At least you're big enough to admit defeat Joe. I'm afraid his stats,and numbers, plus the naked eye, can no longer hide the fact that he is an extremely below par keeper in this division
Meslier is broken and is our weak link. If Leeds Utd don’t buy in a better goal keeper option, we miss out on promotion once again. If Farke blindly protects him, he will fail to deliver his objective and will be replaced as Head Coach with us starting a 3rd season in the Championship.
With respect, of course you were wrong. Meslier's numbers have been abysmal for a long time now. The facts were there for anyone wanting an objective view. Any defence of Meslier has to be from an emotive, superfan point of view.
The problem with the 1st goal Joe is that when you do come you’ve got to get there he hesitated and then was in no man’s land, I don’t understand when his best attribute is one on one why he didn’t stay and then close it down when kamara brought ball down, 2nd is an absolute shocker and he will be aware of that and 3rd although it’s crap defending by kamara being unmarked meslier is 6ft 6 and should be a lot more commanding and not as timid. I’m a goalkeeper and sorry but if ball comes anywhere within 10 yards in air it’s mine and I’m 5ft 11. I love meslier and have supported him for years but he is still making mistakes like he’s a kid. Serious questions need to be asked. Sorry for rant love the content 💙🤍💛
I think you're over analysing Joe. He was under no pressure, because we were 3-1 up. He's been around long enough to know the basics, tap it over, and his job is done. But his decision-making is atrocious. All the stats back it up, as we have been saying over and over and over again. So let's call it for what it is. He's simply not good enough and should be dropped. At this points how can any of his teammates trust him.
Lost for words with all 3 of their goals. Do we stick or twist with the keeper? He's cost us badly today, just like at Sunderland.All I can say is we have an international sat on the bench!!!!
Meslier has cost us around 8 points if that we’re to continue into the 2nd half of the season that’s 16 points we don’t get top 2 simple he has to go and if farke do drop him and we don’t go up then it will cost farke his job
I've backed Meslier the whole season even after the Mistakes, Goalkeepers get more stick than any player on the pitch when things go bad, and everyone points the finger at the Keeper, But after this performance, I think it's finally time to bring in Darlow. Least with FA Cup next, that should happen, and it will give our team a chance to rest and the fringe players time to shine. So hopefully back to winning ways after the Cup game.
Loved the start of your post lol. Once again give 3 goals to a team at the bottom of the league. People blaming Mes for the draw, he was at fault for a lot but our defence was very poor and gave space and time to the worst team in the league. What was Farke thinking with his selections and his subs at 91 minutes. At 2 - 3 James missed the same chance Hull scored for their first and then we would have been fine. We need several new players including a GK.
I am surprised Meslier (Silent S) hasn't been dropped sooner as would any other player who had played badly. Darlow deserves a chance. I can not believe people want the club to buy a keeper, while we have a 2nd and 3rd choice one.
Great video Joe. I've been reticent to put all blame on Meslier so far but that was unforgivable. Darlow against Harrogate will probably not tell us much but putting him in against the owls might give Meslier the kick up the backside he takes note of and works to improve on... 'cos I don't see us getting a replacement before the summer. I've voiced my concern that goalkeeper training might not be up to par in the past and the fact that Mes doesn't seem to be any better than he was three years ago is the main reason. The game does highlight more than the Meslier Problem, though. WTF has Schmidt done (or not) to not be used in these last two games, when he's a round peg for the round holes that needed filling? With Schmidt at LB, Wober could play CB and Amps would give us more solidity in MF than the Rothwell/Tanaka partnership. Schmidt could have gone RB against Blackburn too, surely?
IMO This month we need to bring a replacement for Meslier, a replacement for Bamford, and maybe a defender if Wober leaves. Otherwise, it's gonna be a hard slog to the end of the season.
I see videos from content creators saying, I played keeper, or I talked with a goalie coach. As if you need special insight into the goalkeeper position, to realize Meslier is shite 😂😂😂
Our first half was really poor. But honestly, minute 45-80 is some of the best we have played. We controlled and dominated away from home and came back from behind to a comfortable 3-1. Then he threw it away, and he was way out of position for the 3rd goal - trying to do TOO much. I also have to say while the defence were poor in the first goal, he should not have come running out. If he stays where he is, jockey’s back, the defence has chance to chase him down, the attacker could overthink etc, it offers more chance for something to go wrong.
I would put him at fault for the first goal as well. Not entirely. But he completed miscalculated his distances. Ended up outside the box where he couldnt make himself big as he couldnt use his hands and got nowhere near intercepting the ball. Hes a calamity and has been for years. But I also blame Farke more for picking him and I know he will continue to pick him after the FA Cup game.
We have lost about 8 points on Meslier mistakes... Portsmouth, Sunderland, Preston and now Hull... Well well... Be nice to him, he is just a young boy... Well he is not anymore a young kid... Of the top six, he is the worst keeper. And if I as a truck driver keep making mistakes in the same scale as Illan, ill get the sack... But I have to say that Meslier is playing because he is the best we got... If we got someone better he would be sitting on the bench sulking.
To Sunderland supporters your keeper is a hero. All joking apart your keeper is always going to be a disaster waiting to happen. Change your keeper and you win the league, keep him in play-offs again for your club. Good luck for the season.
Meslier needs to be removed from the firing line, clearly all these errors are taking a toll on his confidence . If Darlow aren’t considered good enough which idiot signed them
Meslier has to be dropped, there's no way back from this. He's not only not good enough, he's not good enough, and he is costing us games. Also, Farke needs to stop with this nonsense of using players in wrong positions. Wober is not a full-back, he's slow, and any winger will have the advantage over him when we lose the ball and the defense is not set. Other thing, we need Ampadu playing in midfield, if Struijk can't go, put Wober there.
First season in the PL, there was covid, and behind closed doors... When the fans were back, Meslier started shitting him self. So yes, I think the shirt is to heavy for him.
None of these channels ever give credit to the opposition. So we went 3 1 up because of Farke not because we got two lucky goals after we equalised😂😂😂.Well done Hull you never gave up. And stop overrating this team and manager.We had derby twice and oxford and stoke and hull and got a lucky peno and an own goal against Preston in injury time middlesboro had stonewall pen denied at 1each when they were the better team so we had lots of luck too
Leeds are plagued by their past. Holding on to players who should have left years ago. We shouldn't be bringing on Bamford to get us a goal in 2024, and we shouldn't be relying on biscuit wrists man child Meslier to keep the ball out either. I firmly believe that any average champo keeper would have us 4-5 points clear right now. Spurs have a keeping problem and look to have solved it already. Why can't we? Why must Leeds be the only club willing to do it the hard way unnecessarily? I've had enough of the 'Leeds always do it the hard way' attitude. Can we have some bloody competence.. for once?!
I don't see any point in any told you so, the bigger issue is how does the club fix this and quickly. Oh and there are other issues with the squad as today showed, club needs to be front and centre and decisive but I don't think it will be. Say what you want about Burnley's signings - at least they are doing something.
Maybe he's no good but in fairness Darlow has always played with the second string in cup games. Not the full first team so how do we realistically know how good he is at this level compared to meslier, who we know is not that good, by the way i am not saying Darlow is prem level by this comment.
The club have no ambition in getting us promoted if they had then they would have spent money where needed Bamford would have been gone 3 seasons ago as for the keeper the same getting bored of saying the same thing every season we are championship team and that's where we staying we had chance in the last 2 games and we blown it😮
If Farke plays him again get rid of Farke. I am so don't want to say this. For the sake of Leeds please make a decision mot. We are all Leeds are not we. Please Leeds do the right thing 😢😢😢😢
1st one was 50/50,he should have stayed put and allowed Wober to at least hassle the guy,perhaps the ball bounces who knows,but he was nowhere near anything
He was already well off his line so he either goes back onto his line for a one on one or tries to come out and he can't launch into a tackle and risk getting sent off. He was let down by the defenders.
@@andrewshenton6541 but is that his fault or was he told to keep a high line? It's strange with Farke. We usually have two holding players sitting deep but sometimes we push everyone forward and get caught on the counter.
Joe, Meslier's problem is simple, he lacks concentration. I believe he may benefit from treatment for ADHD, such as Ritalin if it's not banned, because his mistake's are absurdly basic!
Fancy moaning and groaning when you’re sitting on the top of the pile 😂 Hull fan , you want to see it from my point of view, looking at the table from our view it’s like looking at a mountain to climb 😂
He’s been stealing a living he’s terrible I don’t think he’d be good at being a tennis ball boy at Wimbledon tbh he’s so bad just at basics of being a GK 😅😂
Dude you finally woke, why has it taken you so long, what have you been watching., we cannot risk not going up this season on the back of persisting with a poor goalkeeper.
@@waynemace5487 so by your logic only ex pros can voice their opinions on football then? Those pesky journalists would all be down the job centre in your little world. Great comment
At least you're big enough to admit defeat Joe. I'm afraid his stats,and numbers, plus the naked eye, can no longer hide the fact that he is an extremely below par keeper in this division
Meslier is broken and is our weak link. If Leeds Utd don’t buy in a better goal keeper option, we miss out on promotion once again. If Farke blindly protects him, he will fail to deliver his objective and will be replaced as Head Coach with us starting a 3rd season in the Championship.
He's been poor for 2-3 years. Club at fault big time.
The last premiership season broke him. He's never recovered.
With respect, of course you were wrong. Meslier's numbers have been abysmal for a long time now. The facts were there for anyone wanting an objective view. Any defence of Meslier has to be from an emotive, superfan point of view.
The problem with Meslier is he is just a good stopper. He is poor reading the game, poor in the air and poor deliverys. Time for change.
He's not even a good stopper.
He rarely stops a shot ..when he does it's seen as a wonder save because they're so rare.
He doesn’t stop many shots these days. His confidence has gone and he needs some time out of the firing line
His save conversation is absolutely dreadful. He's not a good shot stopper.
Yeh...been saying for months he needs competition. I was wrong too....he needs dropping completely. Big Sam was right
The problem with the 1st goal Joe is that when you do come you’ve got to get there he hesitated and then was in no man’s land, I don’t understand when his best attribute is one on one why he didn’t stay and then close it down when kamara brought ball down, 2nd is an absolute shocker and he will be aware of that and 3rd although it’s crap defending by kamara being unmarked meslier is 6ft 6 and should be a lot more commanding and not as timid. I’m a goalkeeper and sorry but if ball comes anywhere within 10 yards in air it’s mine and I’m 5ft 11. I love meslier and have supported him for years but he is still making mistakes like he’s a kid. Serious questions need to be asked. Sorry for rant love the content 💙🤍💛
Enough’s enough’s we need a change he’s a liability costing us to many points
That opening was hilarious, well done Joe lad! 😂
I think you're over analysing Joe. He was under no pressure, because we were 3-1 up. He's been around long enough to know the basics, tap it over, and his job is done. But his decision-making is atrocious. All the stats back it up, as we have been saying over and over and over again. So let's call it for what it is. He's simply not good enough and should be dropped. At this points how can any of his teammates trust him.
The ball was going over anyway, which makes it any even bigger error
😂😂😂 you always make me laugh Joe B! “ONE OF US NOW”
Lost for words with all 3 of their goals. Do we stick or twist with the keeper? He's cost us badly today, just like at Sunderland.All I can say is we have an international sat on the bench!!!!
Meslier has cost us around 8 points if that we’re to continue into the 2nd half of the season that’s 16 points we don’t get top 2 simple he has to go and if farke do drop him and we don’t go up then it will cost farke his job
I've backed Meslier the whole season even after the Mistakes, Goalkeepers get more stick than any player on the pitch when things go bad, and everyone points the finger at the Keeper,
But after this performance, I think it's finally time to bring in Darlow. Least with FA Cup next, that should happen, and it will give our team a chance to rest and the fringe players time to shine.
So hopefully back to winning ways after the Cup game.
Great breakdown. Thanks for sharing
The bottom line is he is not good enough
Loved the start of your post lol. Once again give 3 goals to a team at the bottom of the league. People blaming Mes for the draw, he was at fault for a lot but our defence was very poor and gave space and time to the worst team in the league. What was Farke thinking with his selections and his subs at 91 minutes. At 2 - 3 James missed the same chance Hull scored for their first and then we would have been fine. We need several new players including a GK.
I am surprised Meslier (Silent S) hasn't been dropped sooner as would any other player who had played badly. Darlow deserves a chance. I can not believe people want the club to buy a keeper, while we have a 2nd and 3rd choice one.
Joe don't beat yourself up at the end of the day we all want Leeds 2b promoted so we all know what's needed this January
The last goal was great imagine if it was a Leeds goal?
Next lineup will include Ampadu as keeper which keeps with the square pegs in round holes mantra.
The second goal was an abysmal mistake but he is also responsible for the other 2. If we had signed a decent keeper we would be out of sight.
Great video Joe.
I've been reticent to put all blame on Meslier so far but that was unforgivable. Darlow against Harrogate will probably not tell us much but putting him in against the owls might give Meslier the kick up the backside he takes note of and works to improve on... 'cos I don't see us getting a replacement before the summer. I've voiced my concern that goalkeeper training might not be up to par in the past and the fact that Mes doesn't seem to be any better than he was three years ago is the main reason.
The game does highlight more than the Meslier Problem, though. WTF has Schmidt done (or not) to not be used in these last two games, when he's a round peg for the round holes that needed filling? With Schmidt at LB, Wober could play CB and Amps would give us more solidity in MF than the Rothwell/Tanaka partnership. Schmidt could have gone RB against Blackburn too, surely?
IMO This month we need to bring a replacement for Meslier, a replacement for Bamford, and maybe a defender if Wober leaves. Otherwise, it's gonna be a hard slog to the end of the season.
Gary "Meslier" Sprake this guy could have cost us promotion when we tot up at the end of the season. Sunderland howler will never be forgotten.
I see videos from content creators saying, I played keeper, or I talked with a goalie coach. As if you need special insight into the goalkeeper position, to realize Meslier is shite 😂😂😂
Our first half was really poor. But honestly, minute 45-80 is some of the best we have played. We controlled and dominated away from home and came back from behind to a comfortable 3-1. Then he threw it away, and he was way out of position for the 3rd goal - trying to do TOO much.
I also have to say while the defence were poor in the first goal, he should not have come running out. If he stays where he is, jockey’s back, the defence has chance to chase him down, the attacker could overthink etc, it offers more chance for something to go wrong.
The defence was poor today.
What defence?
Sorry I missed this stream Joe. Just catching up. I just hope Farke can now see what we are all seeing regarding Meslier. I'd rather have you in goal.
Get Keylor Navas (he’s a free agent) on loan until the end of the season.
I would put him at fault for the first goal as well. Not entirely. But he completed miscalculated his distances. Ended up outside the box where he couldnt make himself big as he couldnt use his hands and got nowhere near intercepting the ball. Hes a calamity and has been for years. But I also blame Farke more for picking him and I know he will continue to pick him after the FA Cup game.
We have lost about 8 points on Meslier mistakes... Portsmouth, Sunderland, Preston and now Hull... Well well... Be nice to him, he is just a young boy... Well he is not anymore a young kid... Of the top six, he is the worst keeper.
And if I as a truck driver keep making mistakes in the same scale as Illan, ill get the sack... But I have to say that Meslier is playing because he is the best we got... If we got someone better he would be sitting on the bench sulking.
We need to think about the team not one player it's a team game and if he mess up again fan will not forgive
Nobody is mentioning the sitter James missed to put us 4 - 2 up
Because that honestly shouldn’t have been needed and we can’t blame DJ for this result x
Just shows how far away this team is from survival in the premier league
Bloody hell Joe you I genuinely thought you were going to cry at the start. We all get it wrong when it comes to backing players
To Sunderland supporters your keeper is a hero.
All joking apart your keeper is always going to be a disaster waiting to happen.
Change your keeper and you win the league, keep him in play-offs again for your club.
Good luck for the season.
Meslier wanted to keep the ball in play! Even premier league keepers make mistakes.
Its a blunder and he will tip it over the next time it happens.
I am very sad to finally welcome you to the club Joe.
Meslier is broken. He's also breaking the defence, although that's mostly Farke's and our recruitment at fault.
Wonder how much bets been won on them games ?
Meslier needs to be removed from the firing line, clearly all these errors are taking a toll on his confidence . If Darlow aren’t considered good enough which idiot signed them
Look back at Everton game in Premier league he was to blame then and and big sam dropped him
Meslier has to be dropped, there's no way back from this. He's not only not good enough, he's not good enough, and he is costing us games.
Also, Farke needs to stop with this nonsense of using players in wrong positions. Wober is not a full-back, he's slow, and any winger will have the advantage over him when we lose the ball and the defense is not set.
Other thing, we need Ampadu playing in midfield, if Struijk can't go, put Wober there.
u put up a good fight
Should have had Johansson from Rotherham
Was poor Joe bad goalkeeping but the defenders don’t attack the ball at corners 😩
I'd only blame him for the 2nd. That was a weird mistake. The 1st and 3rd was schoolboy defending that left him exposed.
First season in the PL, there was covid, and behind closed doors... When the fans were back, Meslier started shitting him self. So yes, I think the shirt is to heavy for him.
None of these channels ever give credit to the opposition. So we went 3 1 up because of Farke not because we got two lucky goals after we equalised😂😂😂.Well done Hull you never gave up. And stop overrating this team and manager.We had derby twice and oxford and stoke and hull and got a lucky peno and an own goal against Preston in injury time middlesboro had stonewall pen denied at 1each when they were the better team so we had lots of luck too
The clown Prince of goalkeepers.
Joe can't you play, always look on the bright side of life!
I've lost count how many points he has cost us
Meslier has to go in Jan!
Leeds are plagued by their past. Holding on to players who should have left years ago. We shouldn't be bringing on Bamford to get us a goal in 2024, and we shouldn't be relying on biscuit wrists man child Meslier to keep the ball out either. I firmly believe that any average champo keeper would have us 4-5 points clear right now. Spurs have a keeping problem and look to have solved it already. Why can't we? Why must Leeds be the only club willing to do it the hard way unnecessarily?
I've had enough of the 'Leeds always do it the hard way' attitude. Can we have some bloody competence.. for once?!
Darlow might be better with his hands rather than feet of mes. Struggling to understand what a keepers job is.
Meslier again joe..
But we was 3 1 up we didn't need to get 4 goals
Well we just got our second 2 point deduction
Who needs the FA? 😂
He has lost us too many games!
Could be worse.. We could sign Kiko again 😅
In the TOTS over Mads Hermansen btw😂😂😂
he's a club legend they say. how many games? hah. yeah okay
3 games with mistakes and and all ended in draws ask that question
Fed up
I don't see any point in any told you so, the bigger issue is how does the club fix this and quickly. Oh and there are other issues with the squad as today showed, club needs to be front and centre and decisive but I don't think it will be. Say what you want about Burnley's signings - at least they are doing something.
The club fixes it, and quickly, by giving the shirt to Darlow. The permanent replacement may take a while.
Maybe he's no good but in fairness Darlow has always played with the second string in cup games. Not the full first team so how do we realistically know how good he is at this level compared to meslier, who we know is not that good, by the way i am not saying Darlow is prem level by this comment.
The club have no ambition in getting us promoted if they had then they would have spent money where needed Bamford would have been gone 3 seasons ago as for the keeper the same getting bored of saying the same thing every season we are championship team and that's where we staying we had chance in the last 2 games and we blown it😮
It will be Darlow or cairns farke will play a piss poor team as usual just like Bielsa and marshe 😡
The first goal was on Wober ambling back and the donkey in the goal. It was his fault.
I'm only blaming Meslier for the 2nd. Granted it was an awful mistake but the defending was terrible on 1 and 3.
When will the lesson be learned Meslier is a liability he has to go!
Team don't trust keeper
The stats actually make the Hull keeper worse! Let’s sell Ilan to Hull and buy a proven keeper to take us to the next level.
The next level, what would that be then, my friend. Leicester, Ipswich, Southampton at the bottom of Premier. How much better are we than them.
If Farke plays him again get rid of Farke. I am so don't want to say this. For the sake of Leeds please make a decision mot. We are all Leeds are not we. Please Leeds do the right thing 😢😢😢😢
Unfortunately I think he did it on purpose. He has put a bet on it. There is no other explanation. Get rid of him. Otherwise we are not going up. 😥😥😥
Anyone with an ounce of football intelligence knows Mes isn’t up to the job.
Backing him for controversial content is truly pathetic.
1st one was 50/50,he should have stayed put and allowed Wober to at least hassle the guy,perhaps the ball bounces who knows,but he was nowhere near anything
He was already well off his line so he either goes back onto his line for a one on one or tries to come out and he can't launch into a tackle and risk getting sent off. He was let down by the defenders.
I agree somewhat but a lot could happen before as he gets closer to goal, as it was the goal was huge , wide open and he was nowhere near
@@andrewshenton6541 but is that his fault or was he told to keep a high line? It's strange with Farke. We usually have two holding players sitting deep but sometimes we push everyone forward and get caught on the counter.
Agreed
Joe farke is to blame he should dropped him long time ago pal
Madness that u only think meslier cost us in only one other game. Sorry buy strongly disagree. That's a madness take
Joe, Meslier's problem is simple, he lacks concentration. I believe he may benefit from treatment for ADHD, such as Ritalin if it's not banned, because his mistake's are absurdly basic!
Fancy moaning and groaning when you’re sitting on the top of the pile 😂 Hull fan , you want to see it from my point of view, looking at the table from our view it’s like looking at a mountain to climb 😂
Jo, what's going on. Should have been dropped a long time ago . Bye, the manager
Talking about relying on other results now is baaaaad
He’s been stealing a living he’s terrible I don’t think he’d be good at being a tennis ball boy at Wimbledon tbh he’s so bad just at basics of being a GK 😅😂
He makes too many mistakes!
Leeds….Leeds ….. falling apart again!!! 🎶 UTT
wibble wibble wibble 🤡
No dogs to be bothering??🐶🐶
Dude you finally woke, why has it taken you so long, what have you been watching., we cannot risk not going up this season on the back of persisting with a poor goalkeeper.
Weak of the mark weak legs weak reading the game half team league 1 players hope not but might miss automatic promotion 🏐🏐🏐
Just remember not one off these so called experts never played pro game ....
@@waynemace5487 so by your logic only ex pros can voice their opinions on football then? Those pesky journalists would all be down the job centre in your little world. Great comment
I’ve said it for 2 seasons now , he’s shite