I really like that Grievous is even here. It adds a lot of significance to the episode and arc as a whole. The whole arc of course is the creation of lightsabers, all of them being unique in their own way just like the users. Then here comes Grievous, the one infamous for collecting lightsabers to his collection. It just makes sense.
People bash this fight for how Grievous didn’t kill Ahsoka but I feel like at this point in the series her holding her own and BEING FORCED TO RETREAT makes a lot of sense. It was a little goofy when they fought in season 1 but by now she’s had a lot of combat experience, dueled with many different opponents, everyone tends to overlook her skills when she was trained by one of the strongest Jedi in the Republic.
ahsoka was already an experienced fighter. She fought him in a previous occasion and survived many encounters with Ventress, who was maybe at the same level as Grievous... She knew she could not defeat him, but made a stand so the younglings could retreat... I love the way she fights, but grievous was a kind of stupid here.
@@obiologo grevious is a beast and knows it, he was just playing with his prey, perfect example is when he face stomps her, when he could of killed her then charges laughing maniacally, hes just having fun, battles with jedi is what he lives for.
Well if it was 2003 Grievous she would pretty much still be killed instantly but as Star was the clone wars grievous it makes sense but that grievous sucks and the 2003 grievous was way cooler
force users are capable of using the force to strengthen their bodies when needed. she could have gotten lucky to keep herself alive from that blow and second greivous was playing with her.
Or if you watched the show you'd see that each time he appears he has different lightsabers which means he has been killing Jedi off screen. Stop bitching
Obviously somebody is butthurt and has no clue the difference before stating a fact and bitching. As you can see from this show they horribly nerfed down Grievous from the show and comics.
Eric Rosario Yes the comics that are no longer canon, and the show where mace windu took on an entire army by himself, which also isnt canon. Just accept that the canon grievous isnt that epic.
Grevious' entire design is sickly perfect to me. He looks like the infamous cripple lightsaber collecting ill monster he is! Especially when he's walking with his hands on his back it gives that 'I'm sick' vibe in the phisycal meaning.
@@garyeltheimmortal331 I d ok wish he wasn’t as stocky because he would be a lot more threatening if he could move as fast and use lightsabers with his feet like his 2003 counterpart
@@barrettross3772 if you just look up ahsoka vs grievous soundtrack the music should be there. they unfortunately didn't release the official version of it so some of the sound effects int he fight might be there, but the majority of the audio is the soundtrack.
@@jsxerpa bro if we only stayed with 2003 grievous she wouldnt even last 3 seconds.....but yea the season 7 ahsoka would have destroyed grievous in 2 min
+TheWarrior7769 grievous was to OP in that show and wasn't really much of a character more an object. Here he has personality and if you paid attention you'd see each time we see him he has different lightsabers which means he has been killing Jedi.
Ahsoka should have been raised as a Jedi Knight after this battle.. She saved a bunch of younglings and survived an encounter with Grievous... a feat many council members could not have done...
The problem with Grievous in this show that he always has to fight important Jedi that aren’t allowed to die in the story. If he fought some fodder Jedi that seem strong, we could have seen a badass Grievous again.
@@Arkhamman2023 I mean in the beginning of season 5 episode 8 we've seen Grevious attacked kenobi's ship, but we should at least see some of the scenes of his perspective and see how they both calculated and clashed out. And the self destruction part Grevious should be the one figuring it out and they shouldve let him get out with more grace instead of running like an ape.
I am sorry in advance to every one who loves Ashoka or whatever. General grievous in a 1 on 1 battle against grievous without a ship to run away on would end up with an arm on a wall head on the floor and an apprentice braid in greivous's lair where he has the other million. She is no match.
+Nick Dwyer True. She is extremely impressive for her age. AOTC Anakin could take her out though. Still, she was offered a chance to become a Jedi Knight at age 16-17. I think thats a record breaker. Grievous was merely toying with her. He could of killed her during the saber lock as he had two other arms available.
did you notice that ahsoka didn't beat grievous, she just stalled him so the kids would escape. Disney take notes, that protagonist does not mean super powerful.
He has more than 2 blue and 2 green sabers lmao, it just depends on which ones he brings usually Those 4 are just his favorites iirc according to the Episode 3 novelisation, one of them belonging to one of the Jedi Masters who attacked his homeworld.
@@RealGLP they really should do it more tbh, the same colors all over again is getting boring, even if he has a reason. Have him use even yellow or white or something, since those are used by Jedi too.
I mean, Grievous won the duel. Easily at that. Ashoka isn't dead because of plot armour, as Grievous could have killed her in 4 occations. Nevertheless, she still ran away without making Grievous flinch. The episode just before, Grievous beat Obi Wan (who defeated Maul and Savage at the same time like later that week) and took his entire Crusier, making him run away. He's not depicted as a useless weakling, as many state
he is severely nerfed in many other instances cmpared to 2003. idk, but just something about movements in 08 makes him seem clunky where in 2003 he was literally so badass like a true warrior.
@@comicfan8350 i feel like personally he's a bit overpowered in the 2003 and underpowered in 2008. he should be good enough to kill jedi knights and give the lower masters a run for their money. i mean, the reason why mace sent obi wan was he's the master of soresu
Honestly, I love this scene. The first time Ahsoka fights Grievous, she barely survives and is only able to escape due to Grievous's overconfidence. This time, while she doesn't beat him, she's able to hold her own long enough to successfully hold Grievous back while an escape is formulated by the Younglings.
@@IAmVivid919 Yeah, we see him do it to clones, so it would've been over the moment he cought her with that, but his arrogance got the better of him. Fun fact: That "Grab face with claw and do a flip" move is a combo attack for Grievous in Skywalker Saga!
@@sneezebiscuits7239 yea and that fact that he crushed clones skulls who have pretty durable helmets on and Ahsoka just has flesh and bone he probably would have done it without a problem but he wasn’t trying so but it might not have killed her she might have just gone unconscious from it
@@IAmVivid919Jedi can reinforce their bodies using the force so even if he tried he might not have been able to but either way I still agree he was a much better fighter than ahsoka at this point
@@Poisonedwight I think that’s a special force move and Ahsoka wasnt very experienced here Togruta a heads are also very sensitive basically you could slap the back lekku and they will cry out in pain or if you slap them hard enough it could knock them out
How many times Grievous could kill Ahsoka ? : 0:51 - Stabbed her with his two other lightsabers; 1:00 - Stabbed her with his two other lightsabers; 1:06 - Break her skull ; 1:07 - Stabded her with ANY one of his lightsabers; 1:08 - Most people would die if they were thrown like that. Don't want her to die but its impossible to look at that and not thinking about it.
@@Jaerek but Grievous has no reason to toy with her. His job is literally to kill Jedi, not let them escape. He loses most of the duels he gets into. There’s no justification for him being so cocky when he barely beats anyone.
Yeah grievous could've been cooler in this cartoon, but let's face it. Nearly everyone in the 2003 clone wars series was op. I mean c'mon, as powerful as mace windu is, I doubt he could take on an entire droid army by himself while only using the force. If this were true, then they could've sent mace to win every fight. Sure grievous could've been better, but if he was as powerful as he was in the 2003 micro series, then all of his fights would've been predictable. If he fought minor Jedi, they would've died and any Jedi who made an appearance in episode 3, or is important would've escaped or beaten grievous.
+Ewan Jones honestly, i don't think he was that tough in the 2003 show, he got by on already exhausted opponents who either had minimal lightsaber skills or just weren't used to such a quick and prolonged assault. If you put him in a fight with people who know what they're doing, who are ready for a fight things're gonna a lot differently
+Hayden Rowse Shaak Ti took down 10 magna guards and moments later grievous just took her by the neck. Grievous than stole her lightsaber. When Ahsoka was in the same situation, she cut off grievous' hand. A padawan could escape grievous' grip but not a master. Shaak Ti is my favourite character by the way.
+Alina Hamzah Different characters have different mindsets. For some reason Jedi seem to panic when someone gets them. They seem to forget that they're an all-powerful being who can fry this person with their mind as soon as they lose their lightsaber.
"Hahahahaha! So many lightsabers to add to my collections!" ~General Grievous This is why Grievous is my favorite character from Normal Star Wars and Star Wars: The Clone Wars
What i like about this fight is how sinister and menacing Grievous looks. Even putting aside the spider-like thing, he's clearly saying he will slaughter young children and even if he plays too much with Ahsoka, he's clearly the superior fighter here.
grevious is just playing with his food lol, could of killed her 3 times, was obvious when he face stomped her, then charges her laughing maniacally, he's just having fun, also give the guy who wrote this soundtrack a phat raise
Also for those of you complaining about Grievous in this, you do realize he technically won the fight, right? Ashoka retreated, and plus it seems like Grievous is just toying with her the whole time, as there were many parts where he could have easily cut her down.
As Obi Wan pointed out, Grievous can be all talk sometimes. He's a lonely mutilated man surrounded by droids... For him, fighting a living being is as much about the conversation and intimidation as anything else
@@ourempires6457 You know, now that I think about it, that can't be good for his mental health. No wonder he puts so much effort into outfitting his Magnaguards like Kaleesh warriors.
"hahahahaha, so many lightsabers to add to m collection" *Meanwhile at his lair* Some random droid: MORE LIGHTSABERS, oh great where are we gonna put them ?
As of why grievous threw ashoka instead of hacking her... I'd say that it's because he's trying with her, i mean he's enjoying his hunt lol. He even laughs
+Strider449 Well, in another Clone Wars series, Grievous actually killed a Jedi like that. Just by picking him up with his leg and smashing him into the ground. I think that the reason Grievous rarely kills anyone is that when using his four arms, he usually holds two arms either behind him or on his sides. I mean, he had Ahsoka in hold with two lightsabers, it would've been easy to slice her in four using the other two. So, yeah, on writers part: it is a kids show and Ahsoka's one of the main characters. In-story: either he's stupid or simply too cocky.
Sander Kuusk I guess, every Grievous fan has seen the original Clone Wars. Overall you can see many of his "old CW" moves in this series. Here Grievous is just toying with Ahsoka but he always gets defeated... even by Gungans.
I could tell that from Ahsoka's face when she saw Grievous wield 4 lightsabers, it was the same expression Sheldon had when he saw the Kripke Krippler's flamethrower: "That's new." Still, she got better after that first encounter.
I mean rebels started out with more intensity; you don't know what's gonna happen to them but clone wars we always did. Not to mention the rebels are actually likeable
@@tabbywarrior Early sabine was irrelevant until the mando stuff. Early ezra was annoying. Zeb was also irrelevant until the stuff with Kallus and his homeworld
@@indianwarlord6935 I saw zeb as better comic relief than wrecker, who's honestly just a rip off zeb without a backstory, ezra was relatable to a teen like me, Sabine was interesting because ezra was kinda interested in her and she was pretty mysterious, and it was just lighter yet more interesting than anything the Clone wars has ever offered until season 7. I wanted ahsoka to die in the first 3 seasons because she was the extra 3 prototype, which was done way better in rebels
It took me a while to realize WHY this fight is so fun to watch (other than the music) and its because its one of the only fights in star wars history thats so visceral and physical. Most feel at least somewhat fantastical and look more choreographed than anything: like every single movement was planned rather than done in the heat of the moment. Most of the later clone wars duels accomplished this well. The fight feels grounded. Neither of these characters feel like untouchable dancers until the scene needs them to be hurt. It actually feels like they're swinging to kill.
Basically all the OT fights follow that pattern. Once they started speeding up in the prequel era it became too choreographed to see the chess match going on.
Obviously George Lucas wanted to show the Jedi in their prime during the prequels, with a much faster fighting style. A fact that many prequel hating morons fail to understand.
Ahsoka at best could hold Grievous off. But in a prolonged battle he would kill her at this point in her training. But still, she did a good job keeping him at bay long enough for an escape.
This is honestly one of the best fights in the entire clone wars and shows both of these competent warriors at their best. Ahsoka is dodging and and doing the best she can to Keep up with grievous Relentless aggression. The general only uses his spinning hands as a way of approaching and hes almost always on the attack, perfectly fitting his aggressive nature. However you can see at 0:58 Where grievous Is actually dodging and weaving out of Ahsoka's strikes shows his skill quiet well. Both characters use the Skill of duel blading to the best of their ability, using their other weapons to Try and blind side the opponent in Ahsoka's case, or use 2 blades to block 1 lightsaber attack in grievous case. The interesting thing with grievous is he never really exploits his four arms to overwhelm Ahsoka, either as an attempt to win honourably or show his arrogance. This fight is visceral and brutal and its oddly phenomenal. It shows how skilled both of these warriors are and its arguably the closest thing 2008 grievous gets to 2003 grievous.
I think grievous malufuctioned this fight; in legends, idk this is true in canon, grievous can copy the moves sequences of the opponent and in legends it almost learn vapad from windu. So yeah,I think this played in ahsoka's favor too because no matter how many grievous had, none of his adversaries never fought as ahsoka
+S!f the Grεat Grεy Wolf Ahsoka is a togruta. They have higher constitutions than humans but still, she should of at least been removed from the fight after that hit.
I can get his overconfidence costing him some victories like this one if it actually felt deserved. If he'd been offing Jedi throughout the series then I could see this more as him being overconfident and toying with this padawan and then losing an opportunity at a kill, but it doesn't feel like he deserved to do that. This just makes him look incompetent. There were a number of solid victories and Jedi deaths they could have given. Like that one air battle where Anakin gets injured. Instead of some random Command Droid it could have been Grievous. With Master Dai on the Seperatist conquest of Ryloth they could have easily shoehorned Grievous in there conquering the planet and killing Master Dai. Plenty of chances to build up this character as a major threat.
bioniclefan1995 It was big sky battle. Anakin never went face to face with the Command Droid in that Episode if I recall correctly. It could have easily been Grievous and it wouldn't have changed the fact they never met in person.
ShamanMcLamie Except in episode 3, they both talk as if they're meeting for the first time. Wouldn't make sense if they fought here then talked like they were fighting for the first time in the third episode.
Grievous is neither jedi and sith. He was a total warrior before turn to cyborg . He learned to use the lightsabers by count dooku so he can destroy the jedis.He is the greatest jedi killer,because he killed hundreds of them.
It looks like Ahsoka was thinking of staying or sacrificing herself - 1:29 What do you think. Why did she look back at Grivous? It took her time to think of staying or leaving
Lol can we all just give Ashoka some mad respect for being one of the only youngest Jedi to go toe to toe with GG and actually hold him off and stand her ground I love this character so much and I’m glad she lives pass rise of sky walker!! She was trained by the chosen one ☝🏾 and she become one!
its not yet canon that she lives past TROS. Filoni said he thinks that, but JJAbrams clearly thought different. So far, its, more or less up in the air if shes alive there or not.
The idea of Grevious getting Ahsoka's shoto saber, then activating it later and being confused why one of his sabers is shorter than the rest is funny to me.
For all of the people complaining that Grievous doesn't kill Jedi in this version: What do you think he's doing between episodes? Grievous' collection of lightsabers expands every time he's not in an episode. Also, if he wanted to kill Ahsoka right away, he would have. Grievous was toying with her. He saw hope in her eyes and he wanted to let that build, be augmented with confidence before he overpowered her, outmaneuvered her, and then killed her slowly, painfully, and in every way that one fears. He would then watch that hope and confidence drain from her eyes just as she would take her last breath. The thing is, Ahsoka made her escape just before Grievous could do that.
"Don't let your pursuit of trinkets cloud your reality. Remember what I taught you, General. If you are to succeed in combat against the best of the Jedi, you must have fear, surprise, and intimidation on your side. But if any one element is lacking, it would be best for you to retreat. You must break them before you engage them. Only then will you ensure victory and have your trophy."
@111402554853748917795 And when Grievous decides that, it's playtime with the Jedi. Had he gone fully serious for that fight, Ahsoka would have died without a doubt.
I’m so sick of everyone complaining about how nerfed Grievous was. I kinda like how he leads from afar rather than in the front line because we already have so many lightsaber wielding soldiers and generals in the front lines and it is interesting to become accustomed to a character’s tactics. I also love me a flawed character and this version is much more arrogant and opportunistic but still very powerful making his losses believable but his wins satisfying and understandable. Not only that but he had his cool moments in this fight and people only seem to remember the end of it when he is hit with a touch of irony of the ship’s blasters as he brags in anger about how he can’t be defeated. The old version was just you waiting for him to smash his opponents in some “cool” way but in this version I can look forward to his corny dialogue, escapes, and scummy tricks making his episodes a lot more fun and the actions leading up to the predictable ending less predictable. Not only that but he is still very skilled in combat and leadership anyways and he has gotten very very close at times but their is also something called story telling and plot so alas Grievous must be defeated.
but almost nobody except you wants to see grievous just lead from the back lines. thats simply not what the character was created for. you dont see people asking for thrawn to walk around and kill people with lightsabers - because that character was created to plan and lead from behind the lines. the character grievous, however, was created to get up close and fight jedi with their own weapons. so stop trying to excuse shit bc you are fanboying
@@thahoule7924 except people hate this version of him because they are fanboying about a different version of him- this is George Lucas’ vision of the character: a coward who talks big up against characters with omega plot armor. And it isn’t as if he didn’t have his fair share of victories either and when we often see him in the clone wars it’s when he has an advantage and the republic is going on a counter strike. Ultimately you can’t really say that this isn’t what was intended for General Grievous because this is his portrayal in most of his media appearances including a mainline movie. And it isn’t as if he doesn’t target nor fight Jedi successfully. He has a pretty expansive trophy room in his lair- most of the Jedi he doesn’t manage to kill in the show are trying to flee from him as well. Just because a majority of the fandom wanted something different from him doesn’t mean that this version is wrong and that I can’t enjoy this version of him. I wrote my initial comment because I’m fairly alone in my liking of him and wanted to defend this version of the character. You can enjoy the Grievous from legends and the original clone wars cartoon but that wasn’t canon for very long and it wasn’t even Disney who decanonized it. Then everyone in that show was WAY more powerful too- look at Mace Windu up against the super battle droids. So overall it wasn’t just Grievous who was “nerfed” after 2003 but he’s the only one people have a problem with? People aren’t even acknowledging the overall power balancing differences in that show when they get angry about “what happened to Grievous.”
@@AK-Drakoin While I mostly agree with you, I just want to say that just because Grievous being a moustache-twirling coward was Georges' vision for the character, that doesn't automatically make it good or immune to criticism. Many people criticise the flawed decisions George made when creating the Prequels and his questionable vision for Grievous' character is no different.
@@dannyboi5887 That's fair- I've only been a big Star Wars fan for about 5 years now, and the Revenge of the Sith Grievous was kind of the first character I fell in love with from Star Wars. Without my discovery of him I probably wouldn't have gotten into the series. Melodramatic and arrogant villains with deceptively cool designs are where I live (lol) So I don't have a lot of the same beef with the direction George Lucas took Star Wars in the Prequels than a lot of the other more long standing fans. (but there are no sequels in Ba Sing Se) I'm an OG Trilogy fan all the way when it ultimately comes down to it, I could go without either the Prequels or Sequels- so when assessing the Prequels as a whole I have more to say about the directing, pacing, acting, and generally poor plotting of those movies than I do with a singular mischaracterization which ultimately did not change how anyone watches the OGT. So to speak, the change in Grievous is not as questionable as C3PO being built by Anakin, for example. So there in-lies the difference for me... I think with his current characterization he is also a good foil to Darth Vader which was the main and original intention of his character; there isn't anything really different between Vader and the 2003 Grievous personality wise as good foils ought to be. Others and you are free to shit on the Clone Wars (2008) Grievous, but for me he will always be "Muh (Guilty Pleasure) Best Boi" who provided what was necessary for the overarching narrative of Anakin's story at the time.
2003: able to face on 6 Jedi, including Masters from the Jedi Council itself 2008: can’t even kill 1 padawan (i know he was just toying with her and Ahsoka is powerful but c’mon...)
IDK why people are so butthurt about this scene. Greivous CLEARLY had the upperhand. Ahsoka-who has fought actual Sith before still had to flee the battle after like 5 seconds.
I just realized that before the fight with Asoka grievous had two lightsabers activated then once the younglings run, grievous approachs Asoka and had no lightsabers active. This mean grievous deactivated his two then activated all four for WHAT!!
@@OkIPullUp2915She should've been killed by Ventress, Maul or General grievous or at least lost a limb or 2 to these people then maybe it would've been believable. But yes that plot armour is *thick*
For everyone saying TCW breaks continuity and doesn't make sense with the dialogue in the movies here's the explanation: General Grievous' amour & cybernetics we're now updated and I don't think he used the spinning arms to that extent on Obi before. So during ROTS that's why Obi-Wan looks shocked. Anakin and General Grievous have never met in the show so that they could have their meeting in ROTS be their first since their dialogue in the movie hints that it was their first, thus keeping continuity. Obi-Wan's line about, "this time we will take him together" is due to their last duel; Anakin and Obi we're dueling the Count and near the end, the Count was escaping on a leaving ship, so Obi had to stay behind to help force push Anakin onto the ship resulting in Anakin and the Count fighting with just them two in the end (the Count still got away). Another duel months before hand, had Anakin dueling the Count on Naboo and Obi-Wan didn't show up until the end. So Obi's line makes sense. Plus all those duels we're months before the end of the war, Anakin was closer to the dark side now and his hair was longer and Jedi robes were different showing time in the war has gone by. General Grievous always repeats lines like, "your lightsaber will make you fine addition to my collection" AND "trained in the Jedi arts..." line was never said before and now, as stated above, the General was now updated with better cybernetics (compare his S7/ROTS model with his earlier ones in the TCW). Plus he's based off of Sunday morning hero vs. villians cartoons and that's how the villians are with repetitive monologues etc. Ashoka wasn't in ROTS movie due to being on Mandalore and her coldness to Anakin helps make his transition seem even smoother than the movie alone. Ashoka and the events of ROTS actually blend together so that you can see them taking place side by side. Ashoka enters the war meeting with Windu and Yoda (during the I sense a plot to destroy the Jedi...scene) after Anakin leaves and Yoda delivers the line, "grave care we must take" and helps keep continuity that much further. TCW near the end further develops the outer rim sieges when Anakin tells Padmè the sieges kept them apart. The end of TCW S7 shows Anakin briefly on Coursant (begining of S7) explaining how she can pregnant. They also explain and show how Anakin could only briefly hologram contact Padmè here and there further explaining how in ROTS that he missed her and how she was pregnant. TCW S6 & S7 shows Palpatine grow in political power now controlling the banks (helps explain funding for the death star) and the war growing. They show Anakin begin to mistrust the Jedi after expelling his Padawan despite being a war hero and saving Windu (S7) and others. They show how order 66 works. The movies are made to be understood on their own and the shows give deeper meaning and context WHILE KEEPING continuity. George made the movies and helped write and develope the show. They flow, "their like poetry". Don't just hate to hate, TCW has some of Star Wars' best moments.
Honestly, Grievous could be the most powerful being in the galaxy if it wasn’t that he like mocking Jedi and not fully using his four arms. Also imagine if he could be able to use the force and just was a good fighter.
I’ve never understood these fighting styles, if grevious has 4 sabers and he is using 2 of them to keep Ahsoka at bay, can he use the other 2 to chop her up? Why does he just not use them?
Ahsoka: *holds her own against Ventress* Everyone: "This is okay" Ventress: *Beats Grievous* Everyone: "This is okay" Ahsoka: *Holds her own against Grievous* Everyone: "NoOoOo! ShE sHoUlD dIe! GrIeVoUs Is ToO pOwErFuL! NoOoOo!"
Am I the only person who isn't complaining about this scene? I actually enjoyed it because we got to see someone else take on Grievous instead of Obi-Wan. I wish people would lower the expectations so much, I get it, you like the 2003 Clone Wars better cause of the way Grievous was in it, and I like it too equally as much as I like this series. Lighten up, if you don't like it, don't watch it, and don't complain. I can't believe everyone wanted her to die here just so it could be declared a show for adults. There are many ways this show can appeal to an older audience, not just through blood, gore, and death. Besides, I'm happy she lived till her departure at the end because I liked her right away.
+TFA Ultimate Prowl Yes he is, but I'm talking about the fact that he and Obi Wan seem to have more run-ins with each other than he does with other Jedi.
I 100% agree with you, I mean this show had fucking decapatation and torque in it. Like is that not adult enough for you people, also I think it gives grievous more personality knowing the he is over confident and not this OP fighting machine, like he has flaws like everyone else. I just don't understand why people can't accept these things, I mean a lot of us have accepted the ending of TCW yet some people can't accept canon grievous. Ugh annoys me so much
Nick Dwyer Very true, and the series matures as you keep watching, lots of dark events and yes this is apparently canon unlike CW 2003. Just cause there's no brutal death doesn't automatically mean it's for kids. Lots of characters die. You're right, it gives Grievous flaws and characters should have that as they develop otherwise it gets boring if they are perfect and overpowered.
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Ahsoka was with an Ithorian. He could've used his four throats. Quite powerful.
Am I the only who gets the reference here? :P
Ayy, good one. :D
So I've heard...
non canon
+Larry Burne
Umm... Okay?? And??
"another lightsaber to add to my collection"
yea we've only heard that a billion times
borel2016 That comment will make a fine addition to my collection
@@thelightangel7559 this reply to his reply to his reply will make a fine addition to my collection
when you die 5 minutes before every jedi dies and leaves their lightsaber on the ground.....
this replay to his replay to his replay to his replay will make a fine addition to my collection.
@@cssbr3191 This comment thread will make a fine addition to my collection.
"YOU WILL NEVER DEFEAT GREIVOUS- NEVER!!!!!!!" Meanwhile he is captured by Gungans.
lmfao
+Will M (Acclimate) Yeah, that episode seemed so forced. First Grievous rekt by gungans and then Anakin rekt by 4 magna guards... lol.
Lol
stop Anakin was only defeated by them after Dooku had disarmed him, until then he was doing pretty well
Lol yeah
I really like that Grievous is even here. It adds a lot of significance to the episode and arc as a whole. The whole arc of course is the creation of lightsabers, all of them being unique in their own way just like the users. Then here comes Grievous, the one infamous for collecting lightsabers to his collection. It just makes sense.
You blew my mind. I never thought of this connection.
Grevious is also extremely scarier here. Like the monster he was in 2003. Due to music and Ahsoka's age.
@@garyeltheimmortal331 I mean he cowers right after this clip ends just because he's getting shot at lol
@@LordVader1094 lmao
@@LordVader1094 filoni can't have him looking like a badass so yeah, he had his shining moments immediately ruined after
People bash this fight for how Grievous didn’t kill Ahsoka but I feel like at this point in the series her holding her own and BEING FORCED TO RETREAT makes a lot of sense. It was a little goofy when they fought in season 1 but by now she’s had a lot of combat experience, dueled with many different opponents, everyone tends to overlook her skills when she was trained by one of the strongest Jedi in the Republic.
ahsoka was already an experienced fighter. She fought him in a previous occasion and survived many encounters with Ventress, who was maybe at the same level as Grievous... She knew she could not defeat him, but made a stand so the younglings could retreat... I love the way she fights, but grievous was a kind of stupid here.
@@obiologo grevious is a beast and knows it, he was just playing with his prey, perfect example is when he face stomps her, when he could of killed her then charges laughing maniacally, hes just having fun, battles with jedi is what he lives for.
Well if it was 2003 Grievous she would pretty much still be killed instantly but as Star was the clone wars grievous it makes sense but that grievous sucks and the 2003 grievous was way cooler
She was owned by BARIS OFFE
grevious kill jedi master so a padawan even if she strong she still should have lost to him more faster
2003: stamps on a Jedi and breaks his neck.
Now: doesn't even damage
force users are capable of using the force to strengthen their bodies when needed. she could have gotten lucky to keep herself alive from that blow and second greivous was playing with her.
Or if you watched the show you'd see that each time he appears he has different lightsabers which means he has been killing Jedi off screen. Stop bitching
Obviously somebody is butthurt and has no clue the difference before stating a fact and bitching. As you can see from this show they horribly nerfed down Grievous from the show and comics.
Eric Rosario Yes the comics that are no longer canon, and the show where mace windu took on an entire army by himself, which also isnt canon. Just accept that the canon grievous isnt that epic.
He broke a neck in Clone Wars also
I love how the general has 3 blue and 1 green saber it really shows he has a collection and likes to switch around from time to time.
I noticed that! Thought it was cool that he changes his usual arsenal.
Yes 🔵🔵🟢🔵
@@GunnarTobushe changes his load out
I can’t be the only one who loves when Grievous is walking with his hands behind his back. This is especially dope with the music
Its fucking dope man
Grevious' entire design is sickly perfect to me. He looks like the infamous cripple lightsaber collecting ill monster he is! Especially when he's walking with his hands on his back it gives that 'I'm sick' vibe in the phisycal meaning.
Grievous is the definition of swag
Scorpion style
@@garyeltheimmortal331 I d ok wish he wasn’t as stocky because he would be a lot more threatening if he could move as fast and use lightsabers with his feet like his 2003 counterpart
The soundtrack is amazing though
I want the name to this soooo bad
It is indeed.
lightsabers cant cut that THICC plot armour
Dragon Fruit it’s called rouge jedi
@@godzillafan1202 LIE
We all know Grievous was just toying with her, but you cannot deny it was a very entertaining fight and the music just made it better
tknon aedw. Song name?
@@barrettross3772 if you just look up ahsoka vs grievous soundtrack the music should be there. they unfortunately didn't release the official version of it so some of the sound effects int he fight might be there, but the majority of the audio is the soundtrack.
But.. but grievous didn’t completely destroy every jedi in sight, meaning "this bad"
Right but season 7 Ahsoka on the other hand. Pretty sure she would stomp Griveous
@@jsxerpa bro if we only stayed with 2003 grievous she wouldnt even last 3 seconds.....but yea the season 7 ahsoka would have destroyed grievous in 2 min
Anyone else think that it looks cool when grievous spins his lightsabers
+TITAN KRONOS look up 'Starwars the clone wars, 2003' and skip where the ambushed jedi meet grevious, he's like a light show
+TheWarrior7769 grievous was to OP in that show and wasn't really much of a character more an object. Here he has personality and if you paid attention you'd see each time we see him he has different lightsabers which means he has been killing Jedi.
I prefer the Op one, wasn't too easy to defeat
ANTOINE RAFAEL R. MAXIMO 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
i'm a FAN of that move
Guys calm down. Clearly Ashoka has improved and was able to hold her own long enough for the others to escape.
If this was made in 2003 she would have been dead already
If this was 2003 she also would’ve been OP to compensate
@Rohan Dahiya Pluta “The Community Controls everything”
Ahsoka has too much plot armour
@Rohan Dahiya Pluta yeah? They nerfed him so badly that apparently Ahsoka can capture him
People be confused on how Ahsoka isn't even dead by now but let's appreciate the fact that Grievous didn't even get touched at all
Does the Force count? Or are we talking about physically?
@@Elijah5258 eh maybe, but again it is kinda unfair for the cyborg
Ahsoka should have been raised as a Jedi Knight after this battle.. She saved a bunch of younglings and survived an encounter with Grievous... a feat many council members could not have done...
so true ahsoka survieved 2 fight against grievous the most jedi knights and mster died in the first battle
What council member couldn't have done what she did in this arc?
0:55 and here we get a tiny glimpse of what grievous should have been like
So fucking true, it's just sad.
2003 clone wars Grievous still some what lives on in 2008 Grievous
The problem with Grievous in this show that he always has to fight important Jedi that aren’t allowed to die in the story. If he fought some fodder Jedi that seem strong, we could have seen a badass Grievous again.
Not being able to hit a Padawan despite going 4 sabers mode? Yeah...
@@Arkhamman2023 I mean in the beginning of season 5 episode 8 we've seen Grevious attacked kenobi's ship, but we should at least see some of the scenes of his perspective and see how they both calculated and clashed out. And the self destruction part Grevious should be the one figuring it out and they shouldve let him get out with more grace instead of running like an ape.
0:39 This walk is menacing af!
He‘s walking like a trex lmao
Even though it was short, I thought that this was one of Ahsoka's best fights.
She got wrecked and ran away lmao
I am sorry in advance to every one who loves Ashoka or whatever.
General grievous in a 1 on 1 battle against grievous without a ship to run away on would end up with an arm on a wall head on the floor and an apprentice braid in greivous's lair where he has the other million. She is no match.
Lol she is a padawan you're acting like she's a bad Jedi when for her age she's an amazing jedi
Ih
+Nick Dwyer True. She is extremely impressive for her age. AOTC Anakin could take her out though. Still, she was offered a chance to become a Jedi Knight at age 16-17. I think thats a record breaker. Grievous was merely toying with her. He could of killed her during the saber lock as he had two other arms available.
did you notice that ahsoka didn't beat grievous, she just stalled him so the kids would escape. Disney take notes, that protagonist does not mean super powerful.
Grievous could have killed her 3 separate times lmao what are you on about
@@InfiniteGreninja He was toying
@Jackson Wang more like plot armor
@Jackson Wang her skill? What skill? What skill allows you to not have your head crushed when you’re slammed down by an incredibly strong cyborg?
@Jackson Wang Obi wan is a tank. He could survive more than almost any other jedi.
Am I the only one that realized that grievous had three blue lightsabers and one green lightsaber, unlike his usual two blue and two green...
Jono The Turtle nope I saw it too! Kinda wierd!
He has more than 2 blue and 2 green sabers lmao, it just depends on which ones he brings usually
Those 4 are just his favorites iirc according to the Episode 3 novelisation, one of them belonging to one of the Jedi Masters who attacked his homeworld.
Joseph Joestar yeah I know that it’s just interesting that the animators switched it up in this episode
@@RealGLP they really should do it more tbh, the same colors all over again is getting boring, even if he has a reason. Have him use even yellow or white or something, since those are used by Jedi too.
He must have lost a green one to another jedi
I mean, Grievous won the duel. Easily at that. Ashoka isn't dead because of plot armour, as Grievous could have killed her in 4 occations. Nevertheless, she still ran away without making Grievous flinch. The episode just before, Grievous beat Obi Wan (who defeated Maul and Savage at the same time like later that week) and took his entire Crusier, making him run away. He's not depicted as a useless weakling, as many state
1:17 he could have shredded her with his 2 other arms
Just in one actually. He could've done exactly that in a fight with obi wan in Kamino. But y'all are silent.
he is severely nerfed in many other instances cmpared to 2003. idk, but just something about movements in 08 makes him seem clunky where in 2003 he was literally so badass like a true warrior.
@@samthong3305 Fun fact: George Lucas didnt like how Grievous was portrayed in the 2003 Clone Wars.
@@comicfan8350 i feel like personally he's a bit overpowered in the 2003 and underpowered in 2008. he should be good enough to kill jedi knights and give the lower masters a run for their money. i mean, the reason why mace sent obi wan was he's the master of soresu
Everyone wanting Ahsoka to die, yet they would be upset if that did happen
Facts
They’re just salty because grievous isn’t destroying every jedi on sight like in legend (where everyone is OP as well, not just grievous)
@@Zoroark_Master in legend he beat 4 jedi masters at once while hear he couldn’t beat a padawan
@@Firefalcon10_ 4 extremely tired and scared masters, taken by surprise. (Anyway many characters are more op in legend)
nah i wouldnt
Honestly, I love this scene. The first time Ahsoka fights Grievous, she barely survives and is only able to escape due to Grievous's overconfidence. This time, while she doesn't beat him, she's able to hold her own long enough to successfully hold Grievous back while an escape is formulated by the Younglings.
He was toying with her because when he grabbed her with his claw he could have crushed her windpipe or crush her skull
@@IAmVivid919 Yeah, we see him do it to clones, so it would've been over the moment he cought her with that, but his arrogance got the better of him. Fun fact: That "Grab face with claw and do a flip" move is a combo attack for Grievous in Skywalker Saga!
@@sneezebiscuits7239 yea and that fact that he crushed clones skulls who have pretty durable helmets on and Ahsoka just has flesh and bone he probably would have done it without a problem but he wasn’t trying so
but it might not have killed her she might have just gone unconscious from it
@@IAmVivid919Jedi can reinforce their bodies using the force so even if he tried he might not have been able to but either way I still agree he was a much better fighter than ahsoka at this point
@@Poisonedwight I think that’s a special force move and Ahsoka wasnt very experienced here
Togruta a heads are also very sensitive basically you could slap the back lekku and they will cry out in pain or if you slap them hard enough it could knock them out
Whether it's op legends, or moderate cannon, I always love watching Grievous fight with all those lightsabers.
It is a feast to my eyes
Dude grievous looks sooo cool. I love his design. He just looks so sick.
Missed his cape
How many times Grievous could kill Ahsoka ? :
0:51 - Stabbed her with his two other lightsabers;
1:00 - Stabbed her with his two other lightsabers;
1:06 - Break her skull ;
1:07 - Stabded her with ANY one of his lightsabers;
1:08 - Most people would die if they were thrown like that.
Don't want her to die but its impossible to look at that and not thinking about it.
Great Breakdown Bro. #PlotArmor lmao
SCB tbf he was very obviously playing with her.
Grievous wasn’t trying to kill her
Nah, Grievous is a Gentleman He wouldnt do that.
@@Jaerek but Grievous has no reason to toy with her.
His job is literally to kill Jedi, not let them escape.
He loses most of the duels he gets into. There’s no justification for him being so cocky when he barely beats anyone.
0:01 scared the crap out of me, I was expecting a different beginning.....not when this.....thing.....crawls in like a freaking spider.
Yeah grievous could've been cooler in this cartoon, but let's face it. Nearly everyone in the 2003 clone wars series was op. I mean c'mon, as powerful as mace windu is, I doubt he could take on an entire droid army by himself while only using the force. If this were true, then they could've sent mace to win every fight. Sure grievous could've been better, but if he was as powerful as he was in the 2003 micro series, then all of his fights would've been predictable. If he fought minor Jedi, they would've died and any Jedi who made an appearance in episode 3, or is important would've escaped or beaten grievous.
+Ewan Jones honestly, i don't think he was that tough in the 2003 show, he got by on already exhausted opponents who either had minimal lightsaber skills or just weren't used to such a quick and prolonged assault. If you put him in a fight with people who know what they're doing, who are ready for a fight things're gonna a lot differently
+Ewan Jones and remember shaak ti she took 10 magnaguards and in this show she probably couldn't even take on one lol
+Hayden Rowse Shaak Ti took down 10 magna guards and moments later grievous just took her by the neck. Grievous than stole her lightsaber. When Ahsoka was in the same situation, she cut off grievous' hand. A padawan could escape grievous' grip but not a master. Shaak Ti is my favourite character by the way.
I hope at least one Jedi survives order 66
GUNGI CANT DIE!!
+Alina Hamzah Different characters have different mindsets. For some reason Jedi seem to panic when someone gets them. They seem to forget that they're an all-powerful being who can fry this person with their mind as soon as they lose their lightsaber.
"Hahahahaha! So many lightsabers to add to my collections!" ~General Grievous
This is why Grievous is my favorite character from Normal Star Wars and Star Wars: The Clone Wars
Love how Grevious uses one of his old tricks at 1:06
He should have crushed her skull
At least we wouldn’t get a live action Ahsokka
What i like about this fight is how sinister and menacing Grievous looks. Even putting aside the spider-like thing, he's clearly saying he will slaughter young children and even if he plays too much with Ahsoka, he's clearly the superior fighter here.
Me: "MOM!! THERES A SPIDER UNDER MY BED!"
mom: "Don't worry, its not gonna hurt you."
the spider:
grevious is just playing with his food lol, could of killed her 3 times, was obvious when he face stomped her, then charges her laughing maniacally, he's just having fun, also give the guy who wrote this soundtrack a phat raise
Can't Grievous ever catch a break from these backup groups and force pushes?
It's always the Force pushes that get him, lol.
He's probably like god dammit not again!
Also for those of you complaining about Grievous in this, you do realize he technically won the fight, right? Ashoka retreated, and plus it seems like Grievous is just toying with her the whole time, as there were many parts where he could have easily cut her down.
As Obi Wan pointed out, Grievous can be all talk sometimes. He's a lonely mutilated man surrounded by droids... For him, fighting a living being is as much about the conversation and intimidation as anything else
(I'm agreeing w you)
@@saragolightly yea he has no one to talk to besides dooku about the war and stuff, besides that all he has as companions are droids
@@ourempires6457 You know, now that I think about it, that can't be good for his mental health. No wonder he puts so much effort into outfitting his Magnaguards like Kaleesh warriors.
@@saragolightlyhe was even laughing during the fight lol
1:16 grievous could use his extra 2 arms to kill ahsoka in this moment
Yea
Yea he was toying with her the whole time
@@kylescott6608that’s a bad execuse from there
Eh after what did to Hondo he kinda needed a break from the usual
"You will never defeat Grevious! NEVER!!!" He says this with the ships guns pointed directly at him. I would've started spamming the shoot button.
"hahahahaha, so many lightsabers to add to m collection"
*Meanwhile at his lair*
Some random droid: MORE LIGHTSABERS, oh great where are we gonna put them ?
As of why grievous threw ashoka instead of hacking her...
I'd say that it's because he's trying with her, i mean he's enjoying his hunt lol.
He even laughs
1:06 - the animators were about to kill Ahsoka but someone said: "Hey, it's a kids show. You can't do that! Just throw her... away."
+Strider449 Well, in another Clone Wars series, Grievous actually killed a Jedi like that. Just by picking him up with his leg and smashing him into the ground.
I think that the reason Grievous rarely kills anyone is that when using his four arms, he usually holds two arms either behind him or on his sides. I mean, he had Ahsoka in hold with two lightsabers, it would've been easy to slice her in four using the other two.
So, yeah, on writers part: it is a kids show and Ahsoka's one of the main characters.
In-story: either he's stupid or simply too cocky.
Sander Kuusk
I guess, every Grievous fan has seen the original Clone Wars. Overall you can see many of his "old CW" moves in this series. Here Grievous is just toying with Ahsoka but he always gets defeated... even by Gungans.
+Sander Kuusk at this point, THE only Villain who has the right to murder Ahsoka, Lord Vader.
Conrado Javier let's hope he doesn't, though.
Strider449 The Downside if Killing Snips is, You didn't see her Ghost in 6.
0:15 hearing this in the actual show after seeing all the memes, i can’t take it serious lol
I could tell that from Ahsoka's face when she saw Grievous wield 4 lightsabers, it was the same expression Sheldon had when he saw the Kripke Krippler's flamethrower: "That's new." Still, she got better after that first encounter.
Bruh what lmao
Grevious: "You will never defeat me"
Obi-Wan: "Hello there"
Grievous always looks sick when he's winning in a fight
Compared with their first battle from season 1, you can really see how far the show’s come
She Protect. She attack. But most importantly. Hondo’s got her back!
It would take a season and a half for Rebels to accumulate this much intensity.
I mean rebels started out with more intensity; you don't know what's gonna happen to them but clone wars we always did. Not to mention the rebels are actually likeable
@@tabbywarrior Early sabine was irrelevant until the mando stuff. Early ezra was annoying. Zeb was also irrelevant until the stuff with Kallus and his homeworld
@@indianwarlord6935 I saw zeb as better comic relief than wrecker, who's honestly just a rip off zeb without a backstory, ezra was relatable to a teen like me, Sabine was interesting because ezra was kinda interested in her and she was pretty mysterious, and it was just lighter yet more interesting than anything the Clone wars has ever offered until season 7. I wanted ahsoka to die in the first 3 seasons because she was the extra 3 prototype, which was done way better in rebels
@@tabbywarrior tbh zeb is a rip off wrecker since the bad batch were made before rebels was released
And it took clone wars 5 seasons.
It took me a while to realize WHY this fight is so fun to watch (other than the music) and its because its one of the only fights in star wars history thats so visceral and physical. Most feel at least somewhat fantastical and look more choreographed than anything: like every single movement was planned rather than done in the heat of the moment. Most of the later clone wars duels accomplished this well. The fight feels grounded. Neither of these characters feel like untouchable dancers until the scene needs them to be hurt. It actually feels like they're swinging to kill.
Basically all the OT fights follow that pattern. Once they started speeding up in the prequel era it became too choreographed to see the chess match going on.
I like the phrase “untouchable dancers”.
That's just your opinion. Both this and the super choreographed fights are great.
Obviously George Lucas wanted to show the Jedi in their prime during the prequels, with a much faster fighting style. A fact that many prequel hating morons fail to understand.
Ah yes, the Ben Kenobi vs Vader fight is so much more entertaining to watch... (sarcasm)
OMFG grevious STOP PLAYING START KILLING!!
He couldn't, that's why he got out-dueled by Kenobi super fast in EP3!
τнє gяєγ ςяοω dude he would never be he stop. Playing besides he like playing this guy General Grievous like playing you know
@@TheSunStudio1 he could but okay
Ahsoka at best could hold Grievous off. But in a prolonged battle he would kill her at this point in her training. But still, she did a good job keeping him at bay long enough for an escape.
Grievous: "You will never defeat Grievous! Never!"
Gungans: "And I took that personally."
This is honestly one of the best fights in the entire clone wars and shows both of these competent warriors at their best. Ahsoka is dodging and and doing the best she can to Keep up with grievous Relentless aggression. The general only uses his spinning hands as a way of approaching and hes almost always on the attack, perfectly fitting his aggressive nature. However you can see at 0:58 Where grievous Is actually dodging and weaving out of Ahsoka's strikes shows his skill quiet well. Both characters use the Skill of duel blading to the best of their ability, using their other weapons to Try and blind side the opponent in Ahsoka's case, or use 2 blades to block 1 lightsaber attack in grievous case. The interesting thing with grievous is he never really exploits his four arms to overwhelm Ahsoka, either as an attempt to win honourably or show his arrogance. This fight is visceral and brutal and its oddly phenomenal. It shows how skilled both of these warriors are and its arguably the closest thing 2008 grievous gets to 2003 grievous.
I think grievous malufuctioned this fight; in legends, idk this is true in canon, grievous can copy the moves sequences of the opponent and in legends it almost learn vapad from windu. So yeah,I think this played in ahsoka's favor too because no matter how many grievous had, none of his adversaries never fought as ahsoka
@@savageopress990 dont think w've ever heard anything relating to grievous doing that in the official cannon. i could very well be wrong though
3 times grievous could've chopped ahsoka in half
+Alketa Sala And the saber lock.
+TheNuisanceBird And smashing Ahsoka into the ground
S!f the Grεat Grεy Wolf Yeah. He was just toying with her. Ahsoka never legitimately contended with either Ventress or Grievous.
The amount of force Grievous puts on that leg smash is able to kill, as seen in TCW 2003 series.
+S!f the Grεat Grεy Wolf Ahsoka is a togruta. They have higher constitutions than humans but still, she should of at least been removed from the fight after that hit.
"YOU WILL NEVER DEFEAT GRIEVOUS! NEVER!!!!!"
Kenobi: So anyways, I started blasting.
Humans after they're born: *cry
Turtles after they're born: 0:00
Bah, they always run.
General Grievous And you don't?
MegaDrainProductions Only in 2008 TCW.
+MegaDrainProductions Sh...shut up! Those were all tactical retreats! >:v
+NCR Vet Grievous ran the moment he was losing in the 2003 clone wars as well
+General Grievous Keep calm, Grievous... I love you! Don't be angry, please
You know you're a badass when Grievous springs all four arms on you from the get go.
When Grevious says "Collection" the way he says it makes it sound like "Kollection" idk why.
+Nemesis A-Type
What's the difference m8. There is non.
+Alaskafish I know I was just saying XD
I can get his overconfidence costing him some victories like this one if it actually felt deserved. If he'd been offing Jedi throughout the series then I could see this more as him being overconfident and toying with this padawan and then losing an opportunity at a kill, but it doesn't feel like he deserved to do that. This just makes him look incompetent. There were a number of solid victories and Jedi deaths they could have given. Like that one air battle where Anakin gets injured. Instead of some random Command Droid it could have been Grievous. With Master Dai on the Seperatist conquest of Ryloth they could have easily shoehorned Grievous in there conquering the planet and killing Master Dai. Plenty of chances to build up this character as a major threat.
But no they made him into Skeletor. At least his voice has some dignity
+ShamanMcLamie Grevious isn't supposed to meet Anakin until episode 3.
bioniclefan1995
It was big sky battle. Anakin never went face to face with the Command Droid in that Episode if I recall correctly. It could have easily been Grievous and it wouldn't have changed the fact they never met in person.
ShamanMcLamie Except in episode 3, they both talk as if they're meeting for the first time. Wouldn't make sense if they fought here then talked like they were fighting for the first time in the third episode.
bioniclefan1995
I just said that they wouldn't still have met.
That moment, when a padawan fights better than a jedi Knight... #badassahsoka
That moment when her plot armour is thicker than Anakins ego...
Julius E. :O
Ahsoka is already Knight level.
Grievous is neither jedi and sith. He was a total warrior before turn to cyborg . He learned to use the lightsabers by count dooku so he can destroy the jedis.He is the greatest jedi killer,because he killed hundreds of them.
Has he killed more than Vader?
Fun fact; this is the last time we see Grievous fight in the entire series.
See even Jedi run from battle as well. Grevious shouldn't be the only one bashed
1:06 tfw you stop using standard attacks and use the unorthodox
It looks like Ahsoka was thinking of staying or sacrificing herself - 1:29 What do you think. Why did she look back at Grivous? It took her time to think of staying or leaving
Yeah I think she thought about to sacrifice herself
1:12 the sound of the lightsabers hiding the ground is the best sound i have ever heard
That throw slam was amazingly brutal! Loved it!
@Scientasy-Guy uhh yeh
Ever notice how Grievous never makes real use of the fact that he has 4 arms holding on to light sabers? Such a shame too.
Fun fact: besides one or two intro sequences, this was grevious’s LAST clone wars appearance
Damn Ahsoka. The plot armor is strong with you.
*plot armor intensifies*
Watch the series, it explains how she survives.
+Nick Dwyer but it doesn't explain why she wasn't stabbed or decapitated now does it?
+Boldizsár “{JAWWER}” because grievous was toying with her and she is also the most skilled Jedi of her age.
Nick Dwyer the second reason doesn't apply here, at 1:05 G could have stabbed her instead of throwing her
+Boldizsár “{JAWWER}” the first reason applys there
Lol can we all just give Ashoka some mad respect for being one of the only youngest Jedi to go toe to toe with GG and actually hold him off and stand her ground I love this character so much and I’m glad she lives pass rise of sky walker!! She was trained by the chosen one ☝🏾 and she become one!
Funny that his initials are GG which stands for good game, when in reality grievous never actually plays fair
Grievous is clearly toying with her, he could've killed her on multiple occaisions here lmao
@@Bobstroyer if it was 2003 grievous then Ashoka is already preparing for her grave
its not yet canon that she lives past TROS. Filoni said he thinks that, but JJAbrams clearly thought different. So far, its, more or less up in the air if shes alive there or not.
The idea of Grevious getting Ahsoka's shoto saber, then activating it later and being confused why one of his sabers is shorter than the rest is funny to me.
For all of the people complaining that Grievous doesn't kill Jedi in this version: What do you think he's doing between episodes? Grievous' collection of lightsabers expands every time he's not in an episode. Also, if he wanted to kill Ahsoka right away, he would have. Grievous was toying with her. He saw hope in her eyes and he wanted to let that build, be augmented with confidence before he overpowered her, outmaneuvered her, and then killed her slowly, painfully, and in every way that one fears. He would then watch that hope and confidence drain from her eyes just as she would take her last breath. The thing is, Ahsoka made her escape just before Grievous could do that.
"Don't let your pursuit of trinkets cloud your reality. Remember what I taught you, General. If you are to succeed in combat against the best of the Jedi, you must have fear, surprise, and intimidation on your side. But if any one element is lacking, it would be best for you to retreat. You must break them before you engage them. Only then will you ensure victory and have your trophy."
+_MaZ_ This totally proves why he toys with her. To get her in this state of exhaustion and make her intimidated.
ryhansen1 The one flaw in this case was that he underestimated her.
Curtis Stokman Yeah, that too. Ahsoka has easily outsmarted and beaten Pre Vizsla, she's capable of handling grevious when not exhausted and weak.
@111402554853748917795 And when Grievous decides that, it's playtime with the Jedi. Had he gone fully serious for that fight, Ahsoka would have died without a doubt.
I’m so sick of everyone complaining about how nerfed Grievous was. I kinda like how he leads from afar rather than in the front line because we already have so many lightsaber wielding soldiers and generals in the front lines and it is interesting to become accustomed to a character’s tactics. I also love me a flawed character and this version is much more arrogant and opportunistic but still very powerful making his losses believable but his wins satisfying and understandable. Not only that but he had his cool moments in this fight and people only seem to remember the end of it when he is hit with a touch of irony of the ship’s blasters as he brags in anger about how he can’t be defeated. The old version was just you waiting for him to smash his opponents in some “cool” way but in this version I can look forward to his corny dialogue, escapes, and scummy tricks making his episodes a lot more fun and the actions leading up to the predictable ending less predictable. Not only that but he is still very skilled in combat and leadership anyways and he has gotten very very close at times but their is also something called story telling and plot so alas Grievous must be defeated.
And can we talk about how sick 1:05 is?
but almost nobody except you wants to see grievous just lead from the back lines. thats simply not what the character was created for. you dont see people asking for thrawn to walk around and kill people with lightsabers - because that character was created to plan and lead from behind the lines. the character grievous, however, was created to get up close and fight jedi with their own weapons. so stop trying to excuse shit bc you are fanboying
@@thahoule7924 except people hate this version of him because they are fanboying about a different version of him- this is George Lucas’ vision of the character: a coward who talks big up against characters with omega plot armor. And it isn’t as if he didn’t have his fair share of victories either and when we often see him in the clone wars it’s when he has an advantage and the republic is going on a counter strike.
Ultimately you can’t really say that this isn’t what was intended for General Grievous because this is his portrayal in most of his media appearances including a mainline movie. And it isn’t as if he doesn’t target nor fight Jedi successfully. He has a pretty expansive trophy room in his lair- most of the Jedi he doesn’t manage to kill in the show are trying to flee from him as well.
Just because a majority of the fandom wanted something different from him doesn’t mean that this version is wrong and that I can’t enjoy this version of him. I wrote my initial comment because I’m fairly alone in my liking of him and wanted to defend this version of the character. You can enjoy the Grievous from legends and the original clone wars cartoon but that wasn’t canon for very long and it wasn’t even Disney who decanonized it. Then everyone in that show was WAY more powerful too- look at Mace Windu up against the super battle droids. So overall it wasn’t just Grievous who was “nerfed” after 2003 but he’s the only one people have a problem with? People aren’t even acknowledging the overall power balancing differences in that show when they get angry about “what happened to Grievous.”
@@AK-Drakoin While I mostly agree with you, I just want to say that just because Grievous being a moustache-twirling coward was Georges' vision for the character, that doesn't automatically make it good or immune to criticism. Many people criticise the flawed decisions George made when creating the Prequels and his questionable vision for Grievous' character is no different.
@@dannyboi5887 That's fair- I've only been a big Star Wars fan for about 5 years now, and the Revenge of the Sith Grievous was kind of the first character I fell in love with from Star Wars. Without my discovery of him I probably wouldn't have gotten into the series.
Melodramatic and arrogant villains with deceptively cool designs are where I live (lol)
So I don't have a lot of the same beef with the direction George Lucas took Star Wars in the Prequels than a lot of the other more long standing fans. (but there are no sequels in Ba Sing Se)
I'm an OG Trilogy fan all the way when it ultimately comes down to it, I could go without either the Prequels or Sequels- so when assessing the Prequels as a whole I have more to say about the directing, pacing, acting, and generally poor plotting of those movies than I do with a singular mischaracterization which ultimately did not change how anyone watches the OGT. So to speak, the change in Grievous is not as questionable as C3PO being built by Anakin, for example. So there in-lies the difference for me...
I think with his current characterization he is also a good foil to Darth Vader which was the main and original intention of his character; there isn't anything really different between Vader and the 2003 Grievous personality wise as good foils ought to be.
Others and you are free to shit on the Clone Wars (2008) Grievous, but for me he will always be "Muh (Guilty Pleasure) Best Boi" who provided what was necessary for the overarching narrative of Anakin's story at the time.
2003: able to face on 6 Jedi, including Masters from the Jedi Council itself
2008: can’t even kill 1 padawan
(i know he was just toying with her and Ahsoka is powerful but c’mon...)
This fight scene is great!!! People, stop complaining..
I thought you never liked Greivous, Senator Amidala.
@@SmellyUnfortunate007 everyone likes me, do you?
@@generalgrievous6021 perhaps...
1:34 Grievous should have used thrust surge
He did actually use it on her before but she force pushed him
This is definitely in my top 5 for favorite cw episodes
The soundtrack for this scene was brilliant, gave a feeling of suspense, if only it'd been longer.
“YOU WILL NEVER DEF-!”
*blasted by the ship*
😂😂
Those kids probably got murdered by Ahsoka's master. Lol
If I was driving that ship I would say "So, I starting blasting." with the ships main cannons.
IDK why people are so butthurt about this scene. Greivous CLEARLY had the upperhand. Ahsoka-who has fought actual Sith before still had to flee the battle after like 5 seconds.
Who was the sith lord she fought before this?
she's a teenager
@@xd51000 Ventress (and later Darth Maul). I don't remember if she fought Dooku with Anakin or Obi-Wan or not.
@@shadowthehedgehog3113 Ventress wasn't a sith. And Ahsoka fought Maul after this, not before.
@@xd51000 she was a sith acolyte
The music is eerily similar to the 2003 theme.
I just realized that before the fight with Asoka grievous had two lightsabers activated then once the younglings run, grievous approachs Asoka and had no lightsabers active. This mean grievous deactivated his two then activated all four for WHAT!!
Grievous running like a spider at the start never fails for give me chills
At least the general final got that fight Ahsoka promised him a while back.
General grievous is the best villain of the clone wars.
satvin raj nope maul and Dooku are
GamingSithLord25 in your dreams grievous is great
asajj ventress is the best villain. she became an anti-hero
ANTOINE RAFAEL R. MAXIMO you are so pathetic just stop it
Green Leaf Productions dafuq
Ok maybe it's just me but the music during Ahsoka and Grievous's battle is epic.
Ahsoka Tano, we grant you the rank of Jedi Plot Armour.
That wasn’t really plot armour ,Grievous is known for toying with his opponents
Ahsoka has thick plot armour
@@OkIPullUp2915She should've been killed by Ventress, Maul or General grievous or at least lost a limb or 2 to these people then maybe it would've been believable.
But yes that plot armour is *thick*
This is one of the only in the clone wars Grievous was done well. The music, the fight. He wasn't a foe that could be beat, only ran from.
Basically warden in Minecraft:
For everyone saying TCW breaks continuity and doesn't make sense with the dialogue in the movies here's the explanation:
General Grievous' amour & cybernetics we're now updated and I don't think he used the spinning arms to that extent on Obi before. So during ROTS that's why Obi-Wan looks shocked. Anakin and General Grievous have never met in the show so that they could have their meeting in ROTS be their first since their dialogue in the movie hints that it was their first, thus keeping continuity. Obi-Wan's line about, "this time we will take him together" is due to their last duel; Anakin and Obi we're dueling the Count and near the end, the Count was escaping on a leaving ship, so Obi had to stay behind to help force push Anakin onto the ship resulting in Anakin and the Count fighting with just them two in the end (the Count still got away). Another duel months before hand, had Anakin dueling the Count on Naboo and Obi-Wan didn't show up until the end. So Obi's line makes sense. Plus all those duels we're months before the end of the war, Anakin was closer to the dark side now and his hair was longer and Jedi robes were different showing time in the war has gone by. General Grievous always repeats lines like, "your lightsaber will make you fine addition to my collection" AND "trained in the Jedi arts..." line was never said before and now, as stated above, the General was now updated with better cybernetics (compare his S7/ROTS model with his earlier ones in the TCW). Plus he's based off of Sunday morning hero vs. villians cartoons and that's how the villians are with repetitive monologues etc. Ashoka wasn't in ROTS movie due to being on Mandalore and her coldness to Anakin helps make his transition seem even smoother than the movie alone. Ashoka and the events of ROTS actually blend together so that you can see them taking place side by side. Ashoka enters the war meeting with Windu and Yoda (during the I sense a plot to destroy the Jedi...scene) after Anakin leaves and Yoda delivers the line, "grave care we must take" and helps keep continuity that much further. TCW near the end further develops the outer rim sieges when Anakin tells Padmè the sieges kept them apart. The end of TCW S7 shows Anakin briefly on Coursant (begining of S7) explaining how she can pregnant. They also explain and show how Anakin could only briefly hologram contact Padmè here and there further explaining how in ROTS that he missed her and how she was pregnant. TCW S6 & S7 shows Palpatine grow in political power now controlling the banks (helps explain funding for the death star) and the war growing. They show Anakin begin to mistrust the Jedi after expelling his Padawan despite being a war hero and saving Windu (S7) and others. They show how order 66 works. The movies are made to be understood on their own and the shows give deeper meaning and context WHILE KEEPING continuity. George made the movies and helped write and develope the show. They flow, "their like poetry". Don't just hate to hate, TCW has some of Star Wars' best moments.
Ahsoka's second lightsaber duel with Grievous on Season 5 protecting the younglings just started last time back in Season 1.
Honestly, Grievous could be the most powerful being in the galaxy if it wasn’t that he like mocking Jedi and not fully using his four arms. Also imagine if he could be able to use the force and just was a good fighter.
I’ve never understood these fighting styles, if grevious has 4 sabers and he is using 2 of them to keep Ahsoka at bay, can he use the other 2 to chop her up? Why does he just not use them?
Ahsoka Tano is my favorite character with clone wars.
Glory to one of the few duels where Grievous doesn't get his ass handed to him. Truly great to see someone forced to run from him instead.
He actually wins most of his duels until the force is used
Ahsoka: *holds her own against Ventress*
Everyone: "This is okay"
Ventress: *Beats Grievous*
Everyone: "This is okay"
Ahsoka: *Holds her own against Grievous*
Everyone: "NoOoOo! ShE sHoUlD dIe! GrIeVoUs Is ToO pOwErFuL! NoOoOo!"
Grievous didn't even try hard, he knew he didn't care, he couldve kicked ventress when ventress had her sabers in air or do a swift stab in the gut
@@GigiM_winx ventress is the better duel out of the two
Am I the only person who isn't complaining about this scene? I actually enjoyed it because we got to see someone else take on Grievous instead of Obi-Wan. I wish people would lower the expectations so much, I get it, you like the 2003 Clone Wars better cause of the way Grievous was in it, and I like it too equally as much as I like this series. Lighten up, if you don't like it, don't watch it, and don't complain. I can't believe everyone wanted her to die here just so it could be declared a show for adults. There are many ways this show can appeal to an older audience, not just through blood, gore, and death. Besides, I'm happy she lived till her departure at the end because I liked her right away.
Who said that only Obi-Wan fights Grievous? Isn't he a Jedi hunter, who fights alot of Jedi?
+TFA Ultimate Prowl Yes he is, but I'm talking about the fact that he and Obi Wan seem to have more run-ins with each other than he does with other Jedi.
+Emily Hill oh, I'm guessing it's because Obi-Wan's the only one who survived the encounters.
I 100% agree with you, I mean this show had fucking decapatation and torque in it. Like is that not adult enough for you people, also I think it gives grievous more personality knowing the he is over confident and not this OP fighting machine, like he has flaws like everyone else. I just don't understand why people can't accept these things, I mean a lot of us have accepted the ending of TCW yet some people can't accept canon grievous. Ugh annoys me so much
Nick Dwyer Very true, and the series matures as you keep watching, lots of dark events and yes this is apparently canon unlike CW 2003. Just cause there's no brutal death doesn't automatically mean it's for kids. Lots of characters die. You're right, it gives Grievous flaws and characters should have that as they develop otherwise it gets boring if they are perfect and overpowered.
Seeing in Ahsoka in action is great. She moves like a comet, relentlessly fast and jaw-droppingly strong.
1:17. Doesn't use his extra two arms to strike Ashoka during the Saber lock....K...
General Grievous
You're the only one to blame, son.
To be fair, it was obvious he was just having fun.
P L O T A R M O R
Grievous fights Jedi because its fun. If he killed them just like that it wouldn't be as satisfying for him.
She would have broken off if he had gone for the kill, granted there's no excuse for not crushing her with his foot.