If you like this video, check out the MARSHALL vs. BLACKSTAR: th-cam.com/video/22ToVBZJGGM/w-d-xo.html. Full Time Stamp Index Here: 1:25 Jubilee Channels 2:10 Jubilee GAIN 2:24 Jubilee more GAIN 2:50 Jubilee control overview 3:15 Jubilee GAIN roll-up 3:57 Jubilee A Chord (reference) 4:07 JCM800 GAIN 4:30 Jubilee GAIN 4:57 JCM800 GAIN 5:20 Jubilee GAIN 5:40 Paul's Thoughts (discussion) 6:20 TK Jubilee GAIN 6:57 TK JCM 800 GAIN 7:30 more discussion (If you could only pick 1?) 7:48 TK Jubilee GAIN 8:20 Which is better for gigging? 8:45 Feature Comparison 9:04 TK Jubilee - Work the volume knob for clean / gain 9:58 TK JCM 800 - Work the volume knob for clean / gain 10:50 If you could only pick 1 (more discussion) 12:00 Leave your comments below. Which was your fav?
I had a Marshall Silver Jubilee 2525C & never could bond with it so I sold it. I bought a Randall RG1503212 & I like it so much better. Between these 2 Marshall amps, I’m liking the JCM better. Thanks for another cool video, TTK & Rock On! 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
JCM 800 is a one trick, yes a good trick but only one. Due to the SJ controls you can dial more tones with the gain input and lead master controls. I own the SJ mini head (renamed studio) and I also own a 100watt JCM 800 2210 I bought in the UK in 86. I play the SJ quite a bite more due to its better versatility.
How many people have made comments based on owning these amps? VS those who are just watching the video :) you have to be there man!!! you will be happy with either, I personally like the Silver Jubilee, thats the one I looked at and bought!! didn't want to look at anything else! you can drive yourself nuts if you want to compare everything! just find an amp that gives you that 'oh yeah' vibe to your ears! :) the Jubilee has a wonderful EQ section!! something really good happens as you turn those knobs!! :)
@@JosephCee The Jubilee is a lot more versatile. Having two master volumes helps getting great tone at low volume. The full sized models sound way better than the mini.
I own a Marshall 2525H Mini Silver Jubilee LTD edition in standard Marshall black tolex... Luckily I discovered this version existed before they were all sold out. No problems with matching any black cabs, and anyway I was never keen on the silver...
The biggest difference between the amps will be the speaker cabs. The Jubilee cab is loaded with Celestion G12 (probably M25s, cos that's what's in my Jubilee combo) and the JCM has Celestion V-type speakers. The G12 greenbacks are more throaty and full in the low and mid-range, whereas the v-types are brighter and more focused on the high mids. A better test would have been to run both heads through the same cab to compare them.
Jcm800 sounds better but only because Jubilee is not dialed in a right way. Jube has much more sensitive controls which actually do what they are supposed to do. Jcm800 controls have much narrower sweep and it's much easier to dial in. Jube is not for everyone, you need some time to make it sound good, but then you will be awarded with one of the best sounds Marshall ever made.
I love ya TK, but you got to get better equipment for recording. Room mic's, camera mics, whatever you're using is like watching a movie in standard definition while the rest of the world is in 4k UHD. Just some constructive criticism from a long time viewer and fan.
@@carterfest it absolutely does, unfortunately. Thank you for pointing this out. And, oddly enough, that was blended 2 microphones (shotgun to pick up the sounds at a distance). Very tough to do this sort of thing when (as you said), not in the 'lab'.
Ok, I just ordered the JCM and as bad as I thought I wanted a Jubilee, I feel like with enough tweaking and a tube screamer, you can get really close to the silver where you can't get a the silver to sound fuller... it will always be what it is. I'm sure its amazing but I'm very glad with the decision I went with!
Blaine Ludeman Jubilee is DEFINITELY darker. Ive had several of both amps over the years, various wattages, Marshalls and clones. in general I prefer the Jubilees because I can get the level of saturation without having to have the amp set really bright, the 800s can get pretty brash, especially the later version they made before going to the 900s. The really only drawback I find with the 2550 is the I have to use dedicated speaker cabs for them. Other Marshalls, Fender and Dumble clones I use/have used I could all run through the same cabinets. All the other amps sound equally good with Greenbacks or the Eminence EJ1250s I use, whereas the Jubilees I find that I have to run with Vintage 30s that have more treble (as opposed to the GB's flat EQ), or they can have trouble cutting through the mix. The other side of that however is that if you like using a multi-amp rig, they're perfect to combine with other amps for your overdrive tone. The darker nature, along with the deep saturation make them perfect for your foundation. So the Jubilee sits back in the mix, and you can run a Plexi/800/Tweed/etc over it to cut through the mix. When Bonamassa uses his multi amp rig for his more Rock shows, the Jubilee was the only amp he kept on all the time
I think the speakers that are used are a major part for that. The Jubilee has V30's and the 800 has Celestion V-Types in it. I've used V-types and V30's for recording and the V-Types are a lot darker sounding!
Blaine Ludeman It may actually be, the sound quality on the tablet that I watched this video on isn't that great (no headphones, just small crap speaker the tab). What I can tell you with 100% confidence and zero reservation is that between the Silver Jubilee and the JCM800, the Jubilee is going to be noticably darker/warmer. This is regardless of whether you're playing a 20W/50/100, combo or separate head and cabinet. Even using Vintage 30's and similar r speakers that are designed with an increased treble response matched with the Jubilee, and Greenbacks that are neutral voiced with the JCM, you will find the Jubilee darker. like I said, it's the reason I the Jubilee, but I know other players that didn't bond with it for this reason. They liked it at home or studio, but found it difficult to cut through the mix playing gigs. Granted with a couple of these players, I know they didn't really match their gear up properly, and in one case used a darker, more low end focused speakers which just increased the issue.
my little jubilee was harsh an no headroom, the sound was loud,but no warmth or fatness an the sound just stayed right there..i think first owner done something to mine or someone did, theres too many positive comments for it to sound this much like a 5 watt solid state....
I have this Jubilee head and love it. Its a fiddly amp and you can get a wide range of tones out of it. It does clean and crunch and has higher gain than the JCM800. You can also dial back the volume of a 50s wired LP and get it to clean up. I can get all the tones I need from the distortion channel just by altering the volume and tone knob on my guitar (LP or Tele. That said, I am going to add a JCM800 as well. In my mind its a totally different beast and I have use for those tones as well. Running a small project studios and I could use both these flavors. These amps live in the same Marshall neighborhood, but definitely at different addresses. If I had to pick one amp.... at this point I would go Silver Jubilee because I can get all the tones I am looking for from clean to crunch to high gain lead out of one amp and with no OD or distortion pedals. I add a touch of reverb and/or delay and I have all the tones I need. Also - different speakers in the cabs produce some different tone as well. Jubilee has some kind of modified V30 that is a great speaker. The JCM800 has a V type. These are similar but do produce different tone.
The JCM sounds much better. The silver Jubilee has a fizzy, grainy sound. Could it be that the V30 speakers make such a difference? The test should be done with the same cabin
I have the Jubilee! it's silly saying one is better? they are in the same zone or whatever you call it!! if you like Slash tones! then SJ will get you there more
Owned and gigged a JCM 800. The 800 was good to give me that big Marshall kick. But it was always a JCM 800. However, I tried a Jubilee and got that huge Marshall sound but could create one that was mine. the Jubilee is way more versatile and was designed to offer that. I find with my Jubilee I can create something special and personal tone wise. Whereas the 800 does one awesome thing only - sound like a JCM 800. 👍🏼
My Jubilee does not sound like this at all. Probably because I keep the treble and presence below 12 o'clock. I also run mine through a 1960ax cab that has greenbacks.
The key is to keep the presence and treble below 12:00 and the input gain around 13:00. Also, the bass can be cranked up to 3:00 without being flabby or muddy. Mids sound the best around 1:30. Master volume needs to be at least at 2:00.
The original Jubilees were designed with the (then new) V30s in mind. They work best with those speakers, at least from my experience. I have an original 1987 2555 head, 87 2554 combo, 88 2554 (black) and a 2555X and all, I mean all of them sound best with V30s. By the way, what most people don't know is that the Jubilee has probably the best clean channel ever in a marshall as well... They just think of them as the "ultimate lead amps".
@@nikolaraguz3555 They are essentially the same and both sound great. Some may argue that the original's Drake transformers and choke (in the 2555, the 2554 did not have a choke) result in better sound but in my opinion the differences are not that great. And what I greatly appreciate in the new 2555X is the bias external test points and trimmers plus you can experiment with many different power tubes instantly. This is impossible in the originals without modding them.
I'd have to vote for the Jubilee. I had a JCM800 2x12 combo years ago & it was good, but you basically have one sound beside rolling off your guitar volume. I traded it off for a Carvin X100B and a couple Peavey 4x12's with Celestions. Jubilee is more versatile and can do the JCM800 sound.
Nice demo, however, to be complete you will need to swap cabs also with each head. The speakers are different and will yield different results. I would love to hear the differences. Thanks.
They should have the logos the same on all three. The jubilee is bigger than the other 2. I like the way both look but just go with one Marshall. Now to the sound. Judging from this video and I’m assuming camera audio, the 800 wins. But in the room it sounds like it was much closer. Gotta try em out for yourself like all amps. But I’m very excited for these three amp mars is putting out. Good to see them getting it right again.
The JCM 800 is more present and aggressive for me, the jubilee is more set back, too dark, it looks more like an orange amp .... The JCM 800 is + the MARSHALL spirit !
I bought the JCM 800 Studio the very first day of Winter NAMM. It lasted three days and I returned it for the Silver Jubilee. I actually did not think the 800 sounded good. It was so dark and lifeless. Maybe I just got a bad one. But the Jubilee is the exact opposite. It just screams and so much more versatility.
May i ask you opinion? I have the Mini Jub keep thinking about the Studio Classic as everyone says it's brighter. However, with the Vintage 30's the M.J sounded great with my band. What is the biggest differences beteen both? I hear the Studio has less gain, less thump? Thanks
@@guitarexpert2245 For one...the Classic is a single channel so you have less versatility. And like I said the one I got just seemed lifeless. What I did a few months ago was put an MXR 10 Band EQ in front of it. Totally opened up the amp in my opinion. I am not saying the Classic is a bad amp I am just saying it wasn't what I was looking for. The Jube to me has that Marshall growl that people love and recognize. Although I am kicking around the idea of getting the Studio Vintage. But I think I am going to wait to see if Marshall releases anything new for this year. But yes...to me the Jube is a much better amp and am so glad I sent back the 800 for it.
The Jubilee is very sensitive on settings! you just have to boost the mids a bit and it changes!!! you can go from scoop to big mid blues!!! you have to set it right for the right tones :) and the guitar also matters!! I have three electric guitars, Les Paul, Strat and Tele! you set them all different
And the fact is there’s probably not a lot of differences in circuits between both amps. That’s where I find it kind of sad for brands such Fender, Marshall, Orange and Vox to not come with an Amp that would include the different circuits you can select just like we can do on Black Widow. Bring me a 25 watts Studio Amp Head (we can switch down to 5 and 0.5 Watts) with all top 10 or 12 amp circuits (Fender Bassman ‘59, Fender Blackface ‘65 Twin, Vox AC15 EF86, AC30, Orange, Marshall JTM45, Superlead Plexi, JCM 800, SLO 100, Diezel VH4 ch3), and I’m good! Even if it would cost twice what the Marshall Studio goes for... you wouldn’t need to buy 10 of them to get all the tones.
Phil Smith www.synergyamps.com is sorta on that path. At the moment I think their non-module products are about 3x or 4x more expensive than they should be, _especially_ since they seem to think there’s a point to having a chassis that can only hold one module, but maybe they’ll figure out something.
OtherTheDave lol... sorry but no! Synergy is an old ‘80s concept that is completely outdated today! And they’re way overpriced in comparison to products such Black Widow MGP-1A or even Joyo Dual-Klonz.
Phil Smith Well I did say “sorta”, and I certainly agree on the overpriced part. Why it outdated? All they’re really doing is putting the preamp circuit on a different PCB than the power amp circuit, which, IMHO is a good idea anyway. It’ll make it easier for amp techs to isolate problems and replacement boards can be cheaper since each board will have fewer components.
OtherTheDave the whole concept is fully outdated, because having slot cards you have to remove and insert in chassis is a complete dumb idea today when we see the technologies we have now. When you know that between two amps, sometimes it’s only a couple of resistors and capacitors with different values that will change the tone and make a “different amp model” it’s fully outdated to have dedicated pcb for that. Also, with relays, it’s better to have system such Black Widow or Dual-Klonz that will include all necessary components and use relays to change the circuits to the appropriate topology to match the Amp model and therefore have a true recreation on the fly. No additional modules you have to remove and insert, just a press of a button to get it. And if the system is well designed (such the MGP FROM Black Widow), it will cover like 250+ Models, which is pretty much anything you need because all amps are nothing more than a recreation or variations of the major amps since the ‘50s. So you can cover all tones without the need of big fridge chassis to get all modules, you don’t need to spend thousands of dollars into more modules to find the right tones or spend all your time removing and inserting new modules. Now you can just press a button to change circuit topology and have the model you need... if it’s not the one you need, you press another button and you can try the next one. Or you can even have some recall on stage or studio, etc... all that in the size of a 2U rack or a single head amp... THAT is a modern take on the multi path multi circuits system... nothing like the outdated Synergy that was a good idea... back in the ‘80s when we didn’t knew any better. Today it’s just a crappy concept. The designers should start to look forward.
Hmmm....there’s something just so....”rock ‘n roll” may be the right term....about what the JCM 800 is doing that I’m digging. The Silver Jube is no slouch, though.
It is a shame in this vid that they did most of the comparison on the lead tone. The Jubilee has huge versitality. I love the rythem clip setting for example. Jubilee gets my vote.
That jcm 800 it's just all up in your face gnarly awesome! The silver jubilee much warmer and smoother - too much imo. I might even take the Black Star in your other video over the silver jubilee. But none of them beat that jcm 800!
The whole video on my PC driven 20W Logitech speakers sounds like it was recorded in a giant cardboard box !!... but to choose one based on what I did hear in this video I'd take the studio...
Marcel van der Linden odd midrange honk to it all, zero low end, a $99 shure iPad mic has great low end these days..it’s how he played....sounds.. un, not your best ton,tone king. like to hear u remix this but I can hear more low end when tone king played,and the other dude sounded more cardboardy
The cabinets have completely different speakers. V type in JCM 800, Vintage 30's in silver jubilee. plus nothing is mic up. Terrible . Who knows how he has that Silver Jubilee EQ its so sensitive. No info on that.
Have the Silver Jubilee Mini, Played the Studio Classic. Jubilee is punchier, has so may different tones, and a foot switch for sparkly cleans. Studio Classic sounds cheap. Just my opinion. This video doesn't do any justice.
i never seen a strat,its same old slashing muddy fizzy, fuzzy tones,you wont hear bad companty or foreighner and other marshall users sound this fizzy etc....
I have the Silver Jubilee, amazing tone plus foot switchable channels and I love the large logo! A clear winner for me.
If you like this video, check out the MARSHALL vs. BLACKSTAR: th-cam.com/video/22ToVBZJGGM/w-d-xo.html.
Full Time Stamp Index Here:
1:25 Jubilee Channels
2:10 Jubilee GAIN
2:24 Jubilee more GAIN
2:50 Jubilee control overview
3:15 Jubilee GAIN roll-up
3:57 Jubilee A Chord (reference)
4:07 JCM800 GAIN
4:30 Jubilee GAIN
4:57 JCM800 GAIN
5:20 Jubilee GAIN
5:40 Paul's Thoughts (discussion)
6:20 TK Jubilee GAIN
6:57 TK JCM 800 GAIN
7:30 more discussion (If you could only pick 1?)
7:48 TK Jubilee GAIN
8:20 Which is better for gigging?
8:45 Feature Comparison
9:04 TK Jubilee - Work the volume knob for clean / gain
9:58 TK JCM 800 - Work the volume knob for clean / gain
10:50 If you could only pick 1 (more discussion)
12:00 Leave your comments below. Which was your fav?
Loved this comparison. The Silver Jubilee sounded a little fizzy but great overall. Wish I could get both but I’m leaning towards the JCM 800.
i like the jubile as a base, bright and punchy, probably add a drive or higher gain pickups and get into semi brutal territory.
Chumlee looks like he's idolizing the Tone King. Nodding in appreciation as the great man plays like Ace on a terrible night.
I had a Marshall Silver Jubilee 2525C & never could bond with it so I sold it. I bought a Randall RG1503212 & I like it so much better.
Between these 2 Marshall amps, I’m liking the JCM better.
Thanks for another cool video, TTK & Rock On! 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
The JCM all the way . I have a vintage JCM 800 50 watt head and the new 20 watt sounds just like it
Philip Cockram i also have a mid 80s JCM800 I was thinking the same thing
JCM 800 is a one trick, yes a good trick but only one. Due to the SJ controls you can dial more tones with the gain input and lead master controls. I own the SJ mini head (renamed studio) and I also own a 100watt JCM 800 2210 I bought in the UK in 86. I play the SJ quite a bite more due to its better versatility.
How many people have made comments based on owning these amps? VS those who are just watching the video :) you have to be there man!!! you will be happy with either, I personally like the Silver Jubilee, thats the one I looked at and bought!! didn't want to look at anything else! you can drive yourself nuts if you want to compare everything! just find an amp that gives you that 'oh yeah' vibe to your ears! :) the Jubilee has a wonderful EQ section!! something really good happens as you turn those knobs!! :)
They both sound good but the Jubilee wins for me because it sounds more Metal.
Really? They both sound brutal to me. Im on the fence of which one I want for (black) metal and I already own the matching 2x12 cab for the JCM lol.
@@JosephCee The Jubilee is a lot more versatile. Having two master volumes helps getting great tone at low volume. The full sized models sound way better than the mini.
@@JosephCee Quarthon and Euronymous used JCM800s so you are in good company.
Chumleeeee!
Your chops are gettin better!!
I own a Marshall 2525H Mini Silver Jubilee LTD edition in standard Marshall black tolex...
Luckily I discovered this version existed before they were all sold out.
No problems with matching any black cabs, and anyway I was never keen on the silver...
Did you guys not run them through the same cab/speaker combination ? WTH
The biggest difference between the amps will be the speaker cabs. The Jubilee cab is loaded with Celestion G12 (probably M25s, cos that's what's in my Jubilee combo) and the JCM has Celestion V-type speakers. The G12 greenbacks are more throaty and full in the low and mid-range, whereas the v-types are brighter and more focused on the high mids. A better test would have been to run both heads through the same cab to compare them.
The Homme Damnation I agree. Both should have been played through the jubilee cab to get the best comparison
Jcm800 sounds better but only because Jubilee is not dialed in a right way. Jube has much more sensitive controls which actually do what they are supposed to do. Jcm800 controls have much narrower sweep and it's much easier to dial in. Jube is not for everyone, you need some time to make it sound good, but then you will be awarded with one of the best sounds Marshall ever made.
Nikola Raguž Truth 🎸🎸🎼🎼👍
Jubilee is mint when gain is between 4-6… it brightens and tightens up perfect in that zone
Tough choice on this one, they both sound great!! Cheers man!!
that Jubilee was so much better to me.. all the way!
I love ya TK, but you got to get better equipment for recording. Room mic's, camera mics, whatever you're using is like watching a movie in standard definition while the rest of the world is in 4k UHD. Just some constructive criticism from a long time viewer and fan.
Filming on site versus back at the lab probably presented some logistical challenges.
@@carterfest it absolutely does, unfortunately. Thank you for pointing this out. And, oddly enough, that was blended 2 microphones (shotgun to pick up the sounds at a distance). Very tough to do this sort of thing when (as you said), not in the 'lab'.
And not ALL of us HAVE the data limits/speed to watch in 4K either! LOL!
(Kinda pointless for what is essentially AUDIOcentric!) LOL
the audio sucks
DMSProduktions his point was that he should mic the cabs.
Ok, I just ordered the JCM and as bad as I thought I wanted a Jubilee, I feel like with enough tweaking and a tube screamer, you can get really close to the silver where you can't get a the silver to sound fuller... it will always be what it is. I'm sure its amazing but I'm very glad with the decision I went with!
Jorgie WTF Yeah, the SJ might have more built in options, but the JCM’s options sound better IMHO.
Anyone else feel overwhelmed by the amount of guitar gear they want 😑😑
it's funny .. I heard the exact opposite where the Jubille sounded brighter and the 800 was darker .. guess I should have been in the room
Same here!
Blaine Ludeman Jubilee is DEFINITELY darker. Ive had several of both amps over the years, various wattages, Marshalls and clones. in general I prefer the Jubilees because I can get the level of saturation without having to have the amp set really bright, the 800s can get pretty brash, especially the later version they made before going to the 900s.
The really only drawback I find with the 2550 is the I have to use dedicated speaker cabs for them. Other Marshalls, Fender and Dumble clones I use/have used I could all run through the same cabinets. All the other amps sound equally good with Greenbacks or the Eminence EJ1250s I use, whereas the Jubilees I find that I have to run with Vintage 30s that have more treble (as opposed to the GB's flat EQ), or they can have trouble cutting through the mix. The other side of that however is that if you like using a multi-amp rig, they're perfect to combine with other amps for your overdrive tone. The darker nature, along with the deep saturation make them perfect for your foundation. So the Jubilee sits back in the mix, and you can run a Plexi/800/Tweed/etc over it to cut through the mix. When Bonamassa uses his multi amp rig for his more Rock shows, the Jubilee was the only amp he kept on all the time
I think the speakers that are used are a major part for that. The Jubilee has V30's and the 800 has Celestion V-Types in it. I've used V-types and V30's for recording and the V-Types are a lot darker sounding!
Blaine Ludeman It may actually be, the sound quality on the tablet that I watched this video on isn't that great (no headphones, just small crap speaker the tab). What I can tell you with 100% confidence and zero reservation is that between the Silver Jubilee and the JCM800, the Jubilee is going to be noticably darker/warmer. This is regardless of whether you're playing a 20W/50/100, combo or separate head and cabinet. Even using Vintage 30's and similar r speakers that are designed with an increased treble response matched with the Jubilee, and Greenbacks that are neutral voiced with the JCM, you will find the Jubilee darker.
like I said, it's the reason I the Jubilee, but I know other players that didn't bond with it for this reason. They liked it at home or studio, but found it difficult to cut through the mix playing gigs. Granted with a couple of these players, I know they didn't really match their gear up properly, and in one case used a darker, more low end focused speakers which just increased the issue.
@@ronnierazor4302 that makes a big difference speaker choice
my little jubilee was harsh an no headroom, the sound was loud,but no warmth or fatness an the sound just stayed right there..i think first owner done something to mine or someone did, theres too many positive comments for it to sound this much like a 5 watt solid state....
I have this Jubilee head and love it. Its a fiddly amp and you can get a wide range of tones out of it. It does clean and crunch and has higher gain than the JCM800. You can also dial back the volume of a 50s wired LP and get it to clean up. I can get all the tones I need from the distortion channel just by altering the volume and tone knob on my guitar (LP or Tele. That said, I am going to add a JCM800 as well. In my mind its a totally different beast and I have use for those tones as well. Running a small project studios and I could use both these flavors. These amps live in the same Marshall neighborhood, but definitely at different addresses. If I had to pick one amp.... at this point I would go Silver Jubilee because I can get all the tones I am looking for from clean to crunch to high gain lead out of one amp and with no OD or distortion pedals. I add a touch of reverb and/or delay and I have all the tones I need. Also - different speakers in the cabs produce some different tone as well. Jubilee has some kind of modified V30 that is a great speaker. The JCM800 has a V type. These are similar but do produce different tone.
for thrash metal which is better amp?
The JCM sounds much better. The silver Jubilee has a fizzy, grainy sound. Could it be that the V30 speakers make such a difference? The test should be done with the same cabin
I have the Jubilee! it's silly saying one is better? they are in the same zone or whatever you call it!! if you like Slash tones! then SJ will get you there more
I assume the jcm800 takes dirt pedals better than the jubilee?
Remember the jubilee was a hotrodded jcm800. The jcm sounds tighter because the jubilee has more spank. The jubilee is the amp slash uses.
Jonas Fields airbourne uses them
what works better for megadeth and slayer the jubilee or jcm800? I know they used JCM800 back in the day however how close is the jubilee?
Renaissance Man Very close but the jubilee is a hotrodded 800
Renaissance Man well KK has a signature 800 and Gary holt tours with silver jubilees haha. So in the end either one will be great for slayer
What’s the price difference
Owned and gigged a JCM 800. The 800 was good to give me that big Marshall kick. But it was always a JCM 800. However, I tried a Jubilee and got that huge Marshall sound but could create one that was mine. the Jubilee is way more versatile and was designed to offer that. I find with my Jubilee I can create something special and personal tone wise. Whereas the 800 does one awesome thing only - sound like a JCM 800. 👍🏼
Jubilee my love!
My Jubilee does not sound like this at all. Probably because I keep the treble and presence below 12 o'clock. I also run mine through a 1960ax cab that has greenbacks.
The key is to keep the presence and treble below 12:00 and the input gain around 13:00. Also, the bass can be cranked up to 3:00 without being flabby or muddy. Mids sound the best around 1:30. Master volume needs to be at least at 2:00.
The original Jubilees were designed with the (then new) V30s in mind. They work best with those speakers, at least from my experience. I have an original 1987 2555 head, 87 2554 combo, 88 2554 (black) and a 2555X and all, I mean all of them sound best with V30s. By the way, what most people don't know is that the Jubilee has probably the best clean channel ever in a marshall as well... They just think of them as the "ultimate lead amps".
@@Toys_in_the_Attic How do you compare originals to 2555x?
@@nikolaraguz3555 They are essentially the same and both sound great. Some may argue that the original's Drake transformers and choke (in the 2555, the 2554 did not have a choke) result in better sound but in my opinion the differences are not that great. And what I greatly appreciate in the new 2555X is the bias external test points and trimmers plus you can experiment with many different power tubes instantly. This is impossible in the originals without modding them.
@@Toys_in_the_Attic Actually I have 2555x but never tried the original. Some say they sound almost the same, and some say the original is much better.
The Jubliee sounds like it has the mids scooped out.
I'd have to vote for the Jubilee. I had a JCM800 2x12 combo years ago & it was good, but you basically have one sound beside rolling off your guitar volume. I traded it off for a Carvin X100B and a couple Peavey 4x12's with Celestions. Jubilee is more versatile and can do the JCM800 sound.
marshall = acdc..what more do you want lol
The Jubilee really can do the 800 sound and much more. You just need to know how to dial in the settings
I'd take the Silver Jubilee, but love them both
Nice demo, however, to be complete you will need to swap cabs also with each head. The speakers are different and will yield different results. I would love to hear the differences. Thanks.
They should have the logos the same on all three. The jubilee is bigger than the other 2. I like the way both look but just go with one Marshall. Now to the sound. Judging from this video and I’m assuming camera audio, the 800 wins. But in the room it sounds like it was much closer. Gotta try em out for yourself like all amps. But I’m very excited for these three amp mars is putting out. Good to see them getting it right again.
The JCM 800 is more present and aggressive for me, the jubilee is more set back, too dark, it looks more like an orange amp .... The JCM 800 is + the MARSHALL spirit !
I didn't like either one until TTK started playing.
I prefer the JCM here! But I will probably buy the SV20H in the end!
Seeing these side by side makes me wonder if they should both get the same signal from a stereo out...
YES! Pick up your trash and have fun. Just bought a 6hp Mercury for my boat. Thanks for the review Skinny.
I bought the JCM 800 Studio the very first day of Winter NAMM. It lasted three days and I returned it for the Silver Jubilee. I actually did not think the 800 sounded good. It was so dark and lifeless. Maybe I just got a bad one. But the Jubilee is the exact opposite. It just screams and so much more versatility.
May i ask you opinion? I have the Mini Jub keep thinking about the Studio Classic as everyone says it's brighter. However, with the Vintage 30's the M.J sounded great with my band. What is the biggest differences beteen both? I hear the Studio has less gain, less thump? Thanks
@@guitarexpert2245 For one...the Classic is a single channel so you have less versatility. And like I said the one I got just seemed lifeless. What I did a few months ago was put an MXR 10 Band EQ in front of it. Totally opened up the amp in my opinion. I am not saying the Classic is a bad amp I am just saying it wasn't what I was looking for. The Jube to me has that Marshall growl that people love and recognize. Although I am kicking around the idea of getting the Studio Vintage. But I think I am going to wait to see if Marshall releases anything new for this year. But yes...to me the Jube is a much better amp and am so glad I sent back the 800 for it.
@@lespaul1648 Cool, keep in mind the Studio Vintage is loud with no Master Volume. I'm sure it will sound great if you don't mind the volume.
@@guitarexpert2245 I understand that...and i turned it up but still though it was lifeless.
@@lespaul1648 I think there's a misunderstanding. I didn't say Studio Classic, I said SV20h, the one you want to get.
The Jubilee is very sensitive on settings! you just have to boost the mids a bit and it changes!!! you can go from scoop to big mid blues!!! you have to set it right for the right tones :) and the guitar also matters!! I have three electric guitars, Les Paul, Strat and Tele! you set them all different
And the fact is there’s probably not a lot of differences in circuits between both amps. That’s where I find it kind of sad for brands such Fender, Marshall, Orange and Vox to not come with an Amp that would include the different circuits you can select just like we can do on Black Widow.
Bring me a 25 watts Studio Amp Head (we can switch down to 5 and 0.5 Watts) with all top 10 or 12 amp circuits (Fender Bassman ‘59, Fender Blackface ‘65 Twin, Vox AC15 EF86, AC30, Orange, Marshall JTM45, Superlead Plexi, JCM 800, SLO 100, Diezel VH4 ch3), and I’m good! Even if it would cost twice what the Marshall Studio goes for... you wouldn’t need to buy 10 of them to get all the tones.
Phil Smith www.synergyamps.com is sorta on that path. At the moment I think their non-module products are about 3x or 4x more expensive than they should be, _especially_ since they seem to think there’s a point to having a chassis that can only hold one module, but maybe they’ll figure out something.
OtherTheDave lol... sorry but no! Synergy is an old ‘80s concept that is completely outdated today!
And they’re way overpriced in comparison to products such Black Widow MGP-1A or even Joyo Dual-Klonz.
Phil Smith Well I did say “sorta”, and I certainly agree on the overpriced part.
Why it outdated? All they’re really doing is putting the preamp circuit on a different PCB than the power amp circuit, which, IMHO is a good idea anyway. It’ll make it easier for amp techs to isolate problems and replacement boards can be cheaper since each board will have fewer components.
OtherTheDave the whole concept is fully outdated, because having slot cards you have to remove and insert in chassis is a complete dumb idea today when we see the technologies we have now. When you know that between two amps, sometimes it’s only a couple of resistors and capacitors with different values that will change the tone and make a “different amp model” it’s fully outdated to have dedicated pcb for that. Also, with relays, it’s better to have system such Black Widow or Dual-Klonz that will include all necessary components and use relays to change the circuits to the appropriate topology to match the Amp model and therefore have a true recreation on the fly. No additional modules you have to remove and insert, just a press of a button to get it. And if the system is well designed (such the MGP FROM Black Widow), it will cover like 250+ Models, which is pretty much anything you need because all amps are nothing more than a recreation or variations of the major amps since the ‘50s. So you can cover all tones without the need of big fridge chassis to get all modules, you don’t need to spend thousands of dollars into more modules to find the right tones or spend all your time removing and inserting new modules. Now you can just press a button to change circuit topology and have the model you need... if it’s not the one you need, you press another button and you can try the next one. Or you can even have some recall on stage or studio, etc... all that in the size of a 2U rack or a single head amp... THAT is a modern take on the multi path multi circuits system... nothing like the outdated Synergy that was a good idea... back in the ‘80s when we didn’t knew any better. Today it’s just a crappy concept. The designers should start to look forward.
Phil Smith I haven’t heard of the MGP, I’ll have to look into it, thanks.
JCM 800 is the one for me, still. I had a 100 wat head back in the 80s
On TH-cam the Jubilee sounds more fuzz like. The JCM sounds has more clarity. Get both and run at the same time.
I like both but it seems the Silver Jubilee may be more versatile.
Tk... I have searched and I cannot find the video u say u did on the blackstar vs marshall...can u direct me to it?
Which had the best headroom for playing clean?
Hello, welcome to our video - we've never seen a Silver Jubilee
sorry - that was salty.
Is that one of those ultra expensive Brazilia Bursts?
Hmmm....there’s something just so....”rock ‘n roll” may be the right term....about what the JCM 800 is doing that I’m digging. The Silver Jube is no slouch, though.
It is a shame in this vid that they did most of the comparison on the lead tone. The Jubilee has huge versitality. I love the rythem clip setting for example. Jubilee gets my vote.
Hi TK, this is not easy, but I still pick the 800
The only thing missing is the new plexi studio series for comparison :)
Oh yeah, Silver Jubilee has a nice fat tone, it's better.
What kind of guitar does this video show at the beginning?
bird inray strat ??
Its a PRS Silver Sky, John Mayer's new signature
That jcm 800 it's just all up in your face gnarly awesome! The silver jubilee much warmer and smoother - too much imo. I might even take the Black Star in your other video over the silver jubilee. But none of them beat that jcm 800!
TK get the set and a 59 LP. that would be the cherry on top...........
CHUCKS..A DC INSTITUTION....SHOUT OUT TO MITCH MITCHELL...MY MAN!!!
The whole video on my PC driven 20W Logitech speakers sounds like it was recorded in a giant cardboard box !!... but to choose one based on what I did hear in this video I'd take the studio...
Marcel van der Linden odd midrange honk to it all, zero low end, a $99 shure iPad mic has great low end these days..it’s how he played....sounds.. un, not your best ton,tone king. like to hear u remix this but I can hear more low end when tone king played,and the other dude sounded more cardboardy
Why is the logo so much smaller on the 800?
Just to be different
Since 1980 mashall sounds have completely disappeared
800 sounds tougher, less Buzz, bigger sound, muscular, rips the nails out of the wall!!!
The JCM sounds darker to me? You hear the exact opposite....hmmmm
The guitar tone of your opening track at the beginning of this vid is literally my dream metal guitar tone. What gear ???🙏🙏🙏🙏
The cabinets have completely different speakers. V type in JCM 800, Vintage 30's in silver jubilee. plus nothing is mic up. Terrible . Who knows how he has that Silver Jubilee EQ its so sensitive. No info on that.
The 800 is the better of the two IMO but each to their own !
JCM800 more balls !!! 2525H sound boxy and fizzy
SILVER JUBILEE!!!🤘🏻
mic them cabs boys
Is that the Slash Brazilian Dream LP?
The JCM 800 Sounds better to my ear TK , nice demo as always ! Rock on buddy !
Based on this audio, neither to be honest, they sounded fizzy and like tin cans
What amp is used in the opening music??
i own an original jubilee and that silver jubilee does not sound like an old silver jubilee.
The 800 for me. The 2 channel option on the Jubilee is cool but the clean channel breaks up way to soon. Not that usable IMO.
JUBILEE!!!!
Have the Silver Jubilee Mini, Played the Studio Classic. Jubilee is punchier, has so may different tones, and a foot switch for sparkly cleans. Studio Classic sounds cheap. Just my opinion. This video doesn't do any justice.
The Silver Jubilee takes it
800 all the way!
please tune the guitar prior to shooting demos please... please
800 all day!!! The jubilee too bright for me
It would've been a better demo if they had a decent guitar player.
i never seen a strat,its same old slashing muddy fizzy, fuzzy tones,you wont hear bad companty or foreighner and other marshall users sound this fizzy etc....
I prefer jcm800
All very nice. Give me a dirty clean. Dirty Sanchez clean.
Chumlee plays good.
Sounds like the Jubilee has that bee in the tin can sound...
JCM🤘
blend them.
The 800 hands down!!! Jubilee sounds like mud to me.
Jubilee all the way
The Jubilee sounds much better
800 wins The jubilee sounds like its in a tunnel or something. I can add my own drive. 800 is a better tone
TTK is for 'special' guitarists hahahha
Jubilee
"this is a tough one.." "I'm torn on this one.." Come on man!! Anyone can see that the Marshall sounds better :)
The 800 all the way!
To me, the Jubilee is fizzy. At least this video, and the other's I've seen, I've preferred the JCM 800 over the Jubilee.