Gotta say Auronn, you really underrated the fortune on this one. Cant count how many times that aoe heal or damage saved my skin in a fight. Game gave me too many so i have 2 full p atk and an m atk slotted in, and those aoe heal procs are my mvp on this week's TC5-5 along with Beryl's firewall.
The random buffs also includes AoE healing for everyone 3-tiles around the character or damaging all enemies in 3-tiles around the character. It's amazing on Butterfly.
12:00 Unless there's a text mistranslation you're reading the effect of Rays of Sun wrong. It's when YOU ARE ATTACKING enemies that are injured, you gain the defense penetration. Not when you yourself are injured you gain the defense pen. Which sounds much more useful for when you are hitting bosses and other bulky enemies that don't get one / two shot.
@@thec9424I almost only push her out if her hook skill is up or I have March order up on the team. With devil and her passive up she basically guarantees the kill and then she can run away so she never gets targeted. It works much better once you have upgraded March order since it doesn’t need to target characters and just buffs the whole team
@@thec9424 the ramp up time is 1-2 turns max really before the benefits are there. It also adds defense for every stack so it helps her stay alive. I can usually get a kill or two before she even starts her turn. And then everything past turn 2 she’s basically guaranteed to kill
Emperor seems pretty good. The way I think of it: The 25% DMG increase helps get enemies into Injured state. Yes, the Emperor effect doesnt apply anymore, but the benefit is that the Enemy is taking 20% DMG increase from the entire team (which is just a 5% DMG increase loss for the Emepror tarot holder) and most importantly the enemy deals 20% less damage. This is great for bosses since the fights get easier the faster you can get them into Injured and Dying.
Source of Strength is really a T1 imo for dark types, light types are very common as any role and all archers/healers are going to be light types who can chunk your casters who generally dont have more range then archers. AOE damage reduction is good for the weapon runs as most their hits are multi-strike, hitting multiple people Devil is good with teams with a lot of summons, the merchant + saf + princess healing just make for the perfect one for getting all 5 stacks out Ray of sun is when THE TARGET is under 70% hp, debatable for weapon fights again as this is active for 3/4 the fight and they have high def.
Wheel of fortune is interesting because the buffs last for 2 turns. The buffs are aoe heal, aoe damage, NG recover and nothing. With lash the aoe damage gets insane because it trigger the magic pierce damage doing a big chunk of extra damage. I want to test if the cube that removes debuffs works with the aoe heal.
From the look of it you didnt even try some of cards. Wheel of fortune is very potent buffs. They give small aoe heal and aoe attack at the end of turn. I put it on Miatha and I dont even run healer in my team. I would argue it be good on several characters at same tame for a cross healing. Not to mention some of effects you got wrong like Justice promotion.
If the final slot has a silver, or gold icon instead of the rainbow one, does that mean it has a smaller chance of rolling the EX/ improved buff? Or it NEVER has a chance so we should dump these too? At least for end game min/maxing
It might not be popular, but I like The Fortune. Very underrated. I gave it to Momo, a kind of Jack of All Trade, and all the buffs it provides are all really cool (from straight buffs, to AoE damages, to AoE heal). People might say it's "RNG", but when every single option is good, RNG doesn't matter. The Heal Buff transform any mage into Innana on crack. But you can't put it on everyone. Still, I feel like T2 is a bit harsh, but it's subjective I guess. I feel like you under estimate a lot the buffs of The Fortune, not even telling what kind of buffs it could provide. I also find the High Priestess not very good. I feel like if you "need" 15% more heal to survive, there's clearly something more critical going wrong in your team. I tend to give my healer The World, as I feel like NRG regen is busted. Edit: same for The Justice on T0. I don't think that's very logical, because on every characters you want The Justice on, you also want The Devil. And The Devil always come on top of The Justice. I feel like Justice might be a good T1 until you pull off a great Devil ! Thanks for your work ! :D
I agree, I have fortune on Beryl and aoe heals and damage is crazy especially with she getting buffs with her trait. Thanks for NRG tip, will try world on Maitha. Do you think devil is overall good if it increases Magic and physical defence and damage overall?
@@RoshanKumar-mk1ki TLDR: Yes, you can give Devil to any ST-DPS and it's not a wrong choice. I think Devil is the way to go for Single-Target DPS. Aside for very few gimmicky characters, there's nothing giving you more "stats for for bucks". I've not encountered a scenario yet when I want something else. (There's a case for Garcia and Justice, but aside from that, I think my statement stays true) I wouldn't put Devil on AoE DPS if I can get a good Magician. You'd need 5 Stacks of the Devil to be on-par with Magician, on the worst case scenario (2 ennemies hit). That's a little too much efforts I think. I'd also prefer giving a more supportive Tarot to my Healers, as I value Healing Power less than Utility (Buffs, Debuffs, Cleanse, etc...). Healers "heals" already enough simply by leveling them up, and heal (reactive) won't save you from getting One Shot (or 2 Shot against High Speed) if you push content hard (like in the Tower), while buffs (preemptive) potentially could. I'd also wouldn't give Devil to a Tank, for obvious reasons.
@@kayink558 Perfect! Will go with this and see how things go. I was lucky to pull Gloria, Inanna, Berly and Double Col on my F2P. Still at level 29 but grinding and looking forward to reaching level 35 where most of them will unlock good skills. Is there any Tarot and equipment combination you really like? Thanks again and have fun!
@@RoshanKumar-mk1ki If you're a light spender, the daggers from Col skin are perfect for him. And if you took the battlepass, the staff is really nice for Innana. If you don't spend and you're lucky, a Double-Sided Halberd is perfect for Gloria, a Cube for Innana, and a Starry Sky Staff for Beryl would be perfect. If not, any other Legendary equipment is good until you get the ones you really want. As far as Epic Items go, usually you don't want to invest more than 20 level on those. But I think one Epic item deserve some love: The Disaster Bottle. It's a fantastic Trinket to put on your healer (Innana, for exemple). Healers don't need as much stats as the other Classes, so giving them Trinket or Equipments that can enhance their Utility is great, even if it's not a Legendary Trinket. Putting debuffs as an Instant Action against Bosses is a great way for your healer to be active in battle when you don't need to heal. For Tarot, I did very classic things. I put Devil on Col, World on Innana and Magician on Gloria. The rest of my team consist of Momo, Maitha and Rawiyah. I use Fortune on Momo, which I find effective and fun. I use Temperance on Maitha. It's not optimal, but she has so much damage reduction, I'm curious to see how far I can make it work. Later, I think I'll give Maitha The Fortune. Everyone say to use The Hermit, but I think it's bad on Maitha. She has a lot of DMG reduction already, and you get diminishing return by stacking it. For Rawiyah, I currently use a Justice because I have a good one, and she likes Critical. But There's a world where I put another Fortune on her and run 3 Fortune, and see how it goes hahaha. Have fun as well =D
@kayink558 perfect for her* pretty sure Col is female. I had to search a bit to find out because she is ambiguous looking, and her chest is hard to tell if its flat or not. However, I see her referenced as female.
Hey auron a question. Is the only way to know the subsstats of the whispers to level them all the way to 60? Or is there a way to know whay theyll unlock without doing that?
@6:30 chariot mandatory for last weeks higher flloors. @12:00 think of ppl like rawiyah, who is literally always between 20 and 70 XD....some are very character/environment related, but with the right conditions, they will make you win a fight you would've lost with standards devil'S and maiden'S @13:00 plz dont throw these... they rank S++++ for weapon trials later on. You wont farms gear as fast as top voyageurs if u throw these, make sure to have 2-3 well built in your inv
Ok, just making sure, doesn't sun activate when the enemy is injured, not you? That would mean it's good for killing off weakened foes (and therefore pretty good). Not as good as the straight normal damage boosts, but pretty close.
@@MttkRaimonthat’s what I hate about some games out there. People just becomes so obsessed with a few super good units that the others get overshadowed and no one ever talks about them or if they do, it’s because their favorite meta heroes got nerfed and they needed to find something else to use and think they just discovers a secret tech a lot of people already knew about because we’ve been using those units since we didn’t have those meta units
Devil Tarot is also good for Magic Attackers..the Increase Attack on [devil] buff increases not only Physical Attack but also Magic Attack. Also the increase in Defense also applies not only to Physical Def but also to Magic Def as well.
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Huge tip. Devil tarot activates even if someone dies in a cutscene ;)
I LOVE that they include those also. It is so satisfying to see all the buffs pop up haha
lmao that's some lifehack
Damn! Thanks
Big true.
Reading the card explains the card. Rays of the Sun isn't when YOU are injured. It days "when attacking injured enemies".
Gotta say Auronn, you really underrated the fortune on this one. Cant count how many times that aoe heal or damage saved my skin in a fight. Game gave me too many so i have 2 full p atk and an m atk slotted in, and those aoe heal procs are my mvp on this week's TC5-5 along with Beryl's firewall.
The random buffs also includes AoE healing for everyone 3-tiles around the character or damaging all enemies in 3-tiles around the character. It's amazing on Butterfly.
12:00
Unless there's a text mistranslation you're reading the effect of Rays of Sun wrong. It's when YOU ARE ATTACKING enemies that are injured, you gain the defense penetration. Not when you yourself are injured you gain the defense pen. Which sounds much more useful for when you are hitting bosses and other bulky enemies that don't get one / two shot.
I honestly LOVE the wheel of fortune buffs. You can get aoe heals or aoe damage that proc each turn.
Just have to remember not to stand near a barrel... 💥
Yeah he dismissed it too easily. I wouldn’t put it with his tier 0 but it’s maybe high tier 1. And the most fun.
Justice is NOT 30% after evolve/EX form. Base is 15% crit rate and EX is 15% crit damage
Great video as always auronnj, thank you for the SoC content!
Garcia with full of her pasive and devil tarot are a super monster in late game and its really fun yo see that super big damage when you get there
She is pretty squishy tho. Might be better using defensive stuff since she is designed to always be close.
@@thec9424I almost only push her out if her hook skill is up or I have March order up on the team. With devil and her passive up she basically guarantees the kill and then she can run away so she never gets targeted. It works much better once you have upgraded March order since it doesn’t need to target characters and just buffs the whole team
@Uutalo Seems like quite a long ramp-up time. I mostly use her to guarantee kills with her follow up until she gets 6 stacks, or pick off strays.
@@thec9424 the ramp up time is 1-2 turns max really before the benefits are there. It also adds defense for every stack so it helps her stay alive. I can usually get a kill or two before she even starts her turn. And then everything past turn 2 she’s basically guaranteed to kill
@@UutaloGarcia is so fun to play with. She hits like a truck after a few turn.
Emperor seems pretty good. The way I think of it: The 25% DMG increase helps get enemies into Injured state. Yes, the Emperor effect doesnt apply anymore, but the benefit is that the Enemy is taking 20% DMG increase from the entire team (which is just a 5% DMG increase loss for the Emepror tarot holder) and most importantly the enemy deals 20% less damage. This is great for bosses since the fights get easier the faster you can get them into Injured and Dying.
Some people are reporting World gives reduces COOLDOWN by 1 when going on standby.. Which sounds amazing on Inanna
HUGE EXPLANATIONS right here!
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Source of Strength is really a T1 imo for dark types, light types are very common as any role and all archers/healers are going to be light types who can chunk your casters who generally dont have more range then archers.
AOE damage reduction is good for the weapon runs as most their hits are multi-strike, hitting multiple people
Devil is good with teams with a lot of summons, the merchant + saf + princess healing just make for the perfect one for getting all 5 stacks out
Ray of sun is when THE TARGET is under 70% hp, debatable for weapon fights again as this is active for 3/4 the fight and they have high def.
Wheel of fortune is interesting because the buffs last for 2 turns.
The buffs are aoe heal, aoe damage, NG recover and nothing.
With lash the aoe damage gets insane because it trigger the magic pierce damage doing a big chunk of extra damage.
I want to test if the cube that removes debuffs works with the aoe heal.
From the look of it you didnt even try some of cards. Wheel of fortune is very potent buffs. They give small aoe heal and aoe attack at the end of turn. I put it on Miatha and I dont even run healer in my team. I would argue it be good on several characters at same tame for a cross healing. Not to mention some of effects you got wrong like Justice promotion.
atk buff with NRG regen for 2 turns.
and then there's a suspicious buff 😂
What does AOE mean and which characters do AOE attacks ? I got the Dream Of The Magician Tarot Whisper but do not know who to give it too.
don't forget that some character's total output damage will scale off of defensive stats with skill's internal conversion, or even at their core...
I use Tower on Guzman with a Counterattack build. Does very well, especially with his Rank heal and Feast axe. He goes nuts
There’s a legendary trinket that gives 2% XP and 10% counterattack damage that would go crazy
If the final slot has a silver, or gold icon instead of the rainbow one, does that mean it has a smaller chance of rolling the EX/ improved buff? Or it NEVER has a chance so we should dump these too? At least for end game min/maxing
Final slot must be rainbow to even have a chance at rolling EX
I think you need to reread sun! also, you rated this based on pve! Some of these are so good in pvp! The fool and Sun are great in pvp!
I thought dream of magician does more damage to targets hit more than once, like with Beryl's first skill
It might not be popular, but I like The Fortune. Very underrated. I gave it to Momo, a kind of Jack of All Trade, and all the buffs it provides are all really cool (from straight buffs, to AoE damages, to AoE heal). People might say it's "RNG", but when every single option is good, RNG doesn't matter. The Heal Buff transform any mage into Innana on crack. But you can't put it on everyone. Still, I feel like T2 is a bit harsh, but it's subjective I guess.
I feel like you under estimate a lot the buffs of The Fortune, not even telling what kind of buffs it could provide.
I also find the High Priestess not very good. I feel like if you "need" 15% more heal to survive, there's clearly something more critical going wrong in your team. I tend to give my healer The World, as I feel like NRG regen is busted.
Edit: same for The Justice on T0. I don't think that's very logical, because on every characters you want The Justice on, you also want The Devil. And The Devil always come on top of The Justice. I feel like Justice might be a good T1 until you pull off a great Devil !
Thanks for your work ! :D
I agree, I have fortune on Beryl and aoe heals and damage is crazy especially with she getting buffs with her trait. Thanks for NRG tip, will try world on Maitha. Do you think devil is overall good if it increases Magic and physical defence and damage overall?
@@RoshanKumar-mk1ki TLDR: Yes, you can give Devil to any ST-DPS and it's not a wrong choice.
I think Devil is the way to go for Single-Target DPS. Aside for very few gimmicky characters, there's nothing giving you more "stats for for bucks".
I've not encountered a scenario yet when I want something else. (There's a case for Garcia and Justice, but aside from that, I think my statement stays true)
I wouldn't put Devil on AoE DPS if I can get a good Magician. You'd need 5 Stacks of the Devil to be on-par with Magician, on the worst case scenario (2 ennemies hit). That's a little too much efforts I think.
I'd also prefer giving a more supportive Tarot to my Healers, as I value Healing Power less than Utility (Buffs, Debuffs, Cleanse, etc...). Healers "heals" already enough simply by leveling them up, and heal (reactive) won't save you from getting One Shot (or 2 Shot against High Speed) if you push content hard (like in the Tower), while buffs (preemptive) potentially could.
I'd also wouldn't give Devil to a Tank, for obvious reasons.
@@kayink558 Perfect! Will go with this and see how things go. I was lucky to pull Gloria, Inanna, Berly and Double Col on my F2P. Still at level 29 but grinding and looking forward to reaching level 35 where most of them will unlock good skills. Is there any Tarot and equipment combination you really like? Thanks again and have fun!
@@RoshanKumar-mk1ki If you're a light spender, the daggers from Col skin are perfect for him. And if you took the battlepass, the staff is really nice for Innana.
If you don't spend and you're lucky, a Double-Sided Halberd is perfect for Gloria, a Cube for Innana, and a Starry Sky Staff for Beryl would be perfect.
If not, any other Legendary equipment is good until you get the ones you really want.
As far as Epic Items go, usually you don't want to invest more than 20 level on those. But I think one Epic item deserve some love: The Disaster Bottle.
It's a fantastic Trinket to put on your healer (Innana, for exemple). Healers don't need as much stats as the other Classes, so giving them Trinket or Equipments that can enhance their Utility is great, even if it's not a Legendary Trinket.
Putting debuffs as an Instant Action against Bosses is a great way for your healer to be active in battle when you don't need to heal.
For Tarot, I did very classic things. I put Devil on Col, World on Innana and Magician on Gloria. The rest of my team consist of Momo, Maitha and Rawiyah. I use Fortune on Momo, which I find effective and fun.
I use Temperance on Maitha. It's not optimal, but she has so much damage reduction, I'm curious to see how far I can make it work. Later, I think I'll give Maitha The Fortune.
Everyone say to use The Hermit, but I think it's bad on Maitha. She has a lot of DMG reduction already, and you get diminishing return by stacking it.
For Rawiyah, I currently use a Justice because I have a good one, and she likes Critical. But There's a world where I put another Fortune on her and run 3 Fortune, and see how it goes hahaha.
Have fun as well =D
@kayink558 perfect for her* pretty sure Col is female. I had to search a bit to find out because she is ambiguous looking, and her chest is hard to tell if its flat or not. However, I see her referenced as female.
It would be nice if you show the tier list in a full screen somewhat in an interval time rather than just put it small in the corner.
Just to clarify the moon does more damage if the enemy is injured not you
Hey auron a question. Is the only way to know the subsstats of the whispers to level them all the way to 60? Or is there a way to know whay theyll unlock without doing that?
I thought the multihit tarot was for skills that hit more than once on a target. Good to know it's for aoe. That's a lot better than I thought, lol.
@6:30 chariot mandatory for last weeks higher flloors. @12:00 think of ppl like rawiyah, who is literally always between 20 and 70 XD....some are very character/environment related, but with the right conditions, they will make you win a fight you would've lost with standards devil'S and maiden'S
@13:00 plz dont throw these... they rank S++++ for weapon trials later on. You wont farms gear as fast as top voyageurs if u throw these, make sure to have 2-3 well built in your inv
That's not how rays of the sun works
Feel like wheal of fortune is not thjat bad the buffs super strong
Moon gives free heal right?
Are you sure dream of the magician isn't talking about Multi-Hit Units? That's How I read it.
Evolved? How do u evolve tarot?
Ok, just making sure, doesn't sun activate when the enemy is injured, not you? That would mean it's good for killing off weakened foes (and therefore pretty good). Not as good as the straight normal damage boosts, but pretty close.
He is wrong. Read the card and you will have your answer lol. It's OP for characters like Garcia for instance.
@@nibu8743 i use it on dantalion its superb
emperor of majesty + Col = easy takedown
So magician is just wrong? I’m confused, you said it’s written poorly but by what you said it’s just written completely wrong
I use the Tower tarot on Momo. It boosts all her "infection" dot damage, since they all proc on the enemy's turn. It's really good
I just got her is she good?
@@JuneBug6Yes? why wouldn't she, people are just too obsessed with the same 4-5 meta units
@@MttkRaimonthat’s what I hate about some games out there. People just becomes so obsessed with a few super good units that the others get overshadowed and no one ever talks about them or if they do, it’s because their favorite meta heroes got nerfed and they needed to find something else to use and think they just discovers a secret tech a lot of people already knew about because we’ve been using those units since we didn’t have those meta units
@@Gu3ssWhatsN3XTso dont play games lol meta and games are always together love or hate does not do anything to that 😂
I gave Momo The Fortune. She was already very versatile. With it, she's doing everything. She tanks, deals AoE, ST, and Heal.
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Devil Tarot is also good for Magic Attackers..the Increase Attack on [devil] buff increases not only Physical Attack but also Magic Attack. Also the increase in Defense also applies not only to Physical Def but also to Magic Def as well.
Ohh really
Wait until real time pvp implemented then edit this tier list