I have zero sympathy for people who have access to the internet and STILL believe charlatans like Dux. Nearly everything that guy said has proven falsifiable via simple Google search.
According to ""Prank Ducks"" Fraizer sucker punched him with brass knuckles then a bunch of ninja assassins joined in and some CIA hitmen but he beat em all.....
Taken from Karate International Magazine Nov 1993 from Jay T. Will's column "Kempo Korner": "UNREST AT THE MARTIAL ARTS TRADE SHOW. --------------------------------------- At the second annual Draka Martial Arts Trade Show held at the Century City Plaza Hotel in Los Angeles, California, a skirmish broke out between Kenpo Black Belt and WKA's #1 rated heavyweight kickboxing contender Zane Frazier and Grand Master Frank W. Dux. As many of you know, Frank Dux is the character the film "Blood Sport" was modeled after. According to several well known black belts (Frank Trejo, Ray Wizzard) present at the incident, Dux moved in on Frazier and Frazier hit Dux several times in the face dropping Dux to the floor. Frazier finished the action by body slamming him into the next booth. Security officials restored order to the trade show with no further incidents. Glad to hear Zane survived the incident without serious injury." J.T. Will
omg why isn't this article in EVERY video about fake dux? lmao. Not only did other known black belts witness the entire fight, they 100% corroborated Frazier's version of it lol. Black Belt magazine had no issue printing that version and then left no doubt as to who they support by ending with, "glad Zane survived with no serious injury", knowing damn well Zane did all the damage lol. They straight up said fake dux got dropped by strikes and then got bodied into the next booth lmaooo
Funny story: I was a student at the Dux Ryu Ninjitsu studio in Van Nuys prior to and shorting after this 'event' took place... I was never taught by Frank; apparently, he only taught his black belt students, as I was told. Steven Williams was my formal instructor during my time there. I can honestly say, Steven was a good guy with a lot of enthusiasm and professionalism. Steven, as I recall, originally earned his black belt in Judo be becoming a student/instructor under Frank. Anyway, on one evening when Steven was out, I ended up with a different instructor who zeroed in on me during a flat-fall backward exercises: "Again! Again! Again! ...in fast succession he yelled repeatedly at me and a count I cannot remember; too many until I hit the floor exhausted and banged my head hard, nearly knocking myself out with a concussion... all I remember was a severe pain and stars. And the worst part, I then ended up injured by lower back, which then, shortly later, I ended my studies there. As for Frank, I was introduced to Frank at the start of my studies at this V.N. dojo but briefly, and then again briefly once more after the convention incident... what a change in his facial appearance. Some say, his facial appearance was due directly to the fight, but I honestly believe he suffered a facial stroke, perhaps as a result of it. As for Frank and of his stories, I cannot say much about it; I never had a conversation with him. My only experience is my studies with Steven.
and then Black Belt magazine basically putting notary stamp on Frazier's story by saying dux got dropped and then body slammed into the next booth. Then they cap it off with "glad frazier wasn't hurt" and not one gaf for dux lol
@@anthonyventi1579 Dux reckons he was blind sided (with a knuckle duster) at which point Dux took him down to the floor and completely locked him up. God knows what the actual truth is, but Dux reckons he had the hospital x-rays where you could see the marks on his skull proving he had been hit with a duster...
0:07, 2:46; I can see why he thought Zane blindsided him because Zane followed him and dux didn’t see Zane until Zane was directly in front him. Basically Zane blindsided dux, but Dux wasn’t being situationally aware of his surroundings, especially his Blindspot, and if he was truly as gifted as he implies he is then he should have been aware of his 6 o’clock or at least have someone watching his back. Someone once told me and my brother, after we got jumped by a group of guys that one of us should walk backwards that way one of us could be watching our backs. When I was gang banging as a teenager I would have to look behind me when I was walking down the streets every 10 seconds or so to make sure none of my enemies were behind me. Wisdom isn’t something that comes with age, but with experience and with experience, he should’ve learned that.
So where's the lawsuit posted? Btw, the Instagram link in the video description is broken, or maybe page doesn't exist anymore? Great episode as always!
That’s awesome!!! This incident was the main reason that Zane was asked to fight in UFC 1 In Art Davies book he writes about seeing the aftermath that involved the police Was Frank as eccentric as people say???
Your right, i don't trust either story. I have heard from others who were there that there was too much chaos going on to fully see what actually happened in fine details. I heard Frank did get a few shots on Zane and slammed him a few times as well, but Zane beat his ass a little too. The others i heard from said neither really won or had the upper hand. But there was no brass knuckles and no other 4 fighters all going after Dux.
I think Zane is talking out his ass , first of he says Frank got out of his attack then he says 4:05 “ I slipped on some papers LMAO… then he’s cut off !!! You should have let him finish sounds like he was gonna say he fell over .. then he goes back to his story 8 punches , vertical elbow , body slams sounds like BS
I always ask Frank Dux why he never silenced his critics with a real fight by showing what he can do...the UFC was founded in 1993, why did he never take part if he was the best of all times is. no one in martial arts talks about him. And he didn't look like a heavyweight before either 🤣 he's a liar, otherwise he would have shown what he can do in a real fight a long time ago
Viking samurai will be crying listening to this he thinks he's going to beat up ex ufc fighters and a ex ufc champion because frank dux will train him
That dude is as fake as frank
I have zero sympathy for people who have access to the internet and STILL believe charlatans like Dux. Nearly everything that guy said has proven falsifiable via simple Google search.
Viking Samurai is the G.O.A.T.
@hanslander2849 no Charlie z is the goat 💯👌
I like viking,but he likes to make excuses for frank ducks😂 I think he knows frank is full of shit and he just wants to make frank feel good
Zane was my kick boxer coach at turbo resources. Great guy taught me a lot.
Dux Ryu was a better system in all honesty
According to ""Prank Ducks"" Fraizer sucker punched him with brass knuckles then a bunch of ninja assassins joined in and some CIA hitmen but he beat em all.....
Don’t forget about the nunchucks.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 there is no end to dux's bullshit. He's a meme factory.
This is the real Cobra Kia 😂
Taken from Karate International
Magazine Nov 1993 from Jay T. Will's column "Kempo Korner":
"UNREST AT THE MARTIAL ARTS TRADE SHOW.
---------------------------------------
At the second annual Draka Martial Arts Trade Show held at the Century
City Plaza Hotel in Los Angeles, California, a skirmish broke out between
Kenpo Black Belt and WKA's #1 rated heavyweight kickboxing contender Zane
Frazier and Grand Master Frank W. Dux. As many of you know, Frank Dux is
the character the film "Blood Sport" was modeled after. According to
several well known black belts (Frank Trejo, Ray Wizzard) present at the
incident, Dux moved in on Frazier and Frazier hit Dux several times in the
face dropping Dux to the floor. Frazier finished the action by body
slamming him into the next booth. Security officials restored order to
the trade show with no further incidents. Glad to hear Zane survived the
incident without serious injury."
J.T. Will
omg why isn't this article in EVERY video about fake dux? lmao.
Not only did other known black belts witness the entire fight, they 100% corroborated Frazier's version of it lol. Black Belt magazine had no issue printing that version and then left no doubt as to who they support by ending with, "glad Zane survived with no serious injury", knowing damn well Zane did all the damage lol. They straight up said fake dux got dropped by strikes and then got bodied into the next booth lmaooo
Funny story: I was a student at the Dux Ryu Ninjitsu studio in Van Nuys prior to and shorting after this 'event' took place... I was never taught by Frank; apparently, he only taught his black belt students, as I was told. Steven Williams was my formal instructor during my time there. I can honestly say, Steven was a good guy with a lot of enthusiasm and professionalism. Steven, as I recall, originally earned his black belt in Judo be becoming a student/instructor under Frank. Anyway, on one evening when Steven was out, I ended up with a different instructor who zeroed in on me during a flat-fall backward exercises: "Again! Again! Again! ...in fast succession he yelled repeatedly at me and a count I cannot remember; too many until I hit the floor exhausted and banged my head hard, nearly knocking myself out with a concussion... all I remember was a severe pain and stars. And the worst part, I then ended up injured by lower back, which then, shortly later, I ended my studies there. As for Frank, I was introduced to Frank at the start of my studies at this V.N. dojo but briefly, and then again briefly once more after the convention incident... what a change in his facial appearance. Some say, his facial appearance was due directly to the fight, but I honestly believe he suffered a facial stroke, perhaps as a result of it. As for Frank and of his stories, I cannot say much about it; I never had a conversation with him. My only experience is my studies with Steven.
5:14 Frank said in Viking's channel that one of Frazier minions tried to poke HIS eyes out. Eye poking is more a Dux move. Definitely.
Great interview thanks for bringing these facts to my attention. Zane Frazier is a cool guy.
Imagine catching a beatdown like that in front of all your homies when you’re supposed to be the Kumite guy. I bet that uchi-mata mid-fight was epic.
I can listen to Zane tell stories all day
and then Black Belt magazine basically putting notary stamp on Frazier's story by saying dux got dropped and then body slammed into the next booth. Then they cap it off with "glad frazier wasn't hurt" and not one gaf for dux lol
This is great, I wish I had heard this before I put out my videos on Dux! I would have included this during the portion on their fight.
Make a new one… just give us credit
I highly suggest that you listen to the long form
He mentions multiple celebrities that he beat up
@@MMAHistory-LytesOut if I ever supercut them together I will add it and of course I will most definitely credit you.
What a cool true story, love the podcast these deep dives are the best 👏🏼👏🏼
Thanks for listening! Appreciate you! Please keep coming back and showing others are podcast. Really trying to get to a wider audience.
Zane “I didn’t blind sight him, I beat him up!”
Mike “did he see you coming?”
Zane “no”
😂😂😂😂😂l😂😂😂😂
@@anthonyventi1579He confronted dux got in his face and thennnnn dux swung first
@@anthonyventi1579 Dux reckons he was blind sided (with a knuckle duster) at which point Dux took him down to the floor and completely locked him up. God knows what the actual truth is, but Dux reckons he had the hospital x-rays where you could see the marks on his skull proving he had been hit with a duster...
0:07, 2:46; I can see why he thought Zane blindsided him because Zane followed him and dux didn’t see Zane until Zane was directly in front him. Basically Zane blindsided dux, but Dux wasn’t being situationally aware of his surroundings, especially his Blindspot, and if he was truly as gifted as he implies he is then he should have been aware of his 6 o’clock or at least have someone watching his back.
Someone once told me and my brother, after we got jumped by a group of guys that one of us should walk backwards that way one of us could be watching our backs. When I was gang banging as a teenager I would have to look behind me when I was walking down the streets every 10 seconds or so to make sure none of my enemies were behind me. Wisdom isn’t something that comes with age, but with experience and with experience, he should’ve learned that.
So where's the lawsuit posted? Btw, the Instagram link in the video description is broken, or maybe page doesn't exist anymore? Great episode as always!
I'm a former student of Frank Dux in North Hollywood, and I don't believe this Dude. In what year did this fight incident happen...? 😅
I believe that it was early 1993
The fight absolutely took place
@LytesOutMMAHistory I trained with Dux around 1980
That’s awesome!!!
This incident was the main reason that Zane was asked to fight in UFC 1
In Art Davies book he writes about seeing the aftermath that involved the police
Was Frank as eccentric as people say???
@@themidnightcowboy-singerex4594that’s Aweosme man.
Yeah Zane, but did you win a Kumite ? No….ok
Your right, i don't trust either story. I have heard from others who were there that there was too much chaos going on to fully see what actually happened in fine details. I heard Frank did get a few shots on Zane and slammed him a few times as well, but Zane beat his ass a little too. The others i heard from said neither really won or had the upper hand. But there was no brass knuckles and no other 4 fighters all going after Dux.
Our Art Davie interview talks about the aftermath of
I think Zane is talking out his ass , first of he says Frank got out of his attack then he says 4:05 “ I slipped on some papers LMAO… then he’s cut off !!! You should have let him finish sounds like he was gonna say he fell over .. then he goes back to his story 8 punches , vertical elbow , body slams sounds like BS
I always ask Frank Dux why he never silenced his critics with a real fight by showing what he can do...the UFC was founded in 1993, why did he never take part if he was the best of all times is. no one in martial arts talks about him. And he didn't look like a heavyweight before either 🤣 he's a liar, otherwise he would have shown what he can do in a real fight a long time ago
Dux in his prime was 180 lbs at best, if that. He was never a huge guy until he got fat much later on.
Impossible, I don’t believe him. No way he beat up an undefeated Kumite fighter. Frank Dux has mastered the Dim-Mak or death touch.
Black Dragon Society endorses Frank Dux
If I ever get Keith Hackney, this topic will get brought up
Koga Yamabushi Frank Dux Ninjutsu > All.
Oh man I would pay to see someone embarrass Frank Dux I am 100% confident that he can't really fight in real life.
Tom Lange? THE Tom Lange?
Frank won ??
Zane never loses!!!
I dont know who is the biggest bullshitter frank or zane
Frank
I've seen this dude sparring and not frank😂
I am a student of frank w dux n hold a 5th under him when n where did this take place? 😂
Not true
Zane is a coward
He is a mediocre fighter
LIES!
Ha ha ha
It’s one hell of a story