The Most Interesting Commanders in LOTR | The Command Zone 545 | MTG Commander Lord of the Rings
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Show Notes:
Middle-earth is full of brand new Commanders, and many of them come with a built-in plan. But for others, the brewin’ takes some doin’. So we’re breaking down the most interesting legends in Magic’s new Lord of the Rings set-the ones that might lead to strategies we’ve never seen before. Come see if these cool and crazy characters inspire you to make something new!
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00:00 - Intro
00:04:21 - Aragorn, King of Gondor
00:26:55 - Círdan the Shipwright
00:50:37 - Éomer, King of Rohan
01:08:51 - Gimli, Mournful Avenger
01:26:19 - Goldberry, River-Daughter
01:43:30 - King of the Oathbreakers
01:56:41 - Samwise Gamgee
02:09:04 - Sam, Loyal Attendant / Frodo, Adventurous Hobbit
02:21:59 - Our Favorite Commander from LOTR?
02:23:06 - Most Interesting Commander from LOTR?
02:24:08 - Outro
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Which commanders do you think are the most interesting Commanders in the set? Are you planning on building any of the Commanders we talked about today? What are the hot pieces of tech that we missed?
i built a shelob deck, i love it when there is a commander that gives so many options, cuz u could do spiders and fight or lure spells or put some artefact synergies in or go with some of the hobbit food payofs.
Faramir, Prince of Ithilien. This is a very unique card. I have a Historic Brawl Deck with him as a commander. It's humans go wide with hatebears and blink.
Gollum obsessed stalker
@@MtgPirates We covered Gollum in our most flavorful commanders episode!
Aragorn, the Uniter is so good that it has CEDH potential...
"He drives the elf-boats that take people to Valhalla" I hate that you're not really wrong here Rachel
So glad Rachel was hired for this channel! She brings humor and creative thinking to commander that I really see reflected in some of the unique content that’s been released lately! It’s the same fun creativity balanced with intelligence and insight that I see when she plays and in her deck building.
Very well phrased as I couldn’t agree more!!!!!!! I know it’s been a while since she’s become apart of the team but I feel like comments like these should be frequent!!! She’s awesome and we love letting her know
Agreed. Nothing against Josh and Jimmy, they are also great hosts, but for a long time they have been focused on "what's good, what's optimal?" whereas Rachel often brings in "what's fun, what's weird?"
Flinging Gimli is even better cuz of the movie flavor of "nobody tosses a dwarf!"
Appreciate these additional episodes that highlight uniqueness as opposed to power! Commander is about expression and I love building decks that get talked about after the game too, so this is right up my alley. Thanks for the variety, Command Zone!
Agreed. Especially because of all the formats, commander actually cares the least about inherent power. You have 3 other players and you're likely to get jumped if you're the standout most powerful, anyway. Power is just one element alongside things like consistency, and ingenuity in service of the true goal - FUN.
Found this episode way more *Interesting* than the most powerful commander episode!
"Yes, it's worse than impact tremors. SO? AND???" One of the reasons Rachel's become one of my favorite hosts 😂😂
Cirdan is one of the awoken elves, he has no parents, he is older than the sun. He and his kin were led to the undying lands beyond the sea by one of the Valar, the gods of this world. But when he saw the Sea, he did want to go any further. He is so old, he is a bearded elf, and he likes to build the ships that can take people to the undying lands.
He was one of the three elven Ringbearer, but when Gandalf arrived in Cirdans Harbor, send from the Valar, Cirdan gave his Ring to the Wizard, who came to aid people in the change Middelearth to the better. He knew, in the moment, that Gandalf was a Maiar, a lesser God, you could make more use of the Ring, while traveling, because Cirdan would never leave the Grey Havens, only on the last boat.
Glad Éomer is getting a spotlight. He is a really solid human tribal commander and deserves more attention. One thing I didn’t see mentioned is his synergy with Gilraen, Dúnedain Protector. She can flicker him to give him lifelink, allowing you to gain a ton of life and reclaim the monarch. Really solid include.
I’ve seen the oathbreaker be build as a voltron deck with equipments, cuz the equipment does stay attached and phases out with the creature. So can protect the equipment with phasing out the equipped creature
So, in Goldberry, a crucial untapper is Ioreth of the Healing House that can tap to untap any other creature or tap to untap any two other legendary creatures.
By far my favourite part of the epsiode was Rachel defending Evolutionary Leap :D (starting at around 1:17:40)
I really enjoy my Aragorn, king of Gondor deck, which I built with the theme of "combat tactics". It's got a superfriends bent to it, quite a few monarch spells, combat restrictions like crawlspace/ silent arbiter, and a few goad effects. I love how many decisions my opponents have to make around combat when they have all these different incentives to attack, but have to decide on targets, and more decisions means more opportunities for mistakes! Games with this deck have been more fun for everyone, and it always feels like each combat is a battle won or lost with real consequences and rewards.
Love this episode. Really enjoyable to see you talking about creative commanders rather than just the best and strongest.
I'm attempting a Gollum, Scheming Guide with most of the cards talked about from one of the last few previous episodes. Plus additional other fun and silly cards.
Goldberry is beautiful as heck and it reminds me of my old Vorel of the Hull Clade charge counter deck, definitely makes me wanna rebuild that. It won with Darksteel Reactor and Magistrates Scepter infinite turns 😂
Best blocker for Aragorn’s deck: Hundred-handed One. Vigilant blocker that can block literally 100 creatures
One big thing to note about Goldberry is that you can't move counters onto her if she already has that kind of counter. That makes it a little more difficult to work well with lore or age counters.
I love the random Lux reference! "Stay positive, summoner."
With Goldberry you also get to use Blast Zone to blow up non-land tokens!
Love hangin out with y’all homies while you talk ish about cards! Spot on insight and brilliant theory-crafting thanks team!
So glad to finally see someone talking about Sam as a commander. He so quickly shot to the top of my favorite decks to play
Something I would LOVE to see in these videos, in which I know there's already so much work... but maybe at the end of each segment, a full decklist that you would play with the suggestions you've made.
Rachel is the best host, love Josh and Jimmy to death, but Rachel is why I keep coming back to the podcast.
Bloodthirster from 40K is also sweet in Aragorn, King of Gondor- even if it only untaps itself, that isn't an issue for your creatures with vigilance!
Rachel’s exasperation with Murph over Evolutionary Leap was perfect.
Mentions fling and doesn’t make a toss me joke 😢
Robe of stars is the Voltron ultimate protection card. A creature phasing out takes all attached permanents with it, for two mana you can protect your Voltron from pretty much anything if you have enough mana. It takes something like a krosan grip or so much removal on the stack you run out of mana to phase with to bring down a robe of stars Voltron.
I love murph's beard
Really glad Cirdan is getting more interest!
Its like the best group hug deck that I would want.
Good discussions 😊
Gimli: *destroys the world*
Legolas: "Still only counts as one"
Rachel is right about the pronunciation for Cirdan. He was one of the great elves, the wisest of the Sindar Elves and the elves in his time and also known as the oldest elf from the second age till the 4th age untill he left middle earth, he was also known as Nowë and his name Cirdan means Shipwright in elven.
He had one of the 3 rings made by Celebrimbor, namely Narya, which he later had passed on to Gandalf.
He was known for his skills at making boats and otherwise I dont believe he was that wel known, compared to Galadriel or Elrond of the 3 ring bearing elves.
Port Razer forgets when exiled so you could theoretically attack the same player twice if you have the exile? I guess you would need a haste source because it would be sick.
Counsel of 4 also draws an extra card for the monarch. It's any player not opponent.
Gold berry sounds great with Persist and Undying Creatures together, since she can grab both the +1 and -1 counters and cancel each other out and she can repeat that every turn
That's an f*cking amazing idea, sad part is, there are only 5 blue cards with either of those
@@zubat-man3019 yeah, but think how much value River Kelpie will get you.
1:20:47 this is the wrong purphoros! Love your channel keeps me inspired every episode to make new decks
Haha, Rachel, you’re hilarious!
Cirdan is the third of the Elf Lords in Middle Earth. He cares for the Grey Havens. He was caretaker of the Elven ring Narya, which he gave to Gandalf upon his arrival to Middle Earth. Despite not really appearing in the movies, he plays a very important role… and yes… it is from the Grey Havens that the elves depart Middle Earth to go to Valinor
Goldberry looks amazing, and I'm building a deck for her for sure
"We haven't really gotten a red/green goblin commander..." Wort the Raidmother is crying in a corner because of that. Also: you might want to introduce Gimli to Eldrazi spawns and scions, tasty treats that will make Gimli instantly big and strong.
I think the scary thing with Eomer, is that you can use the Monarch as a deflect from yourself, and incentivizing the rest of the pod to attack someone else. I does not say "you" become the monarch, but "target player"
Oh man, you guys don't understand how cracked Robe of Stars is. It's maybe the best single-creature-protection that exists on a permanent, because it gets around literally EVERY kind of removal. Literally the only thing that gets around it is split second or a silence effect. It's a wincon in my Akiri/Ardenn deck.
About who plays Robe of Stars, I play it with my Kyler deck. Kyler boosts all my humans, and everyone seems annoyed that I can make it avoid board wipes and keep counters to return with more super strong humans.
“Afistocrats”, if you will. 1:09:21
Robe of Stars is an allstar in Voltron decks in white! If you can stick it on a creature you already suited up with mana to activate it's probably GG's because your opponent's will need an impossible amount of interaction to remove it. Like even without ramp, if you have 8 lands with enough white to cast and activate it atleast 2 times, your opponent will need 3 removal spells on the same stack to get through before it phase's out. On top of that because of how phasing works, this also protects everything else attached.
For the record, I'm using Robe of Stars in my Akiri, Line Slinger/Falthis, Shadowcat Familiar Voltron deck.
Surprised I didnt see Adeline in that Eomer recommendation. She's nuts.
Círdan is totally going to be a whole new flavor of chaos deck. I’m excited to build it!
Love how they stretched "play the bulk" into 2 hours
I'm playing Robe of Stars in my Galea deck. Protecting the commander and everything attached to them is very nice for voltron strategies.
Eomer is a BEAST. Going tall easily in a go wide deck is great, plus is removal/burn and introduces Monarch. Cheffkiss
“Wild or free you choose hand because they can’t have 4 scary things in their hand, right? Right?….Right?” Oops
Haven't seen the video yet.
But i built smeagol with a landfall payoff sub theme. But main win con will be either reanimate from the graveyards and/or turning lands into creatures and/or commander damage.
Edit: oh smeagol doesn't appear in this episode.😅
I think the commander can be powerful. Every time a commander has ramp or card draw on it, it's gonna be strong.
Well maybe it's better that you haven't brewed it.😁
i made a gruul aristocrats once, did an angry omnath elemental tribal and put everything i could find that let me sac a creature to either draw cards or put a bigger creature on field. So omnath's landfall was kinda secondary to just playing stupid elementals :D, omnath was just to get that extra value 3 dmg bolt to face when I sac'ed an elemental to go find a bigger elemental.
"Why not fling Grimli"
"Dont tell the elf"
I love that everytime some interaction is really silly rachel is like "that's why it's so good" and i'm like "i know what, you are objectively right" 😂😂😂
To be fair, Sludge Monster came out in the latest Innistrad set. The point of it was to work with Toxrill, the Corrosive.
Honestly, I have a bit of Commander paralysis. There are SO MANY cool legends, and I only have so many copies of each card.
Definitely building Sauron Dark Lord, but a part of me really wants to try and make lowly Frodo Baggins work.
Elrond, Master of Healing is such a good commander! Having a blast building scry deck. So many scry payoffs in set. Things can get very large, very quickly. And you get to filter so effectively. Was surprised there weren't more scry-based commanders!
I’m making Cirdan after this. Wow that looks so fun.
“You can’t give them a turn with expropriate.”
Tell that to my play group please! I can’t tell you how many times the Expropriate player has gotten 3 turns off of it
Just bought my first commander precon !!!!! I went with the Elven Council, added a few upgrades already. My friends are huge D&D guys and have been on a magic resurgence the last month. So I thought nows as good a time as any to start. me and the guys are gonna do sort of intro game these next few days so I can start to grasp everything.
Thanks guy's love y'alls channel been trying to get into magic and this really helps me build a playable deck hope the team has a great day keep up the good work
I looove Cirdan. Made the deck and it's been a blast. We use Cash and Guns guns for the voting ;)
I'm as surprised that you didn't mention Field-Tested Frying Pan for Frodo/Sam as I was that you took it out of the precon. Give it to Frodo, skip his attack trigger, then after he skulks past the blockers eat some food and hit for tons of commander damage. Also works with giving it to Sam along with a sword for max flavor
good to see some love for the red Blood Artists!
I do not know why Rachel and them never refer to the card “prized pig” as a “mana pork” but it kinda upsets me that they haven’t thought of it also.
Finally someone talks about Eomer! So underrated!
I'm sad that none of the LotR Commander videos talked about Shagrat, Loot-Bearer. Granted, there's not a lot of support for Rakdos Equipment out there, but that's exactly why I was hoping to see him show up in one of these videos, just in case you folks managed to catch something I overlooked.
frodo w/ full ring temp + frying pan, Frodo probs wont be blocked at 1 power, after blockers, crack food up to a lethal hit. fryingpan is surprisingly great
A Pramikon Aggro Deck called "The Cha Cha Slide"
...on the subject of Cirdan:
People don't discuss the vote because the card tells them not to..
"...each player SECRETLY votes..."
Reading the card explains the card, and more.
Also, The Council of Four is so awesome in Aragorn because it draws you a third card when you're drawing for the monarch. "...whenever A PLAYER draws their second card..."
Just because the vote itself is secret, that doesn't mean you can't discuss the vote beforehand.
I would love like a format where you help to build complicated decks of the listeners.(like a companion deck)
And i think the most interesting commander of the set is smeagol helpful guide
Every channel need mom and Rachel provided that here. ❤️❤️
When you have Council of Four and Faerie Mastermind on the battlefield and an opponent draws their second card, you draw 4 cards 🫨
I stand corrected, it's 3 cards
Interesting they didn't cover player protection in King of the Oathbreakers segment. By phasing out your board you leave yourself open to attack, would be wise to add some combat deterrents! Ghostly Prison is pretty on flavour.
I currently play Robe of Stars in my Galea, Kindler of Hope deck.
1:21:15 "You've got to toss me!"
You don’t actually want to go Frodo into Sam into the Ring Goes South because then you can’t crack a food to trigger Frodo. Generally I’d actually look for something that’s three mana to play on four to leave one mana for cracking a food and triggering Frodo.
Gimli is awesome! I have a Jaheira with Street Urchin deck built and Gruul aristocrats is so fun!
My girlfriend picked me up a set booster yesterday & I got a goldberry! I’ve been wanting to do something with charge counters for ages and after re-watching this, goldberry is going to become deck.pickachu 😂 love the content!
1:15:30 Wart the Raidmother eould like a word!
Masako the humorless is very good for giving pseudo vigilance for the creatures swinging with Aragorn
Maybe I'm weird but the council of elrond is one of my favorite chapters in the whole thing
Wow, when you have fairy mastermind up like that real big. It looks like Richard from goldfish.
I really loved this video, awesome job guys!
1:15:35 What do you mean no red/green goblin commanders? Grumgully is the best boy, and you shan't forget him 😢
Same for Wort, the Raidmother
Crazy games. So much fun
For Initiative I usually just use the 1 oversized card and use dice (or if I’m at my place little miniatures) to represent the people going through the dungeon. Saves space and time. Like people make it sound so hard but it really isn’t any more complicated than keeping track of like a saga or class. Like it’s just anither card with a counter/die on ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I love Gimli, Mournful Avenger! I wish they were coming out with a set of The Hobbit characters also so I could have an awesome dwarf deck!
aragorn has allowed me to switch over from Jared Carhaltion true heir as my monarch/initiative deck and I can't be happer
I skipped past cirdan, definitely looks fun. I think i will try and build one now
I have yet to see the 3 colour aragorn lose a game yet
Putting telepathy in Cirdan is ruining the deck XD. I like cirdan a lot. He is a perfect EDH commander. He brings laugh, joy, and surprise element. Thats what edh about.
Robe of starts is insane at protecting voltron commanders and their equipment/auras. I assume that is what's up with the price being so high
Coveted Jewel in Aragorn, really juice up the conflict.
For Cirdan, You’re supposed to vote for yourself right? That’s the safe option
1:20:52 I think you meant the other purphoros ☕
Gimli's Indestructibility doesn't use the stack...😳
No red green goblin commander, Murph?? Excuse you, I just built a Pauper EDH deck with Rulik Mons at the helm.
Rachel is great in a large role. Not totally sure about everybody else they've been pushing