Is there anything u can do if ur alone and find yourself head first In one? Is it possible to roll ur body on to ur back? I guess it just depends on the position ur in. Scary stuff man!
@@chrisemerson7743 Hey Chris! I see you posted this comment near a year ago but I figured I’d still reply. If you find yourself headfirst in one of these wells, your odds of surviving alone are slim to none sadly. This is why you ride with a buddy in the back country, know the snow reports, potentially have a whistle on hand, anything. The depth of a tree well depends on the snow base and if they’re deep enough then you will be SOL if you wind up head first without anyone to help you.
Something to add is that tree wells also tend to "suck" you in because the walls will collapse into the well. They're nasty, and certainly my second biggest fear behind avalanches.
I'm here because of the Francis Zuber video and this pretty much answers all my question as to how the guy ended up in that situation. Thank you this is very educational.
I never knew here could be so dangerous! My buddies and I would always find the tree with a huge well underneath. We’d carve out little seats, hide our skis or board and hang out for a few. Smoke a blunt, laugh a few minutes and then hit the slopes again! Most of the tress we were in were much wider at the bottom than these seem!
In the spring, you’ll see huge wells that can go down to bare ground next to the tree, but the walls of packed snow around the tree can be many feet high depending on the base layer that year. One of the things that was so deceiving about this incident was the amount of fresh powder that made it hard to tell where the snowpack ended and the well started. The rescuer was so smart to put his skis as a brace or he could easily have gone in himself. Even if he fell in, the skis might be helpful to lift yourself out, sort of like quicksand.
Seems one could spare themselves a LOT of hassle by NOT trying to navigate through such thick tree stands. Course, this comes from an old ski bum who was used to 190cm skis. I love powder, but I have no use for risking my life for a few thrilling moments.
This seems so fkn dangerous, but more power to y’all!! It must be an awesome feeling.. I want to try snowboarding but I’ll stay out of the trees and on the bunny slope!!
My grandfather stationed in the Arden Forest during World War II took advantage of open tree wells as did the Germans. Similar to Surfers facing dangerous currents, winds and extreme waves. Wind and blowing snow drift also create unique conditions which some avoid while others Intentionally seek out Something more easily witnessed under open grown urban trees during spring melt... Is how a tree trunk's mass warmed by radiating sunlight. Commonly melts snow cover much quicker surrounding base of trunk, compared to over lawn or sidewalk. As this video points out. Branches growing radially out from trunk intercept falling snow before reaching ground. As they do during summer rain. Experts suspect this gives tree more control over rate of ground surface moisture. Lastly spruce & Pine Conifer trees utilize accumulation of shedding needles to prevent any understory plants, weeds or even new trees from growing within the Perimeter of drip line. Meaning no need to apply mulch, especially on top of dropped needles under tree types which already naturally mulch themselves.
I live in Florida and today I learned what a tree well is after watching that rescue vid. That is crazy scary I’ll take my chances with the sharks thanks
If you're going backcountry or off trail groomed runs, I advise you have an Avalung and any sort of radio device possible (including an avalanche radio). Also let others know where you're going.... ski patrol will look for you if you give them a heads up. I know it sounds like a 'pansy' move, but you'll be thankful when you're not dead.
Great video, and yup you're a beast loved the footage, just enough too. Anyway, this is similar to tornadoes, lightning and natural happenings in nature for people if you learn about it but mostly when you experience them first-hand. You always hear people condemning "why would they stand under a tree in a lightning storm etc." because they don't have first hand experience with loads of lightning AND the different types of lighting strikes or occurrences as there are five diff ways lighting kills people. In a very recent natural happening, I had visited some friends out west and we all heard a tornado warning blasting over cel phone, as in a funnel cloud had been spotted in our immediate area. They looked outside and said 'look its hailing' I grabbed everyone and took them the the SW corner of the basement. Tornado followed. They didn't have a clue none zero. I have been through, seen and been in this situation over a dozen times in my lifetime. Seen three funnel clouds in one occurrence alone, It was a humbling experience for all of them, no one got hurt and no damage to the surrounding area. But, that's because it didn't happen with frequency nor had they, til then, experienced it.
@@hunterpercentsnowboarding3840 Yeah I know but it's going to snow saturday/sunday me hopes. I mean I'm sure it's not going to be anything like your vid, but still interested in where that is on the mountain I only moved to Vancouver last spring and have only managed to make it up to Whistler a couple times so still learning the hill
Protecting your airway is the most important. Don’t panic. You can easily become disorientated. When you know which way is up slowly dig yourself out. Be careful not to sink lower or compromise your airway. Keep a rescue whistle near to your face
I agree. To add my 2 cents, it's a good idea to try and put your hands in front of your mouth. This can help keep airways open. In addition, if there is lots of snow when you fall in you might be disoriented, so spitting can help you figure out which way you landed (e.g. upside down, upright).
The reason I'm here is because I came across a comment where the person's loved one was skiing alone and died because he went head first into a tree well. I never heard of tree wells before so I put it in the search bar and here I am. Apparently it does happen and people do lose their lives. Be careful out there.
@@poutinedream5066 i came here from a viral video of a skiier pulling a snowboarder stuck head first in a tree well, out of it. horrifying to know he really would have died if he didn't get help.
I guess I’m wondering why you would even risk it? I suppose I understand that it’s fun and the adrenaline feels good, but is it worth possibly getting stuck and not making it? Watching after the viral rescue video.
It generally looks like a dangerous sport. There are special slopes for skiing and snowboarding. This just seems to be too risky. If you don't die in this tree well, you can break your spine on a tree. Accidents happen and in this sport i see no room for small mistakes.
ski patrol in Colorado for 8 years, you demonstrated what a tree well is perfect good job son.
🙏🙏🙏 thank you. Just doing my part to spread awareness!
Colorado gang
Is there anything u can do if ur alone and find yourself head first In one? Is it possible to roll ur body on to ur back? I guess it just depends on the position ur in. Scary stuff man!
@@chrisemerson7743 Hey Chris! I see you posted this comment near a year ago but I figured I’d still reply. If you find yourself headfirst in one of these wells, your odds of surviving alone are slim to none sadly. This is why you ride with a buddy in the back country, know the snow reports, potentially have a whistle on hand, anything. The depth of a tree well depends on the snow base and if they’re deep enough then you will be SOL if you wind up head first without anyone to help you.
Son? Gtf outa here, guy! Lol! Son?! Hahahaa. F outa here.
Who else is here after watching the Francis Zuber video of him saving a man who was in this situation?
Cringe
Me
👋🏼 I went down the rabbit hole. 😂
@@DrOcKa20 I went down the tree wall 🤣🤣
Something to add is that tree wells also tend to "suck" you in because the walls will collapse into the well. They're nasty, and certainly my second biggest fear behind avalanches.
Seen people end up being head down in tree wells. They are scary because you can end up being extremely stuck very fast.
me too. I think I'll just not fear them, because I'll not ski in the trees thank you very much.
I'm here because of the Francis Zuber video and this pretty much answers all my question as to how the guy ended up in that situation. Thank you this is very educational.
Same here
Same here 😊
same!
Goodness gracious I know it’s not my place to say but when free running snowboarding you should always go with someone and never alone💯
💯
As a child i flew head first into one, my skis caught on the branches and i was judt hanging there upside down, it was completely hollow
You were damned lucky.
On a deep snow day, 1) don't ride or ski this close to trees, and 2) don't ride or ski alone. The best way to avoid a tree well is to avoid the tree.
Exfreakingzactly. I just don't understand it..........
I never knew here could be so dangerous! My buddies and I would always find the tree with a huge well underneath. We’d carve out little seats, hide our skis or board and hang out for a few. Smoke a blunt, laugh a few minutes and then hit the slopes again! Most of the tress we were in were much wider at the bottom than these seem!
you are lucky you didn't die
In the spring, you’ll see huge wells that can go down to bare ground next to the tree, but the walls of packed snow around the tree can be many feet high depending on the base layer that year. One of the things that was so deceiving about this incident was the amount of fresh powder that made it hard to tell where the snowpack ended and the well started. The rescuer was so smart to put his skis as a brace or he could easily have gone in himself. Even if he fell in, the skis might be helpful to lift yourself out, sort of like quicksand.
This made me so nervous. You must be pretty bad @$$ to be able to navigate through all the trees at such a speed. Be safe out there.
Seems one could spare themselves a LOT of hassle by NOT trying to navigate through such thick tree stands. Course, this comes from an old ski bum who was used to 190cm skis. I love powder, but I have no use for risking my life for a few thrilling moments.
What is life but a few thrilling moments?
This seems so fkn dangerous, but more power to y’all!! It must be an awesome feeling.. I want to try snowboarding but I’ll stay out of the trees and on the bunny slope!!
It is an amazing feeling but really dangerous! Come to Whistler next winter and we can do some private lessons! Starting on the bunny slope of course!
I agree with this comment except for the "more power to ya" part. This is just dangerous and stupid. More powder to ya tho.
@@jazminvelez90 I feel safer in the trees, making my own judgements, than I do on piste with a bunch of unpredictable jerrys
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@@bl00df4rt very good point
My grandfather stationed in the Arden Forest during World War II took advantage of open tree wells as did the Germans.
Similar to Surfers facing dangerous currents, winds and extreme waves. Wind and blowing snow drift also create unique conditions which some avoid while others Intentionally seek out
Something more easily witnessed under open grown urban trees during spring melt...
Is how a tree trunk's mass warmed by radiating sunlight. Commonly melts snow cover much quicker surrounding base of trunk, compared to over lawn or sidewalk.
As this video points out. Branches growing radially out from trunk intercept falling snow before reaching ground. As they do during summer rain. Experts suspect this gives tree more control over rate of ground surface moisture.
Lastly spruce & Pine Conifer trees utilize accumulation of shedding needles to prevent any understory plants, weeds or even new trees from growing within the Perimeter of drip line.
Meaning no need to apply mulch, especially on top of dropped needles under tree types which already naturally mulch themselves.
Awesome video - had a lesson with you today thanks again!
@@sheemie thanks! Great riding with you! 😄
This looks like a lot of fun! Minus the tree wells of course
so much fun! 20yrs of experience tho so ride within your ability, stay safe!
I spotted a well at trails edge, my cousin jabbed his pole into , it went easily all the way and it didn't bottom out.
Scary stuff!
Just watching this after Francis zuber saving video.
thank you for your explanation
I live in Florida and today I learned what a tree well is after watching that rescue vid. That is crazy scary I’ll take my chances with the sharks thanks
pretty sure more people die from snow immersion than shark attacks
>Always ride trees with a buddy and stay safe!
Where is your buddy? 😹
Do as I say not as I do 😂
"best day ever to last day ever"
Real quick
Are tree wells as dangerous if there is a thaw? I know wet snow packs together more easily, but can you fall through that?
Risk of immersion might be less but just riding the heavier snow would be more difficult and likely to send you into a tree well. Stay safe! ✌️
Bro your amazing boarder
If you're going backcountry or off trail groomed runs, I advise you have an Avalung and any sort of radio device possible (including an avalanche radio). Also let others know where you're going.... ski patrol will look for you if you give them a heads up. I know it sounds like a 'pansy' move, but you'll be thankful when you're not dead.
Great video, and yup you're a beast loved the footage, just enough too. Anyway, this is similar to tornadoes, lightning and natural happenings in nature for people if you learn about it but mostly when you experience them first-hand. You always hear people condemning "why would they stand under a tree in a lightning storm etc." because they don't have first hand experience with loads of lightning AND the different types of lighting strikes or occurrences as there are five diff ways lighting kills people. In a very recent natural happening, I had visited some friends out west and we all heard a tornado warning blasting over cel phone, as in a funnel cloud had been spotted in our immediate area. They looked outside and said 'look its hailing' I grabbed everyone and took them the the SW corner of the basement. Tornado followed. They didn't have a clue none zero. I have been through, seen and been in this situation over a dozen times in my lifetime. Seen three funnel clouds in one occurrence alone, It was a humbling experience for all of them, no one got hurt and no damage to the surrounding area. But, that's because it didn't happen with frequency nor had they, til then, experienced it.
Tornadoes are scary to me
turn from your best day ever to your last day ever is too true
Thanks Lew...
I’m a splitboarder in the northeast. This up close view of a real tree well scares me shirtless.
I’m sitting here like don’t shake the tree!😳 that was dramatic enough!!
😅
Tree wells are one reason I don't ski trees much.
sweet style man
Thanks!
Dude that's fire! Your good. Your quads must me burnin
Thanks Peter! 🙏
I had a friend dead in tree well 3yrs ago,those are really serious things
Sorry to hear that. The danger is real
what part of the mountain is this, hitting Whistler on monday and want to taste this
Unfortunately it hasn’t snowed here in a while so won’t be worth it
@@hunterpercentsnowboarding3840 Yeah I know but it's going to snow saturday/sunday me hopes. I mean I'm sure it's not going to be anything like your vid, but still interested in where that is on the mountain I only moved to Vancouver last spring and have only managed to make it up to Whistler a couple times so still learning the hill
@@dz_ca this video was taken on Blackcomb. I’m available for private lessons if you’re interested!
@@hunterpercentsnowboarding3840 haha i dont need a lesson I just need to know where the run is
@@dz_ca follow your nose DZ! 🤙
sick carving
Thanks! 😄
Tight trees! Where is this located? Any tips if one was to land head first on a snowboard?
Protecting your airway is the most important. Don’t panic. You can easily become disorientated. When you know which way is up slowly dig yourself out. Be careful not to sink lower or compromise your airway. Keep a rescue whistle near to your face
I agree. To add my 2 cents, it's a good idea to try and put your hands in front of your mouth. This can help keep airways open. In addition, if there is lots of snow when you fall in you might be disoriented, so spitting can help you figure out which way you landed (e.g. upside down, upright).
If you get disoriented, and can't tell which way is up, spit and see the way it runs. Gravity doesn't fail you.
The reason I'm here is because I came across a comment where the person's loved one was skiing alone and died because he went head first into a tree well. I never heard of tree wells before so I put it in the search bar and here I am. Apparently it does happen and people do lose their lives. Be careful out there.
@@poutinedream5066 i came here from a viral video of a skiier pulling a snowboarder stuck head first in a tree well, out of it. horrifying to know he really would have died if he didn't get help.
I guess I’m wondering why you would even risk it? I suppose I understand that it’s fun and the adrenaline feels good, but is it worth possibly getting stuck and not making it? Watching after the viral rescue video.
Being from the desert I had to look this up 😂
What ski area is this?
Blackcomb
good stuff
🤙
Edit the tree well only vid together for a good
Learning clip.
It generally looks like a dangerous sport. There are special slopes for skiing and snowboarding. This just seems to be too risky. If you don't die in this tree well, you can break your spine on a tree. Accidents happen and in this sport i see no room for small mistakes.
Because powder 🤤
You wouldn’t get it
general relatively predicted such gravity wells, known as " tree wells " to skiers, snowboarders and boardrats.
Where does the wormhole go? 🤔
This is great information.
Need to know info!
Looks cool, but go with someone. Why would you want to risk your life, no matter how good you think you are.
I'm surprised he didn't sink to the bottom with his massive balls of steal weighing him down.
snowboards should have emergency release buttons.
Ride with a buddy and keep a whistle near your face when riding in the trees
you should be snowboarding with a buddy
Do as I say not as I do 😂👍
Crazy
Which gopro bro ?
8
maybe...maybe its better to NOT ski anywhere close to trees. What do you think? avoid the trees?
damn this looks risky lol
Extremely! Be careful, don’t ride alone or just stick to the piste until you’re an expert
God I want to touch that snow so bad... The only snow I ever touched melted right when it hit the ground
Im here to be Educated
smurfs story is inspired from this tragedy...look it up.
I don’t know why. You wouldn’t be found.
Dangerous
Bruh Earth just creates all kinds of ways to kill humans lol… or is it the humans?