 only played in the Penge area of the park, however the park covers many boroughs and they CPFC, are definitely NOT from Croydon.
This is amazing. A lot I already knew but the thinking behind the names was something I lacked knowing so thanks. Also some teams you might have missed maybe, not sure, Sunderland, Ipswich Town, Birmingham City, Middlesbrough, Preston, Portsmouth, Stoke, Notts County, Nottingham Forest, Blackburn, Bolton, Derby County and to some extent maybe Wigan, Millwall, West Brom, Sheffield clubs and maybe Wimbledon (AFC) dont know what happened to that club, etc. I have read a few things about these clubs being very famous and have a history to admire.
0:03 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣"For those of who don't know that is the English Football league that is the football rather than the american hand egg just so you're aware" this had me rolling🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Great video, I've learned a lot! But there's something wrong or not so accurate. As a Manchester United fan it is wrong to call our team "Man U", In my understanding fans of other teams use to call us that after the plane crash in 1958.
Herbert, i f-ing loved watching this video. It was so interesting. I like the story of “Southampton” and why they are called “saint” but although this was an insightful video the comments are just as good or even better. All the comments seem genuine and every fan of their respective teams knows their shit and know their history. Reading the comments was a history lesson in its self.
You and every other British hipster from the 1950s in some sort of nationalism insisted on Football despite being the ones who came up with the term soccer from the term association football.
@@thelinedrive Nobody's complaining about Americans calling footy soccer, because that's done in Ireland, South Africa, Oz and New Zealand. It's just calling Handegg football that's silly.
I would love you too to cover the origins the New York london, waricksure and Irish county crest used in the gaa sports like you did for the premiere leugue in this video
A bit disappointed you didn't mention Spurs other, though be it controversial nickname... Saying this as an Ajax fan, as we have a very similar controversial nickname with a similar history.
I'm also surprised he didn't mention the reason for the Chicken as a crest. Was this because of their fans always running, or was it because the Armitage Shanks Stadium was built on a disused Chicken factory!
@@poeticmic6219 Theres quite a few events put on by Everton regarding the history of the club where it's been put across, the only thing I can think is that the black shirts had a red sash and the pink shirts were sort of salmon-ish, so someone might've mistaken that for red or just mixed up what colour was the sash or something? I can say with some certainty it was salmon, then black, then blue.
Loved the video, one small suggestion, the old photos are really wonderful, but not on screen long enough to enjoy. If the letter manipulation could happen either over the photos or much shorter I think the video would be even better. Thank you
At the end you say "all 17 clubs" when there are 20? A few others have already mentioned stuff like the Liver and Wolves wearing gold, not orange and black
Norwich, Watford and Burnley are relegated, the only reason they're in the video is because the last promotion spot to Premier League is still contested between Huddersfield and Nottingham, if this video was uploaded after the game between Huddersfield and Nottingham, the teams in the video would be Bournemouth, Fulham, either Huddersfield or Nottingham, and every team in the video except Norwich, Watford and Burnley
@@HatterTobias Except he does include Burnley, Norwich and Watford in the video...they're still 'in' the league until they're demoted and the new tables/ fixtures come out. It's an inconsistency to include them in the video but say that there are only 17 teams in the league.
Love it. As soon as someone mentions the "history of clubs", ya know the "reasons why" are going to be longer "than your arm", my arm, his arm, her arm, recurring !! Alaw, btw.
@@markstott6689 Leeds are called the Peacocks because Elland Road used to be called the Old Peacock Ground, which it's self was named after the pub. In fact the defunct Leeds City were also called the Peacocks.
I'd be interested in a one for the championship as well, a lot of teams in the second division have tonnes of great history as well.
Even rovers (aka the gas) have a nice story, who just got promoted from the 4th division
Notts county in the 5th division the first club in football history. And Sunderland a very historic english club
Well he did Burnley, Norwich and Watford to be fair
@@thedictationofallah if he goes as far as the 5th division, that'd be amazing! My York City just clawed their way out of the 6th back up to the 5th.
Yea millwall has a wealth of history
Wolves aren’t called “The Wolves”, it’s just Wolves, and they’re very rarely ever called their full name of Wolverhampton unless you say Wolverhampton Wanderers
Plus villa was formed in 1874 so that is older than 1877 and he said wolvse are older he talking sh*t
Wolves ay we
Or if you happen to be singing, "Hi, Ho, Wolver'ampton!". Good lads. Used to run pubs down there.
@@gggggggggggjable Good job he did'nt mention Sheffield !
@@gggggggggggjable yes but he spelt wolves right lol
Honestly Hilbert, i think you should do more "history in sports" videos. Your style really lends itself to this sort of sub topic
Can you the football clubs in the championship
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Leeds United's nickname used to be the Peacocks but in the 1960's our manager (Don Revie) was very supersticious and he believed birds to be bad luck. He got the club to get rid of the owl on our badge and to change our nickname to the whites. The following year we won our first ever major trophy, the League Cup.
Leeds to nowhere
🥁badum tss
Let's now call it 'The Leeders'.
Soon my beloved Leeds United is going to be known as the red bull yanks. O' horror upon horrors!!!
And the Owl became associated with Wednesday FC from Sheffield.
@@andrewsitu3472 That’s explains why there in league 1
I am very surprised that you of all people did not mention the fact that Chelsea have the Tudor Rose on their badge. It's quite interesting actually. Many southern football clubs have the Lancaster rose on their badge, as the south mostly supported the Lancaster claim. And in the North, many clubs, like Sheffield United, have the Withe Rose of York on their badge. In the capital however, being the seat of the victorious regime, the Tudor Rose is common. They used to have three roses actually, to symbolise each of the three houses.
It's only the Yorkshire clubs who have the White Rose of York on their badge, while the North Western (traditionally Lancastrian) clubs - like Blackburn and formerly Burnley - have the Red Rose of Lancaster. Which is where the Tudor Rose comes from, as it was created in the aftermath of the War of the Roses. Which the Lancastrian Tudors won, which is why the Red Rose is the outer of the Tudor Rose. As at that point in the time the ruler wasn't from London - they were Northern - that was just the capital city.
@@kyledunn8205 A trifle simplistic, as you (Should) know full well, mush.
@@kyledunn8205 bit of trivia for you. there's a small village in Lancashire north of Clitheroe called 'Dunsop Bridge'. nothing much there few houses and a garage. but the telephone box by the stream is unique.the glass on outside of said telephone kiosk has a circular frosted diagram of cities all over United Kingdom. when you stand inside phone box a plaque reads..'THIS IS CALCULATED GEOGRAPHICAL CENTRE OF THE UNITED KINGDOM!'
Man City has a red rose too
@@user-ed7et3pb4ono one like them
History and football. Can’t have a better combination.
Wow! Your still around old-timer?
Football and Beer. Proper German Beer, not the washed down Brit or American spicy water.
@@TwistedAlphonso1 I’m an English Brit and I find your comment very racist, if it wasn’t for me identifying as being more English than British then I would sue your arse off, when it was the English between themselves found out how to ferment fruit.
@@stevefoster5138 wut
@@mirkys130 wut ???
That was very interesting, thank you!
West Ham's ground was actually just over the border in East Ham [They didn't join to become Newham till later], and the nearest underground station was Upton Park [West Ham station was two stops further down the line, East Ham one stop further up]. The ground was usually referred to as Upton Park.
There was a legend, myth or whatever during WW2, that you could detect a German spy by getting him to say "Wolverhampton Wanderers" - it being believed that Germans always pronounced the letter "w" as "v".
just saying it as volverhamtpon vanderers makes it sound german, nice fact.
THAMES Ironworks, as well, not "Thomas" Ironworks. Awful mistake.
When Thames Ironworks renamed themselves West Ham, they played in West Ham at the time. The move to the Boleyn Ground didn't come until after the name change.
West Ham used to be called Thames ironworks not Thomas ironworks, because of the club’s east London heritage rather than because of who our manager was. Another interesting fact about our history comes from the history of our crest. It used to be a picture of a castle with the crossed hammers symbol in either corner and this was to symbolise the fact that the Boleyn ground, or ‘Upton park’ as it was more famously known, was like a fortress. It was then changed to the current crest in 2016 after a move to the London stadium because the old Olympic stadium looked nothing like a fortress
I actually miss the castle image in the crest...
I miss the castle as well, the new crest is bland, and it should say east london
where did they grab Thomas ironworks from?! just takes a second of research, that's the most basic part
The Castle on the old crest represented the fact that the Boleyn Castle was near the old Upton Park ground , and the crossed Hammers represented the hammers used by boat builders from the old Ship Building Ironworks
Another club like Burnley that "adopted" Aston Villa's famous Claret and blue colours 😂
To be clear Liverpool and Everton didn’t ‘split’ from each other, Everton existed first at Anfield, but when the stadium owner massively raised the rents Everton moved to a different stadium, so the owner of Anfield simply made a new club to inhabit the now deserted Anfield: Liverpool
It does have a parallelism with the Milan derby. AC Milan was created first, but, after some arguments between owners, some of them decided to split away, and formed Inter Milan
Not just the rent as a Methodist club Everton we’re not willing to use the sandon pub as a changing room due to it selling alcohol
one can truly say Everton is the real peoples club with a working class history. LFC fans will never accept that but it’s undeniable
@@cameron9385 *Immediately proves him right*
@@chonksstonks1820 The state of Liverpool fans when they actually can't play the 'but muh history' card.
A couple of errors on your Crystal Palace section. Penge is in the Borough of Bromley not Croydon and is still called Penge. The area now known as Crystal Palace (where the building and the original football ground which staged the FA Cup Final before WW1) is also in Bromley not Croydon. CPFC did not move to Croydon until they moved to the Nest in Selhurst after WW1.
I’ve not read all the comments so I may have missed something similar, however just to build on what you’ve said;
Man City - they’ve always been known as the blues although they started being called the citizens during the last 10-15 years.
The ship on their shirt refers to the Manchester ship canal.
Man Utd - they also have the ship on their shirt as the Manchester ship canal was a big deal for Manchester in history.
Everton - the name ‘The Toffees’ comes from the fact that Everton Toffee has been made in the area since the 1700’s.
Liverpool - the bird is actually pronounced slightly differently to how you said it, it’s spelled Liver-bird but you’d pronounce it ‘Ly-ver’.
The story says that the Liver bird attached to the liver building is tied down. If it flies away, the building will collapse and Liverpool will sink into the river Mersey.
Thanks
Rather confusingly, "Liver" as in Liver bird and Liver building is not pronounced the same way as in Liverpool. It's actually lie-ver.
Caught this too, was like wtf. Also of note traditionally, Everton is the Protestant team and Liverpool the Catholic team.
Yeeaaah as I scouser I cringed a bit at that one
@@jackmackenzie6721 this is incorrect, while a sectarian divide is really something of distant memory - Everton was commonly noted as the catholic team despite its roots from a Methodist church. Also i've heard anecdotes of seats and turnstiles reserved to just the roman-catholic clergy. The early Everton boards where also more liberal and had people like Dr James Baxter (popular Irish catholic) while the Liverpool boards more Orangeman/Freemason - though there was a mix in both clubs overall. Similarly there where notable Irish catholic players which will have swung things too. There's also stuff to be said about the influence of Celtic & Rangers at the time and songs sung about either club. Again, it's safe to say that nowadays any sort of sectarian divide no longer exists and the earlier ones that did where tentative at best.
I'm not even a Scouser (But a huge Liverpool supporter) and I reacted a bit when I heard him pronounce it the way he did! I was like "No, that's not how you pronounce that" 😅
I noticed that straight away. A liver bird, pronounced like the organ sounds revolting.
Great video, one point I picked up on is you stating wolves are the oldest team currently in the premier league being formed in 1877, however earlier in the video you mentioned Aston Villa were formed in 1874.
Still an incredibly informative video
What a coincidence, I have been paying more attention to the Premier League recently and I wondering why some of these teams were named what they were. Thanks for the video Hilbert.
7:47 - The word Liver is not pronounced as "Liv-ver" but "Lye-ver". This is due to the Scouse accent and pronunciation. Also the Liver Bird is a mythical creature that dates back to the 13th century and is a hybrid mix of a Cormorant, Eagle and a Phoenix.
Cheers OP, as soon as I heard that I had to pause the video and come find this comment or post one myself.
@@akimboblues7527 Which pronunciation are you deriding, OP's or Hilbert's?
@@akimboblues7527 Well you laughed at it, so I figured derision rather than disagreement, and you're wrong, OP is right.
Hilbert's pronunciation of Liver Bird was incorrect and the one OP has given here is a closer representation.
I always thought the Liver-bird was part Cormorant & part Northern Sh*te-hawk. 😉 (COYS!)
Exactly! This mispronunciation is comical and makes the article less credible
The club that became West Ham United was called 'Thames Ironworks FC' not Thomas ironworks. They were formed by the owner and foreman of the Thames Ironwork and Shipbuilding Company in Canning town, East London.
LOL Where the hell did he get the name 'Thomas Ironworks' :)
@@miked4027 Well he got most of the letters right. 😉
Leeds United are also called the Peacocks, because their ground Elland Road used to be called the Old Peacock Ground, which it's self was named after the associated pub. In fact the defunct Leeds City, who used to play at same ground, were also called the Peacocks.
Also the Peacock brewery was originally on the same site as the ground
And Dirty Leeds!
Pre 1962 when Don Revie become manager the Leeds colours were the Cities colour of Blue and Old Gold, this linked with the pub name gave rise to phrase Proud as a Peacock, a name strongly used after WWII, until Revie changed the strip to all white, to make the players appear to be bigger, physically.
@@johnchristopherhart No call for that, in this "historical context". Manc, at all ?
This was fantastic. I’ve been looking for English-language histories of the top Serie A clubs. Would love it if you could take them on next.
Couple points:
Norwich's kit was changed to yellow to match the nickname
Another theory for the origin of toon was a reference to the black and white kits looking like the cartoons of the time
The borough of Newham was a name chosen by locals as it was a combination of the boroughs of East Ham and West Ham
interesting trivia, city of Norwich is twinned with Serbian city of Novi Sad which is twinned with Italian city Modena. all 3 clubs have nickname Canaries
So why isn’t West Ham called east/West Ham then?
As an American, my knowledge in football (although called “soccer” here) is essentially slim to none. But this video was extremely helpful and entertaining to watch Hilbert. Thanks!
Ditto.
Its pretty popular among younger people here. Mexican league is most viewed, EPL is second, then UEFA Champions League, and MLS (domestic league of US +3 Canadian team)of leagues consistently broadcast in the US.
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You could also watch this one, if you haven't already.
I’m an American who loves football (both types in fact) and seeing the sport combined with history is sick imo
I've followed the Premier League since 1998 so I'm quite well versed in it...but honestly (despite the derision that this guy gives it in the video) our "hand egg" NFL football league has its own interesting history that's pretty wild and nothing to snort at. The NFL did a pretty good video about it for the 100th anniversary season.
the ham part of west ham actually refers to it being a Hamlet outside the city of Londons walls, the area was known as the tower hamlets , this included all the small Hamlets east of the Tower of London. You will also find that West Ham fans use the Irons Nick name, The nickname Iron belongs to Scunthorpe United
"Ham" in this context actually derives from the Old English word "hamm", which is a piece of land (often marshland) near to, or bordered by one or more rivers. In this case, it's the part of London bordered by the river Roding to the east, the Lea to the west and the Thames to the south, with the western part of that land being West Ham. (And West Ham isn't in Tower Hamlets, btw, which is the area on the other side of the river Lea.)
@@hux2000 No mention of "the iron" question young man; Why not ?
Really enjoyed that, especially being someone not from the UK who is a fan of the league but never had much knowledge about the nicknames or the history of the clubs. Great job!
As an Argentine to me. The premier is the best and most fun and competitive league to watch. Outside of South America ofcz... Ps i miss the old Manchester City shield the new one looks like it was made in Microsoft Paint
The new one is actually older than the Eagle one and was used back in the 1970s and 1980s
@@indiekiddrugpatrol3117 yeah i knew that wich is why it made sence that they fixed it in 1997... But they had to bring it back for some reason. Anyways its still not as ugly as the Brentford one lol
I really like to see you do a video for the other clubs in the English Football League. There's plenty of interesting stories to be told here!
The fact that you are a fellow newcastle fan brings joy to my heart
Not our nickname but Cardiff are known to “do the ayatollah” which is tapping your head they do this because when the ayatollah died in iran Cardiff were terrible and since the news was filled with Iranians showing grief by tapping their head Cardiff fans started tapping their heads after every loss as a sign of grief for how terrible Cardiff were
I’m interested to hear what a Cardiff fans views on your owner trying to turn you into the “Red Dragons” is and changing your badge and colours for a short time. Did your fans actually care or was it just Sky Sports making a big deal when you didn’t mind?
@@m.domsuni4514 I was quite little at the time and more interested in rugby but I remember being a huge deal some people who’d been to every game since the 80s started boycotting until tan leaves and many still are even after it got changed back
@@amo-kd9cn it’s very interesting to me from an outsiders perspective, in my life there’s never been such a switch in a football clubs image and I think it would have been interesting to see what would have happened if Tan stuck to his guns and didn’t change back. Having a team based in wales with such an East Asian theme would be very interesting from a history perspective in the future.
Newcastle United use 1892 as that is when they took that name and became the only professional club in Newcastle. In reality, they’re Newcastle East End who were founded as Stanley FC in 1881 (changing to East End in 1882). It was actually Newcastle West End (founded 1882) that played at St James’ Park which is located on the western edge of the city centre. East End started out at Stanley Street in Byker in the east end of Newcastle (hence the original name). They played at a few grounds in Byker before moving to the neighbouring area of Heaton. It was East End who had the better team and finances, but West End had the better location. West struggled financially and ended up going under. Several West End directors met with their East End counterparts inviting them as the city’s only professional club to take up residence at St James’ Park. East End accepted. As they moved out of the East End and wanted to appeal to the whole city they decided on a new name. Newcastle United was chosen in a vote held during a public meeting.
Also ‘Toon Army’ refers to the supporters not the club. It’s a bit outdated as well as hasn’t really been used since the 90s.
The Magpies is the proper nickname but yes The Toon is also used. Supporters can be called ‘Mags’
Local Manc here, firstly great video, lot of interesting facts I didn't know, there's two things I want to touch on though, mainly Manchester Uniteds old name, it's Newton Heath, not Newtown, named after the Newton Heath area in East Manchester (about half a mile from where Manchester City now play amusingly) although Newton did originally derive from Newtown it's pronounced like the surname of Sir Isaac. Also the Citizens name is popular amongst City fans themselves, but doesn't seem to have taken off with other fans, it'll slowly get more popular over time though I think as City push it in their marketing frequently these days, it's plastered all over the stadium which I walk past daily 😅
Sir Isaac Pitman?
@@richiethirlwell9454 no, Sir Isaac Alfred Isaacs the former Australian Governor
Add to that, Manchester Central actually becoming a splinter club from City when they moved to Maine Road, and there's actually a non league team still playing called Manchester Central, and arguably the Red Devils coming from Salford City Rugby league club
Manchester United AFAIK was just a renaming of Newton Heath, not an amalgamation of a number of clubs.
@@Griff01 I think the RL club is just Salford; Salford City are a football club.
Aston Villa were founded in 1874 and Wolves were founded in 1877.
So how does that make Wolves to oldest club currently playing in the premier league?
Best 2 teams in the league wolves & villa wolves ay we 😂
Reminds me of a video by Alfie from HITC Sevens. You guys even have a somewhat similar style. Would love a collab one day between you two!!
City are known as The Citizens as a slate on Manchester United, who are actually from the NEIGHBOURING CITY OF SALFORD.
This became the city club&fans official nickname during the season of the Thaksin Shinawatra takeover (owners before the Mansour's), as a very public protest against the "Noisy Neighbours" tag they received from the media after Shinawatra's takeover.
The official team nickname before this was simply "The Sky Blues", which after their rise to the Premier league became "The City Blues" as the club has always maintained that their kit is "City Blue" as opposed to "Sky Blue".
I actually work at National football museum, in Manchester. It's a question we get quite regularly from younger visitors. Other than this, a very well-informed video. Nice work dude 😎
Yeah, Trafford aint in Salford mate...clues in the name
The Seven Sister cliffs are closer to Brighton than Dover, they are more iconic as well.
The hill on which half of Brighton is situated on is called ‘Albion Hill’, so the hotel on the seafront is called ‘The Royal Albion’.
You should do the whole EFL , theres so much history to be explored
Further context to West Ham’s location: Newham was formed in 1960s after the amalgamation of East Ham and West Ham which were hitherto separate boroughs!
In Essex as well
Yes, and Thames Ironworks renamed themselves to West Ham because that was where they played their matches (this was before their move to the Boleyn Ground, which was on the border of East Ham and West Ham). As OP mentioned, When the Greater London Metropolitan Area was created, the residents of East Ham and West Ham elected to call the proposed amalgamation of the two "Newham" as in "New Ham".
This is brilliant. Be great to hear and learn about other clubs.
Yeah would be great to go around other countries
He should do the championship as well
Did you not notice all the mistakes ?
A not very well-known history behind Tottenham Hotspur’s name is they were also frequently called ‘Shit’ throughout the past 130 years because of they’re playing style, dating back to the Victorian era when they were shit.
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14:35 - you say that WHU was created in 1985 instead of 1895 :) And by the way, isn't liver bird pronunced differently to the city itself? Isn't it as "leiver bird"?
Also: Newton Heath, Preston North End, and THAMES ironworks. The last one is pretty egregious.
And he only did 17/20 teams
@@kieranallen3904 Lists 20 and I counted 20 - check the timelines at the bottom of the screen. Will need to redo without Watford, Burnley and Norwich for next season - adding yo-yo teams Fulham and Bournemouth and rejuvenated Nottingham Forest.
Didn’t he say 17 at the end?
Multiple Mitchell & Webb references in 1 video is the sign of a man with great taste. Hats off to you sir.
0:31 Arsenal
1:11 Aston Villa
2:01 Brentford
2:59 Brighton
3:54 Burnley
4:31 Chelsea
5:10 Crystal Palace
6:06 Everton
6:43 Leeds
7:07 Leicester
7:26 Liverpool
8:15 Man City
9:04 Man United
10:36 Newcastle
11:28 Norwich
11:55 Southampton
12:23 Tottenham
13:35 Watford
14:25 West Ham
15:33 Wolverhampton
One thing to add about Everton we are mainly called the toffees cause a lady from the toffee shop pre match and half time would walk around the pitch with a basket of toffees and through them into the crowd
Please make more football history videos!
Liverpool fans also have another name for their fans, Kopites. The name Kopites originates from the name of the legendary stand at Anfield, The Kop. This stand is where all of the most die hard fans sit and where most chants are started from during the game. When playing at Anfield, Liverpool always choose to kick towards the Anfield road end in the first half and then towards the Kop in the second as the Kop is said to ‘suck the ball into the net’. Enjoyed the vid!
Im westham myself & most football fans think of Liverpool when hearing the kop
But I've heard commentators refer to other team home ends as the kop ?
I havntvs clue why ..
No.1 Southampton is a city - not a town.
No.2 The club was called 'Southampton St. Marys' before adopting the simplified name 'Southampton'.
So it's easy to see where their nickname came from.
Correct, St. Mary's was the area of the City, as is the case now, where there team originally played before moving to the now disused County Ground temporarily, where Hampshire Cricket Club also played, before moving down the road to The Dell
I’ll just refer to Burnley as the Wish version of the Villa from now on. Great video, very informative
Hilbert, another informative video, loved it. I learned some new info about teams I have been for years but you need to tighten down on the errors. The two that jumped out were the West Ham dates and how many teams are in the league.
Keep up the good work.
A team having their mascot change because a taunt to another team caught on that hard is such an English thing.
Haweh tha TOON!! Just found your videos. It's nice to hear a local voice on TH-cam!
I never expected such a great history channel to dedicate an episode to football. Football and history happen to two of my favorite things, so congrats on creating the perfect video sir.
This was really interesting, would love to see you do this for championship clubs
Why would the 2nd division call itself that?
@@I_Have_The_Most_Japanese_Music they did it to make it more glamorous and raise the profile of the other divisions. It’s more fitting than “division one” because of all the great football that comes out of it.
You should do this with every division down to the national league! Lots of historic clubs on the way down to non league. Awesome video!
Leeds are nicknamed the Peacocks or Scum, depending on where you're based.
"Northern Milwall" 😂🤣😂🤣
@@KuzzenFeralFerret 😂😂😂
The Scum are Man U aka manure
Thank you for the explanation of the Premier League and the sport of football at the start of this video, for all of the viewers who didn’t know but were nevertheless interested in a video on the origins of the league’s club names.
I'd love to see your take on eredivisie nicknames
Not just in the UK in the world, Football aka soccer is the world sport. The Beautiful Game ⚽️
The nickname 'Man U' first came into existence with insult from West Brom fans who chanted this about the United Legend, Duncan Edwards (one of the Busby Babes and Munich air disaster
victim) as they said, "Duncan Edwards is manure, rotting in his grave, man you are manure-rotting in your grave." so United fans hate Man U and I think Man Utd is far, far more used anyway
Sounds like an urban myth. Although notable that other 'United's' don't use the 'U' contraction.
@@joshuataylor3550 I think if it was made up then they wouldn't have picked West Brom as the club, it would have been City, Leeds or Liverpool
Online United fans definitely prefer Man Utd to Man U, although I can remember Man U being chanted by United fans in the eighties. I'm dubious about the Albion explanation
That's right. Some fans also made an acronym with Munich, place of the accident:
Manchester
United
Never
Intended
Coming
Home
“Crystal palace’s nickname was glaziers”
Manchester United fans: what did you say?
Great video. Just one correction Crystal Palace was founded in 1861.
Yes, the CRYSTAL PALACE football club founded 1861 . . . .👍 but the “established” 1905, just referring to the club becoming professional.
The CRYSTAL PALACE football club were founder members of the Football Association and the only surviving members of the very first ever FA cup competition, where they reached the semi final only to be beaten by the Royal Engineers 👌
Fun fact: Like Chelsea playing in Fulham ....Everton have never actually played in Everton. Stanley Park in walton, Anfield and then Goodison in Walton. Soon to be on the docks in the city centre...Also, side note ...its Lie-ver bird ;)
West Ham United was original called Thames Ironworks (not Thomas).
You got me at "this is the English football, rather than the American hand-egg!"..👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
Nice vid, love learning about random football history. Small nitpick, I think the nickname for Man City is 'Cityzens' rather than 'Citizens' as you spelt it in the video
Fantastic to see you tackling this topic! COYS!!!!
It has to be the most Brighton thing ever that their entire modern identity comes from trying to copy Crystal Palace
Weren’t copying, taking the piss more like
Palace stole ‘Eagles’ from a team from Portugal, now that is the most Palace thing ever
How many eagles live around Selhurst?
@@HardWater91 I am an 🦅 living in Holmesdale Road. Your shirt looks like a TESCO bag.
@@TomClarkSouthLondon BHA had blue & white stripes before Tesco was even formed. One of the best in the Premier League. Rather that than a jesters outfit copied from Barcelona to try a form an identity.
Eagles lol They’re not even red or blue. Your badge is nearly as blue & white as ours. Your club song doesn’t even have a connection to you, the band were Tottenham fans.
11:42 that clip of the confused canary backing away from the intimidating parrot is fucking hilarious!😄
I found it interesting that you said Arsenal came from the munitions factory without mentioning the munitions factory is called the Arsenal.
And also the fact that their original name was Woolwich Arsenal as well.
He should be fired for that!
Please do all the leagues this video was truly lovely
Halbert is a fan of Norf Fc, a proud customer of Greggs, hater of Souf FC, and greatest fan of Norf FC’s star player Ngubu
This was awesome. You should do EFL Championship clubs as well.
You've got to do the names/nicknames of lower league teams now!
Manchester United fans NEVER refer to themselves as “Man U” supporters. It’s a name that was given to them by rivals in an awful and disrespectful chant - referring to the Munich air disaster.
The amount of inaccuracies in this video is frightening.
Younger fans(yet to hear the tales) of the club and foreign fans do- if u wanna argue they aren’t real fans u can but if u follow a team…
West Ham - the hammers because they get hammered a lot
I'm surprised that you didn't mention the Dutch/Flemish link to Norwich City! Canaries were brought to the city by weavers from the Low countries, who revived the weaving industry in Norwich - a trade which had previously made the city extremely wealthy. They were fleeing religious persecution, and when they settled here they became known as 'The Strangers'. To this day we have in the city 'Strangers hall' and other references to them.
The Strangers unknowingly gifted Norwich City their entire identity!
I've heard Man City often referred to as "the Skyblues" as well as as the "Citizens"
And Coventry City of course are nicknamed 'the Sky Blues'.
Great vid, it was interesting to find out where clubs got there nicknames. Just wanted to add something about United’s nickname’Man U’, that’s actually considered a very disrespectful name to refer to them as following the Munich air disaster, West Brom fans came up with the chant about Duncan edwards rotting in manure. Not a lot of fans know about this these days, including some united fans
palace were formed in 1861 but joined the football league system in 1905 but they were actually formed in 1861 and you can see this by checking then they joined the fa cup as they joined during the 1860s
It is taking a long time for football supporters to understand this, the CRYSTAL PALACE football club founded/formed 1861, and as you pointed out established in 1905 as professionals as the Football League system grew (they were founder members of the Football Association and the FA cup competition.👌
The club Crystal Palace disappeared for 20 years so not the same club
Wolves are not the oldest team in the premiership, Aston Villa are. (Wolves 1877, Villa 1874) This was also the case a year ago when the video was made (and before any one says "What about Crystal Palace in 1861" This has been refuted by historians, they were formed in 1905
5:40 quick note Penge is still a thing i think crystal palace just took a bit of land from each bordering area
Another quick note, the original CRYSTAL PALACE football club 1861 only played in the Penge area of the park, however the park covers many boroughs and they CPFC, are definitely NOT from Croydon.
This is amazing. A lot I already knew but the thinking behind the names was something I lacked knowing so thanks. Also some teams you might have missed maybe, not sure, Sunderland, Ipswich Town, Birmingham City, Middlesbrough, Preston, Portsmouth, Stoke, Notts County, Nottingham Forest, Blackburn, Bolton, Derby County and to some extent maybe Wigan, Millwall, West Brom, Sheffield clubs and maybe Wimbledon (AFC) dont know what happened to that club, etc. I have read a few things about these clubs being very famous and have a history to admire.
0:03 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣"For those of who don't know that is the English Football league that is the football rather than the american hand egg just so you're aware" this had me rolling🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Excellent video hibert
Great video, I've learned a lot! But there's something wrong or not so accurate. As a Manchester United fan it is wrong to call our team "Man U", In my understanding fans of other teams use to call us that after the plane crash in 1958.
Amazing video, tons of info, loads of fun.
Please keep the music a bit lower as it becomes tiring after some mins :)
"American hand-egg" Big fat W
Herbert, i f-ing loved watching this video. It was so interesting. I like the story of “Southampton” and why they are called “saint” but although this was an insightful video the comments are just as good or even better. All the comments seem genuine and every fan of their respective teams knows their shit and know their history. Reading the comments was a history lesson in its self.
We should America Football, “Hand-egg” really. It!s ridiculous it’s called football.
I love all the Mitchell and Webb Look references here too.
You and every other British hipster from the 1950s in some sort of nationalism insisted on Football despite being the ones who came up with the term soccer from the term association football.
@@thelinedrive Nobody's complaining about Americans calling footy soccer, because that's done in Ireland, South Africa, Oz and New Zealand. It's just calling Handegg football that's silly.
I call it 'Throw Oblong Object', but I think I'll adopt Hand-Egg. A lot more concise!
Calling association football soccer is the bane of my sports existence even though I run and support rugby union
@@ArcticTemper Rugby Football and Australian Football has hand eggs too.
I would love you too to cover the origins the New York london, waricksure and Irish county crest used in the gaa sports like you did for the premiere leugue in this video
Very good content. Just one correction. Villa is the oldest current premier league club not Wolves.
Nice video, you should do one about La Liga too
I am sure Brighton’s nickname has something with the place being synonyms with aggressive seagulls, not merely the Crystal Palace spin 😅
I tjought it was the Tarquins.
Albion is an old English word meaning 'union' or 'united'.
The stag is the mascot of Hertfordshire but for some reason Watford opted for a Moose
A bit disappointed you didn't mention Spurs other, though be it controversial nickname... Saying this as an Ajax fan, as we have a very similar controversial nickname with a similar history.
The yids I take it
I'm also surprised he didn't mention the reason for the Chicken as a crest. Was this because of their fans always running, or was it because the Armitage Shanks Stadium was built on a disused Chicken factory!
@@miked4027 chicken on a beachball
@@miked4027 I believe its a Cockerell to help highlight the unintelligent cocks like yourself. 👍
Brightons name came from trolling😂
I've always found Crystal Palace to be the coolest of the EPL clubs in style and history.
Cantona disagrees.
@@juanpablosaenz9037 you can’t even spell his name, it’s cuntina 😌
That is because they are👍
it's interesting how most of these teams date back over a century
You missed a trick mate :( About Everton starting in red kits while Liverpool began in blue kits before they switched!
Everton started in pink and changed to black before settling on blue, to my knowledge they never wore red shirts
@@andrewkgsmith That interesting mate, what makes you believe this? I saw the red blue thing in a youtube vid so who knows how reliable that is?
@@poeticmic6219 Theres quite a few events put on by Everton regarding the history of the club where it's been put across, the only thing I can think is that the black shirts had a red sash and the pink shirts were sort of salmon-ish, so someone might've mistaken that for red or just mixed up what colour was the sash or something? I can say with some certainty it was salmon, then black, then blue.
Loved the video, one small suggestion, the old photos are really wonderful, but not on screen long enough to enjoy. If the letter manipulation could happen either over the photos or much shorter I think the video would be even better. Thank you
At the end you say "all 17 clubs" when there are 20? A few others have already mentioned stuff like the Liver and Wolves wearing gold, not orange and black
Norwich, Watford and Burnley are relegated, the only reason they're in the video is because the last promotion spot to Premier League is still contested between Huddersfield and Nottingham, if this video was uploaded after the game between Huddersfield and Nottingham, the teams in the video would be Bournemouth, Fulham, either Huddersfield or Nottingham, and every team in the video except Norwich, Watford and Burnley
@@HatterTobias Except he does include Burnley, Norwich and Watford in the video...they're still 'in' the league until they're demoted and the new tables/ fixtures come out. It's an inconsistency to include them in the video but say that there are only 17 teams in the league.
@@cass2239 why you so arsed?
@@alanpardew7289 He's just making a valid point.
Love it. As soon as someone mentions the "history of clubs", ya know the "reasons why" are going to be longer "than your arm", my arm, his arm, her arm, recurring !! Alaw, btw.
Leeds are also known as the Peacocks and it's common enough to have been included.
Totally agree.
Due to the fact the original club colours were blue and yellow like a Peacocks tail feathers. All changed by Don Revie to all white.
@@markstott6689 Leeds are called the Peacocks because Elland Road used to be called the Old Peacock Ground, which it's self was named after the pub. In fact the defunct Leeds City were also called the Peacocks.
@@markstott6689 the original club colours were not blue and yellow but rather blue and gold the same as the Leeds Rhinos
Great vid, very informative, work on your sound levels for the next one