You did them all in just a year? I've been on Don Quixote for like 4 months now. I like how Esgoo said DotRC is long, but Don is about as long. I have heard DotRC is hard for more reasons than just its length though (like being supposedly impossible to translate due to tons of esoteric wordplay and Chinese cultural stuff)
@@meeszijlstra5426 I've only read the first part of don quixote due to the second part being pretty much just filler, you don't need to read that, so I didn't, I kinda want to read it before the her canto tho
@@opatzo9165 fun on you I watched whole stream vod, he ended it off with "this stream ends ver-" [as I remember correctly](his yap is too fun to watch tbh)
I would like to thank the Esgoo curse. My final comment on my census entry was asking for Funeral of the Dead Butterflies to be added to the game. The Project Moon livestream happened the next day.
I mean, to be fair, it was kinda on the nose. It's a perfect anomaly. Popular, not too strong, stylish. The colour was highly anticipated too. It was between Red and black, tbh. Black is not coming soon now unless it's a... Black Mersault?... Maybe black Sinclair now that I think about it, but he already has dawn so still not in a while. the Purple too since Ryoshu is taken. Blue Hong Lu, everybody. It's a 100% bet. He is already like a discount version of him. As for ego inspired, eh... Big bird?? EGO can be anything, too many cool anomalies. If they ever make Aleph EGOs, they have to start with white nights though.
I would say we are represented a better glimpse of Hong Lu that earnestly tries to understand everything with his innocence still intact in Timekilling Time. While Don's innocence shields her from reality at large, Hong Lu's opens him up to receiving the proverbial river of knowledge, or rather, its comprehension. You can see him both outwardly or implied to be so, in the conversation in TKT with Rodion's fear, with Heath in Canto 6, or even as far back as with Gregor in Canto 1. What's interesting about all this? The fact that Hong Lu still have not entirely understood things despite knowing them. He still is not jaded like Gregor, opportunistic like Outis, despairing like Heath, hedonistic like Ryoshu, he is even more of a blank slate than Faust because we can see her inquisitive nature in Warp train. Hong Lu interacts with all the sinners and their aspect but only in this superficial degree, and i suspect while this might be one of the reasons his siblings are out for his blood, his lack of stance is the one that garners his elders' support to "experience the world with his own two eyes" as stated in TKT, and ultimately saving his life and made him sign the sinner contract, which is very exciting to me. Which brings me to this painful confession that i think Gregor is my least favourite. Legit his Linton ID Uptie Story is way more engaging than his current vanilla lore we got so far.
Gregor just hasn't gotten anything to do. His Canto was shared between himself, the rest of the bus crew, and Yuri, and then he shows up every now and then but never to advance his own plot.
@amiablereaper All in due time. PM has proven to be good writers. Gregor has so many potential from his time in the G Corp war (was it smoke war?) to his relationship with Hermann who seems to spearhead or at least is heavily involved with the activities of the N Corp opposition, just that Canto 1 is not enough to unpack all that and currently other stories take priorities.
I actually don't agree. I think there were plenty of glimpses that Hong Lu is actually quite insightful. And not just general knowledge, I remember him suspecting deceit among other things. I feel like he is at least half fooling us around.
As a Nelly fan I think she's that high because: -She's the first major side character we got introduced to, and was consistently nice to the party up until that certain "event", which is pretty refreshing considering how most other canto side characters are either passive aggressive (saude, effie, dongrang, etc) to straight up antagonistic (everyone else in canto 6 basically). She's also close to Heathcliff and Cathy, boosting her likeabiity by quite a bit -She's kickass awesome ngl. A butler, that doubles as a competent fixer, that knocks people unconcious with bare hands ??? Sign me in -The...thing at the end didn't ruin her character for me, as i can sympathize somewhat with her motivations, if i see what she saw i'd go insane and try anything to get out too -She's cute >;) These are all pretty surface level but i don't want to write a college thesis on why Nelly is a very well written character and is arguably one of the most influential characters from canto 6, so yeah
[Canto 6 spoilers] The idea of a side character in a doomed-by-the-narrative romance story seeing the two dumbasses screwing over everyone and herself because they are unable to just talk to each other and rebelling against her role of being dragged under by their incompetence is actually brilliant
I really love hong lu! I think that one thing that's been really hooking me on him lately is the subtle implication that the people who sign up for Limbus Company do so because they're offered a deal they cannot possibly refuse. In that case, how do you make a deal with a man who already has everything? Clearly he desires more than physical wealth, considering his identities who continually mention that he values experience and novelty over things he can just buy, but there's another part to it, I think. Hong Lu really reminds me of Heathcliff, but in a bit of an inverse of Heath's story. Heathcliff was brought into wuthering heights, treated to fantastic wealth, but also horrible abuse. His takeaway from that experience was that everyone at wuthering heights needed to pay. Hong Lu, instead, was given a very similar treatment, but his takeaway from that experience seems to be 'well, isn't that normal?' I think in a very similar manner, both of them left, but didn't truly leave. Heathcliff left wuthering heights, but mentally he was still in that manor, waiting outside Cathy's door. I think similarly, Hong Lu left his parent's castle, but he's still mentally stuck in his own room, with nothing that really brings him joy. This is also why land of illusion is such an interesting EGO for me, Hong Lu's proposed 'world of wonders' is just an endlessly flowing waterfall and lake. Additionally, calling it the 'land of illusion' also holds a lot of meaning, perhaps he's talking about his mind, or himself. Maybe he's calling his old, pampered life an illusion. Either way, it makes his airheadedness kinda endearing. Despite how incredible competent he's been throughout the story, he's constantly making statements about his life or his past that are clearly inopportune and inappropriate. Our autism king
I have to say, I think a lot of people ignore the importance of Canto 2 in showing a drastic tonal change. The first Canto is very sad and dark, so the second one, being vastly more comedic, helps to show the range that Project Moon has in storytelling, and I think that's underappreciated. Also, the first two Cantos have the problem that there hasn't been time to develop the characters yet, so it's difficult if not impossible to give them an “arc” or “development” as such.
We can talk all day long about tonal difference and all but the plot quite literally has no meat all bone. We can appreciate it for what it is with the timeframe it was made on, hell my FAVORITE subtle nigh-unnoticable foreshadowing that we will have the payoff in CANTO 7 exists in CANTO 2, but even PM themselves admitted that it needs follow up, by creating the Rodion subplot in Timekilling Time.
Tbf reading all sinners books is not that hard. The only problems are finding "Wings" in your own language and forcing yourself to start "Dream of the Red Chamber".
I've been trying to tackle don quijote in my native spanish and holy shit the archaic language throws me through several thousand loops as I go through the dictionary to find out what that word means lmao
@donvitopatata as someone native in English, Wuthering Heights is also kind of hard due to the general archaic words used, Joseph's manner of speaking, the fact that it breaks a lot of punctuation conventions...
reading ANY of Yi-sangs works in foreign languages are really different He EXPLOITED the Korean sentence structure which, if translated ruins the original feeling so i reccomend just watching a review of any of Yi-sangs works if you cant speak Korean. hard to get the full feeling if you read it translated
I'm not too surprised to see her at the top, as her appearance and actions right from the beginning make her stand out among the other Sinners (and many PM characters in general). She comes off as a "comedy relief" like character with how chaotic with how some of her actions can be (at least in the beginning), as well as her general personality being silly, heroic, and generally very positive which is isn't something you normally see in The City. It was also mentioned bit by bit throughout the story that there was more to her then just her chaotic antics. I feel that some of these traits just make her very likeable, entertaining, interesting, memeable (or annoying for the few who don't like her).
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I think 100% the base ID's should get a rework after the canto's to show the change they went through. kinda like how heath's sprite changes but instead of just sprites mechanically as well. that way not only do we get to see the change they went through project moon can also keep them more viable as compared to the newer ID's being released.
@@bullet3417 The base ID's are just them without the ID cards getting slotted in. There is no reason they shouldn't be able to get stronger base ID's as the game progresses.
The main issue with Canto 2 is the dungeon. Everything before it is very fun and well paced, a good enjoyable read. Then you get to the dungeon and it falls off hard. Canto 2 is probably my favorite out of the release chapters if you exclude the final dungeon.
@7fatrats @mangocookie4790 true, the dungeon, the canto in general is funny. But especially compared to gregor and Sinclair, who is directly before and after her, Rodya's story and development can be seen as underwhelming
I didn't participate in the census, but I'm glad that I am the 1% tp read all the books lmao I guess the school forces us to read part of dream of the red chambers pays off huh
Dude that's wild. Even schools in China don't require Dream of the Red Chamber as part of the standard learning, your school's administrators/the people who came up with the curriculum are madmen!
It would be hype if PM had a "bring whatever IDs you think are best" mode for MD and Railway, and then modes that reward you for beating them with specific teams/factions. Basically, just like the Warp train event scaled rewards with charge/Multicrack IDs.
I feel that he will get his time in the sun at some point (even if it's brief like what happened with Rodya and Faust in the past intervallo's) which could boost his popularity. Unfortunately, he did have a Canto that was a huge high production one like Canto's 5 or 6 because it was the beginning of the game. Hopefully, he (along with many of the other less appreciated Sinners) will get more of the spotlight in the future.
I mean, his Canto pretty much showed us how much Gregor hates his arm, Hermann says that there is much more to his arm than what he shows us so maybe his arm is relevant, just not now, and let's be honest, since Hell's Chicken he is pretty much trying to keep low profile, in the warp event you can see the guy hiding his arm when they find the W corp. employe, but doesn't seem like Dante or the other sinners looked at It yet.
Honestly I feel like Warp Train would have given Faust a huge upgrade in terms of favorites and not being least favorite. She was so incredible there and PM really created and sailed a new ship in one scene with Yi Sang Rizzlord ID
For me as a person who had Metamorphosis/Odyssey/Crime and Punishment/Divine Comedy/Don Quixote as a part of school education answering the books part of this survey felt a bit weird. Idk why ukrainian education minister decided we have to read all of those but I did.
honestly Gregor did get a little bit of spotlight in latest intervallo but it was pretty subtle. I was amazed that he was ready to throw down and brawl with Cassetti Remember how he was with the N Corp inquisitors? Gregor always shied away from a fight, tried to talk them down, was always a bit unsure of himself and the company (which contrasted well with Rodya's confidence) But lately he's been balling, absolutely trusting Dante's ability to lead them and ultimately come out on top
@@Punsmaster2yeah I feel like he’s gotten tired of being nice and wanted to go apeshit /ref, like he felt so much more active and angry during MOTWE, despite his 5 lines of dialogue
@@Punsmaster2 he mentions after Caiman shows up that he used to be pretty hotheaded in his youth, I think travelling around with the company has made him remember that :)
As one of 8 people to put LCB Faust as my favorite ID gameplay wise. She was a big help all the way upto Canto 5, her debuffs are good, and I like how well she fuels her ego.
phenomenal video as always goo!! always a pleasure to see your work! and thanks again for the shout out for the library of projmoon blog project! the head mod (yaoidivye), our contributors, and I really, really appreciate it! We're tending to the blog and collection behind the scenes right now, keep an eye out for updates! We're also setting up a google drive with pdfs and epubs for a better reading experience + seeking out pdfs in each book's original language. I am SUPER excited for people to ACTUALLY read Wuthering Heights 💜 tee hee I will also be streaming a full readthrough of The Stranger either on my youtube channel or on twitch, we'll see how I handle that... if PM fans can't read, then it's my duty to read for them 😘
It seems people still haven't realised Canto 1 to 3 weren't actual character arcs, as in we will see 3 more Cantos of these guys so I was confused why they didn't show up on the Census. Canto 1 and 2 only told of us Gregor and Rodion's past but did zero in any character development, hell Rodion had more character development in Killing Time than her "own canto." Lastly, Canto 3 barely left Sinclair any different than from what he was before that. In his source text Kromer was only a side character, and Damian of course is a proof enough Sinclair isn't finished.
That's all fine and good, but we're still judging each Canto on its own merits and nothing outside of that. Canto II is Canto II, and we're going to vote on how we feel about Canto II without the consideration of a Canto II-2 (Purgatorio Edition) because we don't even have that hypothetical event yet.
@@8pierrot89 There is a high chance that their Cantos will appear again in Inferno instead. Because the whole point of Inferno is building up the sinners.
Frankly I still think canto 4 is the worst IMO. It's the first 48 stage canto and by stage 35 or so you REALLY feel it. To add to that, none of the side characters were really compelling to me, and I just. Hated Dongrang. I wanted him off my screen. He spends all of 48 stages being like "I'm a business executive, I'm an evil heartless bastard, because that's how the real world works, you fucking baby" and then the story expects me to A. Care about him as a tragic character B. Slog through his RIDICULOUSLY slow boss fight that does everything in the devs power to give him more ehp through protection, stuns, etc, and C listen to the slowest and saddest piano piece the whole time
as is last time - I feel recency bias plays into this an absolute ton. Especially in boss fights/canto excitement. But I’ll remain excited and hopeful to see another census and monitor how it plays into things
A comment about the Most Favorite/Least Favorite poll: I don't think "hate" really fits the perspective of the Least Favorites, since you could like all of the Sinners or at least don't dislike them (though, abstaining is an option). That said, regarding Gregor being the fifth Least Favorite, what you said about Outis fans being obnoxious to the point of people disliking her could also apply to Gregor since he gets memed a lot.
@@donvitopatata Problem is, demian already cucked him out of having a story arc at all (bastard that he is). Best case is that Sinclair KILLS demian because he already stole the biggest challenge from him.
Whoever in that stream said Ryoshu is just violence is entirely wrong atp, like bro they are pushing the obvious signs so foreward it's insane people won't pick up on it. Anyways as for why Nelly is above anyone she's an understandable and neat character, like imagine seeing into every single mirror world (Debatably probably lied to by Hermann as well) and seeing that in every single world your life is ruined, stolen from you, I'd betray everyone I knew if that was the case too, and then below her on the list was Guldo and Effie so like
The Baba Yaga fight sucks because we didn't actually *fight* it, Rodya chose to ran away like she runs away from her problems. I'm hoping we get a proper Baba Yaga fight alongside proper development for Rodya too.
I honestly agree on the nerf-buff thing. I played TF2 in its heyday, I feel like nerfs or nerfing as a balance ideology just takes away good and/or interesting ways to play. Instead of nerfs to options that are already good, make other less good options better with buffs. People will deviate if only to try and do something new.
I feel like limbus has a good way to nerf, that doesnt exist in tf2. Nerfs by circumstances can be great. RHeath will lose relevance with longer battles being the norm, however it opens the new strategy of speedrunning Quick Suppression and then dying on purpose. It is by all means... a nerf, but it opens new avenues of usage and finally gives him an actual niche
Yeah I left a comment on the census that I do not like Faust. And then of course I did the event and I’m like “wow okay, they actually did something really interesting here that’s way better.” Also if they screw up canto 7 and it is not the best thing to ever be created for my little blood-fiend I will rend the sky in twain and bring forth the fire and brimstone that awaits us all in an eternal void, where the gacha pulls are worse and the free lunacy is 20. Per month.
I dunno, my personal stance is Charge is best; I hate managing Tremor and Poise is just..... oh wow. Crit for big number. I have numbers go BRRR in other games. Now if we could get something new with Burn and Rupture.
unfortunately at the time of the poll, i had not read all the books only missing out on wuthering heights so i was unable to be part of those proud original 136. Since then however i have joined their ranks and i regret everything.
V sad my brother's mini essay about The Stranger didn't get mentioned but alas, it wasn't as funny as ranting about tomatoes. Also, while Hong Lu is my favorite sinner, I am not affiliated with that hong lu fan guy
28:50 I want railways back because of Content + Story for NEW PLAYERS They get all this Story part talking about it but they get the HARDEST Version, WTF!? Mirror dungeon kinda softens this issue by having normal level you up, but still, cant do hard until catching up to story. I CANT Imagine new players 1-2 years in trying any of both content with a level cap around 60-70
hello, esgoo! kindest regards! i recently have come to the realization of your dislike for tomatoes. unfortunately, i can't accept this. tomatoes can be used for many delicious meals. have you ever heard of a bit, esgoo? i really like bits. they remind me of the days before the accident, esgoo. when i used to eat bits with her, before the accident. i miss her every day, esgoo. tomatoes are one of the best foods out there, and i feel i've been betrayed by your dislike of tomatoes. what say you, esgoo? what say you about tomatoes? that they're the worst food ever? of course you'd say that. you don't know how much she meant to me. i also like delicious pasta, in which you use tomato sauce. mm, yummy tomato sauce. yum. mm, delicious. i like ketchup with my fries. you probably like tomato sauce and ketchup, don't you? so you aren't truly set in your "tomato hating grindset". i see. well, perhaps you should rethink your ways and give tomatoes another try. perhaps they'll also remind you of days before the accident, esgoo. please think about it. i know you're better than hating tomatoes, esgoo. i miss her, esgoo.
i FUCKING BELIEVE that Shi will be BOOSTED up into the charts during Ryoshu's canto. Shi=4=death(in Japanese)=Ryoshu SHI WILL BE REVIVED, KIM JI HOON DIDNT FORGET
6:20 Meursault is by far my favorite sinner. He's reliable to a fault, and it's played for the kind of dry humor that I adore. Him utilizing his Ego on Erlking was so creative and cool, and the intruige of him saying he used to go clubbing? I am just so fascinated by what they're gonna do for his Canto. I do also relate to him heavily as an autistic person, since he explains he used to be far more expressive and share his thoughts openly and the way he behaves now is very similar to how I masked my behavior. So seeing him show proactive behavior instead of purely reactive is really touching to me. I want to see him unburdened by the chairs that others have placed on him.
@@Our_Remedya buildup of character narrative throughout the story instead of one big lore dump that doesn't get touched ever again for the next year or two.
It's kinda sad that you aren't that interested in Crime and Punishment. It has nothing to do with Rodion, just like most of the books, hers is more "Gambler" but if we talk general theme, Ishmael is honestly more suited to be under Dostoevsky's wing, imo. He is like an Ahab of literature. When he writes about obsessed and/or mad people, which he does a lot, you can't help but get swept up by his writing and get a little possesed (get it) yourself. Very distortion friendly, Highly recommended.
Are we, by any chance, getting the actual responses to browse through? I want to read the "Sleeping with Sinners (family friendly)" list from 56:16 in full.
i've that canto 2 reminds me a lot of the second singularity of FGO where you had a pretty interesting starting act with the first chapter of the story but chapter two only gets less interesting in retrospective. Canto 2 is significantly better writed than Septem but it's still lack luster in their respective games
Septem is still probably worse than Canto II because it suffers from the problem a lot of older gacha games did at launch where story-only nodes didn't exist yet (and maybe the devs weren't sure how invested people would be in the storytelling?) so every node needed to force some kind of battle - the infamous "We've got wyverns!" meme. Granblue Fantasy also kind of suffers this, and probably more gacha games (or even games in general) that aren't on my radar. Canto II still definitely has too many filler battles and one of the more tedious story dungeons (no, I don't want to "get beat hurtily", by which I mean "wait for the Surgery gimmick to go away") but it's still an alright story chapter... but only alright, and PM had already set an extremely high standard for storytelling by this point and would only raise it further in the future.
Getting the EX objective on the stage where you only have Heath and Don was kinda painful though. The only Heathcliff ID I had was rabbit and he would run out of ammo by the second wave, so I had to wait until I got Multicrack
Kim deserved at least 5 place because he's the chaddest of the chads he distorted and instead of going insane like Phillip he went on a fucking rampage killing everyone and then had the best themed id (blade lineage meursault the goat)
Im fairly certain I'm the Rosesault favorite ID enjoyer. He's been on my go to Tremor team since his release with Rodion, back on the old days where I refused to sub in Regret Faust for him and Zwei Sinclair. The good ol days of Limbus. I'll be picking him next census for sure, should I not be dead. My boyfriend bullied me in call about that when we watched this together.
Focusing on the railway subject, make it weekly, they either rotate or come up at random each week, you have missions, it's win win, more engagement and more content for us
Bringing back previous RRs would also fix the narrative dissonance where it's pseudo-explained in a mini-section between chapters and references, what, the 2nd iteration?
The problem with rupture is count. I like Rupture but atm besides a relatively strict team, rupture just feels like bonus damage. I wonder if Sloshmel would be more loved if it was 5 rupture count instead of just 5 torture? I want more lccb or lcaa crew
About the Sinner's Book Of Origin (IYKYK) Are there fanmade Sinners out there? Any ideas? Mine? "Your suggestions are noted, dear nighttime muggers. As for MY suggestion... *Y' c'ld... HIDE!"*
I don't know for the lore part... for me BLMeursault have the more lore. Nclair made us learn only that multiple words exist... yeaaaah... and dawn office sinclair made us hear a part of the discution with Carmen... but nothing incredible. lobcorp outis is interesting but we still don't know anything about her journey, and if we have read wonderlab we already knew abnormality speak to the employe to make pact. BLmeursault made us learn almost a book of lore about the corp! the political power, the way of life, the entire story of Kim that we had no idea even with his book in LOR... it's the most we learned ever of an uptight.
I read wuthering heights, metamorphosis, and the stranger (meursalt) in school, and yes I’m American I read hell screen, the Odessy, and The wings in my own time, the rest I’m too lazy to read (some of them are so fucking long)
32:16 I really dont buy that it's recency bias. Like that is a small part of this. Because you cant honestly tell me In Hell We Live, Lament is EVER hitting anywhere close to as hard as Compass' climax when she throws the harpoon at the heart. Or that Fly My Wings makes you feel as heartbroken as Through Patches of Violet finally reaching the duet where they realize they were always held dearly in the hearts of the other?
But that has more to do with the Cantos than with the Mili Music, no? I can listen to Hell We Live, Lament on my playlist while jogging or going to somewhere than Compass, so I put them above in best Mili Song, because the Song can sustain itself
To the right of this video in my feed was a Katana Zero OST video so you can imagine my surprise and confusion when I click on this one to immediately hear Katana Zero OST ....Good choice, really
It's actually a bit funny for me looking over the book related statistics because I realized when you said americans generally read the odyssey as part of their education, I realized that yeah, I had actually read it a bit back in high school, and just completely forgot about it when I was filling out the form myself. Not sure if I would actually still count that as actually reading it, as for my experience with it was just going over the basics of it mostly in school, but still, I guess I have read at least one of the stories.
as a La Sangre De Sancho hater, it is because of the numbers. low min roll, low max roll, useless on hit effect nine times out of ten, same for the passive. i feel bad every time i use it, because i know how much more it could do. Warp express did knock it up a few places in my estimation though, so that's nice.
@@bestaround3323 most content healing isn't actually that beneficial, fights are fairly short and death means very little with chain battles, so you really only particularly want healing on a ramp up id, but you'd rather said id be doing thier ramp up thing and not spend their turn using a low rolling ego. Especially with fluid sac/pursuance existing which more then take cares of any healing you could want anyway
@bestaround3323 like 10 or 15 health, and only on Don. Even Soup-clair heals closer to 20 on the whole team. Passive does nothing without bleed. Compare with fairy festival Ishmael, healing 8 or so on hit up to 7 times, with a passive with a pathetically easy activation requirement to trigger for more healing... and a damage bonus if you don't need to heal.
@@piscenicprodigy8816Soup literally can't clash, wingbeat is a walpurg HE ego, and is not on Don. It is a cheap 25 rolling ego that heals and inflicts bleed.
@bestaround3323 compare it to every other base EGO then. The only one that's worse is Branch of Knowledge, and only in the sanity department. It clashes 2 higher, and inflicts 12 rupture, much more useful that 8 bleed. Suddenly One Day is also a contender, but still clashes higher on heads and tails, and neither of these two demand UT4 to roll higher than a 23. If you want to heal exactly Don, then use any of the other AOE healing EGO that exists on half the cast, most of them don't have a 5% chance to lose their clash and be wasted. It's bad healing, it's terrible at clashing for an EGO, it's passive is bad, and you're *stuck with it* until she gets a new Zayin.
all of the cantos i look forward to most are right at the back end, but im taking that as a free pass to wrap up reading all those books before then tbh
Sorry but I absolutely despise the idea of missions for the railways. Personally, I find them difficult enough simply clearing them once, especially when trying to keep under the challenge tally. Having to do railway repeatedly would make the novelty go away fast and just make the experience tedious and annoying. I do think new repeatable content would be appreciated (especially for the resources needed for the exponentially rising costs.) I just would prefer if it was a mode made to be farmed and not a one-off event that was jury-rigged with a mission system I already dislike.
Ive read everything but Dream of the Red Chamber, because as you said, finding a readable copy is a pain, and finishing it is a chore. And I read hundreds of books a year. Im no slouch. So I accuse that 1% of lying. Only like 9 of you actually accomplished that feat. The rest of you probably just looked up the synopsis on Wikipedia, or watched the films and counted those. Because out of the 13 books there, theres always going to be one that just isnt your vibe. Someone who loves Wuthering Heights probably wont find joy in The Wings, or 'The Stranger' and 'Metamorphosis' probably wont align well with those who enjoy Don Quixote. Etc etc. To succeed youd either have to be a nerd for literature, or have forced yourself to read through at least one book you disliked, just to know the lore of that sinner. So, if you genuinely did read all of them, I'm impressed, but theres a lot of doubt that over a hundred of you did.
@@bestaround3323 Oh yes. The books are great, but not all of them are for everyone, so saying you've read all of them is just as suspect as saying you enjoyed every single Refraction Railway. There's going to be at least one you dislike, and it's unlikely you'd put yourself through all of them if given the choice.
I enjoy reading a lot, but being forced to read Don Quixote in school is one of the things that almost made me dislike reading as a whole. I cant put in words how much i despise Don Quixote, amor de perdição and Iracema for these reasons.
I'm pretty much the opposite, aka I read Dream of the Red Chamber, but only Dante's Inferno specifically, The Odyssey and Don Quixote in addition, mostly because we had to in school. I found a copy of dotrc on tumblr (a Hong Lu fan posted a zip file with the David Hawkes version on there) and found it a surprisingly easy read in my case. I'm going to start reading Hell Screen and Faust soon too, since I also found pretty good copies of them at a local library and I'm debating whether to go all the way and just read all the sinner books or not. I might just pick them up as they interest me or if I want to theorycraft and need knowledge on specific things from a particular book, but for now, I guess I'll just see how far I can go
I used to read a lot, until I started associating this hobby with loneliness. its kind of hard to get back into it, so most of the sinners Books I read have been for school. Another thing is language, I am not a native english speaker and some books... are hard. Wuthering Heights is a bit of a tough read already for me, and some books just... kind of dont exist in german.
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ive read all the books and i gotta say, for the full year reading all of them, half of the year was reading dream of the red chamber.
"Oh WOW..." 0_o
Did you managed to read the red chamber in english?
You did them all in just a year? I've been on Don Quixote for like 4 months now. I like how Esgoo said DotRC is long, but Don is about as long. I have heard DotRC is hard for more reasons than just its length though (like being supposedly impossible to translate due to tons of esoteric wordplay and Chinese cultural stuff)
@@meeszijlstra5426 I've only read the first part of don quixote due to the second part being pretty much just filler, you don't need to read that, so I didn't, I kinda want to read it before the her canto tho
What is the author from gregros book
This video is perfect for my inability to sleep, and starts...now.
(I mean this only in the highest of praises. I wasn't gonna sleep anyway. Thanks, Esgoo, you've genuinely made this a much better night.)
Insane man talks for 50 minutes
Schiz-GOO
INSANE streamer YAP for 50 minutes
@@opatzo9165 fun on you I watched whole stream vod, he ended it off with "this stream ends ver-" [as I remember correctly](his yap is too fun to watch tbh)
The voices are getting louder
Local insane citizen tries not to distort mid-stream
I would like to thank the Esgoo curse. My final comment on my census entry was asking for Funeral of the Dead Butterflies to be added to the game. The Project Moon livestream happened the next day.
Yi Sang: THANATOS...
I mean, to be fair, it was kinda on the nose. It's a perfect anomaly. Popular, not too strong, stylish.
The colour was highly anticipated too. It was between Red and black, tbh. Black is not coming soon now unless it's a... Black Mersault?... Maybe black Sinclair now that I think about it, but he already has dawn so still not in a while. the Purple too since Ryoshu is taken. Blue Hong Lu, everybody. It's a 100% bet. He is already like a discount version of him.
As for ego inspired, eh... Big bird?? EGO can be anything, too many cool anomalies. If they ever make Aleph EGOs, they have to start with white nights though.
I would say we are represented a better glimpse of Hong Lu that earnestly tries to understand everything with his innocence still intact in Timekilling Time. While Don's innocence shields her from reality at large, Hong Lu's opens him up to receiving the proverbial river of knowledge, or rather, its comprehension. You can see him both outwardly or implied to be so, in the conversation in TKT with Rodion's fear, with Heath in Canto 6, or even as far back as with Gregor in Canto 1. What's interesting about all this? The fact that Hong Lu still have not entirely understood things despite knowing them. He still is not jaded like Gregor, opportunistic like Outis, despairing like Heath, hedonistic like Ryoshu, he is even more of a blank slate than Faust because we can see her inquisitive nature in Warp train. Hong Lu interacts with all the sinners and their aspect but only in this superficial degree, and i suspect while this might be one of the reasons his siblings are out for his blood, his lack of stance is the one that garners his elders' support to "experience the world with his own two eyes" as stated in TKT, and ultimately saving his life and made him sign the sinner contract, which is very exciting to me.
Which brings me to this painful confession that i think Gregor is my least favourite. Legit his Linton ID Uptie Story is way more engaging than his current vanilla lore we got so far.
Gregor just hasn't gotten anything to do. His Canto was shared between himself, the rest of the bus crew, and Yuri, and then he shows up every now and then but never to advance his own plot.
@amiablereaper All in due time. PM has proven to be good writers. Gregor has so many potential from his time in the G Corp war (was it smoke war?) to his relationship with Hermann who seems to spearhead or at least is heavily involved with the activities of the N Corp opposition, just that Canto 1 is not enough to unpack all that and currently other stories take priorities.
@@aereonexapprentice7205We’ll probably get more of his development in the arc where we fight Hermann and the N Corp baddies.
@aereonexapprentice7205 yeah, people just have to trust the process
I actually don't agree. I think there were plenty of glimpses that Hong Lu is actually quite insightful. And not just general knowledge, I remember him suspecting deceit among other things. I feel like he is at least half fooling us around.
Classic Lunartique W
5:56 sleep with both eyes open
fitting pfp lmao
Real
As a Nelly fan I think she's that high because:
-She's the first major side character we got introduced to, and was consistently nice to the party up until that certain "event", which is pretty refreshing considering how most other canto side characters are either passive aggressive (saude, effie, dongrang, etc) to straight up antagonistic (everyone else in canto 6 basically). She's also close to Heathcliff and Cathy, boosting her likeabiity by quite a bit
-She's kickass awesome ngl. A butler, that doubles as a competent fixer, that knocks people unconcious with bare hands ??? Sign me in
-The...thing at the end didn't ruin her character for me, as i can sympathize somewhat with her motivations, if i see what she saw i'd go insane and try anything to get out too
-She's cute >;)
These are all pretty surface level but i don't want to write a college thesis on why Nelly is a very well written character and is arguably one of the most influential characters from canto 6, so yeah
my goat guido better
Nelly the goat
[Canto 6 spoilers]
The idea of a side character in a doomed-by-the-narrative romance story seeing the two dumbasses screwing over everyone and herself because they are unable to just talk to each other and rebelling against her role of being dragged under by their incompetence is actually brilliant
I agree.
If only her bossfight wasn’t so ass…
@wy7177 by ass do you mean it was too easy? Poorly designed? Or too hard?
I really love hong lu! I think that one thing that's been really hooking me on him lately is the subtle implication that the people who sign up for Limbus Company do so because they're offered a deal they cannot possibly refuse.
In that case, how do you make a deal with a man who already has everything? Clearly he desires more than physical wealth, considering his identities who continually mention that he values experience and novelty over things he can just buy, but there's another part to it, I think.
Hong Lu really reminds me of Heathcliff, but in a bit of an inverse of Heath's story. Heathcliff was brought into wuthering heights, treated to fantastic wealth, but also horrible abuse. His takeaway from that experience was that everyone at wuthering heights needed to pay. Hong Lu, instead, was given a very similar treatment, but his takeaway from that experience seems to be 'well, isn't that normal?'
I think in a very similar manner, both of them left, but didn't truly leave. Heathcliff left wuthering heights, but mentally he was still in that manor, waiting outside Cathy's door. I think similarly, Hong Lu left his parent's castle, but he's still mentally stuck in his own room, with nothing that really brings him joy.
This is also why land of illusion is such an interesting EGO for me, Hong Lu's proposed 'world of wonders' is just an endlessly flowing waterfall and lake. Additionally, calling it the 'land of illusion' also holds a lot of meaning, perhaps he's talking about his mind, or himself. Maybe he's calling his old, pampered life an illusion.
Either way, it makes his airheadedness kinda endearing. Despite how incredible competent he's been throughout the story, he's constantly making statements about his life or his past that are clearly inopportune and inappropriate. Our autism king
I have to say, I think a lot of people ignore the importance of Canto 2 in showing a drastic tonal change. The first Canto is very sad and dark, so the second one, being vastly more comedic, helps to show the range that Project Moon has in storytelling, and I think that's underappreciated. Also, the first two Cantos have the problem that there hasn't been time to develop the characters yet, so it's difficult if not impossible to give them an “arc” or “development” as such.
The problem is that ending boss is so ass
I think most people that say canto 2 is worst don't like Baba Yaga a bit
Still waiting for Gregor's sister to appear in some way
they could make it much better and more grandoise but they arent
We can talk all day long about tonal difference and all but the plot quite literally has no meat all bone. We can appreciate it for what it is with the timeframe it was made on, hell my FAVORITE subtle nigh-unnoticable foreshadowing that we will have the payoff in CANTO 7 exists in CANTO 2, but even PM themselves admitted that it needs follow up, by creating the Rodion subplot in Timekilling Time.
the canto 2 dungeon had me in physical pain there was NO reason for it to be half as long as it was
Tbf reading all sinners books is not that hard. The only problems are finding "Wings" in your own language and forcing yourself to start "Dream of the Red Chamber".
I've been trying to tackle don quijote in my native spanish and holy shit the archaic language throws me through several thousand loops as I go through the dictionary to find out what that word means lmao
As someone not native in english, wuthering heights is hard...
@donvitopatata as someone native in English, Wuthering Heights is also kind of hard due to the general archaic words used, Joseph's manner of speaking, the fact that it breaks a lot of punctuation conventions...
reading ANY of Yi-sangs works in foreign languages are really different
He EXPLOITED the Korean sentence structure which, if translated ruins the original feeling
so i reccomend just watching a review of any of Yi-sangs works if you cant speak Korean. hard to get the full feeling if you read it translated
@@poweroff1225 I imagine something similar happens to non-english players of Limbus any time Ryoshu talks.
had to have someone balance it out lol.
Don Quixote being at the peak when her canto is near doesn't surprise me.
ALSO RYOSHU 5TH BIG W
Don was first last time too. She's just the communities favorite
You have to be mentaly insane to not like don
@@John_Robertson_3rdofc mentally insane community would favor the most insane sinner in history
I'm not too surprised to see her at the top, as her appearance and actions right from the beginning make her stand out among the other Sinners (and many PM characters in general).
She comes off as a "comedy relief" like character with how chaotic with how some of her actions can be (at least in the beginning), as well as her general personality being silly, heroic, and generally very positive which is isn't something you normally see in The City. It was also mentioned bit by bit throughout the story that there was more to her then just her chaotic antics.
I feel that some of these traits just make her very likeable, entertaining, interesting, memeable (or annoying for the few who don't like her).
Ryoshu is generally comic relief herself at this point. She started off as an absolute asshole but she's just been comedy since even canto 2.
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As soon as I started reading this I remembered Tsukihime...
@Ramsey276one THIS CHAIR THIS CHAIR THIS CHAIR THIS CHAIR
Chair.
@@Ramsey276one Ive actually never heard of that until today lol
this is more tense than when a country tally’s the vote
I think 100% the base ID's should get a rework after the canto's to show the change they went through. kinda like how heath's sprite changes but instead of just sprites mechanically as well. that way not only do we get to see the change they went through project moon can also keep them more viable as compared to the newer ID's being released.
They are base ID's for a reason
@@bullet3417 The base ID's are just them without the ID cards getting slotted in. There is no reason they shouldn't be able to get stronger base ID's as the game progresses.
@@bullet3417 If anything, base IDs SHOULD be getting much better, you can't compare the sinners now vs the sinners on the start lol
@@Motemeii no they not they are base for a reason
@@bullet3417GOD FORBID we want the free IDs to get slightly better
The main issue with Canto 2 is the dungeon. Everything before it is very fun and well paced, a good enjoyable read. Then you get to the dungeon and it falls off hard. Canto 2 is probably my favorite out of the release chapters if you exclude the final dungeon.
I do enjoy fighting You Want To Get Beat? Hurtily? in Mirror Dungeon. Pretty fun to beat up tbh.
@@daifuku1948 the dungeon was not that bad as people make it out to be
It's funny, because I liked the dungeon MUCH MORE than the rest of it. At least tin the dungeon, the plot actually advances.
@7fatrats @mangocookie4790 true, the dungeon, the canto in general is funny. But especially compared to gregor and Sinclair, who is directly before and after her, Rodya's story and development can be seen as underwhelming
It's unfortunate Hong Lu is consistently the least favorite and least anticipated sinner
Invest in Hong Lu stocks now! With tkt his time to shine has only begun
I've always been on team hong lu~ he's simmering in the back, being hot, being whimsical, he'll get his time~
@@donvitopatata his canto will literally have one of the more major events in the city ever, the side switching will go crazy
can't wait for the switch over to the hong lu side next census
I’ll stand by Hong Lu no matter what. He may just be a wallflower most of the time but I love him for that
Captain really Gaslighted everyone to vote her (I got gaslighted willingly)
I didn't participate in the census, but I'm glad that I am the 1% tp read all the books lmao
I guess the school forces us to read part of dream of the red chambers pays off huh
what country are you from, do you take literature. having dream of the red chamber being part of curriculum is crazy
Dude that's wild. Even schools in China don't require Dream of the Red Chamber as part of the standard learning, your school's administrators/the people who came up with the curriculum are madmen!
It would be hype if PM had a "bring whatever IDs you think are best" mode for MD and Railway, and then modes that reward you for beating them with specific teams/factions. Basically, just like the Warp train event scaled rewards with charge/Multicrack IDs.
My biggest issue with gregor is that I expected the bug arm to be more plot relevant but it has done nothing since canto 1 flashbacks
I feel that he will get his time in the sun at some point (even if it's brief like what happened with Rodya and Faust in the past intervallo's) which could boost his popularity.
Unfortunately, he did have a Canto that was a huge high production one like Canto's 5 or 6 because it was the beginning of the game. Hopefully, he (along with many of the other less appreciated Sinners) will get more of the spotlight in the future.
I mean, his Canto pretty much showed us how much Gregor hates his arm, Hermann says that there is much more to his arm than what he shows us so maybe his arm is relevant, just not now, and let's be honest, since Hell's Chicken he is pretty much trying to keep low profile, in the warp event you can see the guy hiding his arm when they find the W corp. employe, but doesn't seem like Dante or the other sinners looked at It yet.
I think you mean didn't*@@silxer3154
@@tcherlesonravel9117 Also Gregor has library signs in his base EGO.
0:01 katana zero ost jumpscare
Peak spotted
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO
Honestly I feel like Warp Train would have given Faust a huge upgrade in terms of favorites and not being least favorite. She was so incredible there and PM really created and sailed a new ship in one scene with Yi Sang Rizzlord ID
Faust can be something other than a pridefull AI is amazing, she was really boring before that, seeing her in a state of doubt was really intersting
For me as a person who had Metamorphosis/Odyssey/Crime and Punishment/Divine Comedy/Don Quixote as a part of school education answering the books part of this survey felt a bit weird. Idk why ukrainian education minister decided we have to read all of those but I did.
Ну, все довольно познавательны, за исключением, может, Метаморфоз и Божественной комедии...
@@zackgalaxy4801для тебя Дон Кихот познавательнее Превращения?? Так уж и пиши, что "интереснее", не нужно из себя ничего строить
Yeah, metamorphosis probably shouldn't be a part of a school program, tbh.
Honestly I love all the sinners so much I couldn't even pick a least favourite
They all have their small moments that I either find funny, wholesome, etc so I personally don't have a least favorite as well.
@dingusdongus4498 womp womp
@@Number1SinclairFanYou simp for a pissbaby who has zero confidence in himself.
incredibly based pfp
Nelly is not only cute but also cunning and deceiving and Ryoshu has an ID of her. Best side character
Ngl i saw "cunning" and thought you were gonna end this in a very different way
I JUST combed through the entire VOD to find the highlights and this gets posted 😭 Thank you for your hard work Esgoober!! o7
AHAB-MAEL IS THE BEST DESIGNED IDENTITY! I HATE THE WHALE THAT WE'RE HUNTING!!
want to be obsessed over? harpoonily?
THE FAULT LIES WITH ESGOO! ALL OF IT!!!
YOU
MUST
BECOME
STRONG
Seeing it happen live on stream feels like playing a canto pre-nerf
Esgoo's ranting helps me sleep better
Especially when he screams at old 2d women
Absolutely did Gregor dirty. Why do so many people hate my boy
honestly Gregor did get a little bit of spotlight in latest intervallo but it was pretty subtle. I was amazed that he was ready to throw down and brawl with Cassetti
Remember how he was with the N Corp inquisitors? Gregor always shied away from a fight, tried to talk them down, was always a bit unsure of himself and the company (which contrasted well with Rodya's confidence)
But lately he's been balling, absolutely trusting Dante's ability to lead them and ultimately come out on top
He's such a loser, and i love him for that
@@Punsmaster2yeah I feel like he’s gotten tired of being nice and wanted to go apeshit /ref, like he felt so much more active and angry during MOTWE, despite his 5 lines of dialogue
@@Punsmaster2 he mentions after Caiman shows up that he used to be pretty hotheaded in his youth, I think travelling around with the company has made him remember that :)
So basically Captain Ishmael and Dawnclair are the two IDs in the game
Horsecliff will be the third, yay!
As one of 8 people to put LCB Faust as my favorite ID gameplay wise. She was a big help all the way upto Canto 5, her debuffs are good, and I like how well she fuels her ego.
Amazing work Mr. Goo
phenomenal video as always goo!! always a pleasure to see your work! and thanks again for the shout out for the library of projmoon blog project! the head mod (yaoidivye), our contributors, and I really, really appreciate it!
We're tending to the blog and collection behind the scenes right now, keep an eye out for updates! We're also setting up a google drive with pdfs and epubs for a better reading experience + seeking out pdfs in each book's original language.
I am SUPER excited for people to ACTUALLY read Wuthering Heights 💜 tee hee
I will also be streaming a full readthrough of The Stranger either on my youtube channel or on twitch, we'll see how I handle that... if PM fans can't read, then it's my duty to read for them
😘
Im surprised there are more faust mains than hong lu mains
Lumii!???
Wdym mains? Lol
I love hong lu
we're really loud - hong lu 'main'
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It seems people still haven't realised Canto 1 to 3 weren't actual character arcs, as in we will see 3 more Cantos of these guys so I was confused why they didn't show up on the Census. Canto 1 and 2 only told of us Gregor and Rodion's past but did zero in any character development, hell Rodion had more character development in Killing Time than her "own canto." Lastly, Canto 3 barely left Sinclair any different than from what he was before that. In his source text Kromer was only a side character, and Damian of course is a proof enough Sinclair isn't finished.
It's still not the best cantos lol
That's all fine and good, but we're still judging each Canto on its own merits and nothing outside of that. Canto II is Canto II, and we're going to vote on how we feel about Canto II without the consideration of a Canto II-2 (Purgatorio Edition) because we don't even have that hypothetical event yet.
@@bullet3417 i dont mean best cantos, i mean for future cantos. Cantos required for their character development.
@@8pierrot89 There is a high chance that their Cantos will appear again in Inferno instead. Because the whole point of Inferno is building up the sinners.
Frankly I still think canto 4 is the worst IMO. It's the first 48 stage canto and by stage 35 or so you REALLY feel it. To add to that, none of the side characters were really compelling to me, and I just. Hated Dongrang. I wanted him off my screen. He spends all of 48 stages being like "I'm a business executive, I'm an evil heartless bastard, because that's how the real world works, you fucking baby" and then the story expects me to A. Care about him as a tragic character B. Slog through his RIDICULOUSLY slow boss fight that does everything in the devs power to give him more ehp through protection, stuns, etc, and C listen to the slowest and saddest piano piece the whole time
I find it extremely difficult to believe people dislike sinclair more then honglu
Probably because we are guaranteed content for him soon since his Canto his after Don Quixote
@@LeebThatsCanned Hong Lu is great
i think they both of them should makeout sloppy instead
as is last time - I feel recency bias plays into this an absolute ton. Especially in boss fights/canto excitement. But I’ll remain excited and hopeful to see another census and monitor how it plays into things
also in regards to old railways being added , the cutscenes for unlocking new railways is . Still in the story .
9:12 Esgoo sleeping tight knowing he had a near perfect take. And continued to the whole stream
Glory to limbus company
Glory to project moon
Glory to ESGOO
A comment about the Most Favorite/Least Favorite poll: I don't think "hate" really fits the perspective of the Least Favorites, since you could like all of the Sinners or at least don't dislike them (though, abstaining is an option). That said, regarding Gregor being the fifth Least Favorite, what you said about Outis fans being obnoxious to the point of people disliking her could also apply to Gregor since he gets memed a lot.
How dare you rats do this to poor Sinclair, he's such a good boy!
Its all a conspiracy, they fear his power
I feel like Sinclair is sadly just a bit underutilized. Hope he gets the rodion treatment in an intervallo soonish
@@jimmyjenkins1907ther fear when he will get naked and soar the skies like a dragon
@@donvitopatata Problem is, demian already cucked him out of having a story arc at all (bastard that he is). Best case is that Sinclair KILLS demian because he already stole the biggest challenge from him.
too many overpowered IDs
Need more Gregor content in Limbus
The only census I've participated with joy
Now imagine the census if it was done AFTER WH Heathcliff
Just wait till honglu's canto its gonna be wild
Whoever in that stream said Ryoshu is just violence is entirely wrong atp, like bro they are pushing the obvious signs so foreward it's insane people won't pick up on it.
Anyways as for why Nelly is above anyone she's an understandable and neat character, like imagine seeing into every single mirror world (Debatably probably lied to by Hermann as well) and seeing that in every single world your life is ruined, stolen from you, I'd betray everyone I knew if that was the case too, and then below her on the list was Guldo and Effie so like
The Samjo pool dive gif that’s been circulating is relevant to this video now :)
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The Baba Yaga fight sucks because we didn't actually *fight* it, Rodya chose to ran away like she runs away from her problems.
I'm hoping we get a proper Baba Yaga fight alongside proper development for Rodya too.
Walpurgis is comming.....esgoo.....("dies in wasted all materials on erlking")
i was on the livestream and i still can't beileve that people hate sinclair
I honestly agree on the nerf-buff thing. I played TF2 in its heyday, I feel like nerfs or nerfing as a balance ideology just takes away good and/or interesting ways to play. Instead of nerfs to options that are already good, make other less good options better with buffs. People will deviate if only to try and do something new.
I feel like limbus has a good way to nerf, that doesnt exist in tf2. Nerfs by circumstances can be great. RHeath will lose relevance with longer battles being the norm, however it opens the new strategy of speedrunning Quick Suppression and then dying on purpose. It is by all means... a nerf, but it opens new avenues of usage and finally gives him an actual niche
Yeah I left a comment on the census that I do not like Faust. And then of course I did the event and I’m like “wow okay, they actually did something really interesting here that’s way better.”
Also if they screw up canto 7 and it is not the best thing to ever be created for my little blood-fiend I will rend the sky in twain and bring forth the fire and brimstone that awaits us all in an eternal void, where the gacha pulls are worse and the free lunacy is 20. Per month.
I dunno, my personal stance is Charge is best; I hate managing Tremor and Poise is just..... oh wow. Crit for big number. I have numbers go BRRR in other games. Now if we could get something new with Burn and Rupture.
unfortunately at the time of the poll, i had not read all the books only missing out on wuthering heights so i was unable to be part of those proud original 136. Since then however i have joined their ranks and i regret everything.
V sad my brother's mini essay about The Stranger didn't get mentioned but alas, it wasn't as funny as ranting about tomatoes.
Also, while Hong Lu is my favorite sinner, I am not affiliated with that hong lu fan guy
This pretty cool. thanks for making this!
28:50
I want railways back because of Content + Story for NEW PLAYERS
They get all this Story part talking about it but they get the HARDEST Version, WTF!?
Mirror dungeon kinda softens this issue by having normal level you up, but still, cant do hard until catching up to story.
I CANT Imagine new players 1-2 years in trying any of both content with a level cap around 60-70
hello, esgoo! kindest regards!
i recently have come to the realization of your dislike for tomatoes. unfortunately, i can't accept this. tomatoes can be used for many delicious meals. have you ever heard of a bit, esgoo? i really like bits. they remind me of the days before the accident, esgoo. when i used to eat bits with her, before the accident. i miss her every day, esgoo. tomatoes are one of the best foods out there, and i feel i've been betrayed by your dislike of tomatoes. what say you, esgoo? what say you about tomatoes? that they're the worst food ever? of course you'd say that. you don't know how much she meant to me. i also like delicious pasta, in which you use tomato sauce. mm, yummy tomato sauce. yum. mm, delicious. i like ketchup with my fries. you probably like tomato sauce and ketchup, don't you? so you aren't truly set in your "tomato hating grindset". i see. well, perhaps you should rethink your ways and give tomatoes another try. perhaps they'll also remind you of days before the accident, esgoo. please think about it. i know you're better than hating tomatoes, esgoo. i miss her, esgoo.
i FUCKING BELIEVE
that Shi will be BOOSTED up into the charts during Ryoshu's canto. Shi=4=death(in Japanese)=Ryoshu
SHI WILL BE REVIVED, KIM JI HOON DIDNT FORGET
unjustified rupture hate
Seven roll association
I LOVE ONE SIDE!!!
I'm sorry but Rupture sucks ass, Sinking is literally the better Rupture with better IDs
@@zephyrprime8 sloemn lament yi sang will be the saviour of rupture trust
@@Bla_bla_bla939 One ego is NOT saving Rupture at this point 😭
this video doesn't even compare to the madness esgoo inflicted us at the livestream
16:05 We need ESGOO sing every song in Limbus company!!!
6:20 Meursault is by far my favorite sinner. He's reliable to a fault, and it's played for the kind of dry humor that I adore. Him utilizing his Ego on Erlking was so creative and cool, and the intruige of him saying he used to go clubbing? I am just so fascinated by what they're gonna do for his Canto.
I do also relate to him heavily as an autistic person, since he explains he used to be far more expressive and share his thoughts openly and the way he behaves now is very similar to how I masked my behavior. So seeing him show proactive behavior instead of purely reactive is really touching to me.
I want to see him unburdened by the chairs that others have placed on him.
I love mersault, shame he has the worst good/bad ids ratio
If only other some of the other characters got this treatment too
@@madlKmT What treatment?
@@Our_Remedya buildup of character narrative throughout the story instead of one big lore dump that doesn't get touched ever again for the next year or two.
The midnight release, for the turbulent midnights of Wuthering Heights
It's kinda sad that you aren't that interested in Crime and Punishment. It has nothing to do with Rodion, just like most of the books, hers is more "Gambler" but if we talk general theme, Ishmael is honestly more suited to be under Dostoevsky's wing, imo. He is like an Ahab of literature. When he writes about obsessed and/or mad people, which he does a lot, you can't help but get swept up by his writing and get a little possesed (get it) yourself. Very distortion friendly, Highly recommended.
Are we, by any chance, getting the actual responses to browse through? I want to read the "Sleeping with Sinners (family friendly)" list from 56:16 in full.
Branch of knowledge is highest single skill inliction for rupture potency in the game
Being forced into it might suck but its in no way bad
The passive is awful though. If you didn't have it then it would be good
@@bestaround3323skill issue
Using it means you are damning your sp economy, very bad if you use dawnclair
Seven assoc. Heathcliff S1:
Watched this on stream, going to watch it again!!
Before i even watch the video I'll just say I'm so sad i didnt do the darn Census because i forgor multipe times
the person at 56:44 is so unfathomably real for that
i'm just happy for my boy yi sang
i've that canto 2 reminds me a lot of the second singularity of FGO where you had a pretty interesting starting act with the first chapter of the story but chapter two only gets less interesting in retrospective.
Canto 2 is significantly better writed than Septem but it's still lack luster in their respective games
Septem is still probably worse than Canto II because it suffers from the problem a lot of older gacha games did at launch where story-only nodes didn't exist yet (and maybe the devs weren't sure how invested people would be in the storytelling?) so every node needed to force some kind of battle - the infamous "We've got wyverns!" meme. Granblue Fantasy also kind of suffers this, and probably more gacha games (or even games in general) that aren't on my radar. Canto II still definitely has too many filler battles and one of the more tedious story dungeons (no, I don't want to "get beat hurtily", by which I mean "wait for the Surgery gimmick to go away") but it's still an alright story chapter... but only alright, and PM had already set an extremely high standard for storytelling by this point and would only raise it further in the future.
18:58 I really enjoyed the miracle20, the boss was fun and it was neat temporarely being limited on characters.
Getting the EX objective on the stage where you only have Heath and Don was kinda painful though. The only Heathcliff ID I had was rabbit and he would run out of ammo by the second wave, so I had to wait until I got Multicrack
@@Puffman728 rng issue
Kim deserved at least 5 place because he's the chaddest of the chads he distorted and instead of going insane like Phillip he went on a fucking rampage killing everyone and then had the best themed id (blade lineage meursault the goat)
Canto 2 is a great canto, the problem is it's compeating with all the other cantos
Im fairly certain I'm the Rosesault favorite ID enjoyer. He's been on my go to Tremor team since his release with Rodion, back on the old days where I refused to sub in Regret Faust for him and Zwei Sinclair. The good ol days of Limbus. I'll be picking him next census for sure, should I not be dead. My boyfriend bullied me in call about that when we watched this together.
Focusing on the railway subject, make it weekly, they either rotate or come up at random each week, you have missions, it's win win, more engagement and more content for us
5:10 Bro just described my friend who is IN LOVE with Outis
thank you mr estonian goo
Bringing back previous RRs would also fix the narrative dissonance where it's pseudo-explained in a mini-section between chapters and references, what, the 2nd iteration?
The problem with rupture is count.
I like Rupture but atm besides a relatively strict team, rupture just feels like bonus damage.
I wonder if Sloshmel would be more loved if it was 5 rupture count instead of just 5 torture?
I want more lccb or lcaa crew
I love Canto 1 for Lobotomy Corporation vibe and overall depressed story. Also feel sorry for LCB Gregor but I chose LCB Outis
I said it before and I shall say it again.
DON BROS CAN'T STOP WINNING 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥
About the Sinner's Book Of Origin (IYKYK)
Are there fanmade Sinners out there?
Any ideas?
Mine?
"Your suggestions are noted, dear nighttime muggers. As for MY suggestion...
*Y' c'ld... HIDE!"*
I think The Great Gatsby would be an awesome book for a sinner, but Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde would be pretty great too
I don't know for the lore part... for me BLMeursault have the more lore.
Nclair made us learn only that multiple words exist... yeaaaah... and dawn office sinclair made us hear a part of the discution with Carmen... but nothing incredible.
lobcorp outis is interesting but we still don't know anything about her journey, and if we have read wonderlab we already knew abnormality speak to the employe to make pact.
BLmeursault made us learn almost a book of lore about the corp! the political power, the way of life, the entire story of Kim that we had no idea even with his book in LOR... it's the most we learned ever of an uptight.
I read wuthering heights, metamorphosis, and the stranger (meursalt) in school, and yes I’m American
I read hell screen, the Odessy, and The wings in my own time, the rest I’m too lazy to read (some of them are so fucking long)
32:16 I really dont buy that it's recency bias. Like that is a small part of this. Because you cant honestly tell me In Hell We Live, Lament is EVER hitting anywhere close to as hard as Compass' climax when she throws the harpoon at the heart. Or that Fly My Wings makes you feel as heartbroken as Through Patches of Violet finally reaching the duet where they realize they were always held dearly in the hearts of the other?
But that has more to do with the Cantos than with the Mili Music, no?
I can listen to Hell We Live, Lament on my playlist while jogging or going to somewhere than Compass, so I put them above in best Mili Song, because the Song can sustain itself
Hong Lu doesn't deserve the hate. Just wait for his canto, haters.
To the right of this video in my feed was a Katana Zero OST video so you can imagine my surprise and confusion when I click on this one to immediately hear Katana Zero OST
....Good choice, really
It's actually a bit funny for me looking over the book related statistics because I realized when you said americans generally read the odyssey as part of their education, I realized that yeah, I had actually read it a bit back in high school, and just completely forgot about it when I was filling out the form myself. Not sure if I would actually still count that as actually reading it, as for my experience with it was just going over the basics of it mostly in school, but still, I guess I have read at least one of the stories.
as a La Sangre De Sancho hater, it is because of the numbers. low min roll, low max roll, useless on hit effect nine times out of ten, same for the passive. i feel bad every time i use it, because i know how much more it could do. Warp express did knock it up a few places in my estimation though, so that's nice.
But it heals
@@bestaround3323 most content healing isn't actually that beneficial, fights are fairly short and death means very little with chain battles, so you really only particularly want healing on a ramp up id, but you'd rather said id be doing thier ramp up thing and not spend their turn using a low rolling ego. Especially with fluid sac/pursuance existing which more then take cares of any healing you could want anyway
@bestaround3323 like 10 or 15 health, and only on Don. Even Soup-clair heals closer to 20 on the whole team. Passive does nothing without bleed. Compare with fairy festival Ishmael, healing 8 or so on hit up to 7 times, with a passive with a pathetically easy activation requirement to trigger for more healing... and a damage bonus if you don't need to heal.
@@piscenicprodigy8816Soup literally can't clash, wingbeat is a walpurg HE ego, and is not on Don. It is a cheap 25 rolling ego that heals and inflicts bleed.
@bestaround3323 compare it to every other base EGO then. The only one that's worse is Branch of Knowledge, and only in the sanity department. It clashes 2 higher, and inflicts 12 rupture, much more useful that 8 bleed. Suddenly One Day is also a contender, but still clashes higher on heads and tails, and neither of these two demand UT4 to roll higher than a 23.
If you want to heal exactly Don, then use any of the other AOE healing EGO that exists on half the cast, most of them don't have a 5% chance to lose their clash and be wasted.
It's bad healing, it's terrible at clashing for an EGO, it's passive is bad, and you're *stuck with it* until she gets a new Zayin.
RODYABROS WE WILL BE SO BACK!!
46:54 Well,. Cheer--! oh of course you are here...
all of the cantos i look forward to most are right at the back end, but im taking that as a free pass to wrap up reading all those books before then tbh
Sorry but I absolutely despise the idea of missions for the railways. Personally, I find them difficult enough simply clearing them once, especially when trying to keep under the challenge tally. Having to do railway repeatedly would make the novelty go away fast and just make the experience tedious and annoying. I do think new repeatable content would be appreciated (especially for the resources needed for the exponentially rising costs.) I just would prefer if it was a mode made to be farmed and not a one-off event that was jury-rigged with a mission system I already dislike.
Ive read everything but Dream of the Red Chamber, because as you said, finding a readable copy is a pain, and finishing it is a chore.
And I read hundreds of books a year. Im no slouch. So I accuse that 1% of lying. Only like 9 of you actually accomplished that feat. The rest of you probably just looked up the synopsis on Wikipedia, or watched the films and counted those. Because out of the 13 books there, theres always going to be one that just isnt your vibe. Someone who loves Wuthering Heights probably wont find joy in The Wings, or 'The Stranger' and 'Metamorphosis' probably wont align well with those who enjoy Don Quixote. Etc etc. To succeed youd either have to be a nerd for literature, or have forced yourself to read through at least one book you disliked, just to know the lore of that sinner.
So, if you genuinely did read all of them, I'm impressed, but theres a lot of doubt that over a hundred of you did.
Okay, but the metamorphosis and Wuthering Heights are both fascinating reads.
@@bestaround3323 Oh yes. The books are great, but not all of them are for everyone, so saying you've read all of them is just as suspect as saying you enjoyed every single Refraction Railway.
There's going to be at least one you dislike, and it's unlikely you'd put yourself through all of them if given the choice.
I enjoy reading a lot, but being forced to read Don Quixote in school is one of the things that almost made me dislike reading as a whole.
I cant put in words how much i despise Don Quixote, amor de perdição and Iracema for these reasons.
I'm pretty much the opposite, aka I read Dream of the Red Chamber, but only Dante's Inferno specifically, The Odyssey and Don Quixote in addition, mostly because we had to in school. I found a copy of dotrc on tumblr (a Hong Lu fan posted a zip file with the David Hawkes version on there) and found it a surprisingly easy read in my case. I'm going to start reading Hell Screen and Faust soon too, since I also found pretty good copies of them at a local library and I'm debating whether to go all the way and just read all the sinner books or not. I might just pick them up as they interest me or if I want to theorycraft and need knowledge on specific things from a particular book, but for now, I guess I'll just see how far I can go
I used to read a lot, until I started associating this hobby with loneliness. its kind of hard to get back into it, so most of the sinners Books I read have been for school.
Another thing is language, I am not a native english speaker and some books... are hard. Wuthering Heights is a bit of a tough read already for me, and some books just... kind of dont exist in german.
Solemn Lament Yi Sang will save rupture trust