Marshall Studio Vintage (SV20h) vs Marshall Silver Jubilee Mini (2525h)
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- Marshall Studio Vintage (SV20h) vs Marshall Silver Jubilee Mini (2525h) - Battle of the Marshalls!
In this video I pit two Marshalls against each other. One is the Studio Vintage, and the other is the Mini Silver Jubilee. The SV20 is of course the small version of a Plexi, while the other one isn't. Basically it's a JCM 800 type thing. Both are valve (or tube) heads, and go for roughly the same price, so it made sense to compare them.
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Finally,
A review without trying to tune a guitar like a bass ‼️
Lol!
Very true.Im bored too with the new guitarists.Its a guitar guys,the bass player will play the bass 😂
One of the most interesting things about a Plexi is the ability to jumper the two channels. I always have mine jumpered. If you want all one channel or the other you can adjust the channel vol knobs. Blending the two to taste is what's awesome about a Plexi. Also, with a single coil guitar and only jacking into one input (no jumper cable) you could jack into the bass channel instead. He's jacked into the treble channel. This would be good for a Les Paul or something with a humbucker. This 20w version is highly responsive to how you play and the settings of the dials on your guitar. Endless sonic possibilities!
For my money, the plexi walked all over the silver jubilee. Way more dynamic, transparent and just more alive.
I also preferred it.
Great demo, awesome playing----SV20 sounds absolutely amazing!!
Thanks!
Just a comparison I was looking for, thank you! But I don't think you'll see the light tonight!
Cool but kind of unfair to the Jube, it has a different tone stack than a plexi so setting the same as you would a plexi won't get you the same results.
SV20 sounds like an old Marshall, Jube sounds like a Jube. Different flavors, but if you want vintage Marshall tones - SV20 wins!
I've been watching a few of your videos recently and like them a lot. I was looking at the SV20 for awhile. After watching this video, I was sure I would prefer the SV20 and can confirm the Silver Jubilee is more dark sounding and can be fizzy. It can deliver Slash tones if you are after that but I find the SV20 the best sounding to me of all of the Studio lineup. I pull the trigger and swap my 2525C Mini Jubilee for a SV20C in a heartbeat after your video and I love it.
I sold the Jubilee to buy the Plexi, and happy I did. I got the Jubilee early, before the others came out. It was OK. The Plexi is spectacular.
The silver jubilee is just unbeatable. It’s got that extra color to the tone that the SV doesn’t, the SV just kinda sounds like a basic rock tone, silver jub transcends that
Hey Elmo, great video man!
Cheers!
Love the cross eye bit 😉
On this particular video the Plexi sounds better to me. But I own a Mini Jubilee. It is a KILLER sounding amp. I play mine with the gain low on 3... no fizziness . I do not engage the diodes . I use an excellent overdrive pedal with the overdrive also set relatively low at around 10:00 . It sounds as good as my 2204 but even better at lower volumes than my 2204. Don’t count the Jubilee out. Marshall got it right with this amp.
Yes! I don't understand the point of making a demo with all the knobs cranked -- especially the input gain on the Jubilee. Those controls on the Jubilee are all quite sensitive. A better approach is to take a little time to dial in the settings. Make it sound as good as it can be. And then do a proper demo.
Cool stuff :)
Power Chord Therapy You are absolutely correct. This amp has the most sensitive EQ of any amp I’ve ever played/owned. Way more sensitive than my 2204 and Friedman. Especially the Bass. On the Jubilee I have it set to about 8.5... I never have the Bass that high. Usually on 4 or 5 at the most on my other amps (I own 6). But on the Jubilee it sounds killer with the Bass up that high. It never gets flubby or muddy. Just a very excellent THUMP. Played through a proper 2x12 or 4x12 it sounds monstrous. In the best way.
I have the SV combo and just got the Jube combo and its awesome I think i'm more excited over the jube! Well it has a higher gain channel so i'm dumping my dsl40 now that I don't need plus the cleans and pushed is plexi like and its a beast! sounds just great with a Les Paul,Strat,Tele,EVH and loud as hell too!
@@kenaiello4851 Cool.
Thank you for this comparison. 2 very good Marshalls. My preference goes to the Studio Vintage 20. The mini Jubilee is more versatile, modern as you point out, but the SV 20 Plexi is more... Marshall ! I was also pleasantly surprised by the Origin 20 that comes as a real contender to those 2 pricewise. Your faces at 5:57 ... man: that tells it all :-))) Happy holidays Elmo and keep safe !
You too :)
Elmo, I need and advice. I'd like to buy both but what about the cabinet? I play at home and have no idea if I could use a 212 properly. Someone say that at home I can exploit better a 112. But sone friends say: better the sound of a 212 at low volume than the sound of 112 at higher volume. Can you help me?
SV all the way for me, the definition and harmonics are just outstanding! It also seems it makes you play differently, which I like better. Rock'n'roll essence inside ;-)
Yep, that truly is for me the classic Marshall tone.
you said it well. for versatality and my budget; I would do plexi with some type of drive or eq boost pedal.
Cheers :)
I used to have one of those little jubilees and they definitely sound better with the gain at around 7 or so. At 10 it’s too fizzy. Also a cool thing I figured out with the Ed was bass at 10 mid on 9 treb 9 and presence about 5. At least with my cab ( greenback) that’s how it sounded best.
Cool :)
Hi. Can you adjust so the leadchannel has more volum than the clean/crunch? More volum for soloing... (Jubilee)
Those reissues are probably some of the best work Marshall has done in years. They all sound good, matter of preference there, I believe that Jubilee has diodes doing the clipping in there like the original did, so if one is looking for a straight tube path it's the mini-Plexi for the win; my preference for sure. Not mentioned: that AKG C-414 is just a great freaking mic, can't be undersold in this, it is what conveys that sound best...
True. Marshall have done well on these amps. Also, you're right about the AKG :)
I use an A/B/Y pedal with my SV20. I can cover a lot of ground with it, whether LP or Strat.
Both sounds delicious!
Is the first clip with the jubilee clean with no pedals? Because it is very dirty. Is that what happens when u crank a marshall?
Yep.
this dude rocks
I like the tone of the plexi. When you push it there’s a less fizzy gain. More of a head room where the sustain is relying on your playing and head room than fizzy gain. Because your a good player and it’s shows what your fingers are actually doing. I would back if the gain on your pedal on the plexi. And maybe just micro boost 1db or 2 dB for leads. But to each their own. what do you think is better for your style ?
Definitely the Plexi.
very impressive. I can tell you've put the work in. I"m trying to decide between one of these 20 watt marshalls. Does that YJM pedal sound good with a gibson style as well, or is it voiced more for single coils? Thanks for posting.
I use it with my Ibanez Universes as well, and it sounds great. Thanks :)
I'm also trying to decide which sounds better. What's your take?
@@melexdy From what i've read they are both super loud for home use purposes so i'm going to something with an attenuator on it because i'm in an apartment now. A Carr Mercury V but i bet either one of these sound great. I'd probably go with the Jubilee if i were you. Seems like it has more usable range than the plexi style.
I pick the SV20 1959 super lead tones! Cheers
Hi there great video. Do you think you can get the edge of breakup tones at a reasonable volume for home use or do you need an attenuator? I am a classic rock guy so I don’t need all out gain. I have a vintage modern so I was thinking the studio vintage combo as an option.
It is still quite loud. You can stick a volume pot in the loop, which would help in addition to running it on lower power.
Great sounds! Next video, how do they sound together?
Cheers!
I have a mahogany strat,, welcome to the DARK SIDE, great combo with the Malmstien pedal and 2020 silver amp.
How is the 2061x over the SV20h ?
Digging your channel, This Guy. You rock, man! A guy needs a few amps, but I'm not sold on either of these. If it ain't a JCM800 for the same price then, Idk, it should come with a serving wench and free rounds for a week
Haha :D Cheers :)
Love the Plexi!!!!!
Me too :)
I like both but would pick the jube if I had to pick one. They have different flavors.
Killer playing
Thanks!
I was between the SV20H, SC20H and the Mini Jubilee. All the time the Vintage wins. Less gain but its so more BIG and punchy and less compressed. just a little more time and money and its gonna be mine
Gotta hate that artificial sounding fuzzy scratchy shit in the jubilee. Amazing how the plexi makes it disappear and fattens it up too. Clear winner here.
I have both combos there great, jube needs to be loud its excellent
I sold mine 2525C to get the SV20H, Have not regretted yet, both amazing amplifiers but Plexi is Plexi
I did the exact same and even though the 2525C is built better and has a usable effects loop, the SV20H just sounds way better to my ears.
Yeah, I prefer Plexi too.
Yep. I've got the SV20 too, and so far it's simply been plug straight in and play, with my Les Paul Custom.
Elmo's demos of the SV were a fine endorsement prior to getting my unit.
Awesome amps man, I know its a old video. But the Sv maybe has a microfonic tube by the squeal its making, besides it killer tones. Keep rocking man!
Cheers :)
Makes no sense really , just turn up the presence on the jubilee if its darker! Also it has a master volume which is a big difference.
amazing stunning beautiful playing ;)
Thanks!
What the hell, this is amazing!!!!
I have the sv20 with both cabinets. But what pedals do you use to make it sound that way? Or you have it connected directly?
I think it was the Fender Yngwie Malmsteen overdrive back then. These days it's the Strymon Riverside.
The one that has Marshall tones :)
I have the 2525H. I find cranking the input gain above about 7 can make the lower string notes fall apart a bit and flub out. The amp also seems to like having the bass control set higher than Plexis or JCM 800s. Cranking the mids and presence works, but not so much the treble. The amp likes a tube screamer best so far. It tightens it up for the percussive chug thing. Higher notes are a bit thin, but not as thin as many JCM 800s. The 5 watt mode is decent. Do not lose much tone at all. Just headroom.
I bought it because my Plexi replica is too old school sounding for for some stuff. Rather than having Jose or BE mods done, i decided to leave the Plexi as is, because I did not want to risk losing the sound it does so well. I figure the Silver Jube was just Marshall's take on the Jose mods anyway (diode clipping). Turns out I do not use the diode clipping. I get more than enough dirt from the amp and a TS808 (my Iommi booster goes nice with it too, but that thing goes nice with every amp I try it with). I have a gold DOD 250. Not as nice as the TS808 for tightening things up at least. I read that version of the DOD 250 has less high pass than most, so i might mod the input cap, so it does the YJM thing better.
I also have a 2525H. I've been using it with a TS808, and now I use a Boss overdrive (an old BOSS OS-2 that I put in overdrive mode). At this moment I lean more towards the BOSS, it seems to me that it fattens the sound without losing character.
Input gain on mini jube above 7 does not produce a well defined sound and adds a lot of bass. It's best if compare both amps with Jubilee input gain on 5 (and not use the pull rythm clip)
Great video! How does the Studio vintage compare to the Origin? Is it worth the price difference?
Depends on the sound you're after. The Origin is more vintage.
Elmo your playing is on another level man it sounds killer . How is the bottom on the mini plexi compared to your 50wattplexis ?
Thanks! Difficult to compare, since the volumes are different. Also, it's been quite a while since I sold the SV20, so I don't exactly remember. I kept the 50 watt Plexis.
Hello Elmo, Have you reviewed or compared the Marshall SC 20 of the 20W studio series???
If you like it I will have to purchase one to add to the family... Cheers...
Not the SC. Sorry :(
@@MrPolevaulter No need for apologies, I have the SV20H and love it from your recommendation...
I'm now thinking of purchasing the SC20H so I was asking if you had plans to Review it any time soon???
Cheers from Down Under...
Agreed on the SV20H being better. I've always heard Silver Jubilees had the best cleans of all Marshalls. This was not the case with this mini, and I also agree on it being darker. Fuck it! I'm building a SC20H JCM 800 ASAP from Rob Robinette's design. His amps are killer and shares all his schematics.
Plexi @11 for everything, everywhere!
:D
Marshall 20 watt Jubilee. The honey moon still isn't over update.
Just a deadly amp that sounds great in any mix. My settings of late are
presence 6 , Bass 9 3/4, Middle 10, Treble 5 1/4, Input gain 6 1/4. This
is great for cutting through a mix on TH-cam. I usually use a Hall of
Fame 2 reverb in the effects loop. A Wampler Ego compressor sounds good
and or a Wampler Tumnus can be added (front of amp). I always like a
reverb but it sounds great without a reverb when playing in a mix. I
mostly use a Stratocaster Professional with a humbucker in the bridge
position.
it slays the Friedman no doubt and Bogner.
Nice! Would love you to do a marshall mini amp bake off against the mesa mark v 25 and mini rectifier for comparison. Or maybe the mini marshall versus friedman runt and bogner atma?
Cheers! Sadly I've sold both of those to make room for other gear to review.
@@MrPolevaulter bummer well I would love both a mesa and marshall stack. That is what I am saving for unless Fractal sounds as good for the same price.
@@GuitarsAndSynths I'm actually thinking of selling my Axe-FX II. I only use it at home these days, and it seems like a bit too much for demoing purposes.
Studio vintage sounds sooooo damn gooood. I love it
Now the gain channel of the jubilee to the 20w JCM 800 :)
It's looking a bit unlikely, what with finances and all that.
@@MrPolevaulter What a perfectly understandable shame!
Awesome intro.
Cheers :)
SV20 is a must buy
Super amp.
what are the speakers in the cab ?!?
Celestion Greenbacks.
PLEXI IS THE KING !!!! BEST TEST ON TH-cam !!!!
Cheers!
@@MrPolevaulter ..the faces... too funny! Great playing and great review, thanks.
@@TheCount0212 Thanks :)
@@MrPolevaulter 👌
are these amps going to make me play like that, too?
:D
Plexi is life . 🎸❤️
Around the 4:50 mark you played a lick that sounded similar in style to Michael Casswell (R.I.P.) I really dig these smaller wattage heads, you get a lot out of them.
Yeah, they're great :)
The Silver Jubilee obviously has a lot more gain, but also sounds pretty buzzy as well!
The Plexi, while not as gainy, is loaded with character and a much more organic sound!
If I had both of them sitting in front of me, and could only choose one, it would be the Plexi everyday of the week and twice on Sunday!!!
That silver jubale sounds wicked why don't they make a bigger one can't find them any where when they first came out I had a friend who had a 100 watt full silver jubalee stack with a brand new white stray it sounded better than the small one
I don't know. I have seen a few second hand ones, but they cost quite a lot.
Sure wish we could have heard them cleaner.
GOD DAMN!!!
You are playing so damn hard and good so my speaker starts to smoke!!!!
Really nice review, hate you :P. Now I have to buy both of them!!!!! Gah!
Well done :D
Thumbs UP :))
TBH, $1,400.00 bucks is asking a lot from a 20W head, yeah? The Roland micro cube sounds a bit better than either of them even though the Vintage Studio really dishes out everything and more. I'm a minimalist
If you turn the gain down on the mini jubilee it becomes less dark and in fact very bright sounding, which personally i don't like. I have one.
The trick i've found with the Silver Jubilee is that you dont put the gain past 3 o clock. After 3 o clock it gets a mid hump (to my ears) which sort of muddies up the sound. Also highly recommend using the 2x12 "mini cab" they designed to go with the amp, its killer.
I liked them both and would have a hard time choosing. Fortunately or unfortunately I can't afford either so the matter's moot for this poor Aussie. I think that the SV would be my choice were I able to buy one. It has more of the "Old Marshall" bite/tone/character or what have you, that I do like and when you're on a good thing stick to it as the old saying goes. Thanks for the comparison of these two little gems from Marshall as we're all downsizing our rigs for stupid people who want to keep their hearing - why I ask? Just look at the great hearing aids that they have now, so don't worry about your hearing and play guitar at 180db all day I say. Maybe that's a bit too loud. Maybe.
Plexi sounded great with the od. It wins.
Uh, I will take a Dirty Shirley or JJ Jr. Nice demo.
Cheers :)
Plexi has THAT tone.
First of all: what mind blowing guitar playing skills. Subscribed to see and learn more. As for which one’s better: both cool really, but man, dat perfect MARSHALL plexi sound - nothing comes even close. Elmo, if you’re still reading these, do you think the SV20 can be “tamed” to still sound good at home volume (~. 80db)? With an FX loop volume pot, like in your other vid (JHS or similar) or sth like Fryette PS (nuclear option and cost :-))? Thx!
Thanks :)
you are on FIRE today!
Thanks :)
Great video Elmo! What mic do you use (if any) for your voice?
Thanks! I use a Sennheiser MKH 40.
Looks like more fun with the sv20 judging by the facial expressions
Man, the silver Jubilee is, to me, much better and cleaner, especially without the YJM overdrive. To bad the Jubilee doesn't have the features and the price of a Peavey Classic head, then I would die a happy man. Greating playin' by the way. Greetings from Portugal.
Thanks Jorge :)
I have the Jubilee. I like it. It takes a while to experiment with the settings to get the sound you want. I find that the Presence and Treble should be turned down to 2. Bass and Mid at about 6. Input gain I set to 7 and it sounds great on both channels. What I most like is it sounds better to me without a drive pedal. I'm using a Hall of Fame 2 Reverb through the effects loop. All delays and reverb must go through the effects loop.
It has a lot of tone possibilities. I'm sure I will find many more sounds later.
Cool :)
all amps take time to dial in :-)
@@GuitarsAndSynths It isn't a Plexi. So if you expect it to behave like a Plexi you might be disappointed. I find a good sound on it and then a week or so later I dial in something different. Not like a Plexi where you can turn everything up to 10 and it sounds great.
I use a drive pedal mostly for solos but my preferred sound is without it on either channel.
Nice comparison mate. How loud do you usually play in these videos?
Cheers! Not very loud.
9:28 .....out ta get me!
PLEXI !!!!!
I hope Elmon takes this constructively as I'm sure he has something to offer us, but this isn't it. It isn't much use as a review. Like SO many others: "let me wank my guitar all over you" takes over from the start. We heard them extremely gained out and volume up. But crunch tones? Crunch to driven on the volume control? Nothing.
There's decent enough video production and scripting values, but it misses the point. The gear under review is the star. Not the reviewer.
Thanks for letting us hear them at full tilt though, it has answered one of my questions. But only one sadly.
Absolutely certain Elmo can do way better, he has it in him.
Plexi!! Rocks !!!!!
Yep :)
duuuude… no comparison of the clean channels??? But why? And why no crunchy sounds???
I had the 2525 combo a few years ago and,meh. Never really bonded with Marshall’s. Then I got the studio vintage head. Had never played a plexi before. Love the thing.
I have both and love them the jube is a beast
Cool :)
Neck pickup on a strat with a plexi is the tone of all tones
:)
The Jubilee is a one trick pony {metal} but the Plexi.......that's another story! Much, much more versatile.
John Frusciante uses a Jubilee...
Plexi has a more "pure" sound, notes jump out of the amp, let's say! Maybe it's because the Jubilee has diodes in the signal path to get more drive and Plexi has the simplest signal path from input to the speaker. Next: Compare Studio Vintage to Studio Classic (JCM 800 20w)!
Yeah, I think so too. I'm not sure about the whole SC20. I have to sell a bunch of gear first, and seems like it's difficult to shift stuff at the moment.
It's pretty obvious that you don't like a master volume style amp. Your a plexi kinda guy. That's all good as long as you have room for the power or have a good attenuator.
I have a 15 euro volume pot in the loop. Works great.
Give me a Plexi large or small and a Strat and move on... LOL
:D
Plexi for Cream and Floyd and Hendrix; SILver jub for ac dc to metallica to g & r...Plexi has that middle grit-crunch-punch, and, the silver scoops better...viva la difference...
Sorry but AC/DC is allllll plexi
@@rollingtones1298 well, old ac dc, i agree, but, back in black would actually be best in JCM 800...not, the silver...but, i do agree with your point- everything before back in black would be plexi ALL THE WAY! using, either a Grescht(sp?) or an SG, depending on which Young you wanna be, lol!
Viva la difference indeed :)
Hello this guy...
Hi :)
I see you reached back to turn the amp down because of the hiss w/everything cranked. So I put my noise gate in the effects loop, and I added a volume pedal so I can keep it cranked but lower the volume! It works. Gate the amp, too!
Use the boss eq in the effects loop problem solved for volume and acts as a boost as well. No worries about noise then
Cheers :)
Fucking great man, fucking great...:-)))
Thanks a lot.
And thank you :)
The Jubilee is a fizzy crap box!
SV all day long.
Plexi all the way. Didn't your mother tell you when you were young that if you cross your eyes they can lock in that way the rest of your life.
:D
Mini jubilee vs jcm 800 studio !!!!]; )'
Maybe. Financially it's a bit tight.
good video, i just want to say that you dont have to act in front of the camera. just be yourself.
Plexi all day
Yep :)
Yessir!
BOTH :)
They are both good :)
Jubilee is meant to be played with humbuckers with preferably low to medium output for perfect rock sound. You should seriously see other youtubers and learn how a comparison is done. That was a mess.
Those are stacked humbuckers.
@@MrPolevaulter i said humbuckers. Not stacked humbuckers. A big difference. I have tested that amp with all types of pickups and it works best with what i wrote. That's why Slash and Aldrich use/used it.
@@fidodido664 So have I. Not my cup of tea.